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Brought with that, we're gonna break down all the players
who went in the first round their fantasy relevant will
tell you what we think about the landing spots, and
now that we know the actual landing spots, what we
think about these landing spots the fantasy value for these players.
And the guy that we probably need to spend the
least amount of time with is cam Ward, who ended
up going first thought. He goes to Tennessee as expected,
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but we're kind of luke on his fantasy value.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Don't love it, don't love the landing spot. And I
think cam Ord's a little bit further away than public
discourse around him suggests it's a guy that turns the
ball over. There's some issues there seeing in the field,
some decision making things, and they're obviously intending to throw
him out right away. That he has been a volked
to Pat Mahomes by some during this pre draft process.
Not as good as Pat Mahomes Norris talented, but also
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keep in mind Pat Mahomes a guy who had a
bunch of throws in air raid offenses in college, just
like cam ward did. Was afforded the opportunity to sit
for a year. Well he worked on some of the
things that he got nitpicked for at Texas Tech. Cam
Warden will be throwing out there right away, So that's
going to be interesting to see if hopefully he doesn't
pick up any bad habits. But yeah, not interested in him.
Fantasy year one, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (02:42):
Real quick redraft take going before cam Ordon is guys
like Sam Darnold, Gino Smith, Matthew Stafford. It seems like
a drafter before sovating cam Warden in that because Thori
said Ward's mobility, He's not elite, he's good and we
need we need elite mobility.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Yeah, he'll go to the pocket every now and again.
But yeah, it's you know, kind of like Pat Mahomes,
but it's it's no, but he's not tucking and running
a whole bunch.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Yeah, not a lot of design runs coming for Camp.
Speaker 6 (03:12):
Right, So, and Tyler Lockett, the signing of Tyler Lockett
does not.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
I don't think. I don't think it does. I think
he's going to be go off the board quarterback twenty eight,
twenty nine for me. Yeah, I'll have him ranked somewhere
somewhere in that ballpark probably. All right, let's go to
let's go to the second pick. That's the Colorado wide receiver,
Travis Hunter, slash corner back. He ends up going to Jacksonville,
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not the landing spot that I think most of us expected,
but Jacksonville helping fantasy owners, Liam Cohen says they're going
to play him as a wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
First. Yeah, Liam Cohen was looking for a toy and
he got one that we couldn't have expected in advance.
Just shocking that Andrew Berry and the Browns bailed out
of that slot and allowed Jacksonville to move up here.
They're a new administration, the new coaching staff. Obviously they
made a big up here for Travis Hunter. I love
that move by them and Travis Hunter. Great fit there.
Lee one he said after the first round on Thursday
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night that they see Travis Hunter as a wide receiver first.
So that's what sort of is going to be led
by the foot. And on a previous episode of Fantasy
Football Weekly, I had mentioned my situational assumption that Travis
Hunting play eighty eighty five percent defense as a rookie
forty to forty five at wide receiver. I think maybe
now you flip that after what you heard Lee and
Cohen say. Travis Hunter has been getting criminally slept on
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Dynasty Community, Fantasy Community over the offseason. To this point,
you guys need to elevate where he is going into
your draft. That guy is going to make an impact
playing next to Brian Thomas, and he's going to put
up stats immediately.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
When you hear that that Travis Hunter is going to
play eighty percent of the snaps, remember that twenty percent
are largely run plays. Yeah, that wouldn't matter anyway.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
He does not need to be on the fiel when
the ball is on the ground, but when it is
in the air on either side of the ball, Travis
Hunter needs to be out there.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
I got a text from Colin mccochney.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
It was exciting.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
Yeah, I bet Travis Hunter play over in London Town.
Hunter and Cockney rhyming slang is a bit.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Of a lady. That's what hunters are there.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Who knew, Yeah, Colin, he actually rhymes with something you
guys didn't know. But Colin McCartney, he did call me
last night and yeah, and in his SCOUTI report, basically
I can sum it up. He called him a hunter,
a contested catch virtuo, so do the voice. He called
him a downfield assassin. And he told me you went
eleven for eighteen and contested situations last year. And then
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also he had a perfect ninety nine point nine pff
great on balls, throwing twenty plus yards downfield. Absolute killer downfield.
That's what Colin love most about it.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
Your translation of Colin mccochney is much better than both
Brian Johnson and.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
I've gotten much better over the years.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yeah, you've learned to translate. Hunter's going to be electrifying.
He'll be a downfield threat and Brian Thomas is just
going to roam in the middle of the field. It's
gonna be a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Travis Hunter's gonna help out Brian Thomas, right. I mean,
now you can't shade the coverage over there comfortably and
then leave Travis Hunter alone. He will beat you at
any sector of the field.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
The last wide receiver to get drafted as high as
second overall as Calvin Johnson. Not saying Travis Hunter is
going to be the next Calvin Johnson, but Travis Hunter
been going in the sixth seventh rounds of redrafts, should
be going. He'll be moving up in the second round.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
I bet Calvin Johnson is not the cornerback that Travis
Hunter he could have been.
Speaker 6 (06:23):
I probably, I bet he.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Could have been too yead Lions held him back, as
it turned out.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
That's why he retired. He wanted to play corner Yeah,
so tired of being the best wide receiver in the world.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Trevor Lawrence is going to be an interesting sleeper too.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Sure.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
All right, let's go to the third fantasy player take
In sixth overall, Las Vegas ended up getting the guy
that we had primarily pegged them to get, and that's
Aston Genty, who is going to go in the first
round of fantasy redrafts. Break him down a little bit
and tell me if you like this landing spot for him.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
This is a generational running back prospect who has now
gone to an ideal spot, right, a head coach who
has a history keeping the ball on the ground. Marshawn
Lencher voked with Pete Carroll going back to his USC days. Obviously,
the ground game been very important there. Chip Kelly likes
to keep the ball on the ground. Last year at
Ohio State, obviously he had the two stud running backs
that we're going to see taken on Friday night, So
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very good landing spot. He will be the bellcou They
didn't have anything else there. If you're going to see
all kinds of carries for him, you're also going to
see him utilized as a wide receiver a lot more
than he did last year. That's when Boise State funneled
his touches into the rushing. Yeah, you're going to see
the receiving stuff again. That Ashton Genty, as a junior
in high school was a starting slot receiver. Took over
for Marvin Mims at Frisco High before amazing. Yeah, before
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then Genty switched back to running back, But we saw
a lot of slot receiver stuff with him at twenty
twenty three at Boise State. Very very good receiver. You're
going to see a lot more of that this coming season.
But Ashton Genty, he cannot last too long in your
read draft leagues before you gotta pop them.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
All right, So let's let's go around the room. Since
we got everybody here, tell me which pick I presume
in the first round you would use on Ashon Genty
as of today redraft, so not dynasty. Where's he's clearly
going to go first overall redraft? Where are you taking
him in the first round? Let's start with Scott Fish.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Yeah, we were talking earlier and I thought it'd be
later in the first round. But apparently my where I
think the market is is dead wrong. And being a
guy who almost went to Boise State loves Boise State,
loves his love Genty for a long time, I guess,
I'm yep, I guess, I'm I guess. I got to
reach into the upper half of the first round.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Okay, so you're you're somewhere like five on one. One
on one is the very upper that would be the
very upper part of the first round. So you laughed,
But would you take him first? Because he's going to
be in the conversation for first overall.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
If he's in that conversation, which by the time I'm
drafting in our redraft leagues, which mostly later in the year,
I am a team, go get your guys and have
fun playing fantasy. So I wouldn't have a problem with it.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
I guess, okay, man.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
That's what I got to do. That's what I gotta do.
Gentalize he was that high in people's minds.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Ash and Genty, Where would you take him?
Speaker 5 (08:59):
I mean consider hearing what we were looking at with
like last year's ADP where it was McCaffrey, it was Hill,
it was Lamb, it was Jefferson, it was Bijon. None
of those guys are going to be in the conversation
for top five this year. I don't think. I think
that there's a pretty good chance that he's a top
three pick in any given league.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
All right, thor Redraft top traction three, Yeah, I'm top
three as well. I think only Saquon and Jamar Chase
Yeah are to me? Are the are they?
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Even if the first pick? I would definitely consider genty, Yeah, Brian.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
It's between Jamar Chase er Gent I would even I
would take him over Barkley. I think we saw Barkley
top healing last year. Yeah, and you gotta pay the
premium now on Barkley. Barkley was at a discount last year,
so I'll take the unknown in gent but it seems
like we all know he's going to be a baller.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
Well, we have two Las Vegas Raiders going in the
first round of drafts with brock.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Bauer DPR absolutely, yeah, yeah, Bowers or tight end premium. Obviously,
I'm taking Bowers over BTJ now now that they drafted
Travis Hunter in PPR.
Speaker 6 (10:03):
All right, yeah, yeah, that's going a few picks ahead
of BOWERSTJ is but give me Bowers now.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
The earliest I think anybody expected Teed McMillan to be
drafted is where he landed, which is the Carolina Panthers,
who needed to fortify the wide receiver position. They had
Adam Field, who was great when he played, but obviously
at the very end of his career. They've put a
lot of draft equity into wide receiver lately, but they
haven't gotten a return on that. For how do you
like this landing spot for Tet McMillan.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
I really like it, just Now they finally have an
NFL caliber receiving core because McMillan becomes your wide receiver
one and everyone gets knocked down to the slot that
they were destined for. Right, Xavier Legat should be a
secondary receiver, Jalenkolker should be a sort of a tertiary guy,
and Adam Thielen can do his grizzled veteran mentor kind
of a thing. Yeah, Tep McMillan, this is what the
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doctor ordered for Bryce Young, Right, Tep McMillan. His his
profile early reminiscent of Drake London from a couple classes ago.
You have that big boundary receiver who can get downtown,
go up and get the ball killer downfield. He's also
better after the catch, and he gets credit for no
waste of motion converting from receiver to runner, very quick
acceleration as well when he turns up field. He's not
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a berserker. He's not gonna make anyone miss. So that's
why he doesn't get the credit for that area of
his game. But between that, that quick conversion, that acceleration
upfield he gets, he gets says, Yeah, let.
Speaker 6 (11:23):
Me pose a question to all you guys real quick,
Ted's gonna find himself right in this range of Jordan Addison,
DK Metcalf, Chris Godwin, Chris Olave and Ted. Who do
you want in that range? I'm feeling tet right now.
Out of those five Jordan Adison. Oh, I know I'm
talking much of Vikings Bobos, but come on.
Speaker 5 (11:42):
No, no, JJ McCarthy is gonna be a top five
quarterback this year, right?
Speaker 6 (11:47):
What was I think?
Speaker 5 (11:51):
Jordan Adison's been quarterback proof the last few years. He
had to endure Sam Darnold last time, even.
Speaker 6 (11:58):
With Sam dar Pro Bowl, Sam On Litle Bowler, Sam
donoald Toy quarterback in Laking Sistory.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Come back layer of the Year. Yeah, teed McMillan's body style.
If they choose to use him near the stripe, he
could be double digit touchdown guy.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Sure, Yeah, may style his weapons weapon in the red zone. Yeah,
that's that's what his special sauce is. Those contested catches
this class last season number one in that the year
before was number two. And he gets Nippick for not
creating separation against man coverage and not trying to write
like downtown. He wants to feel the guy around him
very again. Early reminiscent to t Higgins. But the point
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that I make about it, even though his separation rate
was exceeded, it was thirty thirty high thirty percentile against man.
He had one of the better separation rates against zone
or throws to him. The open rate on those ones
was near ninety five percent. Very very clever guy. The
cognitive tests that gave the wide receivers in the pre
draft process, Tech McMillan finished the highest. He didn't know
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what's the coverage? Look, he's getting really really quick, finds
the open grass, makes himself available of the quarterback.
Speaker 6 (13:00):
Underrated aspect of the entire Panthers passing game is that
their defense suck and they as.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
The highest corollarious defense to success is target targets, target percentage.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
And it'll be high. It'll be high, for sure. In
a mild surprise, maybe even moderate surprise, not so much.
The Chicago went tight end, which a number of people
suggested they would, but they didn't take Tyler Warren, who
was very widely viewed as the best available tight end.
But it was kind of a one two race and
they ended up going with Colston Loveland. What do you
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think about that landing? Spot for Loveland.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Pretty interesting decision from Chicago. What they're they're tipping off
to you is that they're going to go to a
twelve personnel offense, and that's how they're going to replace
their starting wide receiver. Who love Yeah, Keenan Allongn. So
that vacates the slot. Colton Loveland is your new slot
receiver there. That's he's a huge receiver, is essentially what
it is. Wins at all three levels of the field.
Runs a full wide receiver route tree, so you're going
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to get that. He does win on town, but he
also creates separation intermediate area and he has that huge
catch radius. He catches balls outside of his frame. Very
good hands. Colson lovelan very good player. I might have
been sleeping on a little bit pre draft. I talked
to one of his coaches in college recently, and that
guy told me that Colson Loveland is the best player
that I ever coached.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
And that's a Michigan coacht.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
That's a Mischigan that's saying a lot. Yeah that twenty
twenty two, I mean, there was four of the top
thirteen picks on Thursday night where Michigan Wolverines. That team
was absolutely nasty in twenty twenty three, and a guy
who was up there close thinks that Colston Loveland was
the best of the bunch.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
That's as plenty. Then the next fantasy player off the
board another ten end. So then we get Tyler Warren.
I think a lot of us, almost everybody, he'd expect
an Indianapolis would go tight end, but we didn't know
for sure if Warren would still be there. Many of
us had projected Warren to end up here anyway, and
that's that's where he goes.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Yeah, Indianapolis thinking they're lucky Stars, a team that had
telegraphed to us all pre draft process that they would
be targeting a in that slot, and Warren fortunately fortuitously
falls to them. They had to be sweating after Chicago
took level in at ten. Will Warren get down here?
But he did. Warren is going to be of great
use and great help to Anthony Richardson. If there is
anything to salvage there. Tyler Warren is being brought in
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to help salvage it. Anthony Richmond obviously great struggles with efficiency.
Then that's what Tyler Warren will help you with. You
get the ball to him within five yards of the
line of scrimmage. He does his berserker thing, breaking tackles.
He wears forty four because he grew up idolizing John
Riggins very much runs like him the game. There are
similar aspects to brock Bauers coming in terms of the
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touches that you manufacture for him, the different ways that
you can use him. It's just that he's bigger. He's
a couple of inches taller, he's thirty pounds heavier. But yeah,
and the other thing with the other point about Warren
is the thing of the wildcat quarterback stuff which will
manifest in the NFL in fantasy value because in short
yard situations or around the goal line, you just put
him out, snapped the ball to him, He's going to
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break the tackle and get past the line of scrimmage.
So this is the guy that I'm very interested in
fantasy right away, I don't quish Fish has a quick question.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
No, sure, yeah, yeah, I just wondered you're any question.
I wanted to know how does this affect Joloannie Woods?
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Hey, Hey, hey, hey, he's yeah my guy.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
He is on milk cartons around the Greater Indianapolis area.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
I think thirty one teams should trade for Johnny Woods. Yeah,
now see what it takes, free Jelowny Woods, free Jolannie. Absolutely,
just now he just needs a better landing spot.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
There's always room for Jiln the genre.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
I like that, The John Riggins thing, John Riggans thing,
I've heard that.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
What kind of show is that?
Speaker 1 (16:43):
I don't even know what you're talking about right now?
Speaker 6 (16:46):
They Loveland, Idol or Warren John Riggs. Yeah, John Riggins
retired before he was even born, like I heard, get
it's true. It was like his dad like forced him
to watch John Riggins highlights.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
That's like, rugs, Are you suggesting this was a Moronovich
situation and he's never had a Yeah, it's like, yeah,
something rubbed.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Off dynasty drafts. Which tight end would you take first?
Do you want new Bear Colston Loveland or do you
want new Colt Tyler Warren? Let's start with Scott again.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Yeah, I'm I think I'm going with Loveland in that
Ben Johnson offense with all those weapons and an ascending
offense over over Warren. Who I'm not sure Anthony Richardson
can can hit as big as.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
He is, all Right, Matt Loveland or Warren yes, Dynasty.
Speaker 5 (17:43):
Yes, I will take them.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Yes, both there.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
At the same time.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
I like them both.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Yeah, you copde Come on, we need an answer.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
You can't just say yes.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
He's making us choose.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
I chose Yes, Okay, I'll choose Loveland because better offense
equals better stats.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
More even in Dynasty, I play in a two three
year window. Two year window really, so yeah right right?
Speaker 6 (18:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Who's to say you're gonna be holding that guy three
four years from now? Anyone anybody on your roster today?
Speaker 6 (18:13):
All right?
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Thor for you Loveland or Warren Dynasty drafts.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
I also live like a quarter mile at a time.
Warren for sure, because Warren the manufacturer touch thing. It's
just like brock Bowers last year. You're going to a
crappy offense, but a crappy offense that intends to drive
offense by generating your touches immediately. And again I think
he's being brought in as the SOS for mister Anthony Richson.
So they're gonna get Warren the ball and he's gonna
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be the goal line guy around.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
Is it a crappy offense though? Like they have Jonathan Taylor, Yeah,
they have Michael Pittman. They have a couple of wide
receivers that are okay. The only problem is the quarterback, right.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
I hope Jonathan Taylor enjoyed the air of his career
where he got carries inside the three yard line. That
might be over. Wow.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
I'm Tim Warren too. My only disagreement is Daniel Jones
is the quarterback you're going to want on the Colts.
Grab him in the last round and let the fish
go Chase. This is this is this year.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
You don't know, you don't have to.
Speaker 6 (19:17):
Yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Was reading that's why, let's go to the next fantasy
relevant player who got drafted. Tampa Bay surprised me anyway
by taking Ohio state wide receiver Amika Agbuka. I it
wasn't that he didn't deserve to go nineteen for but
just for me, it was it was more that I
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just didn't expect that Tampa would end up taking him.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Super surprising pick. Yeah, they had the good wide receiver
corps obviously. I thought. I thought three across, I liked
all three of their starters and and going forward, Jayleen McMillan,
I thought he was the guy that they would view
as the long term slot there obviously that's the position
that Igbuka plays. Tampa Bay was the team in on Buka.
Appears that they liked him more than any other team.
I was surprised that they bypassed the defensive help they
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need in the front seven that was on the board
at the time, but they obviously like Ibuka as a rookie.
This is a difficult spot for him. This guy is
a target hound, so traditionally you would think of him
as a PPR fit. I don't know year one though,
if I am interested there because I don't know how
that thing shakes out, trying to get McMillan on the field.
If you have itg Buka there, you have the other
most to feed. Not the best landing spot forag Buka.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
McMillan was one of my favorite sleepers for this year,
not anymore.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Yeah, it just killed it right there.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
I'm really nervous by the way.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Free free McMillan form. Yeah, yeah, you know, let's send
him do it the Patriots.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Him and Ji Woods to the Patriots.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
That's a team that could use them.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Kevon Thibodau, you got to get traded now to af
Duel Carter just soak his job. Maybe he just send
him home.
Speaker 6 (20:48):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Patriots like it all right.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
The next Fantasy relevant player to go it was running
back Omarion Hampton. Now, many people thought that he would
go to Denver. They surprised us by deciding they basically
wanted to try to put together the best pair of
corners in the league.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
It's a deep class at running back too, And.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
It's a deep class at running back still, and I
suspect that day two that might be a solution for Denver.
But let's go to Omarion Hampton, who finds himself with
the Chargers, and now Greg Roman and Jim Harbaugh have
got their power back.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Did Sean Payton and his post draft presser on Thursday
insinuate that he manipulated Jim Harbaugh into this peck? I'm curious.
We'll have to watch back. But o'mari and Hampton. It's
Jim Harbaugh, right, I mean, he couldn't help himself. They
needed to taste him and get him out of the
room just from being the pick. Once he got by
the Broncos, yeah, you know so like and obviously he's
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going to get the touch. The guy who valued this
kills is Nase Harris. And you know that's sort of
interesting because you have superfluous aspects of their skill sets. Right,
Like with Nause, if you were trying to get a
complimentary guy from this class, you would think it'd be
more like a Trevion Henderson kind.
Speaker 6 (21:56):
Of a guy.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Yeah, so I think this totally wipes out Nase Harris
like a ssunami. So sorry to anyone out there who
had him on the Dynasty team excited in advance of this.
Omar and Hampton he's your bell cow. Immediately, I think
he's a bit overrated. I have to be honest. I
saw him as a high second round pick. There's some
teams in the NFL that obviously liked him more than me.
But ideal landing spot, right, perfect spot. This is what
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they love. They love to be physical, They love to
grind the ball. Harbaugh had talked about building up the
offensive line. Boy have they to this point?
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Right?
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Last year Joe Alt the free agent addition, you bring
him back to the hammer this year. They will continue
to keep the ball on the ground. That's now Omari
and Hampton. And it's a guy too after the catch.
He doesn't do a lot of interesting stuff as a receiver.
Prior to the ball being thrown. It's Chuck Down's dumb
boss screen swings. You're not seeing him run routes beyond
the line of scrimmage. However, you get him an envoy
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in front of him, get him the ball in space.
That's where you get the yards after the cat stuff
with him.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Since I'm the only one that's asking the hard hitting question,
how does this affect.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
I want to the New England page. Why are we
sending you ever into the Patriots at.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Need help everywhere?
Speaker 3 (23:11):
It actually wouldn't be bad for Kamani, Yeah, and actually
it might not. Yeah, free Kamani.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
As it turns out, Hampton's gonna go second round of redrafts.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
Oh, that would be a mistake in my mind. I
know Thorn called him a bell cow. The bell cow
is the dode over these days. You got three bell
cows maybe in the NFL these days.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Yeah, But Harvon Rolman are the kinds of guys that
can make a bell cow? Why did they sign Nasie
Hair so she was cheap and available? She was I
don't know.
Speaker 6 (23:40):
I'm second round seems rich to me, That's all. I'll say.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
He's gonna get goal line working for sure, I would
take him second. Yeah, Harbors sus that's all I see
it too.
Speaker 6 (23:50):
Yeah, if you're taking them second, you're taking them over
Brits Hall, Chase Brown.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
I do that fair enough.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
The next player taking was Matthew Golden. The it looks
like the Packers have finally finally decided the group of
receivers they have now is no number one is not
going to merge from that group. They needed to do
yet something different, and even though they've invested some mid
round picks into the into the position, they decide to
put the first first round pick into a wide receiver
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in over twenty years in Matthew.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Golden, Javon Walker.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Javon Walker. Yeah, moments, it was.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
It was a cool moment. You know, this organization that
over and over again, with these these awesome receiver classes
that we've had in recent years, would bypass the stud
receiver prospects to go for infrastructure positions. And then they're
hosting the draft this year and they decide to grab
a receiver in one of the worst receiver classes we've
seen in the last decade, even though players of their
defensive positions have needed fallen into their range so that
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that certainly illustrated a change of thinking there. I don't
know if I would have picked this year to be
the year that we're going to take the first round receiver.
Speaker 6 (24:53):
I would have loved to see Aaron Rodgers reaction to
the Packers taking finally taking a wide receiver in the
first round his class. But he's not there.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
What about me? Yeah? And is this the wide receiver
one that Josh Jacobs says that they're lacking. I don't.
I don't think so. Golden to me, he profiles as
a really good number two receiver.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
I liked him in Dallas.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, And he's He's a guy Golden
that can play both on the boundary and in the slot.
You can switch him around interchangeably if you want. He
can win at all three sections of the field. And
you can play him on the boundary despite his size
because he has a really good release package. Even in
the NFL, you're not getting him off the line. He
ran the four two nine. He also toggles his speed
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up and down. Really good people nipick him a little
bit for the statistical profile. The thing that I always
bring up as a true freshman. He goes to Houston
he had offers from all around the country. In fact,
he is a four star recruiter. Decommitted from TCU to
stay home and go to Houston. That's why he ended
up there. But as a true freshman he was in
a really good offense. But unfortunately for him, Tank Dell
was there. That was tank Dell's last season, so all
the all the touches went there. And then as a sophomore,
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Golden gets injured. That was his big breakout opportunity the
whole season breck by an injury. Then he goes to
Texas this past year, he was not brought in as
the wide receiver one. That was Isaiah Bond who was
brought in for the zaver Worthy role. Isja Bond was
a bust, as was their quarterback Quinn Viewers, who couldn't
throw down the field most this season, so you didn't
get to see golden skill set flower out. You did
at the very end of the season though, right when
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the schedule was leveraged the money spots their march to
the SEC title game and then the College Football Playoff.
That is when Matthew Golden the merge as their l
FU wide receiver one and he killed some future NFL
defenders put up some big stats there. I do think
this guy profiles is a really good number two in
the NFL. I just don't see a wide receiver one here, all.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Right, So we're a caution to dynasty owners who might
be you know, you might see the landing spot, a
good quarterback, you might see some hope, but maybe, you know,
maybe not in anybody that's going to power your fantasy team.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Especially in that kwaig Meyer of a situation. It feels
like Matthew Golden's not a complainer, but it feels like
we get some grumbling, you know of like you know,
we've seen him with some of them Packer receivers where
it's like one game they have the big game, yes,
and then it's a couple with two catches, three catches. Yeah,
it's so.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Yeah, it's a it's still a deep receiver room and
this doesn't change that for sure.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
Yeah, last year we said, don't draft a Packer receiver,
just draft Jordan Love if you want. Like the past
the game, think we're at the same spot.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
We probably agreed, probably are agreed.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
All right, it's final guy to talk about in the
last fantasy relevant player to be taken in uh In
in the first round. The Giants move up into the
first round to get Jackson Dart. Uh This is a
controversial move. They had to pay at real equity to
to make the move. Although I think it was just
a third and a third Dart last year or something
like that. Nice it was, Yeah, yeah, I know I
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need that.
Speaker 6 (27:38):
I don't have that.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
I don't have that button available me right now.
Speaker 6 (27:41):
That's just sad. His arm isn't that strong to throw.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
That.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Yeah, he can't get there. Does he have that kind
of cannon thor Yeah, talk to us about Jackson Dart.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
His arm tones decent. Yeah, yeah, And and he's got
the athletic profile too. He's he ran a little bit
too much for my liking that. I was a part
of his evaluation and an offense where you get the
read given to you in advance, the decisions made for
you in advance, and a lot of times he was
going to that first read. He saw a little bit
more second read last year, but most of the times
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he was going to his first read. Very very rarely
did you see him get to a third because typically
a second or his third read was tucking and running.
That's something that was very similar to Sam Hall last
year at UNC, very similar to Matt Carroll when he
was coming out of Ole miss Those are similar offensive
systems those guys played in. Jackson Dart the overall tree
top evaluation with him. You look at that stuff. He
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checked all seven boxes on the Bill Parcells quarterback criterion.
He was a high high recruit. He played in multiple offenses.
Statistical profile all speaks for itself. A lot of that stuff.
It suggests a guy who should have gone even higher
than this. However, you have a black box in the
evaluation of a guy who we have not seen make
decisions after the snap yet. That's something we're going to
see for the first time in the NFL where the
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decision has not been made for him. Total black box.
So if New York is right here, they're guessing right,
they're making a leader. If they're right, they got a
guy at a steal of a price. Otherwise they just
burned all that draft equity, right, I mean, it's gonna
go one way or the other. It was a little
rich for my blood, especially the equity they gave up
when those quarterbacks are going down the board. I don't
know who they thought was going to hop them. That's
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obviously who Dable wants here. And I will say, in
Dart's defense, the system that he ran for Kiff and
he ran it awesome, right. This is the you know,
similar to Boenick's last year who as you guys know,
I slept on him and I was wrong and et cetera,
et cetera. Boenix ran that system in Oregon really really well.
Sean Payton was looking for a guy run my system.
He doesn't want Sean Payton would hate Caleb Williams. Sean
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Payton wants man cherry and candidate quarterbacks. I tell you
what to do and then you go out there and
you do it right. And that is what And I
think Jackson Dart that's what he is as well. He
is gonna run that system. Brian Dable wants a guy
to run the system. Brian Dabele's gonna have to teach
him some of the other stuff. But the last point
I'll make on this, I think the modern NFL has
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gotten better at developing this skill set with quarterbacks because
of the institution of VR systems. Jaydon Daniels his game
shot up at LSU was the reason that you know,
he was the number two overall pick when he was
coming out of Arizona State. After his third season, we
thought that guy's football career was going to be done
when his collegiate eligibility expired. He got the VR system
at LSU, and by the time he was done at LSU,
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they were running plays on double speed for him, fast forward,
and he was making the correct decision. It was like
freaking Neo and the matrix, and then the game slowed
down for him. You got to see his physical ability
jump up. JJ McCarthy here in Minnesota obviously last year
he had the knee injury. He was in the VR
system every day, right like after practice. He would see
they had the camera on Donald's helmet and then he
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would do the VR system through Donald's point of view.
I wonder if New York they have a plan to
get Jackson Dart in the VR as well. Jackson Dart
will get the the He's going to get the thing
that cam Ward's not where cam Wward's got to get
thrown in right away. Jackson Dart will get his season
to sit there and learn behind Russell Wilson, Jamis Winston,
et cetera. And we can find but they do have
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tools to potentially try to develop that trait.
Speaker 6 (31:03):
I was about to say, I would prefer that Jackson
Dart be mentored by a video game rather than the
combination of Russell Wilson and James.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
What about.
Speaker 6 (31:15):
With the New York media breathing down your next too,
It's gonna be.
Speaker 5 (31:18):
A good time for jack Also, how long of a
runway does dayball in that crew in New York have
before they have to get Dart.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
In the game. It might be one month, but you know,
I mean, yeah, if they start out horribly, they are
on the hottest seats, of course, but yeah, that will
be interesting when you get into there if they're like,
oh man, we got to do something to save our jobs.
But then you're tossing them all prematurely because we don't
want to get Dart out there before some of these
skills have developed. You might break them, right, So I mean,
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if you had your druthers, you would wait until the
very end of the season. If nothing else, I would
like him on the bench the entire first year.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
Where do I get druthers?
Speaker 3 (31:55):
That was a calm mc cockney word. Yeah, I got
that from Ny.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
You're not wearing any others. Right now, this has been great.
I love the breakdown of all the players in the
first round. Uh, this is going to be an unusual
year in that there's gonna be some amazing running backs
still to come in this draft.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Yes, and we won't be a line.
Speaker 6 (32:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Next week we'll start breaking down the players, the most
interesting players who went through the rest of the draft.
Can't do them all because there's going to be I
don't know, like sixty or seventy.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
We can do them all.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Yeah, and then the un the challenge right yeah, yeah,
you would.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Folks out there demand from church and we have a
UDFA episode at.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Oh man, if anybody could do its youth, let's get
into we got allays for a little he uh, he
pegged Cocer is the top one of the top udfa's last.
Speaker 6 (32:40):
Year original right, Yes, I would uh walk my dog
around the panther ceaty and I live in Charlotte now,
and I would tell the security guards and some of
the guys that work for the team because they're always around.
I'm like Jalen Cocher, Jalen cochery looking me out and
crazy makes a team like what's up? Now? They're like
this is Jalen Cocher and I only don't know about
there already scroll of your.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
You take it thunder.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Great to have everybody in one room, one place, this
this very rarely happens for all of us even and
this is uh, it's it's super special being with all
you guys, no doubt uh. And for you listeners, thank
you for coming back to Fantasy Football Weekly and we'll
we'll break down the rest of the draft next week.
Speaker 6 (33:20):
Bye bye, everybody.