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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Do you know these people? Your home home is Ashland? Right? Yes?
O H I O, yes, that's that is where it is.
Do you know Lorie Camp's.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Is it two A's in her last name?
Speaker 3 (00:16):
No, it's k A MPs. No, she lives on Evergreen
Street in town? Yes, okay, I don't know. I don't
know where Evergreen is in town. The town is the
size of this paper, so yes. Also okay, so do.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
You know hold On? There was one other person what
is his name? He just got arrested, Thomas Norris.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
I don't personally know him, but I know what he
got arrested for.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
So you know this story?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Elliott. I am in the Ashland Chatter facebook group.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Yes, so I've never heard of this.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
I've never heard of this is stealing shoes off of
people's front porches, not just in Ashland.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
But like, is that a like? Do I get it?
If it's a prank?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Yes, Like if Diane left her shoes outside and I
drove by, I would take her shoes. Maybe not Diane's
because they're so big and heavy, but like as a prank,
I get it. But this guy is stealing people's shoes,
like when he got arrested, he had over one hundred
pairs of shoes that he had stolen. It's like and
Ashland is the size of this piece of paper, which
(01:31):
also makes me think everybody in Ashley takes their shoes
off and leaves them outside.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I did growing up.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Is he selling them? No, well, he just steals them
to keep them. It's not like it wasn't an Amazon
employee just busted for stealing two thousand shoes from New Balance.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Yes, but that is to sell exactly this guy is
selling or stealing. There's this one woman the reason I
asked about Lori Camps. He stole multiple pairs of shoes
on multiple days from her, and she knew that somebody
was stealing her shoes, and she was like, I gotta
find a way to like be able to She's got
(02:08):
It's not a ring camera, but it's almost like a
stop motion ring camera. So if he was quick, you
would only see him get like up towards the porch
and then leaving like you wouldn't see him on the porch.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
I've told you that with mine. The way they're set up,
if you run fast enough, they don't both get you.
Oh okay, because they can't film at the same time.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Oh, so there you go.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
So she was like, I need to find a way
to stall him on the front porch so that we
could get video of him. So I'm not even kidding.
She took a pair of shoes. He had already stolen
multiple pairs of shoes, not the same night, but had
gone back over and over and over to steal shoes.
So she was like, fine, she took a pair of shoes,
(02:48):
and she took a hammer and nail and she nailed
them onto the front porch, thinking this guy will grab,
but at least he'll be there long enough where it's
not just a grab. Well, anyway, he couldn't get it,
so you know what. He came back with hammer, used
the claw hand swear to God, Swear to God, use
the claw and to pull the to pull the nail out.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
And stole the shoes.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
So when she started talking to people, now, as luck
would have it, he was looking down at the shoe
when he was trying to hammer it.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
So now the picture is the back of his head.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
I don't know how they ended how did they end
up zeroing in on it, because there was somebody originally
that they zeroed in on, and he was he was cleared.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Yeah, so this specific mister Norris, I forget his first.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Name, Thomas, Thomas Norris.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
He this has been going on for a while, and
I remember seeing months, Yes, and I remember seeing it
first in the in the chatter and everyone's like, Okay,
it's just a prank, Like, who is.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
It, right, That's what I would think.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Is it a couple teens? No? And I think he's
in his fifties, so he's not a young.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
I think I think he's fifty six if I'm not mistaken,
or somewhere right around there.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
But he would in all the videos and this was constantly,
like the chatter was blowing up ring cameras, the chatter
of two hundred people.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Okay, so, but.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Like he would always have a hoodie over his head,
yes he if he didn't have a hood on, he
would pull his shirt over his head like from behind,
so his face was always covered. But yeah, I forget
how they zeroed down. But like because of the chatter,
it became not just one lady's porch, but multiple.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Oh there's so many people. Yeah, had it done like
once once once this lady the shoe nailer. Once she
started going public, everybody else was like, Oh, it happened
to me.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
It happened to me. It happened to me.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
She took she took a pair of shoes, a different
there's a different one. She took a pair of shoes,
and she she she she took a crap.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
I'm not even kidding. She took a crap in the shoes.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Yes, good, Yeah, she doesn't have a dog. Yeah, she
took an.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
S in the shoes.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Yes, and then set them out on the porch and
put a pair of crocs on top of them so
you couldn't see in. This guy, the Thomas Davis guy
or whatever his name is, Norris, he showed up. He
moved the crocs aside, and took the shoes with her
tish in it.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
There he is February twenty twenty four. Reports first started
coming in.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
But is that there he is?
Speaker 3 (05:30):
So?
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Is it a fetish?
Speaker 3 (05:32):
So?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Oh, I have a bit of an insider Jamo, No Thomas, Oh,
my insider says they worked with him and he got fired.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
He was very nice, that the shoe thief.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Shortly after he got fired he got put in jail. Wait,
am I not supposed to say all of this?
Speaker 1 (05:58):
You could say it nobody knows. Nobody knows.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
This article says he remains in Ashland County Jail.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
By the way, side, note, we have a Tim Hortons
is right in front of the county jail.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Are you serious in Ashley?
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Yes, I should have stopped when I was there.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
But you should have wait. So wait, go back because
I think there's two things. He is currently in jail
since he got busted for the shoe theft. Are you
saying he was in jail previously after he got fired.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yes, because he was running around town in his underwear.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
So he's been in and out right, but this was
I believe the bandit started after he got out of
jail the first time.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
After the first time.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Wow, what is this about her orthopedic shoes?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (06:53):
She well, she's the orthodox shoes stick in you.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Mean or no?
Speaker 2 (06:56):
No.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
They almost make it sound like it's like the cutty shoe,
like like I don't know if it has braces attached
to it, but not. I don't think it's just an
insert because like, oh, I'm on my feet all day.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
I think they're like I think you don't know her.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
No, you could say it she may be older.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
No, I was even gonna say older, I was gonna say, like,
she's like maybe like one of her legs is jacked
up or someone maybe so the but he even stole
her orthopedic shoes.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Yeah, which she values at one hundred dollars and needs
for daily work.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Yeah, I don't know what she does.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
So this guy, if he's making it into the paper,
he has, he's sort of like your celebrity right now.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Uh, yes, and has been.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
I know for the locals. I know for the locals.
But in terms of the national scene.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Did you see the videos? And maybe this is only
in the chatter because I can share it with you
real fast.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
But is the chatter what you refer to Facebook as?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
It's literally a group on Facebook. It's called the Ashland Chat.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Oh okay, okay, you should join.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
I think you have to say where you're from them,
but you can just say where.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
I'm from Arlington, virgin Just say all right, I'm going to.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Check that box. I promise I'm telling the truth.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I'm sending you a video real fast of when they
were the cops. So when he got caught.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Is that him?
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Oh that's not what I that's so this is obviously
not from when he's on a porch, he looks pathetic.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Well he is. He's just crawling around stealing shoes.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
And you just told a story in which he made
the choice to still take Pooh shoes. Okay, so what
what are you? What is this pile of shoes?
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Correct?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
So the after he got caught, they went into his house.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Where, oh my god, there.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Were tots and toats and toats.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Oh I thought you were saying like totally or like tot.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Totesma goats, so many tots of shoes. So the video
is of one.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Even the Holocaust Museum is like, god, damn, one of the.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Weird thing to say.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yeah, the video is of somebody driving past and you
see the cops pouring the totes of shoes out.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Away Elliott. Look watch the window on the second floor.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Oh my god, they are.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
But I was gonna say, I've never like, I don't
know that I've ever heard of that as a crime
where it's not a prank.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Well that's what they were saying that it's not that it's.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Not a crime. It is a crime to go do that.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
But I've only heard of like shoes being stolen off
a porch, like because you're just jacking with somebody.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Well that was that's what the new thing is. It's like, okay,
so what was his motive is? Does he have a
shoe fetish? Or was he just doing it to see
how long he could get away with it? But apparently
the house that you saw, the police said the house
was so full of bed bugs the house was actually
condemned and he wasn't supposed to be living there anymore.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
So this guy's a real not rule follower.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
But he I mean, think about it. Maybe when he
was I don't never been on jail, knock on wood,
but do you I assume maybe he didn't have his
bills set up auto like automation.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
While he was in jail.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
I thought that was a whole other way to pay
that I wasn't familiar with.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
But I'll be honest. You still for your water bill
and your gas bill in Ashland you have to physically
go down to the gas company and drop off your
monthly check for God's yes, everything everything.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Like ris yes government, Sure do take a bite, don't you?
Speaker 1 (10:51):
All right? You ready walk over and pay water? Al alright,
I'll see in August.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Isn't that ridiculous?
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Well, hey, Christman to say, I'm just here paying my water. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Oh wait, I oh, oh my god.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
How many times has that uttered?
Speaker 1 (11:12):
I got change hold on the back down to pay
my cable cable. Well, somebody got to pay for them
ears upon the upon the roof.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
There you go, y'all.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Dear God.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
So, I mean, maybe that's why he his house was
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
But what did they do with the shoes?
Speaker 4 (11:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
If they like, say, hey, come pick up your missing shoes.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Everyone, I would go get my shoes.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Back or donate them or burn them.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Yeah, if there's burns in the house, some of them
you can't.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
There's in one pair.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
But if he stacked them in the toats.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
I can't even recycle those.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
No, you probably have to burn them. You probably have
to burn them. Would want my shoes back?
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Where are you guys on bonfires?
Speaker 1 (12:05):
All good?
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Yeah, Hey, Kristen, I'll see the bonfire.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Just gotta pay my water bills, you know, so we
can put it out and whatnot.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
You're talking like that other town.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Oh the yeah, could you imagine?
Speaker 1 (12:29):
All right, you have a job. You have to keep
up to date on what's going on with the Shoe Band.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Don't worry. My mom text me what late last week
or over the weekend.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
She's like, did you see they're talking about us in
the city.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Did you see they caught the bandit?
Speaker 4 (12:41):
I said, in town, in town, talking about.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
In the big city, Washington
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Pors My mom says, Washington, what's the what's the dumb
town