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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I need somebody who's well versed or pretty well versed
in the tech world, maybe a little bit more than
maybe like say, I am you.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Know what, I'm intrigued by Cluly.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
And there's been a number of stories in the last
let's say two or three days that have come out
on Cluly. So cluly was started by two kids from
Columbia University and they developed here. The tagline for Cluly
is will help you cheat on everything? Okay, love it.
(00:34):
So it's also they started at at at Columbia, they
created like this AI technology to help them cheat to
get a job at Amazon, like not as a delivery driver,
but to interview for a job.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
At lambas Amazon Web Services exactly or whatever it was.
So how are they cheating at the interview?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
So here's what cluly does. So anyway, they end up
getting suspended for cheating.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Oh they cheated with testing at Columbia too.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Well they it was part of a class at Columbia,
and so what they what they created they used to cheat,
which I guess goes against some honor code or whatever.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
They ended up getting suspended, so they were like, well,
this thing is awesome. So then they end up getting
like five at raising like five and a half million
dollars in funding.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I don't understand completely how it.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Works because I watched the video on it, and again
I'm I'm good, I'm good with tech, but these people
are great, and they said they'll help you cheat on everything.
So when you are, So, let's say, what am I
doing where I need to cheat? I have to have
my computer out? What would I what would I be zooming?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Well, I don't know how you would cheat.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Well, I'm gonna tell you. Give me a scenario. Where
do the interview? Okay, so I'm on a job interview.
Who am I interviewing with?
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Are you still in radio? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
No, no, because radio people are dumb. Who is the who?
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Who?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Who?
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Deloitte?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
I'm interviewing you go to first?
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yeah, I don't know why it is. I don't know
why it is.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah, no, because I feel like they're a big fancy company.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
And you need to cheat.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Yeah, why not? So anyway, here's how it works. They're like,
mister Siegel, I'm like, call me Elliott. Okay, so we're
gonna have a Can I hit pause on myself for
one second.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
I'm not in the interview yet. I haven't entered the
zoom meeting.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Okay, Christian, will you see if you can find me
somebody who knows about Cluely please eight six six to
Elliott eight six six two three five five four six eight.
So anyway, I'm in there, but I launched Cleuly and
Cleuely is an is a screen that pops up on
my computer that they can't see but I can, and
(03:02):
in real time gives me answers and creative answers to
questions that they're being asked.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Okay, that's great if it is a remote interview.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
Yeah, what about it?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
If you're in person, you might I prompt my uh.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
I just I like to do all this online. Let
me probably I have my questions online. Okay, I'm guessing.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I don't know. I'm not one hundred percent sure.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Or is this an application that they say can be
built into eyeglasses.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
I'm sure it will be built into eyeglasses, which would
make sense because I also watched in the video a
guy's on a date with a chick.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
And guess makes them more interesting.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
No, so whenever she says something on the screen that's
like it must be through his glasses or whatever. He
sees all these different things to say. That's more enticing
than just going like.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
Yeah, that sounds exhausting.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
The No, Diane, it's awesome. You could cheat on anything.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
So it's not just providing information, it's generating what your
response should be.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yes, it's given you full conversations.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
It's real time yes.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Wow. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
So I'm sitting across from Diane and she says, oh,
I'm really interested in literature, right, I don't read, And
I'll say, oh, like, what's your favorite kind of literature?
Speaker 2 (04:24):
And if it said, like, let's say you said.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Romance, all of a sudden on the screen, stuff starts
popping up. I'm naming off my favorite uh, my favorite
romance authors. Oh I love And if you said, oh
I like that book Sally Come Lately, it fills in
and goes, oh, Sally Come Lately is one of my
favorite literature books.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Look, oh so it's in his glasses. It's in his glasses.
So he's out with that with that girl. She's very
attracted by the way looks No, she doesn't, No, she's
on a first date.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Well she also looks like twice.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Now, oh, well she does think that he looks young
because he did lie about his age. Look at everything
that's popping up just while they're talking.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Oh so he didn't remember what job he told her? Yes,
she he had, Yes, so it pulled up his dating profile.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yes, so it pulls up everything.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
It's listening to both of them.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Yes, but only he can see this.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Oh my goodness, this feels like now it looks like
there's a big screen between them.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
But that's just what his singing in his glasses.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Like black mirror.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
I didn't see that.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
The uh did your Google glass when you were wearing
wearing those pairs?
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Right? Were they awesome? Yes? Were they ahead of their time? Way?
Were they branded?
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Did they listen?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Say again no, I could listen. I could play music
through them.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
So there was a speaker, but it was there was
no microphone. Correct where all the red flags? That is,
he got caught. He got caught.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
He got caught critical error, critical error resolving information.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
But it brings everything up. It's genius.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Oh my gosh. So it's telling. The glasses are telling
clearly he lied about his age, yes to her, and
the glasses are saying, bring up her artwork, compliment her
like walking him through every step of this conversation. Now,
I understand how you could use it for an interview.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Yes, it's awesome.
Speaker 6 (06:24):
Isn't she going to be hugely disappointed when he's like
on date six, when he's not wearing his glasses and
he comes off as a real dummy.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
I have an idea. Why would I not wear my glasses?
My glasses is maybe he.
Speaker 6 (06:36):
Feels comfortable like, hey, I'm in now and I don't
need to wear these, and then he's going to be
like ugh when it comes to having a real conversation with.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Her, No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
So do you see what happened here? It looks like
she said, you know what, we can do a second date,
and then the glass is automatically pulled up his calendar
and reminded him he has an anime convention of course
for the date. Yeah, she suggested Diane.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
But wouldn't that be great to know instead of going
to let me check my calendar because that looks weird.
If she were like, hey, let's go out next weekend,
you go, no, you know what, I'm previously booked.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
I know I have something that weekend.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
I don't like this.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
Why it makes me uncomfortable? You're not being yourself. You're
like parroting what AI is telling you.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Yeah, but that's how everybody lives now.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
And could this be worked into just contact lenses you
don't need. I mean, now you're really you're really getting
yourself up there. Well, I'm just saying. Diane's like, well,
what if they don't have the glasses on?
Speaker 1 (07:35):
I feel like the glasses, dude, if I can have
if I can have some screens in my contacts, that
would be awesome.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Everybody uses AI.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Now, whether you know it or not. Yes, that is true.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Thank you. So why should this guy be at a disadvantage?
Speaker 1 (07:51):
He got a job at Amazon, he's getting he's getting
laid by this girl.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Are people turned off by the tagline chet on everything?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Yeah, there's people who are like, that's that's not it
sounds like Madison No, Diane, no, no, no, it isn't
like cheat on your spouse.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
Put yourself in the young woman's place. You'd be totally
okay with that.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
If he was, if he had somebody that was well,
not somebody he's just yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Why not?
Speaker 3 (08:21):
The developers say this is no different than a calculator
and spell check oh which originally.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
Spell check is checking you on your mistakes.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Yeah, well this is this is preventing me from making mistakes.
What if I said, oh, I could go.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
Out and again telling you what to say out?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
No, say again.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
This isn't like like correcting you on mistakes. This is giving.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
The calculator is telling me what to say.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
It's different to me six plus six h twelve.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Check my math?
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Hold on, where's the app?
Speaker 1 (08:55):
No?
Speaker 2 (08:55):
But you know what I mean. The calculator just told
me what to say. That's ai. This is except on
this I don't even have to type it in.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
It's like, oh, what's your favorite anything?
Speaker 6 (09:04):
And he's able to talk about like these books that
he has no idea about because the cluly is telling
him about it.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Yeah, in real time. He doesn't even have to look
it up later and go, hey, I looked up that book.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
So I'm reading through their manifesto here, which which mentions
the calculator spell jack. It also brings up Google, which
the world calls cheating.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yeah, but that's no different Wikipedia.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
But we built clearly so you never have to think
alone again. It sees your screen. Here's your audio, feeds
you answers in real time, while others guess you're already right,
they want you to bring it on sales calls.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Oh, that would be awesome.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Every time technology makes us smarter, the world panics, then
it adapts, then it forgets, and suddenly it's normal. But
this is different.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
It's just hey, without without technology, how would you have
gotten to work today?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
It isn't just another tool. It had to walk redefine
how our world works. Why memor facts, write code or
research anything when we can do it in seconds.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Well, somebody had to write the code for me. I
mean I can't write code, but I still use a computer.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Now, you did say while you're good at technology, these
guys are great. That is true, and we all rolled
our eyes at that statement.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
But yeah, no, I mean I'm with them on that.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
The future won't reward effort, it'll reward leverage. So start
cheating because when everyone does, no one is.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
That's a great line.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
That is a great pick up my mind and that
just exploded.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Wait, give it to me one more time. That's a
great line.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
My glasses blew off.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
What is it now? I start cheating when everyone does it,
nobody does it.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
I forget how to read. I don't think glasses on?
Speaker 2 (10:44):
What is what is the line? About cheating.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
When everybody does it, nobody does it, So start cheating
because when everyone does, no one is awesome.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
It's like eating.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
That's great, not your analogy.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
No, no, no, no, no, that's good.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
It goes against everything you teach your children, which is like,
don't just be a follower, don't do something just because
someone else is doing it.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Yeah, but they are.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Well, this certainly blows up my argument at the dinner
table last night. You know what, like the stop at
the park?
Speaker 2 (11:24):
What you had to vape just because everybody else.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Is No one is vaping in venting? Yes, no, it
had to do with I didn't like something Lindsay said,
so I jumped in, which was the start of the argument.
I bet clearly would have popped up. Why don't you
backtracks on that fight?
Speaker 5 (11:42):
You might want to shut your mouth.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
So then I told the kids to ignore what she
was saying because that wasn't the right lesson and it
wasn't even the point of her I didn't realize that
in telling us the story she had just misspoke, but
I jumped on it before she had a chance to
correct herself.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Yeah yeah, that's a problem. That's a problem.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Yeah yeah, So start cheating.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Yeah, because when everybody, when everyone does, nobody is.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
That's a great line.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
It's scary.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
I like that now, like because everybody at school can
use like like chromebooks. Well not everybody, but in a
lot of cases you get like chromebooks or mac books
and stuff. Open that crap right up. Man, Teacher, call
on you. You haven't read nothing. Teacher, call on you.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
I'm good.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Teacher, call on you.
Speaker 6 (12:38):
Yep, sorry, she gets already diminishing your U your grammar.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
That's that's how I talk.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Clearly, would have had me say, perfect the educator, call
on you, Yes, educator.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
It's really smart and everybody's using AI. Everybody is.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
I would bet we're at the point where fifty percent
of college essays more than that are AI written. Like
if I were a professor, like they run stuff through
like those algorithms and stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yeah, I wouldn't even care. Show me your ingenuity.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Oh so this is all very recent.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Oh it's this week.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
They launched this software in February, and the Columbia Spectator
wrote an article about them facing discipline and action. And
now I guess one of them's decided to drop out.
Some people say they were suspended there is.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
They just make dollars.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Yeah, but this, this all is within the last week
or so.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Oh, I thought they've been trying to develop this for
like years.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
No, no, no, no no. Like I said, these guys
are great at tech.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
So what are we looking at in terms of getting
a product to market? It could take some time, right,
I thought this was ready to go. Like, I don't
think ces next year.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
I don't think the glass are going to be ready
tomorrow now or affordable.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
But I like that.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
I just pull it up on my computer. Oh, I
always keep the spreadsheet open on my sales call. Hell,
do you realize what this thing? Even Caruso will close deals.
This is what Caruso needs. What he says with his
regular mouth gets him in trouble. This is a home run.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Can you imagine Aaron saying, now go get your glasses.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
By the way, if I were Aaron, if I were
a boss and had salespeople, I'd be like, I swear
to god, you show up on a call without Cleuly open,
I'll fire you. We are not authentic, you know why
because if everyone does, no one is get out there
and cheat.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
But think about it just as like a lie detector.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
How is it lying? How is using a calculator line?
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Oh no, no, the glasses if they're hearing everything that's
being said, the generative response is going to warn you
that the person you're can versing with is lying to you.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Oh how great to be able to call that out
if it's.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Something that the Internet can fact check immediately.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
So oh okay. So so let's say I'm having an
argument with somebody. Right, Let's say I'm having an argument. No, Diane,
because I don't know anything about that.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
But let's let's say I'm arguing. Let's say I'm arguing.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
With Dustin and he's like, I'm the boss. I get
all the flags that says you ain't s yeah, or
if he goes I brought Mumford and Sons to American radio.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
No you didn't know. You didn't. I'll call you right out.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
You've got potential exactly call all that out, so you
can even say it's a positive.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Christen, you probably noticed it too. But he as he
began speaking, you could tell his brain was working. He
was getting very giddy, and I didn't like, what was
it going to come out of his.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
So so think of it. This isn't cheating. This is
confirming I may think.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Six and five? Is that eleven?
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Let me confirm. That's like when I used to look
at Danny Chang's test.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
You were confirming.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
I was confirming your right. Well, it may not be wrong,
it may not be right. It's just I know it's
not what Danny has. I know Danny is a straight
a student. Hi, elliot in the morning.
Speaker 7 (16:31):
Hey it's Mark Claren from Long Island.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
How are you Mark? I'm doing great. What's going on, sir?
Speaker 4 (16:37):
So?
Speaker 7 (16:38):
I was listening to this podcast on another channel which.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
I won't name.
Speaker 7 (16:43):
However, this fella started it for job interviews, and he
actually got jobs at Meta, Amazon, Google, Correct, and I
think another tech company that he just did it to
blow off. So he's doing virtual interviews and it's not
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what the glasses, so that that's probably where the investment
has gone. But the screen that he's looking at apparently
will do an overlay that when the screen share happens
to the interviewer and the interviewee, the interviewer is unable
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to recognize the difference.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Yeah, does it see any kind of difference? Does it
see anything that changes? Here's what I don't get though.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
It was Allah.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
So it was all about coding, and.
Speaker 7 (17:40):
They asked the question and it's a voice recognition of
the question, and the overlay starts popping up code. So
I guess he's just moving his fingers like looking like
he's actually coding something.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
What is though, Let me ask you this, Let me
ask you this, like or do you live in the
tech world?
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Like are you? Are you pretty big into it?
Speaker 7 (18:03):
I've called in before. I'm a technical recruiter, Soka.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Sort of.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
This doesn't bother you, does it?
Speaker 7 (18:14):
You know. One of the things that he was one
of his points was nobody really codes anymore and the
excellent coders these days are actually the ones who are
able to manipulate AI the best, and so the coding
exercises that these companies are actually having people take aren't
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really relevant.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Anymore, exactly exactly.
Speaker 7 (18:44):
So that's that's his point.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
In the tech world.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Is it cheating the whole.
Speaker 7 (18:49):
Cheating on everything that sales thing? Is it cheating? Yeah,
to some extent, I wouldn't say it's cheating in school.
I think he got a bum wrap at Columbia for this.
But is it cheating? I guess it makes sense in
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a lot of angles. Of how the world is evolving.
I mean, my son's a junior in high school right now,
and his Chrome book he just actually found out that
his Chrome Book is now unlocked for chat GPT right on.
So somebody in administration has decided that it's okay, Hey,
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they need to Yeah, they need they need to figure
it out.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
Because let me.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Ask you that I believe it. Let me let me
ask you this.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
So you're your kid's a junior, So he's if he
hasn't started, he's he's already looking to figure out if
he's going to go to college. He may not be,
but if he's going to go to college, he's going
to have to write essays. Will you tell him no, no, no, no, no,
you write these on your own, or will you tell him, hey,
do whatever you got to do, knock it out.
Speaker 7 (20:00):
So he actually had a National History Day project that
I very much wanted.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Him to get an.
Speaker 7 (20:09):
Outline and then fill out the outline, right, so if
it could give him major points of the Civil Rights
Act and he could just say fill out from there,
that I wanted him to do because that would expedite
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the process.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Here you go, here, you go, very good, very good.
I appreciate. Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
So it looks like when it comes to the desktop application, Yes,
it is available now for Mac. There is a wait
list for Windows. Yes, and you can do the pro
plan which is twenty dollars a month, but it's free
if you just want to do the normal agent plans
and don't want unlimited usage.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
I feel like I need unlimited usage.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
And then there's Enterprise, which is them trying to sell
it commercially.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Hi, Bob Pittman calling.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Completely undetectable. Seize your screen. Here's your audio genius.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
God, I wish I were that smart.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Never lose a single deal again.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Wow, and that's smart. It can't do this job, but
still very smart.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Now that's local Bill. You've got our own problems.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Coming up later. More caps ticket ads Line three. Hi
Elliot in the morning, Elliot, Yes, hey, good morning.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Hey.
Speaker 7 (21:45):
So what happens that two people are on the same
interface at a date or something?
Speaker 2 (21:51):
That would be pretty interesting, but it keeps both parties honest.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Okay, Yeah, that actually is great because then again, what
does that teach you? So if it's two people and
they're both using it without the other one knowing everybody's cheating,
which means no one is close in this case, that works.
That's good. It would keep both parties honest. Diane can't lie,
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and then I can't lie back.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
I like it. No, I like Diane. It's coming, it's coming.
Get used to it.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
I hope I'm dead before this is the norm.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Well, it's already out and available. Lay down.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
I see the word depressing being thrown out by midday.
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Why is it depressing?
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Well, as Justin says, honestly, what's the fin point of
anything anymore? Okay, that's overstated, but he's not the only
one that used the D word.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Why why is it depressing?
Speaker 3 (22:54):
As Lava wrote, let me get.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
This unless unless this is gonna be another way to
eliminate jobs.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
You know I don't want to eliminate jobs.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Well, it's certainly it will be, Lava wrote, OMG, just
a data robot losers.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Yeah, okay, that's different. No, No, that's like.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
Trying to have a conversation with somebody, and it's it's
they're not putting out their own thoughts. It's they're they're
parenting what technology is telling them to say, you can't go.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
That's exactly what that that was?
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Okay, but if somebody said to you, Diane, tell me
about Radford, right, yeah, you may still get like a
little boose in there, but it's still your thought. It's
still like it's still you were there. This just helps you.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Well, there was an employee taken to hospital after a
nitric spill.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Okay, why why do we have to talk like.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
A local bill army ammunition plant? That's what would pop
up in her glass, right, But.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
She could say, but I also I also went to
that ring place.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Or on her screen.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Yeah, this isn't dating a robot. I don't I don't
want to plug a robot.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
No, it's a real person without their own thoughts. That
sounds fun.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Maybe it makes them smarter because now I'm saying all
these things I remember now now I'm.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
Actually ta glasses and talk the I'm not wearing glasses.
Speaker 6 (24:12):
I always keep a laptop or contacts, or you're I
love to date a guy with the laptop open at
the dinner table.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
I'm trying to see if my parlay hit.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
But it is interesting to see that this is I
asked you what it would take to get this product
and market this is available right now? When it comes
to the desktop assistant. Yeah, the glasses. Caruso already spent
the twenty dollars for the video. That and the guy
with the one, guy Roy who I don't know if
he's the lead developer. Is that true line seven but
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he says it's got in two days. The video with
the glasses has over ten million views. He's pretty cocky.
But don't worry about the glasses. This, like we said,
it's only for Mac right now, but it's coming for
Windows waiting list. This you can download right now today.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Right now, you can take it on your sales call today.
Hi Elliet the.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Morning, Hey Ellie, how are you doing? Man?
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Good?
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Good? Hey. So, we were interviewing a guy about a
month or two ago and he must not have had
a good connection because we thought he had a learning
disability and he was pausing so much in between questions
and then you could see his eyes tracking and he
was clearly reading as as we were trying to get
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him to answer questions.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
So do you think he was using something similar to this?
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Yeah, definitely they've been There have been other ones or
just people using Chad GPT to do it, and so yeah,
it was clear he was we thought he had a
learning disability. Man, you know, we didn't know what was
going on in the whole panel. And then some of
his answers to our questions that it was a business
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analyst position, and some of the answers were just it
just unnatural and sort of off the wall and not
pertinent in some cases, so weird.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
That's why I used, clearly, it's better the eye thing.
I just I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I have a birth
defect anyway, I'm.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
Just I'm naturally shifty eye.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
It's still awkward.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Oh no, I bet it was. But that's where maybe
this one is better. Maybe they have fixed that bug.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
I certainly make it look like in their marketing materials.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Cheat on everything.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Give us the uh closing statement, the closing argument again.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
If everyone does, nobody is what whatever, Kristen, it works,
It's put on a shirt.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
What do I care? I just got a marketing job.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Do you not hear it again?
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Go ahead, So start shooting, because when everyone does, no
one is
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Nobody is, no one is, no one is Sorry, my
eyes are darting
I need somebody who's well versed or pretty well versed
in the tech world, maybe a little bit more than
maybe like say, I am you.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Know what, I'm intrigued by Cluly.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
And there's been a number of stories in the last
let's say two or three days that have come out
on Cluly. So cluly was started by two kids from
Columbia University and they developed here. The tagline for Cluly
is will help you cheat on everything? Okay, love it.
(00:34):
So it's also they started at at at Columbia, they
created like this AI technology to help them cheat to
get a job at Amazon, like not as a delivery driver,
but to interview for a job.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
At lambas Amazon Web Services exactly or whatever it was.
So how are they cheating at the interview?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
So here's what cluly does. So anyway, they end up
getting suspended for cheating.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Oh they cheated with testing at Columbia too.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Well they it was part of a class at Columbia,
and so what they what they created they used to cheat,
which I guess goes against some honor code or whatever.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
They ended up getting suspended, so they were like, well,
this thing is awesome. So then they end up getting
like five at raising like five and a half million
dollars in funding.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I don't understand completely how it.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Works because I watched the video on it, and again
I'm I'm good, I'm good with tech, but these people
are great, and they said they'll help you cheat on everything.
So when you are, So, let's say, what am I
doing where I need to cheat? I have to have
my computer out? What would I what would I be zooming?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Well, I don't know how you would cheat.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Well, I'm gonna tell you. Give me a scenario. Where
do the interview? Okay, so I'm on a job interview.
Who am I interviewing with?
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Are you still in radio? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
No, no, because radio people are dumb. Who is the who?
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Who?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Who?
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Deloitte?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
I'm interviewing you go to first?
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yeah, I don't know why it is. I don't know
why it is.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah, no, because I feel like they're a big fancy company.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
And you need to cheat.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Yeah, why not? So anyway, here's how it works. They're like,
mister Siegel, I'm like, call me Elliott. Okay, so we're
gonna have a Can I hit pause on myself for
one second.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
I'm not in the interview yet. I haven't entered the
zoom meeting.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Okay, Christian, will you see if you can find me
somebody who knows about Cluely please eight six six to
Elliott eight six six two three five five four six eight.
So anyway, I'm in there, but I launched Cleuly and
Cleuely is an is a screen that pops up on
my computer that they can't see but I can, and
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in real time gives me answers and creative answers to
questions that they're being asked.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Okay, that's great if it is a remote interview.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
Yeah, what about it?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
If you're in person, you might I prompt my uh.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
I just I like to do all this online. Let
me probably I have my questions online. Okay, I'm guessing.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
I don't know. I'm not one hundred percent sure.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Or is this an application that they say can be
built into eyeglasses.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
I'm sure it will be built into eyeglasses, which would
make sense because I also watched in the video a
guy's on a date with a chick.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
And guess makes them more interesting.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
No, so whenever she says something on the screen that's
like it must be through his glasses or whatever. He
sees all these different things to say. That's more enticing
than just going like.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
Yeah, that sounds exhausting.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
The No, Diane, it's awesome. You could cheat on anything.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
So it's not just providing information, it's generating what your
response should be.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yes, it's given you full conversations.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
It's real time yes.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Wow. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
So I'm sitting across from Diane and she says, oh,
I'm really interested in literature, right, I don't read, And
I'll say, oh, like, what's your favorite kind of literature?
Speaker 2 (04:24):
And if it said, like, let's say you said.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Romance, all of a sudden on the screen, stuff starts
popping up. I'm naming off my favorite uh, my favorite
romance authors. Oh I love And if you said, oh
I like that book Sally Come Lately, it fills in
and goes, oh, Sally Come Lately is one of my
favorite literature books.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Look, oh so it's in his glasses. It's in his glasses.
So he's out with that with that girl. She's very
attracted by the way looks No, she doesn't, No, she's
on a first date.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Well she also looks like twice.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Now, oh, well she does think that he looks young
because he did lie about his age. Look at everything
that's popping up just while they're talking.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Oh so he didn't remember what job he told her? Yes,
she he had, Yes, so it pulled up his dating profile.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yes, so it pulls up everything.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
It's listening to both of them.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Yes, but only he can see this.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Oh my goodness, this feels like now it looks like
there's a big screen between them.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
But that's just what his singing in his glasses.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Like black mirror.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
I didn't see that.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
The uh did your Google glass when you were wearing
wearing those pairs?
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Right? Were they awesome? Yes? Were they ahead of their time? Way?
Were they branded?
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Did they listen?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Say again no, I could listen. I could play music
through them.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
So there was a speaker, but it was there was
no microphone. Correct where all the red flags? That is,
he got caught. He got caught.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
He got caught critical error, critical error resolving information.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
But it brings everything up. It's genius.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Oh my gosh. So it's telling. The glasses are telling
clearly he lied about his age, yes to her, and
the glasses are saying, bring up her artwork, compliment her
like walking him through every step of this conversation. Now,
I understand how you could use it for an interview.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Yes, it's awesome.
Speaker 6 (06:24):
Isn't she going to be hugely disappointed when he's like
on date six, when he's not wearing his glasses and
he comes off as a real dummy.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
I have an idea. Why would I not wear my glasses?
My glasses is maybe he.
Speaker 6 (06:36):
Feels comfortable like, hey, I'm in now and I don't
need to wear these, and then he's going to be
like ugh when it comes to having a real conversation with.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Her, No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
So do you see what happened here? It looks like
she said, you know what, we can do a second date,
and then the glass is automatically pulled up his calendar
and reminded him he has an anime convention of course
for the date. Yeah, she suggested Diane.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
But wouldn't that be great to know instead of going
to let me check my calendar because that looks weird.
If she were like, hey, let's go out next weekend,
you go, no, you know what, I'm previously booked.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
I know I have something that weekend.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
I don't like this.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
Why it makes me uncomfortable? You're not being yourself. You're
like parroting what AI is telling you.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Yeah, but that's how everybody lives now.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
And could this be worked into just contact lenses you
don't need. I mean, now you're really you're really getting
yourself up there. Well, I'm just saying. Diane's like, well,
what if they don't have the glasses on?
Speaker 1 (07:35):
I feel like the glasses, dude, if I can have
if I can have some screens in my contacts, that
would be awesome.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Everybody uses AI.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Now, whether you know it or not. Yes, that is true.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Thank you. So why should this guy be at a disadvantage?
Speaker 1 (07:51):
He got a job at Amazon, he's getting he's getting
laid by this girl.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Are people turned off by the tagline chet on everything?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Yeah, there's people who are like, that's that's not it
sounds like Madison No, Diane, no, no, no, it isn't
like cheat on your spouse.
Speaker 6 (08:08):
Put yourself in the young woman's place. You'd be totally
okay with that.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
If he was, if he had somebody that was well,
not somebody he's just yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Why not?
Speaker 3 (08:21):
The developers say this is no different than a calculator
and spell check oh which originally.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
Spell check is checking you on your mistakes.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Yeah, well this is this is preventing me from making mistakes.
What if I said, oh, I could go.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
Out and again telling you what to say out?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
No, say again.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
This isn't like like correcting you on mistakes. This is giving.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
The calculator is telling me what to say.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
It's different to me six plus six h twelve.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Check my math?
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Hold on, where's the app?
Speaker 1 (08:55):
No?
Speaker 2 (08:55):
But you know what I mean. The calculator just told
me what to say. That's ai. This is except on
this I don't even have to type it in.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
It's like, oh, what's your favorite anything?
Speaker 6 (09:04):
And he's able to talk about like these books that
he has no idea about because the cluly is telling
him about it.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Yeah, in real time. He doesn't even have to look
it up later and go, hey, I looked up that book.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
So I'm reading through their manifesto here, which which mentions
the calculator spell jack. It also brings up Google, which
the world calls cheating.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yeah, but that's no different Wikipedia.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
But we built clearly so you never have to think
alone again. It sees your screen. Here's your audio, feeds
you answers in real time, while others guess you're already right,
they want you to bring it on sales calls.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Oh, that would be awesome.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Every time technology makes us smarter, the world panics, then
it adapts, then it forgets, and suddenly it's normal. But
this is different.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
It's just hey, without without technology, how would you have
gotten to work today?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
It isn't just another tool. It had to walk redefine
how our world works. Why memor facts, write code or
research anything when we can do it in seconds.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Well, somebody had to write the code for me. I
mean I can't write code, but I still use a computer.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Now, you did say while you're good at technology, these
guys are great. That is true, and we all rolled
our eyes at that statement.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
But yeah, no, I mean I'm with them on that.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
The future won't reward effort, it'll reward leverage. So start
cheating because when everyone does, no one is.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
That's a great line.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
That is a great pick up my mind and that
just exploded.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Wait, give it to me one more time. That's a
great line.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
My glasses blew off.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
What is it now? I start cheating when everyone does it,
nobody does it.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
I forget how to read. I don't think glasses on?
Speaker 2 (10:44):
What is what is the line? About cheating.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
When everybody does it, nobody does it, So start cheating
because when everyone does, no one is awesome.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
It's like eating.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
That's great, not your analogy.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
No, no, no, no, no, that's good.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
It goes against everything you teach your children, which is like,
don't just be a follower, don't do something just because
someone else is doing it.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Yeah, but they are.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Well, this certainly blows up my argument at the dinner
table last night. You know what, like the stop at
the park?
Speaker 2 (11:24):
What you had to vape just because everybody else.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Is No one is vaping in venting? Yes, no, it
had to do with I didn't like something Lindsay said,
so I jumped in, which was the start of the argument.
I bet clearly would have popped up. Why don't you
backtracks on that fight?
Speaker 5 (11:42):
You might want to shut your mouth.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
So then I told the kids to ignore what she
was saying because that wasn't the right lesson and it
wasn't even the point of her I didn't realize that
in telling us the story she had just misspoke, but
I jumped on it before she had a chance to
correct herself.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Yeah yeah, that's a problem. That's a problem.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Yeah yeah, So start cheating.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Yeah, because when everybody, when everyone does, nobody is.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
That's a great line.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
It's scary.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
I like that now, like because everybody at school can
use like like chromebooks. Well not everybody, but in a
lot of cases you get like chromebooks or mac books
and stuff. Open that crap right up. Man, Teacher, call
on you. You haven't read nothing. Teacher, call on you.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
I'm good.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Teacher, call on you.
Speaker 6 (12:38):
Yep, sorry, she gets already diminishing your U your grammar.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
That's that's how I talk.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Clearly, would have had me say, perfect the educator, call
on you, Yes, educator.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
It's really smart and everybody's using AI. Everybody is.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
I would bet we're at the point where fifty percent
of college essays more than that are AI written. Like
if I were a professor, like they run stuff through
like those algorithms and stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yeah, I wouldn't even care. Show me your ingenuity.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Oh so this is all very recent.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Oh it's this week.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
They launched this software in February, and the Columbia Spectator
wrote an article about them facing discipline and action. And
now I guess one of them's decided to drop out.
Some people say they were suspended there is.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
They just make dollars.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Yeah, but this, this all is within the last week
or so.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Oh, I thought they've been trying to develop this for
like years.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
No, no, no, no no. Like I said, these guys
are great at tech.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
So what are we looking at in terms of getting
a product to market? It could take some time, right,
I thought this was ready to go. Like, I don't
think ces next year.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
I don't think the glass are going to be ready
tomorrow now or affordable.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
But I like that.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
I just pull it up on my computer. Oh, I
always keep the spreadsheet open on my sales call. Hell,
do you realize what this thing? Even Caruso will close deals.
This is what Caruso needs. What he says with his
regular mouth gets him in trouble. This is a home run.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Can you imagine Aaron saying, now go get your glasses.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
By the way, if I were Aaron, if I were
a boss and had salespeople, I'd be like, I swear
to god, you show up on a call without Cleuly open,
I'll fire you. We are not authentic, you know why
because if everyone does, no one is get out there
and cheat.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
But think about it just as like a lie detector.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
How is it lying? How is using a calculator line?
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Oh no, no, the glasses if they're hearing everything that's
being said, the generative response is going to warn you
that the person you're can versing with is lying to you.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Oh how great to be able to call that out
if it's.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Something that the Internet can fact check immediately.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
So oh okay. So so let's say I'm having an
argument with somebody. Right, Let's say I'm having an argument. No, Diane,
because I don't know anything about that.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
But let's let's say I'm arguing. Let's say I'm arguing.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
With Dustin and he's like, I'm the boss. I get
all the flags that says you ain't s yeah, or
if he goes I brought Mumford and Sons to American radio.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
No you didn't know. You didn't. I'll call you right out.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
You've got potential exactly call all that out, so you
can even say it's a positive.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
Christen, you probably noticed it too. But he as he
began speaking, you could tell his brain was working. He
was getting very giddy, and I didn't like, what was
it going to come out of his.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
So so think of it. This isn't cheating. This is
confirming I may think.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Six and five? Is that eleven?
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Let me confirm. That's like when I used to look
at Danny Chang's test.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
You were confirming.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
I was confirming your right. Well, it may not be wrong,
it may not be right. It's just I know it's
not what Danny has. I know Danny is a straight
a student. Hi, elliot in the morning.
Speaker 7 (16:31):
Hey it's Mark Claren from Long Island.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
How are you Mark? I'm doing great. What's going on, sir?
Speaker 4 (16:37):
So?
Speaker 7 (16:38):
I was listening to this podcast on another channel which.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
I won't name.
Speaker 7 (16:43):
However, this fella started it for job interviews, and he
actually got jobs at Meta, Amazon, Google, Correct, and I
think another tech company that he just did it to
blow off. So he's doing virtual interviews and it's not
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what the glasses, so that that's probably where the investment
has gone. But the screen that he's looking at apparently
will do an overlay that when the screen share happens
to the interviewer and the interviewee, the interviewer is unable
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to recognize the difference.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Yeah, does it see any kind of difference? Does it
see anything that changes? Here's what I don't get though.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
It was Allah.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
So it was all about coding, and.
Speaker 7 (17:40):
They asked the question and it's a voice recognition of
the question, and the overlay starts popping up code. So
I guess he's just moving his fingers like looking like
he's actually coding something.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
What is though, Let me ask you this, Let me
ask you this, like or do you live in the
tech world?
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Like are you? Are you pretty big into it?
Speaker 7 (18:03):
I've called in before. I'm a technical recruiter, Soka.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Sort of.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
This doesn't bother you, does it?
Speaker 7 (18:14):
You know. One of the things that he was one
of his points was nobody really codes anymore and the
excellent coders these days are actually the ones who are
able to manipulate AI the best, and so the coding
exercises that these companies are actually having people take aren't
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really relevant.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Anymore, exactly exactly.
Speaker 7 (18:44):
So that's that's his point.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
In the tech world.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Is it cheating the whole.
Speaker 7 (18:49):
Cheating on everything that sales thing? Is it cheating? Yeah,
to some extent, I wouldn't say it's cheating in school.
I think he got a bum wrap at Columbia for this.
But is it cheating? I guess it makes sense in
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a lot of angles. Of how the world is evolving.
I mean, my son's a junior in high school right now,
and his Chrome book he just actually found out that
his Chrome Book is now unlocked for chat GPT right on.
So somebody in administration has decided that it's okay, Hey,
(19:35):
they need to Yeah, they need they need to figure
it out.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
Because let me.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Ask you that I believe it. Let me let me
ask you this.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
So you're your kid's a junior, So he's if he
hasn't started, he's he's already looking to figure out if
he's going to go to college. He may not be,
but if he's going to go to college, he's going
to have to write essays. Will you tell him no, no, no, no, no,
you write these on your own, or will you tell him, hey,
do whatever you got to do, knock it out.
Speaker 7 (20:00):
So he actually had a National History Day project that
I very much wanted.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Him to get an.
Speaker 7 (20:09):
Outline and then fill out the outline, right, so if
it could give him major points of the Civil Rights
Act and he could just say fill out from there,
that I wanted him to do because that would expedite
(20:30):
the process.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Here you go, here, you go, very good, very good.
I appreciate. Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
So it looks like when it comes to the desktop application, Yes,
it is available now for Mac. There is a wait
list for Windows. Yes, and you can do the pro
plan which is twenty dollars a month, but it's free
if you just want to do the normal agent plans
and don't want unlimited usage.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
I feel like I need unlimited usage.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
And then there's Enterprise, which is them trying to sell
it commercially.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Hi, Bob Pittman calling.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Completely undetectable. Seize your screen. Here's your audio genius.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
God, I wish I were that smart.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Never lose a single deal again.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Wow, and that's smart. It can't do this job, but
still very smart.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Now that's local Bill. You've got our own problems.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Coming up later. More caps ticket ads Line three. Hi
Elliot in the morning, Elliot, Yes, hey, good morning.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Hey.
Speaker 7 (21:45):
So what happens that two people are on the same
interface at a date or something?
Speaker 2 (21:51):
That would be pretty interesting, but it keeps both parties honest.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Okay, Yeah, that actually is great because then again, what
does that teach you? So if it's two people and
they're both using it without the other one knowing everybody's cheating,
which means no one is close in this case, that works.
That's good. It would keep both parties honest. Diane can't lie,
(22:21):
and then I can't lie back.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
I like it. No, I like Diane. It's coming, it's coming.
Get used to it.
Speaker 5 (22:30):
I hope I'm dead before this is the norm.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Well, it's already out and available. Lay down.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
I see the word depressing being thrown out by midday.
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Why is it depressing?
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Well, as Justin says, honestly, what's the fin point of
anything anymore? Okay, that's overstated, but he's not the only
one that used the D word.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Why why is it depressing?
Speaker 3 (22:54):
As Lava wrote, let me get.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
This unless unless this is gonna be another way to
eliminate jobs.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
You know I don't want to eliminate jobs.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Well, it's certainly it will be, Lava wrote, OMG, just
a data robot losers.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Yeah, okay, that's different. No, No, that's like.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
Trying to have a conversation with somebody, and it's it's
they're not putting out their own thoughts. It's they're they're
parenting what technology is telling them to say, you can't go.
Speaker 5 (23:21):
That's exactly what that that was?
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Okay, but if somebody said to you, Diane, tell me
about Radford, right, yeah, you may still get like a
little boose in there, but it's still your thought. It's
still like it's still you were there. This just helps you.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Well, there was an employee taken to hospital after a
nitric spill.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Okay, why why do we have to talk like.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
A local bill army ammunition plant? That's what would pop
up in her glass, right, But.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
She could say, but I also I also went to
that ring place.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Or on her screen.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Yeah, this isn't dating a robot. I don't I don't
want to plug a robot.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
No, it's a real person without their own thoughts. That
sounds fun.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Maybe it makes them smarter because now I'm saying all
these things I remember now now I'm.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
Actually ta glasses and talk the I'm not wearing glasses.
Speaker 6 (24:12):
I always keep a laptop or contacts, or you're I
love to date a guy with the laptop open at
the dinner table.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
I'm trying to see if my parlay hit.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
But it is interesting to see that this is I
asked you what it would take to get this product
and market this is available right now? When it comes
to the desktop assistant. Yeah, the glasses. Caruso already spent
the twenty dollars for the video. That and the guy
with the one, guy Roy who I don't know if
he's the lead developer. Is that true line seven but
(24:45):
he says it's got in two days. The video with
the glasses has over ten million views. He's pretty cocky.
But don't worry about the glasses. This, like we said,
it's only for Mac right now, but it's coming for
Windows waiting list. This you can download right now today.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Right now, you can take it on your sales call today.
Hi Elliet the.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Morning, Hey Ellie, how are you doing? Man?
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Good?
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Good? Hey. So, we were interviewing a guy about a
month or two ago and he must not have had
a good connection because we thought he had a learning
disability and he was pausing so much in between questions
and then you could see his eyes tracking and he
was clearly reading as as we were trying to get
(25:34):
him to answer questions.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
So do you think he was using something similar to this?
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Yeah, definitely they've been There have been other ones or
just people using Chad GPT to do it, and so yeah,
it was clear he was we thought he had a
learning disability. Man, you know, we didn't know what was
going on in the whole panel. And then some of
his answers to our questions that it was a business
(26:02):
analyst position, and some of the answers were just it
just unnatural and sort of off the wall and not
pertinent in some cases, so weird.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
That's why I used, clearly, it's better the eye thing.
I just I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I have a birth
defect anyway, I'm.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
Just I'm naturally shifty eye.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
It's still awkward.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Oh no, I bet it was. But that's where maybe
this one is better. Maybe they have fixed that bug.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
I certainly make it look like in their marketing materials.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Cheat on everything.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Give us the uh closing statement, the closing argument again.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
If everyone does, nobody is what whatever, Kristen, it works,
It's put on a shirt.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
What do I care? I just got a marketing job.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Do you not hear it again?
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Go ahead, So start shooting, because when everyone does, no
one is
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Nobody is, no one is, no one is Sorry, my
eyes are darting
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