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On Thursday's show: What the Reds are doing isn't working, so now what? Is Terry Francona really supposed to come up with answers when he doesn't have the players? And what happens with the Reds' manager once the season ends.

Plus: Aaron Rodgers is officially in the AFC North, a bad Trey Hendrickson trade proposal, and a conversation with with new Cyclones Head Coach Riley Weselowski.

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Rapine for pinch hitting yesterday. I took the day off.

(00:26):
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on Twitter. The Reds lost yesterday. They lose two out
of three to Milwaukee. They are thirty and thirty three.

(01:52):
Chances are, if you care at all about the Cincinnati Reds,
you do not need me to tell you all this stuff,
but I guess I will. It is a June fifth.
We are going into the first weekend of June. Father's
Day is not yet here. We're still a month away
from fourth to July. We're a month away from the
Reds hitting the midway point of the season, and yet
this team is, as we stand today, nine games at

(02:14):
a first place. I guess they're what four and a
half out of the wildcard, although you kind of miss
me with that thirty and thirty three. They were pounded
yesterday by the Brewers. This has not been a good
week for the Reds. TJ. Friedel's awesome catch on Tuesday night. Notwithstanding,
it's been a bunch of bad news. They lose two
out of three in Chicago, they lose two out of
three to the Brewers. Hunter Greens now on the injured list,

(02:36):
and Terry Francona sounds more and more exasperated, although I
guess yesterday not agitated. I don't think we got as
much of agitated Terry Francona yesterday as we got exasperated
Terry Francona yesterday. Here is the part from yesterday that
has drawn the ire of a lot of folks, including

(02:57):
some of my colleagues. This is from yesterday's postgame session
with the reporters at GABP Tarn go ahead and hit
that audio.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
A couple of mistakes, A couple of mistakes.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
You know.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
I just was mentioned in DJ earlier too. He's pitching
with so much confidence, and I think he still will.
He just made two mistakes and it was four runs.
He's still like when you watch him, he's in command
of what he's doing and he's throwing his change up
and I just think you're not going to be perfect.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Why do you think base runners are so hard to
come by today?

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Well, you know, the first guy, you know, they can
call it an open whatever it is, but he's three
they've kind of been three innings and he's actually got
really good stuff, and whether they're lengthening him out or not.
Then they bring in priests there and he thinks it
so well and then he can just criss cross with
a break. The ball just kind of just gave us
a tough time. I meannother you know, they really swung

(04:01):
the bat. Other than that, we didn't have a lot
of hard hits we had. I thought we had a
nice opportunity early with sp Up with their lefty end.
That's probably a guy we like to hit when there's
a lefty on the mound, and he hit that kind
of that soft one hundred to a second.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
You guys have had one of.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
The bests of teams, I guess starters, but then the
leaders are on the.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Worst in baseball?

Speaker 4 (04:29):
Is there anything like when you see that kind of split.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
That kind of like, I mean, we kind of talk
about stuff like that. If I had an answer, we
wouldn't be like that. It's not like everybody just you know,
shuts a die. I'd like to figure that out better.
I don't have an answer for you.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
I didn't have an answer. So there's a lot of
to Tito the Magnificent from yesterday, I read Luzi to
the Brewers. By the way, no games and Diamondbacks are
here this weekend, but they still, by the way, have
a positive run differential. By the way, later on, I
have a simple request, just a simple request between you
and I. Tito the Magnificent yesterday said, I don't have

(05:11):
the answers. I don't have the answers. And what he
was asked a good question, questions about like why the
Reds are so good early in the game. Coming into
this weekend, no team at score more runs in baseball
in the first inning than the Reds, and they have.
It's uncanny if you look at how good they've been
versus starters, versus relievers early in the game versus late
in the game. It's well established now they haven't won

(05:32):
a game yet that they've trailed after six innings so far,
this season, including obviously yesterday, Tito the Magnificent says he
doesn't have the answers because he can't say what he
wants to say. What he wants to say is I
don't have enough good players. He doesn't have the answers
because the players he has doesn't give them answers, doesn't

(05:52):
give him answers. And look, man, we've criticized Tito the
Magnificent for certain individual moves because that comes with the
territory of big league manager. We would be doing that
during a season in which the Reds were ten games
over five hundred. I mean, I remember when the Reds
got good in twenty ten. We did that with Dusty Baker.
You know, there were folks I thought Dusty Baker should

(06:14):
have been the manager of the year that year, and
there was some pushback to that. It's like, no, now
the decisions matter more because the team is good. The
individual managerial decisions matter more with the course of one
hundred and six to two games. To me, that's the
fun part, right, second guessing, sometimes first guessing, debating some
of the other options. We did that exhaustively earlier this
week as it relates to the Reds with the decision

(06:35):
to have Garrett Hampson bat with two outs and nobody
on at the night thinning of a one run game
on Monday night. So yeah, you could dive into the
granular details of decision making and there's some lineup construction
stuff here, But on a macro level, I'm not sure
what the manager of the Cincinnati Reds is supposed to do.

(06:56):
This team is thirty and thirty three. I don't believe that.
Number One, we have seen the quote Francona effect, because
you know, we were told this offseason Tino Francona the
Magnificent is worth at least ten wins a year. Okay, God,
if that's the case as the season unfolds, this team

(07:16):
still has a chance to be really good. Number Two,
I think you could put pretty much anybody in the
dugout and you would have a roughly thirty and thirty
three team. He doesn't have the answers because he doesn't
have the players. Now, you could argue he has players
who were supposed to provide answers. It sounds like I'm

(07:37):
picking on them, but like I'm not picking on Matt McClain.
I'm pointing out that Matt McClain is a player the
Reds were counting on to be really good this season.
They traded away Jonathan India right understandably so. By the
way they traded away Jonathan India, Matt McClain went unchallenged
to be the starting second baseman. He was written in
inc as the team's number two hitter, like they relying

(08:00):
on him to be really good this year. Instead, he's
been the exact opposite. Ellie de la Cruz has been
okay at times. He's done some awesome stuff at times
some not so awesome stuff. His season this year is okay.
By the way, both players may still end up being terrific.
Spencer Steer has not been very good this season. Cees

(08:22):
has barely played. Tyler Stevenson has been injured, and when
he's played, he's been at very best. Okay, There's just
not a lot of there there when it comes to
the roster and when it comes to players who were
supposed to be good for this team not really helping
at all. Jam Or Candelario has barely helped. When he's
been healthy, he was awful. TJ Friedel's having an excellent season.

(08:45):
Who else can you say, aside from maybe Jose Travino
is having an excellent season, he doesn't have the players.
Part of that is a player performance issue. Part of that,
sure all, grant you, is an injury issue. Part of
that is a roster construction issue. He's saying he doesn't
have the answers because he can't say I don't have
the players. I don't know what answers Tito is supposed

(09:08):
to come up with. I certainly would not bat Santiago
Espinal's second, but I gotta be honest with you, I'm
not sure who I would bat second on this team.
Beyond that, I don't know. I don't know how a
manager sitting in the dugout or sitting in his office,
or when he's playing his favorite card game, cribbage. I
don't know when Tito the Magnificent is supposed to come

(09:30):
up with answers. I also just don't know how this
team this season gets better enough for it to matter.
I'm sure they'll have some players who go on hot streaks.
I'm sure they'll have some players who outperform the way

(09:51):
they have performed to this point. I'll grant you, there's
a possibility that somebody comes off the injury list and
helps and has a positive effect on the team. But
if you went into this season hoping or expecting for
the Reds to qualify for the postseason, meaning they're gonna

(10:12):
win enough games to either be the National League Central
Division champion or one of the three best non division
winning teams, I don't know how that happens with this
team is currently constructed. I don't know how this team

(10:32):
currently vault, as currently constructed, vaults into contention, serious contention.
I don't know how that happens, which means I don't
know what the answers are either. Now I'm not being
paid to come up with the answers, but if there
was something obvious out there, I'd hammer Tito the Magnificent

(10:54):
for not being able to come up with it. I can't.
I don't know what the answers are. Some guys got
play better, that's the answer. The roster wasn't good enough
to start the season. It's not good enough now. We
can't afford to have certain guys not get hurt, or
we can't afford to have certain guys get hurt. I
should say, not only do I not have the answers,

(11:15):
I can barely speak. We we could pick apart every
single Terry Francona decision. We can get agitated with him
for getting agitated with reporters questions. We can mock him
for not having the answers whatever it is. He doesn't
have answers because he doesn't have players, doesn't have enough

(11:37):
players that you can count on. Who on this team
can you count on? Who's reliable? Who do you look
at and go, you know what? This team's gonna be
okay because of their track record. I'm all ears five
point three seven four nine, fifteen thirty. I hope that
James Arpeene did not exhaust all the Reds phone calls yesterday.
Five point three seven four nine, fifteen thirty is our

(11:59):
phone number. I look, man, I'm not defending Terry Francona.
I just I look at the team objectively and go,
I don't know what a manager is supposed to do.
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when I was on I started doing this show. I
started on the air full time on this radio station
eighteen years ago, late May two thousand and seven. If
you remember, Greg Doyle and I did a show from
nine am to noon, and then Greg moved on things
have worked out well for him, and was on from
nine to noon myself, and then eventually slid into afternoons

(14:20):
and there was a sort of a timeshare niche situation
set up with me and Lance. And then I've done
the show on my own now for a while, and
I was thinking about this. You know, we think you
get reflective sometimes. Who are the things you've taught, Who
are the players you've talked about the most? What are
the topics you've discussed the most? And we could discuss

(14:44):
that one day, but I think the ten words that
I have said most often and all the time that
I've been doing this show. Here are the ten words
I've said consecutively most often. Ready for him quote, I
don't know what the manager is supposed to do. I

(15:05):
think those are probably the ten words that I have
said the most consecutively over the course of eighteen years
as a full time on air personality on this radio station.
I was thinking about that earlier because of the you know,
Tito the Magnificent, the manager of the Red said I
don't have the answers. A lot of folks, including some

(15:27):
of my colleagues here, who have gotten mad at him
for saying that I don't know what the answers are
supposed Oh what the answers are supposed to be. For
the situation that Tito the Magnificent was asked about, which is,
why is your team so good early in the game
and so bad late in the game? Offensively, I don't know.
I don't know how that changes. So, despite the current

(15:49):
level of frustration with him that exists among the fan base,
I think we would all acknowledge Terry Francona has had
a very successful run as a big league manager, well
respected for his work in Boston and in Cleveland, and
maybe to a lesser degree of Philadelphia, a beloved figure.
He will be in the Hall of Fame one day
for his managerial work, and it'll be well deserved, and

(16:11):
that'll be independent of what happens in Cincinnati, and his
Hall of Fame speech I'm sure will be awesome, because
he's really good at giving talks. I don't know that
the Reds have hired, maybe since Davy Johnson, somebody as
qualified as Terry Francona to be the manager. I mean,

(16:31):
Dusty Baker had a lot of success in San Francisco
and Chicago, but like that, that last box he didn't
check until two jobs later when he was in Houston,
which was win the World Series, and they hired Davy
Johnson in nineteen ninety three. He had won a World
Series since then. I don't think there's anybody as accomplished
as Terry Francona who has been hired to be Red's manager.

(16:54):
And so we all understand that even if you despise
the job that he's doing right now, we would ignore
that right and I think we would also acknowledge that
most people in the sport if you said you could
have David beller Terry Francona, you would take Tito Francona.
So in the dugout right now you have somebody who
is evidently qualified, universally beloved, has an impeccable resume, is

(17:20):
renowned for his communication skills, is renowned for his ability
to win baseball games, not regardless of makeup of the team,
but with a lot of different types of organizations. He's
won in big markets, small markets. Terry Francona is a
Hall of Fame manager, a great manager, and yet he

(17:41):
doesn't have the answers. And so I go back to,
over the time that I've been doing this show, those
ten words, I don't know what the manager is supposed
to do. And when I started doing this show is
right before they fired Jerry Naring, and then it was
Pete mccannon. Boy, the writers really liked Pete mccannon, then Dusty,

(18:04):
then Brian Price, then David Bell obviously this year Terry Francona.
And over those eighteen years, the ten words I have
said most are I don't know what the manager is
supposed to do? What does that mean? It means the
manager doesn't matter that much. I'm not gonna tell you
that he doesn't matter at all. I'm not gonna tell

(18:26):
you that a good manager can't have an effect, a
positive effect. I'm not going to tell you that a
bad manager isn't going to have a negative effect. I
think David Bell failed with last year's team. I think
in his capacity last season he underperformed that it cost
him his God, it cost him his gig. But man,
even during some of the leaner years under David Bell,

(18:47):
how often would I say I don't know what the
manager are supposed to do. We can make it eleven
words if we include the manager first and last name.
I know what David Bell is supposed to do prior
to that, I don't know what Brian Price is supposed
to do. Times though he was successful here, I'm not
sure what Dusty Baker is supposed to do. I don't know,
Like you beat up on Terry Francona, God knows I have. Again,

(19:09):
like there are individual, you know, granular details of a
game that the manager can make a decision that could
impact whether or not the game is won. And I
love talking about that sort of stuff, and God knows
we have. But on a large scale, at a macro level.
I don't know what the manager is supposed to do.
If I've been saying that, and chances are if you're

(19:32):
a fan, you've been saying that often over the years,
I think you arrive at a certain conclusion that it's
not the manager, it's the more common denominators. What are
some of the common denominators of the Cincinnati rads for
the last let's just say eighteen years. Make it about me.

(19:55):
It's not the manager, it's the inability. And one might
argue at times unwillingness to assemble the best possible roster
to give the Cincinnati Reds a chance to compete at
the highest level, this roster is not ready to compete
at the highest level. Manager ain't got nothing to do

(20:18):
with that. Three point thirty, the new head coach of
the Cyclones.

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Speaker 2 (20:58):
Rom four o'clock. This is ESPN fifteen thirty on Moleger.
The Cincinnati Cyclones about an hour and a half ago
announced they have ended their coaching search by hiring actually
a guy who's spent a brief amount of time in
Cincinnati as a player. Riley was Lowski named head coach
of the Cincinnati Cyclones. He comes to Cincinnati after serving

(21:21):
the last couple of seasons as the associate head coach
of the Kansas City Mavericks. It is a pleasure to
welcome to Cincinnati and congratulate on the new job, coach
was Lowski. It's good to have you, coach.

Speaker 7 (21:33):
How are you, hey, I'm doing great. Thanks for having
me on.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
What have the last few weeks been like for you?

Speaker 7 (21:40):
Yeah, you know what, It's been a whirlwind for sure,
interviewing not only with the Cyclones but with a few
other teams in the league. But I'll tell you all
along that process. For me, Cincinnati was number one on
my target list of the one place that I wanted
to be. Everything about the organization, the fan base, the
affiliation that's in place. Just kind of knew that was

(22:03):
a place that had the resources to be able to
have the level of success that I'd want to have
as the first time head coach in this league. And
so I couldn't be more thrilled to become the Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
All right, dive into some of those specifics for me,
this is a franchise that has had a lot of success,
and you know what the Cyclones can be. You know
what this franchise can do in the EHL. Give me
an idea of what some of those things are that
you saw in the interview process that make you feel
like I can get the Cyclones back to where they
need to be.

Speaker 7 (22:31):
Yeah. Well, first off, you got to start with a
great fan base, and we have that in Cincinnati. I
think we know draw maybe in the top five for sure,
the amount of fans into the arena every day, and
so everything starts with a good falling and a good
fan base, which we have in Cincinnati. We've got a
major League city, which you know, not every team in
the ECHL, there's a few that have a major league city,

(22:53):
and so we have a great market in Cincinnati. The
affiliation that is in place, that was a big one
for me. I know it was the first year affiliation
with Toronto last year and h and it didn't necessarily
pan out the way fans and hope they're expected, But
what I will tell you is that is something to
be excited about, that affiliation with the Maple Leafs and
the mar Leaus and that's going to be a big
part of our success, uh in the future here going forward,

(23:17):
and so use those are some of the really big
points for me. Another obviously is the ownership group and
the fact that they the ownership group also owns the arena,
something not a lot of people see but in our
league that's pretty rare to have that. And so you
really can can do a lot of things in terms
of creating excitement around the games, and and you see

(23:39):
that with the weekday games and the amount of butts
in the seats for those weekday games because some of
the promotions and stuff they can run. And so as
a coach for me, recruiting, that's huge right to be
able to sell that to the players, because when we
talk to players, they want to know what's exciting about
playing in your city and in your market, and and
and with Cincinnati, there's a lot of things I'm gonna

(24:00):
be excited about.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
You mentioned recruiting, and I'm sure there are some fans
who hear that and don't know that the head coach
at this level is involved in trying to get players
to want to play here. Take me through the recruiting
pitch and walk me through some of the philosophies you
have in getting kids to want to come play for
the Cyclones.

Speaker 7 (24:17):
Yeah. Well, first off, it starts with building a program
that that people want to be a part of, right,
and so like for us in Kansas City, I've been
here for four years, and then we just to be honest,
we'd underachieved that the team in Kansas City had underachieved
for many years, and we knew that there was a
lot of similarities in terms of the market side the
ownership group that we had some good possibilities in Kansas City,

(24:37):
and for us, it was we didn't have the affiliation
in place at the time, but we were able to
add that our second year. But the mindset of a
coach in the EHL, it's not just about coaching hockey, right,
It's about it's about building a program and every aspect
of the program from the way you travel from you know,
the way the players are housed, in the apartments that

(24:59):
go into it, and then creating an environment, uh, and
a culture that they want to be a part of.
And and you know the places are in piece for
the pieces are in place in Cincinnati that to do
that quickly. But it is a process, right, and you
have to you have to kind of almost like the
the Field of Dreams quote. They're like, if you build it,
they will come. Uh. And so we've got to get

(25:21):
to that point. But uh. But with the uh, with
the the market of Cincinnati and the success that that
the Cyclones organization has had in the past, it's something
that we'll be able to build on very quickly.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
You mentioned the Toronto Maple Leafs affiliation, which I know
folks here and folks with the organization are really excited about.
What is the role of head coach of the Cyclones
as it relates to the relationship with the parent.

Speaker 7 (25:42):
Club well development of their players. Right. Yeah, they they
put players in Cincinnati because they want them to develop,
and they want them to when they do get the
call up in the American Hockey League that they are
ready to go. And and you know, quite frankly, they're
sending players to us that they would expect some day
to be playing for the parent club up in the NHL.
And so actually I played with one of their guys,

(26:03):
Bobby McMahon was a player that I played with in Wichita.
At the time, it was COVID year, they didn't have
the affiliation. So that's a player that they had put
into the into the EHL and now he's playing, you know,
he's playing in the NHL for them. And so they're
putting players in place in Cincinnati for you to develop
and for for them to play a role in the

(26:24):
future of their organization. And they trust you with that.
So having good communication with them and and them trusting
that you're doing what's what's the right thing for their
players and also putting them in a winning environment. And
I think our fans will be happy to hear that
is that that is a big priority with any ECHL
organization is putting the team on the ice that will
not only win hockey games, but but that your fans

(26:45):
can get excited about watching night in and night out.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
You played, you were an active player as recently as
four years ago. Was the goal to always eventually transition
into coaching.

Speaker 7 (26:57):
Yeah, you know what it was for about the last
five years of my playing career. But year one as
a player, my goal was to just play one year
pro hockey and then probably get into the working world.
And so I had some injuries my first year, a
tourer knee that I wanted. I didn't want to end
that way, so I came back for second year and
game one had a broken back from an awkward hit.

(27:18):
And then by the time I was ready to come back,
I ended up going to Rapid City South Dakota in
the Central League and had so much fun and won
a championship there, and one thing led to the next,
and it turned it into a long playing career that
with about five years left, I knew I wanted to
eventually get into coaching, and which was very helpful because
it allowed me to look at things from a different
perspective for my last five years as a player and

(27:38):
then really allowed me to side in pretty seamlessly to
my first year as a coach in EHL.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
The season is still months away. We talked about player recruitment.
What are the things do you have to get done
this offseason besides just moving to Cincinnati.

Speaker 7 (27:53):
Yeah, moving to Cincinnati is a big part of it.
Building a staff is another big part of it. Now
a lot of those places pieces are already in place.
We've got the best equipment manager in the league already
in place in Cincinnati, and we've got one of the
top athletic trainers in the league already in Cincinnati as well,
and so like that's a huge part of it. But

(28:13):
assistant coach and what the rest of that staff looks like,
you know, determining that what we can do to bring
that in. So that's a big part of it. Developing
even more onto that relationship with Toronto, with the Marley's
and made beliefs and making sure that we understand what
the type of players and the prospects that they're going
to be sending to us, maybe having a bit of
a say into that. That'll include going up to the

(28:37):
different things with them like their development camp and their
training camps and Rookie tournament and stuff like that to
be able to build on that relationship. Then also just
everything working with the front office to be able to
create documents and videos to be able to market Cincinnati
to different players. We've got our broadcaster is doing an

(28:58):
incredible job helping me put the other PDF right now
to be able to just text all of our players
so that when they're talking to four different teams, they
can see, oh, man, this is what Cincinnati offers and
some of the great things about coming there. And then
it's you know, the relationships that over the last four
years I've built with all the agents and different coaches
that I'll be utilizing a lot of reaching out to

(29:18):
them and just finding out what players are available, because
there's a lot of them right now. Last year there
was four hundred and fifty six graduating players out of
the NCAA Division One because the COVID year finally ran out,
and so there's going to be a lot of players available,
and it's gonna be my job to make sure that
the best ones are coming to Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
I knew this morning I was having you on. Specifically,
I knew last night I was going to have the
head coach of the Cyclones on. I didn't know who
it was going to be. And so I was watching
Game one of the Stanley Cup Final last night, which
was a great game in overtime Edmonton wins comes from
behind to a win Game one of the series, and
I was wondering, does somebody like yourself, could you watch

(29:56):
that game like a fan or are you starting to
watch that game through the lens of a coach.

Speaker 7 (30:01):
You know, that's a great question, because I do watch
it only as a coach now, and the reason for
that is because I don't get to sit down at
night and watch it because I have a six year
old and I want, you hope, and so I'm I'm
on dad duties. And so when I watch that game,
it's it's the next morning, and I'm watching it on
like a video element of it, and I'm so I

(30:22):
watch the game in sixty minutes. I don't watch any
whistles or stoppages of play, and I and I watch
it because it is interesting and I learn so much
watching NHL games. But I don't have the luxury right
now with my two boys to be able to sit
there with my feet up, and especially with my wife's
an absolute trooper. You know the amount of time that
we're on the road during the season, and so when
the season's over, I got to slip into pretty much

(30:45):
major dad mode at the evenings.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
All Right, See, you can't say, honey, I'm gonna but
if like this series goes deep before in game seven
that you should get a you should get an exemption. Right. Hey,
I'm gonna watch the Stanley Cup Final Game seven if
it goes as far as it did last year, and
be able to watch when.

Speaker 7 (31:02):
We get close to the end of the series. There's
no doubt at all we get in a few free
passes on those ones, that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
All Right, Well, congratulations, welcome to Cincinnati, and we'll do
it again before the season starts. Congratulations yet again. We
appreciate the time.

Speaker 7 (31:15):
Yeah, I appreciate you guys having me.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
On, no problem. That's Riley Wislowski is the new head
coach of the Cincinnati Cyclones. Plate here for a season
in twenty fifteen and sixteen. All right, late sports headlines
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(31:38):
Aaron Rodgers is going to sign with the Pittsburgh Steelers.
This according to ESPN. I don't know if ESPN had
it first, but I'm reading the ESPN story. Adam Schefter, Yes,
had it first. Aaron Rodgers plans to sign with the
Pittsburgh Steelers. According to us Schefter, ends of ends months
of uncertainty around his future. Aaron Rodgers has been a
free agent obviously since last he's and ended he played

(32:01):
for the New York Jets. A little more punch, we
get Burrow versus Rogers, which obviously we had in twenty
twenty one a game the Green Bay one in overtime.
Pittsburgh is at Cincinnati. Remember that's a Thursday night game.
That is Week one two, four seven one two four,

(32:21):
week six, Week six, and then the Bengals go there
on the sixteenth of November. So, yes, as has been
rumored for months, Aaron Rodgers plans to sign with the
Pittsburgh Steelers. We'll spend some time on that coming up
here in just a bet I. Meanwhile, the Reds are
off tonight, d Backs here tomorrow, first of three against Arizona.
Jamer Candelario's rehab assignment has been transferred to Louisville, Florence

(32:45):
we'll host try City tonight. FC Cincinnati's Miles Robinson has
been named to the US men's national team roster for
the twenty twenty five CONCACAF Gold Cup. You just heard
our conversation with Riley Weslowski. He has been named the
new head coach of the Cincinnati Cyclones and a Game
one of the NBA Finals tonight in Oklahoma City Pacers
and Thunder OKC a nine and a half point favorite.

(33:09):
It is twelve away from four o'clock. I guess we
have to spend some time on Aaron Rodgers, which I
don't know if it's gonna work. I do think it's
very interesting. I mean, you know, I'm a fan of interesting. Uh. Yeah,
the Steelers are desperate. I've never thought the Pittsburgh Steelers
have come off as a desperate organization. But here we

(33:30):
are Aaron Rodgers in Pittsburgh. There's obviously high potential. There's
also a very low floor. We'll see, we'll see. How's
that for a take? We'll see, Uh five one, three, seven,
four nine, fifteen thirty is our phone number? Eight sixty
six seven oh two three seven seven six. We also
have to get to this somewhat insane trade proposal that

(33:51):
has been made on ESPN about Trey Hendrickson and what
next if Tito decides to go that Coming up at
four on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports.

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Sheare abart mean together?

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How you doing? How you doing? Good to see you? Awesome.
Channel nine's not the same without you, but I'm sure
you're replacements of the people who also do weather. We'll
do a good job and get the name of the

(36:27):
radio station correct. And we got Cameron Harden saying John
John and Friends demoralizing what it is, though it did
sort of get me through a no man's land segment.
Thirty is our phone number? Aaron Rodgers is going to

(36:50):
play for the Steelers' chances are? You knew that we
have to jump back into the Reds because we got
to start asking some what now's or what's next? And
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Speaker 2 (37:12):
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Thank you for listening. Hopefully you're having just an awesome,
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(37:33):
the top of the hour update significant AFC North news.
Steelers are about to sign Aaron Rodgers. He reportedly has
informed Pittsburgh he is going to fly to Pittsburgh on
Friday to sign his contract day one year deal. By
the way, if you don't know, chances are you do,
because Aaron Rodgers has been talked about a lot and
connected the Pittsburgh Steelers for quite a while. They will

(37:55):
Pittsburgh open up the season Week one on the road
against the Jets. I think in Super Bowl odds have
been adjusted. Their odds to win the Super Bowl were
at plus forty five hundred this morning, now at plus
four thousand on FanDuel, and so Vegas is reacting. I
have not seen movement in their win loss total, but

(38:17):
I'm sure there'll be an adjustment there. Look, he raises
their ceiling, He raises their ceiling. But you know, Tom
Brady was still really good as last year in Tampa Bay,
but it kind of petered out Peyton. Manning won a
Super Bowl his final season in Denver, but his play

(38:38):
kind of hit a wall right far of that final
season in Minnesota. Like Aaron Rodgers statistically with the Jets
last season was fine. Like if you look at his
numbers his final year or his one year I guess
that he played with the Jets, you know, twenty eight
touchdowns and eleven picks and you know, I mean they
weren't typical Aaron Rodgers' numbers, but they were okay, they

(39:00):
were not. There was a difference between looking at his
numbers and watching him and then when you watched him
and you sort of folded in just the ongoing drama
that was the New York Jets last year. What I'm
kind of curious is, look, I think I think the
Pittsburgh Steelers did something here that is sort of beneath
themselves and just letting Aaron dictate how things were gonna

(39:20):
play out. But they were desperate. You're not used to
hearing or seeing the Pittsburgh Steelers act out of out
of desperation, but that is it feels to me, It's
always felt like a strong willed organization, where the New
York Jets are a dumpster fire, and so they kind
of let Aaron Rodgers do what he wants and they,
you know, trade for his friends and bring in his

(39:41):
buddy as the offensive coordinator. And maybe they moved on
from the head coach during the season because Aaron Rodgers
wanted him to. I don't know that the Pittsburgh Steelers
are gonna acquiesce or bend to the knee of Aaron
Rodgers the way the Jets did, and maybe he's okay
with that. Maybe it's gonna work. Pittsburgh was a playoff
team last year without him, but that organization's ceiling in

(40:02):
recent years has not been very high. I think Aaron
Rodgers raises it. I don't think he raises it to
the level that you really consider them bona fide AFC
North Championship contenders. But he is certainly interesting as a quarterback.
I think as a guy, I couldn't find Aaron Rodgers
to be less interesting, to be honest with you, But

(40:24):
a Hall of Fame QB at this stage in his career,
going to Pittsburgh, a franchise that has become starved for
advancing in the postseason, that has had a lot of
regular season success, but has had a limitation of what
they can do in the postseason. And that dynamic taking
place in a division that includes Lamar Jackson and Joe
Burrow is fascinating as a football fan. I'm fascinated as

(40:45):
a Bengals fan. I'm more concerned about the Bengals defense,
regardless of who plays quarterback for the Pittsburgh Steelers. More
on that coming up here in just a bit. Our
phone lines are opened. By the way, five win, three, seven, four, nine,
fifteen thirty is our phone number. We started the show
by kind of banging on the Reds, who are three hundred,
five hundred. They lose two out of three to Milwaukee.

(41:08):
I will say this, I had no issue with Terry
Francona putting the ball in the hands of Wade Miley yesterday.
That still was a tough position for him to be in.
In the ninth inning, he looked like he was throwing
batting practice. My bigger issue is and yours is for
your Reds fan, I'm sure is thirty and thirty three,
thirty and thirty three, nine games out of first place

(41:28):
in the division, and another season that just feels like
it's slipping away. Another season that feels and looks and
sounds like so many that have come before it. Another
season where we're now simply hoping they can scratch and

(41:49):
claw their way to pseudo contention, not necessarily expecting them
to be in the playoffs. Another season of at best
wondering are they buyers or sellers? And in some cases
some have already written the piece about how they should
be sellers. You are completely reasonable if you have arrived

(42:17):
at the conclusion that what the Reds are doing isn't working,
because it's not. I mean, you know, two years ago,
it was two years ago this week, Elli deler Cruiz
got called up, Matt McClain had been here, Andrew Abbat
just got called up, and the Reds took off, and
that felt like the start of something special. That felt

(42:39):
like the start of something big. Two years later, this
team is below five hundred, they're nine at a first place.
It doesn't feel like the Reds are doing anything special.
It doesn't feel like that twenty twenty five is a
continuation of twenty twenty three. It doesn't feel like they
have used the last two seasons to build upon the

(42:59):
foundation laid down in twenty twenty three. It's not working.
The scary thing for me, though, is if that continues
to be the case it's not working, then what we

(43:20):
get to the end of the season, and whether it's
ownership or nick crawl or whatever, we've arrived at the
conclusion this isn't working. What happens then, Because I think
there's two possibilities. One is just run it back, baby,

(43:41):
he just run it back, right, Just run it back
and hope for better luck, hope for certain players to
perform better individually. Just run it back, baby, talk about
low ceilings running it back, okay? Or and this might

(44:04):
even be worse, blow it up, because we know what
blow it up here looks like. The few times in
recent history that the Reds have hit the reset button,
we know what those short term results look like. Blow
it up in you know, twenty fifteen, which in itself

(44:25):
was a disastrous season, meant ninety four losses in twenty sixteen,
ninety four losses in twenty seventeen, and ninety five losses
in twenty eighteen, an absolute bottoming out of attendance, blowing
it up while they did good. Things turned around quickly
in twenty twenty three, starting over prior to the twenty

(44:46):
twenty two season gave us one hundred losses. So you
know that, to me is the real sobering thing here, right,
this isn't working. The season to this point has been
I think a mild disappointment, and I say mild disappointment

(45:06):
because it's not like many of us thought the Reds
were gonna win ninety five games. That's also part of
this two here. By the way, a thirty and thirty
three season is supposed to be a huge disappointment, but
around here where we just simply shrug our shoulders and
hope they can get to eighty five wins and that's
gonna be enough. Well, you know, they're on track for
seventy seven wins. If I would have said before the season,

(45:28):
the Reds are gonna win seventy seven games, you might
not have liked it, but it would have made sense.
It was like I said, the Reds were gonna, you know,
go ninety seven and whatever that is, sixty five like
seventy seven wins. This pace kind of felt, you know what,
maybe a little disappointing, but about right, that's the frustrating.
Thirty and thirty three should feel like a massive amount

(45:49):
of underachievement. It should feel like a massive failure. Instead,
it just it just sort of blends in with all
the other seasons where they've kind of been where they
are right now. But I think the real sobering thing is,
like this season comes to an end, it's one of

(46:09):
two things. It's run it back. They just run it back.
Come on, this core, we still like it? Okay, with
each passing day, it's more and more difficult to like
or start over. Start over here means you absorb a
lot of short term pain. I don't think that that's
gonna be the case. But I mean, we were constantly

(46:34):
talking about next year, what next year is gonna look like,
And at the end of the twenty twenty three season,
next year was this beacon of hope, Like, all right,
they established what the core is gonna be moving forward.
Now in twenty four they can build upon that eighty
two win team in twenty twenty three. Here we go.
Didn't happen this year. It was well, you know that
the manager, just the new manager, and some guys are

(46:57):
gonna be healthier and we're gonna be just okay, let's
see the players who are supposed to be healthier haven't
played well, some players have continued to not be healthy,
and the new manager has made almost no impact. So
so what what's next year? What's what's next? What's next year?
And I I don't think they're going to blow it

(47:19):
up at the end of the season, although I certainly
do think it's worthwhile to think about them moving on
from some assets that they could get something for it
this year's trade deadline. But the longer this goes without working,
the more and more likely at some point a restart becomes. Historically,

(47:44):
when the Reds restart, the immediate results are really really
hard to live through. And I think it would be
beyond fascinating to listen to what folks would say if

(48:05):
they ever had to restart again without winning before they
hit the restart button. Hopefully they don't have to, But
like when your season is where this one is, and like,
I know how you might be hearing that, I know
how others will hear it, Like you know you're giving
up on the season. They've got ninety nine games to go.

(48:28):
H yeah. But if the idea, which I hoped it was,
was to win something that matters this season, I simply
do not know how this team is currently constructed can
play so well that that ends up being what they do.
We'll see. But the longer they go without winning with

(48:50):
this bunch they have, you could argue, the more and
more the opportunity is wasted. You could argue more and
more the more they can get closer to hitting the
reset button. I don't have to hit the reset button.
That is the toughest sell in the history of Cincinnati sports.

(49:13):
You know, I've done the topic many many times that
the you know, being a Reds fan is like it's
like being a customer at a restaurant where they tell
your table's not ready and you gotta wait by the bar,
and you keep waiting, and keep waiting and keep waiting.
It's like that Seinfeld episode where they're waiting in the
Chinese restaurant. At some point you just go, man, screw it.
Like I'm tired of being told it's going to be

(49:35):
another twenty minutes. I just I'm done.

Speaker 8 (49:37):
Man.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
This franchise cannot afford to tell people to keep waiting
and all. This year's message has been regardless of what
comes out of Tito the Magnificence mouth, regardless of what
anybody in upper management says, The message so far this
year has been when we gotta wait a little bit longer.
It's gotta wait a little bit longer. Okay, sixteen minutes

(49:59):
afterfore a close five three seven, four nine, fifteen thirty.
As as our phone number eight sixty six seven oh
two three seven seven six, I can get you in
as well. I do have a small request that I'm
gonna make in the five o'clock are one simple small
request a poll question to address, which is out there
on Twitter thanks to United Heartland Insurance. ESPN's Jeremy Fowler

(50:22):
is a really good reporter, print, website, TV for ESPN
dot com, and he has long had a focus on
the AFC North. He now covers the league as a whole.
He's come up with some trade proposals. One of them
involves Trey Hendrickson. We'll discuss it next on ESPN fifteen
thirty Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

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(51:40):
By the way, I'm supposed to mention this, Aaron Rodgers
is signing with the Pittsburgh Steelers. I's got a text.
Are you worried? I'm worried about the Bengals because I'm
not sure how good their defense is going to be.
Their defense couldn't stop Russell Wilson last year. If the
defense is just as bad, Yeah, I worry about them
against everybody. I worry about them against whoever. The Browns
have a quarter week one. I forget the Steelers like

(52:03):
name the quarterback. Yes, I'm worried. So if the Bengals
fix their defense, I think they're gonna be okay because
I'll take their quarterback.

Speaker 4 (52:11):
Can we get the Fy North back on hard knocks?

Speaker 2 (52:13):
That would be good. They're doing the NFC East this year,
but yeah, that would be cool. That'd be cool. Let's see.
So Jeremy Fallo anyway, covers the NFL for ESPN. He
has a column today, is very good at what he
does where he proposes some trades, and obviously Trey Hendrickson
keeps being talked about outside of Cincinnati as a potential

(52:34):
trade candidate. Now now, nobody here seems to think there's
any chance the Bengals trade Trey Hendrickson. Paul Danner Junior
joined us on Tuesday. We talked about that extensively. You
can find that conversation on the iHeartRadio app. Nobody here,
and I think understandably so, believes the Bengals are gonna
trade Trey Hendrickson this offseason. But that hasn't stopped many

(52:57):
from speculating that he could be traded. I mentioned I
was in Chicago this past weekend and turn on Chicago
Sports Talk radio on the way to Wrigley Field, and
there they are talking about the Bengals trading for Trey Hendrickson.
And I'm listening to a show on Sunday morning in Milwaukee,
a Milwaukee base show, and they're talking about the Packers
and Trey Hendrickson, and I'm going, that's cool at all.

(53:18):
And I get why you guys want Trey Hendrickson, but
Ben wasn't gonna trade him. Nonetheless, that hasn't stopped our guy,
Jeremy Fowler. Whose offer, whose trade? His hypothetical trade has
the Bengals trading Trey Hendrickson to the Colts, where he
would reunite with Louenrumo, and in exchange, the Bengals would

(53:39):
get a twenty twenty six second round pick and a
twenty twenty seven fifth round pick. Now here's what he writes.
I don't want to give all of Jeremy's content away,
so you can go and read the rest at ESPN
dot com. But he writes why this deal makes sense
for both sides. This sort of urgent move from indiegm

(54:00):
Chris Ballor would solidify the edge of new coordinator lou
and Arumo's defense, and Aaruma would gladly reunite with Hendrickson
after they spend four seasons together in Cincinnati. He continues
for the Bengals. It's clear the Bengals aren't getting a
first rounder for Hendrickson or else a deal would have
would have been done by now, but the elite pass

(54:21):
rusher still has immense value. They would be smart to
capitalize on a trade like this if they aren't going
to pay him what he wants. Colts have around twenty
million dollars in cap space to orchestrate a new contract
for Hendrickson again. Go read more at ESPN dot com. Nope,

(54:43):
oh I can elaborate. Uh no, no, no, Look, they're
not going to get a first rounder for Trey. And
if they weren't going to get a first rounder for
Trey before the draft, they're not going to get one now.
Now things could change if a team gets desperate, If
a team if Trey decides I'm not gonna to play,
and he's sitting out a bunch of games, and there's
a desperate team, and the Bengals have a mini version

(55:05):
of the Carson Palmer situation where another team is offering
them a lot in exchange for a player who's not playing.
No thanks, But I think the Bengals, as most of
us are, are still working under the assumption that Trey
is going to play for them this year. Next week,
by the way, is going to be fascinating because it
is mandatory Mini camp, and as Trey has been told

(55:26):
by Zach Taylor, you can get fined if you don't
attend mini camp, which if trade isn't like that, he
should consult his union because the union has set those
rules for it. The teams confine you for not doing
something that's mandatory. They're operating under the assumption, as most
of us are, that Trey is going to play for
them this year. If I am trading away Trey Hendrickson

(55:51):
while operating under the assumption that he is going to
play for me this season, I need something back that
can help me this season. Just one of the reasons
why it deal. Before the draft, was always more likely
that twenty twenty five pick, had they traded him, could
help this year. A twenty twenty six second round pick
doesn't help me at all this year. I'm trying to
win a championship this season. One of the reasons why

(56:14):
I signed Trey Hendrickson I'm talking from the Bengals perspective.
One of the reasons why I signed Trey Hendrickson to
a contract extension for the twenty twenty five season is
I think he can help us win a title in
twenty twenty five. So if I'm trading away a player
that I signed to a one year contract specifically for

(56:35):
this season so he can help us win a title,
if I'm Duke Tobin or Katie Blackburn or Troy or
Mike Brown or anybody else, I'm only trading him, even
though I'm probably not trading him at all. But I'm
only trading him now if what I get in return
can help me this year. And so obviously that only
comes in the form of an established player, and it

(57:00):
only comes in the form of an established player who
plays edge rusher. Who's going to trade me edge rusher
for edge rusher? Probably no one. And by the way,
I need other stuff too, like I do need some
draft capital thrown in. I'm not accusing Jeremy of this,
who's a marvelous reporter who's been kind enough to join

(57:23):
us on our show. I think some kind of forget
like Trey Hendrickson is under contract to the Bengals. That's
why they would have to trade him, because he is
under contract to them, And you say what you want
about their unwillingness to give him every dime he's looking
for or sign him to this point long term, he
is on the team. He is currently a member of
the Cincinnati Bengals because they think they need him to

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win this year. It's not that dissimilar from T Higgins.
So I'm if I'm running the team, and I think
for the most part, we could be happy that I'm not.
But if I'm running the team and I'm trading away
this guy, who, by the way, I I've offered a
raise to and I haven't dealt him yet, I view
him essential to my chances of winning this year. You

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have to give me something that helps me this year.
If I'm trading that player away, this deal, while I'm
sure well thought out and pretty decently explained, is a
hard no from this guy. Uh, maybe we'll make that
a poll question. Five point three, seven, four, nine, fifteen
thirty can work as well. So Hunter Green unfortunately is

(58:27):
back on the injured list, which this is this growing
thing is one issue his inability to stay healthy. Unfortunately,
is it a different issue. Rhet Lauder is also hurt.
They've had the Austin Hayes injury bug hit them again.
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We do this weekly. We talk injuries and unfortunately, right
now we have a lot of them to discuss with
one of the experts from Orthos sincey Orthopedics in sports medicine.
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only does he frequently come on our show to talk

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about injuries, he's the guy who fixed my neck. I'm
an Orthos Cincy customer Orthos since he also took care
of my daughter's foot and my wife's foot. Basically we're
an Ortho Sincy family. But doctor of Alaskaz is my guy.
It's good to have you. Let's talk about Hunter Green,
so back on the injured list. Taking out felt a

(01:01:14):
little bit of a poll with that groin that put
them on the injured list back in May, and now
back on the injured list after that start on Tuesday night.
The original diagnosis of the first groin strain was a
grade one. Walk me through the different groin straight grades
and how concerned should we be about the red staff
as well.

Speaker 9 (01:01:34):
You know, when you look at these injuries, the growing area,
A lot of time you're talking about the aby doctor
or at doctor, muscle or tandom group. It is the
most of that helped you to cross your leg. So
when you're kicking the ball, you cross the leg or
what you're pushing, you know what you're throwing. That's the
one that you're pushing with. So there's different grades. We

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go one to three. You know, when the grade one
is just a little injury, and I remember there's injury
into the tendon level and there's injury into the muscle level.
Muscle level injury they do better than ten. Don tendon't
take a little bit longer. With a grade two or
either of these places, you will have a little bit
of tear of the muscle or tend on, and a
great three is a complete disruption of the tendon or

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the or the muscle. So I'm assuming the first time
that he came so quick, right, he was having like
a muscle you know, grade one strain, and he was
you know, recover really well.

Speaker 8 (01:02:30):
He was able to come and pay for you know
three out it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
So so are we talking about the possibility here that
maybe he came back a little bit too quickly. Could
he have injured it further where there's a higher grade
on it, And how concerning is this for the red
staff as well?

Speaker 9 (01:02:47):
You know the second time, you know, since since May seven,
right that he has you know, it's a month ago
and he already been on the DL twice, So you know,
I assume the first time you got an MRI, you
you feel feeling where the injury is, and you know,
a grade one, you're probably gonna have several weeks, especially
we've got a strengthening program and and you know these
guys are strong, and then you do a functional testing

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that show you that that he's able to to throw
without pain and he's able to have the same strengthening
on their legs.

Speaker 8 (01:03:16):
So these guys.

Speaker 9 (01:03:17):
Don't get released that easy unless you do a really
thrill examination and physical exam and strengthening, you know, testing
to be sure. But obviously it's concerned when you go
to a second time, he probably aggravated. Maybe he was
strong enough to to to feel everybody feel comfortable, he
will be fine, and then it's only something else happened, right,

(01:03:38):
So obviously it's as a quella from the front is
from the first injury and it's just you know, an aggravation.

Speaker 8 (01:03:45):
And now we're they're gonna be more cautious about it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
Yeah, no question about that, and they should be because
of his obvious importance to the team. Doctor angel Alaska
is from Ortho. Since he is with us, uh, so
I guess we now also have to talk about Ret Louder,
who pitched for the Reds late last season and then
his spring training was interrupted because of an elbow issue.
During a rehab start, he fell to pulling his oblique.

(01:04:10):
The red say it's a fairly significant oblique strain. Oblique
injuries are always weird. I feel like they must be
even more difficult for pitchers because of just everything involved
in the in the motion of pitching a baseball. Let's
talk about obliques. What sort of potential timeline are we
talking about here.

Speaker 9 (01:04:31):
Well, you know obliques that are really really port the
most on overhead alete. You know, baseball players, tennis players,
everybody who will use the upper.

Speaker 8 (01:04:40):
Body to throw a ball or to hit a ball.

Speaker 9 (01:04:44):
You know, right handed pitchers get a bleak mostly over
the left side because that's the side that turned put
all the four startings.

Speaker 8 (01:04:50):
So the ball comes quicker from your hand, and you
know hitters.

Speaker 9 (01:04:54):
Is the other side, the front side, so left handed
heater ry oblique, right hand the heater left obleak.

Speaker 8 (01:04:59):
So it is really coming on pictures.

Speaker 7 (01:05:01):
You know.

Speaker 9 (01:05:01):
Remember he's coming from an injury right on the elbow,
where his spring training was kind of different. That should
be or not the same that he would expect. And
you know there is you know, there's a reason why
you get you know, you report on you know, February,
and then you go and slowly building up and you
know probably after that, staying on the you know, in

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the in the injury list. You know, he wasn't or
his body may not be prepared for all this. You know,
we've always talked about cold weather. You know how it's cold,
your body don't warm up.

Speaker 8 (01:05:33):
Well, all those.

Speaker 9 (01:05:34):
Things affected at least here, you know, he's being cold,
you know, even may so. So definitely, definitely that's something
that could be as a compensation from or changes things
from the elbow injuries or not being functionally strong enough
to do what he has to do in the mouth.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
Yeah, you know, I remember Johnny Quato in twenty thirteen
missed a lot of time. I think that season he
went on the injury list three times. He made eleven starts.
Is this sort of injury more difficult for pictures to overcome?

Speaker 9 (01:06:04):
Well, when you have to say significant or fairly significant injury,
the answer is yes, this is something that will will
taste some times they healed, right, they healed, but a
first significant injury.

Speaker 8 (01:06:15):
We talked about grades. This is not a grade one,
this is not a grade two. This is probably grade
two or Grete three.

Speaker 9 (01:06:20):
Right there, when you use the word firly significant, you're
talking about over a grade two. And we know that
you know, grade one, you know could be four to
six week right two, We were talking about the two months.
So that's why probably they put in a sixty day
you know injury. Listen and you know, I know I
remember Johnny Quadam two the thirteen I was there. You know,
you got your age coming injured. There's a lot of pressure,

(01:06:41):
you know, coming from you know that, you know, thirteenth
season or you know, I should say ten eleven twelve season.

Speaker 8 (01:06:47):
That was really good, I think. So that was a significant,
you know.

Speaker 7 (01:06:52):
Hit for the team.

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
Doctor Angel Alaskas from Ortho. Since the Austin Hayes is
back on the injury list, unfortunately for him and the
Reds the third time this season. He banged the ball
off his foot and I broke my foot doing that
when I was a kid, so I know how painful
that can be. It feels like they've dodged a bullet here.
It's it's not a fracture, but still he's on the
tere list with a foot contusion. Can you explain what

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that is?

Speaker 9 (01:07:17):
Well, food confusion is a bruise into the bond, right,
So he got hit by something, in this case a
foubel and he got inflammation on a soft tissue means
you know, the skin, the tendons, muscle, and then went
into the bond most of the time, you know, those
are those are tricky, right because you can see people
in the league. There's a guy what his name Siri

(01:07:40):
used to be with the Reds. He got a foul
tip on his shin. Three days later whatever time, they
get a city scan and it was a fracture, right,
So those are tricky. You know, they probably did appropriate
you know, testing city scan MRI and there's no bond
damage and or fracture and you know it's a contusion.
So you just need to get the inflammation down, be
sure that he's able to push.

Speaker 8 (01:08:01):
Off without paying.

Speaker 9 (01:08:02):
That's what probably they feel that he could come back ratively,
you know quick. This was what May twenty nine, so
you know June a that'll be you know, fourteen days
right so or close to that, so he should be
able to be back. You know if he's able to walk, jog,
spring and cut and push off and perform on that level.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
All right, one more I want to ask you about,
will slightly switch gears and talk about Nick Haglan, the
Pride of Cincinnati FC. Cincinnati defender in the game a
week and a half ago against Atlanta suffered two broken
ribs and had to deal with a collapsed lung. So
that might not fall under the typical orthopedic category, but still,

(01:08:43):
can you explain to me surgically what's done to repair
a collapsed lung?

Speaker 9 (01:08:49):
Well, you know, first it is you know unfortunately that
that that is like a traumatic event, right, somebody get
hit the motor back locks in this.

Speaker 8 (01:08:57):
Case hit it that egged into a ripcase. And you know,
definitely you know.

Speaker 9 (01:09:02):
The ribs can break, and this case break and one
of them or two of them were you know, display
enough to punsure the long You know, the ribs are
right there on top of the lungs and when they break, there's.

Speaker 8 (01:09:13):
A potential of hitting the loan.

Speaker 9 (01:09:15):
That's why this is one of those things that is important,
not just looking at the testing or the extra for
the refrasher, is to be sure the lung is not collapsed.

Speaker 8 (01:09:24):
So first thing is you need to decompress that.

Speaker 9 (01:09:27):
Long collapsation, and you do that what is called ap
sss to they put a tube into the shed and
let you know the long collapse to repair itself. It is,
you know, that's kind of the simple way to fix it.
And then after that, if your ripcase is off or
display well that ripcase is placed, it is punching the lungs,

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so you have to put on the right place and
address that and secure it. And that's you know, is
done with a plate. Like if you have an ankle fracture,
they put a plate on your ankle. They do the
same thing. It is you know, there's there's titanium plates.
That is a faster recovery, and he's able to come
back ratively quick. Obviously, the bones take six weeks to heal.

(01:10:13):
The question is, you know how bad was the long
collapse and how long it's gonna take for that long
to reinflate again. And he doesn't have any short of
breath or any tequola from that. So for the bony standpoint,
you know, you put the plate and you will recover quick.
Bones healed in six weeks, right, but obviously you know,

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the long collapse is something that you have to keep
rechecking to be sure is healing appropriately.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
Yeah, is he going to be more vulnerable? Would he
have to wear something when he does come back to
protect that area?

Speaker 7 (01:10:43):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (01:10:43):
Not really, you know he has he will have that
that plate right there that it is it is going
to be protecting him, you know, the place kind of
from the outside of the rickcase, so kind of protect
if that breaks again, the place shoe holder in place.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
All right, before we get out of here, we have
to talk about something very imp and I know where
your attention is going to be tomorrow night, six o'clock,
seven o'clock. I think actually in Lexington, your daughter's Holy
Cross Indians taking on Harrison County in the Kentucky High
school state tournaments. Give your daughter's team of Holly Cross
some love for me.

Speaker 8 (01:11:16):
Well, thanks, Tothing. I just get shields right now. I
haven't got shields in a long time, older than then.

Speaker 9 (01:11:21):
After watching that you know, grand slamming the sixth innings,
you know, uh, you know that was that was you know,
create amazing.

Speaker 8 (01:11:30):
And I will tell you something.

Speaker 9 (01:11:32):
This team it's a small school, you know, we know
it's a small you know, private school. We don't have
a lot of kids. It is hard to get kids
to play the sport. Uh, this girl worked really hard.

Speaker 8 (01:11:45):
Will give it.

Speaker 9 (01:11:46):
A lot of credit to you know, their coaches. They
got three Kent Taxis coaches right there. They are working
with them, Corning head coach. And she had believing this kid.

Speaker 8 (01:11:57):
She came from the program and she has worked for
the last four years. So girls, you know, I don't
know if you you know boys and girls different.

Speaker 9 (01:12:04):
I got both of them, and the girls are are
listening more.

Speaker 8 (01:12:08):
They follow a little bit more instruction than my boys.

Speaker 9 (01:12:12):
So I think that that's one of the main things
that this team improved. They got a fantastic starting picture.

Speaker 8 (01:12:18):
That is really important.

Speaker 7 (01:12:19):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (01:12:20):
They're a really young team and they really really really.

Speaker 9 (01:12:23):
Got hot at the right time. They want the all
A for the school. Their their their side, and they
get killed in the state, but they came back and
put down some big school you know like Ryle and.

Speaker 8 (01:12:36):
Highlands in the semi final final of the region. So
really proud them. Will be there actually Friday, ten am.
They're leaving. They're now doing a you know, like a
PEP rally or something at school.

Speaker 9 (01:12:48):
In the next couple of hours to start driving to
Lexington and we'll be there at ten am.

Speaker 8 (01:12:53):
Uh, you know, cheering for them at UK.

Speaker 9 (01:12:56):
Really amazing experience and thank you for the opportunity to
give it a little bit a love to them.

Speaker 8 (01:13:00):
They deserve it. The communities.

Speaker 9 (01:13:03):
They are so excited and hopefully we've got a big
crowd tomorrow there and they can they can you know,
perform the way that they're doing their way.

Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
Yeah, there you go, representing the ninth region tomorrow night
against Harrison County, who I think is ranked tenth in
the state. That game is going to be at seven
o'clock tomorrow. We will be rooting for you and we
can't wait to have again. Doctor Angel Alaskaz or Ortho Sincy.
Thanks so much.

Speaker 8 (01:13:25):
Hey, I'm really fine. We were ranked sixteen. You know
why because nobody believing in the Skids.

Speaker 9 (01:13:31):
They say that they they say that one thing should
not have a problem to go over them and there
I think they are a problem. They are a problem.
That's their team for their season. They believe there are
problem and they believe in theself.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
So thank you, you got it. That's my guy. Doctor
Angel Alaska. Has good luck to holy Cross in the
Kentucky High School Girls Softball tournament taking on Harrison County
tomorrow at seven o'clock. Doctor Angel Alaska has from Orthos Sinsey.
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I got a couple, Well, I got one, and we
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I'm screwing this up royally. Here's my question for you. So,
the Reds have a record that is thirty and thirty three,
three games under five hundred, but their run differential is
plus twenty three. Now, you and I both know that

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that is largely a reflection of a game where they
scored twenty four runs and gave up two. In fact,
since that game against the Orioles, the run differential is
minus nine. But you and I both know that occasionally
someone will try to paint a rosier picture than the
thirty and thirty three record by mentioning the plus twenty
three run differential. And so my question for you is

(01:15:39):
what happens when someone points out the reds good run
differential despite their bad record. Ay, I feel warm and
fuzzy with optimism. B I lash out in anger. See
I leave the conversation. Seventy point two percent of you
leave the conversation now. I also posted this on social media.
I did a retweet on March nineteenth, I asked should

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Bengals fans be rooting for the Steelers to sign Aaron Rodgers?
That was March nineteenth, seventy six point one percent of
you said yes, Aaron Rodgers is indeed to the surprise
of no one signing with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Should we
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not going well for the Reds. You and I both
know this. They're three hundred five hundred, They're nine out
of first place. I don't care. None of us should
care where they are in relation to the Wildcard. They're
currently on pace to win seventy seven games, and by
the way, I think one of the frustrating things about
that is that their record right now is not that
far a cry from what I think you could have

(01:19:01):
predicted the record was gonna be after sixty three games
three months ago, let's say, on March fifth. On March fifth,
if if I would have predicted on this show or
anywhere else that sixty three games in the Reds will
have a record of thirty and thirty three, you might
not have liked it. You might have disagreed, But I

(01:19:22):
don't think you would have been floored. I don't think
you would have been like knocked off your feet, like
you'm like, okay, that sounds about right. They're on pace
to win seventy seven games. At the beginning of the season,
my take was the Reds are gonna go eighty three
and seventy nine. We did the exercise. We do it
every March. I'm looking for folks who believe the Reds

(01:19:42):
are gonna win more than ninety or looking for folks
who think the Reds are gonna lose more than ninety.
If I would have said the Reds are gonna go
seventy seven and eighty five, you might not have liked it.
You might have disagreed, but I don't think you would
have been like whoa mo Like they're over under for
the sea And I think was what seventy eight and
a half. So you'll hear people say the Reds have underachieved.

(01:20:06):
I think what's frustrating about this organization as a whole
is they really haven't underachieved. Now, some players certainly have individually,
and the organization, top to bottom, you could argue has
for a couple of decades. Now. I think one of
the more painful things about this season is it's it's

(01:20:27):
not that sharp a departure from what most of us expected.
It's not good. We have played a lot of Terry
Francona audio because that's what happens when you're the manager.
You have to speak to the media multiple times per day,
and what you say, especially when you're a manager of

(01:20:47):
Francona's stature, and fame get it gets aired, and it
gets talked about, and people pay closer attention to it
than maybe with other managers some And I don't know
if this is more of a social media thing than
anything else. And social, by the way, social media right now,
let's just say, I'm glad I live in a little

(01:21:09):
sports cocoon. But I don't know if this has been
more of a social media thing. But a lot of
folks have looked at Terry Francona, and I think because
of the frustration that is he's expressed, or how he's looked,
or because of maybe some of the more sobering realities
that the Reds are dealing with right now, many have

(01:21:31):
either wondered is he gonna live out his contract? Not
live out? Is he gonna Is he gonna work through
the end of his contract? Is he gonna leave at
the end of this year? Is he gonna leave during
the season. We had a guy called the Show I
think two weeks ago, predicted that Tito's gonna leave during
the All Star break. That might be a little bit much.
That said, I'm gonna try to put this as responsibly

(01:21:55):
as I can. Terry Francona is a sixty six year
old man, which, by the way, that's not ancient by
any stretch, But as a sixty six year old man
who's walked away from the dugout before in part because
of health issues, he has an impeccable resume. He has

(01:22:16):
checked off every box a manager could check. There's nothing
left to be checked. He is managing a team right
now that seems to have a pretty low ceiling. When
he took the job, one of the talking points was
this is not a guy who's doing this for ten years.

(01:22:38):
He sees the potential in Cincinnati because he signed what
was a three year contract. We're not exactly talking about
somebody who's twenty years younger. Like he's looking to win
right now. This isn't a five, six, seven, eight year
process like it's it's get the gig, establish yourself and
hire a staff, and let's start winning. I don't think

(01:22:58):
it's unreasonable to at least wonder if at the end
of the season he says to himself, why am I
gonna do this? Now? They're paying him handsomely, paying them
I think it's like six million dollars. They're paying them handsomely,
and so that might be the reason he decides to
suck it up and send the Reds dugout and try

(01:23:19):
to do the best that he can. And by the way,
maybe he does, and maybe the Reds win, and maybe
they go back to the postseason, and maybe they advance
in the postseason, and Terry Francona can add something to
an already awesome resume. But like, I don't think it's
unreasonable for a manager of his stature, for a manager
of his background, for a manager who has, let's face it,
walked away once in large part because of health issues.

(01:23:41):
I don't think it's unreasonable to wonder, at the end
of the year, is he gonna go, yeah, you know what,
this is going great? He may. It's a big part
of me that hopes he does, or does he go,
you know what, man like this, I'm good. And a
lot of that might have to do with how he

(01:24:02):
looks at the state of the team, the direction the
front office is going in, who's going to be working
for like all that stuff. I also think it is
completely fair to wonder if what he thought he was
walking into has matched reality. Now, if you remember when
Tito Francona got hired, Tito the magnificent When he got hired,

(01:24:26):
A lot of people took that as a sign that
the Reds were about to spend big money by the
way they spent some do this offseason. But that wasn't
the conclusion that I drew. Maybe you did. The conclusion
I drew was Tito likes what the Reds are doing,
looks at the team, looks at the organization, looks at
the structure of the organization, looks at what they have

(01:24:46):
on the roster, looks at what they have coming down
the pipeline. Has had conversations about the way the off
season is going to unfold with Nick Krawl, and he
likes what he sees, he likes what he hears, and
he things this is going to to be a good fit.
I don't think for a second that he did this
because it was a paycheck. I certainly don't believe that
he took the job because he thought the Reds were

(01:25:07):
suddenly going to start spending in ways they haven't in
recent years. I think he looked at the Reds and said,
that's an organization that I can win with. I could
add my expertise, I can take advantage of my experience
in my background and blend it into what the Reds
already have, and I think it's gonna work. I wonder
if what he thought he was getting into has matched reality.

(01:25:30):
I have no way of knowing that, neither do you.
The only person who knows that is Terry Francona, and
chances are, at least while he's still employed by the Reds,
he's not going to talk about that publicly. But I
think it would be fascinating if you could sit down
with him and give him a moment of truth and
asked him, like, all right, when you took this job,
did you think it was something that it's turned think
it was something different than it's turned out to be.

(01:25:52):
I don't know, but if the answer were to be yes,
just put yourself in his shoes. Okay, you've accomplished everything.
Sixty six years old, health issues have driven you from
the game, impeccable resume. You're not holding on for one
more shot at the brass ring. Right If what you're
dealing with doesn't match what you thought you were getting into,

(01:26:15):
maybe you don't think about quitting. Maybe you don't think
about stepping away. Maybe you don't think about giving up
the money that you're owed, but a lot of us would.
A lot of us would again like, these are all
things that are going to be on the table as
long as the Reds aren't winning. These are all things
that are going to be up for discussion until the

(01:26:37):
fortunes of the club change, until the quality of the
club changes, and until the manager isn't looking totally exasperated
after so many losses, like I'll be honest with you, man,
like Terry Francona's higher was about vibe and energy as
much as anything and accountability, and you know, I don't

(01:27:01):
think anybody back in October was like, you know what
Terry Francona is really good at is deciding which batter
should bat in the eighth inning or which picture he
should use in the seventh. Obviously, over the course of
his career he's mastered that to a large degree. But
it was about accountability. But it was also about like
this this fresh start, this energy, you know he was.
He talked so extensively publicly about how enthusiastic he was,

(01:27:24):
how renewed his energy was. He took a year off
and he was so excited. I certainly do not expect
him when they lose games to do a comedy routine.
I don't expect him to sit in his office and
hand out cigars and say, hey, sit back and let
me tell stories about, you know, my time in Philly.
But you know, you do look at him and it's

(01:27:47):
like the energy is not there, the vibe is not there.
And so I do not want to be irresponsible when
we talk about this, because he may be having the
time of his life and he may genuinely think like,
all right, we've hit some speed bumps, but we're gonna
be okay, and I can win here. And you know,
I've seen Jim Day ask him on a couple of

(01:28:09):
different occasions, like healthwise, how you holding up, and he
says he feels great, and I obviously we all do
hope that's the case. And we all want this to work.
Man Like, if you care at all about the Cincinnati Reds,
this doesn't do anybody any good if it doesn't work.
We all want this to work. We all want this
to work because we love the Reds. We also love
a good story, like Terry Francona polishing off his Hall

(01:28:33):
of Fame resume by becoming one of a handful of
managers to win the world Series for two different franchises
and go to the World Series with three different franchises.
It's awesome, like, we all want this to work. But
until it starts working, which it's not right now, this
does become part of the discourse his future. By the way,

(01:28:56):
there are a lot of I listened to sports talk
radio in Kansas City because a guy who I really
really like does one of the shows there. And at
the end of every Kansas City chief season, at the
end of every single Kansas City Chief season, whether the
Chiefs win the title or whether they lose the Super Bowl,
which is kind of all they do anymore, unless they
play the Bengals in the AFC Championship Game, which they

(01:29:18):
lost one of those. At the end of every single one,
they talk about Andy Reid, who's sixty seven years old
now has accomplished everything, is going to the Hall of Fame.
They talk about, is he going to decide to come
back this This becomes a part of the discourse around
the Reds Terry Francona, And you know, let's be honest,

(01:29:41):
what Terry Francona has accomplished as a baseball manager dramatically
outshines what the Cincinnati Reds have accomplished as an organization
over the last couple of decades. Let's just make it
about from two thousand and four on what Terry Frank
Kona has accomplished, what he has put on his resume

(01:30:02):
as a manager dwarfs what the Reds have accomplished. So
there's sort of a like ugly guy dating the hot
chick dynamic and play here right like it is a
little bit of a weird match. And at some point
you know it just okay, I'm the good looking girl.

(01:30:22):
Why am I with this schlap? And then you add
to it the other things you add to it. Unfortunately
that he has had some health issues he has had
He's been very very public about how you know, how
hard it was at times while he was in Cleveland
from a physical standpoint. Again, I hope to God all
that's okay. I totally understand where the conversations are coming from.

(01:30:44):
I will not be as irresponsible as to say that
I think he's gonna leave at the All Star break
or he's gonna hang it up and quit, like I
hope he doesn't. I hope he doesn't, because then if
he does, then it's like a whole new series of restarts,
and god knows what his franchise. We're all tired of
the restarts. But yeah, man like, until this changes, until

(01:31:04):
this looks, feels and sounds different, until they start winning.
And as long as the manager of the Reds looks
as defeated as he often has this season, how do
you not wonder if he's really going to be in
it for the long haul. It's nineteen minutes after five
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Speaker 4 (01:32:19):
Chad Brendle?

Speaker 2 (01:32:19):
Chad Brenda will be here tomorrow. Who's doing your job? Austin,
Austin Elmore and Chad Brendle tomorrow and then you're off
on Monday. I am, what do I have on Monday?
I think Austin again. Austin again. Very good. We've I've
seen some new people hanging around. Have you trained the
new guy yet?

Speaker 9 (01:32:38):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:32:38):
Honestly, I don't think they're going to let me train them.

Speaker 2 (01:32:44):
Is there a reason why? No?

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There really isn't. Good. Yeah, they don't.

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We have a new guy and then a new young.

Speaker 4 (01:32:51):
Guy guitar field. They don't need to learn your show.

Speaker 2 (01:32:52):
I understand it doesn't neither. So so we're never the
new guys never, Because this show is really hard to do.
This is the easiest nothing tarn you do a great job.
This is of all the things you get asked to do,
this is the easiest one because I am the easiest
on air personality to deal.

Speaker 4 (01:33:06):
With, yes, from that standpoint, but they need to learn
a little kinks about you, the.

Speaker 2 (01:33:12):
Kinks, the idiosyncrasies. There are some kinks. There's some things
that I do are a little bit all right, But
I'm not difficult to work with, right, No, no, no, okay,
I could tell and none of them work here. Now
I could tell you who the difficult hosts to work
with when I was a producer were. None of them
are currently working here. I don't know if the guy's

(01:33:35):
in radio. And there's a dude named Michael Graham who
used to do shows on the weekends and he would
do him from wherever he was. You talk about like
difficult talent, Like just mean to whoever was behind the
board that guy, Michael Graham, Michael Graham. I have no
remote idea what that guy does professionally. He might be
in radio somewhere. Still, he was a fill in host

(01:33:57):
on the weekends and I was a producer, and and
just I remember thinking to myself, if I am ever
given a chance to be on the air, I'm not
going to behave like this guy. So I could, I could,
I could write a book, actually, about my producing days.
I might do an entire chapter on Michael Graham that maybe,

(01:34:21):
but look up for me on the internet, like Michael
Graham radio. If he's doing radio anywhere, got I hope
he's changed. God, God, you know it's been twenty five years.
If he's still on the air, God help his producer.
Because he was. I'm not even going to use the
word to describe what he was. Aaron Rodgers is going
to be a Pittsburgh Steeler. So this is as an

(01:34:43):
NFL fan, I think it's fun. I think it's interesting.
As an NFL fan, we wrote for interesting storylines. A
future Hall of Fame quarterback joining a franchise like the
Steelers with this strong willed head coach and a pretty
good roster is interesting. And how he's going to exert

(01:35:05):
influence over Pittsburgh is interesting. And at this stage in
his career, could he play at a championship level? Is interesting?
And what happens if it goes wrong, what happens if
it goes south? What could that mean for Mike Tomlin,
who hasn't won a playoff game in forever? What could
that mean for the organization? Like it's a fascinating dynamic,
and frankly, Aaron Rodgers to the Steelers is more interesting

(01:35:26):
than Aaron Rodgers to the Jets or Aaron Rodgers to
any number of teams. If I'm a Steelers fan, all right,
let's go. I don't love that my franchise was so
desperate to allow Aaron Rodgers to dictate their offseason, but fine,
let's go. He is a better option than Mason Rudolph.

Speaker 7 (01:35:44):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:35:44):
So as a Bengals fan, though, I don't think you
should care because Aaron Rodgers' presence in the AFC North
does nothing to alter the questions that we will discuss
ad nauseum between now and the start of the season.
Here's a true statement. The Bengals have to get dramatically

(01:36:08):
better on defense. That's a true statement. If Justin Fields
is Pittsburgh's quarterback, if Mason Rudolph is Pittsburgh's quarterback, if
Ben Roethlisberger comes out of retirement doing god knows what
he's doing to be their quarterback, or if Aaron Rodgers
is their quarterback, it doesn't matter. My concerns about the

(01:36:29):
Cincinnati Bengals this year are totally independent of their opponents. Now,
do I think the Steelers have a better chance of
contending in the AFC North. Sure, I still think it's
either Pittsburgh. I'm sorry, I still think it's either Baltimore
or Cincinnati. And are the Steelers going to be more
difficult to beat with Aaron Rodgers? Sure, I guess so.
But look, man Russell Wilson came to town and the

(01:36:50):
Bengals could not stop the Steelers in that game at
what used to be called Paul Brown Stadium. Forget about
Aaron Rodgers. Like it's an interesting story. Burrow versus Rogers
will gain a lot of headlines. The first game will
be in prime time, which will be awesome, provided the
Bengals have fixed their stuff this offseason. And you know,
I mean, obviously you could also add to it the

(01:37:11):
Trey Hendrickson thing, but like have, it's the question of
the off season. And I do subscribe to the basic
belief that well Al Golden doesn't exactly have to have
the two thousand Ravens on the field. But I also
do subscribe to the belief that to go from what
they were to what they need to be to contend
for a championship, that is a big, big, big leap.

(01:37:38):
So like, as a Bengals fan, Aaron Rodgers does not
move the meter at all. It would if the Bengals, Hey,
they're a top the mountain and you gonna forget about
anybody else. Fix the team, fix the offensive line, fix

(01:37:59):
the defense, ensure that Joe Burrow isn't on the run
so often, Ensure that he plays every single game that matters.
And some of this stuff may happen. I'm always gonna
take my chances with Joe Burrow. But like the statements
that are true about the Cincinnati Bengals right now with
Pittsburgh Steelers having Aaron Rodgers as their quarterback, they were

(01:38:22):
true this morning, they were true four months ago. Concerns
about how much they've look this has been from a
player acquisition standpoint, It's been a pretty underwhelming all season.
I mean, maybe not an unproductive one. But six months ago,
if I would have said here's how the off season
is gonna go, and I outlined for you the way

(01:38:42):
it has gone, you would have said, you would have
made a sound, You would have made a face before
you said anything. That concerns me more than Aaron Rodgers. Again,
absolutely monster story, interesting storyline. I think Aaron Rodgers raises
the Steelers ceiling as we talk today. If we were

(01:39:04):
to rank teams in order of most likely to get
to the Super Bowl out of the AFC, I probably
still have them roughly where they were this morning. But
if you care about the Bengals, Aaron Rodgers doesn't move
the meter at all. He may be better equipped to
expose some of their deficiencies. But I'm worried about them

(01:39:28):
beating the Cleveland Browns and Jacksonville Jaguars first two games
and being able to beat inferior teams with hopefully an
improved defense. And if they show they can do that,
then we'll start to talk about how they do against
better teams and better quarterbacks, including some they play way
before they play the Pittsburgh Steelers twenty eight away from

(01:39:51):
six o'clock. I have yet to get to my simple request,
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(01:41:52):
I think it's a slightly better series, and I think
it's a better series of games than a lot of
people are predicting. Sort to say people are sleeping on
the Pacers. I do think people. I think a lot
of more casual observers kind of forget how good Indiana
is offensively. That is not just limited to how they

(01:42:12):
played against the Knicks. We've seen it all playoffs, long
second most offensively efficient team so far here in the postseason. Ultimately,
I'll take the team that has just the better overall
team in Oklahoma City does in large part because of
their defense, But I think Indy's offense is good enough
to make this certainly a fun series, a compelling matchup,

(01:42:34):
and a series that goes six. I'll buy that at
plus four to ten. And I think if you're going
to do that, by the way, if you think Indiana
is good enough to win some games in this series,
then buy the money line for the road games and
try to capitalize on the value Indy has been good
on the road here in the postseason. I think this
is a bit of a litmus test NBA Finals, and
everybody's expecting the ratings to be low, which you and

(01:42:56):
I both know. There're gonna be a lot of bad
faith actors out there who use that to make some
larger point. Ignore those folks. I typically do. But it's
Oklahoma City, and it's Indiana, and there's no Lebron and
there's no Steph and there's no big market. And if
the series is not great, the ratings are only going
to be worse. We will see. But I do think
this is a bit of a litmus test because for years,

(01:43:19):
you know, I listened to people say, well they didn't
want the big markets. Okay, well we're giving you Oklahoma
City in Indianapolis well, we're tired of the same team.
By the way the NBA, we're gonna have a different
NBA title winner for the seventh consecutive year. Don't like
the iso ball, non stop just chucking of threes that

(01:43:43):
we see throughout the league. Do The Indiana Pacers are
a blast to watch offensively, not so much when they're
playing against your team, but they're kind of the antithesis
stylistically offensively from what a lot of people complain about
the league. You know, folks used to complain about, Well,
I don't like super teams. I want to see teams
that quote do it the right way. Now I'm not

(01:44:03):
sure what do it the right way means to me.
The right way is the way that involves winning, but
the way the rules have changed, it's kind of hard
to build a super team anymore, especially one that you
can carry through for years and years and the years.
Number two, the quote right way has been embodied by
how the Thunder and Pacers have been built. So it's

(01:44:25):
I think it's a compelling basketball series. I think what
Oklahoma City does offensively and how many I'm sorry, what
Oklahoma City does defensively, on top of just the depth
of their team and the number of guys they play,
mixed with how good Indiana is and how many guys
they play, and the different speeds at which they showed
they can play against the Knicks. I think stylistically it's

(01:44:48):
a fascinating series. There might not be a transcendent star,
but I think it's fun to watch players use the
NBA Finals as a platform to become a transcendent star. See.
So the ratings are probably gonna be awful, which who
cares unless you're an ABC or ESPN executive. But I've

(01:45:10):
heard a lot of folks who have complained about a
lot of things that this series and these teams are
the antithesis of. I'm curious as to how many of
those folks will actually mean what they say when they
say they want something different, because this Finals gives those
folks something different. And I couldn't care less whether people
watch or don't. They'll talk about it if it's a
compelling series. I'm certainly gonna watch because I love basketball.

(01:45:32):
I'm gonna root for my wagers. I'm gonna root for
Obi Toppin, But we'll see. I think it's this is
I am a big believer in at times people don't
say what they mean right. They want upsets in the
NCAA tournament, But then what happened in the tournament this year?
It was chalky and the ratings were awesome. When I

(01:45:55):
hear people say they're tired of Lebron and Staph, well,
I still bring a lot of eyeballs. So do super teams,
so do dynasties. We'll see. I think if you like basketball,
this is a very compelling matchup. And by the way,
I think I'm a Knicks fan. Had the Knicks played
ok See, first of all, they wouldn't have fired their coach. Secondly,

(01:46:18):
they lose that series in five. Like I was resigned
to that. I you know, even before they played Indiana,
I'm going, okay, Okayse's gonna come out of the West.
I don't think New York can win more than a game.
I think the Pacers can make this a pretty interesting series,
and so I got OKC in six. I've seen people
suggest the most likely outcome is going to be a
gentleman sweep. Had somebody in the office today guaranteeing a sweep,

(01:46:42):
I'm not gonna that could change my mind. By the
eight minute mark of the second quarter. But I Arren,
you and I are in the same page. You like,
ok see, but in more than five yes, very good,
seventeen away from us. We are not carrying those games though, correct?
Is that my understanding?

Speaker 4 (01:47:00):
I believe we are. Yeah, correct, We're not carring.

Speaker 2 (01:47:02):
Not caring. We are an ESPN affiliate, not carrying the
NBA Finals. So when a couple of years ago I
said we were carrying it, we didn't. I got a
nasty email. Don't send me your emails.

Speaker 4 (01:47:15):
I wish you were caring it.

Speaker 2 (01:47:16):
Sure, yeah, it'd be cool to say we have the
NBA Finals on our station, but alas that's life. Uh,
seventeen away from six o'clock. I have a very brief request.
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sound like Terry Francona after a Red's loss.

Speaker 4 (01:49:26):
You have no answers either, I.

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Got no answers. I just give me catch mark or
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Uh So pull questions on this show. You know you
hear all the time about how the Reds have such
a great run differential. It's a plus twenty three. Now

(01:49:49):
they've scored twenty three more runs than they have given
up this season. And so, as a I guess a
method of making Reds fans feel better or making themselves
feel better, you will hear people say, hey, look, they
might not have a good record, but the run differential
is plus twenty three. And so I've asked on social

(01:50:10):
media what happens when someone points out the reds good
run differential despite their bad record. Option A. I feel
warm and fuzzy with optimism. Option B. I lash out
in anger. Option see I leave the conversation. Seventy point
eight percent of you leave the conversation. I make very
few requests. But as this season unfolds and there are

(01:50:35):
ninety nine games to go, please, for the love of God,
spare me the run differential talk spare me, do not
spare me. When it comes to analytics, information, stats, anything
that can tell a story. You lose me with run differential.

(01:50:58):
They've scored twenty three more runs than they've allowed, in
large part because they scored twenty four runs in a game.
The ultimate aberration hung a bunch of runs against Oriole's
position players. Good for them for doing it. It's a
fun day. Since then, the run differential is minus nine.
I don't know if there is anything that causes me

(01:51:19):
to lose attention more than when I hear about, well,
the run differential isn't all that bad, the win loss
record is. I would rather go to a pit Bull
concert than listen to somebody talk about the Reds good
run differential when they don't have a winning record. Legitimately,
you have two options, MO. You could listen to every
song in pit Bull's catalog, or I could explain to

(01:51:40):
you the Reds run differential. Gimme Pitbull. I mean hearing
about run differential. I'd rather look at your vacation photos.
I'd rather hear about your fantasy football team. I'd rather
hear about what you and your significant other do in
the bedroom. Quite honestly, I'd rather hear about almost anything.
Then with the you know mo the run differential, like

(01:52:05):
something happens inside me. I just I don't know what
it is. I'd rather listen to stories about dating adventures.
I'd rather go watch superhero movies. There's there's just absolutely

(01:52:25):
and I'm not a big superhero movies guy. That's why
I said that.

Speaker 4 (01:52:27):
I think we got the picture when you said you
were to listen to Pitbull.

Speaker 2 (01:52:30):
Yeah, I mean legitimately, if you give me two topics, Hey,
we could talk about these two things, Red's run differential
or anything. I'll take anything. Whatever the other topic is,
let's discuss it. I mean it could it could be
something disgusting. Let's discuss let's let's have a conversation. I

(01:52:53):
would rather talk politics. I would rather listen to your
political takes, which I'm not into at all, than any
sort of theory about the Reds run differential. In what
it says now at the Reds are like nine games
over five hundred. We want to talk about run differential.
Do have at it as long as the Reds have
more losses than wins. I cannot listen to anybody who

(01:53:18):
wants to bring up positive run differential. I might sound
like a caveman, I might sound on educated. That's not
the first time that's happened. Legitimately, would rather hear about
almost anything. That's my simple basic request, Thank you very much.
I gotta leave in the ballpark yesterday, you know, plus

(01:53:42):
twenty three, like Wade Miley pitching batting practice in his
beginning of a second Red stint, not a good day
for people who are clinging to run different I just
I care about new stats, and I mean in for
all of it run differential when your team has more
losses than wins, especially like when we all know they

(01:54:04):
won game they scored twenty four runs. That's why their
run differential is so good. By the way, it's fourth
best in the division, just like their record's fourth best
in the division. Where the losses outweigh the wins. We
have to go. Show's over. Chad Brendel fills in tomorrow.
I am off back at it on Monday. Uh, don't forget,

(01:54:26):
since three sixty is tomorrow at noon We are back
Monday at three oh five. Have an unbelievable night, maybe
the best of your life, and have a great weekend too.
This has been the michelob Ultra of five o'clock Happy
Hour on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

Speaker 6 (01:54:43):
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