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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah, we're we're anomalies.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Yeah, we My last job changed was almost twenty six
years ago.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
So yeah, no, it was too mine too to come here.
You know what the average is? I do not. I
was shocked. What do you think the averages that somebody
switches jobs?
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Isn't it like window gotten smaller? And yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Is it something like three or four?
Speaker 4 (00:24):
Now?
Speaker 1 (00:25):
They said people people are changing jobs now more than
ever before, and the window of time that they're staying
at a job is shrinking. So people are moving job
to job faster and faster. Now, remember it's not going
to be every six months. The guy we just talked to,
(00:45):
he's ten years. We're more than that, but we're unicorns.
What is that number?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I'll say three or four, I'll say five.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Three point nine?
Speaker 4 (00:57):
No, three point nine years is the average for somebody
to switch jobs.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Less than high school?
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Now, you know what, that's a great way to look
at it. No, that really is well, that's a great
way to.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Look at do Seinfeld episode.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
No, that's true, and I didn't have I didn't have
that in but yeah, you wouldn't make it all the
way through high school without switching jobs. That's like, you
know what that is that's switching high schools at the
at Christmas break of your senior year.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
You know what. This is off topic, but related to
high schools and the eighth grade graduation yesterday. The school
that my son goes to and my daughter will next year,
likes to tout itself as the only true feeder school
of the high school because they don't split up their.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Body.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Every single person goes to the same high school. And
that's not true for yeah, a lot of times they
split middle schools, all middle schools. So to me, yeah,
maybe you're going away for the summer or you go
to camp or whatever may be, and you're gonna miss
your friends. But because you're all going to be there
next year, I didn't think it would be as emotional.
(02:05):
I forgot about all the kids that were going to
private high school. Oh yeah, oh yeah, man, there were
some tears after it ended.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Yeah, but you know what, I didn't even think of that,
like because like where my kid went to middle school,
Like they got split between WL and Yorktown, or you know,
some went to Arlington Tech and stuff. But everybody goes
unless like you said, they give you a private school. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Yeah, So we walked out and I was like, why
are why are there something people crying? You'll see him
in the fall. No, no, no, you won't.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Okay, well I will say I hope none of them
are going to O'Connell anyway. Well they probably wouldn't be
from up where you are, although no, I.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Guess some people.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Yeah, some people make people do. Wait, am I going
to line one? Hi Elliott the morning?
Speaker 5 (02:52):
Hey Elliott, I'm actually switching jobs today after fifteen.
Speaker 6 (02:57):
Years at my current job.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
What made you swing.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
A big pay raise and the need to want more
time with my toddler so I'll be able to pick
him up or drop him off.
Speaker 7 (03:11):
Every day and that means the world something you know,
I didn't think about until recently.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Yeah, no, I mean until you have one. I feel
the same way the from the time they started kindergarten
until they graduated high school. I have no idea what
time school even started anyway. Anyway, So don't so money
played into it. You know what I thought was interesting
(03:36):
I was reading about this money is not really as
much of a deciding factor as people assume that it is. Yeah,
does it come into play, sure, if it is a
pay raise that is a dramatic pay raise. Then obviously
that weighs more. But a lot of people will go like, oh,
it's more money, that's really not it. It's not as
(04:00):
it's not as high up on the priority list as
as people would assume. That's what I would have assumed,
is that it's it's mine.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
I believe that after COVID as well with all the
hybrid work, people realize that you can get a lot
more out of life having just that time back with
either yourself or your family. So I believe that money
probably isn't that high compared to just time.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
And you know what, and and like yours would be
like work, work, life balance or whatever that obviously plays
into it, they said, And I don't need to go
through every one of them.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Hey, Christian, do me a favor, Do me a favor.
Will you find me a couple of other people that
are switching switching jobs? Hey, dude, congrats on your new gig.
Speaker 7 (04:41):
Thank you, thank you, thank God.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Thank you, thank you, mich everybody you got it. Yeah,
find me a couple of people that are that are
switching jobs, please eight six six to or have done
it recently eight six six to Elliott eight six six
two three five five, four, six, eight, I'll take done
it recently, are literally in the process like that guy,
or are planning to switch like they're they're looking, they're
(05:08):
looking would be good right now. So they actually said
there are thirty reasons based on research and study and
talking to people who change jobs and don't change jobs.
Thirty different reasons of why people change jobs or don't
(05:30):
change jobs.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Seems like a lot.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
It is it is.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
I feel, okay, I could have spend all day and
not get to No.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
No, you wouldn't even come close, like because and again
on the top of your mind you go like, oh,
I hate the company, money, work, life, balance, the end.
But that's not it for.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Those two much umbrella esque.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Yet absolutely absolutely there are of those thirty. There are
fourteen forces that push people to quit their jobs and
sixteen forces that pull people towards something new. Okay, I
thought that was pretty interesting. I can't by the way,
(06:13):
don't ask me what those thirty are. I can't tell you.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Oh, they didn't give you the fourteen and the sixteen.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
No.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
So then they started going to employ like people who
have like they said, we're leaving whatever. Yeah, and so
they talk to them about what could have been done.
Why wouldn't you have stayed?
Speaker 4 (06:32):
And they say there are four questions, only four questions
that managers should be asking employees.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
That would help in job retention.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
So the focus of this is there is so much
that can push or pull away somebody from you.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
How do you keep how do you keep them? And
at a time when people are changing more and more,
people are changing jobs at a much faster pace, how
do you keep your employees? Where am I going, Kristen
those I'll give you line swaw hi Ellia in the morning. Hey, hey,
(07:11):
are you switching gigs?
Speaker 8 (07:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (07:14):
I saw my new job on the twenty seventh?
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Hey what made you? What made you leave?
Speaker 6 (07:21):
Uh?
Speaker 8 (07:21):
Well, the first I get a thirty k pay bump?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Who good?
Speaker 3 (07:26):
That is what you said was significant.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
That's a significant pay job. Dude.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
You're gonna make thirty thousand dollars a year more.
Speaker 6 (07:35):
Yeah, I'm going to sixty to.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Eighty dude, dude, good for you.
Speaker 8 (07:41):
They say, as I can't wait. I'm so excited. But
the thing, I like my job, I like the company
I'm at now. And I asked for a raise about
maybe two months ago, probably like ten thousand dollars a
year bump, so I wasn't asked it for much.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
And they told you, they told you know, they told
you no.
Speaker 8 (07:58):
They told me to wait for four months for employee reviews,
and I've already I'm worried. And I told them, I'm
working for you for six years. I gotta wait three
to four months.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Six years? Yeah, six years. And here's what's funny. I
bet if they would have given you the ten grand,
you would have stayed.
Speaker 8 (08:17):
I would have because I like what I do and
I like the people I work with. But management obviously
doesn't see my value. But someone else does.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Yeah, no, good for you, Good for you, dude, I
would have jumped. Also, you almost doubled your salary.
Speaker 8 (08:31):
Bro, I'd say, when I told my wife you, she
was sick, but I told her with the phollows who
that was great?
Speaker 6 (08:40):
But I can't.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
All right, dude, congratulations Number one, it's only double the hours.
Number one, I'd still do it. I'd still do it.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
And then you need to have double the salary.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Question number one that a manager should ask an employee,
not when they come in and they go, I'm giving
you two weeks. These should be part of evaluations ongoing conversations.
Are you ready, when was the last time you almost quit?
Speaker 3 (09:13):
That's great, Diana, Are you going to be honest? You
sometimes worry about surveys like this. Again, this is face
to face, this is yes.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
So it's definitely not an anonymous Have I almost ever
quit here?
Speaker 4 (09:28):
No?
Speaker 1 (09:28):
No, no, that wasn't what I asked. I'm I'm a
manager should say to an employee. And again, not when
you come in and you turn in your two weeks
notice when you are quitting. But yes, then it's too late.
But as an ongoing like that guy, right, he switched
a job after six years, I would bet after during
those six years, these four questions were never asked to him.
(09:50):
Number one, when was the last time you almost quit?
Speaker 2 (09:56):
I can't remember a time that not in this job.
I don't remember you remember almost quitting any job.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
You've never almost quit this job?
Speaker 4 (10:04):
No?
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Oh, I have?
Speaker 3 (10:06):
How recently?
Speaker 1 (10:08):
No? I could I could tell I could tell you
there have been a couple of times, But no, no, no,
I get angry and I get dark. The closest I
came to quitting, and this is like legit quitting was
the aftermath of O R oh. That was because that
was filled that was without getting into all the weeds.
(10:29):
It was embarrassing, it was humiliating. I learned everybody in
the aftermath, everybody that I thought was was was invested,
were a bunch of liars. And that was the closest
I came to like legit walking in Like, do I
threaten to quit a lot?
Speaker 6 (10:48):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (10:49):
The uh that's weekly, that's weekly. Yeah, I threatened to
quit a lot, and in that moment I would.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
But the closest I actually came to going, it's just
not worth it. It's not it's not worth It was
the aftermath of or now.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Did you express that to anybody?
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Yeah, in the company? No, well that's what this whole
thing is.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Nobody asked me.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Oh, it's on them.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Nobody asked me.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
They were busy lying.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
They were.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Busy giving those apartments to other people.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
The no and listen, that's bitter, that's bitter. No, no,
but listen and like, like, we will make jokes like
we were on in Atlanta and got fired and stuff
like that. That's fine, But that didn't make me want
to quit. I was proud we tried. And by the way,
we didn't get fired for anything wrong. It's not my
fault that companies go bankrupt. All that being said, the
wr instance in fallout was and it was a long fallout.
(11:48):
That's the closest I came to quitting, like literally where
it was going to be. I'd already had the conversation
with Jackie that I just today this could be it.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Now a follow up question, yes, because this hasn't been
your only job in radio? Yes, was that the closest
you've come to quitting amongst all of your career in radio?
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Not even close? No, no, no, nothing else is close. Yeah,
nothing else is close. It was bad. That was as
close as I've came. Listen, I've been fired planning, and
I've left jobs. But that was the closest I ever
came to. And nothing even comes close.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Is it weird? I've never felt like close to quitting
a job.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Are you serious?
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I can't think of an instance where I was like,
that's what I'm done. Makes me feel that's what I'm done?
Speaker 1 (12:32):
No, Like, I know people that work with other people
where they like, I mean, this is all radio stupid
stuff that are very close to quitting because they hate
the people they work with.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
No, Okay, it's a healthy business, But to this day.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
A lot of the people that were involved in the
whole wr and aftermath to this day, I hate them.
I hate them, hate them.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
So it didn't help you get over it because there
was some people may be wondering turnover at the corporate level. No,
they're still there, Yes, they're still there. Maybe you grew
Oh no, you just said you still hate that. You
grew to hate the more, damn it.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
So that's number one. Give me somebody else, Give me
somebody else. Line six, Hi, Elliott the morning.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
Hey is this meme?
Speaker 4 (13:26):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Yeah, Hi, who's that?
Speaker 6 (13:29):
Hey?
Speaker 7 (13:29):
This is Kevin from Annapolis.
Speaker 6 (13:30):
It's gone.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Hey are you changing? Did you recently change? So?
Speaker 7 (13:35):
I changed about two and a half years ago. I
went from one consulting gig to a new one. I
moved over to Deloitte. Actually that's my company. But I
got a I know, I know, you mentioned what all
the time. I love it, but I had a I
had a forty five thousand dollars bump when I made
the jomp.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Oh my god, now, oh my god.
Speaker 7 (13:55):
Yeah, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
I's a no brainer for sure. Was that the only reason?
Speaker 6 (14:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (14:01):
Hunter, Well, I won't say that. I mean I was
I was kind of getting I'd been with the previous
the previous company for like three three years, and I'll
get a little stagnant, like I was trying to trying
to keep advancing, and I wasn't like in any opportunities.
And then of course the lay comes along and offers
you forty five grand and you're like, you can get
more opportunity that way too. So I was like, yeah,
I'm gonna take day.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
By the way, if Deloitte offered me forty five thousand
dollars right now, I'd come, Hey, did your boss inortunity
now in your three years at the previous place? And
how long did you say you've been at.
Speaker 6 (14:34):
Deloitte now about two and a half years.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Okay, so in the last let's call it six years,
let's just round it up. As a manager at any
point ever said when was the last time you almost quit?
Speaker 8 (14:47):
No?
Speaker 6 (14:47):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Question number question number two, good question. Oh, it's a
great question. Question number two that a manager should be
asking for employee retention. When was the most recent time
that work didn't feel like work?
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Like?
Speaker 7 (15:06):
What does that mean?
Speaker 6 (15:07):
Like where I'm not I don't feel like challenged?
Speaker 4 (15:09):
I guess I don't know, or where where you you
you feel so good about what you're doing that it
doesn't feel like you're working.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
It feels like that is just like it's a it's
just a great moment.
Speaker 7 (15:24):
So I definitely felt like on autopilot, and I I've
never been asked that, but on autopilot at the previous
game that I was.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
Definite just because it wasn't. I guess it's kind of
nice because of that.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Like you get good about right, hold on one second,
asked Deloyde to get you figure with that forty five grand,
you get a good phone, all right, hold on one second,
Hold on one second. Maybe he's driving by American University.
The towers all messed up.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
And again when you said significant bump, I was not
picturing money this big. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
No, significant bump to me is like you got like
one thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
I mean you're talking about raises equivalent to annual salaries.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Yeah, that's a significant but wouldn't be like five grand
is a significant bump? Yes, yes, yeah, forty five grand. No,
But what they mean by that is so that engages
the conversation.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
So he was wrong because I thought maybe it was
a trick question in the no, no, heed to see
because it is kind of ambiguous which way you went
with the answer, but they do mean it in a
more positive light.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Absolutely, yeah, because then they want to go So so
if you if you get that, So your first question
is you found out something that they hated, what happened
where you were you were at the end of your rope.
Then the follow up question is when did work not
feel like work? What was good? And then you dig deeper.
Was it the team you were working with? Was it
you closed a big deal? Like at what point, like
(16:46):
you were so invested in it that you were you
were being driven by motivation and and and adrenaline and
it wasn't like, well, it's my job and I come in. Yeah,
that's a great question.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Now I would say I don't want to answer that
for all of us, but I think there are moments
like that daily. Oh, I mean, yes, I agree with that. Yeah,
from the time the show starts till it ends.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
I mean, but I also think too, like show trips
are are technically work, but that's not work, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Yeah, No, I agree with that. I agree with that.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Social media aspects of those stress me out and having
narrative on every single platform.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Yeah, but no, like for me, it's the start and
end of every show. Oh, Julip the I love the song. No, no,
but like to me, it's this didn't work. I love this.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
I see. I think there's a difference between I can't
believe I get to do this for a living and
really not being able to define it as work. There
are okay during the broadcast. It's it's an credible unexpected position.
(18:04):
I think we all could say we find ourselves in
even at this point in our careers. Yeah, I'm right now,
and you certainly don't take it for granted. No, but
there are moments where like, yes, you don't follow a clock,
but you you do have to work in commercial breaks.
(18:25):
In your perfect world, there'd be no break nothing.
Speaker 6 (18:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Yeah, you would just eat on the air. Well, you
do that anyway, You just do that example, And you'd
pee in a bucket in the corner.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah, I would even put the bucket in the corner.
I would just do it right here.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Stretch your mic out.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Yeah all right, Yeah, No, that's that's that's fair. That's fair.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
There's some stuff you have to do.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
True, I'll give you that. I'll give you that.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
By the way that reminds me. Don't have a training
that's due next week? Oh next week?
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Now, I don't.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
I think it's the eighteenth.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Do you know how many emails I get every day
now about how much train I'm missing? Don't care? You know,
I don't care. Long hair, w O R Hi Elliott
the morning.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
Hey, good morning? How are you?
Speaker 1 (19:09):
I am doing great? Who is this? This is Casey?
Speaker 6 (19:12):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Did you did you recently switch over? You in the
process or what about three months ago? I changed jobs?
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Did you really? What was the motivating factor?
Speaker 9 (19:23):
My I got a new boss that I just did
not like. I've been at the company eight years. He
came in just kind of being a jerk.
Speaker 6 (19:29):
So I lived and I got a fifty thousand dollars
a year bump.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Okay, do you work for deloitteous?
Speaker 4 (19:37):
No?
Speaker 9 (19:37):
No, no, no, you got money from here. I'm from
the South. I'm just tuning in.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Driving the work. Hey, where where do you live? Where
do you live Mississippi? What part uh Jackson? Is today
the first day you've listened? Yes, sir, how the hell
did you find us?
Speaker 6 (19:54):
It was just on my rental car and I picked
it up.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Oh good, Oh, very good. Great rental car, great rental car. Yes, right,
available on the on the iHeartRadio or Odyssey app. Although
there's a guy on a tower at American University. So
if you listen on Odyssey, some of the commercials are
being Spanish. I don't know if you speak Spanish. The
uh okay, you're nailing it. But yeah, no, I want
(20:18):
you to listen when you get back to Mississippi.
Speaker 6 (20:21):
What we're we gonna do it?
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Sir?
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Excellent? Excellent?
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Hey, so I will dude, you got fifty thousand dollars
more amazing.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
And it was what now?
Speaker 8 (20:31):
And you?
Speaker 1 (20:32):
But in fairness, you also hated your boss.
Speaker 6 (20:35):
Yes, yes, I don't want people to micro manage me.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Don't come to iHeart. Although I shouldn't say that, I
shouldn't say that Aaron Aaron is a great boss. Aaron
is not on the list of people I hate. I
love Aaron.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
He sounds great.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
No, he is.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
He is the Oh, you don't even know anything about Aaron.
He got a Brazilian butt lift back in the day.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
He got as.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Did your previous employer? Did your previous employer during those
eight years? Question number three, ever, say what trade offs
are you? What trade offs are you making to stay
in this role?
Speaker 4 (21:12):
None.
Speaker 9 (21:13):
They just told me that they expect me to be
there seventy hours a week.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
I like that one. Also, I like the trade off
one because they'll tell you everybody isn't giving one hundred
percent one hundred percent of the time, So what trade
offs are you making in order to stay in this job?
And that gets them to that gets to work life
balance of them being able to go Like the guy
who was like, I get to take my kid to school. Yeah, right,
(21:38):
So maybe if they would have said what trade offs,
maybe he would have been like, listen, I have a
brand new kid who's starting school. This new you wouldn't
even have to get to the new job. What if
they said, oh, dude, you know what, that's awesome this year,
why don't you come in a half hour later and
drive your kid to school? You know what I mean?
So that would be something where they would never go
look for another job. Well, they also probably didn't know
(22:00):
that there was fifty thousand dollars out there waiting for him. No, no,
but you know what I mean, you wouldn't even get
to that. But people don't have these conversations in order
to retain employees.
Speaker 9 (22:10):
Employers are starting to realize now if their employees are
living their best life outside of work, and they're.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
Giving them more when they're at work.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Amen. Amen, Amen sir. How long are you in the
area until Saturday?
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Very good. Enjoy our town, have fun. I don't know
what you're doing here, but be cool with it. And
then oh you will be What part of Mississippi are
you from?
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Jackson?
Speaker 1 (22:32):
He says Jacks Jackson.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Right. Also, I don't listen very well, so you'll learn
that you will be you do you do? You will
be our official Jackson, Mississippi correspondent.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Perfect, hold on, let me get your shirt. Hold on
one second. Love this guy? Nice and thanks to whoever
left the station on in the rental car question.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Number four, Big Mike Jones fans over at the last question,
question number five for.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
If this job disappeared tomorrow, what would you choose to
do next?
Speaker 1 (23:08):
That's a great one, and.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
They're asking that while you're gainfully employed, Yes, wouldn't you
be like, uh, what do you know?
Speaker 1 (23:15):
No? No, no, But isn't that.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Or do they want to see if you have an
intention to like switch completely a different career.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Here's here's what they say, this question can be awkward,
but acknowledges the basic truth. Jobs are temporary. None of
us are in a role forever, and we are always
passively looking for our next job. This question allows us
(23:45):
to put a finer point on the employee's aspirations. Very
religious the no. No, but that's good. And keep in
mind everybody's quitting jobs every two every every less than
high school point nine ye, every three point nine years.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Yeah, but when you've been in the same job for
over twenty years, you don't think much about trends.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
No, not at all, but that but again, we're the anomaly.
We're the anomaly.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
But when faced with a question like that, it's scary.
M Oh, very scary. Oh yeah, yeah, you seem to
not think that it is terrifying because you're very far
away from not only interviewing or writing resumes or whatever
(24:33):
you have to do to then move forward. But you've
had the same role for that amount of time, which obviously,
oh you know what, that is a good point, can
look stagnant.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
So this isn't it Because like my first gut reaction was, oh,
I just go get a job being a disc jockey
somewhere else. But I don't think that's the question.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Oh you think it's if this, if this a role
no longer existed in the workforce.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Oh, but that wouldn't be the case, I know, all right,
So I just go be a dis jockey somewhere else.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Look at all the employed dis jockeys. They can't stop
getting new jobs. You know that's not true. No, I
know you know where I wouldn't have had your issues
with other radio companies.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Well, there's the problem. There's the problem.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
You can't just go running down the street.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
No no, no, no, no, no, no no. In DC, unemployable, unemployable,
Yeah, we're we're anomalies.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Yeah, we My last job changed was almost twenty six
years ago.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
So yeah, no, it was too mine too to come here.
You know what the average is? I do not. I
was shocked. What do you think the averages that somebody
switches jobs?
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Isn't it like window gotten smaller? And yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Is it something like three or four?
Speaker 4 (00:24):
Now?
Speaker 1 (00:25):
They said people people are changing jobs now more than
ever before, and the window of time that they're staying
at a job is shrinking. So people are moving job
to job faster and faster. Now, remember it's not going
to be every six months. The guy we just talked to,
(00:45):
he's ten years. We're more than that, but we're unicorns.
What is that number?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I'll say three or four, I'll say five.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Three point nine?
Speaker 4 (00:57):
No, three point nine years is the average for somebody
to switch jobs.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Less than high school?
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Now, you know what, that's a great way to look
at it. No, that really is well, that's a great
way to.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Look at do Seinfeld episode.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
No, that's true, and I didn't have I didn't have
that in but yeah, you wouldn't make it all the
way through high school without switching jobs. That's like, you
know what that is that's switching high schools at the
at Christmas break of your senior year.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
You know what. This is off topic, but related to
high schools and the eighth grade graduation yesterday. The school
that my son goes to and my daughter will next year,
likes to tout itself as the only true feeder school
of the high school because they don't split up their.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Body.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Every single person goes to the same high school. And
that's not true for yeah, a lot of times they
split middle schools, all middle schools. So to me, yeah,
maybe you're going away for the summer or you go
to camp or whatever may be, and you're gonna miss
your friends. But because you're all going to be there
next year, I didn't think it would be as emotional.
(02:05):
I forgot about all the kids that were going to
private high school. Oh yeah, oh yeah, man, there were
some tears after it ended.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Yeah, but you know what, I didn't even think of that,
like because like where my kid went to middle school,
Like they got split between WL and Yorktown, or you know,
some went to Arlington Tech and stuff. But everybody goes
unless like you said, they give you a private school. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Yeah, So we walked out and I was like, why
are why are there something people crying? You'll see him
in the fall. No, no, no, you won't.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Okay, well I will say I hope none of them
are going to O'Connell anyway. Well they probably wouldn't be
from up where you are, although no, I.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Guess some people.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Yeah, some people make people do. Wait, am I going
to line one? Hi Elliott the morning?
Speaker 5 (02:52):
Hey Elliott, I'm actually switching jobs today after fifteen.
Speaker 6 (02:57):
Years at my current job.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
What made you swing.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
A big pay raise and the need to want more
time with my toddler so I'll be able to pick
him up or drop him off.
Speaker 7 (03:11):
Every day and that means the world something you know,
I didn't think about until recently.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Yeah, no, I mean until you have one. I feel
the same way the from the time they started kindergarten
until they graduated high school. I have no idea what
time school even started anyway. Anyway, So don't so money
played into it. You know what I thought was interesting
(03:36):
I was reading about this money is not really as
much of a deciding factor as people assume that it is. Yeah,
does it come into play, sure, if it is a
pay raise that is a dramatic pay raise. Then obviously
that weighs more. But a lot of people will go like, oh,
it's more money, that's really not it. It's not as
(04:00):
it's not as high up on the priority list as
as people would assume. That's what I would have assumed,
is that it's it's mine.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
I believe that after COVID as well with all the
hybrid work, people realize that you can get a lot
more out of life having just that time back with
either yourself or your family. So I believe that money
probably isn't that high compared to just time.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
And you know what, and and like yours would be
like work, work, life balance or whatever that obviously plays
into it, they said, And I don't need to go
through every one of them.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Hey, Christian, do me a favor, Do me a favor.
Will you find me a couple of other people that
are switching switching jobs? Hey, dude, congrats on your new gig.
Speaker 7 (04:41):
Thank you, thank you, thank God.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Thank you, thank you, mich everybody you got it. Yeah,
find me a couple of people that are that are
switching jobs, please eight six six to or have done
it recently eight six six to Elliott eight six six
two three five five, four, six, eight, I'll take done
it recently, are literally in the process like that guy,
or are planning to switch like they're they're looking, they're
(05:08):
looking would be good right now. So they actually said
there are thirty reasons based on research and study and
talking to people who change jobs and don't change jobs.
Thirty different reasons of why people change jobs or don't
(05:30):
change jobs.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Seems like a lot.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
It is it is.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
I feel, okay, I could have spend all day and
not get to No.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
No, you wouldn't even come close, like because and again
on the top of your mind you go like, oh,
I hate the company, money, work, life, balance, the end.
But that's not it for.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Those two much umbrella esque.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Yet absolutely absolutely there are of those thirty. There are
fourteen forces that push people to quit their jobs and
sixteen forces that pull people towards something new. Okay, I
thought that was pretty interesting. I can't by the way,
(06:13):
don't ask me what those thirty are. I can't tell you.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Oh, they didn't give you the fourteen and the sixteen.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
No.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
So then they started going to employ like people who
have like they said, we're leaving whatever. Yeah, and so
they talk to them about what could have been done.
Why wouldn't you have stayed?
Speaker 4 (06:32):
And they say there are four questions, only four questions
that managers should be asking employees.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
That would help in job retention.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
So the focus of this is there is so much
that can push or pull away somebody from you.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
How do you keep how do you keep them? And
at a time when people are changing more and more,
people are changing jobs at a much faster pace, how
do you keep your employees? Where am I going, Kristen
those I'll give you line swaw hi Ellia in the morning. Hey, hey,
(07:11):
are you switching gigs?
Speaker 8 (07:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (07:14):
I saw my new job on the twenty seventh?
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Hey what made you? What made you leave?
Speaker 6 (07:21):
Uh?
Speaker 8 (07:21):
Well, the first I get a thirty k pay bump?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Who good?
Speaker 3 (07:26):
That is what you said was significant.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
That's a significant pay job. Dude.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
You're gonna make thirty thousand dollars a year more.
Speaker 6 (07:35):
Yeah, I'm going to sixty to.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Eighty dude, dude, good for you.
Speaker 8 (07:41):
They say, as I can't wait. I'm so excited. But
the thing, I like my job, I like the company
I'm at now. And I asked for a raise about
maybe two months ago, probably like ten thousand dollars a
year bump, so I wasn't asked it for much.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
And they told you, they told you know, they told
you no.
Speaker 8 (07:58):
They told me to wait for four months for employee reviews,
and I've already I'm worried. And I told them, I'm
working for you for six years. I gotta wait three
to four months.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Six years? Yeah, six years. And here's what's funny. I
bet if they would have given you the ten grand,
you would have stayed.
Speaker 8 (08:17):
I would have because I like what I do and
I like the people I work with. But management obviously
doesn't see my value. But someone else does.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Yeah, no, good for you, Good for you, dude, I
would have jumped. Also, you almost doubled your salary.
Speaker 8 (08:31):
Bro, I'd say, when I told my wife you, she
was sick, but I told her with the phollows who
that was great?
Speaker 6 (08:40):
But I can't.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
All right, dude, congratulations Number one, it's only double the hours.
Number one, I'd still do it. I'd still do it.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
And then you need to have double the salary.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Question number one that a manager should ask an employee,
not when they come in and they go, I'm giving
you two weeks. These should be part of evaluations ongoing conversations.
Are you ready, when was the last time you almost quit?
Speaker 3 (09:13):
That's great, Diana, Are you going to be honest? You
sometimes worry about surveys like this. Again, this is face
to face, this is yes.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
So it's definitely not an anonymous Have I almost ever
quit here?
Speaker 4 (09:28):
No?
Speaker 1 (09:28):
No, no, that wasn't what I asked. I'm I'm a
manager should say to an employee. And again, not when
you come in and you turn in your two weeks
notice when you are quitting. But yes, then it's too late.
But as an ongoing like that guy, right, he switched
a job after six years, I would bet after during
those six years, these four questions were never asked to him.
(09:50):
Number one, when was the last time you almost quit?
Speaker 2 (09:56):
I can't remember a time that not in this job.
I don't remember you remember almost quitting any job.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
You've never almost quit this job?
Speaker 4 (10:04):
No?
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Oh, I have?
Speaker 3 (10:06):
How recently?
Speaker 1 (10:08):
No? I could I could tell I could tell you
there have been a couple of times, But no, no, no,
I get angry and I get dark. The closest I
came to quitting, and this is like legit quitting was
the aftermath of O R oh. That was because that
was filled that was without getting into all the weeds.
(10:29):
It was embarrassing, it was humiliating. I learned everybody in
the aftermath, everybody that I thought was was was invested,
were a bunch of liars. And that was the closest
I came to like legit walking in Like, do I
threaten to quit a lot?
Speaker 6 (10:48):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (10:49):
The uh that's weekly, that's weekly. Yeah, I threatened to
quit a lot, and in that moment I would.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
But the closest I actually came to going, it's just
not worth it. It's not it's not worth It was
the aftermath of or now.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Did you express that to anybody?
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Yeah, in the company? No, well that's what this whole
thing is.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Nobody asked me.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Oh, it's on them.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Nobody asked me.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
They were busy lying.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
They were.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Busy giving those apartments to other people.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
The no and listen, that's bitter, that's bitter. No, no,
but listen and like, like, we will make jokes like
we were on in Atlanta and got fired and stuff
like that. That's fine, But that didn't make me want
to quit. I was proud we tried. And by the way,
we didn't get fired for anything wrong. It's not my
fault that companies go bankrupt. All that being said, the
wr instance in fallout was and it was a long fallout.
(11:48):
That's the closest I came to quitting, like literally where
it was going to be. I'd already had the conversation
with Jackie that I just today this could be it.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Now a follow up question, yes, because this hasn't been
your only job in radio? Yes, was that the closest
you've come to quitting amongst all of your career in radio?
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Not even close? No, no, no, nothing else is close. Yeah,
nothing else is close. It was bad. That was as
close as I've came. Listen, I've been fired planning, and
I've left jobs. But that was the closest I ever
came to. And nothing even comes close.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Is it weird? I've never felt like close to quitting
a job.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Are you serious?
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I can't think of an instance where I was like,
that's what I'm done. Makes me feel that's what I'm done?
Speaker 1 (12:32):
No, Like, I know people that work with other people
where they like, I mean, this is all radio stupid
stuff that are very close to quitting because they hate
the people they work with.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
No, Okay, it's a healthy business, But to this day.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
A lot of the people that were involved in the
whole wr and aftermath to this day, I hate them.
I hate them, hate them.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
So it didn't help you get over it because there
was some people may be wondering turnover at the corporate level. No,
they're still there, Yes, they're still there. Maybe you grew
Oh no, you just said you still hate that. You
grew to hate the more, damn it.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
So that's number one. Give me somebody else, Give me
somebody else. Line six, Hi, Elliott the morning.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
Hey is this meme?
Speaker 4 (13:26):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Yeah, Hi, who's that?
Speaker 6 (13:29):
Hey?
Speaker 7 (13:29):
This is Kevin from Annapolis.
Speaker 6 (13:30):
It's gone.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Hey are you changing? Did you recently change? So?
Speaker 7 (13:35):
I changed about two and a half years ago. I
went from one consulting gig to a new one. I
moved over to Deloitte. Actually that's my company. But I
got a I know, I know, you mentioned what all
the time. I love it, but I had a I
had a forty five thousand dollars bump when I made
the jomp.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Oh my god, now, oh my god.
Speaker 7 (13:55):
Yeah, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
I's a no brainer for sure. Was that the only reason?
Speaker 6 (14:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (14:01):
Hunter, Well, I won't say that. I mean I was
I was kind of getting I'd been with the previous
the previous company for like three three years, and I'll
get a little stagnant, like I was trying to trying
to keep advancing, and I wasn't like in any opportunities.
And then of course the lay comes along and offers
you forty five grand and you're like, you can get
more opportunity that way too. So I was like, yeah,
I'm gonna take day.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
By the way, if Deloitte offered me forty five thousand
dollars right now, I'd come, Hey, did your boss inortunity
now in your three years at the previous place? And
how long did you say you've been at.
Speaker 6 (14:34):
Deloitte now about two and a half years.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Okay, so in the last let's call it six years,
let's just round it up. As a manager at any
point ever said when was the last time you almost quit?
Speaker 8 (14:47):
No?
Speaker 6 (14:47):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Question number question number two, good question. Oh, it's a
great question. Question number two that a manager should be
asking for employee retention. When was the most recent time
that work didn't feel like work?
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Like?
Speaker 7 (15:06):
What does that mean?
Speaker 6 (15:07):
Like where I'm not I don't feel like challenged?
Speaker 4 (15:09):
I guess I don't know, or where where you you
you feel so good about what you're doing that it
doesn't feel like you're working.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
It feels like that is just like it's a it's
just a great moment.
Speaker 7 (15:24):
So I definitely felt like on autopilot, and I I've
never been asked that, but on autopilot at the previous
game that I was.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
Definite just because it wasn't. I guess it's kind of
nice because of that.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Like you get good about right, hold on one second,
asked Deloyde to get you figure with that forty five grand,
you get a good phone, all right, hold on one second,
Hold on one second. Maybe he's driving by American University.
The towers all messed up.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
And again when you said significant bump, I was not
picturing money this big. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
No, significant bump to me is like you got like
one thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
I mean you're talking about raises equivalent to annual salaries.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Yeah, that's a significant but wouldn't be like five grand
is a significant bump? Yes, yes, yeah, forty five grand. No,
But what they mean by that is so that engages
the conversation.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
So he was wrong because I thought maybe it was
a trick question in the no, no, heed to see
because it is kind of ambiguous which way you went
with the answer, but they do mean it in a
more positive light.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Absolutely, yeah, because then they want to go So so
if you if you get that, So your first question
is you found out something that they hated, what happened
where you were you were at the end of your rope.
Then the follow up question is when did work not
feel like work? What was good? And then you dig deeper.
Was it the team you were working with? Was it
you closed a big deal? Like at what point, like
(16:46):
you were so invested in it that you were you
were being driven by motivation and and and adrenaline and
it wasn't like, well, it's my job and I come in. Yeah,
that's a great question.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Now I would say I don't want to answer that
for all of us, but I think there are moments
like that daily. Oh, I mean, yes, I agree with that. Yeah,
from the time the show starts till it ends.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
I mean, but I also think too, like show trips
are are technically work, but that's not work, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Yeah, No, I agree with that. I agree with that.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Social media aspects of those stress me out and having
narrative on every single platform.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Yeah, but no, like for me, it's the start and
end of every show. Oh, Julip the I love the song. No, no,
but like to me, it's this didn't work. I love this.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
I see. I think there's a difference between I can't
believe I get to do this for a living and
really not being able to define it as work. There
are okay during the broadcast. It's it's an credible unexpected position.
(18:04):
I think we all could say we find ourselves in
even at this point in our careers. Yeah, I'm right now,
and you certainly don't take it for granted. No, but
there are moments where like, yes, you don't follow a clock,
but you you do have to work in commercial breaks.
(18:25):
In your perfect world, there'd be no break nothing.
Speaker 6 (18:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Yeah, you would just eat on the air. Well, you
do that anyway, You just do that example, And you'd
pee in a bucket in the corner.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Yeah, I would even put the bucket in the corner.
I would just do it right here.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Stretch your mic out.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Yeah all right, Yeah, No, that's that's that's fair. That's fair.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
There's some stuff you have to do.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
True, I'll give you that. I'll give you that.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
By the way that reminds me. Don't have a training
that's due next week? Oh next week?
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Now, I don't.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
I think it's the eighteenth.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Do you know how many emails I get every day
now about how much train I'm missing? Don't care? You know,
I don't care. Long hair, w O R Hi Elliott
the morning.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
Hey, good morning? How are you?
Speaker 1 (19:09):
I am doing great? Who is this? This is Casey?
Speaker 6 (19:12):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Did you did you recently switch over? You in the
process or what about three months ago? I changed jobs?
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Did you really? What was the motivating factor?
Speaker 9 (19:23):
My I got a new boss that I just did
not like. I've been at the company eight years. He
came in just kind of being a jerk.
Speaker 6 (19:29):
So I lived and I got a fifty thousand dollars
a year bump.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Okay, do you work for deloitteous?
Speaker 4 (19:37):
No?
Speaker 9 (19:37):
No, no, no, you got money from here. I'm from
the South. I'm just tuning in.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Driving the work. Hey, where where do you live? Where
do you live Mississippi? What part uh Jackson? Is today
the first day you've listened? Yes, sir, how the hell
did you find us?
Speaker 6 (19:54):
It was just on my rental car and I picked
it up.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
Oh good, Oh, very good. Great rental car, great rental car. Yes, right,
available on the on the iHeartRadio or Odyssey app. Although
there's a guy on a tower at American University. So
if you listen on Odyssey, some of the commercials are
being Spanish. I don't know if you speak Spanish. The
uh okay, you're nailing it. But yeah, no, I want
(20:18):
you to listen when you get back to Mississippi.
Speaker 6 (20:21):
What we're we gonna do it?
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Sir?
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Excellent? Excellent?
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Hey, so I will dude, you got fifty thousand dollars
more amazing.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
And it was what now?
Speaker 8 (20:31):
And you?
Speaker 1 (20:32):
But in fairness, you also hated your boss.
Speaker 6 (20:35):
Yes, yes, I don't want people to micro manage me.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Don't come to iHeart. Although I shouldn't say that, I
shouldn't say that Aaron Aaron is a great boss. Aaron
is not on the list of people I hate. I
love Aaron.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
He sounds great.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
No, he is.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
He is the Oh, you don't even know anything about Aaron.
He got a Brazilian butt lift back in the day.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
He got as.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Did your previous employer? Did your previous employer during those
eight years? Question number three, ever, say what trade offs
are you? What trade offs are you making to stay
in this role?
Speaker 4 (21:12):
None.
Speaker 9 (21:13):
They just told me that they expect me to be
there seventy hours a week.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
I like that one. Also, I like the trade off
one because they'll tell you everybody isn't giving one hundred
percent one hundred percent of the time, So what trade
offs are you making in order to stay in this job?
And that gets them to that gets to work life
balance of them being able to go Like the guy
who was like, I get to take my kid to school. Yeah, right,
(21:38):
So maybe if they would have said what trade offs,
maybe he would have been like, listen, I have a
brand new kid who's starting school. This new you wouldn't
even have to get to the new job. What if
they said, oh, dude, you know what, that's awesome this year,
why don't you come in a half hour later and
drive your kid to school? You know what I mean?
So that would be something where they would never go
look for another job. Well, they also probably didn't know
(22:00):
that there was fifty thousand dollars out there waiting for him. No, no,
but you know what I mean, you wouldn't even get
to that. But people don't have these conversations in order
to retain employees.
Speaker 9 (22:10):
Employers are starting to realize now if their employees are
living their best life outside of work, and they're.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
Giving them more when they're at work.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Amen. Amen, Amen sir. How long are you in the
area until Saturday?
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Very good. Enjoy our town, have fun. I don't know
what you're doing here, but be cool with it. And
then oh you will be What part of Mississippi are
you from?
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Jackson?
Speaker 1 (22:32):
He says Jacks Jackson.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Right. Also, I don't listen very well, so you'll learn
that you will be you do you do? You will
be our official Jackson, Mississippi correspondent.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Perfect, hold on, let me get your shirt. Hold on
one second. Love this guy? Nice and thanks to whoever
left the station on in the rental car question.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Number four, Big Mike Jones fans over at the last question,
question number five for.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
If this job disappeared tomorrow, what would you choose to
do next?
Speaker 1 (23:08):
That's a great one, and.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
They're asking that while you're gainfully employed, Yes, wouldn't you
be like, uh, what do you know?
Speaker 1 (23:15):
No? No, no, But isn't that.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Or do they want to see if you have an
intention to like switch completely a different career.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Here's here's what they say, this question can be awkward,
but acknowledges the basic truth. Jobs are temporary. None of
us are in a role forever, and we are always
passively looking for our next job. This question allows us
(23:45):
to put a finer point on the employee's aspirations. Very
religious the no. No, but that's good. And keep in
mind everybody's quitting jobs every two every every less than
high school point nine ye, every three point nine years.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Yeah, but when you've been in the same job for
over twenty years, you don't think much about trends.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
No, not at all, but that but again, we're the anomaly.
We're the anomaly.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
But when faced with a question like that, it's scary.
M Oh, very scary. Oh yeah, yeah, you seem to
not think that it is terrifying because you're very far
away from not only interviewing or writing resumes or whatever
(24:33):
you have to do to then move forward. But you've
had the same role for that amount of time, which obviously,
oh you know what, that is a good point, can
look stagnant.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
So this isn't it Because like my first gut reaction was, oh,
I just go get a job being a disc jockey
somewhere else. But I don't think that's the question.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Oh you think it's if this, if this a role
no longer existed in the workforce.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Oh, but that wouldn't be the case, I know, all right,
So I just go be a dis jockey somewhere else.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
Look at all the employed dis jockeys. They can't stop
getting new jobs. You know that's not true. No, I
know you know where I wouldn't have had your issues
with other radio companies.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Well, there's the problem. There's the problem.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
You can't just go running down the street.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
No no, no, no, no, no, no no. In DC, unemployable, unemployable,
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