April 21, 2025 • 14 mins
With the 2025 NFL Draft set to kickoff this Thursday with many anticipating which teams may draft who and where players may end up, joining 790 along with Sean and Dan former player and coach who's also won a Super Bowl in his tenure coaching the Baltimore Ravens, Jack Del Rio joins the guys just a few days ahead of the Draft with a small Mock Draft of his own regarding who and where he believes certain players may end up.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Bringing in a guy who is a winner, guy who's
coached and played and done it all was the studio.
It's just a couple of years ago coming in and
guy man now he's doing his thing overseas. Jack del
Rio jumping in right now, Jack har are you man?
Thanks for jumping in with us.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Hey, I'm doing great.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
I'm going little bit of a time difference here.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
I hear you are.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
You are overseas doing some some coaching football over there. Now,
get everybody up to date.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
What you got going on right now?
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Well, right this minute, I'm sitting on a park bench looking.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
At the Eiffle, looking at the Eiffle. Cower.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Wow, I just got out of the just got out
of the loo with my wife, and you know I
was I was doing all the all the all the
things a husband does and wants to make his wife happy.
So we we had a good day this morning. It
is four o'clock right now, and I'm heading back because
we're gonna we're gonna jump on a zoom here in
(00:58):
a little bit and review saturday's prack.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
This with the team and we do it via zoom.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Well, it's interesting, uh, the way the way we've kind
of do done things and are doing things over here.
But one thing is one thing is evident. The guys
love football, and h I love football. So so we're
having a blast over here in Paris. You know, coaching
and playing football.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Jack, you know, I mean story cre You've been defensive coordinator,
you've been Super Bowl, You've were a player for a
long time, you've been a head coach in this league. Successful.
Why why why this gig?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Tell him?
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Tell me about this, what it's done for you, not
just psychologically but football wise.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Yeah, it really this was This was the kind of
thing where my wife.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Has been telling me for years.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Lind has been saying me, whatever they offer you a
chance to go over and coach in Europe, please do it,
because I would, and so and so came up when
I was asked. I said, you know, I'm not going
to tell you no, because my wife for ever has
been saying if we could, you know, kind of if
she could do what she loves, which is the travel
(02:05):
and be in Europe and all that, and if we
can do that, I can do what I love, which
is the coach football, and we can make it.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Happen all at once. Let's let's go for it, and
so I was like, uh, I don't know if I
really want to do that what?
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (02:20):
You know, I talked with it.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
I talked with the CHIP and a couple of really
good people that I trust, and they said, it's a blast.
You're cann love it and I am loving it so far.
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
And Joel comes up.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Jackie, you're going to get a whole lot of hall
pass too for mama for a while. Now you know
how that goes? Man, you're building up, brother, I know
the great Jack del Rio joneses, is that the truth
from from Well he's stared at the Eiffel Tower, So
it's good to be Jack. But imagine there's a cup
of coffee there as well, and it's no milkshake, my guy,
Jack del Rio joins us. Jack, it's draft week this time.
(02:55):
You've been through a lot of these, not only as
a player, but evaluating. Give me an idea on a
Monday before, when you're the head coach on a Monday,
what Monday before a Thursday draft looks like or sounds
like in the building when you're going through your evaluation.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Well, the bulk of the work is done. You know,
the scouts have come in they've had their say. Uh,
the coaches have done their part where they're gonna you know,
coaches are gonna look at it and just make sure
scheme fit type stuff. But really, the scouts spend all
the time. I mean, they spend years with these guys
and coaches. We come in and try and learn in
a couple of months. So I think the scouts have
(03:34):
a much better idea as long as they as long
as they're in sync with.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
What the coaching staff is looking for. Uh, you've got
to rely on their understaff of your of your scouting.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
So now right now it's probably talk about could we
move up, could we move back? Where's where? You know,
where's the meat of this draft? Where is it light?
You know, if there's a if there's a where you
get in troubles, where there's a position need in a
life area like like, there are not many of them.
It's scarcely populated, and it's a and it's a group
(04:05):
that you need to be in to get a player
that you want, and that's when that's when mistakes happened.
So hopefully teams have been able to kind of fortify
through free agency and not have glaring holes glaring holes
on draft day ends up being a reach and and
typically hygh percentage bust and and that's what you want
(04:26):
to avoid. There's so many good players are going to
come off over the weekend, and uh, you just have
to have your board stacked right and uh and stay
true to it and move around if you need to
up or down and and get yourself some good football
players what you want to be.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Hey, Jack, I'm cure Jack del Real, longtime player and
coach in the league and is in Paris now coaching
the Paris Musketeers. Has great perspective on these drafts, not
only as a player and assistant coach, but as the
head coach. Jack, is there a story? You know, we
all like the stories or what happened on this day?
Is there like lead into this were you and your
GM or owner where it was like the head's budding
(05:04):
over because you wanted to take two different people. Has
there any epic stories or a scouting department where you
were adamant about something and somebody talked you into it
or out of it.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Well, listen, there there there are several epic stories. So
it's like which way do you want to go? And
I'm going to say that you you being a quarterback. Yeah,
I think I think you'd really enjoyed the blame Gabbert quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Well, let's let's let's let's hear it. No, you have not,
even when you were kicking my ass on the golf course,
so are ready to hear it?
Speaker 3 (05:38):
So so okay, So blame Gabbert night, young man.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
So I was asked to evaluate him. I looked at him.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
I said, I see he and uh. I think his
name was Mick Foles, And.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
I said, I see them both as like third fourth
round guys, like if you have to, you to take
him in a but I'd be happy if we get
him in the fourth I think I think one of
them probably makes it there and and that would be
a great place to get a good, solid backup back.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Okay. So that was my evaluation.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
And so we're on draft day and and you're at
Jacksonville at the time, Jack, is this the Junia Jacksonville.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
I'm yeah, I'm in Jacksonville. This this is what ended
up being my last year, and you'll understand why. So
I'm sitting here and I'm like, okay, we don't pick
for a while, because.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
You know, we're sitting.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
I think we're picking sixteenth that year, and we all
basically went to bed thinking we were gonna take Ryan
Carrigan at the sixteenth spot. Thought he would be there,
thought it would be a great fit. That was kind
of the guy we had our eye on, at least
I did.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
So I'm in the.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Buffet line, like I'm filling up my plate, you know,
and I'm like, yeah, we don't pick for a while,
and I want to get something to eat. And I
hear and the Jaguars have made it trade and are
now on the clock.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
And I'm like, what while you were getting food, they
made the decision to trade to you. Okay, Yes, this.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Is a true story, okay, And I and I haven't
shared it, you know, I I don't. I don't blab
it a lot that I have given it to.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
My boy, trust me.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Okay, okay, all right. So so I walk into I
dropped my stuff. I walk into the to the to
the draft room, and nobody will look at me.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Everybody looks down. Nobody.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
They know that I was screwed. They know, and they
tell me, well they don't even say it. They draft,
They turn in the cart and draft flame Gavit. Now,
as I said, he was a fine young man, nice guy.
He looked apart, but I thought he was a solid
(07:56):
backup in the league, which is what he ended up being.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
And and you know, Jack, we're talking three or four
rounds later than your evaluation and without you even being
in the room.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Yes, yes, which is why when the draft was over,
I called my wife and I said, put the house
on the market, because there's no way, there's no way
I'll be, you know, making it through a year where
they would even have the nuts to the.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Balls, the wherewithal to do such a move. It was
that bad. It was that bad.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
I played along. I had to play along, and yeah,
this was our pick.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
I didn't.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
I didn't come out and say I had a third
fourth round grade on. I had kind I had to
play along with it, okay, And uh yeah, yeah that's
that that happened.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
So how about that for a for a bomb story? Yeah,
on my watch, my man.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
And then then we all said and wonder well, yeah,
what a total horrible pick by the head coach. No
head coach is getting ready to get a sausa jag
and cheese McMuffin or something over there in the buffet line.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Yeah, well crazy you guys know who went one pick
later to the Houston Texans, right, JJ Watt? So Jack
Man like to have him too, there, Jack, JJ Watt
and Jaguar colors.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Yeah, yeah, JJ would have been nice. I mean, but
but he wasn't going to make it the sixteen We
knew that. But yeah, yeah, he's a great.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Player, great guy. Yeah yeah, yeah, no, I.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Mean the other pieces of that, Robert Quinn, Mike Pouncy.
I mean, there was tons of good guys in that
drafted twenty eleven.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Did you notice that? Jack at the beginning of it said, Sean,
you're gonna love this. When I tell you this story,
you're gonna understand why. This was my last year at Jacksonville.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
And there were rumors too at the time.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Jack, I remember were you were you offered the USC
job around that time.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
I remember those rumors were out there day.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
There was talking. I know, there was a bunch of
talk about it, Jack, as you well.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Know, well that was It's funny how it worked out.
That work that was of uh Daly answers. I don't
know what do you want to call it?
Speaker 4 (10:04):
You know, we kind of flirting flirtation, Jack, little flirtation
maybe yet whether.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
It's whether it's with Southern Cal or whether it was
l s U. And they both had troop to it,
but they both neither neither you know, came about for
one reason or another. And that's that's for another show.
We can't we can't get too many nuggets on one show.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Well, when you when you get back and are coming
through here to see me and play golf, and we'll
come back into studio for four hours and we'll hit
them all man, you know that.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
There you go, there you go, all right, Well we'll
hit it again. Well if I if I ever, if
I ever write the book, my wife tell them I
need to write.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Then I'm on I'm on Linda's side. This story needs
to be heard. I've known you since we are sophomores
in high school, and I haven't heard this one. And
I know there's more to follow. What's that party?
Speaker 2 (10:53):
What more for you?
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Real quick?
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Jack? Before we let you go? It is draft week.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
We did hear from Texans GM Nick Cassario this past
week and and some of the sound bites he had
were interesting about drafting. He said they never draft for need.
He said, you always go best player available, who's the
best player on your board. But you gotta be real sometimes, Jack, like,
sometimes you do have to draft for needs. Sometimes there's
a guy staring at you and Okay, he's may not
(11:16):
be at the top of our board, but he addresses
a major need for for us. Just curious what your
philosophy is when it comes to drafting.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Well, really, that's what I was saying earlier. You know,
you know you make mistakes when you draft for need,
so that that's a fact. So Nick Nick is saying
what is true. The problem is is showing up on
draft day and not having your board kind of contorted
to fit the needs that you have.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
I mean, it's just it's natural.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
You know, you you bend it a little bit because
of things that you know you need to fulfill the rosters.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
So it's unfortunate, but it happens to everyone.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Uh and and and if you guard against it and
you do things where you're.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Able to take value, like say, you know somebody.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Else in the league that needs that that player, and
maybe they're going to package some picks and you could
move away from that spot and not be there where
the best player available doesn't fit your board, you know
what I mean, like doesn't fit your team because maybe
you're loaded at that position. So you know, things like
that do happen. But I'll go back and tell you
(12:20):
that Augye knew some story before I got to Baltimore.
They had a draft where they selected Jonathan Ogden and
ray Lewis in the same draft. And Jonathan was taken
i think third overall, and they had already signed the
offensive tackle you know, like in free agency, like pay
big money.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
He was going to be the tacker. So it was like, well,
what are you going to do with Auguren?
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Well they just put him at guard for a year,
and then the next year he moved the tackle and
then he had a you know, fourteen year careers and
all thrown guard, you know, one you know, gold jacket
type guy. So and then they came back in the
first round and got ray Lewis. And so I was
a pretty good draft that year when we got Jonathan
Ogden Hall.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Of fame, ray Lewis hall of fame. That was pretty
That was pretty good by Housing.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Yeah, you think he had some good ones and those
two both with that gold jack you're talking about, my man,
enjoy the Louver the Eiffel Tower. I know you've seen him.
And tell that good wife of yours, Linda, I love
her and I miss you. When you're done with this season,
come on by, brother, and we'll spend some time catching up.
And I look forward to the stories and the book.
I'm going to be on Linda's side. We're writing that book,
meaning you're writing it with a kick to the ass.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
We've got too many good stories for us.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
We got to read them. It sounds good, man.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
You know, I love football over here in Paris, tetons
these guys American football and and having a blast doing
it and looking forward to season or you gotta looking
to the jambiness, Goby. But the uh, the season starts
soon May seventeenth. We get started and and by the
time we're done, I'll be coming over to watch the NFL.
(13:56):
So I'll be home in time from the NFL. So
I look forward to catching up with your brother.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
You too, brother, I'll be in touch. I'll drop you
a line this week, and I appreciate you and love
you man, my best of your family.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Okay, Sean, you know I love you as well, all right, brother.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Thanks, that's my guy.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Man.
Bringing in a guy who is a winner, guy who's
coached and played and done it all was the studio.
It's just a couple of years ago coming in and
guy man now he's doing his thing overseas. Jack del
Rio jumping in right now, Jack har are you man?
Thanks for jumping in with us.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Hey, I'm doing great.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
I'm going little bit of a time difference here.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
I hear you are.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
You are overseas doing some some coaching football over there. Now,
get everybody up to date.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
What you got going on right now?
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Well, right this minute, I'm sitting on a park bench looking.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
At the Eiffle, looking at the Eiffle. Cower.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Wow, I just got out of the just got out
of the loo with my wife, and you know I
was I was doing all the all the all the
things a husband does and wants to make his wife happy.
So we we had a good day this morning. It
is four o'clock right now, and I'm heading back because
we're gonna we're gonna jump on a zoom here in
(00:58):
a little bit and review saturday's prack.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
This with the team and we do it via zoom.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Well, it's interesting, uh, the way the way we've kind
of do done things and are doing things over here.
But one thing is one thing is evident. The guys
love football, and h I love football. So so we're
having a blast over here in Paris. You know, coaching
and playing football.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Jack, you know, I mean story cre You've been defensive coordinator,
you've been Super Bowl, You've were a player for a
long time, you've been a head coach in this league. Successful.
Why why why this gig?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Tell him?
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Tell me about this, what it's done for you, not
just psychologically but football wise.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Yeah, it really this was This was the kind of
thing where my wife.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Has been telling me for years.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Lind has been saying me, whatever they offer you a
chance to go over and coach in Europe, please do it,
because I would, and so and so came up when
I was asked. I said, you know, I'm not going
to tell you no, because my wife for ever has
been saying if we could, you know, kind of if
she could do what she loves, which is the travel
(02:05):
and be in Europe and all that, and if we
can do that, I can do what I love, which
is the coach football, and we can make it.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Happen all at once. Let's let's go for it, and
so I was like, uh, I don't know if I
really want to do that what?
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (02:20):
You know, I talked with it.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
I talked with the CHIP and a couple of really
good people that I trust, and they said, it's a blast.
You're cann love it and I am loving it so far.
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
And Joel comes up.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Jackie, you're going to get a whole lot of hall
pass too for mama for a while. Now you know
how that goes? Man, you're building up, brother, I know
the great Jack del Rio joneses, is that the truth
from from Well he's stared at the Eiffel Tower, So
it's good to be Jack. But imagine there's a cup
of coffee there as well, and it's no milkshake, my guy,
Jack del Rio joins us. Jack, it's draft week this time.
(02:55):
You've been through a lot of these, not only as
a player, but evaluating. Give me an idea on a
Monday before, when you're the head coach on a Monday,
what Monday before a Thursday draft looks like or sounds
like in the building when you're going through your evaluation.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Well, the bulk of the work is done. You know,
the scouts have come in they've had their say. Uh,
the coaches have done their part where they're gonna you know,
coaches are gonna look at it and just make sure
scheme fit type stuff. But really, the scouts spend all
the time. I mean, they spend years with these guys
and coaches. We come in and try and learn in
a couple of months. So I think the scouts have
(03:34):
a much better idea as long as they as long
as they're in sync with.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
What the coaching staff is looking for. Uh, you've got
to rely on their understaff of your of your scouting.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
So now right now it's probably talk about could we
move up, could we move back? Where's where? You know,
where's the meat of this draft? Where is it light?
You know, if there's a if there's a where you
get in troubles, where there's a position need in a
life area like like, there are not many of them.
It's scarcely populated, and it's a and it's a group
(04:05):
that you need to be in to get a player
that you want, and that's when that's when mistakes happened.
So hopefully teams have been able to kind of fortify
through free agency and not have glaring holes glaring holes
on draft day ends up being a reach and and
typically hygh percentage bust and and that's what you want
(04:26):
to avoid. There's so many good players are going to
come off over the weekend, and uh, you just have
to have your board stacked right and uh and stay
true to it and move around if you need to
up or down and and get yourself some good football
players what you want to be.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Hey, Jack, I'm cure Jack del Real, longtime player and
coach in the league and is in Paris now coaching
the Paris Musketeers. Has great perspective on these drafts, not
only as a player and assistant coach, but as the
head coach. Jack, is there a story? You know, we
all like the stories or what happened on this day?
Is there like lead into this were you and your
GM or owner where it was like the head's budding
(05:04):
over because you wanted to take two different people. Has
there any epic stories or a scouting department where you
were adamant about something and somebody talked you into it
or out of it.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Well, listen, there there there are several epic stories. So
it's like which way do you want to go? And
I'm going to say that you you being a quarterback. Yeah,
I think I think you'd really enjoyed the blame Gabbert quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Well, let's let's let's let's hear it. No, you have not,
even when you were kicking my ass on the golf course,
so are ready to hear it?
Speaker 3 (05:38):
So so okay, So blame Gabbert night, young man.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
So I was asked to evaluate him. I looked at him.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
I said, I see he and uh. I think his
name was Mick Foles, And.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
I said, I see them both as like third fourth
round guys, like if you have to, you to take
him in a but I'd be happy if we get
him in the fourth I think I think one of
them probably makes it there and and that would be
a great place to get a good, solid backup back.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Okay. So that was my evaluation.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
And so we're on draft day and and you're at
Jacksonville at the time, Jack, is this the Junia Jacksonville.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
I'm yeah, I'm in Jacksonville. This this is what ended
up being my last year, and you'll understand why. So
I'm sitting here and I'm like, okay, we don't pick
for a while, because.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
You know, we're sitting.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
I think we're picking sixteenth that year, and we all
basically went to bed thinking we were gonna take Ryan
Carrigan at the sixteenth spot. Thought he would be there,
thought it would be a great fit. That was kind
of the guy we had our eye on, at least
I did.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
So I'm in the.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Buffet line, like I'm filling up my plate, you know,
and I'm like, yeah, we don't pick for a while,
and I want to get something to eat. And I
hear and the Jaguars have made it trade and are
now on the clock.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
And I'm like, what while you were getting food, they
made the decision to trade to you. Okay, Yes, this.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Is a true story, okay, And I and I haven't
shared it, you know, I I don't. I don't blab
it a lot that I have given it to.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
My boy, trust me.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Okay, okay, all right. So so I walk into I
dropped my stuff. I walk into the to the to
the draft room, and nobody will look at me.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Everybody looks down. Nobody.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
They know that I was screwed. They know, and they
tell me, well they don't even say it. They draft,
They turn in the cart and draft flame Gavit. Now,
as I said, he was a fine young man, nice guy.
He looked apart, but I thought he was a solid
(07:56):
backup in the league, which is what he ended up being.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
And and you know, Jack, we're talking three or four
rounds later than your evaluation and without you even being
in the room.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Yes, yes, which is why when the draft was over,
I called my wife and I said, put the house
on the market, because there's no way, there's no way
I'll be, you know, making it through a year where
they would even have the nuts to the.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Balls, the wherewithal to do such a move. It was
that bad. It was that bad.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
I played along. I had to play along, and yeah,
this was our pick.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
I didn't.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
I didn't come out and say I had a third
fourth round grade on. I had kind I had to
play along with it, okay, And uh yeah, yeah that's
that that happened.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
So how about that for a for a bomb story? Yeah,
on my watch, my man.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
And then then we all said and wonder well, yeah,
what a total horrible pick by the head coach. No
head coach is getting ready to get a sausa jag
and cheese McMuffin or something over there in the buffet line.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Yeah, well crazy you guys know who went one pick
later to the Houston Texans, right, JJ Watt? So Jack
Man like to have him too, there, Jack, JJ Watt
and Jaguar colors.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Yeah, yeah, JJ would have been nice. I mean, but
but he wasn't going to make it the sixteen We
knew that. But yeah, yeah, he's a great.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Player, great guy. Yeah yeah, yeah, no, I.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Mean the other pieces of that, Robert Quinn, Mike Pouncy.
I mean, there was tons of good guys in that
drafted twenty eleven.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Did you notice that? Jack at the beginning of it said, Sean,
you're gonna love this. When I tell you this story,
you're gonna understand why. This was my last year at Jacksonville.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
And there were rumors too at the time.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Jack, I remember were you were you offered the USC
job around that time.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
I remember those rumors were out there day.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
There was talking. I know, there was a bunch of
talk about it, Jack, as you well.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Know, well that was It's funny how it worked out.
That work that was of uh Daly answers. I don't
know what do you want to call it?
Speaker 4 (10:04):
You know, we kind of flirting flirtation, Jack, little flirtation
maybe yet whether.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
It's whether it's with Southern Cal or whether it was
l s U. And they both had troop to it,
but they both neither neither you know, came about for
one reason or another. And that's that's for another show.
We can't we can't get too many nuggets on one show.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Well, when you when you get back and are coming
through here to see me and play golf, and we'll
come back into studio for four hours and we'll hit
them all man, you know that.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
There you go, there you go, all right, Well we'll
hit it again. Well if I if I ever, if
I ever write the book, my wife tell them I
need to write.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Then I'm on I'm on Linda's side. This story needs
to be heard. I've known you since we are sophomores
in high school, and I haven't heard this one. And
I know there's more to follow. What's that party?
Speaker 2 (10:53):
What more for you?
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Real quick?
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Jack? Before we let you go? It is draft week.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
We did hear from Texans GM Nick Cassario this past
week and and some of the sound bites he had
were interesting about drafting. He said they never draft for need.
He said, you always go best player available, who's the
best player on your board. But you gotta be real sometimes, Jack, like,
sometimes you do have to draft for needs. Sometimes there's
a guy staring at you and Okay, he's may not
(11:16):
be at the top of our board, but he addresses
a major need for for us. Just curious what your
philosophy is when it comes to drafting.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Well, really, that's what I was saying earlier. You know,
you know you make mistakes when you draft for need,
so that that's a fact. So Nick Nick is saying
what is true. The problem is is showing up on
draft day and not having your board kind of contorted
to fit the needs that you have.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
I mean, it's just it's natural.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
You know, you you bend it a little bit because
of things that you know you need to fulfill the rosters.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
So it's unfortunate, but it happens to everyone.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Uh and and and if you guard against it and
you do things where you're.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Able to take value, like say, you know somebody.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Else in the league that needs that that player, and
maybe they're going to package some picks and you could
move away from that spot and not be there where
the best player available doesn't fit your board, you know
what I mean, like doesn't fit your team because maybe
you're loaded at that position. So you know, things like
that do happen. But I'll go back and tell you
(12:20):
that Augye knew some story before I got to Baltimore.
They had a draft where they selected Jonathan Ogden and
ray Lewis in the same draft. And Jonathan was taken
i think third overall, and they had already signed the
offensive tackle you know, like in free agency, like pay
big money.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
He was going to be the tacker. So it was like, well,
what are you going to do with Auguren?
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Well they just put him at guard for a year,
and then the next year he moved the tackle and
then he had a you know, fourteen year careers and
all thrown guard, you know, one you know, gold jacket
type guy. So and then they came back in the
first round and got ray Lewis. And so I was
a pretty good draft that year when we got Jonathan
Ogden Hall.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Of fame, ray Lewis hall of fame. That was pretty
That was pretty good by Housing.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Yeah, you think he had some good ones and those
two both with that gold jack you're talking about, my man,
enjoy the Louver the Eiffel Tower. I know you've seen him.
And tell that good wife of yours, Linda, I love
her and I miss you. When you're done with this season,
come on by, brother, and we'll spend some time catching up.
And I look forward to the stories and the book.
I'm going to be on Linda's side. We're writing that book,
meaning you're writing it with a kick to the ass.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
We've got too many good stories for us.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
We got to read them. It sounds good, man.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
You know, I love football over here in Paris, tetons
these guys American football and and having a blast doing
it and looking forward to season or you gotta looking
to the jambiness, Goby. But the uh, the season starts
soon May seventeenth. We get started and and by the
time we're done, I'll be coming over to watch the NFL.
(13:56):
So I'll be home in time from the NFL. So
I look forward to catching up with your brother.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
You too, brother, I'll be in touch. I'll drop you
a line this week, and I appreciate you and love
you man, my best of your family.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Okay, Sean, you know I love you as well, all right, brother.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Thanks, that's my guy.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Man.
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