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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Agree or disagree with this statement. You're adding, the thing.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Is, on average, people's minds are blank.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Five to twenty percent of the time.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
I was, so, that's a big brain much a fine
blank blank.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Blank? Like I know what you're thinking.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
You are literally thinking about there's forgetting oh like clear? Yes,
Like I don't even want to say you're thinking about nothing,
because then you're still thinking you are not it's just blank.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Because I I can picture drawing a blank right, No,
completely different.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
You're saying that's what you're struggling to come up with
the answer, but you're thinking, okay, what is the answer?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
What is the answer? What is the answer? And I
don't mean a mind fart?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Right? Are you calling a brain fart? Are you saying,
like your meditative past?
Speaker 1 (00:57):
What is that? I don't know what that is.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
I'm sure you had extra sizes where you oh oh
oh oh, I thought you meant like, do people call
it their meditative No? No, for you? Are you saying
clear in that sense?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
No, we're literally there is nothing there.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
I would feel like it's you said twenty percent of
the time, it's a lot high.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Do you have it any percent of the time? No,
I don't feel like, I do.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Get plenty of brain farts and plenty of it.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
But I don't think a brain fart counts.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
You said, because you're like thinking, you're just drawing a blank.
But even like like during yoga classes and we were
telling you to like clear your mind of everything, you're
still thinking of something.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
What are you thinking of?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I often will think of like a beach.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Really, yeah, Now when I do sleep meditations, what is that?
It's just like to go to exercided exercises that they
will tell you, like, now, exhale, does that count?
Speaker 4 (02:03):
I'm not thinking. I'm thinking about listening, but I'm not
thinking about honestly not thinking about anything else.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Maybe that counts. Maybe that counts, and listen. There's no
way none of us experience it.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
They said.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
The average persons are their minds are blank between five
and twenty percent of the time.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
We call those people starers. I call them lucky do you?
When I'm staring? Sometimes maybe I'm not thinking about anything,
But I also know it's rude to stare, so I
try not to.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I'm trying to think what are you staring?
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Like often people are just like not at a person,
then you're thinking about the person.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
I feel like that's the only time I stare.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
You've never been outside and just kind of been staring
into the abyss.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
No, I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
I mean, I'm sure I've stared like up at the sky,
like at the moon or something.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
But are you thinking about our celestial presence?
Speaker 1 (03:03):
No, I may be thinking. I may be thinking about
something like like something.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Important or completely unrelated to whatever situation you're in.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, well, I don't think I stare at them at
the moon and go like I want to be an astronaut. No,
but you may just be thinking about something in general.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
You've yelled at clouds before, you know that.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
So I don't. Am I not understanding what having a
blank mind is? Christ? Will you?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Will you see if somebody can explain to me what
a blank mind is. Maybe people do have it.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
I think it takes for a lot of people. It
takes practice.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
No, see, I think that's wrong.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I think that's wrong because I don't think it's being
done intentionally. They said, so they give examples of when
people have blank minds. Most most common they do say
for for like, I should have it. People with ADHD
(04:02):
reported experiencing mind blanks more frequently than neurotypical peers. Now
I keep saying blank mind mind Blank's the same thing. Yeah,
but to the point where they were able to test
people's brains, so it goes on for more than a second.
That's why I don't think a brain fart counts. And
(04:22):
I don't think forgetting what you were saying counts.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Been there?
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Oh yeah, totally. Everybody's done that. Hate that, everybody's done
that crap?
Speaker 1 (04:33):
What was I saying?
Speaker 2 (04:34):
But that's not I don't think that's having a blank
mind or a mind blank.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Now remember, I just think it's losing focus.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Yeah. We had a little lea coach that in the
stats for each player, they accounted for and kept track
of mental lapses.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
Oh yeah, that's a nice way of saying brain fart.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
No, no mental mistake, Like you know you shouldn't throw
the ball there, but you did, right, Guys, running from
first to second and you're at short, you throw it
to second.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Oh you didn't. Mental laps But that's different too, right.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
That's just you made an error. You're thinking I'm going
to throw the ball to first. You're not thinking what
you should do. You're just thinking what you're going to do.
But that's not mind blank.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
The worst out of all the examples. I cannot stand
when I lose my train of thought. I'd rather have
a quick brain lapse. I'd rather throw the ball to
first instead a second. It's embarrassing when you're telling a
story and there's maybe a slight distraction and then you
totally forget it. Makes your story seem so insignificant that
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even you, the person telling it, could not keep track
of where you were in it all.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
The time, all the time, and I'm like, there she goes,
mark it down. I'm like three weeks away from full
on all the time.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Does guy get mad at you?
Speaker 6 (06:04):
No?
Speaker 3 (06:05):
I feel I notice it more.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
I think I notice it more with me, like if
I'm on a phone call, because it always happens when
I'm always on the phone when I'm driving, right, so
I'm doing two things at once.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Which means you're not doing either one exactly.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
But and then I'll start talking about something and then
they'll there'll be a reply, and in my head I'm going, oh,
remember to mention this, and then I'm like, nap, totally
forgot it, Like, please jog my memory. That's why I
write everything down.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
You may have made writing things down such a crutch
that you forget to think. Maybe the data so they
all these researchers were trying to figure out what's really going.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
How does the brain become blank?
Speaker 2 (06:56):
They call it, Oh, hold on, it has some it
has some cool name local sleep, where it's essentially your
brain just goes to sleep, but you're awake.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
You're fully awake. They said.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
The data showed that there was a clear difference in
what people describe as their mind blanking versus their mind wandering.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
So that answers that it's completely different.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Well, what that's That's something we haven't even tackled yet.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
No, but that's a little bit of Diane where she's
having a conversation but then she starts thinking about something
else and then it's like, oh crap, what was I thinking.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
That's mind wandering, that's not mind blanking.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Mind blanking was most often reported after periods of sustained focus.
Maybe that's it. You are so focused, they say, like
taking an exam. You may finish taking an exam, and
it could not just in school, it could be anywhere,
but you were you were so focused on that that
afterwards your mind is just blank.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Diane has said that in school, she didn't commit much
of the test material to memory outside of the testa
day right, long term.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
Rh But don't you remember like coming off of tests
or exams and you just feel you felt like spent.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Is no, no, I was a good test taker.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Is there's another example in here?
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Oh no, no, no, never mind. Another example is they say.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Is what just happened there?
Speaker 1 (08:25):
No? No, is that you're sleep deprived.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Okay, that's the bulk of the population.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
But that's where your mind goes blank. But I don't
feel like my mind goes blank. What I was gonna say,
is you know that feeling of like I know, I'll
just use driving to work. I know I got here,
but I don't remember driving here at all.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
That happens all the time.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Is that mind blank or is that wandering?
Speaker 3 (08:52):
I think that's wandering.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
We've talked about that specific phenomena before phenomenon, and I
don't remember or how it got categorized.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
That's just routine. That's muscle memory.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yeah, that's what it has to be. But I don't
think that's mind blanking.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
It says, this is from the Journal of Consumer Psychology. Well,
when the brain isn't doing a lot of processing, say,
on your commute to work, the time it took to
do so doesn't feel that long.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
True.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
So the more attention we pay to an event, the
longer the interval of time feels.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
That's true. Like some when you have that feeling, you're like, wow,
I'm already here. I don't even remember being here.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Despite the fact that you may even be in congested
traffic and bored, it likely doesn't feel that long, just because,
like you said, it's routine.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Okay, so that's not mind blank. Now that's not mind blanking.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
How is it?
Speaker 2 (10:00):
We don't experience it? The average person twenty percent of
their day is mind blank.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Well, Cabo is wondering if this could be tied to
an inner voice. And we learned a year or so
ago that Kristen does not have one.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
True.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
So when she heard you talking about mind blanking and
the numbers associated with it, did chief seem to think
that that was not that bad? Does she get what
mind blanking is?
Speaker 5 (10:25):
Do you?
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Do you mind blank? Sometimes you think I'm gonna vote?
Speaker 7 (10:31):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Where was that going?
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Here?
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Mine? Too?
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Hi?
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Elliott the morning?
Speaker 5 (10:39):
Oh? Hi is this same? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Hi?
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Who's that?
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (10:42):
This is Lucas from Ashbourn.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Mind blanking. Are you hip to it?
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (10:48):
Yes, My girlfriend calls me out on it all the time.
Speaker 8 (10:52):
We'll be hanging out.
Speaker 6 (10:53):
We just got back from vacation, and on vacation, I'm
able to I'm very relaxed, so I can just kind
of step myself and just enjoy the moment and not
really think about absolutely anything and just be in the moment.
And it kind of bothers her sometimes because she's always
stressing about stuff and she's like, how do you do it?
And I was like, it just kind of happens, and
then you come back in the moment you're like, oh,
(11:15):
I was just completely blank, not thinking about anything for
five ten minutes.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
That's awesome. Good for you.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Literally, there's nothing going on there, like the what is that?
The lights are on, but no one's told exactly.
Speaker 6 (11:31):
Like I'll still react and respond if anything happens, but
it's almost it's like peace. It's like being happy but
you're still functioning, like everything's still working.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Is it like being asleep but you're awake.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
I wouldn't say it's like that because you don't realize
it's kind of going on, and then you come back
like somebody will say like, she'll say, so, she's like,
what are.
Speaker 7 (11:53):
You thinking about?
Speaker 6 (11:53):
And I was like, oh, nothing, I was just kind
of in a different you know, just enjoying everything. So
you almost make.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
You almost so, but you almost have to catch yourself
to come back.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
Yeah, like something will happen. You'll be like, oh, like
I didn't realize I wasn't, you know.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Paying any attention. It's not that you weren't paying attention.
You were just blank interesting all right.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
I like that. I like that you did a good
job with that. Thank you, sir, thank you. Yes.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
This researcher says the experience of a blank mind is
as intimate and direct as that of bearing thoughts.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
I don't even understand that bearing thoughts mean like confessing
things to someone or or having thoughts or it's just
it's very personal.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
A blank mind isn't like it is. And he said
it this inner piece maybe that had overcome him, that
it is a moment for some that it sounds like
is achieved.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Well, I mean think about it. This may this may
not be right.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
But like he was saying, his wife is always stressed
out right, so you're always thinking like I gotta do this,
I gotta get this done. I'm stressed about this. If that,
whatever it is, all of that's gone, so maybe it
does feel you for it.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
They notice changes in heart rate, pupil size, brain activity.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Brain activity has got to be zero, there is a decline.
Heart activity has got to be lower because you're calm.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
And they compare it to a sleeping brain.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
But you're awake. I want it.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
You never got to this with your time in the dojo.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
You know what, like we would, we would meditate and
you would you would I mean the answer is no,
like you would, you would totally unwind, you would totally
de stress, and you would totally But part of it
was is focusing for me, Like you got to remember
I was there.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
I didn't.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
I didn't get into martial arts because I wanted to
learn karate. I got into martial arts because I was
in a really really really angry, angry dark place. No, no,
And I told you this, I told you how I
ended up there and so courts no, no, no, no.
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It was it was Luke Robati who was going through
a horrible period with the Rangers, and so anyway I
was talking to him and I was like I was angry,
angry and he was like, go see this guy, and
so I just happened to learn how to do martial
arts as a byproduct of going to see this guy
to learn how to meditate. And so for me, it
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wasn't about just yes, it was about finding peace, but
it was really about just not being angry. So I
would have like very specific things that I would focus
on when when when I was meditating, and still do,
but it was all based on conversations that I had
had with Sense about what of what like. He didn't
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know what all my angry thoughts were, but he knew
how to describe visually what that could be like and
how to get yourself separated from that. So I wasn't
looking for euphoria. So I wasn't like, oh, imagine a
peaceful lake or whatever it was, imagine not being so angry.
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I was so dark, Like I get dark now, that's
nothing compared to how I used to be.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
Like yoga aplities, they always tell you like focus on
your breath and if you have to like visualize something
like some people visualize like their their stomach inflating and deflating,
or they'll do a balloon or something like that. But
then I often I'm like, I start thinking about that
real hard, and I'm like, I'm not calm, and then
it's like, oh, don't forget to go to the store,
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and then I'm starting to and then I start making
a friggin.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
List in my head.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Yeah. See, that's not you're you're you're not at peace
with yourself now.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
While when I need a sleep meditations, I don't think
I've ever heard the end of one, and they're like
five and ten minutes. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
And it's also like it keeps my streak alive if
I didn't work out. Hey, this is the same as
thirty minutes on the bike, right.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Just to be okay, easy for you to say, a
lot of people use.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Without a sleep meditation.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
I can, yes, yes, but I have two weeks streak.
I want people to high find me.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Where am I going? Line four? Hi Elliott the Morning?
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Who is that Elliott laughing at a cartoon?
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Oh? Patrick Starr, Hi Elliott the Morning?
Speaker 7 (16:53):
Hey this man? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Hi, who's this?
Speaker 7 (16:56):
It's uh Ryan and rest And I can speak to
literally Elliott and Tyler's point the anger and frustration I've
experienced in between financial detriment and family death in the
same week sitting there on the coups staring at a
blank TV. Nothing on my mind at all at all
from anger and frustration. It. Totally experienced the blank mind
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through that, and on the flip side to Tyler's point,
red meditation fixation meditation where you fixate on a certain
object that helps you get into a transitive state. For
my instance, it's the mouth out of my laptop, fixated
on that for forty five minutes. Experienced a completely blank
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mind through that as well.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
Wow, God, how bored is that?
Speaker 7 (17:46):
Yeah? I mean it's boring at first and then helpful
in the latter portion once you kind of master it.
But frustration side.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Of it, when you talked about like you were going
through like some that really bad financial and than family hardship.
They do say that a lot of times people will
hit blank mind over something traumatic. Now in some cases
they say like it could be like an injury or something,
but they did say that it could be something traumatic
where you would think like and again, I don't know
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what happened in your family, right and you don't have
to tell me, but it would be like instead where
somebody would look at you and go like, oh, he
must be he's just sitting there kind of I don't
want to say, like a zombie, but like kind of
deep in thought about he's sad, or he's thinking about
the person. But where they say the mind is just
so overwhelmed it literally just shuts off.
Speaker 7 (18:38):
Yeah, like I would agree like it was. I want
to say, it's close to that. Or I felt like
I was at a point where I was staring at
a blank television because I tried to think of every
point of resolve and came up with absolutely nothing. So
I continue to sit there and my mind just faded,
and I you know, that's that was my experience of
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a blank vine. Absolutely I had nothing on my mind.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
That's awesome. Good for you.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
I mean, I'm not glad about how you got there,
but at least you achieved it.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
All right, Very good, Thank you, sir, Thank you.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
Michael thinks this happens to you, Elliott. When you get
a new pair of headphones, you blame a lot of
stuff on them.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Okay, well, first of all, Michael, you don't deal with this.
How do you know that, Oh you think he's a
disc jockey? Could be Well, everybody in this room back
me up. The second you get a new pair of headphones.
The sound is completely different.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
Well, they're much tighter.
Speaker 9 (19:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Right. And when you do this, Michael like I do.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
What is he doing, Diane?
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Six seven hours a day, you're just referring to it.
I'm supposed to No, I'm supposed to get off at
ten o'clock. I'm an hour and fifteen minutes away. I
haven't gotten off at ten o'clock. In Forever. You're welcome,
no not. I wasn't saying you're welcome to the listeners.
I was saying, you're welcome to the person who just
walked by the window. So the the.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
So I hear myself talking what it was lost? I
lost my train of thought.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
They were distract.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
I was, but I was trying to think I was
going to address them again. But I was trying to
get back to my sentence.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
But when all you do is hear yourself the exact
same way, year after year after year, for seven, eight, nine,
ten hours a day, when it sounds different, it's noticeable
and it can throw you off. So similar to that,
a lot of people with military experience have said they
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know exactly what this is. It's called the thousand yards stare.
I've never heard that term before.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
The thousand yards stare?
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Does this have something to do with snipers?
Speaker 4 (20:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Well, no, not everybody in the military is a sniper.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
I don't know why my brain connected those two.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Is it is?
Speaker 1 (20:58):
It is the thousand yards stay.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Don't ask me, no, no, this.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Is I'm gonna guess. I'm gonna get.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Maybe Kristen knows because the mic.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
She's saying no, no, no, she said, Jelopao.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
My guess is and I could be wrong.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Christ Will you find me somebody in the military that
can explain the thousand yards stare?
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Is that you've seen some s okay, yeah, of course, And.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
It is what's the right word, like you've seen stuff rumatizing, Yeah,
great word, great word.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Where it's just.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
It's I don't want to say emotionless, because I'm sure
it's very taxing, but it's that thousand yard stare where
it's like I have just seen and experienced things I
have never I never thought I was going to see
her experience. And it is just staring off into the distance,
not because you did anything wrong or not because you're
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you're you're you're not emotionally ready to handle it, but
it's just that realization of oh my god, odd, I
have just seen some mess.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
So it's like they've been taught to disassociate.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Maybe I don't know you No, I'm assuming it's afterwards.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
I would have guessed this is a reflect Yes.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Yes, exactly, like I'm on my way back from where
Afghanistan and I'm just sitting on the plane like, yeah,
I could be completely wrong, but yes, reflective, not in
the moment, in the moment you're in the middle of
the middle of fighting for your life.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Line four. Hi Elliott the morning.
Speaker 9 (22:35):
Hi Diane, Hi, Yes, yeah, A thousand yards there. When
you're in boot camp, they make you basically just stare
straight out thousand yards. That way, you're not like looking
at any one thing in.
Speaker 10 (22:51):
Particular, and it just kind of helps with you keeping
your bearing, helps with you staying focused, all that.
Speaker 7 (22:59):
Kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
So it has nothing on you like looking around.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
It has nothing to do with what I said where
it's like a reflective moment of what you've just experienced.
Speaker 9 (23:09):
I will say there's times when I've been caught doing that,
reflecting on things in the past, and somebody will be like, oh,
you got that thousand yards stair going on or something
like that, because it's.
Speaker 10 (23:21):
You don't really you're not thinking, You're just you're caught
in the moment. You're you're kind of out of body,
if you will. You're just so deep in your mind
thinking about something that you forget about the rest of
your body and what you're doing. And somebody will be like, Oh,
you're just staring off in a space, aren't you.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Cause like the reflective the reflective version, if you will,
it seems like it's it's based on some kind of experience,
and probably not a pleasant one, where the bootcamp one
seems like it is, like you said, like you're being told, like,
you know, focus, stay straight, you know whatever, whatever it is,
you know what the movies makes it look like.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Almost sound like a strategy exactly.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
So if I just stared dead straight ahead, I'm not
going to get the why are you eyeballing me?
Speaker 1 (24:07):
What are you looking at? Or you know whatever?
Speaker 2 (24:10):
I mean again, that's all movie crap, But that one
sounds like a strategy with great word versus being reflective.
Speaker 10 (24:19):
I would agree, And I would say that maybe it's
something where maybe after you've been conditioned to do the
sousing yard stare that when you go into the deep
meditative states. It's just kind of a like a natural position.
I know for a fact that when I first got
out of the military, I would get caught standing at attention,
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sometimes without even noticing, just because it was comfortable. So
maybe it's just like you're so conditioned to do it
just naturally happens.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Nobody has ever walked by me, had said Eddie's Elliott.
All Right, dude, Hey, I appreciate it, Thank you, sir,
thank you.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Line eight. Hi Elliot in the morning. Hey, yeah, Hi,
who's this? Hey this Nick? Hey, what's going on?
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Nick?
Speaker 8 (25:11):
So I'm the guy who posted about a thousand yards
fair thing on x or Twitter or whatever. Oh so
basically like reach it in just a habit, just shutting
down your brain. I think it kind of comes from
us being like over exhausted, whether mentally or physically over time.
But you're not really focusing on anything. You're just looking
out forward, your eyes aren't focused on any object. You're
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just existing pretty much.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
That's gotta be it.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Yeah, I mean that's gotta be that's gotta be mind blank,
and you're not thinking there's nothing on your mind.
Speaker 8 (25:43):
I mean absolutely nothing, like blank, nothing I'm just breathing
and living, you know what, like there's you.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
You can hear that, A thank you, sir, thank you.
That sounds so awesome to make.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
And I don't know if somebody else hears it and
goes that sounds miserable. I hear that and go, oh,
I would I pray for that, just to be able
to sit and have it and have again it's five minutes,
nothing going on.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
That sounds awesome.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
I think of all that went on leading up to that.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
No, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
But that's what I'm saying. I don't want that part
of it. I don't want that part of my endorphins.
As John refers to it as without any of the war. Yes, yes,
you're exactly right. I just want to be able to
turn it off. But for people, people who have mind
blanks though, aren't just military.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
Guys, right. Aaron and Barlow says.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Oh, here we go, oh clear.
Speaker 11 (26:51):
And I said, my mind's gonna be blanking three two duh.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
I'm sure it would have come, but I just want
to make sure because everyone's laughing now. She she's not
like a veteran, right Aaron and Barlow, No, I don't know. No, listen.
I don't think they should serve either. But no, I'm serious.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
You're gonna take erin and put her in a war
zone and go hang you there. I don't think they'll
find us. Captain.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
Okay, okay, you gotta keep that.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Down, black Hawk, you can't.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
But where are you putting her? It's just she was
commenting during a discussion about the thousand yards Stare. Yeah,
so I thought it might be related to her own experiences.
I just wasn't familiar with zero. Okay, bowing friends felt
like a war. You're right.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Actually, she doesn't like to say anything. She's a general
two star
Agree or disagree with this statement. You're adding, the thing.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Is, on average, people's minds are blank.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Five to twenty percent of the time.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
I was, so, that's a big brain much a fine
blank blank.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Blank? Like I know what you're thinking.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
You are literally thinking about there's forgetting oh like clear? Yes,
Like I don't even want to say you're thinking about nothing,
because then you're still thinking you are not it's just blank.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Because I I can picture drawing a blank right, No,
completely different.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
You're saying that's what you're struggling to come up with
the answer, but you're thinking, okay, what is the answer?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
What is the answer? What is the answer? And I
don't mean a mind fart?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Right? Are you calling a brain fart? Are you saying,
like your meditative past?
Speaker 1 (00:57):
What is that? I don't know what that is.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
I'm sure you had extra sizes where you oh oh
oh oh, I thought you meant like, do people call
it their meditative No? No, for you? Are you saying
clear in that sense?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
No, we're literally there is nothing there.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
I would feel like it's you said twenty percent of
the time, it's a lot high.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Do you have it any percent of the time? No,
I don't feel like, I do.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Get plenty of brain farts and plenty of it.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
But I don't think a brain fart counts.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
You said, because you're like thinking, you're just drawing a blank.
But even like like during yoga classes and we were
telling you to like clear your mind of everything, you're
still thinking of something.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
What are you thinking of?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
I often will think of like a beach.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Really, yeah, Now when I do sleep meditations, what is that?
It's just like to go to exercided exercises that they
will tell you, like, now, exhale, does that count?
Speaker 4 (02:03):
I'm not thinking. I'm thinking about listening, but I'm not
thinking about honestly not thinking about anything else.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Maybe that counts. Maybe that counts, and listen. There's no
way none of us experience it.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
They said.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
The average persons are their minds are blank between five
and twenty percent of the time.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
We call those people starers. I call them lucky do you?
When I'm staring? Sometimes maybe I'm not thinking about anything,
But I also know it's rude to stare, so I
try not to.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I'm trying to think what are you staring?
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Like often people are just like not at a person,
then you're thinking about the person.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
I feel like that's the only time I stare.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
You've never been outside and just kind of been staring
into the abyss.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
No, I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
I mean, I'm sure I've stared like up at the sky,
like at the moon or something.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
But are you thinking about our celestial presence?
Speaker 1 (03:03):
No, I may be thinking. I may be thinking about
something like like something.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Important or completely unrelated to whatever situation you're in.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, well, I don't think I stare at them at
the moon and go like I want to be an astronaut. No,
but you may just be thinking about something in general.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
You've yelled at clouds before, you know that.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
So I don't. Am I not understanding what having a
blank mind is? Christ? Will you?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Will you see if somebody can explain to me what
a blank mind is. Maybe people do have it.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
I think it takes for a lot of people. It
takes practice.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
No, see, I think that's wrong.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I think that's wrong because I don't think it's being
done intentionally. They said, so they give examples of when
people have blank minds. Most most common they do say
for for like, I should have it. People with ADHD
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reported experiencing mind blanks more frequently than neurotypical peers. Now
I keep saying blank mind mind Blank's the same thing. Yeah,
but to the point where they were able to test
people's brains, so it goes on for more than a second.
That's why I don't think a brain fart counts. And
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I don't think forgetting what you were saying counts.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Been there?
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Oh yeah, totally. Everybody's done that. Hate that, everybody's done
that crap?
Speaker 1 (04:33):
What was I saying?
Speaker 2 (04:34):
But that's not I don't think that's having a blank
mind or a mind blank.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Now remember, I just think it's losing focus.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Yeah. We had a little lea coach that in the
stats for each player, they accounted for and kept track
of mental lapses.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
Oh yeah, that's a nice way of saying brain fart.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
No, no mental mistake, Like you know you shouldn't throw
the ball there, but you did, right, Guys, running from
first to second and you're at short, you throw it
to second.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Oh you didn't. Mental laps But that's different too, right.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
That's just you made an error. You're thinking I'm going
to throw the ball to first. You're not thinking what
you should do. You're just thinking what you're going to do.
But that's not mind blank.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
The worst out of all the examples. I cannot stand
when I lose my train of thought. I'd rather have
a quick brain lapse. I'd rather throw the ball to
first instead a second. It's embarrassing when you're telling a
story and there's maybe a slight distraction and then you
totally forget it. Makes your story seem so insignificant that
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even you, the person telling it, could not keep track
of where you were in it all.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
The time, all the time, and I'm like, there she goes,
mark it down. I'm like three weeks away from full
on all the time.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Does guy get mad at you?
Speaker 6 (06:04):
No?
Speaker 3 (06:05):
I feel I notice it more.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
I think I notice it more with me, like if
I'm on a phone call, because it always happens when
I'm always on the phone when I'm driving, right, so
I'm doing two things at once.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Which means you're not doing either one exactly.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
But and then I'll start talking about something and then
they'll there'll be a reply, and in my head I'm going, oh,
remember to mention this, and then I'm like, nap, totally
forgot it, Like, please jog my memory. That's why I
write everything down.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
You may have made writing things down such a crutch
that you forget to think. Maybe the data so they
all these researchers were trying to figure out what's really going.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
How does the brain become blank?
Speaker 2 (06:56):
They call it, Oh, hold on, it has some it
has some cool name local sleep, where it's essentially your
brain just goes to sleep, but you're awake.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
You're fully awake. They said.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
The data showed that there was a clear difference in
what people describe as their mind blanking versus their mind wandering.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
So that answers that it's completely different.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Well, what that's That's something we haven't even tackled yet.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
No, but that's a little bit of Diane where she's
having a conversation but then she starts thinking about something
else and then it's like, oh crap, what was I thinking.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
That's mind wandering, that's not mind blanking.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Mind blanking was most often reported after periods of sustained focus.
Maybe that's it. You are so focused, they say, like
taking an exam. You may finish taking an exam, and
it could not just in school, it could be anywhere,
but you were you were so focused on that that
afterwards your mind is just blank.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Diane has said that in school, she didn't commit much
of the test material to memory outside of the testa
day right, long term.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
Rh But don't you remember like coming off of tests
or exams and you just feel you felt like spent.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Is no, no, I was a good test taker.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Is there's another example in here?
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Oh no, no, no, never mind. Another example is they say.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Is what just happened there?
Speaker 1 (08:25):
No? No, is that you're sleep deprived.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Okay, that's the bulk of the population.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
But that's where your mind goes blank. But I don't
feel like my mind goes blank. What I was gonna say,
is you know that feeling of like I know, I'll
just use driving to work. I know I got here,
but I don't remember driving here at all.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
That happens all the time.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Is that mind blank or is that wandering?
Speaker 3 (08:52):
I think that's wandering.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
We've talked about that specific phenomena before phenomenon, and I
don't remember or how it got categorized.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
That's just routine. That's muscle memory.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yeah, that's what it has to be. But I don't
think that's mind blanking.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
It says, this is from the Journal of Consumer Psychology. Well,
when the brain isn't doing a lot of processing, say,
on your commute to work, the time it took to
do so doesn't feel that long.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
True.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
So the more attention we pay to an event, the
longer the interval of time feels.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
That's true. Like some when you have that feeling, you're like, wow,
I'm already here. I don't even remember being here.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Despite the fact that you may even be in congested
traffic and bored, it likely doesn't feel that long, just because,
like you said, it's routine.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Okay, so that's not mind blank. Now that's not mind blanking.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
How is it?
Speaker 2 (10:00):
We don't experience it? The average person twenty percent of
their day is mind blank.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Well, Cabo is wondering if this could be tied to
an inner voice. And we learned a year or so
ago that Kristen does not have one.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
True.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
So when she heard you talking about mind blanking and
the numbers associated with it, did chief seem to think
that that was not that bad? Does she get what
mind blanking is?
Speaker 5 (10:25):
Do you?
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Do you mind blank? Sometimes you think I'm gonna vote?
Speaker 7 (10:31):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Where was that going?
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Here?
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Mine? Too?
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Hi?
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Elliott the morning?
Speaker 5 (10:39):
Oh? Hi is this same? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Hi?
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Who's that?
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (10:42):
This is Lucas from Ashbourn.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Mind blanking. Are you hip to it?
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (10:48):
Yes, My girlfriend calls me out on it all the time.
Speaker 8 (10:52):
We'll be hanging out.
Speaker 6 (10:53):
We just got back from vacation, and on vacation, I'm
able to I'm very relaxed, so I can just kind
of step myself and just enjoy the moment and not
really think about absolutely anything and just be in the moment.
And it kind of bothers her sometimes because she's always
stressing about stuff and she's like, how do you do it?
And I was like, it just kind of happens, and
then you come back in the moment you're like, oh,
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I was just completely blank, not thinking about anything for
five ten minutes.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
That's awesome. Good for you.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Literally, there's nothing going on there, like the what is that?
The lights are on, but no one's told exactly.
Speaker 6 (11:31):
Like I'll still react and respond if anything happens, but
it's almost it's like peace. It's like being happy but
you're still functioning, like everything's still working.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Is it like being asleep but you're awake.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
I wouldn't say it's like that because you don't realize
it's kind of going on, and then you come back
like somebody will say like, she'll say, so, she's like,
what are.
Speaker 7 (11:53):
You thinking about?
Speaker 6 (11:53):
And I was like, oh, nothing, I was just kind
of in a different you know, just enjoying everything. So
you almost make.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
You almost so, but you almost have to catch yourself
to come back.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
Yeah, like something will happen. You'll be like, oh, like
I didn't realize I wasn't, you know.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Paying any attention. It's not that you weren't paying attention.
You were just blank interesting all right.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
I like that. I like that you did a good
job with that. Thank you, sir, thank you. Yes.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
This researcher says the experience of a blank mind is
as intimate and direct as that of bearing thoughts.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
I don't even understand that bearing thoughts mean like confessing
things to someone or or having thoughts or it's just
it's very personal.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
A blank mind isn't like it is. And he said
it this inner piece maybe that had overcome him, that
it is a moment for some that it sounds like
is achieved.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Well, I mean think about it. This may this may
not be right.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
But like he was saying, his wife is always stressed
out right, so you're always thinking like I gotta do this,
I gotta get this done. I'm stressed about this. If that,
whatever it is, all of that's gone, so maybe it
does feel you for it.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
They notice changes in heart rate, pupil size, brain activity.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Brain activity has got to be zero, there is a decline.
Heart activity has got to be lower because you're calm.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
And they compare it to a sleeping brain.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
But you're awake. I want it.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
You never got to this with your time in the dojo.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
You know what, like we would, we would meditate and
you would you would I mean the answer is no,
like you would, you would totally unwind, you would totally
de stress, and you would totally But part of it
was is focusing for me, Like you got to remember
I was there.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
I didn't.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
I didn't get into martial arts because I wanted to
learn karate. I got into martial arts because I was
in a really really really angry, angry dark place. No, no,
And I told you this, I told you how I
ended up there and so courts no, no, no, no.
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It was it was Luke Robati who was going through
a horrible period with the Rangers, and so anyway I
was talking to him and I was like I was angry,
angry and he was like, go see this guy, and
so I just happened to learn how to do martial
arts as a byproduct of going to see this guy
to learn how to meditate. And so for me, it
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wasn't about just yes, it was about finding peace, but
it was really about just not being angry. So I
would have like very specific things that I would focus
on when when when I was meditating, and still do,
but it was all based on conversations that I had
had with Sense about what of what like. He didn't
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know what all my angry thoughts were, but he knew
how to describe visually what that could be like and
how to get yourself separated from that. So I wasn't
looking for euphoria. So I wasn't like, oh, imagine a
peaceful lake or whatever it was, imagine not being so angry.
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I was so dark, Like I get dark now, that's
nothing compared to how I used to be.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
Like yoga aplities, they always tell you like focus on
your breath and if you have to like visualize something
like some people visualize like their their stomach inflating and deflating,
or they'll do a balloon or something like that. But
then I often I'm like, I start thinking about that
real hard, and I'm like, I'm not calm, and then
it's like, oh, don't forget to go to the store,
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and then I'm starting to and then I start making
a friggin.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
List in my head.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Yeah. See, that's not you're you're you're not at peace
with yourself now.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
While when I need a sleep meditations, I don't think
I've ever heard the end of one, and they're like
five and ten minutes. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
And it's also like it keeps my streak alive if
I didn't work out. Hey, this is the same as
thirty minutes on the bike, right.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Just to be okay, easy for you to say, a
lot of people use.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Without a sleep meditation.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
I can, yes, yes, but I have two weeks streak.
I want people to high find me.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Where am I going? Line four? Hi Elliott the Morning?
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Who is that Elliott laughing at a cartoon?
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Oh? Patrick Starr, Hi Elliott the Morning?
Speaker 7 (16:53):
Hey this man? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Hi, who's this?
Speaker 7 (16:56):
It's uh Ryan and rest And I can speak to
literally Elliott and Tyler's point the anger and frustration I've
experienced in between financial detriment and family death in the
same week sitting there on the coups staring at a
blank TV. Nothing on my mind at all at all
from anger and frustration. It. Totally experienced the blank mind
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through that, and on the flip side to Tyler's point,
red meditation fixation meditation where you fixate on a certain
object that helps you get into a transitive state. For
my instance, it's the mouth out of my laptop, fixated
on that for forty five minutes. Experienced a completely blank
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mind through that as well.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
Wow, God, how bored is that?
Speaker 7 (17:46):
Yeah? I mean it's boring at first and then helpful
in the latter portion once you kind of master it.
But frustration side.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Of it, when you talked about like you were going
through like some that really bad financial and than family hardship.
They do say that a lot of times people will
hit blank mind over something traumatic. Now in some cases
they say like it could be like an injury or something,
but they did say that it could be something traumatic
where you would think like and again, I don't know
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what happened in your family, right and you don't have
to tell me, but it would be like instead where
somebody would look at you and go like, oh, he
must be he's just sitting there kind of I don't
want to say, like a zombie, but like kind of
deep in thought about he's sad, or he's thinking about
the person. But where they say the mind is just
so overwhelmed it literally just shuts off.
Speaker 7 (18:38):
Yeah, like I would agree like it was. I want
to say, it's close to that. Or I felt like
I was at a point where I was staring at
a blank television because I tried to think of every
point of resolve and came up with absolutely nothing. So
I continue to sit there and my mind just faded,
and I you know, that's that was my experience of
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a blank vine. Absolutely I had nothing on my mind.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
That's awesome. Good for you.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
I mean, I'm not glad about how you got there,
but at least you achieved it.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
All right, Very good, Thank you, sir, Thank you.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
Michael thinks this happens to you, Elliott. When you get
a new pair of headphones, you blame a lot of
stuff on them.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Okay, well, first of all, Michael, you don't deal with this.
How do you know that, Oh you think he's a
disc jockey? Could be Well, everybody in this room back
me up. The second you get a new pair of headphones.
The sound is completely different.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
Well, they're much tighter.
Speaker 9 (19:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Right. And when you do this, Michael like I do.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
What is he doing, Diane?
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Six seven hours a day, you're just referring to it.
I'm supposed to No, I'm supposed to get off at
ten o'clock. I'm an hour and fifteen minutes away. I
haven't gotten off at ten o'clock. In Forever. You're welcome,
no not. I wasn't saying you're welcome to the listeners.
I was saying, you're welcome to the person who just
walked by the window. So the the.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
So I hear myself talking what it was lost? I
lost my train of thought.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
They were distract.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
I was, but I was trying to think I was
going to address them again. But I was trying to
get back to my sentence.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
But when all you do is hear yourself the exact
same way, year after year after year, for seven, eight, nine,
ten hours a day, when it sounds different, it's noticeable
and it can throw you off. So similar to that,
a lot of people with military experience have said they
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know exactly what this is. It's called the thousand yards stare.
I've never heard that term before.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
The thousand yards stare?
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Does this have something to do with snipers?
Speaker 4 (20:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Well, no, not everybody in the military is a sniper.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
I don't know why my brain connected those two.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Is it is?
Speaker 1 (20:58):
It is the thousand yards stay.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Don't ask me, no, no, this.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Is I'm gonna guess. I'm gonna get.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Maybe Kristen knows because the mic.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
She's saying no, no, no, she said, Jelopao.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
My guess is and I could be wrong.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Christ Will you find me somebody in the military that
can explain the thousand yards stare?
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Is that you've seen some s okay, yeah, of course, And.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
It is what's the right word, like you've seen stuff rumatizing, Yeah,
great word, great word.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Where it's just.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
It's I don't want to say emotionless, because I'm sure
it's very taxing, but it's that thousand yard stare where
it's like I have just seen and experienced things I
have never I never thought I was going to see
her experience. And it is just staring off into the distance,
not because you did anything wrong or not because you're
(21:54):
you're you're you're not emotionally ready to handle it, but
it's just that realization of oh my god, odd, I
have just seen some mess.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
So it's like they've been taught to disassociate.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Maybe I don't know you No, I'm assuming it's afterwards.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
I would have guessed this is a reflect Yes.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Yes, exactly, like I'm on my way back from where
Afghanistan and I'm just sitting on the plane like, yeah,
I could be completely wrong, but yes, reflective, not in
the moment, in the moment you're in the middle of
the middle of fighting for your life.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Line four. Hi Elliott the morning.
Speaker 9 (22:35):
Hi Diane, Hi, Yes, yeah, A thousand yards there. When
you're in boot camp, they make you basically just stare
straight out thousand yards. That way, you're not like looking
at any one thing in.
Speaker 10 (22:51):
Particular, and it just kind of helps with you keeping
your bearing, helps with you staying focused, all that.
Speaker 7 (22:59):
Kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
So it has nothing on you like looking around.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
It has nothing to do with what I said where
it's like a reflective moment of what you've just experienced.
Speaker 9 (23:09):
I will say there's times when I've been caught doing that,
reflecting on things in the past, and somebody will be like, oh,
you got that thousand yards stair going on or something
like that, because it's.
Speaker 10 (23:21):
You don't really you're not thinking, You're just you're caught
in the moment. You're you're kind of out of body,
if you will. You're just so deep in your mind
thinking about something that you forget about the rest of
your body and what you're doing. And somebody will be like, Oh,
you're just staring off in a space, aren't you.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Cause like the reflective the reflective version, if you will,
it seems like it's it's based on some kind of experience,
and probably not a pleasant one, where the bootcamp one
seems like it is, like you said, like you're being told, like,
you know, focus, stay straight, you know whatever, whatever it is,
you know what the movies makes it look like.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Almost sound like a strategy exactly.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
So if I just stared dead straight ahead, I'm not
going to get the why are you eyeballing me?
Speaker 1 (24:07):
What are you looking at? Or you know whatever?
Speaker 2 (24:10):
I mean again, that's all movie crap, But that one
sounds like a strategy with great word versus being reflective.
Speaker 10 (24:19):
I would agree, And I would say that maybe it's
something where maybe after you've been conditioned to do the
sousing yard stare that when you go into the deep
meditative states. It's just kind of a like a natural position.
I know for a fact that when I first got
out of the military, I would get caught standing at attention,
(24:40):
sometimes without even noticing, just because it was comfortable. So
maybe it's just like you're so conditioned to do it
just naturally happens.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Nobody has ever walked by me, had said Eddie's Elliott.
All Right, dude, Hey, I appreciate it, Thank you, sir,
thank you.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Line eight. Hi Elliot in the morning. Hey, yeah, Hi,
who's this? Hey this Nick? Hey, what's going on?
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Nick?
Speaker 8 (25:11):
So I'm the guy who posted about a thousand yards
fair thing on x or Twitter or whatever. Oh so
basically like reach it in just a habit, just shutting
down your brain. I think it kind of comes from
us being like over exhausted, whether mentally or physically over time.
But you're not really focusing on anything. You're just looking
out forward, your eyes aren't focused on any object. You're
(25:32):
just existing pretty much.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
That's gotta be it.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Yeah, I mean that's gotta be that's gotta be mind blank,
and you're not thinking there's nothing on your mind.
Speaker 8 (25:43):
I mean absolutely nothing, like blank, nothing I'm just breathing
and living, you know what, like there's you.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
You can hear that, A thank you, sir, thank you.
That sounds so awesome to make.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
And I don't know if somebody else hears it and
goes that sounds miserable. I hear that and go, oh,
I would I pray for that, just to be able
to sit and have it and have again it's five minutes,
nothing going on.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
That sounds awesome.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
I think of all that went on leading up to that.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
No, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
But that's what I'm saying. I don't want that part
of it. I don't want that part of my endorphins.
As John refers to it as without any of the war. Yes, yes,
you're exactly right. I just want to be able to
turn it off. But for people, people who have mind
blanks though, aren't just military.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
Guys, right. Aaron and Barlow says.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Oh, here we go, oh clear.
Speaker 11 (26:51):
And I said, my mind's gonna be blanking three two duh.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
I'm sure it would have come, but I just want
to make sure because everyone's laughing now. She she's not
like a veteran, right Aaron and Barlow, No, I don't know. No, listen.
I don't think they should serve either. But no, I'm serious.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
You're gonna take erin and put her in a war
zone and go hang you there. I don't think they'll
find us. Captain.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
Okay, okay, you gotta keep that.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Down, black Hawk, you can't.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
But where are you putting her? It's just she was
commenting during a discussion about the thousand yards Stare. Yeah,
so I thought it might be related to her own experiences.
I just wasn't familiar with zero. Okay, bowing friends felt
like a war. You're right.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Actually, she doesn't like to say anything. She's a general
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