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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I needed somebody who's been down one of those emergency slides.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Hi, Elliot the morning.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hey, Elly, let's go on an airplane. I should say,
I am doing great.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Who is this, Mike?
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Yes, Mike, you've been down an emergency slide on a plane.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Yeah. When I was six years old, we were on
a family vacation in Hawaii and we rode on Alha
Airlines flight where the fuselage ripped apart.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
And we had a flight two forty three. It should
be all over the internet in nineteen eighty eight.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
And so when how did you so walk me through
getting off the plane using a slide?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I'm not familiar with what happened.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Uh, well, the plane had an explosive d compression and
the front half of the plane, the whole like roof,
ripped off in midair.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Oh my god, Oh my god, Diane Tyler, can you
put that up on the on the big thing?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
You were on this plane?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I was six, me, my mom, my dad, and my brother.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Do you have do you have any memory of being
on the of being on the plane.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Uh, the extreme cold when it all happened. I have
minor frostbite on my face and on my arms, So
you didn't.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
Are you serious?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yeah? My dad lost his eyesight one in his right eye?
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Can I can I ask you something real quick? And
then I want to get back to that. Where where
was the forgive me? Where was the flight?
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Like?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Where were you flying from? In two.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Kilo International to Honolulu so we could head home from Honolulu?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Where's Helo? What is that?
Speaker 5 (01:49):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Where to go?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Sir?
Speaker 5 (01:51):
Are you there?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Hello?
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Oh god?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Did you lose your hearing.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
In that ear?
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Hello?
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Don't hang out here, let's hit mute. What is the
where is Heilo? Like?
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Where were you?
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Like?
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I understand that you were going to Honolulu? Where is
Where is Heilo Airport?
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Elo? Hawaii?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (02:12):
I think the big island?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Okay, so you were going from one Hawaiian island to
the other to Honolulu to fly home? And how like
I don't know how long a flight that is, but
how long were you flying with the top of the
plane ripped off?
Speaker 3 (02:28):
We got up I think it was like cruise altitude.
I was six, but we got up like thirty thousand.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
God.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
As soon as it happened, the pilots started heading down.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
So you said you got frostbite on your face? Your
dad lost vision in one of his.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Eyes, in his right eye due to the cold in
the velocity of the air.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
And what about was were you with anybody else on
the on the flight?
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Any other?
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Yeah, there is not like eighty or ninety of us.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Oh no, no, I meant from your family. Just from
your family.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
No.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
My mother and my sister were sitting on the opposite
side of me and my dad, and my mother just
hurtled over my sister and they kind of curled up
in a ball together, and my dad tried with me.
But I was six and wanted to see what was
going on.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Wow, I mean the looking at the I've never heard
of this incident, and I'm looking at the I'm looking
at the pictures and video right now.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Did anybody fly out of the plane?
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Flight attendant was lost? At see? They never found your body? Wow? Okay,
but there were I think sixty injuries.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
And when you guys landed in Honolulu, they you had
to exit off of the conveyor not the conveyor belt,
I'm sorry, the inflatable raft or slide.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
They emergency landed in Maui. We never made it to Honolulu, gotcha. Yeah,
they deployed the rear slides for us because they didn't
want us coming out of their front door. Only if
the pilots came out of the front door. They were
we were afraid the fuselage is going to break apart
and give us a walgames for.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
The explosive decompression. Is this something that has been seen
in other air disasters before? Is it known for a
lot of.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Not of that that explosiveness, but it has happened.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
What is I don't even know what it had that?
Speaker 5 (04:37):
What?
Speaker 2 (04:38):
What?
Speaker 1 (04:38):
What is explosive decompression? I don't even know what that is.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
When I'm playing, I guess playing their steeled like a submarine,
and if they get a leak, depending on the leap,
they can either just decompressed or they can have explosive decompression.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
There's something fun to think about.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Remember I was in the airport, I was all horny
with sexual tension, and I got on the plane and
then this happened.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
The horse is likened to a bomb debtonation.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
The fuselage of the plane looks like a bomb went off. Well,
so I was now asking about asking about going down
the slide kind of hello, hello.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Hello, yeah talk.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Oh yeah, well Tom, hush the so you made it
to the back and then everybody went down the slide.
But I mean, like that's a real emergency.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Are you saying the one in Denver didn't look like
a real emergency.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
No, no, this is not this is not going to
compare it to not at all. But the whole top
of the plane ripped off. Yeah no, but I was
gonna say, like the and you may be the wrong
person asked. So the in in in Denver over the weekend,
they landed and everybody, well, they aborted takeoff. They didn't
even land, they aborted takeoff, and everybody was told they
(05:57):
had to use the emergency slide to evacuum the plane,
and a lot of people went down. They grabbed their
they grabbed their carry ons, and they went down with
their carry ons, and people were pissed, like like people
online are ripping everybody apart.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
But all I really wanted to ask is do they.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Tell you when like you're on the you're on the
runway and you're getting ready to exit, don't grab your bags,
don't grab your bags.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Don't grab your bags.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Oh yeah, they I mean that's why I'm playing a
lot still and on the safety briefings. They all videos
and all that they say, leave all pushing the belonging behind.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
But that's easy to say when everybody is also thinking
about like am I going to get a cocktail?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Am I going to?
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Like I'm not, I don't pay attention to this video.
And so what I'm wondering is is when that when?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
The when? When it when it really is time to
have to use the slide?
Speaker 1 (06:53):
And again, I wasn't expecting the guy who's done it
to have been on a plane that exploded in mid air.
Although I'm thrilled to talk to you. Do they do
they just repeat that because like the people coming down
in Denver, I could see you just get up and
you just grab your bag and you go.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
You haven't even gone anywhere yet.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
And I know that, I know that they say during
the thing, like you know, the flo it'll you know
also as a flotation device and you know, don't take that.
And again I think if it were in the water. Hey,
by the way, just back to you for a second.
Do you do your parents and your like your family?
Does it do you guys still discuss it or no?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
The incident?
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Oh yeah, we still talk about it.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
Did you get anything from Aloha Airlines compensation.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
We got a flight voucher.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Oh god, that's pathetic.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Are you serious?
Speaker 3 (07:51):
In nineteen eighty eight, my dad sued from medical coverage
and all that he won.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
Good.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Oh, so he got a couple hundred million.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
I don't think it was that much, but I'm off
to where he was okay with everything?
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Good, all right, dude, I appreciate it, Thank you, sir,
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
I didn't realize this. So the Vampire Weekend record Only
God Was Above Us is named after a daily news
article about the accident.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Are you serious?
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Wow?
Speaker 5 (08:24):
And at Honolulu International Airport they have a garden named
in honor of Clara Belle Lansing that flight at time
I got sucked to see.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Yeah wow, it really does make the nineteen eighty eight.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
I was also six then too, so I have no.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
I have no memory of it.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
You don't like these images aren't bringing back now?
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Not at all.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
I can't even imagine.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
The only thing that I think of it, I know
it's not what is what is their plane on the
cover of Licensed to ill? Isn't there an airplane on
that cover? But that's not It's not like two forty three.
Speaker 6 (09:08):
Yeah, I don't think that that was definitely not the
number that was depicted on that graphic.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
And wouldn't that have been before Oh, that's eighty six.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Wasn't it eighty five? Eighty six?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
What licensed to ill?
Speaker 5 (09:20):
Yeah, and this is eighty eight.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Think of how apprecient they would have been.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
It's like when Hulk Hogan used to say that Elvis
Presley was a huge fan. Elvis died before Hogan started
training anyway.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Anyway, Yeah, in the moment, is it easy to not
remember don't bring your stuff, like they can't stop you
on the plane.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
But again, like a moment like yesterday or over the weekend,
or a moment like this in nineteen.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
No, a moment like over the weekend sucked out of
the plane. Yes, the whole roof got ripped off the plane.
Speaker 6 (10:01):
Sure, when that guy was grabbing his wheelie bag and
was like walking out, like waving his kid up and down,
and the slightest tents are probably going drop your bag,
drop your bag, but he had no intention.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Of doing that.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
If you don't, is there a Polish penalty.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Yes, And they said those slides aren't gonna rip from
your bag.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
They said they are built in design.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
It's the time saving thing.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
It's time saving, you know what they're mostly afraid of. Yes,
it's a time suck. But they're also afraid of injury
from the bag. Yeah, so you jump, the bag bounces
and clocks you in the head, or you get to
the bottom and you saw it. One of the people
started to try to run but fell over the bag.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Yeah, that's what they're afraid of.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
But even though you do hear about it and the
instructions ahead of the flight and the safety tutorials, and
I do mention it every single time, in the event
of emergency, leave all of your belongings. Is it different
when you're actually in that urgency?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Exactly?
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Like I have always said, if my computer backpack is
with me, I am. I don't care what they say,
But in the moment, would I in the moment, would
I not be that guy?
Speaker 4 (11:12):
You're absolutely that guy.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
What if you're like, it was a water land Okay,
that's different. That's different.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Elliott swimming with.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Water.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
Elliott didn't his seat device, He's trying to use his backpack. No,
that's that's a different that's a different case.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
So when water landing.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Come on, when you're using these s I got my computer,
I can't get it wet.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
That's different.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
By the way, if I'm going down a water slide,
a slide into the water, I already know I'm not living.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
What where am I sliding off of the plane.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Even the only water incident we've seen is Sully Solid Burger,
and they.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Stood on the wing. Nobody went sliding into the water.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Truthfully, Sully should have just made a U turn and
we would have been fine.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
But no, everybody stood on the wing.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
When's the last time anybody went down a slide into
the water.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
It's part of the never demonstration. But did people also
not think that this was maybe, oh god, that face
planet hurt?
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (12:23):
Yeah, Well did people Yes, there is a fire that
you can see in the background, But did people not
think it was as big a deal significant as like
what the caller went through.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Okay, that can't be the barometer what the caller went through. Again,
at thirty thousand feet the roof opened up.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
So you need something in the middle here.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
I also think it's because the plane never took off.
And I think whether it is just a natural reaction
or a we are gonna get bumped around and moved around.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
I'm getting my.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Bag this before. But that's what I was going to say.
Can they stop you in the plane.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
And say put your bag down?
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Yeah, I mean that's a I would never put a
flight attendant in that position.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
Sounds like you definitely would.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
No, you're clutching your computer bag. Oh my god, that guy.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
It's a parachute. It's a parachute.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
No, no, I or would I not be that guy?
Like what I when when push came to show. But
I not grabbed my computer. I wouldn't grab my roll
on bat well. O, my favorite shorts are in there.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
Now you have two pieces of luggends.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
No carry something personal carry Diane, hold this, but but mine?
Speaker 1 (13:48):
No, just hold this, Diane. You're right, don't take your bag.
Don't take your bag. Carry this.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
Oh, you're definitely taking it. Because you've also seen how
long it takes for them to release when there's investigations,
release the contents of the plane back to passengers. And
it's not quick now.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
And and you know what, I did nothing to deserve that.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Well, it was emergencies happened. This wasn't planned.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
I understand that.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
And I am so thankful that all of us are okay,
I need my bag?
Speaker 5 (14:20):
Okay, standing, I sneed my bag.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
We were your.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
Foot this was a show trip and we were standing
on the tarmac and Elliott saw other people who took
their stuff like a kid.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Would be trying to scamper.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
Absolutely, he would be so insufferable.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
No, I would be testing anybody on the plane. Grab
my bag, grab my bag.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Well, I'm just going to go buy a new laptop.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
I'll get my cloud.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Show you.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Well, you know what they ought to do, especially for
that one.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Have somebody who stays on the plane and just trucks
bags because that's safe.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
That's how they load the planes. Yeah, it's recommend Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
No, I would it would bob, it would bother.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
There is not now a how extreme enough emotion?
Speaker 1 (15:06):
How insufferable would I have been on the wing of
Sully's plane?
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Stupid? I'm going to miss dinner?
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Am I going to line too?
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Here we go?
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Hi, Ellie of the morning?
Speaker 5 (15:19):
Hey there, Hi, who's this? How are you good?
Speaker 7 (15:22):
Uh? It's a person Okay, Hey listen, I wasn't flying
out BWY on the old un or TWA Airlines. Oh sure,
And I'm and I'm sitting there and looking out I
was in front of the engine and I'm looking like
there's a lot of mail they're loading onto this plane.
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So choking around with the person next to me, I'm like, you, guys,
you better pay attention to this.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (15:51):
You know the the safety drills that they give you
and uh. And we're reading it with her and you know,
laughing trying on. Next thing, you know, the plane takes off,
the wheel explodes, goes into the engine and starts an
engine on fire. The nose was in the air. Nott
ready to take off. All this is carrying on, and
(16:12):
he made the last minute decision do you lower the plane,
get and get.
Speaker 6 (16:17):
Us to a halt.
Speaker 7 (16:17):
We all slammed in the front of everybody, slammed the
chair in front of them. Smoke was still in the air,
and there we go. Everyone get off the plane right
away went down. I went down the chute. Man, people,
we were just failing at that shoot. I mean, they're
trying to tell us kick your feet out, so you
kick your feet out, have your butt land on the chute,
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and go right down the chute. Lady in front of
me totally did it. I was just like, what's in
hell is going on? Smoke everywhere people are like.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Clumb on, comb down the shoe.
Speaker 7 (16:52):
It's like such a surreal moment.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
Hey, did anybody grab their did anybody grab their overhead?
Speaker 7 (16:59):
Yes they did. Some people had like, uh, their computers.
But like you had to leave everything, everything you and
you were we had to get away from the plane.
Luckily it didn't explode, you know, they got it under control.
But we all had to go into a separate area.
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So from now on, whenever I fly, I put on
those baggage claims on everything, even every single carry on,
every single carry on because of that. Because what happens
is you're you go to a place like the a
separate little you know, the where you pick up your
bags and everything, Like your purse. Your purse is thrown there.
If you lost a shoe, your shoe is thrown on there.
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Everything is thrown on there for you to come pick up.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Wait a minute, you carry your purse.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
No, huh, huh, you'll prime my phone from my hand,
because I'm not leaving my phone.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
On that my pocket that's in your pocket.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
First, go around my shoulder.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
No, you can't bring that that. By the way, that's
worse than me bringing my computer. It is my computer,
I can at least fire up and get us help
out here.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
What are you going to do? Find an ATM.
Speaker 7 (18:11):
But see if something happened and you have to leave
it before they on, before they get the plane off.
I mean, if you have to leave, if you have
a tag on it, they'll call you or you know,
like or let's say my purse, right, my purse is
shut and I have that claim tag on it. Then
you then they don't have to go through your purse.
I mean, you know, someone might go through and steal
your money or whatever it is. But if it's on
the outside at least, I'm like, oh, well, you know,
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let's just call her, you know.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
Or you know, so when you go on a plane,
you put a bag tag on your purse. That's what
she told us.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
There's the little paper ones that you see.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I thought she meant like on her roller bag.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (18:52):
Ever since that happened, dude, I put it on and
then my daughters are like, what do you do?
Speaker 6 (18:56):
And I go, uh.
Speaker 7 (18:57):
I don't want to freak them out, you know, like,
but I go out just to be safe, you know. Yeah,
It's like I put her on everything, every little thing.
Ever since that happened and I had to evacuate that plane.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Have you ever had Yeah, but you've only evacuated that once.
I mean, you're kind of like wasted time.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Because it takes hours to fill out your name and
a phone number.
Speaker 7 (19:18):
I do jump around though that, like, I think, you know,
if it happens twice, I think I'm I mean, I
think I'm pretty much safe, right right, Like I don't
think I think I'm good in the the airline gods
in the air I think.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
I've absolutely yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Wow, that's something.
Speaker 7 (19:33):
So anyway, I just we're been here with my other
daughter and listening to this. I go, hey, you know
I did this before.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
She's like, what Collin call all right?
Speaker 7 (19:44):
Good?
Speaker 2 (19:44):
I thought you were going to freak her out? Were you?
How long were you afraid to fly after that?
Speaker 5 (19:49):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (19:49):
Dude, I had to go the next day. So they
put us up and then it was some complete stranger.
But luckily she was like the same age. This was
a couple, you know, in my twenties, probably about three
years ago.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Haha.
Speaker 7 (20:01):
Anyway, I stayed with this complete stranger. But then they're like, okay,
you They've loaded us up the next day and then
they brought in a bunch of people, oh, the bunch
of pr people, and they're like, whatever you want, whatever
you want to drink, whatever you want to eat, let's talk.
Are you going to use their airline again? All this
I got hammered. I just like I was in my
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early twenties. I got hammered. I'm like, if I'm going
to do this again, I'm going to take advantage of it.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
All.
Speaker 7 (20:27):
So that's the only way I was able.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
To actually get through it.
Speaker 7 (20:29):
And then after that, like, like you said, now I
feel like I'm state, Yeah, I'm kind of I would think,
so now I'm kind of stay.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
So that night, though you had to stay, you just
roomed with some other random person on the plane randoh
total could you imagine? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:45):
And I would get into the hotel be like, we
don't have any of our suitcases or anything, so in
order to preserve our clothes, we should sleep naked.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
It's weird.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
That's weird.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
All right, Very good, very good. I appreciate it, Thank you, ma'am,
thank you.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
I think that's a pretty good thing to consider. Tagging everything.
I'll never do it, I know you won't. I don't
even tag my own like roller bag.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
Yes you do. Don't you have the silly Transformers thing
in there?
Speaker 2 (21:20):
No, I got bullied.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
I got bullied more often than not. Elliott's ripping the
gate check off his bag, still try to carry it off.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
No, mine's fine, they didn't tag it. Bring mine right?
Speaker 2 (21:36):
And then where? And as soon as I get on
the plane, where does my bag go?
Speaker 5 (21:39):
First class? Row one got nowhere to put their stuff,
But my stuff's up there.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
And when they say whose bag is this? How far
back are they going to walk and make that announcement?
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Not at all.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
I'm good
I needed somebody who's been down one of those emergency slides.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Hi, Elliot the morning.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hey, Elly, let's go on an airplane. I should say,
I am doing great.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Who is this, Mike?
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Yes, Mike, you've been down an emergency slide on a plane.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Yeah. When I was six years old, we were on
a family vacation in Hawaii and we rode on Alha
Airlines flight where the fuselage ripped apart.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
And we had a flight two forty three. It should
be all over the internet in nineteen eighty eight.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
And so when how did you so walk me through
getting off the plane using a slide?
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I'm not familiar with what happened.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Uh, well, the plane had an explosive d compression and
the front half of the plane, the whole like roof,
ripped off in midair.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Oh my god, Oh my god, Diane Tyler, can you
put that up on the on the big thing?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
You were on this plane?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I was six, me, my mom, my dad, and my brother.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Do you have do you have any memory of being
on the of being on the plane.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Uh, the extreme cold when it all happened. I have
minor frostbite on my face and on my arms, So
you didn't.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
Are you serious?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yeah? My dad lost his eyesight one in his right eye?
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Can I can I ask you something real quick? And
then I want to get back to that. Where where
was the forgive me? Where was the flight?
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Like?
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Where were you flying from? In two.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Kilo International to Honolulu so we could head home from Honolulu?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Where's Helo? What is that?
Speaker 5 (01:49):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Where to go?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Sir?
Speaker 5 (01:51):
Are you there?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Hello?
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Oh god?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Did you lose your hearing.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
In that ear?
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Hello?
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Don't hang out here, let's hit mute. What is the
where is Heilo? Like?
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Where were you?
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Like?
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I understand that you were going to Honolulu? Where is
Where is Heilo Airport?
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Elo? Hawaii?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (02:12):
I think the big island?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Okay, so you were going from one Hawaiian island to
the other to Honolulu to fly home? And how like
I don't know how long a flight that is, but
how long were you flying with the top of the
plane ripped off?
Speaker 3 (02:28):
We got up I think it was like cruise altitude.
I was six, but we got up like thirty thousand.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
God.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
As soon as it happened, the pilots started heading down.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
So you said you got frostbite on your face? Your
dad lost vision in one of his.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Eyes, in his right eye due to the cold in
the velocity of the air.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
And what about was were you with anybody else on
the on the flight?
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Any other?
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Yeah, there is not like eighty or ninety of us.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Oh no, no, I meant from your family. Just from
your family.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
No.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
My mother and my sister were sitting on the opposite
side of me and my dad, and my mother just
hurtled over my sister and they kind of curled up
in a ball together, and my dad tried with me.
But I was six and wanted to see what was
going on.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Wow, I mean the looking at the I've never heard
of this incident, and I'm looking at the I'm looking
at the pictures and video right now.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Did anybody fly out of the plane?
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Flight attendant was lost? At see? They never found your body? Wow? Okay,
but there were I think sixty injuries.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
And when you guys landed in Honolulu, they you had
to exit off of the conveyor not the conveyor belt,
I'm sorry, the inflatable raft or slide.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
They emergency landed in Maui. We never made it to Honolulu, gotcha. Yeah,
they deployed the rear slides for us because they didn't
want us coming out of their front door. Only if
the pilots came out of the front door. They were
we were afraid the fuselage is going to break apart
and give us a walgames for.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
The explosive decompression. Is this something that has been seen
in other air disasters before? Is it known for a
lot of.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Not of that that explosiveness, but it has happened.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
What is I don't even know what it had that?
Speaker 5 (04:37):
What?
Speaker 2 (04:38):
What?
Speaker 1 (04:38):
What is explosive decompression? I don't even know what that is.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
When I'm playing, I guess playing their steeled like a submarine,
and if they get a leak, depending on the leap,
they can either just decompressed or they can have explosive decompression.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
There's something fun to think about.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Remember I was in the airport, I was all horny
with sexual tension, and I got on the plane and
then this happened.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
The horse is likened to a bomb debtonation.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
The fuselage of the plane looks like a bomb went off. Well,
so I was now asking about asking about going down
the slide kind of hello, hello.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Hello, yeah talk.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Oh yeah, well Tom, hush the so you made it
to the back and then everybody went down the slide.
But I mean, like that's a real emergency.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Are you saying the one in Denver didn't look like
a real emergency.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
No, no, this is not this is not going to
compare it to not at all. But the whole top
of the plane ripped off. Yeah no, but I was
gonna say, like the and you may be the wrong
person asked. So the in in in Denver over the weekend,
they landed and everybody, well, they aborted takeoff. They didn't
even land, they aborted takeoff, and everybody was told they
(05:57):
had to use the emergency slide to evacuum the plane,
and a lot of people went down. They grabbed their
they grabbed their carry ons, and they went down with
their carry ons, and people were pissed, like like people
online are ripping everybody apart.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
But all I really wanted to ask is do they.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Tell you when like you're on the you're on the
runway and you're getting ready to exit, don't grab your bags,
don't grab your bags.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Don't grab your bags.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Oh yeah, they I mean that's why I'm playing a
lot still and on the safety briefings. They all videos
and all that they say, leave all pushing the belonging behind.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
But that's easy to say when everybody is also thinking
about like am I going to get a cocktail?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Am I going to?
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Like I'm not, I don't pay attention to this video.
And so what I'm wondering is is when that when?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
The when? When it when it really is time to
have to use the slide?
Speaker 1 (06:53):
And again, I wasn't expecting the guy who's done it
to have been on a plane that exploded in mid air.
Although I'm thrilled to talk to you. Do they do
they just repeat that because like the people coming down
in Denver, I could see you just get up and
you just grab your bag and you go.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
You haven't even gone anywhere yet.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
And I know that, I know that they say during
the thing, like you know, the flo it'll you know
also as a flotation device and you know, don't take that.
And again I think if it were in the water. Hey,
by the way, just back to you for a second.
Do you do your parents and your like your family?
Does it do you guys still discuss it or no?
Speaker 2 (07:39):
The incident?
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Oh yeah, we still talk about it.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
Did you get anything from Aloha Airlines compensation.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
We got a flight voucher.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Oh god, that's pathetic.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Are you serious?
Speaker 3 (07:51):
In nineteen eighty eight, my dad sued from medical coverage
and all that he won.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
Good.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Oh, so he got a couple hundred million.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
I don't think it was that much, but I'm off
to where he was okay with everything?
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Good, all right, dude, I appreciate it, Thank you, sir,
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
I didn't realize this. So the Vampire Weekend record Only
God Was Above Us is named after a daily news
article about the accident.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Are you serious?
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Wow?
Speaker 5 (08:24):
And at Honolulu International Airport they have a garden named
in honor of Clara Belle Lansing that flight at time
I got sucked to see.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Yeah wow, it really does make the nineteen eighty eight.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
I was also six then too, so I have no.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
I have no memory of it.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
You don't like these images aren't bringing back now?
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Not at all.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
I can't even imagine.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
The only thing that I think of it, I know
it's not what is what is their plane on the
cover of Licensed to ill? Isn't there an airplane on
that cover? But that's not It's not like two forty three.
Speaker 6 (09:08):
Yeah, I don't think that that was definitely not the
number that was depicted on that graphic.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
And wouldn't that have been before Oh, that's eighty six.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Wasn't it eighty five? Eighty six?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
What licensed to ill?
Speaker 5 (09:20):
Yeah, and this is eighty eight.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Think of how apprecient they would have been.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
It's like when Hulk Hogan used to say that Elvis
Presley was a huge fan. Elvis died before Hogan started
training anyway.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Anyway, Yeah, in the moment, is it easy to not
remember don't bring your stuff, like they can't stop you
on the plane.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
But again, like a moment like yesterday or over the weekend,
or a moment like this in nineteen.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
No, a moment like over the weekend sucked out of
the plane. Yes, the whole roof got ripped off the plane.
Speaker 6 (10:01):
Sure, when that guy was grabbing his wheelie bag and
was like walking out, like waving his kid up and down,
and the slightest tents are probably going drop your bag,
drop your bag, but he had no intention.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Of doing that.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
If you don't, is there a Polish penalty.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Yes, And they said those slides aren't gonna rip from
your bag.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
They said they are built in design.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
It's the time saving thing.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
It's time saving, you know what they're mostly afraid of. Yes,
it's a time suck. But they're also afraid of injury
from the bag. Yeah, so you jump, the bag bounces
and clocks you in the head, or you get to
the bottom and you saw it. One of the people
started to try to run but fell over the bag.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Yeah, that's what they're afraid of.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
But even though you do hear about it and the
instructions ahead of the flight and the safety tutorials, and
I do mention it every single time, in the event
of emergency, leave all of your belongings. Is it different
when you're actually in that urgency?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Exactly?
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Like I have always said, if my computer backpack is
with me, I am. I don't care what they say,
But in the moment, would I in the moment, would
I not be that guy?
Speaker 4 (11:12):
You're absolutely that guy.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
What if you're like, it was a water land Okay,
that's different. That's different.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Elliott swimming with.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Water.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
Elliott didn't his seat device, He's trying to use his backpack. No,
that's that's a different that's a different case.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
So when water landing.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Come on, when you're using these s I got my computer,
I can't get it wet.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
That's different.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
By the way, if I'm going down a water slide,
a slide into the water, I already know I'm not living.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
What where am I sliding off of the plane.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Even the only water incident we've seen is Sully Solid Burger,
and they.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Stood on the wing. Nobody went sliding into the water.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Truthfully, Sully should have just made a U turn and
we would have been fine.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
But no, everybody stood on the wing.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
When's the last time anybody went down a slide into
the water.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
It's part of the never demonstration. But did people also
not think that this was maybe, oh god, that face
planet hurt?
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (12:23):
Yeah, Well did people Yes, there is a fire that
you can see in the background, But did people not
think it was as big a deal significant as like
what the caller went through.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Okay, that can't be the barometer what the caller went through. Again,
at thirty thousand feet the roof opened up.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
So you need something in the middle here.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
I also think it's because the plane never took off.
And I think whether it is just a natural reaction
or a we are gonna get bumped around and moved around.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
I'm getting my.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Bag this before. But that's what I was going to say.
Can they stop you in the plane.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
And say put your bag down?
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Yeah, I mean that's a I would never put a
flight attendant in that position.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
Sounds like you definitely would.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
No, you're clutching your computer bag. Oh my god, that guy.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
It's a parachute. It's a parachute.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
No, no, I or would I not be that guy?
Like what I when when push came to show. But
I not grabbed my computer. I wouldn't grab my roll
on bat well. O, my favorite shorts are in there.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
Now you have two pieces of luggends.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
No carry something personal carry Diane, hold this, but but mine?
Speaker 1 (13:48):
No, just hold this, Diane. You're right, don't take your bag.
Don't take your bag. Carry this.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
Oh, you're definitely taking it. Because you've also seen how
long it takes for them to release when there's investigations,
release the contents of the plane back to passengers. And
it's not quick now.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
And and you know what, I did nothing to deserve that.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Well, it was emergencies happened. This wasn't planned.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
I understand that.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
And I am so thankful that all of us are okay,
I need my bag?
Speaker 5 (14:20):
Okay, standing, I sneed my bag.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
We were your.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
Foot this was a show trip and we were standing
on the tarmac and Elliott saw other people who took
their stuff like a kid.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Would be trying to scamper.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
Absolutely, he would be so insufferable.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
No, I would be testing anybody on the plane. Grab
my bag, grab my bag.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Well, I'm just going to go buy a new laptop.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
I'll get my cloud.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Show you.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Well, you know what they ought to do, especially for
that one.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Have somebody who stays on the plane and just trucks
bags because that's safe.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
That's how they load the planes. Yeah, it's recommend Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
No, I would it would bob, it would bother.
Speaker 5 (15:01):
There is not now a how extreme enough emotion?
Speaker 1 (15:06):
How insufferable would I have been on the wing of
Sully's plane?
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Stupid? I'm going to miss dinner?
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Am I going to line too?
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Here we go?
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Hi, Ellie of the morning?
Speaker 5 (15:19):
Hey there, Hi, who's this? How are you good?
Speaker 7 (15:22):
Uh? It's a person Okay, Hey listen, I wasn't flying
out BWY on the old un or TWA Airlines. Oh sure,
And I'm and I'm sitting there and looking out I
was in front of the engine and I'm looking like
there's a lot of mail they're loading onto this plane.
(15:46):
So choking around with the person next to me, I'm like, you, guys,
you better pay attention to this.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (15:51):
You know the the safety drills that they give you
and uh. And we're reading it with her and you know,
laughing trying on. Next thing, you know, the plane takes off,
the wheel explodes, goes into the engine and starts an
engine on fire. The nose was in the air. Nott
ready to take off. All this is carrying on, and
(16:12):
he made the last minute decision do you lower the plane,
get and get.
Speaker 6 (16:17):
Us to a halt.
Speaker 7 (16:17):
We all slammed in the front of everybody, slammed the
chair in front of them. Smoke was still in the air,
and there we go. Everyone get off the plane right
away went down. I went down the chute. Man, people,
we were just failing at that shoot. I mean, they're
trying to tell us kick your feet out, so you
kick your feet out, have your butt land on the chute,
(16:39):
and go right down the chute. Lady in front of
me totally did it. I was just like, what's in
hell is going on? Smoke everywhere people are like.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Clumb on, comb down the shoe.
Speaker 7 (16:52):
It's like such a surreal moment.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
Hey, did anybody grab their did anybody grab their overhead?
Speaker 7 (16:59):
Yes they did. Some people had like, uh, their computers.
But like you had to leave everything, everything you and
you were we had to get away from the plane.
Luckily it didn't explode, you know, they got it under control.
But we all had to go into a separate area.
(17:19):
So from now on, whenever I fly, I put on
those baggage claims on everything, even every single carry on,
every single carry on because of that. Because what happens
is you're you go to a place like the a
separate little you know, the where you pick up your
bags and everything, Like your purse. Your purse is thrown there.
If you lost a shoe, your shoe is thrown on there.
(17:42):
Everything is thrown on there for you to come pick up.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Wait a minute, you carry your purse.
Speaker 6 (17:48):
No, huh, huh, you'll prime my phone from my hand,
because I'm not leaving my phone.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
On that my pocket that's in your pocket.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
First, go around my shoulder.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
No, you can't bring that that. By the way, that's
worse than me bringing my computer. It is my computer,
I can at least fire up and get us help
out here.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
What are you going to do? Find an ATM.
Speaker 7 (18:11):
But see if something happened and you have to leave
it before they on, before they get the plane off.
I mean, if you have to leave, if you have
a tag on it, they'll call you or you know,
like or let's say my purse, right, my purse is
shut and I have that claim tag on it. Then
you then they don't have to go through your purse.
I mean, you know, someone might go through and steal
your money or whatever it is. But if it's on
the outside at least, I'm like, oh, well, you know,
(18:33):
let's just call her, you know.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
Or you know, so when you go on a plane,
you put a bag tag on your purse. That's what
she told us.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
There's the little paper ones that you see.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I thought she meant like on her roller bag.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (18:52):
Ever since that happened, dude, I put it on and
then my daughters are like, what do you do?
Speaker 6 (18:56):
And I go, uh.
Speaker 7 (18:57):
I don't want to freak them out, you know, like,
but I go out just to be safe, you know. Yeah,
It's like I put her on everything, every little thing.
Ever since that happened and I had to evacuate that plane.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Have you ever had Yeah, but you've only evacuated that once.
I mean, you're kind of like wasted time.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Because it takes hours to fill out your name and
a phone number.
Speaker 7 (19:18):
I do jump around though that, like, I think, you know,
if it happens twice, I think I'm I mean, I
think I'm pretty much safe, right right, Like I don't
think I think I'm good in the the airline gods
in the air I think.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
I've absolutely yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Wow, that's something.
Speaker 7 (19:33):
So anyway, I just we're been here with my other
daughter and listening to this. I go, hey, you know
I did this before.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
She's like, what Collin call all right?
Speaker 7 (19:44):
Good?
Speaker 2 (19:44):
I thought you were going to freak her out? Were you?
How long were you afraid to fly after that?
Speaker 5 (19:49):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (19:49):
Dude, I had to go the next day. So they
put us up and then it was some complete stranger.
But luckily she was like the same age. This was
a couple, you know, in my twenties, probably about three
years ago.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Haha.
Speaker 7 (20:01):
Anyway, I stayed with this complete stranger. But then they're like, okay,
you They've loaded us up the next day and then
they brought in a bunch of people, oh, the bunch
of pr people, and they're like, whatever you want, whatever
you want to drink, whatever you want to eat, let's talk.
Are you going to use their airline again? All this
I got hammered. I just like I was in my
(20:21):
early twenties. I got hammered. I'm like, if I'm going
to do this again, I'm going to take advantage of it.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
All.
Speaker 7 (20:27):
So that's the only way I was able.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
To actually get through it.
Speaker 7 (20:29):
And then after that, like, like you said, now I
feel like I'm state, Yeah, I'm kind of I would think,
so now I'm kind of stay.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
So that night, though you had to stay, you just
roomed with some other random person on the plane randoh
total could you imagine? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:45):
And I would get into the hotel be like, we
don't have any of our suitcases or anything, so in
order to preserve our clothes, we should sleep naked.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
It's weird.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
That's weird.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
All right, Very good, very good. I appreciate it, Thank you, ma'am,
thank you.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
I think that's a pretty good thing to consider. Tagging everything.
I'll never do it, I know you won't. I don't
even tag my own like roller bag.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
Yes you do. Don't you have the silly Transformers thing
in there?
Speaker 2 (21:20):
No, I got bullied.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
I got bullied more often than not. Elliott's ripping the
gate check off his bag, still try to carry it off.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
No, mine's fine, they didn't tag it. Bring mine right?
Speaker 2 (21:36):
And then where? And as soon as I get on
the plane, where does my bag go?
Speaker 5 (21:39):
First class? Row one got nowhere to put their stuff,
But my stuff's up there.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
And when they say whose bag is this? How far
back are they going to walk and make that announcement?
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Not at all.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
I'm good
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