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Rockets now down to.
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One in their series following an eleven point loss to
the Warriors on Saturday Night. Astros though, salvaging final game
of their series in Kansas City against the Royals seventh
three win yesterday, and the Texans add nine new players
over the weekend in the draft, and Sean, I mean,
I guess that's where we get things started this morning
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is we'll get into the Rockets conversation too. Is a
must win game four tonight, but the draft this weekend,
the Texans deciding to go ahead and trade out of
the first round, take four on Friday, five on Saturday,
and yeah, I mean, I think a clear plan for
the Texans in terms of how they handled those couple
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of days.
Speaker 7 (02:43):
Major plan. I'm still gonna look back. We talked about
a little Thursday. I get why they I liked what
they did. But if Simmons is ever a player in
this league, is healthy because a lot of people think
that he was one of did. If he's one healthy
and played the whole time, he'd he might have been
one of the first linemen taken. And we discussed that.
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You were saying, if it's good enough for Kansas City,
it's good enough. I was thinking about it over the
week and said, Okay, was it I was just going
through the worth it part? Was it worth it? Trading out?
And they did exactly what we pretty much planned. Receivers,
offensive line, a little depth on defense, but that was
to add a little bit of depth and focus on
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the offensive side of the ball, and they did. The
question will be was the mistake leaving Josh Simmons on
the table when you had a first round pick? But
only time is going to tell yet if you're going
to do that now, certain people when we give grades
I think grades have always blown my mind because we said,
I really don't know, how do we know If we're
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saying that what kind of college player he was, we're
graden off who they played against when they played, when
Bowling Green played Slippery Rock, or William and Mary. Okay,
there's our Southern Cow played Michigan. Yeah, okay, I get it.
But now we've got to look forward to the translation
of how they do it the next level. So grades
make me laugh. I don't know how to put a
letter grade on it. Yeah, this guy, but the hype
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because if the letter grade on the hype goes, you'd say, well, Cleveland,
they got a first round talent in the fifth round.
If he was a first round talent to thirty two teams.
Some say first round grade was shoudor Sanders some whether
it's the headache or the town or you didn't think.
I mean there's loud messages sent one way. Whatever we
think that is. So the letter grades blow my mind.
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But with the Texans put it this way, you know
that need best available. You walk out of this and
really was it best available or was it the need?
They went and got the need? It, you know, addressed
offensive positions that they needed help at and got him
answered and then added depth at other positions on the
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defensive side of the ball. No issue here, but you're
always going to wonder how guys that maybe were still
on the board that you didn't get and you know,
when it's the offensive line and a tackle, but I
thought they came out of it. It wasn't sexy, but
it was a f and I think that's the best
way I can describe it. And it may end up
being sexy. You know, maybe that they take the head
gear off because you're, you know, in the tenth grade
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and you got the head gear braces on, and by
the time you're senior, you're the hottest person on campus.
And the teeth are straight everything, you know, the brain,
that old head gear. I know they don't wear it now,
but old school. We've joked about all this show before
the head gear and then it turns into oh the
headgear person, Well it didn't look was so nice and
cool and awesome and a great personality and got potential
all but now there's production. Look at it, man, perfect
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teeth and everything's good. Suffered through the growing pains of well,
you did have a first rounder same thing here three
years from now. This may be end up being sexy
because your second round of plays like a first rounder
and are or more than your second rounder, and then
moving up to get in a certain position to take
and make trades. They did have a plan, and I
thought that they executed it pretty well. So, while not sexy,
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looked efficient and looked like needs and best available kind
of because some of the people they drafted, you and I,
judging from what we may have seen on Saturdays, may
not have said, well, that doesn't feel like the best
available on their board. It was or a need that
also filled in, and I think they responded to both
over the weekend.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
Those damn braces they ruined my game in middle school,
at least that's what I tell my soul.
Speaker 7 (06:17):
Yeah, I mean then you gotta just then you got
to just fight through it, fight through the headgear, dan
and so. But this isn't one of those where, you know,
I think most people will say, oh, yeah, they did,
they did fine. I don't think anybody's jumping through like
you would. If you're Giants fans, you probably feel pretty
good today. You got abdua Carter. You trade it up
now you may not have had to trade up to
get Jackson Dart at that stage of the game, but
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you did and you feel good about it. So whoever,
the big winners and losers are anybody. Anytime you can
get guys that you feel like you got a long
term quarterback and you got a dominant started that the
Giants did well. But you roll through the whole thing
and they're gonna give There's gonna be somebody who gives
a letter grade to the Texans to see and some
are going to give a B plush. So bottom line
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is that it it kind of like the draft. Some
have one guy ranked as a first round draft pick
and others don't have him ranked till the fifth round.
Cleveland and took another quarterback in front of him. So
that's the way it is. Now. I like to see
where they fit in that that's for me more important. Okay,
now they're on a team. How do they translate to
the NFL and for this system in this team. And
I think the Texans, I think they did what they
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wanted to do for the most part in this draft
and got some players that they expect to make the
team and at some point impact well.
Speaker 6 (07:28):
And to your point too, about the letter grades. Like
I just saw a tweet before the show started of
somebody saying these teams won the draft over the weekend,
and I'm like, all right, First of all, I wasn't
even aware that that was necessarily a competition.
Speaker 7 (07:41):
But number two, we don't put banners up to who
won the draft.
Speaker 6 (07:43):
It's like, like, what's your criteria for it? Like, like,
is it that they got all the guys that, like
you saw the most on Saturdays.
Speaker 7 (07:51):
Like you know what it is. It's it's the guy
who's watching all this football or not watch it, reads
a bunch of stuff and sees them and saw a
guy make a few plays, uhha, and decide I did that, Well,
this guy's the best player. It's a huge senior, right,
a huge senior bal because he read it or was
there or heard it.
Speaker 8 (08:07):
Right.
Speaker 7 (08:07):
Even but I'm talking about even if somebody who's not
a guru, but they put their own mocked draft together,
that's one person's opinion. One yeah, one person's opinion. And
I can assure you mine's different than a lot of people's,
Like mine's different than Mel Kuiper's. I can promise you that.
And mine's different than Lewis Riddick, who's well respected in
the league and on TV. But you want to talk
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about about a dude who got caught up in the Hey,
how am I supposed to letter grade him and Mel
over the weekend? A letter grade? Have you ever noticed
that the fourth round pick? What a great get for
all of them. It's it's amazing to me at at
least one thing about Mel said, well, not in the
fifth round or fourth round and say, yeah, this guy's
got weaknesses. But everybody, Oh he can rip it, he
can run, he's got he's long, and oh he's a
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five tech. That's another thing I'm just going to tell TV.
Do yourself a favor. When you talk in lingo. The
guys like me understand because it played it. But if
you're sitting at home, oh man, hey, five technique. But
I mean between Booger and Lewis Ritick, they must have
mentioned five and nine, a wide nine and five technique
and a three technique over the center or that's fine line. Yes,
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I know what it is, right, Yeah, you got to
You've got to talk at the draft like you're you
can't talk under the expert because they'll think you don't
know but you don't want to talk over what most
people are that watch Most people after the first thirty
picks don't know the fifth ree. They read it, but
they haven't watched the backup tight end at William and Mary.
They just haven't. Okay, unless you're in what North Carolina
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and you watch William and Mary football nine times or
ten times, you just don't. You just know there's somebody
these guys on this draft list that I've never seen
or heard of, and then you go and say, Okay,
do they fit in? I don't know. I mean you
watch them in college and see a couple of plays
or a couple of games. Some guys I've watched, You know,
you watch will Howard all season long because they're on
TV ten times. I'm not going to watch tape unless
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I'm a draft girl getting paid on the backup tight
end at William and Mary. I'm just not. Okay. That's
for those guys who put letter grades on him. But
to compare Shador Sanders, No, I'm just using this as
an example. First of all, I was embarrassing that Cam Mood,
the number one pick in the draft, was mentioned less
than a footnote. He was a footnote on the first night. Yeah,
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like this is the first pick of the draft and
they blew him off like he was just like he
was a sixth rounder that didn't bring anything to the table.
And this kid has got everything. He's got everything you
want in the quarterback he's got. Now the other guy's
got stuff you want to But he had more than anybody.
But when Lewis Riddick, who I respect and hold in
high regard, But then I got to take a step
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back when you compared him to meaning the Shadeur Sanders two,
Tom Brady and Drew Brees and he was thirteen twelve.
Stop it now, if you want to tell me that
you compared him to the way they played in college,
you wouldn't even be close. Brady maybe with was Shoudar,
even though Bret but not not Breeze. Breeze was really
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good at Purdue. But to compare a Hall of Fame
Chris A, this guy could have a Tom, Yeah he could.
If my aunt had ball, she'd be my uncle. I
can assure you fifteen years from now we are not
going to be talking about Shador Sanders in the same class. Well,
I can't guarantee it, because it could happen. But we're
more than likely not going to be talking about any
quarterback in the next decade, even current ones like we do.
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Tom Brady Mahomes is the closest, and he's going to
have a hard time getting to seven Super Bowl wins.
Stein the most accurate quarterback all around is sustained accuracy
and history. Drew brees Thatt's slow. But when you get
stuff like that, I know it's hyperbole and they get
caught up in the hype. But at some point in time,
you got to slow your hype down and just talk
to us like normal and quit. If you're going to
reference this constant five technique? Did I know and you
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know are a seven technique? Oh outside, could you do
me a favor. You've got eighteen million hours and we
really don't need to hear all the constant you know,
slot and over a couple of players that don't deserve
slobbered over but may deserve respect. Draw it up once
Savan have the dog on, you got all the highlights,
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Have Booger McFarland stand up at a tellustrator like Saban
does and tell those show those people with a five technique,
it's it always bout oh Man a great cover two corner.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Well, what does that mean?
Speaker 7 (12:20):
You mean the guy can't play man and he needs
a guy over the top to protect him. Tell us that,
and don't. I mean, you're not talking to me and
people who watch it all the time. You're talking to
people who are like trying to figure out. Ninety percent
of the people on did watch that draft have zero
idea what a five technique is?
Speaker 6 (12:35):
Zero?
Speaker 7 (12:36):
And to me, that's horses ass teaching. And I know
I'm getting off the beaten path, but you got four
hundred hours explain it. Just tell why instead of telling me?
And you got to stop with this mid six oh man,
this guy on my board was the second round town. No,
he wasn't. He was a sixth round draft pick. You
might have had him grated higher than the other, but
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he didn't have him graded four hundred players higher. That's hyperbolic.
You get my point. That's just frustrating with all the
time everybody's great, No, no they're not. If a second
rounder fell to the fifth round, why instead of telling
me that the Cleveland Browns are full of it they
didn't draft them sooner, or that some team for passing up,
why did they Why pass up on Josh Simmons? Why
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pass up on whoever? And like Man or a receiver
or Golden or somebody and everybody. Oh long, great motor.
You could prove him inside or out, said, great five
technique guy, But can come inside? I heard that four
hundred times. That may be the case. But explain it
to people. Teach us, see to me the draft. Teach
us why because most people ninety nine percent, even the
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guys who do a mock draft, even McShay and Kuyper,
they wrote notes from Do you really think that they
went and watched the two hundredth player in this draft? No,
forty seven hours, even with all the time you had
before the draft. No, but they got too much. You can't.
You cannot singularly cover it. You just can't. So, and
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I know it's all hype, but it's to the point
where there's another level to this draft, of okay, instead
of all these guys suck. Maybe you could go through
and tell us what might be going on in these
guys' minds. Why shit door fell to the fifth round?
Is it sheer talent? Probably not? Is it You're concern
as we talked about of a helicopter Dad. Maybe is it?
But then again, diance held in high regard by most
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of the NFL, So is that it? Or is it
the fact that once the first round in it and
you saw him start to slide, You're like, I ain't
getting involved in this. I'll make it a late round
pick it and we'll just see how it goes. Cleveland
already drafted record, they drafted a second one, so if
they went by their board, they said, he's the best
player on a board, we're gonna draft him. Great competition,
and I loved how Shador Sanders responded to that, like
he was excited to go and not pouting. We'll see
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how it responds. But we made him the story of
the draft, and it was. But what if thirty teams didn't,
then two teams did. Thirty teams had him as a
third rounder. Forth see the hype of the pre draft
stuff made everybody think. Social media made everythink everybody's got
a first round great on because some reporter reported it.
What we don't ever know is the conversations, for the
most part, to go on in behind those closed doors.
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Why there's a few things that I can guarantee you
or not. Why they didn't draft him. The color of
his skin had zero to do with this, zero to
do with it. Why zero to do with it? Because
it's the most absurd thing. There may be race going
on outside buildings or somebody has it in their own,
but when you draft a player, I assure you they
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don't sit there. They didn't get thirty two teams on
a zoom call and say, hey, man, I think we
should just collude against should let's not draft him. If
you're the third round to you said, well, he makes
my team better, I have to come up drafting that.
I'm sorry to say. When it comes to race, it
just doesn't happen. Now, well, what about the Kaepernick thing, Well,
you go visit. I don't know why, but I know
that they didn't get on a phone call for Shador Sanders,
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who's a good kid, doesn't have any off field troubles.
Could it just simply come down and maybe he didn't
fit for them for some now, whether it's they didn't
want to deal with the dad or the helicopter, what regardless,
I get when I hear that, it makes it's not
only a lame excuse, it diminishes what real race is
about football. People in the building want to win, and
I can't imagine a coach or a GM, especially when
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you're Andrew Berry and you're black, or you're Mike Tomlin
and you're black, or you're Cam Warred who got drafted first.
This isn't about it. You're looking for the best football
players that provide everything. And maybe the headache for some
was too much. Maybe they didn't want it. Maybe they
liked when I hear about how his meetings went that
that's concerning head said on that bothers me and it
would bother them. So whatever the reason, And then that
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snowball goes and you're like, we were all shocked you
went the fifth round. I wasn't shocked E didn't going
the first fifteen picks. And I really wasn't shocked E
didn't go in the first rounds. We talked about Friday.
Then it starts to go. You think, then teams are like, damn,
remember I said on price and when a player starts
to drop, teams will see it gets into the second round.
Now you're like, WHOA, I'm a little nervous here. I'm
a little nervous about why do you get out of
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the first round? But we got to stop the lazy
air and a really important thing about race that NFL
people with incredible mix of different race, gender religions, they
did not get on a zoom call and say let's
collude to keep shood or standers out of the first round.
Now they're saving a lot of money. It's competition all that,
but in football for the most part. Now, I'm not
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saying it doesn't exist. It didn't exist in this case.
There's whether the whatever the extenuating circumstances are, it wasn't
because of the color of his skin. We got to
stop that lazy narrative, and it's it's it's lazy. Now
some may have it, but as an overall group, I
mean overall, the NFL is not a racist league. It's
just not. It's not. So how are they so so
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all of a sudden in the fifth round you're not racist,
but you were in the first when you didn't draft
somebody like that. No, no, no, it doesn't work. There's
other reason, and we may not like the other reasons,
but there are other reasons, and it ain't it isn't that.
We got to stop that because when a real race
issue presents itself and we're sitting there. It is diminishing
exactly what it's supposed to be. I don't think that
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the New Orleans States up there and said, you know what,
we're gonna draft a white quarterback over a black quarterback.
They felt that Tyler show give them better chance to
win for whatever reason. You may not like it, but
they did so. It's crazy, but that's not the story.
The efficiency of the Texans give them a chance. They
also know that they got a great chance to win
in this division, or they wouldn't have traded out of
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the first round. They got was best for their team.
Speaker 6 (18:22):
Yeah, a lot of the storylines you used through out there,
we'll throw out as the course of the show goes.
But then, you know, you just mentioned the Texans right there.
That's a good starting point for us this morning. Because
a clear plant put forth over the weekend. We'll discuss
that here Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 7 (18:38):
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Speaker 9 (18:40):
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Speaker 1 (18:45):
Back to the Sean Salisbury Show on Sports Talk seven.
Speaker 7 (18:48):
Ninety back to back right there.
Speaker 6 (18:51):
Two guys after your own heart, well one of them
at least, Jalen Smith playing at USC his entire career.
What he marks is is a Mississippi State guy. I mean,
I know that he did well for you guys last year,
but he made his bones in Starkville and finished it
off at US Scene, had a really good season, But
still I think of him as a Mississippi State guy.
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And then you get Jalen Reid, the safety out of
Penn State, Graham Mertz possible backup Keyante Hamilton, defensive tackle
out of Rutgers who I don't know much about. And
then Luke las Shay, a huge body tight end out
of Iowa that probably is being brought in for a
chance to be another huge blocking up body up there
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to try to give c. J. Stroud some protection when
he is out there on the field. But all in all, though,
I mean with this group, I mean it seemed like
there was a strategic approach when it came to the
receiver position, Go get the guy that can be the
compliment to Nico Collins. The pro comparisons are Nico Collins
when it comes to Jayden Higgins and for Noel, that
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to me signals very clearly you're not seeing Tank Dell
this season.
Speaker 7 (20:01):
I think that Tank del thing the second you got
through diagnosis of his injury, how serious it was. I
don't see how you could have counted on him anyway.
Speaker 10 (20:09):
They know that.
Speaker 7 (20:10):
And it's not to say that Tank Dell's not coming back.
I don't know how good Tank Deal's going to be
coming back. None of us do back to back injuries
in seasons, and this one was more devastating than the first.
And everybody knows how hard he works and would grind
he I mean, he goes to work, but sometimes you
I mean, you don't know what the end result is
going to be with this, so you had to protect yourself.
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And I think they're they're hoping for, as is him,
not only one hundred percent recovery, but you're going to
be a better player, that's what you're hoping. But you
also have to do what's the best for the team.
And they needed depth there and they needed some guys
that could come in and get it done. And they now,
you tell me that wasn't a need. That position absolutely
was a need, not just offensive line. So and you know,
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if the DNA matches. I didn't watch his son play much.
I know this. Iowa tight ends are pretty successful no
matter where they're drafted at the next level. They they
understand that you got a block and their underrated pass
catchers when they get to the league because you know
that team has been so you know, when Kittle got drafted,
people knew he was a mauler, but man, did you
know he was that good with his hands in space
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and doing all the things he does in great leadership.
You know when your name team captain one year, two whatever,
it was pretty impressive. And Jim Laschet's son I call him.
I didn't even know what Jim Lache's son's first name
was until the draft, right, but his dad meaning Jim
Kid's dad. If the DNA is close, you'll make the team.
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Be a player. I mean, his old man was a
monster tackle in pro football. So we'll see how it goes.
But I thought they It felt to me also that
there wasn't throwaway picks that once you got to the
fifth round, they got guys that they still think and
you still draft him even in the seventh round to
make your team. That's why you draft him. So they
got need, they've got players, they've ACKed added compliments and
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when you lose Tank Dell and Stefan Diggs both not
only the injury, but also both playing somewhere else. That
you two, well two you're starting three. When you line
up in your three wides, guess what two of them
are gone, one's hurt, and one's out of the building
playing somewhere else. So where's he at New England Stefan Diggs? Yeah, right,
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So when that happens, you've got to answer that. That
doesn't mean that you don't think that you know, still
think that John Mechi can't be a player, or that
Christian Kirk's not going to come in. I mean, they
have expectation for him, but you needed firepower there and
they went out and got some that can make a difference.
I had no problem with the way they did it,
and I think they upgraded their football team on Thursday
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Friday or yeah, Thursday, Friday and Saturday.
Speaker 6 (22:41):
Don't sleep on the Woody Marks pick because they did
not have a pick until the sixth round.
Speaker 7 (22:45):
They traded up to get him to ing go there
you go.
Speaker 6 (22:48):
So that's telling you that there's plans because I think
that through all the conversations you've had once the season ended,
the draft process, whatever it might be that you had
Nick Assario saying we can't rule on Joe Mixon the
way that we did last year. We've got to have
somebody that can take some of the workload off of
his plate, because I mean, you know, you've only got
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so many carries, You've only got so many hits in
there for running backs before finally that wall is hit.
The Texans are hoping that wall is not here.
Speaker 7 (23:16):
Oh, there's no doubt, and you can get you can
get just as much production giving him less work, especially
if you can implement him more, which I would hope
that's part of the plan. Is mixed it in the
space pass game. I they there's a reason they went
up and got him that kid, so there's some depth.
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And then it tells you, okay, what do we is
Piers going to be here returning kicks? What's his role?
But they they are making sure that they don't get
left stranded without a guy that fits what they want
to do. I thought they were methodical and well thought
out in the draft. I did you know at times?
And this is I don't kiss the ass. If I
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thought it was horrible, we do it. There will be Okay.
Could you at the spot you traded out of on Thursday?
Could you have got a dominant player there even at
twenty five, and we won't know that until we see
what a guy like Simmons does at the next level
and how can Sidy use them and the guys that
were taken after you traded out of that. But also
you got to keep an eye on Oh, they can
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both happen on your side. Meanings you missed out on
Simmons or you passed on some good players to trade back,
and then you got players and they could end up
being special. So right now we're like, there's going to
be some say, why do we trade out of that position.
There's going to be some say, well, we're not sure
how it's going to turn out more value and overused
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word when it comes to the draft. But three years
from now and then we can start to judge if
they should have stayed and picked and if the guy's healthy,
you'll look back. But that happens in every single draft.
Man we let that guy get by, I mean every round,
somebody's going to say, man, we let the guy behind us,
we didn't take him. That's called Sunday and Saturday. And
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there's a big difference between the two leagues of how
good you are on one day, and if stats were
the overbearing stat then we'd have a lot of Heisman
Trophy winners that were far more successful than they were
on Sunday than they were on Sundays. But I had
great Saturdays. There's a big difference grown ass Man League
on Sundays, no doubt about it.
Speaker 6 (25:19):
Speaking of the offensive line, you just alluded to it
right there. That's something that I thought came in the
focus this weekend for the Texans. We'll discuss that again.
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Speaker 6 (27:03):
You know, you look at this weekend and I mentioned
nine players were taken, six on the offensive side, and
you're saying, well, there's got to be at least three
offensive linemen in there, right, Oh no, there's not three
offensive linemen in there. There's only one aroante URSII. And
you know had somebody this morning, you know, reach out
and then say they just weren't really sure what the
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Texans plan was on the offensive line. But let me
take let me take you through what they did this offseason.
Cam Robinson obviously here not a long term solution, but
still somebody that is a good left tackle in this league,
and somebody that is not as good as the guy
that you just sent out the door, but he's somebody
that's not going to have a massive precipitous drop off
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from the guy that was there. That's one Lake and
Tomlinson another guy you got for depth at Ingram same deal.
People forget they got Trent Brown too, a guy that's
done some good things in this league, and he's also
going to be able to provide some depth for you.
So the moral of the story is is Ursery is
here with I think one of two express purposes. Number One,
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you get to camp and there's a competition between he
and Cam Robinson, and who's to say that Ersery doesn't
win the job.
Speaker 7 (28:13):
Right there at left tackle, and you say, hey, let's
go with the young guy.
Speaker 6 (28:16):
We're gonna go through the Cam Robinson and move on
cutting them, trading them, any of those different types of things,
because you're not married to him. You've got him for
one year and he's only going to be here for
one year. He knows that, and everybody knows that. So
that's where that comes in the play. And then Ursery,
I mean, what's what's the problem with getting to where
you have options on the offensive line because a couple
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of years ago you had to make trades during training
camp to be able to make sure that you felt
good about the starting five and probably even the two
backups that you carry on game day that could be
able to go out there and help protect a rookie quarterback.
Last year you didn't have that at all. You had
a group that was in disarray. This year, you're looking
to at least say, all right, if this guy's not
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getting it done, at least I believe I can count
on a guy that has played in this league and
has done some things.
Speaker 7 (29:04):
Yeah, those five guys up front. There's no and I'm
talking about quarterback wide receiver as well, there's no group
that has to be in unison and play together more
than even quarterback wide receiver because the curls. The curls
a curl of go routes and go routes to go route.
But there with all the different line calls that they
couldn't block basic stuff last year, simple simple, basic stuff,
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And when they were in the right position, sometimes they
were just physically manhandled. Simple they just weren't there. They
weren't nasty, they just they kind of just went through.
They were blah and they played like it and you
needed to disrupt that, and they did and they've moved
on from it. Of course, Urseree isn't Lermie Tunsel yet. Okay,
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that's why it's called a rookie, and you got to
wait till he starts to develop. I imagine they're going
to be more well coached, more well prepared, and more
roles defined and get people in their position. But depth there,
more more than likely you're not going to be able
to play all five all season long. That doesn't happen
very often towards the five guys, and they don't get hurt.
And other than a you know, when you got shortyard
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and goal lying or jumble person of those five guys
st it'd be great because if you do, that's great
because then the line calls and the rest of it
are in unison and they get an idea that they
can all speak for each other and finish each other sentences.
That's more important than a quarterback knowing where a dig
route is. But trust me, he knows it's it's fifteen
yard dig. It's fifteen yard dig. But there's so many
twists and turns and games being played up front. You
have to have those guys and taught well. So yeah,
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well it may not be flashy. Like I said. You
give me a Hall of Famer and four average guys
or five good players that are just solid. You can
keep the Hall of famer. Give me the five guys together. Now,
if you're fortunate enough to be on some lines I've
been on where three of them were all Americans and
three of them are first round draft picks, and in
the NFL, one was a Pro Bowl type player at
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center and the other two are both Hall of famers. Well, now,
then that's the great bonus. They don't have that here,
but to get five consistent players keep the quarterback up right.
That's obviously a priority this offseason. And they would have
drafted more lineman had they not been that active in
free agency during the off season. But they got a
guy that Aaron Wilson told us on Friday, was it Friday? Yeah, Friday,
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that they were that that was a target for them
and they got him. So they're building something. I like
the fact they went out and got you know, depth
of wide receiver, added lineman, a guy that they love,
and now let's go see what happens. Now it's how
do they fit in here? And you take that and
that doesn't matter what round you're drafted in. Now now
you've got to go be a football player and study
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and prepare. And I think that they did a solid
enough job to still keep them at the top of
this division going into the season. They're the best team
in the division still.
Speaker 6 (31:45):
The only thing that you know, you're mentioning about the
offensive line, and I mean, you have a new offensive
line coach sort of because he was the assistant offensive
line coach last year in Popovich. So if you're going
to say all of this the you know, wholesale changes
were needed and you know you need to add some
nastiness to that group. All right, Fine, he's an assistant
offensive line coach. Maybe his voice only goes so far
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at that point. But if you had all of that
and you still promote from within in the building, how
are you necessarily saying that the page is completely turned.
Speaker 7 (32:15):
Because you still have leftovers from you're talking about the
line coach. Yeah, now it's not a complete clean slate,
is what you're asking. Yeah, well, just because you're the
the assistant line coach and some guy had a philosophy
in front of you, doesn't mean you're bringing that same philosophy.
But Sair, and remember in the room you got a
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quarterback coach. Let's say you got a graduate assistant quarterback
coach or a guy that's a quarterback coach that is
an analyst. You know, I hied him. He was a
head coach, he got fired and Nick Saban brought him
as in an analyst. Does he have the same say,
even though he may very well have been a coach
somewhere else a head coach someone else got fired. Now
he's in an analyst role because he wants stay involved
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in football. Does does that mean that he gets more
say than the quarterback coach that's there, who may be
twenty years younger than him. Absolutely not. That quarterback coach
and that coordinator get more say. So Listen, I've been
in rooms with the guys coach and in my thought
process is we shouldn't be doing it that way, and
you talk to him, we should be doing it a
different way, or you know, the quarterbacks in the room
think different than the guy teaching and say, well, why
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would you attack it that way when we could just
slide the line one way? And that guy's in our vision. However,
it is whatever the teaching, Sometimes the assistant teachers better
than the I mean, the substitute is actually better than
the original teacher. So I understand what you're saying. When
you clear house, it doesn't mean just because you didn't
clear out the assistant. Now he may have that, but
he also may have learned even a more valuable lesson
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what not to teach and what not to coach, because
you are absolutely in the building. But the verbiage isn't
going to change, so that's a help. And now you're
the guy and very well, maybe in those meetings people
sit around saying the guy the backup, I mean, the
assistant low line coach knows more and knows how to
relate to the players and teach him better than we can.
He's got a different approach. So he may have just
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been there like a good soldier all year long, thinking, man,
I think different than this line. Not backstabbing him to
the head coach, but think I think a little different.
And then he went through the interview process and they
liked him more. So I don't think it's a detriment
to say, well, guess what, man he is. He's the
same guy. He's just a different rapper because he coached
underneath him. Now, I've played for coaches that I wouldn't
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take much of their philosophy with me to the next
level if I was coaching. But I've played with some
that I take some of it, but not all of it,
And that's okay. There's some good things that they did.
So to take what's good and be able to discern
with what you got to take with you what you
got to leave behind. And that's exactly what they're going
to have to do now to alleviate and get rid
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of exactly what you're saying. Oh, this is just an
extension of the crap we saw last year. I don't
think Demiko would want that. I think he saw something
different in the teaching and approach they're going.
Speaker 11 (34:53):
To go with this.
Speaker 6 (34:54):
Yeah, I mean, you know, the time will tell in
terms of what Popovich you know, is different in in
terms of what Strasser was, and you know what what
he can bring to the group now. But I mean,
you know, you've got different faces in there now, You've
at least got at least tangible names that you feel
like you can work with. And we'll see if the
Texans can be able to find a good starting five
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with that group against seven one three two one two
five seven ninety the number to get in. But the
Astros some good stuff yesterday. Welcome to twenty twenty five.
Speaker 7 (35:25):
For this guy. We'll discuss right here. Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 6 (35:30):
The Shawn Salisbury Show continues, and it did no no
now you know, and Saturday, you know, I said that
it was two examples. It was the who meet the
new boss same as the old boss? Where I would
say that it was a little bit of a different
picture because then I said that I was paying from
the office where it was, Oh you know, it's this picture,
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that picture, it's literally the same picture, because it really
was to nothing. You just couldn't get anything going off
in the way. I mean almost everything on Saturday was
the same as it was on Friday. Where you get
East Soak Paradis going the opposite way for a double
and you're like, what is this, Like we in the
twilight zone right here, Like, what's what's happening right now?
(36:14):
And Frombervale does though at least he was awesome.
Speaker 11 (36:17):
Where he was.
Speaker 7 (36:18):
Awesome, Hunter Brown was awesome. Bullpen did their job that
they did. I mean, you lose back to back games
two Oh can't you can't put the ball in play
at the right time, You're gonna get beat and it's
it's we could sit here and get into every single
little thing that went on. They got shut out back
to back games, even with good pitching performances. Oh was
it Wiznsky on Friday? Yeah, it was opposite Saturday Friday.
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Frober was from for Saturday Friday. Now it was a
Nescy was Friday normally the way they pitched, you'd walk
out of those three games, uh thinking you want them
all two? Two and three or was it two? Yeah,
they got a third run and you hang seven on him,
(37:02):
a hundred browns of friggin' machine. And obviously Fromber, that
that Frombers gives you the I'll tell you what that
Fromber and that hunter Brown give you is good or
in the team picture. Maybe I should say to be
fair to like the Dodgers because their best pitcher may
(37:22):
very well be a guy who's not who isn't giving
you as much, you know what I'm saying, who hit
All he did was hitl I mean, this guy who
can throw it a hundred, you know what I'm saying,
if he focused on pitching, he'd show. Hey, maybe when
the cy young every year too, as good as he
could be. But regardless, you look around the league, Philly,
there's a lot of teams a good one too, But
they're in the team picture. When those two guys are going.
They are absolutely lefty righty when you especially when you
(37:45):
the split of lefty righty, they are definitely in the
team picture of one and two. And you've got good
enough pitching this weekend to win you did not get
good enough hitting on Friday and Saturday to do that.
So the pitching for the Astros was good. You watch
with a lugo on Friday night Friday and then walka.
Right there you go and walka. You know, started in
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Saint Louis, Boston. He's always had potential. He's a Texas kid.
If I'm not mistaken, that's exactly right. So you ran
into some good pitching. In the first two games they
matched your aces, and then in game three obviously I
take a meaning Hunter Brown three. But two of the
three games they matched your races, is my point, and
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you got the one win, and even with Wesnsky's performance,
you got to come up big. So when you go
zero zero seven, you're can only give up two you'd
think coming out of it. If I didn't tell you
anything that happens to Thursday, Friday and Saturday, they scored
two runs, and you'd say, oh, who pitched Wesnsky, And
(38:51):
frommer ball game over Sunday, you'd say, oh, they gave
up the three runs, Oh who pitched on Brown? We
won and they did, so you can break it all
the way down you want. When you don't score runs
and you this has been the problem with them, the
extreme six runs, five runs, seven runs, zero zero one.
Remember at the beginning of the season was one run,
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one run, two runs. They took him with three or
four games before they got out of that. Were you know,
we were they had a two or three run type. Yeah,
I think the plateau, yeah exactly. So it's like, when
are you gonna explode? The problem is there's two there's
not enough of those, and they just they just didn't
hit the ball and they ran into some good pitching themselves.
But when the hitting consistently matches the way we're getting
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pitching from the starters and the bullpen, for the most part,
the Houston Astros can go on a run.
Speaker 6 (39:39):
The funny thing is is the best picture they faced
all weekend was the guy yesterday boo bitch, And I
mean he was just as good as Hunter Brown has
been one four to five e r A coming into
the game. You're talking about going into the Yeah, oh,
there's no questions.
Speaker 7 (39:52):
And Jeremy Peneya said, oh, we'll see about that that
they have and we need it was nice to see
with Jordon right, oh great, Yeah, it was really nice.
And maybe that on a run and get this thing going.
But in truth, yeah, going in you're like, man, we're
facing what a matchup? Pitching matchup on Sunday, And yet
they got two good and there's a big reason why
what you saw this weekend from the Royals is and
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obviously Salvador Perez and Bobby Witchune they got some good players.
But that's why people pick the Kansas City Royals. Me
included pretty good pitching staff to either compete or win
the division or make the playoffs, right and so, and
the astro's got to look at it, but jumped on
it and got out. And then when you jump out
three four to nothing and Hunter Browns on the mount
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and another quality start to get you know what through
the sixth inning was Guy's lights out. Man and their
pitching staff is playing Division when playing Division winning baseball,
they just are. And now the hitting has got to
be consistent in match. Maybe it's time for Jordon to
get rolling after he finally homework.
Speaker 6 (40:51):
I call them penny wise for a reason, because you know,
like penny Wise, you want a balloon here, try a
bunch of them. That seems like what Jordon does when
it comes to the long balls. See if he's able
to carry that over.
Speaker 7 (41:01):
Those were the good.
Speaker 6 (41:02):
One thing though not so good. We'll discuss that here.
When it comes to the Astros. Starts seven o'clock hour
again hour from now. Steve Sparks joins us for his
weekly visit here on the show.
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Speaker 11 (41:39):
Okay, let's do this.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
Sean Salisbury.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
To usc troes, longtime friend Shawn Salisbury.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Dan Matthews host. This is the Sewan Salsbury Show. Sean,
the stash plays for Chas McCormick.
Speaker 6 (41:59):
And are you pointing out to me during the break
that Todd callus taking a little liberties with the Chazzy
Fizz nickname.
Speaker 7 (42:06):
Yeah, he did. He sat there and watching and I
wasn't paying attention to Chas Moo's face, right, and he said, oh,
Chasy Fizz, I mean he called him Chazzy Fuzz. And
I'm like, did I miss something or did TK mispronounce
it or does he know? And then as we should expect,
he's very clever and gets it and said chazy fuzz
(42:27):
because the little musk, I said, ah, it's so a
nice play on words by Todd Kallous, and it was.
It was classic. And he goes like three for three,
got three hits, and he's only had what twenty summer
bats this year? Yeah, like high teens around twenty eighteen. Now, yeah,
so well the batting average is gonna rise whenever you
got twenty some of bats, right around twenty bats and
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you go three for three, you're raising points there. But
good on him. And it was a clever play on
words by Callous because I don't not a big nickname guy.
We joke about it. But when he said Chazzy fuzz,
I said, I swore because I I've never called him
chazzy fizz. But what he said fuzz, then you saw
the must I say, clever play by you. Well, I
mean I I don't quite do t K.
Speaker 6 (43:08):
As well as two guys that's sit in the seat, well,
one that used to your former counterpart, and also he's
the guy in the afternoon. Uh ac Adam Clanton can
do a pretty good one, but uh, Chazzy fuzz. I mean,
and and I was I always love to with TK
his two goats. Who's there's a base it he got him?
Those are those are two of the ones he goes with.
(43:29):
But no, I I noticed it when he made that
ranging catch in the right center field and you know,
they show him in the field and I was like,
oh mustache, okay, interesting look. And then the following inning
he goes up there and gets his first hit of
the day. I was like, maybe the stash is the
play for him.
Speaker 7 (43:45):
But I think chasm was all over, wasn't it. He
was he was feeling it yesterday. It was good to see.
Speaker 6 (43:49):
I mean, you know, especially to where Jake Myers had
gone on a little bit of a you know, strong
heater at the plate and he started to kind of
taper off a little bit. That's why I think you're
starting to see other guys get looks out in center
field with him struggling there. But I mean, McCormick continues this,
he could be out in the field quite a bit more.
It's the same deal with Zach Dezenzo. When Dezenzo is
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getting playing time, then you get the off day, yespisations, yeah, right,
you get the off day yesterday for Altuve, where you're saying, hey,
this guy's given us a lot of chances to be
able to win ball.
Speaker 7 (44:19):
Games, no question about it. And all right, I guess
what I'm what I don't want to see, and I
know we're seeing it at the times. I don't want
to see one hundred and forty five different lineups this year.
I just don't, which means either center fie, I mean,
the regular's got to step up and do their thing
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every day, or you got to make a decision that
you're making a switch and let that guy play as
often as you can to get reped. So I don't
I don't know what the answer is. You know, Jake
was going well, gives you great defense. He's going to
play more than anybody else's iner field, regardless if the
batting average dropped sixty more points. We know this chas
McCormick's not a three hundred hitting guy, that that that's
(45:01):
not him. The more it ba's what's he gonna hit
two seventy five at his best? Maybe I mean back
to what years ago had people wanting him to play
more right and be the every day starter. Yes, so
those things, and I understand days off and stuff, but
I would love to get to the point. And and
over the years games have changed. You it was rare
(45:21):
that you'd go to the ballparker watched him and at
least seven or eight of your guys weren't in every day.
I mean, I can never and I agree, you know,
I know times have changed. I don't know why this
has to change. Specialization and you know, rest matters, but
I think we overplay it, especially in a baseball and
I don't to me when you watch the Phillies and
Mike Schmidt, no group, but David he was an every
(45:42):
day George Brett was in the line of you know
when I say every day one hundred and fifty five
hundred fifty again unless they were hurt, Mike Schmidt, George Brett,
I mean here say Sarcedania and Bob Watson, whoever it was.
I just and I know when talked to Joe Aspota
that rest matters, but that he didn't want to have
one hundred and forty five different lineups this year. But
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as long as the outfield, the fluctuation and young and
veteran and somebody's not doing their thing regularly, you're gonna
see a bunch out. The reason you do this is
either one you're overprotective or two you're underproductive with starters.
The only two reasons you do it. Overprotective meaning ooh,
played nine games in a row, Gotta give him a
rest even though he's going good, which I don't subscribe to.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
I just don't.
Speaker 7 (46:27):
The ball's not heavy, and either is FOURD bats not
a long walk to the plate. That's just my opinion.
Now for catchers works different in a night day game.
We've talked here, So for me it's just it's one
to two. It's either overprotective injuries that you can put
that in a parentheses, or underproductive. That's why you have
a million different lineups and to me not a fan
of it.
Speaker 6 (46:47):
Well I remember, I mean you and Brian a time
talking with Joe has spotted there at FanFest and he
said it as much. He was like, I don't want
to do what we did last year. I want to
have as consistent as a group going day in and
day out as we can.
Speaker 7 (47:00):
Well do we know the metrics on that? Yet there's
many games in how many different lineups we've had. No
ross might but I don't know. I wonder I'm sure Baseballavan,
Oh yeah, we could find it. I just wonder how
far we are. The optics, you know, may be different
than the actual metrics of the of what's going on.
They may have had their lineup in you know, eighteen
(47:21):
of the games, and but even if it's just seven
or eight of the guys, I understand that you're gonna
you know, Cam Smith's gonna come out, Decenzo's gonna move in,
or Al two B is gonna go to second base,
you're gonna get Yordan on and left field whatever, But
the same, the same, you know, characters doing their thing.
And you know, we're not anywhere near being at a
(47:42):
point where oh this is who they are. I mean,
we're not close to sixty games in yet. But I'm
just a guy that, once you decide who the starters are,
unless they play their way out of it.
Speaker 6 (47:50):
They play every day, well, I mean a guy that's
playing every day but just continues to be one step forward,
two steps back. Christian Walker, man, he it's just it's
it's almost painful to watch some of these at bats
right now from him.
Speaker 7 (48:04):
So are you are you thinking that there's there's controversy
budding there no.
Speaker 6 (48:12):
No controversy. You're gonna You're going to let him work
his way out of this. And by the way, too,
the comparisons with Josea Bray, you there's no comparison. I mean,
even with him not reaching what we would hope to
see at a Christian Walker, right now, it's still much
better fielder, a guy that you still believe can give
you a much better at bat and won't particularly get overmatched.
(48:35):
But right now it looks mental at the moment, like
it what else it looks It looks like there's a
lot of mechanics that are going through his mind when
it when when he's at the plate at this moment,
because I mean, Sean, he's missing fastballs that I'm like,
he shouldn't be missing those.
Speaker 7 (48:50):
I can tell you this, I'll just I'll just apply it.
You know, sometimes we lean on people and may have
seen it a little different. I love people's you know,
and put on stuff that maybe, oh yeah, that's right,
you saw it that way. Just let me tell you
from my point of view, at playing the quarterback position,
you can be going good and your mind has no
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clutter in it and you're like, I'm not doing anything
different than when I was going back boom and just
all of a sudden, whatever it was, it changed. A
flip of the mental part. I can tell you this,
a flip of the mental changed you for the good
more than a flip of the physical. I'm just telling
you you don't forget how to hit or throw when
you wake up one day. Now when you're ten, you're
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watching different guys and you've got eighteen different stants right
at the plate because you're like you see your favorite players. Oh,
I want to hold my hands low. I want to
be a high hands guy. I want to be a
batwaggle guy. I want to open stance. I want to
close my step. Oh, yes, you're impressionable, right, but as
you get up, you know I'm not changing my arm
slot ten years into my NFL career, right right, And
he's not changing more than likely the stance and the
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way where he holds his hands and his feet whatever.
Open closed. However, being a guy who's in his mid
thirties and has played some pretty good baseball in his career,
so what happens is you're going through success or you
come out of it and think about the factors that
come in, and I'm not making an excuse for him
at all, regardless of your forty or twenty new team
high expectations, especially with the focus and the hyper sensitive
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place at first base has been a hack position here
for the most part, since I'm not saying the guys
are hacks. It's tough to play Bro Baseball. But it's
been a week a glaring weakness since yearly left. You haven't. Yeah,
you have not had a viral first baseman since twenty two.
You may have had a viable one, but the young
guys are not playing, or somebody else on that could
move positions place, you're not playing that position, right, So
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you've struggled, and especially on the offensive side of the
ball or offensive side of the plate, should I say,
or when your team's at the plate. Yeah, So when
you have when you go through that, what happens is
you can have all these years of success and I
know this quarterback and all of a sudden, I don't
know whether it's the yips on the putting green or
you throw three picks. I had a four pick game
once in my career, and it was against Seattle. One
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of them was turned for a touchdown. Had I have
belabored that point. The next week, I think we came
back and I can't remember who it was, but going
you know, we played good footballer any time you have it.
But I know the feeling of my mechanics didn't change
what's going on here. What happens is you grip the
ball a little harder. You go, you strike out three
times a game or two times to throw two picks,
and you're like, okay, this has got to be mechanics, right, No, dude,
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you just made a bad decision. Were a little late.
Maybe you were late setting up in the pocket, maybe
you didn't see it, you were looking at something, watching
the path, whatever it is. And next thing you know,
you've thrown three picks and you're like, okay, I got
to change things for one game, dude, when you've had
all the success the week before you were the player
of the week and three for four hundred yards, or
in the week you hit two home runs, whatever it is,
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it is the mental You're one hundred percent correct. This
isn't a Now if all of a sudden you look
at alls we got to do. Is put as side
by side of when he was raking and when he's not,
and I'll bet you the difference take that much. Sure.
So what happens is you get into that mode of all, okay,
you get into the mode of it's got you think
it's physical, but then the mental grind. So you're squeezing
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the sawdust out of the bat and you're trying to
do things slight adjustment with your front toe. If somebody
comes you, like the hitting structor, say dude, it's all
your hands are six inches lower than they were when
you were having success. Let's just work on that in
the cage. But it gets to this point where for
me and watching seeing that it's easy for a guy
who had that success even as a veteran, you get
into it in the mid you're like, man, the mental part,
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and then what happens is the mental part starts to
skew the physical mechanics of it. So then you're screwing
both of them up right. You're saying it's got to
be physical, and so you try to change something and
then you're not. You're failing there, and what do you do.
You go back to the way you were having success
and the mental part is behind. And I'm just telling
you with guys like that that the mental part at
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quarter You think a quarterback who's had two bad games
in a row but has been had a highly successful
career just decided that he didn't know how to throw anymore. No,
the other team's getting paid, pitchers getting paid, and you
start to do it, and you start to do things
that are uncharacteristic mentally, which changed things. It didn't need change.
All you needed was a deep breath to realize a team.
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You're putting a littleressure on yourself because he knows the
dynamic that was here. So that's from my vantage point.
Maybe Steve Sparks can give us an idea, but he's
trying to pull too much. You sat there and watched
the home run by the Dias. That ball was away.
What do you do instead of yanking it androlling over,
the guy pumps it to right center, right field in
homers and he smoked it. Da is if he mentally
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lets it get in the way from the way he started.
He pulls that ball and it's a it's a ground out.
So it happens, and all it takes is one or
two of those to get into it. But for me,
Christian Walker, this is a mental thing. And then all
of a sudden it affects the physical. I think mental.
In my position, it was never I couldn't throw or
I was smart and do all that. When I got
behind or didn't play well, it was simply one physical
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miss then led to mental clutter, which then made three
or four mental mistakes, and instead of getting rid of
the rear view mirror, you said, oh, I got to
change other things, when in truth, it was just, dude,
just make the right decision to trust with you, and
then you start to then you don't trust yourself. Yeah,
and that's all mental, which leads. I don't think it's
the opposite. I don't think the physical leads are the metal.
I think it's the mental that affects the physical. Then
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all of a sudden you adjust on the physical and
you didn't really need to, and you're adjusting in the
wrong spot. It's misdirected approach to hitting or however you're doing,
or a quarterbacking. In my career, I can tell you
now I could throw it with anybody. When I got
behind or when I wasn't playing my best. It was
allowing one mistake to catapult you into three more without
getting out of it. Quick to me, if I told
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I don't care what sport you play. Get over the
good and the bad equally as quick because neither one
of them lasts that long. Yeah, they just don't. Now.
The guy that can get over the quick bad or
the bad quickly and gets back into the good. That's
we call consistently. It's the old It's never as good
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Speaker 6 (57:01):
We're gonna have to turn this matter over to Sean
Oh no.
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Speaker 6 (57:24):
It is Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety. Astros
avoid the sweep seven three win yesterday in Kansas City
against the Royals Tigers next in Town Rockets Game four
Western Conference Playoffs, trying to avoid going down three to
one to the Golden State Warriors and the Texans take
nine players over the weekend in the draft.
Speaker 7 (57:44):
Well, Sean Bill Belli, nobody had a better weekend than
Eugenio though he didn't. Nobody did. Yeah, nobody, no draft pick.
Gene Swarez, Yeah, Geno Suarez, Jene.
Speaker 6 (57:54):
Yeah, man, Eugenio got you gotta put respect on a
good Geno. I was always lucky to whatever. Yeah, somebody's
name Gene. I called him Gino. Dude, how many every
guy's name is? Jean's gotta be Gino?
Speaker 7 (58:06):
And is it like Geno Atkins g E n O
or is it Geno Orima or even the G E
n O g I n o. Oh you said there's
a e and then there's the yeah yeah yeah because
the quarterback Miami, Yes, Tretta Gino Tretta Ja Tretta was
an I n O. I'm pretty sure teammate of mine
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at least in training camp his rookie year, and we
were roommates. I love Gene. Uh see Genos, Geno, you
call him Gene. If he's Geene, you call him Gino.
Tradid great dude, man, I loved we had some good times.
He but Suarez that a weekend. Man, he did well
a weekend. No, he had a week in one game
the Bats going to the Hall of Fame. Four homers,
last one was J. D. Martinez, same team as you
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heard my guy Steve Bertham on the call, last on
the play by play for the Arizona Diamonbacks. But four
and none of them were they were all no doubt
or so. He had a really nice month in a
game so good for no wallscrapers. Yeah, there you go
back to your football.
Speaker 6 (59:04):
Yeah, guy that people thought was going to be here
in Houston but still there in Arizona. But yes, Bill
Belichick used to have to get ready for the draft.
Now he's trying to get guys ready for the draft
as the head coach at North Carolina. But Sean, we'll
get to yesterday's CBS Sunday Morning interview that everybody's talking
about in a second. But I mean, just to kind
(59:25):
of the timeline of this go back of you know,
we find out he and young Jordan Hudson are together.
Then we're finding out that Hey, if you guys send
me anything through an email, would you make sure that
she's copied on it, because you know she she's got
part of this, and then we get the footage from
spring practice. You know, basically out there almost kind of
(59:45):
looking like a director of football ops, which that's kind
of inside baseball for some people, but she looks like that.
She's almost like a stage manager out there trying to, like,
you know, move everything along. Well, it continued yesterday on
CBS Sunday Morning, Bill Belichi sitting down and let's just
say that Jordan, Well, it started to annoy the interviewer
(01:00:06):
how much she was micromanaging.
Speaker 7 (01:00:10):
Jordan was a constant presence during our interview.
Speaker 11 (01:00:13):
You have Jordan right over there.
Speaker 7 (01:00:16):
Everybody in the world seems to be following this relationship.
They've got an opinion about your private life.
Speaker 9 (01:00:21):
It's got nothing to do with them, but they're invested
in it.
Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
How do you deal with that?
Speaker 11 (01:00:26):
Never been too worried about what everybody else.
Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
Thanks, just to try to do what I feel like
is that's for me?
Speaker 9 (01:00:31):
And what's right?
Speaker 11 (01:00:32):
How did you guys meet not talking about this?
Speaker 7 (01:00:35):
No, No, it's a topic.
Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
Neither one of them is comfortable commenting on.
Speaker 7 (01:00:41):
Why we're not talking about why? It's it's a simple story.
It's it's it's a simple story. That's all it is.
Speaker 6 (01:00:52):
Or maybe if there is some sort of story that
maybe you don't want to share with people, well then
both get.
Speaker 7 (01:00:58):
On the same page and fudge the detail. It's not
that hard.
Speaker 6 (01:01:02):
How did me and Megan meat Well, we met in college,
but then a few years later I slid in there
her DMS and the rest is history. Now I know
that sometimes sliding into the DMS is not the way
to go, but for this one, obviously it worked.
Speaker 7 (01:01:14):
Yeah, if you don't shoot the shot, you ain't got
no chance to make the hoop man's Uh. Bill looked
a little raggedy. That's hard he did. Listen. I understand
he likes to wear sweatshirts and cut off sleeves, but
at least any interviews in the past, Belichick has been
he'll put a suit on her. You know, he never
looks really, I mean, he's just kind of a I
(01:01:36):
always see him and my visual is him is in
a sweatshirt with a hood. Yes he is.
Speaker 6 (01:01:41):
He's a savant because, like especially in science, savants they
you know, oh hey, I'm kempt up, because they're so
smart that all of those things elude them. I don't
even think about.
Speaker 7 (01:01:50):
It in watching that and seeing what we talked about
on this show too, about her walking around the back
of the endzone and practice. She's on the field in
white Go Go boots at North Carolina. Now listen, is
it a little odd for a guy in the seventies
to be dating a twenty four year old? It feels weird.
I don't know what the conversation consists of. That they
want to TikTok videos together. I don't know how much
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conversation you have. I mean, I'm sure she in the
sheets makes him happy. I guess I don't know, but
that's not my business. I really don't care who he dates.
I don't but and it's really none of our business
until it becomes your business in interviews and you saying it.
Then we got to speculate, well, why how'd you meet him?
And really no matter how they met, I don't care,
(01:02:35):
in truth, but it makes it even more we're gonna
ask it more now that we're like have to decide, Oh,
we're being secretive here. Did you meet on some dating site?
Was it a setup? Was it just like it said
you sign me. I've read a bunch of different ones
where signed her book on a plane that she was
on with you, and she asked questions and she and
then it led to something else, or she was nineteen
(01:02:57):
when they met. Apparently he read that too. I don't
know how much you know what I'm saying. It's all
over the place, and this is what happens when we
don't know the answer. I don't care. I think it's
by this ay, when you're at his age. I don't
think you're running into a bar trying to pull a
twenty four year old, but maybe you are. I don't know.
I mean if and if the twenty four year old's
wild enough to fall in love with you fifty years
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younger or forty five years younger, then they both it's
not just a him thing. It's a her thing too.
It's weird. Bill's more than likely fifteen years older than
her parents, more than likely at least seems weird. But
that's not the part that bothers me. It's just like,
did she cut his balls off? And I mean did
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he get emasculated? It's something is going on. This is
this guy, like I said, not even that she's twenty four,
but the way that the twenty four year old's running
his show. I mean, I understand that part of that's undefeated. Yeah,
I get it. But if there's one person you think
that he just said in the v of it, well,
I've never cared about what people think, and hence why
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he may be dating it two twenty four year old.
I think she's twenty four, mid twenties, whatever it is.
But it's the way you see on the practice. But
she literally have you ever think about all the years
Bill was there, nobody else got to talk the media.
Bill was a face, the voice of that organization. Coaches
don't get to go speak to the media on it
every given day certain times when they have to be
told other than that, Josh McDaniels wasn't doing an interview
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when Bill was there, unless it was for a head
coaching job or at an event where you had to
be able to that the medium. You know that the
NFL makes some Availa. Sure, Bill dude, I've covered him
four years and been in that building. I've never seen
him to the point and maybe you get Kinder and Jitler,
but I've never seen him to the point where you
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show up five minutes late, he may send your ass home.
She's just walked out there and is running the show.
I mean, is she going to when they come home,
Bill going to say, well, what do you think about
we played three four defense this week? Well, we're not
playing three four defense. She tells him, Well, it didn't
look right and you should hear what they're saying. Go
fix this. It felt weird during an interview for her
to look at Bill Belichick. Can you imagine a player
said that to him while he's playing, right, I I
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just like I said she maybe they may have the
greatest relationship in the world. I have no idea. I
don't it would be odd communication. But the whole thing,
I almost feel like she stripped him, Like she's come
in there and said here's the way you're going to.
Speaker 6 (01:05:17):
Do things, and he's allowing it. The house is coming
across like a hostage situation.
Speaker 7 (01:05:21):
It's also coming across as if she's got and she's
got she's got a pair of good of scissors about
to cut his good emasculated his ass. It's weird. We
don't want that, and I know, but it feels like
that if she says we're not doing it, then the
interview is over. I'm asking that question. Imagine it was
kids feel right now like his kids probably have to
(01:05:42):
be like, dad, what do you do? All kids are
far older than she is, right, Yeah, I listen and
I never listen. It's like I don't get in people's wall,
and I try not to, you know, immerse myself into
somebody Else's why they're sure, why they're why they're I
think we got a pretty good idea.
Speaker 6 (01:06:00):
So maybe why the young one likes him and why
he likes her, Oh, we can understand.
Speaker 7 (01:06:06):
I mean that's I get a pretty good idea that
I don't know the depth of their love or the
depth of their lust. I'm not real sure, but I mean,
maybe she woke up one day and say, I see
him on TV every week coaching I'm in love with
Bill Belichick. And then maybe he woke up and says,
she fulfills my conversational piece. I don't know if that's
(01:06:28):
the reason they're both dating or they did. They're gonna
end up getting married if they do, or what have you,
but prenup would probably be in place. I'm not saying
it won't work. They may, but if Bill lives twenty
five more years, she'll be in her forties. Now I
want you to just stop down. Now, I know I'm laughing.
(01:06:51):
You're live twenty five more years? Yeah, which would Hell's
Belichick seventy three seventy four. Sure, let's just say he's
in his early seven right, if she live, if she,
if he lives twenty five more years, which takes him
to pushing one hundred and God bless him, he may
he's so stubborn. He may live till he's on undred
and forty. Good, But when he lives twenty five more years,
(01:07:13):
she will be in her forties. And I want you
to stomach that for a second. So I'm not sure
what the conversation is, but I do get an idea
of maybe why she initially he's attracted to him, and
now they may fall in love and grow from it
like a Hallmark movie. And I understand why. I don't
think he actually got on that when, however, he met her.
I don't care where it was. If they're not talking
(01:07:34):
about it, it means that it wasn't normal. How you know,
did meet at the friggin grocery store?
Speaker 9 (01:07:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (01:07:40):
Okay, they didn't. They didn't meet there, Okay, I don't
know wherever. They didn't meet there, and they didn't meet
at church. So other than that. I'm not sure, and
I probably think the initial conversation, I'm not sure Bill said,
you know what, we could talk a world history together.
Oh I'm sure he probably thought that's impound take delivery
(01:08:00):
from Sarah Lee. Okay, but they make her going to love.
But it's just the interview was odd, and it's an
odd relationship because I've never seen Bill Belichick from a
distance or in the building to have somebody his own
Hall of fame seven time super Bowl quarterback couldn't control him.
This looks to me like You're going to do it
my way and I'm going to be the general manager
at North Carolina or you ain't getting this stuff. Oh
(01:08:24):
wait a minute, honey, I only date you because the
conversation and I love Bill, I do, but it looks
extremely weird.
Speaker 6 (01:08:32):
I can understand the attraction from his side, and I
understand what he is, but from her side, I mean,
can you really be enjoying Maybe he's a love maker
not a banger man. Thank you whoever that was, because
that was my thoughts exactly, like, come on.
Speaker 7 (01:08:50):
Listen to you guys, all this stuff. Why don't you
guys just put it? We're say the truth. He loves her.
She loves him.
Speaker 6 (01:08:58):
I mayfatuated with her. There's a major difference, trust saying
the L word might not be loving. We've all had
to we've all had to learn that lesson. Sometimes you
must be throwing that voodoo thing all over him. Though
it happened.
Speaker 7 (01:09:12):
He's on a trip on his boat and all of
a sudden that voodoo dog gets stuck. That means, get
your ass home, Billy boy.
Speaker 6 (01:09:18):
Oh man, he's he's he's definitely, he's definitely that with
the bandwidth is he like to throw out there?
Speaker 7 (01:09:27):
His bandwidth is very short right now, we'll just leave
it at that. Well, let me just put it to
you this way. He he loves her, I'm sure. But
once again, it's it's undefeated, man spoken completely undefeated. Last
time in twenty five years. If Bill lives twenty five
(01:09:49):
more years, she will be in her forties. I'm sorry,
Steve and the other son and then Sun later, I'm kidding.
Speaker 6 (01:10:00):
Maybe, you know, sometimes we do have you know, the
young Calf, We do have that situation, you know, allegedly, allegedly.
Speaker 7 (01:10:12):
I don't think it'll happen. Bill loves her and she
loves him. That's what I'm going with I'm sticking to
that story.
Speaker 6 (01:10:16):
You go with that, Sean uh speaking of sons of coaches, boy,
embarrassing doesn't even begin to discuss. Would see you right there, Brandon,
see you guys there. Get to you all on the
other side here As the Sewn Salisbury Show continues. The
Sewn Salisbury Show continues, Wood, Good morning, what's going on?
Speaker 7 (01:10:41):
Wood?
Speaker 12 (01:10:42):
Yeah, I don't want to talk about love.
Speaker 9 (01:10:43):
I'll tell you what I love.
Speaker 12 (01:10:44):
I love my football. I love the draft, but I
don't love Nick Caserio. This is the one sided love
affair going on right here. I don't understand what you
got against the number one draft pick last year. You
give up my number one draft pick, you get a
second round, you give it to Buffalo but deed, then
you get Digs on a three year contract. You negotiate
(01:11:06):
with him, and.
Speaker 3 (01:11:07):
Then next thing you know, we don't have him.
Speaker 7 (01:11:09):
He's a one year rental.
Speaker 12 (01:11:10):
Then in the beginning of the draft. But even before
the beginning of the draft on thursd shiit, I mean,
I get an alert on my phone that we that
the texting Native trade. I see you gave up a
fifth round for a sixth and or seven next year,
Wait away, I'm worrying about summer rounds. Think that man
keep the drown pick. And then I'm sitting up here
just looking at everybody come off the board in the
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first round, directing my chop, trying to see whom we
gonna get in the first round. Next thing, you know,
this Rofsku think he's so smart, but he ain't that smart.
He ain't got no common sense. And the GM's that
threw out the league just as smart as him. They
sitting there looking at the phone. Go here, go nickla
Serio detectives calling, or we can fleece him. We can
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get his number one pick, and we ain't got to
give him number.
Speaker 13 (01:11:54):
One pick back.
Speaker 12 (01:11:55):
Everybody else who give up a number one pick at
least get a number one pick back, except for us.
If we give up a number one pick once again,
and the next thing you know, here it is he
jump in. I'm like, come on, Nicklasio and y'all talking
about y'all think he's gonna put an offensive line together.
With these hands being coming from other teams, I don't
(01:12:15):
have no belief in him keeping here. Five years Davis
Mills was running for his life the Fort two years. Now,
we're gonna have a ce that running the next three years,
running for his life because it ain't gonna be no
difference this year because that offensive line they putting together.
I don't have no faith that wasn't nickas Areio doing.
Speaker 7 (01:12:33):
Hey, let me ask you, whatever, who did you want
to take at the first round pick?
Speaker 12 (01:12:39):
Hey, damn picks in the first round that come up? Okay, Yes,
you can still get you a barter five defensive taco
because we still need.
Speaker 3 (01:12:47):
A hog in that middle.
Speaker 12 (01:12:48):
Because everybody realize right now, you win in the trenches.
If you can't get that guard or the taco had
the pick that you want, you still got some good
defensive tacos right in that area there. You can get
somebody that can make a difference on your team for
the next five years. Because that draft pick we gave
away last year, now it's gone. We don't have nobody
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to say we could have had somebody for the four
or five years on that. He's giving away players that
we can use for four to five years. On other
players that we got the hope paying out to be
something because a receiver in the second or third round,
those are pretty much projects that got to get acclimated
to the NFL. It normally take them two to three
years to get up and running. I'd have seen it
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time and time again. It's a rare occasion where you
have a receiver coming out that's gonna come up and
it's gonna start right off the back and let you
get him in the first fifteen.
Speaker 7 (01:13:41):
Pis Hey, you know what would And I love your passion.
I do, and everybody has a I mean, I think
there's a lot of people that are going to echo
your sentiments. As far as white trade out, why not
draft a guy? They've been pretty successful draft wise, But
if you look over the course of time at receivers,
you're gonna see that a lot of guys not drafted
in the first round are better than the ones that were.
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I mean, I can roll through a bunch of them
right now. We could, we could go we could go
through a lot of players. Was Nicula first round pick,
Cooper Cup, DeVante Adams, Stefan Diggs was here first second rounder.
I'm trying to remember. I mean, you could wait, we
can go through I get your point. But in true
now there's some first rounders of the Jeffersons and the
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Jamar Chases. There wasn't that guy available in this draft.
But but I get what you're saying. But you be
shocked if you really, if you look deep, how many
non first round wide receivers are impactful and quickly. So
that part I get, and I understand you want. I mean,
I think we're gonna have to deal with Well, what
if Simmons turns in to be a player in Kansas City.
You deal with it. But we can only trust their
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due diligence because that offensive line was horrific last year.
They were They were a detriment to the team. To me,
in any movement in all is an upgrade. And I
would have traded Tunsel too. I would have done the
same thing.
Speaker 14 (01:15:00):
I rid of Talent for because he was the one man.
Speaker 12 (01:15:02):
He was on alan Byo himself not a part of
the team on the offensive line. So you want that
offensive line to be a unit together, I understand that concept.
You had to get rid of him so you could
piece the unit together. But at the same time, the
pieces that were putting together, there are better pieces we
could have gotten.
Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
Three.
Speaker 7 (01:15:20):
AGED appreciate Carlwood. Thanks Wood, I mean, I love his passion.
But when I asked that I want to I would
like to know and not with Wood. Wood's a regular
call and I love he does. He gives us great
passion when he calls in. But just my question to that,
if I was just kind of asking questions on both sides,
would be the guys they did draft. How often did
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you watch and player? I think, and I'm not saying Wood,
I'm saying overall all of us name recognition, Trump's film study.
When it comes to fans from a distance, because we'reund
the bulding where i' watched twenty five hours of tape
on the Iowa state Wide receiver on a you know,
on ursery, you've heard and seen. But they're doing due diligence.
So if we don't know enough about the guys, if
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you're a fan and don't know enough about the guys
they drafted just because of guy's a name, there's a
lot of guys that you wouldn't know that were drafted
ahead of names in this draft regularly.
Speaker 6 (01:16:14):
And by the way, to the first round pick last
year was part of the deal to trade up to
get Will Anderson Junior with Arizona. So Arizona had your
pick last year and you traded away a second for Digs.
But to your point too about Nikua.
Speaker 7 (01:16:27):
Yeah, it wasn't a first round pick for Digs, if
that's what you're.
Speaker 6 (01:16:29):
Saying, right, Yeah, yeah, it was a fifth round for Nikua,
third round for Cup, second round for Adams, fifth first
of Von Diggs.
Speaker 7 (01:16:37):
AA. I didn't think it was. Yeah. I actually thought
he was a second or third round pick. There you go,
there's four players right there, Nico Collins. What aron was?
He drafted in the third round? Happens all the time.
It happens all the time. Matter of fact, in the
past years, the first your number one receiver a lot
of times because the pressure because they can't get off
press coverage as well in college. It's different coverage that
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that come in. Young receivers in the past have struggled
on the perimeter because they can't get off press coverage.
And these guys are fit. You know, you got six three,
two hundred pounds mauling you. It's a different ballgame than
when they're playing off coverage in college. And you go, so,
I get Wood's passion, But once again, grade's coming out
of this draft mean nothing to me. The grade means
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something to me. At the end of the fall or
even I get the passion wanting not to give them away,
but I always judge it after I see it.
Speaker 6 (01:17:28):
Not that before or even two years from now. I mean,
that's that's when I think you can absolutely say, all right, hey,
three years will usually be the full judge. Right, Yeah,
there you go, so yeah, not immediately after, but I
mean we all fall for him. Oh, Texan's got a
B plus awesome, Dennis Brandon, see you guys right there,
don't forget about fifteen minutes from now, Steve Sparks joins
us for his weekly visit. We'll continue here Sean Salisbury Show.
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The Sewn Salisbury Show continued. Brandon, Good morning, Brandon, Good.
Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
Morning, Dan, Good morning Sean.
Speaker 6 (01:18:03):
How are you good?
Speaker 7 (01:18:04):
How are you man?
Speaker 3 (01:18:06):
Okay, I'm blaying my game?
Speaker 7 (01:18:08):
Okay, how's it going good?
Speaker 3 (01:18:11):
I'm gonna win this game? Sweet?
Speaker 7 (01:18:13):
That's that's a good way to start the week. What
you got on these astros?
Speaker 11 (01:18:18):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (01:18:18):
What do you want?
Speaker 7 (01:18:19):
That's it? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (01:18:20):
How about Jordon at a home on? Yes, it wasn't
a cheap e either, Brandon, Yeah, for sure. How do
you think how you feeling about him going against the Tigers?
Speaker 9 (01:18:34):
Hey, a j Hans is in our park and we
can beat him.
Speaker 8 (01:18:38):
There you go.
Speaker 12 (01:18:38):
I like.
Speaker 7 (01:18:39):
I like the way you're thinking there, Brandon.
Speaker 6 (01:18:41):
Hopefully the Astros can get this homestand started off on
the right foot. Got Jack Flaherty tonight though he's he's
been pretty tough.
Speaker 3 (01:18:50):
Yeah, there we go.
Speaker 2 (01:18:51):
We can get him out of here quickly.
Speaker 7 (01:18:53):
There you go.
Speaker 6 (01:18:54):
Well, like I said earlier about Jordon, usually these things
come in bunches with him. So hopefully he's starting to
get into a little bit of a groove here. All right, buddy, Okay, Brandon,
we'll talk to you later.
Speaker 2 (01:19:08):
Bud'll get him pitching.
Speaker 6 (01:19:13):
Uh tonight, I think it's is it Blanco tonight? Let
me look this up. Uh, but uh, it's Jack Flerty
though for the Tigers. Do know that for sure?
Speaker 2 (01:19:23):
Yeah, it's Bronco.
Speaker 6 (01:19:26):
Yeah it's yeah, it's renewe Blanco against Jack Flherty. So
it'll be a good one.
Speaker 2 (01:19:32):
Hey, we can get this one with Bronco.
Speaker 7 (01:19:34):
I like it. Yep, no doubt about it, No doubt
about it. We'll talk to you later, I Brandon a.
Speaker 11 (01:19:41):
Man.
Speaker 6 (01:19:43):
So yeah, the Astros with Tigers coming in, that's gonna
be a good series. We'll obviously talk about that with
Steve Sparks, but uh, you know it's gonna be funny too.
I know that people are going to say, oh, revenge
for last year. It's an early season series against this team,
and well there's diferent players on both sides, so I
don't really think that that necessarily comes into play, but.
Speaker 7 (01:20:04):
I would agree for sure.
Speaker 6 (01:20:06):
All right, Dennis wants the way in here before we
get Sparky and Dennis, what's going on?
Speaker 15 (01:20:13):
Happy Monday morning? Fellas make a comment on the Shador
Sanders Shdor Sanders draft, and I, you know, I fell
sorry for the kids sliding it down like that, but
the league made a statement. The statement was, no one
player is bigger than the shield and their stating event
and the interview process. What you can do off the
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field leadership is all.
Speaker 16 (01:20:36):
Just as important as what you do on the field.
What perplexed me the most is seeing like mel Kiper
and these guys analysts are saying, disgusting the NFL was
for letting this guy slide. It's your interview process is
just as important as what you do on the field.
And give to the tons of money to a guy
who acts like a jackass. And interviews poorly and eat
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guys terribly. So I felt bad for him his hid time.
He kind of got what he deserved, and I think
he even admitted he said he handled the draft process
man Sean. I also wanted to get thought of Sam Hall,
the Mikings traded for him in mid round.
Speaker 7 (01:21:14):
I'll hang up a listen, see you guys. I appreciate Dennis.
Your ears were not deceiving you. It was to save me.
That was two different dudes talking at two different times.
Speaker 6 (01:21:23):
I thought like, maybe it was like dateline right there
when we actually got Dennis's real voice, of like voice distortion.
Speaker 7 (01:21:30):
But no, we we finally got the real Dnis. I
thought was our caller playing a cut from somebody.
Speaker 6 (01:21:37):
I was wondering too, like I was like, is this
gonna be a prank? Do I need to be on guard?
Do I need to just dump and then just keep
it moving? But no, that was that was our phone system.
Speaker 7 (01:21:46):
I think Sam Howe real quick gives you a veteran
that's young, it's got some experience. I can tell you this.
I've talked to his many at times. I've had conversations
with his former offensive coordinator at North Carolina many a
time about what kind of player he is, and I'm
telling you he loves him. He can throw it, he's tough,
he's accurate. He gives you so, he gives you some.
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He's got some invaluable experience as a starter. And you know, Washington,
you know he's had to make the decision to move
on from him a couple of years ago because of
Jade and Daniels right whenever it was. But Sam Howe
gives you experience at a lesser price. Who was a
guy if you remember the year Spencer Rattler and him came,
We're supposed to go and they were both supposed to
be first round picks. They both fell in the draft.
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But Sam's tough and and high football IQ and that
shows a guy who's been sitting in who sat in
a room with him on a regular base. I love
the choice for the Vikings. Now think about this. They
let Darnold go, they brought in Sam Howe, and they
didn't they didn't, you know, invite Aaron Rodgers into the
building that.
Speaker 8 (01:22:51):
Out of time.
Speaker 7 (01:22:51):
Sound like the doors closed on that though. That's what's that.
It doesn't sound like the door's closed in Minnesota. Yeah,
I disagree. I I they. I'm just telling you they
love Love McCarthy, absolutely love JJ McCarthy. If they didn't,
Sam Darnold would still be a Viking. And they love
a guy who hadn't taken a stap in an NFL uniform.
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And now, well that I'll put it this way, you
tell me you wouldn't be shocked after what they did
with Sam. Hellf Aaron Rodgers is still there. I don't
know if he upgrades the building right now, considering you're
not sure if he's committed. I don't know how all
in Aaron Rodgers is on football, do you that's fair question?
He's all in.
Speaker 12 (01:23:32):
Right now?
Speaker 7 (01:23:32):
If he's still contemplating it. Are you getting all of
Aaron Rodgers' best today? I don't think so. Now it
may still because I know how good the guy is,
But I can't roll into a season with the guy's
eighty percent committed at that position. It's not good enough.
And at his age, he's not good enough to only
be eighty percent in. I'm just telling you he's not.
And I think the Vikings have spoken a low you
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hadn't got to get. What are you gonna do? Add
another one to the building, McCarthy is your starting quarterback
when you open this season, and Aaron Rodgers are not.
I'm just telling they love it would be. They would
have had to take a major fall from their belief
in JJ McCarthy in shorts and a T shirt this
offseason to go get Rogers now if you got him
at a cheap price and say, well, JJ can wade.
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He's under our umbrella for another four years. Okay, I
get it, but I think it's illogical for us to
think now with how they're Sam how is an underrated player.
He may not be able to sustain being a top
end starter for you, but I can win a bunch
of games with him like you could with Teddy Bridgewater,
like you could with Josh McCown. And he's a younger
version of those guys now at their stage of their
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career when they were hit their best rolling on and
Sam Howe gives you some game, I'm just telling you,
and he'll be a great teammate in the building. Not
the ego that gets in the way I should be starting.
He knows McCarthy's a starter, but it's not going to
stop him from competing, and that's important. So I like
that as far as Sanders goes. Yeah, the prank on
sur Sanders was Bush League. I don't care by the
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twenty one year old son and Jeff Olberg. We'll get
to that, but complete Bush and that's a fact. But
the other side of it is all the other stuff
that goes with it. He's the lead on Sports Center
this morning and get her on their shows this morning.
Yeah you see, so I listen cam Ward, I can't.
We've talked less about him than we have anybody. I've
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never seen a top pick in the draft talked less about.
And he's better than Shador Sanders. Yeah, he just is.
He's a better player at least going in. Who knows
what the team you're on, but he's a better player
at this stage.
Speaker 6 (01:25:27):
Well, not much talk for sure, but we will get
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Steve Sparks for his weekly eight o'clock visit every Monday,
joins us now after three in Kansas City. Steve, I'll
tell you what pitching on both sides. I know that
the Astros got to him yesterday. But man, live if
you if you if I told you that the pitching
was going to do what they did over the weekend,
you wouldn't have said one and two correct?
Speaker 11 (01:26:39):
Correct?
Speaker 10 (01:26:40):
No, But I think that the pitching for the Astros
is going to keep him in most games all year long.
Speaker 11 (01:26:45):
They've been that good. I mean, they're as good as anybody.
Speaker 7 (01:26:49):
Yeah, Steve, I expect the one two guy. Steve, I'm
trying to go over my mind. You know, you think
about the one and two, especially lefty righty in a
lineup fromber and Hunter Brown. I'm not sure in a rotation.
Put it this way, if they're not one or two,
they're in the team picture when it comes to the
best one to two front line guys. When we see
what we did, Hunter Brown's been like that all year.
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From were a little up and down, but we know
when his stuff's good. I mean, we had John Smoltz
on here raving about him. He said, I love him,
he said, but I may even love Hunter Brown a
little more. They're at the top of the league. When
it comes to one two punches in baseball.
Speaker 11 (01:27:22):
I agree, And you know, Hunter Brown might be picture
of the Month.
Speaker 7 (01:27:24):
I agreed.
Speaker 10 (01:27:25):
His stats stuck up with anybody in the league right now.
And he's been doing this for a while now. It's
been since May first of last year. He's got the
best era in the American League.
Speaker 11 (01:27:36):
So it's not a flash of the pan, and we
can all watch and just understand that the confidence is
through the roof.
Speaker 8 (01:27:42):
Now.
Speaker 11 (01:27:43):
He's kind of a bully with his fastball and I
love it.
Speaker 12 (01:27:46):
You know.
Speaker 10 (01:27:46):
It reminds me of JD and his Aday, just going
at guys and just daring them to try to make
contact with either one of his fastballs, the two seamer.
Speaker 11 (01:27:54):
Or the four seeder. But one of the hardest throwers
in baseball. You love you everything about what he brings.
Speaker 18 (01:28:01):
And I say this all the time fromber If he's right,
he can tell you he's got, he's got three pitches
that he could tell the hitter what's coming, and they
still not make very good contact at all.
Speaker 11 (01:28:14):
They might just hit a hit a ground ball and
get you.
Speaker 10 (01:28:17):
A double play, and he could tell you what's coming
because of the late turbulent action on all of his pitches.
Speaker 7 (01:28:23):
Steve last year at this very time Hunter Brown struggling early,
and you'd come on here and we asked about it,
because there was that time we missed a start, and
there was there was even the tackles he going to
get sent down to get right. And I remember you
saying on this and said, what is the mechanics? And
you said, it may be just as simple as taking
the inner part of the plate, challenging people inside. And
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it's almost like, I'm not whether he listened to you,
but he should, I mean, but it's almost like that
that that mandate to himself or from somebody who was like,
all right, I'm gonna do this, and his whole game
turned around. His whole game has turned around since, and
now we got him as one of the elite pitchers
and base ball. Is it just as simple as that,
Steve to turn it around?
Speaker 11 (01:29:05):
It is it really is. But I mean, there's a
couple of things. I don't know if you remember this too.
Speaker 10 (01:29:10):
But Verlander said, hey, man, go back to sugar Land
a couple of years ago, find your best two games,
and let me look at it and see if there's
anything different.
Speaker 11 (01:29:18):
And he found something. Did I tell you this?
Speaker 10 (01:29:20):
No?
Speaker 11 (01:29:22):
Okay, So he said, you used to. He watched the film.
Speaker 10 (01:29:26):
He said, hey man, you used to kind of drift
toward the right handed batter, step toward him and then crossfire.
He said, all your pitches looked like they were a
little bit more lively back then. Why don't you Why
don't you just kind of inch over just a little
bit to see what it feels like.
Speaker 11 (01:29:41):
And he did, and he's kind of inched a couple more.
Speaker 7 (01:29:44):
You're talking, right, Yeah, maybe you did tell us this.
You're talking about words on the stride, gotcha? Okay? Yeah.
Speaker 10 (01:29:51):
So he's going across his body now, so he's not
stepping straight toward home plate. He steps across his body
and it keeps him clothes longer, and it's fill. It
makes that two seamer right and a little tighter. But
everything else just explodes out of his hand. And a
lot of credit to him.
Speaker 11 (01:30:07):
You know.
Speaker 10 (01:30:08):
I read an article not too long ago talking about
his off season program and how much more flexible he is.
And I ran into him during batting practice the other
day at Dyking Park and I said, hey, man, you
can do a back back bend. He goes, you want
to see it?
Speaker 9 (01:30:22):
I said, yeah, So.
Speaker 11 (01:30:23):
Behind the dugout, you know, we're in this little tunnel area.
He gets on his back and just forms a perfect
backward c and he's flexible, like you cannot pin him.
Speaker 10 (01:30:33):
If you're trying to wrestle him and trying to pin him,
he's going to get off of his shoulders because he
can bend out of that position. So he's done a
lot of work, you know, and he's flexible. He bounces
back start to start. I'm not sure if I've seen
anybody this year being able to bounce back and have
his A plus stuff every outing. That's really hard to do,
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by the way, and he's a different guy. I hope
he's a picture of the month.
Speaker 11 (01:30:59):
He deserves it. And he's starting to get a lot
of note rit And you hear.
Speaker 10 (01:31:03):
Other managers talk about Hunter Brown, and most of these
guys are saying that's the best arm we've seen this year.
Speaker 7 (01:31:09):
Yeah, he's pretty filthy Steven, It's obvious. And now he's
into that mode where the confidence I feel like he
goes out there is thinking, I'm giving you six no
matter what, You're not gonna be able to touch me. Yeah,
Steve with the meddal with him last year, you know,
Christian Walker. We see this all the time. People go
through struggles, new team, it happens, and then they alive
whatever it is. For the reasons, Well, the chicken or
the egg thing? Does physical effect mental more? Or does
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a mental lapse? I almost feel like the mental lasts longer,
but that the physical is why the medal gets adjusted.
You get what I was like a Christian Walker's case.
You grind more on the middle than the physical or
is it opposite, Steve? What comes first?
Speaker 11 (01:31:49):
Well, I kind of go back to the part like
which comes first? Success or confidence?
Speaker 7 (01:31:55):
Right?
Speaker 10 (01:31:56):
And for me, and I'm sure you've dealt with this
throughout your career, I think you have to have confidence
in what you do to prepare.
Speaker 7 (01:32:04):
And before you even present it, right, Steve.
Speaker 10 (01:32:08):
Right, if you practice right and you believe in your
preparation and it's worked in the past.
Speaker 11 (01:32:13):
Just stick with it.
Speaker 10 (01:32:14):
That's what's going to win out over the long term.
You know, things are going to creep in your mind
when you're at the plate or if you're pitching or whatever.
But you've got to learn there's little ways. This is
what happened in my career. I think it was probably
my fifteenth or sixteenth year as a professional baseball player,
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and I remember pitching at Fenway and I remember just
about to release the ball, and I remember something popping
into my head, and it was I wonder if my
family made it to the ballpark yet. I threw the ball,
and I remember afterwards just going how in the world
did that pop in my head? With thirty two thousand
people screaming right, So all it is is an illustration
(01:32:57):
of how crazy it weird your mind and what can
happen if you're not locked in and in taking care
of that.
Speaker 11 (01:33:04):
And this is what I learned.
Speaker 10 (01:33:06):
Maddox did it, A lot of great players did it.
They had a pre pitch routine. But part of the
pre pitch routine involved repeating something which is a mantra,
which is one two three words. For me, it was
I developed hit the glove. So once I got my sign,
I took a big, deep breath. I would come set.
Then I would repeat, hit the glove, hit the glove,
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hit the glove, hit the glove. By the time I
released the ball, nothing else could pop in my mind, right,
not the not the base runner, not the hitter. What
was simply my tax was to hit the glove. And
that's all that was going to pop into my mind
at that point. It changed a lot of things for me.
Speaker 7 (01:33:44):
Yeah, and Steve, that'll sustain when you have that mentality
you're talking about and you're exactly right applied to football
mental grind, Yes, that because you know, you throw a
game where you'd like throw a couple picks, right, and
nothing's different your mechanics. You just maybe made a bad read,
made it, and then all of a sudden you get
into your own head on the sideline saying, well that's two.
Then you start to grip the ball, and then maybe
was it a mechanical thing, and you start to change
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stuff that you're chasing a ghost and borrowing trouble that
doesn't exist when really in your mind saying that's not
who I am. It's a couple of bad pitches. These
guys are getting paid too. Let me go back to
like my golf pre shot routine, and here's how I
line it up, and if somebody coughs in the background,
I back away and get up and go through my
routine again. And the part of it of training the
mind mentally to do it isn't that, Steve, I've always
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believed that that's harder to do than the physical side
I do.
Speaker 11 (01:34:32):
Well.
Speaker 10 (01:34:33):
We always understood that nero logically, that our body didn't
perform at its unless it was very relaxed, and if
we had some kind of doubt in our mind that
it just did something, we tightened up. What it's really
hard to explain that we would tighten up, we would
pucker or whatever it was. We just weren't free and
easy like like we were when we're at our best
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and we're not thinking about anything. You know, people talk
about being in the zone. Michael Jordan wasn't thinking about
it keeping his elbow in when he was when he
was shooting.
Speaker 11 (01:35:03):
The basketball right right.
Speaker 10 (01:35:05):
You just you don't think about mechanics, You don't think
about what might happen or anything like that.
Speaker 14 (01:35:10):
You just it.
Speaker 10 (01:35:11):
It's very simple. You see it and hit it, or
if you're pitching, you see the glove and you hit it.
It's as simple as that, you've done all the prep
work beforehand and all the mechanics stuff beforehand, to go
out there and just let your mind breathe and be yourself.
Speaker 7 (01:35:27):
All right, Steve? You and I are Steve Sparks for
his weekly visit here at eight o'clock on Monday, ASTROS broadcaster.
Steve and I are sitting in the room and we're
watching the tape you know, of the team when you
talk about Verlin Hunter Brown. We're watching it and I say, okay, Steve,
this many games you know into the season, let's watch
this tape I'm talking about at the plate. What will
(01:35:47):
we find watching that tape from the just the offense
in general. If I'm sitting there and you're we're walking
through this and you're walking me through it, what are
you gonna tell me about the offense in general?
Speaker 9 (01:35:57):
Right now?
Speaker 7 (01:35:57):
Good and bad?
Speaker 11 (01:36:03):
I think some.
Speaker 10 (01:36:04):
Guys try to get outside of themselves and try to
hit home runs and try to pull the ball when
they don't need to. Yin Er obviously hits a ball
like a left handed pull hitter the other way, and
we saw that at Kaufman stadium.
Speaker 11 (01:36:16):
Yesterday, which is very hard to go the other way.
Speaker 10 (01:36:18):
It's a tough ballpark, so he could probably just take
something from that, just like okay, and it's previous to it.
Bats kind of led to that. We were even talking
like Man. His last two swings before that home run,
he looked like himself. You know, he stayed closed and
drove the ball to center field, flew out twice, but
he didn't let it discourage him from that approach and
(01:36:40):
he was rewarded for it next that last at bats.
So you're hoping he can build off that. Jordan's double
on homer. We're both around one hundred and ten miles
per hour yesterday, and that gives you hope that that
he can get it going. Remember last May, he had
a tough stretch last May where he had a couple
of homers and just four RBI. So he'll go through
little stretches like that and he'll carry you for three months.
(01:37:01):
So you're just not worried about a few of these guys.
And I think with Kristin Walker too, I mean, he's
averaged thirty homers and right around ninety ninety five RBIs
the last three years. I trust that When I watch
him swing in batting practice, there's no lack of bat
speed or the swing looks good to me. I just
think it's going to take a little time for him
(01:37:23):
just to get confident and comfortable in what he's doing
with a new team for the first time.
Speaker 7 (01:37:27):
Do you think do you think he feels any pressure? Steve?
With that, I know it seems like an elementary question. Yeah,
that he's new here and they've had struggles at this position,
and he knew coming in that since YULEI we haven't
had solidified first basement. You recognize that as a player,
don't you, Steve, Yes, you.
Speaker 10 (01:37:43):
Do, you know, And it's just probably swinging it pitches
he typically does not, you know, and he's getting pitched
very tough.
Speaker 14 (01:37:52):
You know.
Speaker 10 (01:37:53):
Sometimes you go through stretches where guys make mistakes and
sometimes they don't. And right now, I mean they're on.
Speaker 11 (01:38:00):
The edges of the time.
Speaker 10 (01:38:01):
I watched it pretty closely, and the pitches that when
he last last homestanding, you could start to see that
he was starting to get.
Speaker 11 (01:38:09):
It going a little bit.
Speaker 10 (01:38:10):
Yeah, then he got painted. He got painted in Kansas City.
Man Lugo and Waka those are veteran pitchers that just
absolutely painted him. And uh, you know that happened sometimes
and it might put you in another slump for a
little bit.
Speaker 7 (01:38:21):
So so those guys were pretty good on Friday and Saturday.
I mean they were pretty good a weekend, weren't they, Steve, Yeah.
Speaker 11 (01:38:27):
They really were, you know.
Speaker 10 (01:38:29):
And there's one there's one more thing I want to
talk about. It's Jeremy Payne. And you go to a
baseball game. I'm telling you, Sean, if you if you
take your kid to a game, you want them to
watch Jeremy Payne.
Speaker 11 (01:38:40):
And it reminds me.
Speaker 10 (01:38:41):
Of what a reporter asked George Brett, former Kansas City
Royal Hall of Famer, was asked about a month before
he retired, and a writer said, hey, man, have you
thought about your last at bat? You know, in this
great career? Do you want to hit a home run?
Speaker 11 (01:38:55):
If you have, you started to think about how about
a double? Since you hit all those doubles? He goes, No,
that's a good question.
Speaker 10 (01:39:02):
And I have thought about it, but no, I don't
want to hit a homer and I don't want to
hit a double. That this is what I want to do.
I want to hit a two hopper to the second baseman.
I want to run as fast as I can to
first base to show every guy on my team how
to play this game. That's that's the legacy I.
Speaker 6 (01:39:19):
Want to.
Speaker 7 (01:39:21):
From first to last bat. That was George Bread.
Speaker 11 (01:39:24):
That's exactly what he did to either too harper or
ran as fast as he could. And that is exactly.
Speaker 7 (01:39:32):
Right.
Speaker 11 (01:39:32):
But this is what Payina does every His dad, who
had a seven year major league career, taught him the
right way. Man. This guy plays hard.
Speaker 10 (01:39:41):
And if I was if I was a dad and
I took a kid to the game, I'd have him
watched Jeremy every every ab kind.
Speaker 7 (01:39:46):
Of like we did Pete Rose growing up. Right, Steve,
I watch the way this guy read that. That that's
how you're supposed to play it.
Speaker 11 (01:39:51):
Right, Yeah, that's exactly right, Steve.
Speaker 10 (01:39:54):
And he's going to play for a long time and
he's gonna he's gonna avoid extended slumps because he already
has five nfield hits this year, led the league with thirty.
Speaker 11 (01:40:03):
One of them last year. It's because of that consistent hustle.
Speaker 7 (01:40:06):
I love it. I love the way he plays. I'll
finish with this, Steve, is are they closer, Steve, you
mentioned you felt Walker's getting closer as an overall hole.
Is there a major gap between they're close and they're not.
I mean, as that gap distant or have they closed
the gap and they're Oh, they're really close to busting
out on a ten, twelve to fifteen game type streak
with the offensive guys.
Speaker 11 (01:40:28):
It's hard for me to predict. To be honest with you,
I would love to.
Speaker 7 (01:40:30):
Get the hints that you're seeing. I guess is what
I'm saying. Maybe that's the way I should ask it.
Are you seeing hints that say recovery and get back
to driving runs and driving the baseball.
Speaker 11 (01:40:40):
It was just one day.
Speaker 10 (01:40:42):
The very encouraged with what you saw from both the
Ironer and Jordan, So you get encouraged about that. You
give out two a and off day. He usually comes
back with a vengeance after those. So playing a very
tough team in Detroit. They're eighteen and ten with the
best record in the league, So, uh, you got to
get after it. Jack Flahert, he's been good, Besos Blanco.
(01:41:04):
Blanco pitched great his last game against Toronto, so it's
going to be a good series. I think the Astros
fans is be well served to get out to the
dyke and watch these games, because I think it's two
of the best teams in the American League squaring off.
Speaker 7 (01:41:18):
Steve. Great stuff, and I guarantee you you'll never hear
another story about a player, maybe until Payne your retires.
That's lasted.
Speaker 12 (01:41:25):
Bat.
Speaker 7 (01:41:26):
He wanted to hit a two hop for the second
base and run hard and hopefully beat it out. That's
the first and last time we may hear that story.
Most of us, you know, want to hit an upper
tanker and then walk off on a walk off of
say I'm done right, yeah, but I don't even remember
if my last pass was a completion or a pick
or a touchdown. But I know this. George Brett did
exactly what he wanted to do, and that's pretty cool.
(01:41:47):
Great story, Great stuff, Steve, and we'll look forward to
not only this home standing here in your calls, but
also next week on Monday, and hopefully a lot more
offense next time we talk. We appreciate you, brother, Thank you.
Speaker 11 (01:41:58):
You guys, thank you for having me.
Speaker 7 (01:41:59):
That's right, great Steve sparks no shock with but that's
why Brett played this way. Payin you plays. I didn't
realize he led the league with those thirty plus infield hits.
That's impressive, man.
Speaker 6 (01:42:08):
He should probably be remembered for those stories as opposed
to the other stories about George Brett.
Speaker 7 (01:42:12):
Well, he used to come to Julie's, which is a
bar and restaurant right by Camp was a game, pregame,
post game place that everybody went by the coliseum. George
was a and the old Bradovitch. I don't know if
you remember. The old Bradovich family owned Julie's was theirs
and the beach volleyball player Obradovich usc guy dad played
pro football. But they didn't get cheated out of their fun.
(01:42:34):
But it didn't affect George Brett's batt I can tell
you that did not. Old timer.
Speaker 6 (01:42:39):
Well the best, yep, well, one of the best stories
by Steve, Absolutely absolutely great stuff from him. Well, continue
with the Astros conversation here as the show goes along.
Also see Andy, you want to get in on the draft,
We'll do that. And also yes, get to that Jeff
Oldbricks story. All that's still on the table here. Sean
Salisbury Show.
Speaker 1 (01:42:58):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show. Sure, Sean really We're
find Sports Talk seven.
Speaker 7 (01:43:08):
Andy. Good morning Andy. How you doing all right? Hey?
Speaker 14 (01:43:12):
Sam?
Speaker 8 (01:43:13):
Dante my sleeper Dante Thornton early fourth round to the Raiders.
Speaker 7 (01:43:18):
Uh, well the Raiders were loading up. Yes they are
they they. I thought they had a good draft and
made a lot of you know, they moved around a
lot to get what they wanted to get. Value wise,
Pete Carroll did a nice job.
Speaker 8 (01:43:32):
I would put money on them making a playoffs next
year as a wild card. You know, Sean, I want
to get a nick credit, but I gotta be honest.
The same head coach that that somehow worked the elephitsive
(01:43:52):
line to be above average in twenty three was the
same cut with all those damn injuries. I mean, hey,
dirt stringers played multiple stretches in that year, and even
a rookie which is which basically was like their fourth center,
wound up playing. Uh, and that that offensive line was
(01:44:15):
way better than last year's offensive line. And they didn't
have many injuries last year.
Speaker 3 (01:44:19):
I mean they had.
Speaker 8 (01:44:20):
It was a ministruol compared to twenty three, but it
was the same offensive line coach. So you know, although
I called Friday and said yeah, because they didn't go
heavy in the first round with offensive line. You think, well, yeah,
probably the offense line was toxic. And I got to
(01:44:42):
thinking of the weekend. But that was the same coach
they had in twenty three. They got so much out
of so little.
Speaker 12 (01:44:50):
I just.
Speaker 8 (01:44:51):
It's it's just waiting to see.
Speaker 7 (01:44:53):
So what So what are you bothered by? I mean
from twenty to what do you bother? But that the same?
I mean the staff what, what's what? What's what's bothering
you about it?
Speaker 8 (01:45:02):
Well, because I want to say, we must know that
it was toxic because they didn't really go heavy all
of this line and the guys that they got in
the off season. Let's face it, Uh, one of ingram
lost his job in the middle of the year, Robinson
Jacksonville didn't want him, and then Minnesota got him, and
(01:45:22):
he didn't play all that well for Minnesota, and you know,
and and and then and then Seattle. Did I think
Thomason came from Seattle? Right, These are guys that nobody
else wanted. And then Trent Brown. You know, he's he's
a decent backup, uh swing tackle, but that's all he is.
(01:45:43):
I just I don't know, Well, it's a wait and see.
I hope, I hope they can get you know, get
out of what they think they can get out of
these guys.
Speaker 7 (01:45:55):
That's why post drafts, Yeah, how they fit in after
the draft is how I like to look at it,
because now, you're exactly right, all that draft hype and
all that stuff, Now we get down to Okay, come
to ots, what kind of player are you?
Speaker 11 (01:46:06):
Now?
Speaker 7 (01:46:06):
We got to see it. So it's all a guess
right now. Because there's a first rounder that's going to
be a bust somewhere in this league, and there's a
third round that it's going to be a starter from
day one on teams, and hopefully here that's the case
with a couple of these guys. But you're exactly right,
it is a wait and see. All the hype that's
done now it's down due to signing contracts and playing football,
and that's a different that's a different part of it.
(01:46:27):
That the post stuff's tougher than the pre stuff, I
assure you, meaning getting there and proving it on Sundays
is a lot different than proving it on Saturday and
then waiting from January to now to get drafted. All
the hype that goes with it. Now it's down to
nobody cares about what we're around. You're drafted and what
kind of football player are you? Now we're going to
see it. I gotta be honest, I kind of lost
track of where he was going. Well, that's why I
(01:46:51):
think his focus is not knowing if the bodies they
drafted are But I think that's everybody's asking that Sharston
today right now, some with a couple of multiple first rounds,
like the Giants, people are excited with Dart and Abdul Carter.
I get it, but but I understand because when the
when the when the hype of the first rounds taken
out of you trade out of it. Now we're like, okay,
(01:47:12):
should we have? Should we have? And Andy pays really
close attention to the draft and people and looking for
that hidden gem. I think that's what it goes to,
not that one guy who flashes. I think he's looking
for Will these guys be that those gems that you're
trying to find, like the thwart and that Pete got
the fourth. I think that's where it's headed.
Speaker 6 (01:47:31):
I got you, I got you, okay, I mean, look,
you can draft five offensive linemen. It doesn't mean you're
going to have a great offensive line despite what you get.
And here's concerned real quick, Dan was I think with
the veterans they brought in m if they weren't coveted
by others, why were they covered? He just took my point.
I mean it, Bingo, because you don't give up good
offensive linemen. That's the whole point. You have a really
(01:47:54):
good one, you sign them long term, and you continue
to sign them as long as they continue to play
well like that's that's how you those guys.
Speaker 7 (01:48:00):
You hope that they fit here. That's what you get.
I think the off season gets. I'm not talking about
the draft. The off season gets are short term. I do.
I think the basis of this. Maybe they're even their
best players in next year's who knows. But what I'm
saying is I think those were a fix to get
these things going to short up now one year, fixed
(01:48:22):
Cam Robinson and then break some people in here that
as they learn and play that you can get it.
I don't think they thought they went out and got
a devastating, dominant offseason guy who's going to the Pro Bowl.
I think they feel like they got more that hopefully
a couple of them can answer one call, right, And
I think that's why they're going about I don't think
(01:48:43):
by any stretch, these guys who scout people all the
time are sitting here saying we found ourselves three Pro
bowlers this offseason.
Speaker 6 (01:48:49):
I don't think they're thinking that, Yeah, I got you.
I think it's a group thing. I feeling on that
I got you. All right, coming up a little bit
of Rockets talk because something that me and Sean talked
about off the air, well, let's just say that somebody
could be running interference for the Rockets and that could
be a good thing. We'll talk about it here Sean
Salisbury show.
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The Sean Salisbury Show continued here.
Speaker 6 (01:51:04):
Me and you were just talking off air about the
Lakers Timberwolves series, then the Lakers on the brink of elimination.
I threw this out yesterday on social media that sure
as you're born, they are going to send it in
the extender for that series. The extender is Scott Foster.
They are going to Tony Brothers and Scott Foster that series.
(01:51:27):
So quickly are they doing it. I haven't seen what
the assignments are for tomorrow, but I do know who
the assignment is tonight for the Rockets. John Goebel, the
guy that e MA told go get some blinking glasses
out there in Sacramento. Bill Kennedy, Pat Frere, and Trey
Maddox are the officials tonight, so we avoid the extender
(01:51:47):
or in this case, if Golden State wins tonight, this
series is pretty much all but over. So the Rockets
have to win this game tonight to have any remote chance,
and if they do win, then home court advantage comes
back to them.
Speaker 7 (01:51:58):
Yeah, we set it after Game one. They needed a
must and they got it, and they got a great
performance offensively. Again in free throws, will they shoot where
they shoot? This is like sixty percent little less fourteen
twenty four, I think that fifty eight, and they got
beat and they scored in the nineties. Has anybody see
what one time somebody's broke one hundred in the series? Yeah,
(01:52:19):
I think it was the right time. Yeah, one time
other than the Warriors the other night. But yeah. That
My point is that the losing team has been it's
that trouble, trouble offensively, and it's I mean in both
losses for the for the Rockets, similar similar stuff, not
shooting as well as they need to and missing free
throws both of them. And this is the team that's
(01:52:41):
a veteran that they're they'll they're able to overcome some
flaws because of how many times they've seen this postseason.
I don't think the series is over by any stretch.
But you're right, you get down three to one, now
you got a problem because we know if you got
down two, oh, you man likely may not have come
back here. But they were able to get that one
here and then headed there. This is a This is
(01:53:02):
a huge, huge game. I mean it's to me, even
though it's not an elimination game, the Lakers game is
the next time they tee it up. Both of them
are very similar because even though the difference is Golden
State's KG min this before Ken Minnesota Minnesota, right, yeah,
Minnesota with the Lakers. Yeah, use in my mind here
(01:53:22):
Kim Ken Minnesota at three to one, Ken, they who
have not trapes t your very much and a bunch
of guys, well Lebron who has does this does this
is the aura of the Lakers even bothering them. They're
playing like it doesn't. Golden State presents that the overall
team with the Houston Rockets is better if you don't
make free throws and you're sent to the line that
(01:53:43):
many times you're gonna get beat, specially in their building.
Speaker 6 (01:53:45):
I believe that you can beat Golden State two out
of three times. I do not believe you can beat
them three straight times. So you lose this game tonight
that second scenario comes up.
Speaker 7 (01:53:53):
I don't think they have. I don't think they have.
I guess it's since it's not mathematically mathematically eliminated, you
put it there. I'd give the Lakers a better chance
of overcoming their series down three to one than I
would the Rockets down three to one, for the obvious
reasons of experience.
Speaker 6 (01:54:08):
For sure, well and also too, I mean the firepower
that the Lakers have offensively as opposed to what you
don't have, and that was on full display on Saturday night.
Speaker 7 (01:54:16):
You get two guys that are scoring at a rapid
could at a high clip, and Luca and Lebron, and
they are both capable of taking a series over I
don't think the Lakers think they're out of it by
any stretch of the imagination, but I wouldn't feel good
about the Rockets chances being on the road and down
three to one for sure. Let's say this is as
must as it gets without being eliminated.
Speaker 6 (01:54:34):
Yeap, now a true a Rod's never spoken Roger on
the northwest side, Good morning, what's going on.
Speaker 14 (01:54:41):
Good fellows? Yeah, I just I just kind of want
to know what the Rockets might be thinking about moving
forward in regards to maybe Jena, Jay and Green. As
far as you know, it's all about progression. You know,
the team is not going to win a championship this year.
We're just cheamed to see how far the progress went.
(01:55:02):
And in the two games where Jillen underperformed, I just
feel like, uh, you know, after after the series is done,
whether we move forward or hopefully we move forward, or
or we don't. I just want to know. I know
we just not just sit it to a contract, but
you know you kind of knows enough to sample size
to see what he's going to do, is what it is?
(01:55:24):
Or do you let your goko uh coaching experience, uh
you know, get him for another year or so to
see if he can actually develop into that guy because
right now he's just too inconsistent and I know he's young,
and I just had you just want to know what
you thought, guys, Sean, Uh yeah, just let you know
what's going on, because I kind of feel like I
(01:55:46):
kind of know what we have, but it's just me.
Speaker 6 (01:55:49):
I'm going, yeah, I appreciate the call, Roger. I mean,
I feel like when it comes to the two guys
that you were up last offseason, Jalen and Alpi, like
Alpi is a little bit closer to being a finished
product than Jay one is. That's why I feel like,
if it came down to, all right, we can only
keep one of the two, I think they keep Jalen. Yes.
Speaker 7 (01:56:08):
The interesting thing about this is this, Jalen Green is
a stud and a star in the making. He's shown
more than flashes of it during the regular season. But
we judge everybody by what they do now, and teams
will judge them by what they do now. And you
saw in Game two what it's like for him. It's
not does he have it? It's can he apply it
(01:56:29):
all the time? And can you make a huge difference
in a game if you're not scoring the way or
shooting the way you want to shoot? I believe that
I compared to a lot of things. Can can you
impact a game if you're a receiver and you're not
catching the ball. If you're a running back and you're
not getting touches, can you still impact the sure you
(01:56:50):
can great protection on your carries, you make them just
your presence alone makes them feel that way the hinds
Wards of the world, who blocked their way is important
to them as catching a pass. It's the same thing here,
the greatest one. And I think Jayleen Green's got every
ounce of ability you need. But the mental grind that
goes with postseason and the pressure there, it exists all
(01:57:13):
the time. You saw in Game two this team, it's
so weird, but it's going to go where this guy
takes him right now, it's proven right in the first
three games in post seen scores they win. It's simple.
And he's had what three post He's played in three
postseason games in his career, So we're not expecting, you know,
the guy to be you know, get him his way
(01:57:33):
to the Hall of Fame this postseason. But it's the
the major That's the way I can describe it. The
extremes both ways, he says, where you take the next
step right and you've got to bring them. You've got
to bring your worst closer to your best and meet
somewhere and that'll be the next step. And it's not
Kenny score in game eight of the regular seats, and
we know that it's the consistency and a lot of
(01:57:54):
it's not the physical that Steve Sparks talked about it.
You think there's any question on the guy's ability and
it's not that he's lazy or any of that stuff.
We got buy in from him here Udoka did it
is can you find a way to impact a game
when you're not scoring? Honestly? Can you impact and dominate
a game when you score? Well, Sean, how's that happen?
I've seen it happen a lot of times. I watch
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Chase and Kid do it regularly. As I use him
as an example because he sticks out I and when
I was in Dallas him getting fifteen assists and fifteen
rebounds in a night when he scores five. That's dominating
the game even without scoring. Because the guys you've got
the ball to did their things. So whatever it is,
it's crazy, but they're gonna It's not like we're talking
about Lebron James. They're going to go where here, Luka Tagan,
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We're talking about a young player who's still in his
empanasy and his third play three of them, where's he
going to take them? And it's a lot of pressure.
But you know what, the great ones aren't running from it.
They're running to it. And I know it sounds cliche,
but they are. And I think he wants that. But
it's just going to be simply for him to be
able to be a consistent dominant player all the time.
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He's seeing what the difference is in intense City in
the postseason, and it's been a little bit dow Jones. Right,
if he goes and plays great in Game three or
Game four, they'll they'll have a chance to win. He's
just got to make sure on his off nights that
he's still impacting the game. And in two games right now,
that hasn't really been the case in two of the
three and the two losses. Better late than never, ya,
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I don't think they had anybody score twenty the other night. No,
they had four or five guys in double figures. Nobody
got twenty points. Now, you can win games like that.
The problem is if you don't, if you're still not
shooting well, or you're shooting fifty eight percent from the
fetal the road shot. That's exactly right.
Speaker 6 (01:59:31):
Yeah, and they didn't do that, especially in the second half,
right fourth quarter in particular, as you heard earlier on
the show, Steve John Tony, see you guys right there,
get you guys involved in the conversation. I do want
to get into the Jeff Ulbrick situation, and we'll do
that here as so we continue to roll along here,
Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 7 (01:59:52):
Let's go.
Speaker 3 (01:59:53):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 6 (01:59:57):
You know, we haven't had a chance to get into
this just yet, but we saw a prank played on
Shadoor Sanders by the son of a current NFL defensive coordinator,
Jeff Ulbrick's son, Jackson, decided that it would be a
good idea to call Shudoor Sanders, or at least his buddy,
did you have Jackson, who's one of the guys in
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the video that surfaced on social media over the weekend,
laughing in the background as his buddy tried to say
that he was Saints GM Mickey Loomis calling Shadoor Sanders
to tell him, hey, we're picking you next right here.
And of course they didn't end up picking him next
because later on Andrew Berry in the Browns would end
up picking him, but of course that got out. I
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saw Will Compton part of the Busting with the Boys podcast.
He was not very amused by it. Seemingly a lot
of former players felt the exact same way of Hey, dude,
this is supposed to be a great moment.
Speaker 7 (02:00:50):
It's not to be joked about.
Speaker 6 (02:00:52):
It's not to you know, have things like that happen,
Like I actually do think about that of if you're
a draft prospect, you probably have to tell your friends
and family do not call me on that day, like
you do not call me because I mean, not only
are you waiting for the call from the teams, but
it's like also too, I mean, you have somebodies who
think they're funnier than they really are, who would try
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to call you and be like, hey, man, just want
to talk to you.
Speaker 7 (02:01:15):
It's like, this is not the time, dude. I had
calls early, and you know when you're expecting calls like
just to but you're watching the same draft iim watching.
I know I haven't been taken yet calling you just wait,
I'll get ahold of you when it happens. Now, his
situation was far different because where he thought he was
going to be drafted and all that. It was bush league.
It's a twenty one year old kid who thought it
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would be funny, and you're messing with somebody's livelihood, especially his. Now,
you didn't realize when you made that call was going
to take till the fifth round. That's not a prank. Listen,
that's not good. It's not wise. I don't care what
anybody says. All it's funny, it's cool. Sanders deserved it
because he's arrogant. No, arrogant or not, that's not for
you to decide.
Speaker 12 (02:01:56):
No.
Speaker 7 (02:01:56):
And the talk that the Falcons put it out that
Jeff Ulbrick that a surface or a computer was open. Yeah,
which happens continually. You're watching your study and tape and
you leave something open, and the numbers there. The fact
that the kid got it and then prank called him
and the Falcons are vehement about it. And I don't
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see Jeff Oulbrick saying, hey, yeah, call him up. I
don't see that happen. And this to me as legit
as it gets about how this would have happened, the
fact that the kid decided to do that, well, I
understand so prank, and he's apologized for it because he
was told to apologize for it. You don't do that, man,
because he's going to look back. And I'm just going
to tell you so far today, I can't imagine this
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not being this week in like the first round, this
Friday and Saturday, or Thursday and Friday not being I
don't know. I'm not judging from it from a distance,
knowing what I went through on mine and his he
fell five rounds where he thought he was going to
be taken. I would imagine to date this has been
the was the worst experience of his life football sportswise. Honestly,
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I can't have fathom it would be any anything else.
Now he was Kudos to him. I love the way
he handled it. He handled like a champ, not going
in with the decorated room, but celebrated a lot of
guys would have pouted fifth round and said, I'm he
celebrated it, and good on him. But I thought it
was bush league by the twenty one year old dude,
Those pranks are not funny. You're talking about somebody's livelihood.
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I guess the only thing worse would be to get
a call a prank call about a family member or
a kid that was in you know, somebody calling saying
that joking that you know, oh your your kids leaving college.
Whatever it is, we like what no, I didn't have,
you don't want to, or or a safety issue. This
when it comes to careers is especially the Shador Sanders things.
That's that's as bad as it gets, you know, for
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somebody to do. I think it's weak, it's tacky, it's
not funny. I didn't I didn't find it one ounce funny.
And you know the guy's going through the emotions of
up and down. Now all the other stuff. Well, why
Schador was drafted later you hear in it views that
he had headset on and was not paying attention, showed
up late. You could see why the fall and you
can see why it would happen. But I thought it
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was bush league and I thought that that kid twenty
one owes more than an apology because it was. It's
not something that anybody should have to go through, especially
when it was miserable for those two days for standards,
and some of it self inflicted.
Speaker 6 (02:04:19):
Yeah, his son has apologized and some of the falcons too,
and they've given an explanation of what happened. And you know,
I've seen a couple of different things from this. So
I've seen one of, well, why why does Jeff Ulbrick,
you know, have that just wide open at his house
because he's at his house with people that he's supposed
to trust to know exactly what his job is and
to probably also understand the paranoia of his job. So
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you don't, you know, try to tread on that a
little bit. But the other one, too is I understand
the low hanging fruit with the falcons twenty eight to three,
all of these other things, but to blame the organization
for this, I think is a bit of a stretch.
Like this is obviously a knucklehead kid who thought that
he was going to be funny and came across some
information that he was not supposed to have, and then
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they probably had had a few pops and decided, hey,
we're watching the draft just like everybody else.
Speaker 7 (02:05:08):
Hey let's mess with shador. I've got his number. That's
what happened, Not Dan, It's not funny. There's I didn't
find one thing about it funny. I just didn't. Oh,
it's just joke. It's like a comedian. No, it's not.
You're now you're messing with somebody's livelihood who's at the
lowest of low's when it comes to nobody more shocked
and bummed than him, Shador Sanders. And to get that call,
and to call that early when everybody was speculating that
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the team that was going to draft him was the
New Orleans Saints, Come on now, I mean not everybody.
That's not fair people. Some of the people in the
media speculated and mel Kiper's head damn near exploded this
past week and unbelievable. But I just don't. I don't.
I think it's weak. And you're right. If I can't
go to my house and leave a computer open when
you got kids around and you're worried that they're going
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to do it, then that's a home problem, not in
an Atlanta Falcons problem. And I'm sure Jeff Ulbrick made
sure his kid knows that, uh, he's going to barbecue
his ass because it makes Jeff look bad. And all
Jeff did was probably he might have gone up and
went to the restroom or what. I don't know what
he did. But this is a twenty one year old
kid in the TikTok era thinking it's funny to get
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clicks and pranks and then then to put it on.
He thought it was going to work in his favor,
and he probably thought that shed Neerth Sanders was going
to get taken by somebody or a little lower not
out of the first round, five rounds later. Yeah, it's
not funny. In an apology, well, I guess it'll have
to be sufficient. Let it be learned, Let it be
a lesson learned that you don't mess with somebody's livelihood
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like you might as well have gone in and stole
his money at his house and stole all his jewelry
and everything, because you basically, you know, put a pit
in the guy's stomach thinking, oh my gosh, this is
going to be the greatest day. I am getting picked
in the first ten picks, and then bam, this happens. Nah.
And that that's and it's not a Jeff Ulbrick thing.
I don't know how he's raised him, but I imagine
fairly disciplined, i'd hope. And it's not an Atlanta Falcons problem.
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It's a kid problem that thought it was funny in
that clips and likes through everything everybody gets and thought
the reaction was going to be different, and he got
hammered for it and should and anybody that thinks it's
funny hasn't been in that situation. There's nothing funny about it.
Speaker 6 (02:07:10):
Yeah, he's probably not going to be invited with dad
to go to work anytime soon.
Speaker 7 (02:07:13):
I wouldn't hire him in a football office at least
now he'd have to go through a little bit of
a purgatory to figure out what am I going to do?
If he wanted to be a football guy, I'd be like, Okay, well,
there's gonna be some things you're gonna have to do
to make sure you can gain that trust back. It's
just I didn't. There's a lot of things you could
have done that were funny. Get into somebody's career like that.
And if you want to go online and do a
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video saying and they know it's Jeff Oldbricks, somebody's going
on saying, you know what, I've watched a lot of
college Colorado football. I don't like his game or man an.
Then that's his opinion. He's a twenty one year old
g I think he's twenty one right, can make his
own decisions. Yeah, I completely one hundred percent. It's not
being all how dear, you know he's he deserved this, now,
Shuder Sanders didn't deserve one ounce of that phone call,
not one ounce of it. Now, if you want to
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critique his approach to the draft and all that have
at it, you don't do that, man, You just don't
do that.
Speaker 6 (02:08:03):
Yeah, And you know the other moral of the story
is there. Like I said, you know, you got a
buddy of yours that's waiting on a call text, don't
call text? How about just wait till he calls you. Okay, Yeah,
that's fair too. That's better on draft day.
Speaker 7 (02:08:14):
You just thought it'd be like somebody him calling you
when you're sitting in an interview and you forgot to
turn your ring. Hey, what's going on? Man has the interview?
Ye dude, I'm in it. Yeah, I'll tell you what
I'm done. I was gonna say, bother man with his
livelihoods on the line. That's you know, it's it's it's
like announcing things like let them announce it. It's not
your announce that's exactly. It's not your shine, it's not
your tie, not your flowers. Damn it. I agreed people sometimes.
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good morning, Hey guys.
Speaker 19 (02:10:26):
I noticed the last part of the game of the Lakers.
When I say the last part, I'm talking about it
when it was one sixteen, one thirteen. And I also
noticed that Luca and Lebron didn't take the shot. I
know it's a three point shot, but I I'll tell
you Lebron Michael Jordan would have taken it unless it
was a plan play in the finals with Kerr Paxton.
(02:10:48):
But I want, I want y'all to talk about that.
Why why the two big guns didn't take the shot?
And I'll hang up and listen all.
Speaker 7 (02:10:55):
I appreciate the call.
Speaker 6 (02:10:57):
I mean, the only thing I could have thought of
is I think they leave they were gonna get fouled,
is what I saw, because it looked like Julius Randall
I think, tried to foul Lebron before he dished it
off to Austin Reeves. So that's the only thing I
could think of. Yeah, I of course you you draw
it up for one of those two. I mean that's
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and what how many minutes they play? Forty six each? Yeah,
both of them put a lot of them in Magic.
Johnson made a comment.
Speaker 7 (02:11:25):
Now, the question is, is a guy who's that involved
with the Lakers questioning his head coach's decision to play
him as much as he did. It's never a dull moment. Yeah,
no doubt about it. Listen, do I believe that there
was fear not to take the shot?
Speaker 11 (02:11:40):
Now?
Speaker 7 (02:11:40):
Whatever? Whatever plat I wish, I wish I had an idea.
I don't think JJ Reddick dials up a play. It's
going to go through those two and then they're going
to do with it. Like Steve just said, I don't
think the play was dialed up when Chicago called it
for Michael not to get the shot. I believe it
was also the Jordan's awareness though if I can't get
the shot, I'm going to give it up, so Craig Hodges,
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Jim Paxson, Steve Kirk can knock it down. So whenever
you do that, listen, they come over the side. I
think everybody in the world knows the two guys that
were going to facilitate it, and when you don't get it,
you're hoping that another guy can knock it down. So
I don't think they draw it up. You know, you
draw it up to hope that a third option gets
that shot, and it turns out that way sometimes, and
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you've got to give the other team credit, you know,
brilliance in the first four games to have themselves in
this position right now, up three to one. So the
Lakers are going to look back and say how to
well if if the situation creates itself next time. But
you know, awareness and when when your star gives it up,
there's a reason. And you know what's been questioned about Lebron,
which probably isn't fair. It happened the inability to close
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out stuff like that. At times He's closed out plenty,
But when he doesn't take the shot, guess everybody says
he's not twenty three. And I understand the disdain for that.
But sometimes a game situation is most of the time,
in truth, games situations drawn up on the side, whether
it's basketball or football or even baseball, it doesn't usually
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end up the way you drew it up. Sometimes it
does and it's like this is our day, But a
lot of times it doesn't. So it's what you do
on the fly and under duress. And unfortunately for the Lakers,
this is a loss they'll take and may not get
them through the series. Now, as Minnesota leads at three
to one, Oh.
Speaker 6 (02:13:30):
Come on, Sean, I can specifically remember when Stee when
Jill Jackson drew up a play for Judd Buschler, absolutely.
Speaker 7 (02:13:38):
Never gonna happen. Now, Michael kicks, I mean Michael drives
and kicks the bushelers standing up for a mid range
for a two pointer great or knocked down a three.
But those are few and far between. Notice there aren't
too many drawn up for Bill Winnington or Luke Longley. Right, well,
let me tell you this what happens if a shot
gets knocked down in the situation with the Lakers. Now,
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what are we saying, brilliant design? The design when the
third or fourth guy has his hands on the ball
at the end of a game is not by design.
It's a it's a oh don't shoot it. Oh yeah,
you should not by design? Yet, if I can't trust
Steve Kerr to knock down a spot up when I'm
kicking it out, I'm twenty three and they're and they're
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collapsing and doubling me. Then you're, in essence playing with
what Pip and Jordan and Kuk coach at times. Right,
you got to have to have those guys knock down shots,
and that's what they're paid to do. And in Jordan's
case and with other people, it happened. But you're never designed,
I can assure you when if Minnesota is in the situation,
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who do you think they're dialing up to play for Anthony?
And then you're going to decide on the way what
you're gonna do. In in Oklahoma City, gilges Alexander starting
with the basketball or you're getting it to him in
the rotation and then we'll see how he does it. Now,
if you've seen enough evidences, here's how they played the
star at the end of a game, then whoever you're
two or three guy, you can spot up and hit
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it getting his spot and get the ball his spot.
That's up to the facilitator with the ball in his
hand to his side. But it rarely looks like the
way you want it to. For sure, John and Needville.
Good morning, John, what's going on?
Speaker 11 (02:15:17):
Get y'all off the speaker, man, Yes, please do.
Speaker 9 (02:15:21):
Hey, let's talk about a bunch of stuff.
Speaker 20 (02:15:25):
Let's go first. Let me let me boy, it's on
top of my head. The twenty one year old kid with.
Speaker 13 (02:15:30):
The executive or whoever. If I was his daddy, I'd
put my foot up his ass. Boy, you about to
cost me my job. You about to be you spoiled
rich little brat.
Speaker 9 (02:15:42):
You think this is funny. This is somebody's livelihood.
Speaker 20 (02:15:46):
I mean, I'm not a Sanders fan, or I'm somewhat
on the fence of a Sanders fan, But dude, you
don't do that.
Speaker 9 (02:15:54):
Man, he needs his ass whipped.
Speaker 20 (02:15:56):
He needs a good old fashioned butt whipping for his
It's just that's that's.
Speaker 14 (02:16:04):
Hey.
Speaker 9 (02:16:05):
It might cost him his job.
Speaker 20 (02:16:06):
But anyway, Texans, Yeah, Okay, Friday, I was a little
upset with the draft that morning. Okay, everything went okay.
I think they did good. They got the guy out
of Minnesota. Gonna be okay. My Pittsburgh Steelers, I don't
know what the hell they're talking about or thinking about.
(02:16:26):
We gotta have a quarterback. We're going in there with
Nason Rudolph. I mean, if anything go get I guess,
well you can't go get Cousins because Cousins just got
paid his roster bonus.
Speaker 9 (02:16:36):
If I'm not mistaken, Uh, what that came out? And
what this month, Sean.
Speaker 7 (02:16:44):
Cousins usually in March. Yeah, well we're in April, though,
I take it back here. They may have moved the
it's the the NFL year, when it starts, when it ends.
It may have been in April this year. Yeah, but
there's a certain time in the off season where that
that that NFL season kicks in and whatever that whatever
that date is. But yeah, Cousins getting paid. I mean,
I guess there's still a chance you can trade him,
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but he's getting his money because that's most of his
has been guaranteed. Hell, since he got to Minnesota and
now in Atlanta.
Speaker 20 (02:17:11):
Yeah, now on Sanders deal, This is my part on Sanders.
He did it to hisself. He did this to his
self with his arrogance and his cockiness.
Speaker 7 (02:17:20):
He you're talking about and you're not talking about the
prank car. You're talking about where he got drafted.
Speaker 9 (02:17:24):
No, I'm talking about where he got drafted.
Speaker 11 (02:17:27):
He did this to his self.
Speaker 9 (02:17:29):
He's not. He wasn't that good. He didn't do nothing.
Speaker 20 (02:17:32):
I don't care if your numbers on a friggin wall
in Boulder, Colorado.
Speaker 9 (02:17:37):
You didn't do nothing. Dude.
Speaker 20 (02:17:39):
If he didn't have Travis Hunter, he would wouldn't have
haven't even had them stats. But this is what got
me with Sanders once he finally got drafted. Do you
realize how many young men were not mentioned as the
picks were going down the line because that idiot male Kuiper.
Speaker 9 (02:18:04):
I can't believe if the NFL does not go to
the ESPN and tell him something. I mean, Kiper, you're
a joke.
Speaker 11 (02:18:12):
You are a joke.
Speaker 20 (02:18:13):
You predict you are You're a clown for sitting there
and arguing with Reese and uh, what's his name? Oh,
and then saying that the NFL has not gotten fifty
fifty years quarterbacks?
Speaker 9 (02:18:28):
Right?
Speaker 4 (02:18:29):
Who are you?
Speaker 3 (02:18:30):
Who are you?
Speaker 9 (02:18:31):
You sit in your basement in North America, Northwest wherever
and play on a computer. You ain't never jocked it up, dude.
Speaker 20 (02:18:42):
And for him to and for them to keep going
into those young men who's yes, they were in the
fifth and sixth round, but dude, they deserve to have
their name mentioned on that broadcast, but no, Kuyper had
to have his grand.
Speaker 9 (02:18:58):
Standing anyway, got out my soapbox for the week.
Speaker 6 (02:19:03):
I appreciate John, I mean yeah, I mean there was
a lot of that on Saturday too, and you kind
of get just too.
Speaker 7 (02:19:11):
Much of it. It was a joke. You can say
what we want. The NFL is not gonna do anything
to melt Kuiper if that's his opinion. And regardless of
what we're doing, they're still talking about. They're gonna talk
about They're gonna talk about Lakers. They're gonna talk about SHIRER. Sanders.
That's we're gonna do on television. You knew this was
coming down the pike while we all had me. I
thought it was an embarrassment on Thursday night that the
number one pick of the draft was mentioned less. It
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was he was an afterthought and he's the best player
at his position in this draft, and there is a
gap between him and the next guy. There just is. Now.
Whether that happens to translate to the NFL, we'll see,
a lot of things have to happen for a quarterback
to be successful. But I and Sanders, you know what,
A lot less pressure on him now you're a fifth
round pick, You're no hurry. Cam Ward's gonna have to
start from day one. Pressure falls on him. All that,
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but the fact that that they couldn't get off into
the most talked about player in the draft was a
fifth round pick. It was was they they were They
were wrong with that. But you know what they're getting
out of it, exactly what they want. You're talking about it.
We all are still and we'll talk about it to you.
You're going to talk about it until end of the fall.
Speaker 3 (02:20:17):
I all.
Speaker 7 (02:20:19):
I'm talking about they will. And the second throws three
completions in a preseason game. Why didn't we draft him?
That's what they're going to say. He's got, He's got
and I hope it works out for him. Anybody that
roots for his failures, it's it's it's weird to me.
Sure you don't have to be a fan of his,
but to to root for yeah, I love it when
he slides, Well, he's arrogant, he got humble pie, and
he's gonna have to go to work. And now the
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real stuff begins. This is where the real stuff begins.
You're getting a huge body, your fifth round pick. Now
you've got to go win and make the team so.
But their coverage of it was quite frankly weak. It
just was they they understand what the clicks are doing.
Look on social media. Look how many cam Ward mentions
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and look how many I mean, just it's the way
it is. But you know what, Choudour's got a lot
of work to do to get back and win some
people over because thirty two teams passed on him for
one hundred and what forty three picks. Yeah, and whether
it's about talent or something else, he's got some proven
to do because a lot of people, if you think
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he's gonna make your team a lot better, you draft
him sooner. That's their thought. We may think different. I
was telling you what they're thinking, and they didn't collude
thirty two teams on a zoom call not to draft
him until the fifth round.
Speaker 6 (02:21:32):
This is why I watched the game day coverage. This
alone was why because I was like, I don't need
to hear mel Kiper yelling at me. I don't need
to hear any of the other you know, just overly
football terms and all of these things to make yourself
sound smarter. I just didn't want it, and I didn't
need it, and I didn't care for it.
Speaker 7 (02:21:49):
And I like Mel a lot. I always have me
enough work I do now. It was a lot of
hyperbolic stuff, and I know he's built himself aunt beneath.
He's gonna built a great career. He didn't need to
do some of that, I mean, but he was fired
up it. But it was almost you would have thought
it was his kid, that's it felt like he was
like that. There was a vested interest in Colorado and
Dion and Shdor Sanders. It was weird. I don't I
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understand your passion, but we didn't let go constantly. I
can tell you this. As much as I like Mel,
there are people in the NFL know a lot more
about the position than he does.
Speaker 6 (02:22:24):
I'll just leave it at that. Well, and some people
might have lost a lot of respect for him too
over the weekend. For how hand, it was a grand standing.
It was misplaced displaced rage and for what for what?
It was almost as if it was It was weird
to me and I liked Mel, but that wasn't it.
And I just thought it was Thank goodness of Rhys
(02:22:45):
Davis has some sense and to get this thing back
to normalcy and Reese does, but Mel was in it.
It was a weird, a weird couple of days watching
because the undertone was it didn't matter what anything else
was going on.
Speaker 7 (02:22:59):
Hey, this Wider Years draft?
Speaker 10 (02:23:00):
Did you have?
Speaker 7 (02:23:00):
But what about your door? Sanders? It was out of hand.
Speaker 6 (02:23:03):
It's just some people pick weir weird hills to die on,
and Mel definitely did. Tony Mark John see you guys
right there, get you guys involved in the conversation, but
also too. We love it when these guys lose, especially
the way they lost. We'll let you hear it next
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Speaker 11 (02:23:54):
Who's Who's Shaw. He's the wise eternal judge who sits
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Speaker 9 (02:23:59):
Here's the five stay on all disputes.
Speaker 1 (02:24:02):
Back to the Sean Salisbury Show on Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 6 (02:24:07):
Rangers and Giants were yesterday where it's a two to
two game and you've got the Giants up their final
at bat. Eli O Ramos leads off the inning and
then all hell breaks loose because that's exactly what happened yesterday,
and oh so sad for the Rangers.
Speaker 3 (02:24:24):
Promos is one for two, that's just one to third,
and he tells you down the ready, Bill l Rathers
is on the ball and he is gonna start.
Speaker 7 (02:24:38):
No, now, he's gonna go to third.
Speaker 3 (02:24:40):
Here's the three.
Speaker 5 (02:24:45):
This game is over. The Giants winning the game at
a little league home run.
Speaker 7 (02:24:52):
Tell me you've seen that one before?
Speaker 3 (02:24:54):
Well, that says, by all, the sun was ten years
old and.
Speaker 7 (02:25:00):
And you can get it right. That's it.
Speaker 6 (02:25:03):
So Ramos taps it just to the left of the mound,
right towards third base. The pitcher gets it. Mind you,
he was a lead off hit or the inning there's
no outs, so the pitcher decides to play hero balls.
Luke Jackson just absolutely uncorks it down the right to
ten feet easily.
Speaker 7 (02:25:18):
Easily.
Speaker 6 (02:25:19):
I mean the runner was crossing the bag when the
ball would have possibly gotten there, like maybe it was
somewhere around there the first base. The decision to throw
it it was atrocious. Yes, it was terrible and only
to be met with more atrocity at that point.
Speaker 7 (02:25:34):
Compound one with another.
Speaker 6 (02:25:35):
That's it was Jake Berger, the first baseman, deciding, Hey,
I'm gonna play hero ball here. I'll get him at
third base. You're not gonna get him at third base.
Balls by him?
Speaker 7 (02:25:43):
What a burger? Yeah, yeah, it was. It was a
bad one. It wasn't a good one.
Speaker 6 (02:25:48):
It was the one that Luke Brown told his his
clubhouse that they should make a bunch of sports riders eat.
Speaker 7 (02:25:52):
Yeah, that was. That was a great call on the
little league home run four airs and cross home. When
you get home, your parents told you, oh, we hit
a home run. It was awesome. Kyper and Cruco, Man,
they're a great, great combo. They really have been for
a long time. They really are.
Speaker 6 (02:26:07):
But it's just it's not only that the Rangers lose,
but it's in that fashion where you're just like, hey, look,
you know, maybe the Astros don't always answer the call,
but least they ain't doing.
Speaker 7 (02:26:18):
Stuff like that. Yeah, that's that is a and normally
you see those things happen. Oh guys, there's a guy
on second pitcher, gets it, wheels, has to make a
really tough throw across his body, throws it down the line.
Now you're wondering if the guy covered. Now there's a
play at the plate, right, normally played at the plate
with the guy who's already on and got an out
(02:26:40):
or two in the inning. It doesn't usually come from
bases empty, and the guy runs it, has an inside
the park home run with two airs on it, little
league home run, and scores to end it. It's not
usually the way those games end. And I'm sure here
in this town the team that had happened against made
him very happy.
Speaker 6 (02:26:56):
Oh did I mean, especially for all the jawing that
their fan base did during that LCS and especially afterwards,
which I get it, look scoreboard, you got it, you
want congratulations, But I mean it would be fun to
be a fly on the wall up there in DFW
today for people of being like, what the hell is
this team doing?
Speaker 7 (02:27:13):
Mochi's seen it all. He may not have seen that one.
Speaker 6 (02:27:16):
Oh that's that's one of those like where you don't
get mad, you don't you don't show any emotion right there.
You just you just grab whatever notes are in front
of you, and you just go right to the clubhouse.
Speaker 7 (02:27:26):
Head down the stairs and go and get a shower
and go home, and don't even mention like cause you're
gonna lose sixty five of them no matter what. Just
chalk that up to be in one of them. It
could have been we lost nine to nothing in this game,
no difference because if you let that fester or people like,
oh my gosh, that's self inflicted problems. And they were
decisions more than even just the bad throws.
Speaker 6 (02:27:45):
That's that's one of those in the clubhouse right there,
of you know whoever is the first question there, and
you got all the microphones and writers around them, Oh
you say anything that a team about it? I think
Boach's response should be, what the hell should I say
to them? I think they know, what the hell? What
am I going to teach them on that? Bad decision?
Bad throw, bad decision, bad throw, I even the one
(02:28:08):
I get while you're trying to make the throw a
third because now you're in third base with no outs.
Speaker 7 (02:28:12):
Now somebody's just got a lift one, right. But you
sure made it easy on him if you wanted to,
you wanted to get the game over you you you
sure did a good job of assisting him. That's what
what what an ending man's that's one of those.
Speaker 6 (02:28:23):
I mean, you know, as Kuiper asks Krucoh, you know
you ever seen that? He's like, probably not since my
oldest was ten years old. Because if you've ever coached
little league, tyler, Tyler over here.
Speaker 7 (02:28:35):
No no, no, no, no, Tyler, throw.
Speaker 3 (02:28:36):
The ball in.
Speaker 6 (02:28:38):
Just don't miss parents out there, you know, no question,
because you had you had a couple of the kids
who get it, and you have the one kid that well,
let's face it, you put them out in the right
field and just say, oh my god, I'm.
Speaker 7 (02:28:49):
Now right stud with a huge arm in the little league.
It was the guy you hid.
Speaker 6 (02:28:54):
Yeah, yeah, no, we all remember those days, Yes, sir,
for sure it did look like the little league baseball
for sure, yes day at the end there in San Francisco,
all right, John Kenneth Tony. You see you guys right there.
Get you guys involved in the conversation. Also, you want
to talk to some Texans, Drafts, Astros, Rockets, whatever it is,
we have discussed it. It's fair games someone three two
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The Shawn Salisbury Show continued.
Speaker 7 (02:31:04):
Tony and Angleton and Tony, good morning.
Speaker 11 (02:31:07):
Good morning guys, the Rockets. I'm I'm a I'm a
I'm a glass half half full guy.
Speaker 17 (02:31:14):
I'm not worried about what we're gonna do next year,
who we're gonna draft who we're gonna keep. I'm just
worried about this. This is a seven game series. Any
seven game series that you gotta adapt, you gotta adjust.
Speaker 9 (02:31:25):
And you know, just somethings to join it.
Speaker 17 (02:31:28):
As far as the draft is concerned, we drafted nine
players until they put the pads on.
Speaker 11 (02:31:35):
You know, let's let's talk about it. When they put
the pads on.
Speaker 17 (02:31:38):
The Astros, they're starting to play good ball and they're
starting to play a little bit better or done started
the thing with ord One. They're pitching around him and
he's you know, he's having He's swinging at some bad pitches.
But I'm just a half full guy. I'm glad to
be here. Guys, I'm I'm glad. But what I really
want to say is about the golf tournament this weekend.
If you don't have anything to do, go out to
(02:31:59):
uh to the Woodland this weekend.
Speaker 11 (02:32:00):
Go go to the Inspirity.
Speaker 10 (02:32:01):
I'm not I'm not.
Speaker 11 (02:32:02):
I don't work for them.
Speaker 17 (02:32:03):
I don't, but they've got a thing called Folds of
Honor going on, and there's a lot of the legends
of golf are going to be there. I think there's
one hundred combined, one hundred and thirty four major championships.
Speaker 11 (02:32:16):
Guys will be there.
Speaker 17 (02:32:17):
Saturday, and it's a it's it's family, family type event,
and it's wholesome and it's outdoors, and get out and
go go enjoy.
Speaker 11 (02:32:25):
Go enjoy the weather this week and go to the inspirity.
Speaker 17 (02:32:28):
Last thing I want to say is about about the
social media that the standards thing.
Speaker 11 (02:32:33):
We asked for it.
Speaker 17 (02:32:33):
Guys, we asked for cell phones, giving kids cell phones.
It's seven or eight years old. Social media.
Speaker 9 (02:32:39):
We asked for all this. Okay, uh, you got you
gotta take the good with the bad.
Speaker 11 (02:32:43):
You'll have a great day. Man.
Speaker 7 (02:32:44):
I appreciate the call.
Speaker 6 (02:32:45):
I mean that's then again, I mean that's where parenting
probably comes in, and especially too for Jeff Olbrook. I mean,
Jackson knows fully well there's things he can't talk about.
Speaker 7 (02:32:56):
He's twenty one years old. Right. I understand what with
Tony saying, right, I do? I get that he's saying that,
you know, that's what happens with social media, but it
doesn't have to That was a that's not well, just
because you have social media, it gives you carte blanche
to do that. The bottom line is that a twenty
one year old, he cared more about clicks, thinking it
(02:33:17):
was cool and I don't know if booze was involved.
And my guess is it wasn't a clean slate of
bottled water. But regardless, to not think about that at
twenty one tells you that's the negative about social media
can be used for a good thing. But that was
simply let me this will be cool. I'm gonna see
if I can go this viral. And then you wake
up the next day thinking, or that night before, or
(02:33:38):
you wake out of bed that night like you were
talking about during a break is it Pops calls up
and says, or wakes you up in the crib and says,
we got to talk. Well, dad, what's the problem. Can
we wait till tomorrow? No, So you're up now. So
we're doing how you take care of it your home.
But it doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out,
even a twenty one year old that that's not funny. Well,
(02:33:59):
it's also I mean, I'm assuming in.
Speaker 6 (02:34:04):
Coaches all the time talk about you know, the families involved,
the families you know got to understand what you do
all of these different things.
Speaker 7 (02:34:10):
So he knows what the NFL is.
Speaker 6 (02:34:12):
At least his dad's probably tried to explain it to
him of hey, there's things I tell you you can't
tell people, like there's things that you know people would
want to know information wise that if that got out
that gets back to me, then I'm in trouble.
Speaker 7 (02:34:24):
Which he probably already is.
Speaker 6 (02:34:26):
I mean, you have to believe with the Falcons putting
out that that statement yesterday Sean, that they're like, hey,
you better handle this otherwise we'll handle you.
Speaker 7 (02:34:36):
And you're not going to be our coach. That's right,
and it'll get handled. It'll get handled, I assure you
next draft he won't be doing this. But damage done
and shit or will move on. Maybe we're probably more
I mean, I'm sure it was like damn, and he
handled it. He's not going to make an excuse of it.
But it's still bush Lake and you're twenty one. Say
(02:34:57):
that he's a kid, I don't know who's saying it.
I'm so tired of the we re roll out of
Red Car Say he's a kid who wouldn't do that? Well,
I wouldn't and neither would you. Just don't do it.
I did a lot of knucklehead things at twenty one,
but it did call the guy on his the most
important day of his career so far. You wouldn't do that.
I wouldn't think if you do, then you're a clown too.
But you wouldn't. So I'm a clown for different right. No,
(02:35:19):
that's I'm not saying. We have made mistakes. Thank goodness.
Social media wasn't around when I was. You know, when
we were sixteen, back we had to go to a
payphone and you weren't doing getting any damage done there.
So yeah, it just is, he's not a kid. It
was a mistake and a self inflicted mistake that he's
going to be. He's going to here every year he's
(02:35:39):
going a draft time, he'll he'll be reminded of it.
But Chadu will handle it and go on and do
his thing. But you just can't do that. And at
twenty one you know better. If you can pop and
if you can crack open a beer, you know you
shouldn't hit send if it's going to change affect somebody.
And that was that was weak. I just say, would
you want this done to you? And you'd say absolutely not.
(02:36:00):
At twenty one you know better.
Speaker 6 (02:36:01):
Well, it's also too I mean, they tell you social media, man,
it's a loaded gun, and especially you got some of
the other things right there. Well, then a simple i'm
sorry doesn't necessarily take up for it. John on the Northwest, John,
good morning.
Speaker 21 (02:36:16):
Hey, good morning guys. First off, the draft, I'm I'm
very I'm happy with it. I think that you know,
I called in Friday and I was glad that we
trade out of the first round because we had five
picks out of the first one hundred and uh and.
Speaker 11 (02:36:30):
I know we trade out one of them, but but
I think I think we got a good.
Speaker 21 (02:36:34):
Uh, a good group of players. The two receivers from
Iowa State, it's interesting. And Sean that quarterback we got
from out of uh what it was out of Florida, right,
uh Graham brilliant.
Speaker 7 (02:36:46):
Chris Graham Mertz who went from Wisconsin to Florida. Yeah.
Speaker 21 (02:36:49):
Yeah, and before he got hurt, that guy had some
really impressive stats.
Speaker 11 (02:36:53):
I think.
Speaker 21 (02:36:54):
Uh So, I don't know that I found that interesting,
but I think, uh but also I wanted to just
comment a little bit on your door, and I you know,
I'm with you, guys. I take myself almost every day
that cell phones weren't around when I was like in
my late teens and early twenties, you know, And I
remember I had to have that conversation with my kids like, hey,
don't ever put yourself online, don't ever do it.
Speaker 11 (02:37:16):
And so anyways, but.
Speaker 21 (02:37:21):
And I heard the rumor that he had a really
bad interview with the Giants. I guess and uh, and
you know, and I'm wondering, you know, I looked at
Colorado's coaching staff. They have a guy named Pat Shermer
who is the offensive coordinator.
Speaker 7 (02:37:35):
Yeah, who's been an offensive coordinator in the endem He's
been a quarterback coach and coach offense in the NFL
for a long time. His dad was a great defensive coordinator,
his his.
Speaker 11 (02:37:44):
I mean, yeah, he's been everywhere.
Speaker 21 (02:37:46):
You wonder, do you think that the coaches were calling
him and just saying, hey, you know, what's his work ethic?
Do you study film?
Speaker 11 (02:37:52):
Does you do?
Speaker 21 (02:37:53):
I was just curious if he had any part in this. Uh,
I'm just wondering what your thoughts would be on that.
So I'll be quiet and listen now.
Speaker 7 (02:38:02):
John, thanks a lot. Yeah, I would say that if
it was me, I would have a hard time believing
that you wouldn't call the guy who sits in the
room with your Dr. Sanders. Is he a student? Is
he prepared? Is he and you know he's going to
say all the things that he needs to say in public.
I mean, I'm talking about coach Shermer, but he's a
smart football coach. And I would imagine he given honest
(02:38:25):
because you you're your credibility is on the line as
well well, a guy who went through this, there's no
question about it, so you go. I would imagine, yeah, John,
I don't know anybody that is going to draft a
guy that wouldn't call, and not only the head coach,
but hell if you had the backup quarterbacks number or
another player on the team. How was he? How was
(02:38:46):
he honestly? How how was he around the other guys
or what was it like? And is he a great
team guy?
Speaker 14 (02:38:52):
What do you?
Speaker 7 (02:38:52):
And I'm sure Coach Shermer got talked to many a
time by guys just wanted details. Is he a student?
Is he does he do the lonely work? Is he
show up on time? Is either early or late? For
whatever reason? There's there's a lot of factors involved in
the shud or Sanders plummet. The question is did our
evaluation or a fan or media's evaluation match the NFL's evaluation.
(02:39:16):
All the talk from mock draft people said all first
round talent or second round talent? Well did Did the
NFL people that actually watch tape feel the same way?
All thirty two of them? Clearly? And that's exactly right?
So yeah, I and Graham Mertz is a smart player
and he did put up some numbers. No risk taking
a guy that late, he got beat out and injured
(02:39:37):
by a kid who's going to be a star in
DJ Lagway at Florida. The Graham Mertz is a veteran
who's got a chance and maybe a guy you can
keep on this rostering around because he's got some good football.
I like you, and there's no risk in drafting him
where you did with a seventh round pick? Was the
seventh round pick or sixth round pick? What was he
for you? Graham Mertz? Six? The sixth round? Seven rounds? Yeah,
(02:39:59):
it's seven seven. Yeah, I'm sitting here thinking, damn, did
they take off another round but late? Because that's where
the last pick of the seventh round was pretty and
you're hoping you find another guy like that. Sure chances
are slim, but you never know. You get that backup
quarterback coming out of the dining hall. Hey, hey, hey,
buddy over here, I want to talk to you really quick.
Why is that guy wearing a brown shirt? Yeah? Weird? Well,
(02:40:21):
in truth, why wouldn't you time? I mean, you're not
hanging around there the training table, but when you take
a visit on campus, maybe you say, do you mind
if I visit with somebody else about him? I mean,
whatever that pro I want to know if I'm investing
a first round pick, like, for instance, let's switch to
let's switch to you know, cam Ward, first pick of
your drafts, either going to sit you back or gonna
(02:40:43):
elevate you. Tennessee's going one way or the other with
this pick, and I think that he's pretty damn good.
But I would talk to anybody that was willing to
talk back about what kind of players see I would.
I would go all the way back to Incarnate Word
when he first started. Then I would jump into Washington
State player, say anybody that knows him from there, and
then I'd go to you know, to Florida and talk
(02:41:05):
to them all from Billion Apier everybody to find out
is this worth it? And I would imagine they did
their due diligence and said this is the guy, and
good on cam Ward, But yeah, you do your due diligence,
and Coach Shermer, I'm sure took a lot of that
did from a lot of different people, took a lot
of phone calls.
Speaker 6 (02:41:22):
Shops are too precious, man. I mean, it's one of
those that any small misstep can get you out of
a job. And that's where getting those picks right, that's
that's why it's so important.
Speaker 7 (02:41:32):
Missing on a defensive tackle in the first round. You
can overcome not that you don't want to do. Then
you start to look, man, should we drafted the guy
four picks later? That's what that is. It's the regret stuff.
But you can still overcome missing it on a defensive
tackle you thought was going to be a Hall of
Famer and as a bust three years later on a quarterback.
Your franchise isn't being set back five to six seven years.
(02:41:53):
It is if you've thrown your if you've thrown it
into that's our future. And if that doesn't work, it
sets you back far more than a We drafted a
tight end in the first round and it didn't work out,
we'll be okay. But when you draft a quarterback, you're
throwing it all in because the guy starting the second
he gets off that flight to sign his contract, no
doubt about.
Speaker 6 (02:42:13):
It's h Kenneth see you right there, gets you involved
in the conversation. Speaking of the Texans traft class, some
thoughts on that of early guys that are going to
contribute for this team.
Speaker 7 (02:42:23):
We'll talk about it here. Sean Salisbury show.
Speaker 3 (02:42:27):
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Speaker 7 (02:42:41):
Who doesn't?
Speaker 6 (02:42:42):
Yeah, if you if you don't love the blumber Man,
I don't know what to do with you. You gotta
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Speaker 9 (02:42:52):
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Is the best birthday to him? For sure? For sure?
Speaker 6 (02:42:55):
We love Blumber, TK, Sparky, Robert Ford. We we we're
pretty fortunate around these parts.
Speaker 7 (02:43:02):
We sure are Steven Sparks, Bobby Ford, Jeffrey Blum, and uh,
Todd's just taught. I mean he was going to say,
what is the Is there another name for Anthony it's Tony.
What what is Todd?
Speaker 6 (02:43:17):
I don't think there is another one for Todd, So
it's just Todd callous. It's not Todd Lee Todd Rick.
Speaker 5 (02:43:24):
Totter.
Speaker 7 (02:43:25):
Yeah, it's not that you throw that at him. You're
gonna get a response. That's the formal and the informal,
like money. Yeah. Yeah, in the house, I was gonna say,
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I mean well it's actually it's a slam dunk finished.
It can't forget about Julia, there's no there's absolutely no doubt.
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Good good group of TV and radio.
Speaker 6 (02:43:51):
We got here and shout out Esh and Brian Bogus.
Oh yeah, there's studio stuff off Redick everybody too.
Speaker 12 (02:44:00):
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Speaker 7 (02:44:00):
Stanton always cracks me up with him is he's always
gotta have some sort of prop. Well, if you notice
that our guy, Uh, why am I losing my mind? Uh? Davis? Uh?
On the CBS broadcast, Fox broadcast, Das No not Joe Analyst,
football analyst, My guy, Charles Davis, Charles, I'm moving my mind.
He always has a football when they go out there.
(02:44:22):
He's holding a football when they go down. When they
say let's go up into the booth and he and
maybe it's Kevin Harlan, whoever his partner is. They're talking.
Charles always has a football in his hand. Some guys,
it's like Lee Corso with always had the number ten sidensial. Yeah,
it's like a comfort zone. It's like a crutch not
and I get it, friend, and I and I get
the crutch saying but yeah, and Mike, I would imagine
(02:44:45):
Mike just likes It's just you know, he's a p
He's spent his whole career with the baseball in his hand,
so why not fully get it? There you go, You
go Kenneth in Orange, my dad's hometown wants the way
in Kenneth. What's up?
Speaker 22 (02:44:57):
Okay, this is a couple of things. I wanted to
bounce off the because kind of sit back and let
everybody talk.
Speaker 8 (02:45:03):
But I was just nobody.
Speaker 22 (02:45:05):
Never I haven't heard anybody talk about the potential to
happen with this Cleveland thing, and you do.
Speaker 8 (02:45:14):
And the draft is that it kind.
Speaker 22 (02:45:16):
Of reminds me of when Dallas had Troy Eckman and
Steve Walsh. You had two first round pick quarterbacks, and
then here it is, you standing at two quarterbacks with
all this potential, and so now I'm turning to look
another way.
Speaker 8 (02:45:35):
Now, think about this.
Speaker 22 (02:45:39):
Now we know they a't not gonna keep both of them,
but just think of what you can get for one
of them. And Cleveland right now is drafting money poor, right, okay?
And if this GM played this right here, man, they
may get them some capital because if I remember right,
Steve wash got traded to the Saints for number one,
(02:46:02):
and I think you're a later draft. But but Dallas,
you know they got a lot Dallas. Dallas got a
lot of that talent. They had some good trades back then.
Speaker 7 (02:46:13):
And uh for a team who gave up like eleven
players to get herschel Walker. So and I love teammate.
And yes, Walshington had going as he was a supplemental
first round pick by Jimmy Johnson and Aikman was there
and they eventually yeah there you go, Kenneth, What do
you okay? So you want what do you what are
(02:46:33):
you saying you want somebody to do here with this?
You're talking about, Well, what what I would do?
Speaker 1 (02:46:38):
What?
Speaker 11 (02:46:38):
What?
Speaker 14 (02:46:38):
What would be beautiful?
Speaker 11 (02:46:40):
Is?
Speaker 14 (02:46:40):
Because first of all, man should do it.
Speaker 22 (02:46:43):
He's okay, and everything like that. But see he's he's
not damaged good on the field wise, but he's damaged
socially a little bit. What I would do, man, I
would lay down some some house rules, get the guy in,
develop him because he got all this potential. And I
was hanging this other court out there and squeeze everything
I can to get out because they got missed out
(02:47:05):
so bad. Behind this this this, this, this, this this
this Houston guy.
Speaker 11 (02:47:09):
Man.
Speaker 22 (02:47:10):
And but what I wanted to say too.
Speaker 10 (02:47:13):
Is man.
Speaker 7 (02:47:15):
Really quick?
Speaker 6 (02:47:17):
Yeah all right, yeah, we'll pick that up another time. No,
I I think that's already been.
Speaker 7 (02:47:24):
He wants to trade Mills and get Shadeur Sanders? Is
that No, I'm just asking. That's why I was double check.
You make a good point about understanding. He made a
good point about Steve Walsh sang in Dallas and try
to get assets and or give up some assets for him.
I don't think Shade Sanders is on their radar, but
maybe I'm wrong. I think they're happy with Davis Mills
as a backup.
Speaker 6 (02:47:42):
I think the humility has been served. That's that's a
big time. And now it comes down, now, what kind
of player are you?
Speaker 7 (02:47:47):
You're not. It's for the first time in his career
he won't be under his dad's umbrella as a coach
for so now he gets to step out and do
a saying. Hell, who knows, maybe he'll shine even more.
There you go. I root for his success.
Speaker 6 (02:47:57):
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Speaker 7 (01:58):
Rockets now down to.
Speaker 6 (02:00):
One in their series following an eleven point loss to
the Warriors on Saturday Night. Astros though, salvaging final game
of their series in Kansas City against the Royals seventh
three win yesterday, and the Texans add nine new players
over the weekend in the draft, and Sean, I mean,
I guess that's where we get things started this morning
(02:20):
is we'll get into the Rockets conversation too. Is a
must win game four tonight, but the draft this weekend,
the Texans deciding to go ahead and trade out of
the first round, take four on Friday, five on Saturday,
and yeah, I mean, I think a clear plan for
the Texans in terms of how they handled those couple
(02:42):
of days.
Speaker 7 (02:43):
Major plan. I'm still gonna look back. We talked about
a little Thursday. I get why they I liked what
they did. But if Simmons is ever a player in
this league, is healthy because a lot of people think
that he was one of did. If he's one healthy
and played the whole time, he'd he might have been
one of the first linemen taken. And we discussed that.
(03:03):
You were saying, if it's good enough for Kansas City,
it's good enough. I was thinking about it over the
week and said, Okay, was it I was just going
through the worth it part? Was it worth it? Trading out?
And they did exactly what we pretty much planned. Receivers,
offensive line, a little depth on defense, but that was
to add a little bit of depth and focus on
(03:23):
the offensive side of the ball, and they did. The
question will be was the mistake leaving Josh Simmons on
the table when you had a first round pick? But
only time is going to tell yet if you're going
to do that now, certain people when we give grades
I think grades have always blown my mind because we said,
I really don't know, how do we know If we're
(03:44):
saying that what kind of college player he was, we're
graden off who they played against when they played, when
Bowling Green played Slippery Rock, or William and Mary. Okay,
there's our Southern Cow played Michigan. Yeah, okay, I get it.
But now we've got to look forward to the translation
of how they do it the next level. So grades
make me laugh. I don't know how to put a
letter grade on it. Yeah, this guy, but the hype
(04:05):
because if the letter grade on the hype goes, you'd say, well, Cleveland,
they got a first round talent in the fifth round.
If he was a first round talent to thirty two teams.
Some say first round grade was shoudor Sanders some whether
it's the headache or the town or you didn't think.
I mean there's loud messages sent one way. Whatever we
think that is. So the letter grades blow my mind.
(04:26):
But with the Texans put it this way, you know
that need best available. You walk out of this and
really was it best available or was it the need?
They went and got the need? It, you know, addressed
offensive positions that they needed help at and got him
answered and then added depth at other positions on the
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defensive side of the ball. No issue here, but you're
always going to wonder how guys that maybe were still
on the board that you didn't get and you know,
when it's the offensive line and a tackle, but I
thought they came out of it. It wasn't sexy, but
it was a f and I think that's the best
way I can describe it. And it may end up
being sexy. You know, maybe that they take the head
gear off because you're, you know, in the tenth grade
(05:09):
and you got the head gear braces on, and by
the time you're senior, you're the hottest person on campus.
And the teeth are straight everything, you know, the brain,
that old head gear. I know they don't wear it now,
but old school. We've joked about all this show before
the head gear and then it turns into oh the
headgear person, Well it didn't look was so nice and
cool and awesome and a great personality and got potential
all but now there's production. Look at it, man, perfect
(05:30):
teeth and everything's good. Suffered through the growing pains of well,
you did have a first rounder same thing here three
years from now. This may be end up being sexy
because your second round of plays like a first rounder
and are or more than your second rounder, and then
moving up to get in a certain position to take
and make trades. They did have a plan, and I
thought that they executed it pretty well. So, while not sexy,
(05:52):
looked efficient and looked like needs and best available kind
of because some of the people they drafted, you and I,
judging from what we may have seen on Saturdays, may
not have said, well, that doesn't feel like the best
available on their board. It was or a need that
also filled in, and I think they responded to both
over the weekend.
Speaker 6 (06:12):
Those damn braces they ruined my game in middle school,
at least that's what I tell my soul.
Speaker 7 (06:17):
Yeah, I mean then you gotta just then you got
to just fight through it, fight through the headgear, dan
and so. But this isn't one of those where, you know,
I think most people will say, oh, yeah, they did,
they did fine. I don't think anybody's jumping through like
you would. If you're Giants fans, you probably feel pretty
good today. You got abdua Carter. You trade it up
now you may not have had to trade up to
get Jackson Dart at that stage of the game, but
(06:39):
you did and you feel good about it. So whoever,
the big winners and losers are anybody. Anytime you can
get guys that you feel like you got a long
term quarterback and you got a dominant started that the
Giants did well. But you roll through the whole thing
and they're gonna give There's gonna be somebody who gives
a letter grade to the Texans to see and some
are going to give a B plush. So bottom line
(07:01):
is that it it kind of like the draft. Some
have one guy ranked as a first round draft pick
and others don't have him ranked till the fifth round.
Cleveland and took another quarterback in front of him. So
that's the way it is. Now. I like to see
where they fit in that that's for me more important. Okay,
now they're on a team. How do they translate to
the NFL and for this system in this team. And
I think the Texans, I think they did what they
(07:21):
wanted to do for the most part in this draft
and got some players that they expect to make the
team and at some point impact well.
Speaker 6 (07:28):
And to your point too, about the letter grades. Like
I just saw a tweet before the show started of
somebody saying these teams won the draft over the weekend,
and I'm like, all right, First of all, I wasn't
even aware that that was necessarily a competition.
Speaker 7 (07:41):
But number two, we don't put banners up to who
won the draft.
Speaker 6 (07:43):
It's like, like, what's your criteria for it? Like, like,
is it that they got all the guys that, like
you saw the most on Saturdays.
Speaker 7 (07:51):
Like you know what it is. It's it's the guy
who's watching all this football or not watch it, reads
a bunch of stuff and sees them and saw a
guy make a few plays, uhha, and decide I did that, Well,
this guy's the best player. It's a huge senior, right,
a huge senior bal because he read it or was
there or heard it.
Speaker 8 (08:07):
Right.
Speaker 7 (08:07):
Even but I'm talking about even if somebody who's not
a guru, but they put their own mocked draft together,
that's one person's opinion. One yeah, one person's opinion. And
I can assure you mine's different than a lot of people's,
Like mine's different than Mel Kuiper's. I can promise you that.
And mine's different than Lewis Riddick, who's well respected in
the league and on TV. But you want to talk
(08:29):
about about a dude who got caught up in the Hey,
how am I supposed to letter grade him and Mel
over the weekend? A letter grade? Have you ever noticed
that the fourth round pick? What a great get for
all of them. It's it's amazing to me at at
least one thing about Mel said, well, not in the
fifth round or fourth round and say, yeah, this guy's
got weaknesses. But everybody, Oh he can rip it, he
can run, he's got he's long, and oh he's a
(08:49):
five tech. That's another thing I'm just going to tell TV.
Do yourself a favor. When you talk in lingo. The
guys like me understand because it played it. But if
you're sitting at home, oh man, hey, five technique. But
I mean between Booger and Lewis Ritick, they must have
mentioned five and nine, a wide nine and five technique
and a three technique over the center or that's fine line. Yes,
(09:14):
I know what it is, right, Yeah, you got to
You've got to talk at the draft like you're you
can't talk under the expert because they'll think you don't
know but you don't want to talk over what most
people are that watch Most people after the first thirty
picks don't know the fifth ree. They read it, but
they haven't watched the backup tight end at William and Mary.
They just haven't. Okay, unless you're in what North Carolina
(09:35):
and you watch William and Mary football nine times or
ten times, you just don't. You just know there's somebody
these guys on this draft list that I've never seen
or heard of, and then you go and say, Okay,
do they fit in? I don't know. I mean you
watch them in college and see a couple of plays
or a couple of games. Some guys I've watched, You know,
you watch will Howard all season long because they're on
TV ten times. I'm not going to watch tape unless
(09:56):
I'm a draft girl getting paid on the backup tight
end at William and Mary. I'm just not. Okay. That's
for those guys who put letter grades on him. But
to compare Shador Sanders, No, I'm just using this as
an example. First of all, I was embarrassing that Cam Mood,
the number one pick in the draft, was mentioned less
than a footnote. He was a footnote on the first night. Yeah,
(10:20):
like this is the first pick of the draft and
they blew him off like he was just like he
was a sixth rounder that didn't bring anything to the table.
And this kid has got everything. He's got everything you
want in the quarterback he's got. Now the other guy's
got stuff you want to But he had more than anybody.
But when Lewis Riddick, who I respect and hold in
high regard, But then I got to take a step
(10:42):
back when you compared him to meaning the Shadeur Sanders two,
Tom Brady and Drew Brees and he was thirteen twelve.
Stop it now, if you want to tell me that
you compared him to the way they played in college,
you wouldn't even be close. Brady maybe with was Shoudar,
even though Bret but not not Breeze. Breeze was really
(11:03):
good at Purdue. But to compare a Hall of Fame
Chris A, this guy could have a Tom, Yeah he could.
If my aunt had ball, she'd be my uncle. I
can assure you fifteen years from now we are not
going to be talking about Shador Sanders in the same class. Well,
I can't guarantee it, because it could happen. But we're
more than likely not going to be talking about any
quarterback in the next decade, even current ones like we do.
(11:26):
Tom Brady Mahomes is the closest, and he's going to
have a hard time getting to seven Super Bowl wins.
Stein the most accurate quarterback all around is sustained accuracy
and history. Drew brees Thatt's slow. But when you get
stuff like that, I know it's hyperbole and they get
caught up in the hype. But at some point in time,
you got to slow your hype down and just talk
to us like normal and quit. If you're going to
reference this constant five technique? Did I know and you
(11:49):
know are a seven technique? Oh outside, could you do
me a favor. You've got eighteen million hours and we
really don't need to hear all the constant you know,
slot and over a couple of players that don't deserve
slobbered over but may deserve respect. Draw it up once
Savan have the dog on, you got all the highlights,
(12:10):
Have Booger McFarland stand up at a tellustrator like Saban
does and tell those show those people with a five technique,
it's it always bout oh Man a great cover two corner.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Well, what does that mean?
Speaker 7 (12:20):
You mean the guy can't play man and he needs
a guy over the top to protect him. Tell us that,
and don't. I mean, you're not talking to me and
people who watch it all the time. You're talking to
people who are like trying to figure out. Ninety percent
of the people on did watch that draft have zero
idea what a five technique is?
Speaker 6 (12:35):
Zero?
Speaker 7 (12:36):
And to me, that's horses ass teaching. And I know
I'm getting off the beaten path, but you got four
hundred hours explain it. Just tell why instead of telling me?
And you got to stop with this mid six oh man,
this guy on my board was the second round town. No,
he wasn't. He was a sixth round draft pick. You
might have had him grated higher than the other, but
(12:57):
he didn't have him graded four hundred players higher. That's hyperbolic.
You get my point. That's just frustrating with all the
time everybody's great, No, no they're not. If a second
rounder fell to the fifth round, why instead of telling
me that the Cleveland Browns are full of it they
didn't draft them sooner, or that some team for passing up,
why did they Why pass up on Josh Simmons? Why
(13:17):
pass up on whoever? And like Man or a receiver
or Golden or somebody and everybody. Oh long, great motor.
You could prove him inside or out, said, great five
technique guy, But can come inside? I heard that four
hundred times. That may be the case. But explain it
to people. Teach us, see to me the draft. Teach
us why because most people ninety nine percent, even the
(13:40):
guys who do a mock draft, even McShay and Kuyper,
they wrote notes from Do you really think that they
went and watched the two hundredth player in this draft? No,
forty seven hours, even with all the time you had
before the draft. No, but they got too much. You can't.
You cannot singularly cover it. You just can't. So, and
(14:01):
I know it's all hype, but it's to the point
where there's another level to this draft, of okay, instead
of all these guys suck. Maybe you could go through
and tell us what might be going on in these
guys' minds. Why shit door fell to the fifth round?
Is it sheer talent? Probably not? Is it You're concern
as we talked about of a helicopter Dad. Maybe is it?
But then again, diance held in high regard by most
(14:22):
of the NFL, So is that it? Or is it
the fact that once the first round in it and
you saw him start to slide, You're like, I ain't
getting involved in this. I'll make it a late round
pick it and we'll just see how it goes. Cleveland
already drafted record, they drafted a second one, so if
they went by their board, they said, he's the best
player on a board, we're gonna draft him. Great competition,
and I loved how Shador Sanders responded to that, like
he was excited to go and not pouting. We'll see
(14:43):
how it responds. But we made him the story of
the draft, and it was. But what if thirty teams didn't,
then two teams did. Thirty teams had him as a
third rounder. Forth see the hype of the pre draft
stuff made everybody think. Social media made everythink everybody's got
a first round great on because some reporter reported it.
What we don't ever know is the conversations, for the
most part, to go on in behind those closed doors.
(15:06):
Why there's a few things that I can guarantee you
or not. Why they didn't draft him. The color of
his skin had zero to do with this, zero to
do with it. Why zero to do with it? Because
it's the most absurd thing. There may be race going
on outside buildings or somebody has it in their own,
but when you draft a player, I assure you they
(15:27):
don't sit there. They didn't get thirty two teams on
a zoom call and say, hey, man, I think we
should just collude against should let's not draft him. If
you're the third round to you said, well, he makes
my team better, I have to come up drafting that.
I'm sorry to say. When it comes to race, it
just doesn't happen. Now, well, what about the Kaepernick thing, Well,
you go visit. I don't know why, but I know
that they didn't get on a phone call for Shador Sanders,
(15:49):
who's a good kid, doesn't have any off field troubles.
Could it just simply come down and maybe he didn't
fit for them for some now, whether it's they didn't
want to deal with the dad or the helicopter, what regardless,
I get when I hear that, it makes it's not
only a lame excuse, it diminishes what real race is
about football. People in the building want to win, and
I can't imagine a coach or a GM, especially when
(16:11):
you're Andrew Berry and you're black, or you're Mike Tomlin
and you're black, or you're Cam Warred who got drafted first.
This isn't about it. You're looking for the best football
players that provide everything. And maybe the headache for some
was too much. Maybe they didn't want it. Maybe they
liked when I hear about how his meetings went that
that's concerning head said on that bothers me and it
would bother them. So whatever the reason, And then that
(16:32):
snowball goes and you're like, we were all shocked you
went the fifth round. I wasn't shocked E didn't going
the first fifteen picks. And I really wasn't shocked E
didn't go in the first rounds. We talked about Friday.
Then it starts to go. You think, then teams are like, damn,
remember I said on price and when a player starts
to drop, teams will see it gets into the second round.
Now you're like, WHOA, I'm a little nervous here. I'm
a little nervous about why do you get out of
(16:52):
the first round? But we got to stop the lazy
air and a really important thing about race that NFL
people with incredible mix of different race, gender religions, they
did not get on a zoom call and say let's
collude to keep shood or standers out of the first round.
Now they're saving a lot of money. It's competition all that,
but in football for the most part. Now, I'm not
(17:14):
saying it doesn't exist. It didn't exist in this case.
There's whether the whatever the extenuating circumstances are, it wasn't
because of the color of his skin. We got to
stop that lazy narrative, and it's it's it's lazy. Now
some may have it, but as an overall group, I
mean overall, the NFL is not a racist league. It's
just not. It's not. So how are they so so
(17:37):
all of a sudden in the fifth round you're not racist,
but you were in the first when you didn't draft
somebody like that. No, no, no, it doesn't work. There's
other reason, and we may not like the other reasons,
but there are other reasons, and it ain't it isn't that.
We got to stop that because when a real race
issue presents itself and we're sitting there. It is diminishing
exactly what it's supposed to be. I don't think that
(17:58):
the New Orleans States up there and said, you know what,
we're gonna draft a white quarterback over a black quarterback.
They felt that Tyler show give them better chance to
win for whatever reason. You may not like it, but
they did so. It's crazy, but that's not the story.
The efficiency of the Texans give them a chance. They
also know that they got a great chance to win
in this division, or they wouldn't have traded out of
(18:20):
the first round. They got was best for their team.
Speaker 6 (18:22):
Yeah, a lot of the storylines you used through out there,
we'll throw out as the course of the show goes.
But then, you know, you just mentioned the Texans right there.
That's a good starting point for us this morning. Because
a clear plant put forth over the weekend. We'll discuss
that here Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 7 (18:38):
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Speaker 9 (18:40):
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Speaker 1 (18:45):
Back to the Sean Salisbury Show on Sports Talk seven.
Speaker 7 (18:48):
Ninety back to back right there.
Speaker 6 (18:51):
Two guys after your own heart, well one of them
at least, Jalen Smith playing at USC his entire career.
What he marks is is a Mississippi State guy. I mean,
I know that he did well for you guys last year,
but he made his bones in Starkville and finished it
off at US Scene, had a really good season, But
still I think of him as a Mississippi State guy.
(19:14):
And then you get Jalen Reid, the safety out of
Penn State, Graham Mertz possible backup Keyante Hamilton, defensive tackle
out of Rutgers who I don't know much about. And
then Luke las Shay, a huge body tight end out
of Iowa that probably is being brought in for a
chance to be another huge blocking up body up there
(19:35):
to try to give c. J. Stroud some protection when
he is out there on the field. But all in all, though,
I mean with this group, I mean it seemed like
there was a strategic approach when it came to the
receiver position, Go get the guy that can be the
compliment to Nico Collins. The pro comparisons are Nico Collins
when it comes to Jayden Higgins and for Noel, that
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to me signals very clearly you're not seeing Tank Dell
this season.
Speaker 7 (20:01):
I think that Tank del thing the second you got
through diagnosis of his injury, how serious it was. I
don't see how you could have counted on him anyway.
Speaker 10 (20:09):
They know that.
Speaker 7 (20:10):
And it's not to say that Tank Dell's not coming back.
I don't know how good Tank Deal's going to be
coming back. None of us do back to back injuries
in seasons, and this one was more devastating than the first.
And everybody knows how hard he works and would grind
he I mean, he goes to work, but sometimes you
I mean, you don't know what the end result is
going to be with this, so you had to protect yourself.
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And I think they're they're hoping for, as is him,
not only one hundred percent recovery, but you're going to
be a better player, that's what you're hoping. But you
also have to do what's the best for the team.
And they needed depth there and they needed some guys
that could come in and get it done. And they now,
you tell me that wasn't a need. That position absolutely
was a need, not just offensive line. So and you know,
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if the DNA matches. I didn't watch his son play much.
I know this. Iowa tight ends are pretty successful no
matter where they're drafted at the next level. They they
understand that you got a block and their underrated pass
catchers when they get to the league because you know
that team has been so you know, when Kittle got drafted,
people knew he was a mauler, but man, did you
know he was that good with his hands in space
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and doing all the things he does in great leadership.
You know when your name team captain one year, two whatever,
it was pretty impressive. And Jim Laschet's son I call him.
I didn't even know what Jim Lache's son's first name
was until the draft, right, but his dad meaning Jim
Kid's dad. If the DNA is close, you'll make the team.
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Be a player. I mean, his old man was a
monster tackle in pro football. So we'll see how it goes.
But I thought they It felt to me also that
there wasn't throwaway picks that once you got to the
fifth round, they got guys that they still think and
you still draft him even in the seventh round to
make your team. That's why you draft him. So they
got need, they've got players, they've ACKed added compliments and
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when you lose Tank Dell and Stefan Diggs both not
only the injury, but also both playing somewhere else. That
you two, well two you're starting three. When you line
up in your three wides, guess what two of them
are gone, one's hurt, and one's out of the building
playing somewhere else. So where's he at New England Stefan Diggs? Yeah, right,
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So when that happens, you've got to answer that. That
doesn't mean that you don't think that you know, still
think that John Mechi can't be a player, or that
Christian Kirk's not going to come in. I mean, they
have expectation for him, but you needed firepower there and
they went out and got some that can make a difference.
I had no problem with the way they did it,
and I think they upgraded their football team on Thursday
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Friday or yeah, Thursday, Friday and Saturday.
Speaker 6 (22:41):
Don't sleep on the Woody Marks pick because they did
not have a pick until the sixth round.
Speaker 7 (22:45):
They traded up to get him to ing go there
you go.
Speaker 6 (22:48):
So that's telling you that there's plans because I think
that through all the conversations you've had once the season ended,
the draft process, whatever it might be that you had
Nick Assario saying we can't rule on Joe Mixon the
way that we did last year. We've got to have
somebody that can take some of the workload off of
his plate, because I mean, you know, you've only got
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so many carries, You've only got so many hits in
there for running backs before finally that wall is hit.
The Texans are hoping that wall is not here.
Speaker 7 (23:16):
Oh, there's no doubt, and you can get you can
get just as much production giving him less work, especially
if you can implement him more, which I would hope
that's part of the plan. Is mixed it in the
space pass game. I they there's a reason they went
up and got him that kid, so there's some depth.
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And then it tells you, okay, what do we is
Piers going to be here returning kicks? What's his role?
But they they are making sure that they don't get
left stranded without a guy that fits what they want
to do. I thought they were methodical and well thought
out in the draft. I did you know at times?
And this is I don't kiss the ass. If I
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thought it was horrible, we do it. There will be Okay.
Could you at the spot you traded out of on Thursday?
Could you have got a dominant player there even at
twenty five, and we won't know that until we see
what a guy like Simmons does at the next level
and how can Sidy use them and the guys that
were taken after you traded out of that. But also
you got to keep an eye on Oh, they can
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both happen on your side. Meanings you missed out on
Simmons or you passed on some good players to trade back,
and then you got players and they could end up
being special. So right now we're like, there's going to
be some say, why do we trade out of that position.
There's going to be some say, well, we're not sure
how it's going to turn out more value and overused
(24:40):
word when it comes to the draft. But three years
from now and then we can start to judge if
they should have stayed and picked and if the guy's healthy,
you'll look back. But that happens in every single draft.
Man we let that guy get by, I mean every round,
somebody's going to say, man, we let the guy behind us,
we didn't take him. That's called Sunday and Saturday. And
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there's a big difference between the two leagues of how
good you are on one day, and if stats were
the overbearing stat then we'd have a lot of Heisman
Trophy winners that were far more successful than they were
on Sunday than they were on Sundays. But I had
great Saturdays. There's a big difference grown ass Man League
on Sundays, no doubt about it.
Speaker 6 (25:19):
Speaking of the offensive line, you just alluded to it
right there. That's something that I thought came in the
focus this weekend for the Texans. We'll discuss that again.
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Speaker 6 (27:03):
You know, you look at this weekend and I mentioned
nine players were taken, six on the offensive side, and
you're saying, well, there's got to be at least three
offensive linemen in there, right, Oh no, there's not three
offensive linemen in there. There's only one aroante URSII. And
you know had somebody this morning, you know, reach out
and then say they just weren't really sure what the
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Texans plan was on the offensive line. But let me
take let me take you through what they did this offseason.
Cam Robinson obviously here not a long term solution, but
still somebody that is a good left tackle in this league,
and somebody that is not as good as the guy
that you just sent out the door, but he's somebody
that's not going to have a massive precipitous drop off
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from the guy that was there. That's one Lake and
Tomlinson another guy you got for depth at Ingram same deal.
People forget they got Trent Brown too, a guy that's
done some good things in this league, and he's also
going to be able to provide some depth for you.
So the moral of the story is is Ursery is
here with I think one of two express purposes. Number One,
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you get to camp and there's a competition between he
and Cam Robinson, and who's to say that Ersery doesn't
win the job.
Speaker 7 (28:13):
Right there at left tackle, and you say, hey, let's
go with the young guy.
Speaker 6 (28:16):
We're gonna go through the Cam Robinson and move on
cutting them, trading them, any of those different types of things,
because you're not married to him. You've got him for
one year and he's only going to be here for
one year. He knows that, and everybody knows that. So
that's where that comes in the play. And then Ursery,
I mean, what's what's the problem with getting to where
you have options on the offensive line because a couple
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of years ago you had to make trades during training
camp to be able to make sure that you felt
good about the starting five and probably even the two
backups that you carry on game day that could be
able to go out there and help protect a rookie quarterback.
Last year you didn't have that at all. You had
a group that was in disarray. This year, you're looking
to at least say, all right, if this guy's not
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getting it done, at least I believe I can count
on a guy that has played in this league and
has done some things.
Speaker 7 (29:04):
Yeah, those five guys up front. There's no and I'm
talking about quarterback wide receiver as well, there's no group
that has to be in unison and play together more
than even quarterback wide receiver because the curls. The curls
a curl of go routes and go routes to go route.
But there with all the different line calls that they
couldn't block basic stuff last year, simple simple, basic stuff,
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And when they were in the right position, sometimes they
were just physically manhandled. Simple they just weren't there. They
weren't nasty, they just they kind of just went through.
They were blah and they played like it and you
needed to disrupt that, and they did and they've moved
on from it. Of course, Urseree isn't Lermie Tunsel yet. Okay,
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that's why it's called a rookie, and you got to
wait till he starts to develop. I imagine they're going
to be more well coached, more well prepared, and more
roles defined and get people in their position. But depth there,
more more than likely you're not going to be able
to play all five all season long. That doesn't happen
very often towards the five guys, and they don't get hurt.
And other than a you know, when you got shortyard
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and goal lying or jumble person of those five guys
st it'd be great because if you do, that's great
because then the line calls and the rest of it
are in unison and they get an idea that they
can all speak for each other and finish each other sentences.
That's more important than a quarterback knowing where a dig
route is. But trust me, he knows it's it's fifteen
yard dig. It's fifteen yard dig. But there's so many
twists and turns and games being played up front. You
have to have those guys and taught well. So yeah,
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well it may not be flashy. Like I said. You
give me a Hall of Famer and four average guys
or five good players that are just solid. You can
keep the Hall of famer. Give me the five guys together. Now,
if you're fortunate enough to be on some lines I've
been on where three of them were all Americans and
three of them are first round draft picks, and in
the NFL, one was a Pro Bowl type player at
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center and the other two are both Hall of famers. Well, now,
then that's the great bonus. They don't have that here,
but to get five consistent players keep the quarterback up right.
That's obviously a priority this offseason. And they would have
drafted more lineman had they not been that active in
free agency during the off season. But they got a
guy that Aaron Wilson told us on Friday, was it Friday? Yeah, Friday,
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that they were that that was a target for them
and they got him. So they're building something. I like
the fact they went out and got you know, depth
of wide receiver, added lineman, a guy that they love,
and now let's go see what happens. Now it's how
do they fit in here? And you take that and
that doesn't matter what round you're drafted in. Now now
you've got to go be a football player and study
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and prepare. And I think that they did a solid
enough job to still keep them at the top of
this division going into the season. They're the best team
in the division still.
Speaker 6 (31:45):
The only thing that you know, you're mentioning about the
offensive line, and I mean, you have a new offensive
line coach sort of because he was the assistant offensive
line coach last year in Popovich. So if you're going
to say all of this the you know, wholesale changes
were needed and you know you need to add some
nastiness to that group. All right, Fine, he's an assistant
offensive line coach. Maybe his voice only goes so far
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at that point. But if you had all of that
and you still promote from within in the building, how
are you necessarily saying that the page is completely turned.
Speaker 7 (32:15):
Because you still have leftovers from you're talking about the
line coach. Yeah, now it's not a complete clean slate,
is what you're asking. Yeah, well, just because you're the
the assistant line coach and some guy had a philosophy
in front of you, doesn't mean you're bringing that same philosophy.
But Sair, and remember in the room you got a
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quarterback coach. Let's say you got a graduate assistant quarterback
coach or a guy that's a quarterback coach that is
an analyst. You know, I hied him. He was a
head coach, he got fired and Nick Saban brought him
as in an analyst. Does he have the same say,
even though he may very well have been a coach
somewhere else a head coach someone else got fired. Now
he's in an analyst role because he wants stay involved
(32:58):
in football. Does does that mean that he gets more
say than the quarterback coach that's there, who may be
twenty years younger than him. Absolutely not. That quarterback coach
and that coordinator get more say. So Listen, I've been
in rooms with the guys coach and in my thought
process is we shouldn't be doing it that way, and
you talk to him, we should be doing it a
different way, or you know, the quarterbacks in the room
think different than the guy teaching and say, well, why
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would you attack it that way when we could just
slide the line one way? And that guy's in our vision. However,
it is whatever the teaching, Sometimes the assistant teachers better
than the I mean, the substitute is actually better than
the original teacher. So I understand what you're saying. When
you clear house, it doesn't mean just because you didn't
clear out the assistant. Now he may have that, but
he also may have learned even a more valuable lesson
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what not to teach and what not to coach, because
you are absolutely in the building. But the verbiage isn't
going to change, so that's a help. And now you're
the guy and very well, maybe in those meetings people
sit around saying the guy the backup, I mean, the
assistant low line coach knows more and knows how to
relate to the players and teach him better than we can.
He's got a different approach. So he may have just
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been there like a good soldier all year long, thinking, man,
I think different than this line. Not backstabbing him to
the head coach, but think I think a little different.
And then he went through the interview process and they
liked him more. So I don't think it's a detriment
to say, well, guess what, man he is. He's the
same guy. He's just a different rapper because he coached
underneath him. Now, I've played for coaches that I wouldn't
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take much of their philosophy with me to the next
level if I was coaching. But I've played with some
that I take some of it, but not all of it,
And that's okay. There's some good things that they did.
So to take what's good and be able to discern
with what you got to take with you what you
got to leave behind. And that's exactly what they're going
to have to do now to alleviate and get rid
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of exactly what you're saying. Oh, this is just an
extension of the crap we saw last year. I don't
think Demiko would want that. I think he saw something
different in the teaching and approach they're going.
Speaker 11 (34:53):
To go with this.
Speaker 6 (34:54):
Yeah, I mean, you know, the time will tell in
terms of what Popovich you know, is different in in
terms of what Strasser was, and you know what what
he can bring to the group now. But I mean,
you know, you've got different faces in there now, You've
at least got at least tangible names that you feel
like you can work with. And we'll see if the
Texans can be able to find a good starting five
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with that group against seven one three two one two
five seven ninety the number to get in. But the
Astros some good stuff yesterday. Welcome to twenty twenty five.
Speaker 7 (35:25):
For this guy. We'll discuss right here. Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 6 (35:30):
The Shawn Salisbury Show continues, and it did no no
now you know, and Saturday, you know, I said that
it was two examples. It was the who meet the
new boss same as the old boss? Where I would
say that it was a little bit of a different
picture because then I said that I was paying from
the office where it was, Oh you know, it's this picture,
(35:54):
that picture, it's literally the same picture, because it really
was to nothing. You just couldn't get anything going off
in the way. I mean almost everything on Saturday was
the same as it was on Friday. Where you get
East Soak Paradis going the opposite way for a double
and you're like, what is this, Like we in the
twilight zone right here, Like, what's what's happening right now?
(36:14):
And Frombervale does though at least he was awesome.
Speaker 11 (36:17):
Where he was.
Speaker 7 (36:18):
Awesome, Hunter Brown was awesome. Bullpen did their job that
they did. I mean, you lose back to back games
two Oh can't you can't put the ball in play
at the right time, You're gonna get beat and it's
it's we could sit here and get into every single
little thing that went on. They got shut out back
to back games, even with good pitching performances. Oh was
it Wiznsky on Friday? Yeah, it was opposite Saturday Friday.
(36:41):
Frober was from for Saturday Friday. Now it was a
Nescy was Friday normally the way they pitched, you'd walk
out of those three games, uh thinking you want them
all two? Two and three or was it two? Yeah,
they got a third run and you hang seven on him,
(37:02):
a hundred browns of friggin' machine. And obviously Fromber, that
that Frombers gives you the I'll tell you what that
Fromber and that hunter Brown give you is good or
in the team picture. Maybe I should say to be
fair to like the Dodgers because their best pitcher may
(37:22):
very well be a guy who's not who isn't giving
you as much, you know what I'm saying, who hit
All he did was hitl I mean, this guy who
can throw it a hundred, you know what I'm saying,
if he focused on pitching, he'd show. Hey, maybe when
the cy young every year too, as good as he
could be. But regardless, you look around the league, Philly,
there's a lot of teams a good one too, But
they're in the team picture. When those two guys are going.
They are absolutely lefty righty when you especially when you
(37:45):
the split of lefty righty, they are definitely in the
team picture of one and two. And you've got good
enough pitching this weekend to win you did not get
good enough hitting on Friday and Saturday to do that.
So the pitching for the Astros was good. You watch
with a lugo on Friday night Friday and then walka.
Right there you go and walka. You know, started in
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Saint Louis, Boston. He's always had potential. He's a Texas kid.
If I'm not mistaken, that's exactly right. So you ran
into some good pitching. In the first two games they
matched your aces, and then in game three obviously I
take a meaning Hunter Brown three. But two of the
three games they matched your races, is my point, and
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you got the one win, and even with Wesnsky's performance,
you got to come up big. So when you go
zero zero seven, you're can only give up two you'd
think coming out of it. If I didn't tell you
anything that happens to Thursday, Friday and Saturday, they scored
two runs, and you'd say, oh, who pitched Wesnsky, And
(38:51):
frommer ball game over Sunday, you'd say, oh, they gave
up the three runs, Oh who pitched on Brown? We
won and they did, so you can break it all
the way down you want. When you don't score runs
and you this has been the problem with them, the
extreme six runs, five runs, seven runs, zero zero one.
Remember at the beginning of the season was one run,
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one run, two runs. They took him with three or
four games before they got out of that. Were you know,
we were they had a two or three run type. Yeah,
I think the plateau, yeah exactly. So it's like, when
are you gonna explode? The problem is there's two there's
not enough of those, and they just they just didn't
hit the ball and they ran into some good pitching themselves.
But when the hitting consistently matches the way we're getting
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pitching from the starters and the bullpen, for the most part,
the Houston Astros can go on a run.
Speaker 6 (39:39):
The funny thing is is the best picture they faced
all weekend was the guy yesterday boo bitch, And I
mean he was just as good as Hunter Brown has
been one four to five e r A coming into
the game. You're talking about going into the Yeah, oh,
there's no questions.
Speaker 7 (39:52):
And Jeremy Peneya said, oh, we'll see about that that
they have and we need it was nice to see
with Jordon right, oh great, Yeah, it was really nice.
And maybe that on a run and get this thing going.
But in truth, yeah, going in you're like, man, we're
facing what a matchup? Pitching matchup on Sunday, And yet
they got two good and there's a big reason why
what you saw this weekend from the Royals is and
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obviously Salvador Perez and Bobby Witchune they got some good players.
But that's why people pick the Kansas City Royals. Me
included pretty good pitching staff to either compete or win
the division or make the playoffs, right and so, and
the astro's got to look at it, but jumped on
it and got out. And then when you jump out
three four to nothing and Hunter Browns on the mount
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and another quality start to get you know what through
the sixth inning was Guy's lights out. Man and their
pitching staff is playing Division when playing Division winning baseball,
they just are. And now the hitting has got to
be consistent in match. Maybe it's time for Jordon to
get rolling after he finally homework.
Speaker 6 (40:51):
I call them penny wise for a reason, because you know,
like penny Wise, you want a balloon here, try a
bunch of them. That seems like what Jordon does when
it comes to the long balls. See if he's able
to carry that over.
Speaker 7 (41:01):
Those were the good.
Speaker 6 (41:02):
One thing though not so good. We'll discuss that here.
When it comes to the Astros. Starts seven o'clock hour
again hour from now. Steve Sparks joins us for his
weekly visit here on the show.
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Speaker 11 (41:39):
Okay, let's do this.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
Sean Salisbury.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
To usc troes, longtime friend Shawn Salisbury.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Dan Matthews host. This is the Sewan Salsbury Show. Sean,
the stash plays for Chas McCormick.
Speaker 6 (41:59):
And are you pointing out to me during the break
that Todd callus taking a little liberties with the Chazzy
Fizz nickname.
Speaker 7 (42:06):
Yeah, he did. He sat there and watching and I
wasn't paying attention to Chas Moo's face, right, and he said, oh,
Chasy Fizz, I mean he called him Chazzy Fuzz. And
I'm like, did I miss something or did TK mispronounce
it or does he know? And then as we should expect,
he's very clever and gets it and said chazy fuzz
(42:27):
because the little musk, I said, ah, it's so a
nice play on words by Todd Kallous, and it was.
It was classic. And he goes like three for three,
got three hits, and he's only had what twenty summer
bats this year? Yeah, like high teens around twenty eighteen. Now, yeah,
so well the batting average is gonna rise whenever you
got twenty some of bats, right around twenty bats and
(42:47):
you go three for three, you're raising points there. But
good on him. And it was a clever play on
words by Callous because I don't not a big nickname guy.
We joke about it. But when he said Chazzy fuzz,
I said, I swore because I I've never called him
chazzy fizz. But what he said fuzz, then you saw
the must I say, clever play by you. Well, I
mean I I don't quite do t K.
Speaker 6 (43:08):
As well as two guys that's sit in the seat, well,
one that used to your former counterpart, and also he's
the guy in the afternoon. Uh ac Adam Clanton can
do a pretty good one, but uh, Chazzy fuzz. I mean,
and and I was I always love to with TK
his two goats. Who's there's a base it he got him?
Those are those are two of the ones he goes with.
(43:29):
But no, I I noticed it when he made that
ranging catch in the right center field and you know,
they show him in the field and I was like,
oh mustache, okay, interesting look. And then the following inning
he goes up there and gets his first hit of
the day. I was like, maybe the stash is the
play for him.
Speaker 7 (43:45):
But I think chasm was all over, wasn't it. He
was he was feeling it yesterday. It was good to see.
Speaker 6 (43:49):
I mean, you know, especially to where Jake Myers had
gone on a little bit of a you know, strong
heater at the plate and he started to kind of
taper off a little bit. That's why I think you're
starting to see other guys get looks out in center
field with him struggling there. But I mean, McCormick continues this,
he could be out in the field quite a bit more.
It's the same deal with Zach Dezenzo. When Dezenzo is
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getting playing time, then you get the off day, yespisations, yeah, right,
you get the off day yesterday for Altuve, where you're saying, hey,
this guy's given us a lot of chances to be
able to win ball.
Speaker 7 (44:19):
Games, no question about it. And all right, I guess
what I'm what I don't want to see, and I
know we're seeing it at the times. I don't want
to see one hundred and forty five different lineups this year.
I just don't, which means either center fie, I mean,
the regular's got to step up and do their thing
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every day, or you got to make a decision that
you're making a switch and let that guy play as
often as you can to get reped. So I don't
I don't know what the answer is. You know, Jake
was going well, gives you great defense. He's going to
play more than anybody else's iner field, regardless if the
batting average dropped sixty more points. We know this chas
McCormick's not a three hundred hitting guy, that that that's
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not him. The more it ba's what's he gonna hit
two seventy five at his best? Maybe I mean back
to what years ago had people wanting him to play
more right and be the every day starter. Yes, so
those things, and I understand days off and stuff, but
I would love to get to the point. And and
over the years games have changed. You it was rare
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that you'd go to the ballparker watched him and at
least seven or eight of your guys weren't in every day.
I mean, I can never and I agree, you know,
I know times have changed. I don't know why this
has to change. Specialization and you know, rest matters, but
I think we overplay it, especially in a baseball and
I don't to me when you watch the Phillies and
Mike Schmidt, no group, but David he was an every
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day George Brett was in the line of you know
when I say every day one hundred and fifty five
hundred fifty again unless they were hurt, Mike Schmidt, George Brett,
I mean here say Sarcedania and Bob Watson, whoever it was.
I just and I know when talked to Joe Aspota
that rest matters, but that he didn't want to have
one hundred and forty five different lineups this year. But
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as long as the outfield, the fluctuation and young and
veteran and somebody's not doing their thing regularly, you're gonna
see a bunch out. The reason you do this is
either one you're overprotective or two you're underproductive with starters.
The only two reasons you do it. Overprotective meaning ooh,
played nine games in a row, Gotta give him a
rest even though he's going good, which I don't subscribe to.
Speaker 3 (46:25):
I just don't.
Speaker 7 (46:27):
The ball's not heavy, and either is FOURD bats not
a long walk to the plate. That's just my opinion.
Now for catchers works different in a night day game.
We've talked here, So for me it's just it's one
to two. It's either overprotective injuries that you can put
that in a parentheses, or underproductive. That's why you have
a million different lineups and to me not a fan
of it.
Speaker 6 (46:47):
Well I remember, I mean you and Brian a time
talking with Joe has spotted there at FanFest and he
said it as much. He was like, I don't want
to do what we did last year. I want to
have as consistent as a group going day in and
day out as we can.
Speaker 7 (47:00):
Well do we know the metrics on that? Yet there's
many games in how many different lineups we've had. No
ross might but I don't know. I wonder I'm sure Baseballavan,
Oh yeah, we could find it. I just wonder how
far we are. The optics, you know, may be different
than the actual metrics of the of what's going on.
They may have had their lineup in you know, eighteen
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of the games, and but even if it's just seven
or eight of the guys, I understand that you're gonna
you know, Cam Smith's gonna come out, Decenzo's gonna move in,
or Al two B is gonna go to second base,
you're gonna get Yordan on and left field whatever, But
the same, the same, you know, characters doing their thing.
And you know, we're not anywhere near being at a
(47:42):
point where oh this is who they are. I mean,
we're not close to sixty games in yet. But I'm
just a guy that, once you decide who the starters are,
unless they play their way out of it.
Speaker 6 (47:50):
They play every day, well, I mean a guy that's
playing every day but just continues to be one step forward,
two steps back. Christian Walker, man, he it's just it's
it's almost painful to watch some of these at bats
right now from him.
Speaker 7 (48:04):
So are you are you thinking that there's there's controversy
budding there no.
Speaker 6 (48:12):
No controversy. You're gonna You're going to let him work
his way out of this. And by the way, too,
the comparisons with Josea Bray, you there's no comparison. I mean,
even with him not reaching what we would hope to
see at a Christian Walker, right now, it's still much
better fielder, a guy that you still believe can give
you a much better at bat and won't particularly get overmatched.
(48:35):
But right now it looks mental at the moment, like
it what else it looks It looks like there's a
lot of mechanics that are going through his mind when
it when when he's at the plate at this moment,
because I mean, Sean, he's missing fastballs that I'm like,
he shouldn't be missing those.
Speaker 7 (48:50):
I can tell you this, I'll just I'll just apply it.
You know, sometimes we lean on people and may have
seen it a little different. I love people's you know,
and put on stuff that maybe, oh yeah, that's right,
you saw it that way. Just let me tell you
from my point of view, at playing the quarterback position,
you can be going good and your mind has no
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clutter in it and you're like, I'm not doing anything
different than when I was going back boom and just
all of a sudden, whatever it was, it changed. A
flip of the mental part. I can tell you this,
a flip of the mental changed you for the good
more than a flip of the physical. I'm just telling
you you don't forget how to hit or throw when
you wake up one day. Now when you're ten, you're
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watching different guys and you've got eighteen different stants right
at the plate because you're like you see your favorite players. Oh,
I want to hold my hands low. I want to
be a high hands guy. I want to be a
batwaggle guy. I want to open stance. I want to
close my step. Oh, yes, you're impressionable, right, but as
you get up, you know I'm not changing my arm
slot ten years into my NFL career, right right, And
he's not changing more than likely the stance and the
(49:56):
way where he holds his hands and his feet whatever.
Open closed. However, being a guy who's in his mid
thirties and has played some pretty good baseball in his career,
so what happens is you're going through success or you
come out of it and think about the factors that
come in, and I'm not making an excuse for him
at all, regardless of your forty or twenty new team
high expectations, especially with the focus and the hyper sensitive
(50:19):
place at first base has been a hack position here
for the most part, since I'm not saying the guys
are hacks. It's tough to play Bro Baseball. But it's
been a week a glaring weakness since yearly left. You haven't. Yeah,
you have not had a viral first baseman since twenty two.
You may have had a viable one, but the young
guys are not playing, or somebody else on that could
move positions place, you're not playing that position, right, So
(50:40):
you've struggled, and especially on the offensive side of the
ball or offensive side of the plate, should I say,
or when your team's at the plate. Yeah, So when
you have when you go through that, what happens is
you can have all these years of success and I
know this quarterback and all of a sudden, I don't
know whether it's the yips on the putting green or
you throw three picks. I had a four pick game
once in my career, and it was against Seattle. One
(51:02):
of them was turned for a touchdown. Had I have
belabored that point. The next week, I think we came
back and I can't remember who it was, but going
you know, we played good footballer any time you have it.
But I know the feeling of my mechanics didn't change
what's going on here. What happens is you grip the
ball a little harder. You go, you strike out three
times a game or two times to throw two picks,
and you're like, okay, this has got to be mechanics, right, No, dude,
(51:27):
you just made a bad decision. Were a little late.
Maybe you were late setting up in the pocket, maybe
you didn't see it, you were looking at something, watching
the path, whatever it is. And next thing you know,
you've thrown three picks and you're like, okay, I got
to change things for one game, dude, when you've had
all the success the week before you were the player
of the week and three for four hundred yards, or
in the week you hit two home runs, whatever it is,
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it is the mental You're one hundred percent correct. This
isn't a Now if all of a sudden you look
at alls we got to do. Is put as side
by side of when he was raking and when he's not,
and I'll bet you the difference take that much. Sure.
So what happens is you get into that mode of all, okay,
you get into the mode of it's got you think
it's physical, but then the mental grind. So you're squeezing
(52:08):
the sawdust out of the bat and you're trying to
do things slight adjustment with your front toe. If somebody
comes you, like the hitting structor, say dude, it's all
your hands are six inches lower than they were when
you were having success. Let's just work on that in
the cage. But it gets to this point where for
me and watching seeing that it's easy for a guy
who had that success even as a veteran, you get
into it in the mid you're like, man, the mental part,
(52:31):
and then what happens is the mental part starts to
skew the physical mechanics of it. So then you're screwing
both of them up right. You're saying it's got to
be physical, and so you try to change something and
then you're not. You're failing there, and what do you do.
You go back to the way you were having success
and the mental part is behind. And I'm just telling
you with guys like that that the mental part at
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quarter You think a quarterback who's had two bad games
in a row but has been had a highly successful
career just decided that he didn't know how to throw anymore. No,
the other team's getting paid, pitchers getting paid, and you
start to do it, and you start to do things
that are uncharacteristic mentally, which changed things. It didn't need change.
All you needed was a deep breath to realize a team.
(53:13):
You're putting a littleressure on yourself because he knows the
dynamic that was here. So that's from my vantage point.
Maybe Steve Sparks can give us an idea, but he's
trying to pull too much. You sat there and watched
the home run by the Dias. That ball was away.
What do you do instead of yanking it androlling over,
the guy pumps it to right center, right field in
homers and he smoked it. Da is if he mentally
(53:36):
lets it get in the way from the way he started.
He pulls that ball and it's a it's a ground out.
So it happens, and all it takes is one or
two of those to get into it. But for me,
Christian Walker, this is a mental thing. And then all
of a sudden it affects the physical. I think mental.
In my position, it was never I couldn't throw or
I was smart and do all that. When I got
behind or didn't play well, it was simply one physical
(53:59):
miss then led to mental clutter, which then made three
or four mental mistakes, and instead of getting rid of
the rear view mirror, you said, oh, I got to
change other things, when in truth, it was just, dude,
just make the right decision to trust with you, and
then you start to then you don't trust yourself. Yeah,
and that's all mental, which leads. I don't think it's
the opposite. I don't think the physical leads are the metal.
I think it's the mental that affects the physical. Then
(54:21):
all of a sudden you adjust on the physical and
you didn't really need to, and you're adjusting in the
wrong spot. It's misdirected approach to hitting or however you're doing,
or a quarterbacking. In my career, I can tell you
now I could throw it with anybody. When I got
behind or when I wasn't playing my best. It was
allowing one mistake to catapult you into three more without
getting out of it. Quick to me, if I told
(54:41):
an athlete, the greatest thing that you could ever do.
I don't care what sport you play. Get over the
good and the bad equally as quick because neither one
of them lasts that long. Yeah, they just don't. Now.
The guy that can get over the quick bad or
the bad quickly and gets back into the good. That's
we call consistently. It's the old It's never as good
(55:02):
as it's, never as good as it seems. It's never
as bad as it seems. And you mentioned Sparky will
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Speaker 6 (57:01):
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avoid the sweep seven three win yesterday in Kansas City
against the Royals Tigers next in Town Rockets Game four
Western Conference Playoffs, trying to avoid going down three to
one to the Golden State Warriors and the Texans take
nine players over the weekend in the draft.
Speaker 7 (57:44):
Well, Sean Bill Belli, nobody had a better weekend than
Eugenio though he didn't. Nobody did. Yeah, nobody, no draft pick.
Gene Swarez, Yeah, Geno Suarez, Jene.
Speaker 6 (57:54):
Yeah, man, Eugenio got you gotta put respect on a
good Geno. I was always lucky to whatever. Yeah, somebody's
name Gene. I called him Gino. Dude, how many every
guy's name is? Jean's gotta be Gino?
Speaker 7 (58:06):
And is it like Geno Atkins g E n O
or is it Geno Orima or even the G E
n O g I n o. Oh you said there's
a e and then there's the yeah yeah yeah because
the quarterback Miami, Yes, Tretta Gino Tretta Ja Tretta was
an I n O. I'm pretty sure teammate of mine
(58:26):
at least in training camp his rookie year, and we
were roommates. I love Gene. Uh see Genos, Geno, you
call him Gene. If he's Geene, you call him Gino.
Tradid great dude, man, I loved we had some good times.
He but Suarez that a weekend. Man, he did well
a weekend. No, he had a week in one game
the Bats going to the Hall of Fame. Four homers,
last one was J. D. Martinez, same team as you
(58:47):
heard my guy Steve Bertham on the call, last on
the play by play for the Arizona Diamonbacks. But four
and none of them were they were all no doubt
or so. He had a really nice month in a
game so good for no wallscrapers. Yeah, there you go
back to your football.
Speaker 6 (59:04):
Yeah, guy that people thought was going to be here
in Houston but still there in Arizona. But yes, Bill
Belichick used to have to get ready for the draft.
Now he's trying to get guys ready for the draft
as the head coach at North Carolina. But Sean, we'll
get to yesterday's CBS Sunday Morning interview that everybody's talking
about in a second. But I mean, just to kind
(59:25):
of the timeline of this go back of you know,
we find out he and young Jordan Hudson are together.
Then we're finding out that Hey, if you guys send
me anything through an email, would you make sure that
she's copied on it, because you know she she's got
part of this, and then we get the footage from
spring practice. You know, basically out there almost kind of
(59:45):
looking like a director of football ops, which that's kind
of inside baseball for some people, but she looks like that.
She's almost like a stage manager out there trying to, like,
you know, move everything along. Well, it continued yesterday on
CBS Sunday Morning, Bill Belichi sitting down and let's just
say that Jordan, Well, it started to annoy the interviewer
(01:00:06):
how much she was micromanaging.
Speaker 7 (01:00:10):
Jordan was a constant presence during our interview.
Speaker 11 (01:00:13):
You have Jordan right over there.
Speaker 7 (01:00:16):
Everybody in the world seems to be following this relationship.
They've got an opinion about your private life.
Speaker 9 (01:00:21):
It's got nothing to do with them, but they're invested
in it.
Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
How do you deal with that?
Speaker 11 (01:00:26):
Never been too worried about what everybody else.
Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
Thanks, just to try to do what I feel like
is that's for me?
Speaker 9 (01:00:31):
And what's right?
Speaker 11 (01:00:32):
How did you guys meet not talking about this?
Speaker 7 (01:00:35):
No, No, it's a topic.
Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
Neither one of them is comfortable commenting on.
Speaker 7 (01:00:41):
Why we're not talking about why? It's it's a simple story.
It's it's it's a simple story. That's all it is.
Speaker 6 (01:00:52):
Or maybe if there is some sort of story that
maybe you don't want to share with people, well then
both get.
Speaker 7 (01:00:58):
On the same page and fudge the detail. It's not
that hard.
Speaker 6 (01:01:02):
How did me and Megan meat Well, we met in college,
but then a few years later I slid in there
her DMS and the rest is history. Now I know
that sometimes sliding into the DMS is not the way
to go, but for this one, obviously it worked.
Speaker 7 (01:01:14):
Yeah, if you don't shoot the shot, you ain't got
no chance to make the hoop man's Uh. Bill looked
a little raggedy. That's hard he did. Listen. I understand
he likes to wear sweatshirts and cut off sleeves, but
at least any interviews in the past, Belichick has been
he'll put a suit on her. You know, he never
looks really, I mean, he's just kind of a I
(01:01:36):
always see him and my visual is him is in
a sweatshirt with a hood. Yes he is.
Speaker 6 (01:01:41):
He's a savant because, like especially in science, savants they
you know, oh hey, I'm kempt up, because they're so
smart that all of those things elude them. I don't
even think about.
Speaker 7 (01:01:50):
It in watching that and seeing what we talked about
on this show too, about her walking around the back
of the endzone and practice. She's on the field in
white Go Go boots at North Carolina. Now listen, is
it a little odd for a guy in the seventies
to be dating a twenty four year old? It feels weird.
I don't know what the conversation consists of. That they
want to TikTok videos together. I don't know how much
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conversation you have. I mean, I'm sure she in the
sheets makes him happy. I guess I don't know, but
that's not my business. I really don't care who he dates.
I don't but and it's really none of our business
until it becomes your business in interviews and you saying it.
Then we got to speculate, well, why how'd you meet him?
And really no matter how they met, I don't care,
(01:02:35):
in truth, but it makes it even more we're gonna
ask it more now that we're like have to decide, Oh,
we're being secretive here. Did you meet on some dating site?
Was it a setup? Was it just like it said
you sign me. I've read a bunch of different ones
where signed her book on a plane that she was
on with you, and she asked questions and she and
then it led to something else, or she was nineteen
(01:02:57):
when they met. Apparently he read that too. I don't
know how much you know what I'm saying. It's all
over the place, and this is what happens when we
don't know the answer. I don't care. I think it's
by this ay, when you're at his age. I don't
think you're running into a bar trying to pull a
twenty four year old, but maybe you are. I don't know.
I mean if and if the twenty four year old's
wild enough to fall in love with you fifty years
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younger or forty five years younger, then they both it's
not just a him thing. It's a her thing too.
It's weird. Bill's more than likely fifteen years older than
her parents, more than likely at least seems weird. But
that's not the part that bothers me. It's just like,
did she cut his balls off? And I mean did
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he get emasculated? It's something is going on. This is
this guy, like I said, not even that she's twenty four,
but the way that the twenty four year old's running
his show. I mean, I understand that part of that's undefeated. Yeah,
I get it. But if there's one person you think
that he just said in the v of it, well,
I've never cared about what people think, and hence why
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he may be dating it two twenty four year old.
I think she's twenty four, mid twenties, whatever it is.
But it's the way you see on the practice. But
she literally have you ever think about all the years
Bill was there, nobody else got to talk the media.
Bill was a face, the voice of that organization. Coaches
don't get to go speak to the media on it
every given day certain times when they have to be
told other than that, Josh McDaniels wasn't doing an interview
(01:04:21):
when Bill was there, unless it was for a head
coaching job or at an event where you had to
be able to that the medium. You know that the
NFL makes some Availa. Sure, Bill dude, I've covered him
four years and been in that building. I've never seen
him to the point and maybe you get Kinder and Jitler,
but I've never seen him to the point where you
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show up five minutes late, he may send your ass home.
She's just walked out there and is running the show.
I mean, is she going to when they come home,
Bill going to say, well, what do you think about
we played three four defense this week? Well, we're not
playing three four defense. She tells him, Well, it didn't
look right and you should hear what they're saying. Go
fix this. It felt weird during an interview for her
to look at Bill Belichick. Can you imagine a player
said that to him while he's playing, right, I I
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just like I said she maybe they may have the
greatest relationship in the world. I have no idea. I
don't it would be odd communication. But the whole thing,
I almost feel like she stripped him, Like she's come
in there and said here's the way you're going to.
Speaker 6 (01:05:17):
Do things, and he's allowing it. The house is coming
across like a hostage situation.
Speaker 7 (01:05:21):
It's also coming across as if she's got and she's
got she's got a pair of good of scissors about
to cut his good emasculated his ass. It's weird. We
don't want that, and I know, but it feels like
that if she says we're not doing it, then the
interview is over. I'm asking that question. Imagine it was
kids feel right now like his kids probably have to
(01:05:42):
be like, dad, what do you do? All kids are
far older than she is, right, Yeah, I listen and
I never listen. It's like I don't get in people's wall,
and I try not to, you know, immerse myself into
somebody Else's why they're sure, why they're why they're I
think we got a pretty good idea.
Speaker 6 (01:06:00):
So maybe why the young one likes him and why
he likes her, Oh, we can understand.
Speaker 7 (01:06:06):
I mean that's I get a pretty good idea that
I don't know the depth of their love or the
depth of their lust. I'm not real sure, but I mean,
maybe she woke up one day and say, I see
him on TV every week coaching I'm in love with
Bill Belichick. And then maybe he woke up and says,
she fulfills my conversational piece. I don't know if that's
(01:06:28):
the reason they're both dating or they did. They're gonna
end up getting married if they do, or what have you,
but prenup would probably be in place. I'm not saying
it won't work. They may, but if Bill lives twenty
five more years, she'll be in her forties. Now I
want you to just stop down. Now, I know I'm laughing.
(01:06:51):
You're live twenty five more years? Yeah, which would Hell's
Belichick seventy three seventy four. Sure, let's just say he's
in his early seven right, if she live, if she,
if he lives twenty five more years, which takes him
to pushing one hundred and God bless him, he may
he's so stubborn. He may live till he's on undred
and forty. Good, But when he lives twenty five more years,
(01:07:13):
she will be in her forties. And I want you
to stomach that for a second. So I'm not sure
what the conversation is, but I do get an idea
of maybe why she initially he's attracted to him, and
now they may fall in love and grow from it
like a Hallmark movie. And I understand why. I don't
think he actually got on that when, however, he met her.
I don't care where it was. If they're not talking
(01:07:34):
about it, it means that it wasn't normal. How you know,
did meet at the friggin grocery store?
Speaker 9 (01:07:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (01:07:40):
Okay, they didn't. They didn't meet there, Okay, I don't
know wherever. They didn't meet there, and they didn't meet
at church. So other than that. I'm not sure, and
I probably think the initial conversation, I'm not sure Bill said,
you know what, we could talk a world history together.
Oh I'm sure he probably thought that's impound take delivery
(01:08:00):
from Sarah Lee. Okay, but they make her going to love.
But it's just the interview was odd, and it's an
odd relationship because I've never seen Bill Belichick from a
distance or in the building to have somebody his own
Hall of fame seven time super Bowl quarterback couldn't control him.
This looks to me like You're going to do it
my way and I'm going to be the general manager
at North Carolina or you ain't getting this stuff. Oh
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wait a minute, honey, I only date you because the
conversation and I love Bill, I do, but it looks
extremely weird.
Speaker 6 (01:08:32):
I can understand the attraction from his side, and I
understand what he is, but from her side, I mean,
can you really be enjoying Maybe he's a love maker
not a banger man. Thank you whoever that was, because
that was my thoughts exactly, like, come on.
Speaker 7 (01:08:50):
Listen to you guys, all this stuff. Why don't you
guys just put it? We're say the truth. He loves her.
She loves him.
Speaker 6 (01:08:58):
I mayfatuated with her. There's a major difference, trust saying
the L word might not be loving. We've all had
to we've all had to learn that lesson. Sometimes you
must be throwing that voodoo thing all over him. Though
it happened.
Speaker 7 (01:09:12):
He's on a trip on his boat and all of
a sudden that voodoo dog gets stuck. That means, get
your ass home, Billy boy.
Speaker 6 (01:09:18):
Oh man, he's he's he's definitely, he's definitely that with
the bandwidth is he like to throw out there?
Speaker 7 (01:09:27):
His bandwidth is very short right now, we'll just leave
it at that. Well, let me just put it to
you this way. He he loves her, I'm sure. But
once again, it's it's undefeated, man spoken completely undefeated. Last
time in twenty five years. If Bill lives twenty five
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more years, she will be in her forties. I'm sorry,
Steve and the other son and then Sun later, I'm kidding.
Speaker 6 (01:10:00):
Maybe, you know, sometimes we do have you know, the
young Calf, We do have that situation, you know, allegedly, allegedly.
Speaker 7 (01:10:12):
I don't think it'll happen. Bill loves her and she
loves him. That's what I'm going with I'm sticking to
that story.
Speaker 6 (01:10:16):
You go with that, Sean uh speaking of sons of coaches, boy,
embarrassing doesn't even begin to discuss. Would see you right there, Brandon,
see you guys there. Get to you all on the
other side here As the Sewn Salisbury Show continues. The
Sewn Salisbury Show continues, Wood, Good morning, what's going on?
Speaker 7 (01:10:41):
Wood?
Speaker 12 (01:10:42):
Yeah, I don't want to talk about love.
Speaker 9 (01:10:43):
I'll tell you what I love.
Speaker 12 (01:10:44):
I love my football. I love the draft, but I
don't love Nick Caserio. This is the one sided love
affair going on right here. I don't understand what you
got against the number one draft pick last year. You
give up my number one draft pick, you get a
second round, you give it to Buffalo but deed, then
you get Digs on a three year contract. You negotiate
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with him, and.
Speaker 3 (01:11:07):
Then next thing you know, we don't have him.
Speaker 7 (01:11:09):
He's a one year rental.
Speaker 12 (01:11:10):
Then in the beginning of the draft. But even before
the beginning of the draft on thursd shiit, I mean,
I get an alert on my phone that we that
the texting Native trade. I see you gave up a
fifth round for a sixth and or seven next year,
Wait away, I'm worrying about summer rounds. Think that man
keep the drown pick. And then I'm sitting up here
just looking at everybody come off the board in the
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first round, directing my chop, trying to see whom we
gonna get in the first round. Next thing, you know,
this Rofsku think he's so smart, but he ain't that smart.
He ain't got no common sense. And the GM's that
threw out the league just as smart as him. They
sitting there looking at the phone. Go here, go nickla
Serio detectives calling, or we can fleece him. We can
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get his number one pick, and we ain't got to
give him number.
Speaker 13 (01:11:54):
One pick back.
Speaker 12 (01:11:55):
Everybody else who give up a number one pick at
least get a number one pick back, except for us.
If we give up a number one pick once again,
and the next thing you know, here it is he
jump in. I'm like, come on, Nicklasio and y'all talking
about y'all think he's gonna put an offensive line together.
With these hands being coming from other teams, I don't
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have no belief in him keeping here. Five years Davis
Mills was running for his life the Fort two years. Now,
we're gonna have a ce that running the next three years,
running for his life because it ain't gonna be no
difference this year because that offensive line they putting together.
I don't have no faith that wasn't nickas Areio doing.
Speaker 7 (01:12:33):
Hey, let me ask you, whatever, who did you want
to take at the first round pick?
Speaker 12 (01:12:39):
Hey, damn picks in the first round that come up? Okay, Yes,
you can still get you a barter five defensive taco
because we still need.
Speaker 3 (01:12:47):
A hog in that middle.
Speaker 12 (01:12:48):
Because everybody realize right now, you win in the trenches.
If you can't get that guard or the taco had
the pick that you want, you still got some good
defensive tacos right in that area there. You can get
somebody that can make a difference on your team for
the next five years. Because that draft pick we gave
away last year, now it's gone. We don't have nobody
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to say we could have had somebody for the four
or five years on that. He's giving away players that
we can use for four to five years. On other
players that we got the hope paying out to be
something because a receiver in the second or third round,
those are pretty much projects that got to get acclimated
to the NFL. It normally take them two to three
years to get up and running. I'd have seen it
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time and time again. It's a rare occasion where you
have a receiver coming out that's gonna come up and
it's gonna start right off the back and let you
get him in the first fifteen.
Speaker 7 (01:13:41):
Pis Hey, you know what would And I love your passion.
I do, and everybody has a I mean, I think
there's a lot of people that are going to echo
your sentiments. As far as white trade out, why not
draft a guy? They've been pretty successful draft wise, But
if you look over the course of time at receivers,
you're gonna see that a lot of guys not drafted
in the first round are better than the ones that were.
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I mean, I can roll through a bunch of them
right now. We could, we could go we could go
through a lot of players. Was Nicula first round pick,
Cooper Cup, DeVante Adams, Stefan Diggs was here first second rounder.
I'm trying to remember. I mean, you could wait, we
can go through I get your point. But in true
now there's some first rounders of the Jeffersons and the
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Jamar Chases. There wasn't that guy available in this draft.
But but I get what you're saying. But you be
shocked if you really, if you look deep, how many
non first round wide receivers are impactful and quickly. So
that part I get, and I understand you want. I mean,
I think we're gonna have to deal with Well, what
if Simmons turns in to be a player in Kansas City.
You deal with it. But we can only trust their
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due diligence because that offensive line was horrific last year.
They were They were a detriment to the team. To me,
in any movement in all is an upgrade. And I
would have traded Tunsel too. I would have done the
same thing.
Speaker 14 (01:15:00):
I rid of Talent for because he was the one man.
Speaker 12 (01:15:02):
He was on alan Byo himself not a part of
the team on the offensive line. So you want that
offensive line to be a unit together, I understand that concept.
You had to get rid of him so you could
piece the unit together. But at the same time, the
pieces that were putting together, there are better pieces we
could have gotten.
Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
Three.
Speaker 7 (01:15:20):
AGED appreciate Carlwood. Thanks Wood, I mean, I love his passion.
But when I asked that I want to I would
like to know and not with Wood. Wood's a regular
call and I love he does. He gives us great
passion when he calls in. But just my question to that,
if I was just kind of asking questions on both sides,
would be the guys they did draft. How often did
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you watch and player? I think, and I'm not saying Wood,
I'm saying overall all of us name recognition, Trump's film study.
When it comes to fans from a distance, because we'reund
the bulding where i' watched twenty five hours of tape
on the Iowa state Wide receiver on a you know,
on ursery, you've heard and seen. But they're doing due diligence.
So if we don't know enough about the guys, if
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you're a fan and don't know enough about the guys
they drafted just because of guy's a name, there's a
lot of guys that you wouldn't know that were drafted
ahead of names in this draft regularly.
Speaker 6 (01:16:14):
And by the way, to the first round pick last
year was part of the deal to trade up to
get Will Anderson Junior with Arizona. So Arizona had your
pick last year and you traded away a second for Digs.
But to your point too about Nikua.
Speaker 7 (01:16:27):
Yeah, it wasn't a first round pick for Digs, if
that's what you're.
Speaker 6 (01:16:29):
Saying, right, Yeah, yeah, it was a fifth round for Nikua,
third round for Cup, second round for Adams, fifth first
of Von Diggs.
Speaker 7 (01:16:37):
AA. I didn't think it was. Yeah. I actually thought
he was a second or third round pick. There you go,
there's four players right there, Nico Collins. What aron was?
He drafted in the third round? Happens all the time.
It happens all the time. Matter of fact, in the
past years, the first your number one receiver a lot
of times because the pressure because they can't get off
press coverage as well in college. It's different coverage that
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that come in. Young receivers in the past have struggled
on the perimeter because they can't get off press coverage.
And these guys are fit. You know, you got six three,
two hundred pounds mauling you. It's a different ballgame than
when they're playing off coverage in college. And you go, so,
I get Wood's passion, But once again, grade's coming out
of this draft mean nothing to me. The grade means
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something to me. At the end of the fall or
even I get the passion wanting not to give them away,
but I always judge it after I see it.
Speaker 6 (01:17:28):
Not that before or even two years from now. I mean,
that's that's when I think you can absolutely say, all right, hey,
three years will usually be the full judge. Right, Yeah,
there you go, so yeah, not immediately after, but I
mean we all fall for him. Oh, Texan's got a
B plus awesome, Dennis Brandon, see you guys right there,
don't forget about fifteen minutes from now, Steve Sparks joins
us for his weekly visit. We'll continue here Sean Salisbury Show.
(01:17:53):
The Sewn Salisbury Show continued. Brandon, Good morning, Brandon, Good.
Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
Morning, Dan, Good morning Sean.
Speaker 6 (01:18:03):
How are you good?
Speaker 7 (01:18:04):
How are you man?
Speaker 3 (01:18:06):
Okay, I'm blaying my game?
Speaker 7 (01:18:08):
Okay, how's it going good?
Speaker 3 (01:18:11):
I'm gonna win this game? Sweet?
Speaker 7 (01:18:13):
That's that's a good way to start the week. What
you got on these astros?
Speaker 11 (01:18:18):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (01:18:18):
What do you want?
Speaker 7 (01:18:19):
That's it? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (01:18:20):
How about Jordon at a home on? Yes, it wasn't
a cheap e either, Brandon, Yeah, for sure. How do
you think how you feeling about him going against the Tigers?
Speaker 9 (01:18:34):
Hey, a j Hans is in our park and we
can beat him.
Speaker 8 (01:18:38):
There you go.
Speaker 12 (01:18:38):
I like.
Speaker 7 (01:18:39):
I like the way you're thinking there, Brandon.
Speaker 6 (01:18:41):
Hopefully the Astros can get this homestand started off on
the right foot. Got Jack Flaherty tonight though he's he's
been pretty tough.
Speaker 3 (01:18:50):
Yeah, there we go.
Speaker 2 (01:18:51):
We can get him out of here quickly.
Speaker 7 (01:18:53):
There you go.
Speaker 6 (01:18:54):
Well, like I said earlier about Jordon, usually these things
come in bunches with him. So hopefully he's starting to
get into a little bit of a groove here. All right, buddy, Okay, Brandon,
we'll talk to you later.
Speaker 2 (01:19:08):
Bud'll get him pitching.
Speaker 6 (01:19:13):
Uh tonight, I think it's is it Blanco tonight? Let
me look this up. Uh, but uh, it's Jack Flerty
though for the Tigers. Do know that for sure?
Speaker 2 (01:19:23):
Yeah, it's Bronco.
Speaker 6 (01:19:26):
Yeah it's yeah, it's renewe Blanco against Jack Flherty. So
it'll be a good one.
Speaker 2 (01:19:32):
Hey, we can get this one with Bronco.
Speaker 7 (01:19:34):
I like it. Yep, no doubt about it, No doubt
about it. We'll talk to you later, I Brandon a.
Speaker 11 (01:19:41):
Man.
Speaker 6 (01:19:43):
So yeah, the Astros with Tigers coming in, that's gonna
be a good series. We'll obviously talk about that with
Steve Sparks, but uh, you know it's gonna be funny too.
I know that people are going to say, oh, revenge
for last year. It's an early season series against this team,
and well there's diferent players on both sides, so I
don't really think that that necessarily comes into play, but.
Speaker 7 (01:20:04):
I would agree for sure.
Speaker 6 (01:20:06):
All right, Dennis wants the way in here before we
get Sparky and Dennis, what's going on?
Speaker 15 (01:20:13):
Happy Monday morning? Fellas make a comment on the Shador
Sanders Shdor Sanders draft, and I, you know, I fell
sorry for the kids sliding it down like that, but
the league made a statement. The statement was, no one
player is bigger than the shield and their stating event
and the interview process. What you can do off the
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field leadership is all.
Speaker 16 (01:20:36):
Just as important as what you do on the field.
What perplexed me the most is seeing like mel Kiper
and these guys analysts are saying, disgusting the NFL was
for letting this guy slide. It's your interview process is
just as important as what you do on the field.
And give to the tons of money to a guy
who acts like a jackass. And interviews poorly and eat
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guys terribly. So I felt bad for him his hid time.
He kind of got what he deserved, and I think
he even admitted he said he handled the draft process
man Sean. I also wanted to get thought of Sam Hall,
the Mikings traded for him in mid round.
Speaker 7 (01:21:14):
I'll hang up a listen, see you guys. I appreciate Dennis.
Your ears were not deceiving you. It was to save me.
That was two different dudes talking at two different times.
Speaker 6 (01:21:23):
I thought like, maybe it was like dateline right there
when we actually got Dennis's real voice, of like voice distortion.
Speaker 7 (01:21:30):
But no, we we finally got the real Dnis. I
thought was our caller playing a cut from somebody.
Speaker 6 (01:21:37):
I was wondering too, like I was like, is this
gonna be a prank? Do I need to be on guard?
Do I need to just dump and then just keep
it moving? But no, that was that was our phone system.
Speaker 7 (01:21:46):
I think Sam Howe real quick gives you a veteran
that's young, it's got some experience. I can tell you this.
I've talked to his many at times. I've had conversations
with his former offensive coordinator at North Carolina many a
time about what kind of player he is, and I'm
telling you he loves him. He can throw it, he's tough,
he's accurate. He gives you so, he gives you some.
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He's got some invaluable experience as a starter. And you know, Washington,
you know he's had to make the decision to move
on from him a couple of years ago because of
Jade and Daniels right whenever it was. But Sam Howe
gives you experience at a lesser price. Who was a
guy if you remember the year Spencer Rattler and him came,
We're supposed to go and they were both supposed to
be first round picks. They both fell in the draft.
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But Sam's tough and and high football IQ and that
shows a guy who's been sitting in who sat in
a room with him on a regular base. I love
the choice for the Vikings. Now think about this. They
let Darnold go, they brought in Sam Howe, and they
didn't they didn't, you know, invite Aaron Rodgers into the
building that.
Speaker 8 (01:22:51):
Out of time.
Speaker 7 (01:22:51):
Sound like the doors closed on that though. That's what's that.
It doesn't sound like the door's closed in Minnesota. Yeah,
I disagree. I I they. I'm just telling you they
love Love McCarthy, absolutely love JJ McCarthy. If they didn't,
Sam Darnold would still be a Viking. And they love
a guy who hadn't taken a stap in an NFL uniform.
(01:23:13):
And now, well that I'll put it this way, you
tell me you wouldn't be shocked after what they did
with Sam. Hellf Aaron Rodgers is still there. I don't
know if he upgrades the building right now, considering you're
not sure if he's committed. I don't know how all
in Aaron Rodgers is on football, do you that's fair question?
He's all in.
Speaker 12 (01:23:32):
Right now?
Speaker 7 (01:23:32):
If he's still contemplating it. Are you getting all of
Aaron Rodgers' best today? I don't think so. Now it
may still because I know how good the guy is,
But I can't roll into a season with the guy's
eighty percent committed at that position. It's not good enough.
And at his age, he's not good enough to only
be eighty percent in. I'm just telling you he's not.
And I think the Vikings have spoken a low you
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hadn't got to get. What are you gonna do? Add
another one to the building, McCarthy is your starting quarterback
when you open this season, and Aaron Rodgers are not.
I'm just telling they love it would be. They would
have had to take a major fall from their belief
in JJ McCarthy in shorts and a T shirt this
offseason to go get Rogers now if you got him
at a cheap price and say, well, JJ can wade.
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He's under our umbrella for another four years. Okay, I
get it, but I think it's illogical for us to
think now with how they're Sam how is an underrated player.
He may not be able to sustain being a top
end starter for you, but I can win a bunch
of games with him like you could with Teddy Bridgewater,
like you could with Josh McCown. And he's a younger
version of those guys now at their stage of their
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career when they were hit their best rolling on and
Sam Howe gives you some game, I'm just telling you,
and he'll be a great teammate in the building. Not
the ego that gets in the way I should be starting.
He knows McCarthy's a starter, but it's not going to
stop him from competing, and that's important. So I like
that as far as Sanders goes. Yeah, the prank on
sur Sanders was Bush League. I don't care by the
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twenty one year old son and Jeff Olberg. We'll get
to that, but complete Bush and that's a fact. But
the other side of it is all the other stuff
that goes with it. He's the lead on Sports Center
this morning and get her on their shows this morning.
Yeah you see, so I listen cam Ward, I can't.
We've talked less about him than we have anybody. I've
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never seen a top pick in the draft talked less about.
And he's better than Shador Sanders. Yeah, he just is.
He's a better player at least going in. Who knows
what the team you're on, but he's a better player
at this stage.
Speaker 6 (01:25:27):
Well, not much talk for sure, but we will get
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Steve Sparks for his weekly eight o'clock visit every Monday,
joins us now after three in Kansas City. Steve, I'll
tell you what pitching on both sides. I know that
the Astros got to him yesterday. But man, live if
you if you if I told you that the pitching
was going to do what they did over the weekend,
you wouldn't have said one and two correct?
Speaker 11 (01:26:39):
Correct?
Speaker 10 (01:26:40):
No, But I think that the pitching for the Astros
is going to keep him in most games all year long.
Speaker 11 (01:26:45):
They've been that good. I mean, they're as good as anybody.
Speaker 7 (01:26:49):
Yeah, Steve, I expect the one two guy. Steve, I'm
trying to go over my mind. You know, you think
about the one and two, especially lefty righty in a
lineup fromber and Hunter Brown. I'm not sure in a rotation.
Put it this way, if they're not one or two,
they're in the team picture when it comes to the
best one to two front line guys. When we see
what we did, Hunter Brown's been like that all year.
(01:27:09):
From were a little up and down, but we know
when his stuff's good. I mean, we had John Smoltz
on here raving about him. He said, I love him,
he said, but I may even love Hunter Brown a
little more. They're at the top of the league. When
it comes to one two punches in baseball.
Speaker 11 (01:27:22):
I agree, And you know, Hunter Brown might be picture
of the Month.
Speaker 7 (01:27:24):
I agreed.
Speaker 10 (01:27:25):
His stats stuck up with anybody in the league right now.
And he's been doing this for a while now. It's
been since May first of last year. He's got the
best era in the American League.
Speaker 11 (01:27:36):
So it's not a flash of the pan, and we
can all watch and just understand that the confidence is
through the roof.
Speaker 8 (01:27:42):
Now.
Speaker 11 (01:27:43):
He's kind of a bully with his fastball and I
love it.
Speaker 12 (01:27:46):
You know.
Speaker 10 (01:27:46):
It reminds me of JD and his Aday, just going
at guys and just daring them to try to make
contact with either one of his fastballs, the two seamer.
Speaker 11 (01:27:54):
Or the four seeder. But one of the hardest throwers
in baseball. You love you everything about what he brings.
Speaker 18 (01:28:01):
And I say this all the time fromber If he's right,
he can tell you he's got, he's got three pitches
that he could tell the hitter what's coming, and they
still not make very good contact at all.
Speaker 11 (01:28:14):
They might just hit a hit a ground ball and
get you.
Speaker 10 (01:28:17):
A double play, and he could tell you what's coming
because of the late turbulent action on all of his pitches.
Speaker 7 (01:28:23):
Steve last year at this very time Hunter Brown struggling early,
and you'd come on here and we asked about it,
because there was that time we missed a start, and
there was there was even the tackles he going to
get sent down to get right. And I remember you
saying on this and said, what is the mechanics? And
you said, it may be just as simple as taking
the inner part of the plate, challenging people inside. And
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it's almost like, I'm not whether he listened to you,
but he should, I mean, but it's almost like that
that that mandate to himself or from somebody who was like,
all right, I'm gonna do this, and his whole game
turned around. His whole game has turned around since, and
now we got him as one of the elite pitchers
and base ball. Is it just as simple as that,
Steve to turn it around?
Speaker 11 (01:29:05):
It is it really is. But I mean, there's a
couple of things. I don't know if you remember this too.
Speaker 10 (01:29:10):
But Verlander said, hey, man, go back to sugar Land
a couple of years ago, find your best two games,
and let me look at it and see if there's
anything different.
Speaker 11 (01:29:18):
And he found something. Did I tell you this?
Speaker 10 (01:29:20):
No?
Speaker 11 (01:29:22):
Okay, So he said, you used to. He watched the film.
Speaker 10 (01:29:26):
He said, hey man, you used to kind of drift
toward the right handed batter, step toward him and then crossfire.
He said, all your pitches looked like they were a
little bit more lively back then. Why don't you Why
don't you just kind of inch over just a little
bit to see what it feels like.
Speaker 11 (01:29:41):
And he did, and he's kind of inched a couple more.
Speaker 7 (01:29:44):
You're talking, right, Yeah, maybe you did tell us this.
You're talking about words on the stride, gotcha? Okay? Yeah.
Speaker 10 (01:29:51):
So he's going across his body now, so he's not
stepping straight toward home plate. He steps across his body
and it keeps him clothes longer, and it's fill. It
makes that two seamer right and a little tighter. But
everything else just explodes out of his hand. And a
lot of credit to him.
Speaker 11 (01:30:07):
You know.
Speaker 10 (01:30:08):
I read an article not too long ago talking about
his off season program and how much more flexible he is.
And I ran into him during batting practice the other
day at Dyking Park and I said, hey, man, you
can do a back back bend. He goes, you want
to see it?
Speaker 9 (01:30:22):
I said, yeah, So.
Speaker 11 (01:30:23):
Behind the dugout, you know, we're in this little tunnel area.
He gets on his back and just forms a perfect
backward c and he's flexible, like you cannot pin him.
Speaker 10 (01:30:33):
If you're trying to wrestle him and trying to pin him,
he's going to get off of his shoulders because he
can bend out of that position. So he's done a
lot of work, you know, and he's flexible. He bounces
back start to start. I'm not sure if I've seen
anybody this year being able to bounce back and have
his A plus stuff every outing. That's really hard to do,
(01:30:54):
by the way, and he's a different guy. I hope
he's a picture of the month.
Speaker 11 (01:30:59):
He deserves it. And he's starting to get a lot
of note rit And you hear.
Speaker 10 (01:31:03):
Other managers talk about Hunter Brown, and most of these
guys are saying that's the best arm we've seen this year.
Speaker 7 (01:31:09):
Yeah, he's pretty filthy Steven, It's obvious. And now he's
into that mode where the confidence I feel like he
goes out there is thinking, I'm giving you six no
matter what, You're not gonna be able to touch me. Yeah,
Steve with the meddal with him last year, you know,
Christian Walker. We see this all the time. People go
through struggles, new team, it happens, and then they alive
whatever it is. For the reasons, Well, the chicken or
the egg thing? Does physical effect mental more? Or does
(01:31:33):
a mental lapse? I almost feel like the mental lasts longer,
but that the physical is why the medal gets adjusted.
You get what I was like a Christian Walker's case.
You grind more on the middle than the physical or
is it opposite, Steve? What comes first?
Speaker 11 (01:31:49):
Well, I kind of go back to the part like
which comes first? Success or confidence?
Speaker 7 (01:31:55):
Right?
Speaker 10 (01:31:56):
And for me, and I'm sure you've dealt with this
throughout your career, I think you have to have confidence
in what you do to prepare.
Speaker 7 (01:32:04):
And before you even present it, right, Steve.
Speaker 10 (01:32:08):
Right, if you practice right and you believe in your
preparation and it's worked in the past.
Speaker 11 (01:32:13):
Just stick with it.
Speaker 10 (01:32:14):
That's what's going to win out over the long term.
You know, things are going to creep in your mind
when you're at the plate or if you're pitching or whatever.
But you've got to learn there's little ways. This is
what happened in my career. I think it was probably
my fifteenth or sixteenth year as a professional baseball player,
(01:32:35):
and I remember pitching at Fenway and I remember just
about to release the ball, and I remember something popping
into my head, and it was I wonder if my
family made it to the ballpark yet. I threw the ball,
and I remember afterwards just going how in the world
did that pop in my head? With thirty two thousand
people screaming right, So all it is is an illustration
(01:32:57):
of how crazy it weird your mind and what can
happen if you're not locked in and in taking care
of that.
Speaker 11 (01:33:04):
And this is what I learned.
Speaker 10 (01:33:06):
Maddox did it, A lot of great players did it.
They had a pre pitch routine. But part of the
pre pitch routine involved repeating something which is a mantra,
which is one two three words. For me, it was
I developed hit the glove. So once I got my sign,
I took a big, deep breath. I would come set.
Then I would repeat, hit the glove, hit the glove,
(01:33:27):
hit the glove, hit the glove. By the time I
released the ball, nothing else could pop in my mind, right,
not the not the base runner, not the hitter. What
was simply my tax was to hit the glove. And
that's all that was going to pop into my mind
at that point. It changed a lot of things for me.
Speaker 7 (01:33:44):
Yeah, and Steve, that'll sustain when you have that mentality
you're talking about and you're exactly right applied to football
mental grind, Yes, that because you know, you throw a
game where you'd like throw a couple picks, right, and
nothing's different your mechanics. You just maybe made a bad read,
made it, and then all of a sudden you get
into your own head on the sideline saying, well that's two.
Then you start to grip the ball, and then maybe
was it a mechanical thing, and you start to change
(01:34:06):
stuff that you're chasing a ghost and borrowing trouble that
doesn't exist when really in your mind saying that's not
who I am. It's a couple of bad pitches. These
guys are getting paid too. Let me go back to
like my golf pre shot routine, and here's how I
line it up, and if somebody coughs in the background,
I back away and get up and go through my
routine again. And the part of it of training the
mind mentally to do it isn't that, Steve, I've always
(01:34:27):
believed that that's harder to do than the physical side
I do.
Speaker 11 (01:34:32):
Well.
Speaker 10 (01:34:33):
We always understood that nero logically, that our body didn't
perform at its unless it was very relaxed, and if
we had some kind of doubt in our mind that
it just did something, we tightened up. What it's really
hard to explain that we would tighten up, we would
pucker or whatever it was. We just weren't free and
easy like like we were when we're at our best
(01:34:54):
and we're not thinking about anything. You know, people talk
about being in the zone. Michael Jordan wasn't thinking about
it keeping his elbow in when he was when he
was shooting.
Speaker 11 (01:35:03):
The basketball right right.
Speaker 10 (01:35:05):
You just you don't think about mechanics, You don't think
about what might happen or anything like that.
Speaker 14 (01:35:10):
You just it.
Speaker 10 (01:35:11):
It's very simple. You see it and hit it, or
if you're pitching, you see the glove and you hit it.
It's as simple as that, you've done all the prep
work beforehand and all the mechanics stuff beforehand, to go
out there and just let your mind breathe and be yourself.
Speaker 7 (01:35:27):
All right, Steve? You and I are Steve Sparks for
his weekly visit here at eight o'clock on Monday, ASTROS broadcaster.
Steve and I are sitting in the room and we're
watching the tape you know, of the team when you
talk about Verlin Hunter Brown. We're watching it and I say, okay, Steve,
this many games you know into the season, let's watch
this tape I'm talking about at the plate. What will
(01:35:47):
we find watching that tape from the just the offense
in general. If I'm sitting there and you're we're walking
through this and you're walking me through it, what are
you gonna tell me about the offense in general?
Speaker 9 (01:35:57):
Right now?
Speaker 7 (01:35:57):
Good and bad?
Speaker 11 (01:36:03):
I think some.
Speaker 10 (01:36:04):
Guys try to get outside of themselves and try to
hit home runs and try to pull the ball when
they don't need to. Yin Er obviously hits a ball
like a left handed pull hitter the other way, and
we saw that at Kaufman stadium.
Speaker 11 (01:36:16):
Yesterday, which is very hard to go the other way.
Speaker 10 (01:36:18):
It's a tough ballpark, so he could probably just take
something from that, just like okay, and it's previous to it.
Bats kind of led to that. We were even talking
like Man. His last two swings before that home run,
he looked like himself. You know, he stayed closed and
drove the ball to center field, flew out twice, but
he didn't let it discourage him from that approach and
(01:36:40):
he was rewarded for it next that last at bats.
So you're hoping he can build off that. Jordan's double
on homer. We're both around one hundred and ten miles
per hour yesterday, and that gives you hope that that
he can get it going. Remember last May, he had
a tough stretch last May where he had a couple
of homers and just four RBI. So he'll go through
little stretches like that and he'll carry you for three months.
(01:37:01):
So you're just not worried about a few of these guys.
And I think with Kristin Walker too, I mean, he's
averaged thirty homers and right around ninety ninety five RBIs
the last three years. I trust that When I watch
him swing in batting practice, there's no lack of bat
speed or the swing looks good to me. I just
think it's going to take a little time for him
(01:37:23):
just to get confident and comfortable in what he's doing
with a new team for the first time.
Speaker 7 (01:37:27):
Do you think do you think he feels any pressure? Steve?
With that, I know it seems like an elementary question. Yeah,
that he's new here and they've had struggles at this position,
and he knew coming in that since YULEI we haven't
had solidified first basement. You recognize that as a player,
don't you, Steve, Yes, you.
Speaker 10 (01:37:43):
Do, you know, And it's just probably swinging it pitches
he typically does not, you know, and he's getting pitched
very tough.
Speaker 14 (01:37:52):
You know.
Speaker 10 (01:37:53):
Sometimes you go through stretches where guys make mistakes and
sometimes they don't. And right now, I mean they're on.
Speaker 11 (01:38:00):
The edges of the time.
Speaker 10 (01:38:01):
I watched it pretty closely, and the pitches that when
he last last homestanding, you could start to see that
he was starting to get.
Speaker 11 (01:38:09):
It going a little bit.
Speaker 10 (01:38:10):
Yeah, then he got painted. He got painted in Kansas City.
Man Lugo and Waka those are veteran pitchers that just
absolutely painted him. And uh, you know that happened sometimes
and it might put you in another slump for a
little bit.
Speaker 7 (01:38:21):
So so those guys were pretty good on Friday and Saturday.
I mean they were pretty good a weekend, weren't they, Steve, Yeah.
Speaker 11 (01:38:27):
They really were, you know.
Speaker 10 (01:38:29):
And there's one there's one more thing I want to
talk about. It's Jeremy Payne. And you go to a
baseball game. I'm telling you, Sean, if you if you
take your kid to a game, you want them to
watch Jeremy Payne.
Speaker 11 (01:38:40):
And it reminds me.
Speaker 10 (01:38:41):
Of what a reporter asked George Brett, former Kansas City
Royal Hall of Famer, was asked about a month before
he retired, and a writer said, hey, man, have you
thought about your last at bat? You know, in this
great career? Do you want to hit a home run?
Speaker 11 (01:38:55):
If you have, you started to think about how about
a double? Since you hit all those doubles? He goes, No,
that's a good question.
Speaker 10 (01:39:02):
And I have thought about it, but no, I don't
want to hit a homer and I don't want to
hit a double. That this is what I want to do.
I want to hit a two hopper to the second baseman.
I want to run as fast as I can to
first base to show every guy on my team how
to play this game. That's that's the legacy I.
Speaker 6 (01:39:19):
Want to.
Speaker 7 (01:39:21):
From first to last bat. That was George Bread.
Speaker 11 (01:39:24):
That's exactly what he did to either too harper or
ran as fast as he could. And that is exactly.
Speaker 7 (01:39:32):
Right.
Speaker 11 (01:39:32):
But this is what Payina does every His dad, who
had a seven year major league career, taught him the
right way. Man. This guy plays hard.
Speaker 10 (01:39:41):
And if I was if I was a dad and
I took a kid to the game, I'd have him
watched Jeremy every every ab kind.
Speaker 7 (01:39:46):
Of like we did Pete Rose growing up. Right, Steve,
I watch the way this guy read that. That that's
how you're supposed to play it.
Speaker 11 (01:39:51):
Right, Yeah, that's exactly right, Steve.
Speaker 10 (01:39:54):
And he's going to play for a long time and
he's gonna he's gonna avoid extended slumps because he already
has five nfield hits this year, led the league with thirty.
Speaker 11 (01:40:03):
One of them last year. It's because of that consistent hustle.
Speaker 7 (01:40:06):
I love it. I love the way he plays. I'll
finish with this, Steve, is are they closer, Steve, you
mentioned you felt Walker's getting closer as an overall hole.
Is there a major gap between they're close and they're not.
I mean, as that gap distant or have they closed
the gap and they're Oh, they're really close to busting
out on a ten, twelve to fifteen game type streak
with the offensive guys.
Speaker 11 (01:40:28):
It's hard for me to predict. To be honest with you,
I would love to.
Speaker 7 (01:40:30):
Get the hints that you're seeing. I guess is what
I'm saying. Maybe that's the way I should ask it.
Are you seeing hints that say recovery and get back
to driving runs and driving the baseball.
Speaker 11 (01:40:40):
It was just one day.
Speaker 10 (01:40:42):
The very encouraged with what you saw from both the
Ironer and Jordan, So you get encouraged about that. You
give out two a and off day. He usually comes
back with a vengeance after those. So playing a very
tough team in Detroit. They're eighteen and ten with the
best record in the league, So, uh, you got to
get after it. Jack Flahert, he's been good, Besos Blanco.
(01:41:04):
Blanco pitched great his last game against Toronto, so it's
going to be a good series. I think the Astros
fans is be well served to get out to the
dyke and watch these games, because I think it's two
of the best teams in the American League squaring off.
Speaker 7 (01:41:18):
Steve. Great stuff, and I guarantee you you'll never hear
another story about a player, maybe until Payne your retires.
That's lasted.
Speaker 12 (01:41:25):
Bat.
Speaker 7 (01:41:26):
He wanted to hit a two hop for the second
base and run hard and hopefully beat it out. That's
the first and last time we may hear that story.
Most of us, you know, want to hit an upper
tanker and then walk off on a walk off of
say I'm done right, yeah, but I don't even remember
if my last pass was a completion or a pick
or a touchdown. But I know this. George Brett did
exactly what he wanted to do, and that's pretty cool.
(01:41:47):
Great story, Great stuff, Steve, and we'll look forward to
not only this home standing here in your calls, but
also next week on Monday, and hopefully a lot more
offense next time we talk. We appreciate you, brother, Thank you.
Speaker 11 (01:41:58):
You guys, thank you for having me.
Speaker 7 (01:41:59):
That's right, great Steve sparks no shock with but that's
why Brett played this way. Payin you plays. I didn't
realize he led the league with those thirty plus infield hits.
That's impressive, man.
Speaker 6 (01:42:08):
He should probably be remembered for those stories as opposed
to the other stories about George Brett.
Speaker 7 (01:42:12):
Well, he used to come to Julie's, which is a
bar and restaurant right by Camp was a game, pregame,
post game place that everybody went by the coliseum. George
was a and the old Bradovitch. I don't know if
you remember. The old Bradovich family owned Julie's was theirs
and the beach volleyball player Obradovich usc guy dad played
pro football. But they didn't get cheated out of their fun.
(01:42:34):
But it didn't affect George Brett's batt I can tell
you that did not. Old timer.
Speaker 6 (01:42:39):
Well the best, yep, well, one of the best stories
by Steve, Absolutely absolutely great stuff from him. Well, continue
with the Astros conversation here as the show goes along.
Also see Andy, you want to get in on the draft,
We'll do that. And also yes, get to that Jeff
Oldbricks story. All that's still on the table here. Sean
Salisbury Show.
Speaker 1 (01:42:58):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show. Sure, Sean really We're
find Sports Talk seven.
Speaker 7 (01:43:08):
Andy. Good morning Andy. How you doing all right? Hey?
Speaker 14 (01:43:12):
Sam?
Speaker 8 (01:43:13):
Dante my sleeper Dante Thornton early fourth round to the Raiders.
Speaker 7 (01:43:18):
Uh, well the Raiders were loading up. Yes they are
they they. I thought they had a good draft and
made a lot of you know, they moved around a
lot to get what they wanted to get. Value wise,
Pete Carroll did a nice job.
Speaker 8 (01:43:32):
I would put money on them making a playoffs next
year as a wild card. You know, Sean, I want
to get a nick credit, but I gotta be honest.
The same head coach that that somehow worked the elephitsive
(01:43:52):
line to be above average in twenty three was the
same cut with all those damn injuries. I mean, hey,
dirt stringers played multiple stretches in that year, and even
a rookie which is which basically was like their fourth center,
wound up playing. Uh, and that that offensive line was
(01:44:15):
way better than last year's offensive line. And they didn't
have many injuries last year.
Speaker 3 (01:44:19):
I mean they had.
Speaker 8 (01:44:20):
It was a ministruol compared to twenty three, but it
was the same offensive line coach. So you know, although
I called Friday and said yeah, because they didn't go
heavy in the first round with offensive line. You think, well, yeah,
probably the offense line was toxic. And I got to
(01:44:42):
thinking of the weekend. But that was the same coach
they had in twenty three. They got so much out
of so little.
Speaker 12 (01:44:50):
I just.
Speaker 8 (01:44:51):
It's it's just waiting to see.
Speaker 7 (01:44:53):
So what So what are you bothered by? I mean
from twenty to what do you bother? But that the same?
I mean the staff what, what's what? What's what's bothering
you about it?
Speaker 8 (01:45:02):
Well, because I want to say, we must know that
it was toxic because they didn't really go heavy all
of this line and the guys that they got in
the off season. Let's face it, Uh, one of ingram
lost his job in the middle of the year, Robinson
Jacksonville didn't want him, and then Minnesota got him, and
(01:45:22):
he didn't play all that well for Minnesota, and you know,
and and and then and then Seattle. Did I think
Thomason came from Seattle? Right, These are guys that nobody
else wanted. And then Trent Brown. You know, he's he's
a decent backup, uh swing tackle, but that's all he is.
(01:45:43):
I just I don't know, Well, it's a wait and see.
I hope, I hope they can get you know, get
out of what they think they can get out of
these guys.
Speaker 7 (01:45:55):
That's why post drafts, Yeah, how they fit in after
the draft is how I like to look at it,
because now, you're exactly right, all that draft hype and
all that stuff, Now we get down to Okay, come
to ots, what kind of player are you?
Speaker 11 (01:46:06):
Now?
Speaker 7 (01:46:06):
We got to see it. So it's all a guess
right now. Because there's a first rounder that's going to
be a bust somewhere in this league, and there's a
third round that it's going to be a starter from
day one on teams, and hopefully here that's the case
with a couple of these guys. But you're exactly right,
it is a wait and see. All the hype that's
done now it's down due to signing contracts and playing football,
and that's a different that's a different part of it.
(01:46:27):
That the post stuff's tougher than the pre stuff, I
assure you, meaning getting there and proving it on Sundays
is a lot different than proving it on Saturday and
then waiting from January to now to get drafted. All
the hype that goes with it. Now it's down to
nobody cares about what we're around. You're drafted and what
kind of football player are you? Now we're going to
see it. I gotta be honest, I kind of lost
track of where he was going. Well, that's why I
(01:46:51):
think his focus is not knowing if the bodies they
drafted are But I think that's everybody's asking that Sharston
today right now, some with a couple of multiple first rounds,
like the Giants, people are excited with Dart and Abdul Carter.
I get it, but but I understand because when the
when the when the hype of the first rounds taken
out of you trade out of it. Now we're like, okay,
(01:47:12):
should we have? Should we have? And Andy pays really
close attention to the draft and people and looking for
that hidden gem. I think that's what it goes to,
not that one guy who flashes. I think he's looking
for Will these guys be that those gems that you're
trying to find, like the thwart and that Pete got
the fourth. I think that's where it's headed.
Speaker 6 (01:47:31):
I got you, I got you, okay, I mean, look,
you can draft five offensive linemen. It doesn't mean you're
going to have a great offensive line despite what you get.
And here's concerned real quick, Dan was I think with
the veterans they brought in m if they weren't coveted
by others, why were they covered? He just took my point.
I mean it, Bingo, because you don't give up good
offensive linemen. That's the whole point. You have a really
(01:47:54):
good one, you sign them long term, and you continue
to sign them as long as they continue to play
well like that's that's how you those guys.
Speaker 7 (01:48:00):
You hope that they fit here. That's what you get.
I think the off season gets. I'm not talking about
the draft. The off season gets are short term. I do.
I think the basis of this. Maybe they're even their
best players in next year's who knows. But what I'm
saying is I think those were a fix to get
these things going to short up now one year, fixed
(01:48:22):
Cam Robinson and then break some people in here that
as they learn and play that you can get it.
I don't think they thought they went out and got
a devastating, dominant offseason guy who's going to the Pro Bowl.
I think they feel like they got more that hopefully
a couple of them can answer one call, right, And
I think that's why they're going about I don't think
(01:48:43):
by any stretch, these guys who scout people all the
time are sitting here saying we found ourselves three Pro
bowlers this offseason.
Speaker 6 (01:48:49):
I don't think they're thinking that, Yeah, I got you.
I think it's a group thing. I feeling on that
I got you. All right, coming up a little bit
of Rockets talk because something that me and Sean talked
about off the air, well, let's just say that somebody
could be running interference for the Rockets and that could
be a good thing. We'll talk about it here Sean
Salisbury show.
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The Sean Salisbury Show continued here.
Speaker 6 (01:51:04):
Me and you were just talking off air about the
Lakers Timberwolves series, then the Lakers on the brink of elimination.
I threw this out yesterday on social media that sure
as you're born, they are going to send it in
the extender for that series. The extender is Scott Foster.
They are going to Tony Brothers and Scott Foster that series.
(01:51:27):
So quickly are they doing it. I haven't seen what
the assignments are for tomorrow, but I do know who
the assignment is tonight for the Rockets. John Goebel, the
guy that e MA told go get some blinking glasses
out there in Sacramento. Bill Kennedy, Pat Frere, and Trey
Maddox are the officials tonight, so we avoid the extender
(01:51:47):
or in this case, if Golden State wins tonight, this
series is pretty much all but over. So the Rockets
have to win this game tonight to have any remote chance,
and if they do win, then home court advantage comes
back to them.
Speaker 7 (01:51:58):
Yeah, we set it after Game one. They needed a
must and they got it, and they got a great
performance offensively. Again in free throws, will they shoot where
they shoot? This is like sixty percent little less fourteen
twenty four, I think that fifty eight, and they got
beat and they scored in the nineties. Has anybody see
what one time somebody's broke one hundred in the series? Yeah,
(01:52:19):
I think it was the right time. Yeah, one time
other than the Warriors the other night. But yeah. That
My point is that the losing team has been it's
that trouble, trouble offensively, and it's I mean in both
losses for the for the Rockets, similar similar stuff, not
shooting as well as they need to and missing free
throws both of them. And this is the team that's
(01:52:41):
a veteran that they're they'll they're able to overcome some
flaws because of how many times they've seen this postseason.
I don't think the series is over by any stretch.
But you're right, you get down three to one, now
you got a problem because we know if you got
down two, oh, you man likely may not have come
back here. But they were able to get that one
here and then headed there. This is a This is
(01:53:02):
a huge, huge game. I mean it's to me, even
though it's not an elimination game, the Lakers game is
the next time they tee it up. Both of them
are very similar because even though the difference is Golden
State's KG min this before Ken Minnesota Minnesota, right, yeah,
Minnesota with the Lakers. Yeah, use in my mind here
(01:53:22):
Kim Ken Minnesota at three to one, Ken, they who
have not trapes t your very much and a bunch
of guys, well Lebron who has does this does this
is the aura of the Lakers even bothering them. They're
playing like it doesn't. Golden State presents that the overall
team with the Houston Rockets is better if you don't
make free throws and you're sent to the line that
(01:53:43):
many times you're gonna get beat, specially in their building.
Speaker 6 (01:53:45):
I believe that you can beat Golden State two out
of three times. I do not believe you can beat
them three straight times. So you lose this game tonight
that second scenario comes up.
Speaker 7 (01:53:53):
I don't think they have. I don't think they have.
I guess it's since it's not mathematically mathematically eliminated, you
put it there. I'd give the Lakers a better chance
of overcoming their series down three to one than I
would the Rockets down three to one, for the obvious
reasons of experience.
Speaker 6 (01:54:08):
For sure, well and also too, I mean the firepower
that the Lakers have offensively as opposed to what you
don't have, and that was on full display on Saturday night.
Speaker 7 (01:54:16):
You get two guys that are scoring at a rapid
could at a high clip, and Luca and Lebron, and
they are both capable of taking a series over I
don't think the Lakers think they're out of it by
any stretch of the imagination, but I wouldn't feel good
about the Rockets chances being on the road and down
three to one for sure. Let's say this is as
must as it gets without being eliminated.
Speaker 6 (01:54:34):
Yeap, now a true a Rod's never spoken Roger on
the northwest side, Good morning, what's going on.
Speaker 14 (01:54:41):
Good fellows? Yeah, I just I just kind of want
to know what the Rockets might be thinking about moving
forward in regards to maybe Jena, Jay and Green. As
far as you know, it's all about progression. You know,
the team is not going to win a championship this year.
We're just cheamed to see how far the progress went.
(01:55:02):
And in the two games where Jillen underperformed, I just
feel like, uh, you know, after after the series is done,
whether we move forward or hopefully we move forward, or
or we don't. I just want to know. I know
we just not just sit it to a contract, but
you know you kind of knows enough to sample size
to see what he's going to do, is what it is?
(01:55:24):
Or do you let your goko uh coaching experience, uh
you know, get him for another year or so to
see if he can actually develop into that guy because
right now he's just too inconsistent and I know he's young,
and I just had you just want to know what
you thought, guys, Sean, Uh yeah, just let you know
what's going on, because I kind of feel like I
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kind of know what we have, but it's just me.
Speaker 6 (01:55:49):
I'm going, yeah, I appreciate the call, Roger. I mean,
I feel like when it comes to the two guys
that you were up last offseason, Jalen and Alpi, like
Alpi is a little bit closer to being a finished
product than Jay one is. That's why I feel like,
if it came down to, all right, we can only
keep one of the two, I think they keep Jalen. Yes.
Speaker 7 (01:56:08):
The interesting thing about this is this, Jalen Green is
a stud and a star in the making. He's shown
more than flashes of it during the regular season. But
we judge everybody by what they do now, and teams
will judge them by what they do now. And you
saw in Game two what it's like for him. It's
not does he have it? It's can he apply it
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all the time? And can you make a huge difference
in a game if you're not scoring the way or
shooting the way you want to shoot? I believe that
I compared to a lot of things. Can can you
impact a game if you're a receiver and you're not
catching the ball. If you're a running back and you're
not getting touches, can you still impact the sure you
(01:56:50):
can great protection on your carries, you make them just
your presence alone makes them feel that way the hinds
Wards of the world, who blocked their way is important
to them as catching a pass. It's the same thing here,
the greatest one. And I think Jayleen Green's got every
ounce of ability you need. But the mental grind that
goes with postseason and the pressure there, it exists all
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the time. You saw in Game two this team, it's
so weird, but it's going to go where this guy
takes him right now, it's proven right in the first
three games in post seen scores they win. It's simple.
And he's had what three post He's played in three
postseason games in his career, So we're not expecting, you know,
the guy to be you know, get him his way
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to the Hall of Fame this postseason. But it's the
the major That's the way I can describe it. The
extremes both ways, he says, where you take the next
step right and you've got to bring them. You've got
to bring your worst closer to your best and meet
somewhere and that'll be the next step. And it's not
Kenny score in game eight of the regular seats, and
we know that it's the consistency and a lot of
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it's not the physical that Steve Sparks talked about it.
You think there's any question on the guy's ability and
it's not that he's lazy or any of that stuff.
We got buy in from him here Udoka did it
is can you find a way to impact a game
when you're not scoring? Honestly? Can you impact and dominate
a game when you score? Well, Sean, how's that happen?
I've seen it happen a lot of times. I watch
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Chase and Kid do it regularly. As I use him
as an example because he sticks out I and when
I was in Dallas him getting fifteen assists and fifteen
rebounds in a night when he scores five. That's dominating
the game even without scoring. Because the guys you've got
the ball to did their things. So whatever it is,
it's crazy, but they're gonna It's not like we're talking
about Lebron James. They're going to go where here, Luka Tagan,
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We're talking about a young player who's still in his
empanasy and his third play three of them, where's he
going to take them? And it's a lot of pressure.
But you know what, the great ones aren't running from it.
They're running to it. And I know it sounds cliche,
but they are. And I think he wants that. But
it's just going to be simply for him to be
able to be a consistent dominant player all the time.
(01:58:58):
He's seeing what the difference is in intense City in
the postseason, and it's been a little bit dow Jones. Right,
if he goes and plays great in Game three or
Game four, they'll they'll have a chance to win. He's
just got to make sure on his off nights that
he's still impacting the game. And in two games right now,
that hasn't really been the case in two of the
three and the two losses. Better late than never, ya,
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I don't think they had anybody score twenty the other night. No,
they had four or five guys in double figures. Nobody
got twenty points. Now, you can win games like that.
The problem is if you don't, if you're still not
shooting well, or you're shooting fifty eight percent from the
fetal the road shot. That's exactly right.
Speaker 6 (01:59:31):
Yeah, and they didn't do that, especially in the second half,
right fourth quarter in particular, as you heard earlier on
the show, Steve John Tony, see you guys right there,
get you guys involved in the conversation. I do want
to get into the Jeff Ulbrick situation, and we'll do
that here as so we continue to roll along here,
Sean Salisbury Show, Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 7 (01:59:52):
Let's go.
Speaker 3 (01:59:53):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show.
Speaker 6 (01:59:57):
You know, we haven't had a chance to get into
this just yet, but we saw a prank played on
Shadoor Sanders by the son of a current NFL defensive coordinator,
Jeff Ulbrick's son, Jackson, decided that it would be a
good idea to call Shudoor Sanders, or at least his buddy,
did you have Jackson, who's one of the guys in
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the video that surfaced on social media over the weekend,
laughing in the background as his buddy tried to say
that he was Saints GM Mickey Loomis calling Shadoor Sanders
to tell him, hey, we're picking you next right here.
And of course they didn't end up picking him next
because later on Andrew Berry in the Browns would end
up picking him, but of course that got out. I
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saw Will Compton part of the Busting with the Boys podcast.
He was not very amused by it. Seemingly a lot
of former players felt the exact same way of Hey, dude,
this is supposed to be a great moment.
Speaker 7 (02:00:50):
It's not to be joked about.
Speaker 6 (02:00:52):
It's not to you know, have things like that happen,
Like I actually do think about that of if you're
a draft prospect, you probably have to tell your friends
and family do not call me on that day, like
you do not call me because I mean, not only
are you waiting for the call from the teams, but
it's like also too, I mean, you have somebodies who
think they're funnier than they really are, who would try
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to call you and be like, hey, man, just want
to talk to you.
Speaker 7 (02:01:15):
It's like, this is not the time, dude. I had
calls early, and you know when you're expecting calls like
just to but you're watching the same draft iim watching.
I know I haven't been taken yet calling you just wait,
I'll get ahold of you when it happens. Now, his
situation was far different because where he thought he was
going to be drafted and all that. It was bush league.
It's a twenty one year old kid who thought it
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would be funny, and you're messing with somebody's livelihood, especially his. Now,
you didn't realize when you made that call was going
to take till the fifth round. That's not a prank. Listen,
that's not good. It's not wise. I don't care what
anybody says. All it's funny, it's cool. Sanders deserved it
because he's arrogant. No, arrogant or not, that's not for
you to decide.
Speaker 12 (02:01:56):
No.
Speaker 7 (02:01:56):
And the talk that the Falcons put it out that
Jeff Ulbrick that a surface or a computer was open. Yeah,
which happens continually. You're watching your study and tape and
you leave something open, and the numbers there. The fact
that the kid got it and then prank called him
and the Falcons are vehement about it. And I don't
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see Jeff Oulbrick saying, hey, yeah, call him up. I
don't see that happen. And this to me as legit
as it gets about how this would have happened, the
fact that the kid decided to do that, well, I
understand so prank, and he's apologized for it because he
was told to apologize for it. You don't do that, man,
because he's going to look back. And I'm just going
to tell you so far today, I can't imagine this
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not being this week in like the first round, this
Friday and Saturday, or Thursday and Friday not being I
don't know. I'm not judging from it from a distance,
knowing what I went through on mine and his he
fell five rounds where he thought he was going to
be taken. I would imagine to date this has been
the was the worst experience of his life football sportswise. Honestly,
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I can't have fathom it would be any anything else.
Now he was Kudos to him. I love the way
he handled it. He handled like a champ, not going
in with the decorated room, but celebrated a lot of
guys would have pouted fifth round and said, I'm he
celebrated it, and good on him. But I thought it
was bush league by the twenty one year old dude,
Those pranks are not funny. You're talking about somebody's livelihood.
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I guess the only thing worse would be to get
a call a prank call about a family member or
a kid that was in you know, somebody calling saying
that joking that you know, oh your your kids leaving college.
Whatever it is, we like what no, I didn't have,
you don't want to, or or a safety issue. This
when it comes to careers is especially the Shador Sanders things.
That's that's as bad as it gets, you know, for
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somebody to do. I think it's weak, it's tacky, it's
not funny. I didn't I didn't find it one ounce funny.
And you know the guy's going through the emotions of
up and down. Now all the other stuff. Well, why
Schador was drafted later you hear in it views that
he had headset on and was not paying attention, showed
up late. You could see why the fall and you
can see why it would happen. But I thought it
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was bush league and I thought that that kid twenty
one owes more than an apology because it was. It's
not something that anybody should have to go through, especially
when it was miserable for those two days for standards,
and some of it self inflicted.
Speaker 6 (02:04:19):
Yeah, his son has apologized and some of the falcons too,
and they've given an explanation of what happened. And you know,
I've seen a couple of different things from this. So
I've seen one of, well, why why does Jeff Ulbrick,
you know, have that just wide open at his house
because he's at his house with people that he's supposed
to trust to know exactly what his job is and
to probably also understand the paranoia of his job. So
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you don't, you know, try to tread on that a
little bit. But the other one, too is I understand
the low hanging fruit with the falcons twenty eight to three,
all of these other things, but to blame the organization
for this, I think is a bit of a stretch.
Like this is obviously a knucklehead kid who thought that
he was going to be funny and came across some
information that he was not supposed to have, and then
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they probably had had a few pops and decided, hey,
we're watching the draft just like everybody else.
Speaker 7 (02:05:08):
Hey let's mess with shador. I've got his number. That's
what happened, Not Dan, It's not funny. There's I didn't
find one thing about it funny. I just didn't. Oh,
it's just joke. It's like a comedian. No, it's not.
You're now you're messing with somebody's livelihood who's at the
lowest of low's when it comes to nobody more shocked
and bummed than him, Shador Sanders. And to get that call,
and to call that early when everybody was speculating that
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the team that was going to draft him was the
New Orleans Saints, Come on now, I mean not everybody.
That's not fair people. Some of the people in the
media speculated and mel Kiper's head damn near exploded this
past week and unbelievable. But I just don't. I don't.
I think it's weak. And you're right. If I can't
go to my house and leave a computer open when
you got kids around and you're worried that they're going
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to do it, then that's a home problem, not in
an Atlanta Falcons problem. And I'm sure Jeff Ulbrick made
sure his kid knows that, uh, he's going to barbecue
his ass because it makes Jeff look bad. And all
Jeff did was probably he might have gone up and
went to the restroom or what. I don't know what
he did. But this is a twenty one year old
kid in the TikTok era thinking it's funny to get
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clicks and pranks and then then to put it on.
He thought it was going to work in his favor,
and he probably thought that shed Neerth Sanders was going
to get taken by somebody or a little lower not
out of the first round, five rounds later. Yeah, it's
not funny. In an apology, well, I guess it'll have
to be sufficient. Let it be learned, Let it be
a lesson learned that you don't mess with somebody's livelihood
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like you might as well have gone in and stole
his money at his house and stole all his jewelry
and everything, because you basically, you know, put a pit
in the guy's stomach thinking, oh my gosh, this is
going to be the greatest day. I am getting picked
in the first ten picks, and then bam, this happens. Nah.
And that that's and it's not a Jeff Ulbrick thing.
I don't know how he's raised him, but I imagine
fairly disciplined, i'd hope. And it's not an Atlanta Falcons problem.
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It's a kid problem that thought it was funny in
that clips and likes through everything everybody gets and thought
the reaction was going to be different, and he got
hammered for it and should and anybody that thinks it's
funny hasn't been in that situation. There's nothing funny about it.
Speaker 6 (02:07:10):
Yeah, he's probably not going to be invited with dad
to go to work anytime soon.
Speaker 7 (02:07:13):
I wouldn't hire him in a football office at least
now he'd have to go through a little bit of
a purgatory to figure out what am I going to do?
If he wanted to be a football guy, I'd be like, Okay, well,
there's gonna be some things you're gonna have to do
to make sure you can gain that trust back. It's
just I didn't. There's a lot of things you could
have done that were funny. Get into somebody's career like that.
And if you want to go online and do a
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video saying and they know it's Jeff Oldbricks, somebody's going
on saying, you know what, I've watched a lot of
college Colorado football. I don't like his game or man an.
Then that's his opinion. He's a twenty one year old
g I think he's twenty one right, can make his
own decisions. Yeah, I completely one hundred percent. It's not
being all how dear, you know he's he deserved this, now,
Shuder Sanders didn't deserve one ounce of that phone call,
not one ounce of it. Now, if you want to
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critique his approach to the draft and all that have
at it, you don't do that, man, You just don't
do that.
Speaker 6 (02:08:03):
Yeah, And you know the other moral of the story
is there. Like I said, you know, you got a
buddy of yours that's waiting on a call text, don't
call text? How about just wait till he calls you. Okay, Yeah,
that's fair too. That's better on draft day.
Speaker 7 (02:08:14):
You just thought it'd be like somebody him calling you
when you're sitting in an interview and you forgot to
turn your ring. Hey, what's going on? Man has the interview?
Ye dude, I'm in it. Yeah, I'll tell you what
I'm done. I was gonna say, bother man with his
livelihoods on the line. That's you know, it's it's it's
like announcing things like let them announce it. It's not
your announce that's exactly. It's not your shine, it's not
your tie, not your flowers. Damn it. I agreed people sometimes.
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good morning, Hey guys.
Speaker 19 (02:10:26):
I noticed the last part of the game of the Lakers.
When I say the last part, I'm talking about it
when it was one sixteen, one thirteen. And I also
noticed that Luca and Lebron didn't take the shot. I
know it's a three point shot, but I I'll tell
you Lebron Michael Jordan would have taken it unless it
was a plan play in the finals with Kerr Paxton.
(02:10:48):
But I want, I want y'all to talk about that.
Why why the two big guns didn't take the shot?
And I'll hang up and listen all.
Speaker 7 (02:10:55):
I appreciate the call.
Speaker 6 (02:10:57):
I mean, the only thing I could have thought of
is I think they leave they were gonna get fouled,
is what I saw, because it looked like Julius Randall
I think, tried to foul Lebron before he dished it
off to Austin Reeves. So that's the only thing I
could think of. Yeah, I of course you you draw
it up for one of those two. I mean that's
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and what how many minutes they play? Forty six each? Yeah,
both of them put a lot of them in Magic.
Johnson made a comment.
Speaker 7 (02:11:25):
Now, the question is, is a guy who's that involved
with the Lakers questioning his head coach's decision to play
him as much as he did. It's never a dull moment. Yeah,
no doubt about it. Listen, do I believe that there
was fear not to take the shot?
Speaker 11 (02:11:40):
Now?
Speaker 7 (02:11:40):
Whatever? Whatever plat I wish, I wish I had an idea.
I don't think JJ Reddick dials up a play. It's
going to go through those two and then they're going
to do with it. Like Steve just said, I don't
think the play was dialed up when Chicago called it
for Michael not to get the shot. I believe it
was also the Jordan's awareness though if I can't get
the shot, I'm going to give it up, so Craig Hodges,
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Jim Paxson, Steve Kirk can knock it down. So whenever
you do that, listen, they come over the side. I
think everybody in the world knows the two guys that
were going to facilitate it, and when you don't get it,
you're hoping that another guy can knock it down. So
I don't think they draw it up. You know, you
draw it up to hope that a third option gets
that shot, and it turns out that way sometimes, and
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you've got to give the other team credit, you know,
brilliance in the first four games to have themselves in
this position right now, up three to one. So the
Lakers are going to look back and say how to
well if if the situation creates itself next time. But
you know, awareness and when when your star gives it up,
there's a reason. And you know what's been questioned about Lebron,
which probably isn't fair. It happened the inability to close
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out stuff like that. At times He's closed out plenty,
But when he doesn't take the shot, guess everybody says
he's not twenty three. And I understand the disdain for that.
But sometimes a game situation is most of the time,
in truth, games situations drawn up on the side, whether
it's basketball or football or even baseball, it doesn't usually
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end up the way you drew it up. Sometimes it
does and it's like this is our day, But a
lot of times it doesn't. So it's what you do
on the fly and under duress. And unfortunately for the Lakers,
this is a loss they'll take and may not get
them through the series. Now, as Minnesota leads at three
to one, Oh.
Speaker 6 (02:13:30):
Come on, Sean, I can specifically remember when Stee when
Jill Jackson drew up a play for Judd Buschler, absolutely.
Speaker 7 (02:13:38):
Never gonna happen. Now, Michael kicks, I mean Michael drives
and kicks the bushelers standing up for a mid range
for a two pointer great or knocked down a three.
But those are few and far between. Notice there aren't
too many drawn up for Bill Winnington or Luke Longley. Right, well,
let me tell you this what happens if a shot
gets knocked down in the situation with the Lakers. Now,
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what are we saying, brilliant design? The design when the
third or fourth guy has his hands on the ball
at the end of a game is not by design.
It's a it's a oh don't shoot it. Oh yeah,
you should not by design? Yet, if I can't trust
Steve Kerr to knock down a spot up when I'm
kicking it out, I'm twenty three and they're and they're
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collapsing and doubling me. Then you're, in essence playing with
what Pip and Jordan and Kuk coach at times. Right,
you got to have to have those guys knock down shots,
and that's what they're paid to do. And in Jordan's
case and with other people, it happened. But you're never designed,
I can assure you when if Minnesota is in the situation,
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who do you think they're dialing up to play for Anthony?
And then you're going to decide on the way what
you're gonna do. In in Oklahoma City, gilges Alexander starting
with the basketball or you're getting it to him in
the rotation and then we'll see how he does it. Now,
if you've seen enough evidences, here's how they played the
star at the end of a game, then whoever you're
two or three guy, you can spot up and hit
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it getting his spot and get the ball his spot.
That's up to the facilitator with the ball in his
hand to his side. But it rarely looks like the
way you want it to. For sure, John and Needville.
Good morning, John, what's going on?
Speaker 11 (02:15:17):
Get y'all off the speaker, man, Yes, please do.
Speaker 9 (02:15:21):
Hey, let's talk about a bunch of stuff.
Speaker 20 (02:15:25):
Let's go first. Let me let me boy, it's on
top of my head. The twenty one year old kid with.
Speaker 13 (02:15:30):
The executive or whoever. If I was his daddy, I'd
put my foot up his ass. Boy, you about to
cost me my job. You about to be you spoiled
rich little brat.
Speaker 9 (02:15:42):
You think this is funny. This is somebody's livelihood.
Speaker 20 (02:15:46):
I mean, I'm not a Sanders fan, or I'm somewhat
on the fence of a Sanders fan, But dude, you
don't do that.
Speaker 9 (02:15:54):
Man, he needs his ass whipped.
Speaker 20 (02:15:56):
He needs a good old fashioned butt whipping for his
It's just that's that's.
Speaker 14 (02:16:04):
Hey.
Speaker 9 (02:16:05):
It might cost him his job.
Speaker 20 (02:16:06):
But anyway, Texans, Yeah, Okay, Friday, I was a little
upset with the draft that morning. Okay, everything went okay.
I think they did good. They got the guy out
of Minnesota. Gonna be okay. My Pittsburgh Steelers, I don't
know what the hell they're talking about or thinking about.
(02:16:26):
We gotta have a quarterback. We're going in there with
Nason Rudolph. I mean, if anything go get I guess,
well you can't go get Cousins because Cousins just got
paid his roster bonus.
Speaker 9 (02:16:36):
If I'm not mistaken, Uh, what that came out? And
what this month, Sean.
Speaker 7 (02:16:44):
Cousins usually in March. Yeah, well we're in April, though,
I take it back here. They may have moved the
it's the the NFL year, when it starts, when it ends.
It may have been in April this year. Yeah, but
there's a certain time in the off season where that
that that NFL season kicks in and whatever that whatever
that date is. But yeah, Cousins getting paid. I mean,
I guess there's still a chance you can trade him,
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but he's getting his money because that's most of his
has been guaranteed. Hell, since he got to Minnesota and
now in Atlanta.
Speaker 20 (02:17:11):
Yeah, now on Sanders deal, This is my part on Sanders.
He did it to hisself. He did this to his
self with his arrogance and his cockiness.
Speaker 7 (02:17:20):
He you're talking about and you're not talking about the
prank car. You're talking about where he got drafted.
Speaker 9 (02:17:24):
No, I'm talking about where he got drafted.
Speaker 11 (02:17:27):
He did this to his self.
Speaker 9 (02:17:29):
He's not. He wasn't that good. He didn't do nothing.
Speaker 20 (02:17:32):
I don't care if your numbers on a friggin wall
in Boulder, Colorado.
Speaker 9 (02:17:37):
You didn't do nothing. Dude.
Speaker 20 (02:17:39):
If he didn't have Travis Hunter, he would wouldn't have
haven't even had them stats. But this is what got
me with Sanders once he finally got drafted. Do you
realize how many young men were not mentioned as the
picks were going down the line because that idiot male Kuiper.
Speaker 9 (02:18:04):
I can't believe if the NFL does not go to
the ESPN and tell him something. I mean, Kiper, you're
a joke.
Speaker 11 (02:18:12):
You are a joke.
Speaker 20 (02:18:13):
You predict you are You're a clown for sitting there
and arguing with Reese and uh, what's his name? Oh,
and then saying that the NFL has not gotten fifty
fifty years quarterbacks?
Speaker 9 (02:18:28):
Right?
Speaker 4 (02:18:29):
Who are you?
Speaker 3 (02:18:30):
Who are you?
Speaker 9 (02:18:31):
You sit in your basement in North America, Northwest wherever
and play on a computer. You ain't never jocked it up, dude.
Speaker 20 (02:18:42):
And for him to and for them to keep going
into those young men who's yes, they were in the
fifth and sixth round, but dude, they deserve to have
their name mentioned on that broadcast, but no, Kuyper had
to have his grand.
Speaker 9 (02:18:58):
Standing anyway, got out my soapbox for the week.
Speaker 6 (02:19:03):
I appreciate John, I mean yeah, I mean there was
a lot of that on Saturday too, and you kind
of get just too.
Speaker 7 (02:19:11):
Much of it. It was a joke. You can say
what we want. The NFL is not gonna do anything
to melt Kuiper if that's his opinion. And regardless of
what we're doing, they're still talking about. They're gonna talk
about They're gonna talk about Lakers. They're gonna talk about SHIRER. Sanders.
That's we're gonna do on television. You knew this was
coming down the pike while we all had me. I
thought it was an embarrassment on Thursday night that the
number one pick of the draft was mentioned less. It
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was he was an afterthought and he's the best player
at his position in this draft, and there is a
gap between him and the next guy. There just is. Now.
Whether that happens to translate to the NFL, we'll see,
a lot of things have to happen for a quarterback
to be successful. But I and Sanders, you know what,
A lot less pressure on him now you're a fifth
round pick, You're no hurry. Cam Ward's gonna have to
start from day one. Pressure falls on him. All that,
(02:19:55):
but the fact that that they couldn't get off into
the most talked about player in the draft was a
fifth round pick. It was was they they were They
were wrong with that. But you know what they're getting
out of it, exactly what they want. You're talking about it.
We all are still and we'll talk about it to you.
You're going to talk about it until end of the fall.
Speaker 3 (02:20:17):
I all.
Speaker 7 (02:20:19):
I'm talking about they will. And the second throws three
completions in a preseason game. Why didn't we draft him?
That's what they're going to say. He's got, He's got
and I hope it works out for him. Anybody that
roots for his failures, it's it's it's weird to me.
Sure you don't have to be a fan of his,
but to to root for yeah, I love it when
he slides, Well, he's arrogant, he got humble pie, and
he's gonna have to go to work. And now the
(02:20:40):
real stuff begins. This is where the real stuff begins.
You're getting a huge body, your fifth round pick. Now
you've got to go win and make the team so.
But their coverage of it was quite frankly weak. It
just was they they understand what the clicks are doing.
Look on social media. Look how many cam Ward mentions
(02:21:01):
and look how many I mean, just it's the way
it is. But you know what, Choudour's got a lot
of work to do to get back and win some
people over because thirty two teams passed on him for
one hundred and what forty three picks. Yeah, and whether
it's about talent or something else, he's got some proven
to do because a lot of people, if you think
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he's gonna make your team a lot better, you draft
him sooner. That's their thought. We may think different. I
was telling you what they're thinking, and they didn't collude
thirty two teams on a zoom call not to draft
him until the fifth round.
Speaker 6 (02:21:32):
This is why I watched the game day coverage. This
alone was why because I was like, I don't need
to hear mel Kiper yelling at me. I don't need
to hear any of the other you know, just overly
football terms and all of these things to make yourself
sound smarter. I just didn't want it, and I didn't
need it, and I didn't care for it.
Speaker 7 (02:21:49):
And I like Mel a lot. I always have me
enough work I do now. It was a lot of
hyperbolic stuff, and I know he's built himself aunt beneath.
He's gonna built a great career. He didn't need to
do some of that, I mean, but he was fired
up it. But it was almost you would have thought
it was his kid, that's it felt like he was
like that. There was a vested interest in Colorado and
Dion and Shdor Sanders. It was weird. I don't I
(02:22:10):
understand your passion, but we didn't let go constantly. I
can tell you this. As much as I like Mel,
there are people in the NFL know a lot more
about the position than he does.
Speaker 6 (02:22:24):
I'll just leave it at that. Well, and some people
might have lost a lot of respect for him too
over the weekend. For how hand, it was a grand standing.
It was misplaced displaced rage and for what for what?
It was almost as if it was It was weird
to me and I liked Mel, but that wasn't it.
And I just thought it was Thank goodness of Rhys
(02:22:45):
Davis has some sense and to get this thing back
to normalcy and Reese does, but Mel was in it.
It was a weird, a weird couple of days watching
because the undertone was it didn't matter what anything else
was going on.
Speaker 7 (02:22:59):
Hey, this Wider Years draft?
Speaker 10 (02:23:00):
Did you have?
Speaker 7 (02:23:00):
But what about your door? Sanders? It was out of hand.
Speaker 6 (02:23:03):
It's just some people pick weir weird hills to die on,
and Mel definitely did. Tony Mark John see you guys
right there, get you guys involved in the conversation, but
also too. We love it when these guys lose, especially
the way they lost. We'll let you hear it next
right here, Sean Salisbury Show.
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Speaker 11 (02:23:54):
Who's Who's Shaw. He's the wise eternal judge who sits
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Speaker 9 (02:23:59):
Here's the five stay on all disputes.
Speaker 1 (02:24:02):
Back to the Sean Salisbury Show on Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 6 (02:24:07):
Rangers and Giants were yesterday where it's a two to
two game and you've got the Giants up their final
at bat. Eli O Ramos leads off the inning and
then all hell breaks loose because that's exactly what happened yesterday,
and oh so sad for the Rangers.
Speaker 3 (02:24:24):
Promos is one for two, that's just one to third,
and he tells you down the ready, Bill l Rathers
is on the ball and he is gonna start.
Speaker 7 (02:24:38):
No, now, he's gonna go to third.
Speaker 3 (02:24:40):
Here's the three.
Speaker 5 (02:24:45):
This game is over. The Giants winning the game at
a little league home run.
Speaker 7 (02:24:52):
Tell me you've seen that one before?
Speaker 3 (02:24:54):
Well, that says, by all, the sun was ten years
old and.
Speaker 7 (02:25:00):
And you can get it right. That's it.
Speaker 6 (02:25:03):
So Ramos taps it just to the left of the mound,
right towards third base. The pitcher gets it. Mind you,
he was a lead off hit or the inning there's
no outs, so the pitcher decides to play hero balls.
Luke Jackson just absolutely uncorks it down the right to
ten feet easily.
Speaker 7 (02:25:18):
Easily.
Speaker 6 (02:25:19):
I mean the runner was crossing the bag when the
ball would have possibly gotten there, like maybe it was
somewhere around there the first base. The decision to throw
it it was atrocious. Yes, it was terrible and only
to be met with more atrocity at that point.
Speaker 7 (02:25:34):
Compound one with another.
Speaker 6 (02:25:35):
That's it was Jake Berger, the first baseman, deciding, Hey,
I'm gonna play hero ball here. I'll get him at
third base. You're not gonna get him at third base.
Balls by him?
Speaker 7 (02:25:43):
What a burger? Yeah, yeah, it was. It was a
bad one. It wasn't a good one.
Speaker 6 (02:25:48):
It was the one that Luke Brown told his his
clubhouse that they should make a bunch of sports riders eat.
Speaker 7 (02:25:52):
Yeah, that was. That was a great call on the
little league home run four airs and cross home. When
you get home, your parents told you, oh, we hit
a home run. It was awesome. Kyper and Cruco, Man,
they're a great, great combo. They really have been for
a long time. They really are.
Speaker 6 (02:26:07):
But it's just it's not only that the Rangers lose,
but it's in that fashion where you're just like, hey, look,
you know, maybe the Astros don't always answer the call,
but least they ain't doing.
Speaker 7 (02:26:18):
Stuff like that. Yeah, that's that is a and normally
you see those things happen. Oh guys, there's a guy
on second pitcher, gets it, wheels, has to make a
really tough throw across his body, throws it down the line.
Now you're wondering if the guy covered. Now there's a
play at the plate, right, normally played at the plate
with the guy who's already on and got an out
(02:26:40):
or two in the inning. It doesn't usually come from
bases empty, and the guy runs it, has an inside
the park home run with two airs on it, little
league home run, and scores to end it. It's not
usually the way those games end. And I'm sure here
in this town the team that had happened against made
him very happy.
Speaker 6 (02:26:56):
Oh did I mean, especially for all the jawing that
their fan base did during that LCS and especially afterwards,
which I get it, look scoreboard, you got it, you
want congratulations, But I mean it would be fun to
be a fly on the wall up there in DFW
today for people of being like, what the hell is
this team doing?
Speaker 7 (02:27:13):
Mochi's seen it all. He may not have seen that one.
Speaker 6 (02:27:16):
Oh that's that's one of those like where you don't
get mad, you don't you don't show any emotion right there.
You just you just grab whatever notes are in front
of you, and you just go right to the clubhouse.
Speaker 7 (02:27:26):
Head down the stairs and go and get a shower
and go home, and don't even mention like cause you're
gonna lose sixty five of them no matter what. Just
chalk that up to be in one of them. It
could have been we lost nine to nothing in this game,
no difference because if you let that fester or people like,
oh my gosh, that's self inflicted problems. And they were
decisions more than even just the bad throws.
Speaker 6 (02:27:45):
That's that's one of those in the clubhouse right there,
of you know whoever is the first question there, and
you got all the microphones and writers around them, Oh
you say anything that a team about it? I think
Boach's response should be, what the hell should I say
to them? I think they know, what the hell? What
am I going to teach them on that? Bad decision?
Bad throw, bad decision, bad throw, I even the one
(02:28:08):
I get while you're trying to make the throw a
third because now you're in third base with no outs.
Speaker 7 (02:28:12):
Now somebody's just got a lift one, right. But you
sure made it easy on him if you wanted to,
you wanted to get the game over you you you
sure did a good job of assisting him. That's what
what what an ending man's that's one of those.
Speaker 6 (02:28:23):
I mean, you know, as Kuiper asks Krucoh, you know
you ever seen that? He's like, probably not since my
oldest was ten years old. Because if you've ever coached
little league, tyler, Tyler over here.
Speaker 7 (02:28:35):
No no, no, no, no, Tyler, throw.
Speaker 3 (02:28:36):
The ball in.
Speaker 6 (02:28:38):
Just don't miss parents out there, you know, no question,
because you had you had a couple of the kids
who get it, and you have the one kid that well,
let's face it, you put them out in the right
field and just say, oh my god, I'm.
Speaker 7 (02:28:49):
Now right stud with a huge arm in the little league.
It was the guy you hid.
Speaker 6 (02:28:54):
Yeah, yeah, no, we all remember those days, Yes, sir,
for sure it did look like the little league baseball
for sure, yes day at the end there in San Francisco,
all right, John Kenneth Tony. You see you guys right there.
Get you guys involved in the conversation. Also, you want
to talk to some Texans, Drafts, Astros, Rockets, whatever it is,
we have discussed it. It's fair games someone three two
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The Shawn Salisbury Show continued.
Speaker 7 (02:31:04):
Tony and Angleton and Tony, good morning.
Speaker 11 (02:31:07):
Good morning guys, the Rockets. I'm I'm a I'm a
I'm a glass half half full guy.
Speaker 17 (02:31:14):
I'm not worried about what we're gonna do next year,
who we're gonna draft who we're gonna keep. I'm just
worried about this. This is a seven game series. Any
seven game series that you gotta adapt, you gotta adjust.
Speaker 9 (02:31:25):
And you know, just somethings to join it.
Speaker 17 (02:31:28):
As far as the draft is concerned, we drafted nine
players until they put the pads on.
Speaker 11 (02:31:35):
You know, let's let's talk about it. When they put
the pads on.
Speaker 17 (02:31:38):
The Astros, they're starting to play good ball and they're
starting to play a little bit better or done started
the thing with ord One. They're pitching around him and
he's you know, he's having He's swinging at some bad pitches.
But I'm just a half full guy. I'm glad to
be here. Guys, I'm I'm glad. But what I really
want to say is about the golf tournament this weekend.
If you don't have anything to do, go out to
(02:31:59):
uh to the Woodland this weekend.
Speaker 11 (02:32:00):
Go go to the Inspirity.
Speaker 10 (02:32:01):
I'm not I'm not.
Speaker 11 (02:32:02):
I don't work for them.
Speaker 17 (02:32:03):
I don't, but they've got a thing called Folds of
Honor going on, and there's a lot of the legends
of golf are going to be there. I think there's
one hundred combined, one hundred and thirty four major championships.
Speaker 11 (02:32:16):
Guys will be there.
Speaker 17 (02:32:17):
Saturday, and it's a it's it's family, family type event,
and it's wholesome and it's outdoors, and get out and
go go enjoy.
Speaker 11 (02:32:25):
Go enjoy the weather this week and go to the inspirity.
Speaker 17 (02:32:28):
Last thing I want to say is about about the
social media that the standards thing.
Speaker 11 (02:32:33):
We asked for it.
Speaker 17 (02:32:33):
Guys, we asked for cell phones, giving kids cell phones.
It's seven or eight years old. Social media.
Speaker 9 (02:32:39):
We asked for all this. Okay, uh, you got you
gotta take the good with the bad.
Speaker 11 (02:32:43):
You'll have a great day. Man.
Speaker 7 (02:32:44):
I appreciate the call.
Speaker 6 (02:32:45):
I mean that's then again, I mean that's where parenting
probably comes in, and especially too for Jeff Olbrook. I mean,
Jackson knows fully well there's things he can't talk about.
Speaker 7 (02:32:56):
He's twenty one years old. Right. I understand what with
Tony saying, right, I do? I get that he's saying that,
you know, that's what happens with social media, but it
doesn't have to That was a that's not well, just
because you have social media, it gives you carte blanche
to do that. The bottom line is that a twenty
one year old, he cared more about clicks, thinking it
(02:33:17):
was cool and I don't know if booze was involved.
And my guess is it wasn't a clean slate of
bottled water. But regardless, to not think about that at
twenty one tells you that's the negative about social media
can be used for a good thing. But that was
simply let me this will be cool. I'm gonna see
if I can go this viral. And then you wake
up the next day thinking, or that night before, or
(02:33:38):
you wake out of bed that night like you were
talking about during a break is it Pops calls up
and says, or wakes you up in the crib and says,
we got to talk. Well, dad, what's the problem. Can
we wait till tomorrow? No, So you're up now. So
we're doing how you take care of it your home.
But it doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out,
even a twenty one year old that that's not funny. Well,
(02:33:59):
it's also I mean, I'm assuming in.
Speaker 6 (02:34:04):
Coaches all the time talk about you know, the families involved,
the families you know got to understand what you do
all of these different things.
Speaker 7 (02:34:10):
So he knows what the NFL is.
Speaker 6 (02:34:12):
At least his dad's probably tried to explain it to
him of hey, there's things I tell you you can't
tell people, like there's things that you know people would
want to know information wise that if that got out
that gets back to me, then I'm in trouble.
Speaker 7 (02:34:24):
Which he probably already is.
Speaker 6 (02:34:26):
I mean, you have to believe with the Falcons putting
out that that statement yesterday Sean, that they're like, hey,
you better handle this otherwise we'll handle you.
Speaker 7 (02:34:36):
And you're not going to be our coach. That's right,
and it'll get handled. It'll get handled, I assure you
next draft he won't be doing this. But damage done
and shit or will move on. Maybe we're probably more
I mean, I'm sure it was like damn, and he
handled it. He's not going to make an excuse of it.
But it's still bush Lake and you're twenty one. Say
(02:34:57):
that he's a kid, I don't know who's saying it.
I'm so tired of the we re roll out of
Red Car Say he's a kid who wouldn't do that? Well,
I wouldn't and neither would you. Just don't do it.
I did a lot of knucklehead things at twenty one,
but it did call the guy on his the most
important day of his career so far. You wouldn't do that.
I wouldn't think if you do, then you're a clown too.
But you wouldn't. So I'm a clown for different right. No,
(02:35:19):
that's I'm not saying. We have made mistakes. Thank goodness.
Social media wasn't around when I was. You know, when
we were sixteen, back we had to go to a
payphone and you weren't doing getting any damage done there.
So yeah, it just is, he's not a kid. It
was a mistake and a self inflicted mistake that he's
going to be. He's going to here every year he's
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going a draft time, he'll he'll be reminded of it.
But Chadu will handle it and go on and do
his thing. But you just can't do that. And at
twenty one you know better. If you can pop and
if you can crack open a beer, you know you
shouldn't hit send if it's going to change affect somebody.
And that was that was weak. I just say, would
you want this done to you? And you'd say absolutely not.
(02:36:00):
At twenty one you know better.
Speaker 6 (02:36:01):
Well, it's also too I mean, they tell you social media, man,
it's a loaded gun, and especially you got some of
the other things right there. Well, then a simple i'm
sorry doesn't necessarily take up for it. John on the Northwest, John,
good morning.
Speaker 21 (02:36:16):
Hey, good morning guys. First off, the draft, I'm I'm
very I'm happy with it. I think that you know,
I called in Friday and I was glad that we
trade out of the first round because we had five
picks out of the first one hundred and uh and.
Speaker 11 (02:36:30):
I know we trade out one of them, but but
I think I think we got a good.
Speaker 21 (02:36:34):
Uh, a good group of players. The two receivers from
Iowa State, it's interesting. And Sean that quarterback we got
from out of uh what it was out of Florida, right,
uh Graham brilliant.
Speaker 7 (02:36:46):
Chris Graham Mertz who went from Wisconsin to Florida. Yeah.
Speaker 21 (02:36:49):
Yeah, and before he got hurt, that guy had some
really impressive stats.
Speaker 11 (02:36:53):
I think.
Speaker 21 (02:36:54):
Uh So, I don't know that I found that interesting,
but I think, uh but also I wanted to just
comment a little bit on your door, and I you know,
I'm with you, guys. I take myself almost every day
that cell phones weren't around when I was like in
my late teens and early twenties, you know, And I
remember I had to have that conversation with my kids like, hey,
don't ever put yourself online, don't ever do it.
Speaker 11 (02:37:16):
And so anyways, but.
Speaker 21 (02:37:21):
And I heard the rumor that he had a really
bad interview with the Giants. I guess and uh, and
you know, and I'm wondering, you know, I looked at
Colorado's coaching staff. They have a guy named Pat Shermer
who is the offensive coordinator.
Speaker 7 (02:37:35):
Yeah, who's been an offensive coordinator in the endem He's
been a quarterback coach and coach offense in the NFL
for a long time. His dad was a great defensive coordinator,
his his.
Speaker 11 (02:37:44):
I mean, yeah, he's been everywhere.
Speaker 21 (02:37:46):
You wonder, do you think that the coaches were calling
him and just saying, hey, you know, what's his work ethic?
Do you study film?
Speaker 11 (02:37:52):
Does you do?
Speaker 21 (02:37:53):
I was just curious if he had any part in this. Uh,
I'm just wondering what your thoughts would be on that.
So I'll be quiet and listen now.
Speaker 7 (02:38:02):
John, thanks a lot. Yeah, I would say that if
it was me, I would have a hard time believing
that you wouldn't call the guy who sits in the
room with your Dr. Sanders. Is he a student? Is
he prepared? Is he and you know he's going to
say all the things that he needs to say in public.
I mean, I'm talking about coach Shermer, but he's a
smart football coach. And I would imagine he given honest
(02:38:25):
because you you're your credibility is on the line as
well well, a guy who went through this, there's no
question about it, so you go. I would imagine, yeah, John,
I don't know anybody that is going to draft a
guy that wouldn't call, and not only the head coach,
but hell if you had the backup quarterbacks number or
another player on the team. How was he? How was
(02:38:46):
he honestly? How how was he around the other guys
or what was it like? And is he a great
team guy?
Speaker 14 (02:38:52):
What do you?
Speaker 7 (02:38:52):
And I'm sure Coach Shermer got talked to many a
time by guys just wanted details. Is he a student?
Is he does he do the lonely work? Is he
show up on time? Is either early or late? For
whatever reason? There's there's a lot of factors involved in
the shud or Sanders plummet. The question is did our
evaluation or a fan or media's evaluation match the NFL's evaluation.
(02:39:16):
All the talk from mock draft people said all first
round talent or second round talent? Well did Did the
NFL people that actually watch tape feel the same way?
All thirty two of them? Clearly? And that's exactly right?
So yeah, I and Graham Mertz is a smart player
and he did put up some numbers. No risk taking
a guy that late, he got beat out and injured
(02:39:37):
by a kid who's going to be a star in
DJ Lagway at Florida. The Graham Mertz is a veteran
who's got a chance and maybe a guy you can
keep on this rostering around because he's got some good football.
I like you, and there's no risk in drafting him
where you did with a seventh round pick? Was the
seventh round pick or sixth round pick? What was he
for you? Graham Mertz? Six? The sixth round? Seven rounds? Yeah,
(02:39:59):
it's seven seven. Yeah, I'm sitting here thinking, damn, did
they take off another round but late? Because that's where
the last pick of the seventh round was pretty and
you're hoping you find another guy like that. Sure chances
are slim, but you never know. You get that backup
quarterback coming out of the dining hall. Hey, hey, hey,
buddy over here, I want to talk to you really quick.
Why is that guy wearing a brown shirt? Yeah? Weird? Well,
(02:40:21):
in truth, why wouldn't you time? I mean, you're not
hanging around there the training table, but when you take
a visit on campus, maybe you say, do you mind
if I visit with somebody else about him? I mean,
whatever that pro I want to know if I'm investing
a first round pick, like, for instance, let's switch to
let's switch to you know, cam Ward, first pick of
your drafts, either going to sit you back or gonna
(02:40:43):
elevate you. Tennessee's going one way or the other with
this pick, and I think that he's pretty damn good.
But I would talk to anybody that was willing to
talk back about what kind of players see I would.
I would go all the way back to Incarnate Word
when he first started. Then I would jump into Washington
State player, say anybody that knows him from there, and
then I'd go to you know, to Florida and talk
(02:41:05):
to them all from Billion Apier everybody to find out
is this worth it? And I would imagine they did
their due diligence and said this is the guy, and
good on cam Ward, But yeah, you do your due diligence,
and Coach Shermer, I'm sure took a lot of that
did from a lot of different people, took a lot
of phone calls.
Speaker 6 (02:41:22):
Shops are too precious, man. I mean, it's one of
those that any small misstep can get you out of
a job. And that's where getting those picks right, that's
that's why it's so important.
Speaker 7 (02:41:32):
Missing on a defensive tackle in the first round. You
can overcome not that you don't want to do. Then
you start to look, man, should we drafted the guy
four picks later? That's what that is. It's the regret stuff.
But you can still overcome missing it on a defensive
tackle you thought was going to be a Hall of
Famer and as a bust three years later on a quarterback.
Your franchise isn't being set back five to six seven years.
(02:41:53):
It is if you've thrown your if you've thrown it
into that's our future. And if that doesn't work, it
sets you back far more than a We drafted a
tight end in the first round and it didn't work out,
we'll be okay. But when you draft a quarterback, you're
throwing it all in because the guy starting the second
he gets off that flight to sign his contract, no
doubt about.
Speaker 6 (02:42:13):
It's h Kenneth see you right there, gets you involved
in the conversation. Speaking of the Texans traft class, some
thoughts on that of early guys that are going to
contribute for this team.
Speaker 7 (02:42:23):
We'll talk about it here. Sean Salisbury show.
Speaker 3 (02:42:27):
Let the celebration start. Sean Salisbury on Sports Talk seven ninety.
Speaker 6 (02:42:34):
Happy plated birthday Jeff Blum his birthday over the weekend birthday? Nice, Well,
love the blumber Man.
Speaker 7 (02:42:41):
Who doesn't?
Speaker 6 (02:42:42):
Yeah, if you if you don't love the blumber Man,
I don't know what to do with you. You gotta
love Blumber. He's he's the top of the top of people.
Speaker 9 (02:42:52):
Man.
Speaker 7 (02:42:53):
Is the best birthday to him? For sure? For sure?
Speaker 6 (02:42:55):
We love Blumber, TK, Sparky, Robert Ford. We we we're
pretty fortunate around these parts.
Speaker 7 (02:43:02):
We sure are Steven Sparks, Bobby Ford, Jeffrey Blum, and uh,
Todd's just taught. I mean he was going to say,
what is the Is there another name for Anthony it's Tony.
What what is Todd?
Speaker 6 (02:43:17):
I don't think there is another one for Todd, So
it's just Todd callous. It's not Todd Lee Todd Rick.
Speaker 5 (02:43:24):
Totter.
Speaker 7 (02:43:25):
Yeah, it's not that you throw that at him. You're
gonna get a response. That's the formal and the informal,
like money. Yeah. Yeah, in the house, I was gonna say,
t K is just it's a layup, right it is? Yeah?
I mean well it's actually it's a slam dunk finished.
It can't forget about Julia, there's no there's absolutely no doubt.
(02:43:48):
Good good group of TV and radio.
Speaker 6 (02:43:51):
We got here and shout out Esh and Brian Bogus.
Oh yeah, there's studio stuff off Redick everybody too.
Speaker 12 (02:44:00):
You know.
Speaker 7 (02:44:00):
Stanton always cracks me up with him is he's always
gotta have some sort of prop. Well, if you notice
that our guy, Uh, why am I losing my mind? Uh? Davis? Uh?
On the CBS broadcast, Fox broadcast, Das No not Joe Analyst,
football analyst, My guy, Charles Davis, Charles, I'm moving my mind.
He always has a football when they go out there.
(02:44:22):
He's holding a football when they go down. When they
say let's go up into the booth and he and
maybe it's Kevin Harlan, whoever his partner is. They're talking.
Charles always has a football in his hand. Some guys,
it's like Lee Corso with always had the number ten sidensial. Yeah,
it's like a comfort zone. It's like a crutch not
and I get it, friend, and I and I get
the crutch saying but yeah, and Mike, I would imagine
(02:44:45):
Mike just likes It's just you know, he's a p
He's spent his whole career with the baseball in his hand,
so why not fully get it? There you go, You
go Kenneth in Orange, my dad's hometown wants the way
in Kenneth. What's up?
Speaker 22 (02:44:57):
Okay, this is a couple of things. I wanted to
bounce off the because kind of sit back and let
everybody talk.
Speaker 8 (02:45:03):
But I was just nobody.
Speaker 22 (02:45:05):
Never I haven't heard anybody talk about the potential to
happen with this Cleveland thing, and you do.
Speaker 8 (02:45:14):
And the draft is that it kind.
Speaker 22 (02:45:16):
Of reminds me of when Dallas had Troy Eckman and
Steve Walsh. You had two first round pick quarterbacks, and
then here it is, you standing at two quarterbacks with
all this potential, and so now I'm turning to look
another way.
Speaker 8 (02:45:35):
Now, think about this.
Speaker 22 (02:45:39):
Now we know they a't not gonna keep both of them,
but just think of what you can get for one
of them. And Cleveland right now is drafting money poor, right, okay?
And if this GM played this right here, man, they
may get them some capital because if I remember right,
Steve wash got traded to the Saints for number one,
(02:46:02):
and I think you're a later draft. But but Dallas,
you know they got a lot Dallas. Dallas got a
lot of that talent. They had some good trades back then.
Speaker 7 (02:46:13):
And uh for a team who gave up like eleven
players to get herschel Walker. So and I love teammate.
And yes, Walshington had going as he was a supplemental
first round pick by Jimmy Johnson and Aikman was there
and they eventually yeah there you go, Kenneth, What do
you okay? So you want what do you what are
(02:46:33):
you saying you want somebody to do here with this?
You're talking about, Well, what what I would do?
Speaker 1 (02:46:38):
What?
Speaker 11 (02:46:38):
What?
Speaker 14 (02:46:38):
What would be beautiful?
Speaker 11 (02:46:40):
Is?
Speaker 14 (02:46:40):
Because first of all, man should do it.
Speaker 22 (02:46:43):
He's okay, and everything like that. But see he's he's
not damaged good on the field wise, but he's damaged
socially a little bit. What I would do, man, I
would lay down some some house rules, get the guy in,
develop him because he got all this potential. And I
was hanging this other court out there and squeeze everything
I can to get out because they got missed out
(02:47:05):
so bad. Behind this this this, this, this, this this
this Houston guy.
Speaker 11 (02:47:09):
Man.
Speaker 22 (02:47:10):
And but what I wanted to say too.
Speaker 10 (02:47:13):
Is man.
Speaker 7 (02:47:15):
Really quick?
Speaker 6 (02:47:17):
Yeah all right, yeah, we'll pick that up another time. No,
I I think that's already been.
Speaker 7 (02:47:24):
He wants to trade Mills and get Shadeur Sanders? Is
that No, I'm just asking. That's why I was double check.
You make a good point about understanding. He made a
good point about Steve Walsh sang in Dallas and try
to get assets and or give up some assets for him.
I don't think Shade Sanders is on their radar, but
maybe I'm wrong. I think they're happy with Davis Mills
as a backup.
Speaker 6 (02:47:42):
I think the humility has been served. That's that's a
big time. And now it comes down, now, what kind
of player are you?
Speaker 7 (02:47:47):
You're not. It's for the first time in his career
he won't be under his dad's umbrella as a coach
for so now he gets to step out and do
a saying. Hell, who knows, maybe he'll shine even more.
There you go. I root for his success.
Speaker 6 (02:47:57):
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