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June 5, 2025 36 mins
The weekly podcast from The Lynch & Taco Morning Show on 101one WJRR in Orlando.  This week's guest is Brian Grimes from XL 1067
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Greetings, everybody, Welcome to another episode of Off the Air,
the weekly podcast from the Lynch and Taco Morning Show
here on one O one one w jr R. And
Beautiful Orlando on Pat Lynch Tago Bob.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Now.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
Each week, Pat, we've been just having different guests on
to kind of switch it up.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
You know, we've probably been trying most weeks to have
a guest.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Last week it was gonna be Johnny, but then I
understood he had something going on.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
It would be Johnny Magic from Johnny's House on Exit
on XL one O six seven.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Yeah, and I didn't get to ask him again, Well
I did, but he didn't respond. And then I go,
you know what, we need to have Brian on. Brian
Brian Grimes from Excel. He's the producer, I think more
than a producer. You're the it guy. He kind of
does everything.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
All right. With that, speaking of doing everything, let me
reach over to our new state of the art switcher
and switch from the split screen camera to the whole
room view so we can get you in Frank here
Brian Grimes.

Speaker 4 (01:01):
Okay, look at that.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
That's nice. There he is, Wow, there he is.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
We have a three camera high definition set up in
the studio.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Now thanks to you who did that, the it man
and that on that side of Brian Brian Grimes did
it put Yeah, Pat, ever since you set this thing up. Yeah,
it's like he's gone back to UCF. He's like a kid,
all happy, like, no, look at this, look at this.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Did you go to college?

Speaker 2 (01:29):
I did? I did? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Where'd you go?

Speaker 2 (01:31):
So?

Speaker 4 (01:31):
I went to UCF for like literally a minute. I didn't.
I didn't love it.

Speaker 5 (01:34):
I went to you some community colleges bounced around back then.
Well there's state colleges now, but they were community college
back Did you.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Take any radio and television courses?

Speaker 5 (01:42):
No? I went to University of North Texas and I
was in communication design, which is like graphic design for advertising.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
But no, no broadcast.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
The reason I asked him, just picking up on what
he said. We went to UCF and went through the
radio television program there. When I was going there, and
I can't speak for Bob. When I was going there,
I had no interest in TV whatsoever, but it went
hand in hand. You had to go through the paces
and do all of the assignments and hands on stuff
with the equipment, which you know here we are thirty

(02:11):
years later. It's a different animal. But right I'm flashing
back to when I was having to do the TV
stuff and I really didn't give a shit about.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
Yeah, camera one now here here I am in radio gole,
accomplished with my education, and you know, I've made.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
A career of it.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Now videos back as I have to reach over and
operate the switcher every week, so it is kind of
a flashback, and I'm like, okay, we.

Speaker 5 (02:33):
Kind of the social media, right you too? Now they
have to see us as well.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Right now, I was trying.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
I told Pat, we were talking to our engineer who
after you grabbed the cameras and help get them all
set up.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
He was also doing it as well, Frank the engineer,
right yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
And Pat's like, hey's ear every week we can move.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
This box a little closer. And uh, I told I'm
going to get him one of those little finger things,
you know what.

Speaker 4 (02:57):
I'm talry like, oh, they're like the extender.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Yeah, it's like stick, like the old backscratcher.

Speaker 5 (03:02):
So Johnny Magic, who I work with across the window here,
uh at XL, He's got a drumstick with a mickey
finger rubber mickey finger.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
On it in points. It would be perfect.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
More. We're gonna steal his is stick. No no, no, no,
I can go to the dollar store and get like
one of those.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
Little pork yeah got it.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yeah yeah, I use that to pull a squirrel out
of my attic one time.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
After I shot it, he watched me pull a.

Speaker 5 (03:29):
Squirrel out of my ac So when you started with
pull a spirrel out of my am like, okay, now
I'm at the rock station.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Right on hole Richard gear situation going on here? Shut up?

Speaker 3 (03:40):
I didn't putting squirrels mass No, So I'm shooting them
up in the attic because they ate their way through
my my we go.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Everywhere with okay, so you shot move like a bb gun.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yeah okay, that's that's one of his personas his hunter,
bob Hunter, which will elaborate more on here in a second.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
Please eight straight through all of my softet stuff, and
I'm like, son of a bitch. Now they ate all
the wiring upstairs, which back in the day phones were important.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Home phone, yes, yes, ate all that ship, ate the cable,
ate everything.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
So I hunted him down or her because turns out
she was pregnant with a whole anyway, No murder, a
pregnant squall wasn't pregnant then she had already had the babies,
so I was gonna bring a milky.

Speaker 4 (04:20):
He married, murdered, a mother.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
Left them, left the mother orphans squirrels listen.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
So I shoot the thing and I go.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
My buddy Doyle's there, and I go, I think I
got it, And you heard it start rolling down, but
it stopped. So he had one of those Porpois things
because he owns a landscape of company.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
So I'm out there on a ladder drinking beer when
neighbors are driving by. One of them was a cop,
and I was sitting there on a ladder with a
beer in my hand. I'm like, how are you with
a squirrel.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Ground or whatever? It was awesome.

Speaker 5 (04:50):
It sounds like something a group of guys called Bob
and Doyle would do.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Yeah, it was a good time by just for a
I know you've known us forever. All of Bob's friends
all have nicknames without fail.

Speaker 5 (05:04):
So I've never done anything with Jar ever in any capacity.

Speaker 4 (05:08):
I've worked next to you guys forever. I listened to JR.
My kid loves JARR. You've never done anything Jr.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
Before you lied. It's not on jarr R. But we
did the whiskey thing together.

Speaker 4 (05:20):
Yeah, but I mean we did an appearance together.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
All right. I want to back up though, before we
go any further with that, to the whole Hunter Bob
because this is an important party. What he just described,
the pregnant squirrel slaughter was humane compared to the beginnings,
the early stages of Hunter Bob. That involved a trash
can full of water in the driveway. And I'll just
leave it at that.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
It was the backyard, and I feel bad for what
I did.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Do I get to hear the story, let me put
it on the news. I would rather be waterboarded than
what he did to Was it possums?

Speaker 3 (06:00):
And I know it was in your mate. This is
twenty years ago. It's Pat out of whatever you call that.

Speaker 5 (06:05):
We're past the cancel phase anyway. Yes, you've made it
through the game canceled. So remember yeah that brief moment
you're like the show Roseanne canceled and brought back.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
We were we were canceled before canceled.

Speaker 5 (06:17):
Culture hands on the o gs have canceled, yeah, but no,
so yeah for giving PTSD to Pat.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
The pot Yeah, Now, the possum wouldn't die, and it
was my fault.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
I didn't want to throw it at the pool.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
And so so you fill up with trash can.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
It's it's resting in peace, okay. And it was not
my driveway because then everybody would.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
Have seen it in the backyard behind the fence.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Just instead I talked about in the radio. No, no one.

Speaker 4 (06:45):
Will hear about it.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
All right now, Brian, did uh did you fill out
the pre lynchon Taco Show off the air podcast questionnaire
that Taco was supposed to provide.

Speaker 4 (06:54):
You He did not provide me with?

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Okay, good, because that's complete bullshit. There's no such thing.

Speaker 4 (06:57):
It's gonna say it wasn't provided with this.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah, because we really we come into this with no
agenda whatsoever ever, because we just feel like, uh, you know,
sometimes things take on a uh you know, minded their own,
and we want to be able to wander aimlessly. Sure
something else about Brian. I appreciate you being I think
me and you possibly are the only two Miami Hurricane

(07:19):
fans in the whole building. Yeah, so we get to
bond over that for a well yearly. But uh yeah,
especially during football.

Speaker 4 (07:26):
The first thing in the morning when no one else
is here.

Speaker 5 (07:28):
So it's always Pat that's here before me, or it's
some days when I'm getting here really early, I might
beat him, but usually it's just him in the building
and I come in, so it's just the two of us.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
Yeah, we just the two of us, and then it'll
be Johnny and it'll be Ray.

Speaker 5 (07:42):
But we generally talk hurricane bullshit right as soon as
I get here because whatever happened that weekend or.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
Whenever, pissed or happy or whatever, usually pissed.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yes, but at least you guys have had a good
quarterback Cossus, and there's high hopes to sh we'll see.

Speaker 5 (07:57):
Yeah, we wouldn't got the Georgia guy if his elbow
holds up.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
Let's hope we'll see. So a little bit of Brian's history.
Let's go back be after.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
By Brian is Brian Grimes from Johnny's house on XL
want to success, So nice reup?

Speaker 2 (08:14):
I like them Grimes. Case, we we've done this a bit, we.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
Get in trouble for then on the time you got
to remind people who you're talking to.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
And you know it's funny, is it? I was reminding
last time that we had somebody. I go, oh, yeah,
we have whatever, and Patt just living at me like yeah, yeah.
So Pat talked about college and you went to college.
And then tell a little bit of your background because
working for a Juggernaut, as Pat calls it, like XL
one of six seven. Yeah, you have history way back

(08:42):
because I remember when, uh, you interned, but you interned
with Dave.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
Greve Green, our production guy. XCEL wasn't here yet at
the time.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
So is this jr R.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
Is it the first radio station you guys worked at me?

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (08:54):
No, and it's so it's for you. It is only
one you've worked at really there.

Speaker 5 (08:57):
Yeah, so that's something that you and I haven't come
in inradio, people usually don't usually bounce around or whatever.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
But EXCEL.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
Yeah, XL is the only.

Speaker 5 (09:06):
Well now I do other stations because you know how
the business is now, but XL is my first and
only radio job.

Speaker 4 (09:12):
So I went to college.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
I didn't go to.

Speaker 5 (09:14):
College for radio and stuff, and I didn't get a
job out, you know, in production or graphic design or
any of that stuff. But I did work part time
at Best Buy and I did the back office stuff
early in the morning and it would last until around noon.
So I just basically would crunch all the numbers and
stuff so I could go to school and everything.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
God damn it, Steve is six.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
Yes, funny shift, Yes, isn't. It's the worst when you
had to try to track down those shortages.

Speaker 5 (09:39):
It was a lot of cash transactions back then. So
I want to do now it's all you know, digital.

Speaker 4 (09:43):
Back then there was more to do.

Speaker 5 (09:44):
So I would be in there for hours and I
would listen to real radio and at the time it
was Howard Stern and then it would roll into the
monsters in the midday, and so I would just listen
to them and I would be like, I DJ'ed in college,
like you know, club DJ. So I had some technical skills.
Always thought I was pretty funny. I'm creative.

Speaker 4 (10:03):
I was a graphic designer, so I was like, I
could totally do that, Like, I.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Mean, it sounds easy.

Speaker 5 (10:07):
That's like a fun job I wanted. And I'm crunching
numbers off freaking day.

Speaker 4 (10:10):
This sucks. And so there was a broadcasting school called
a c I. I don't know if you remember. It was
Thanks Advance, that guy back in the day. It was
in Daytona. They worked with the rock station over there.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
What was the crow?

Speaker 4 (10:22):
It was at the time, it was the Crow because
this was a long time ago.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
And it was the saying, and that's how I knew
it was Dance Advance.

Speaker 5 (10:29):
Well, I reached out to them because I couldn't get
an internship through UCF because I wasn't in the program.

Speaker 4 (10:35):
So he's like, sure, come on over whatever, if you
give him your five hundred dollars, they'll let you do
whatever you want.

Speaker 5 (10:40):
So I gave him my five hundred dollars to be
an a c I He signed off of my internship
and I got an internship with Dave Green, and that's
how I got in the building. Then met you know,
and made it a point to be in front of
as many people as possible.

Speaker 4 (10:52):
Met all the people over there.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
You know.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
They let me sit in.

Speaker 5 (10:56):
On stuff in the studio so I could learn how
it worked and all that crap.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
My internship ended.

Speaker 5 (11:02):
I got a job at this place called the Broadcast Team.
And if I'm getting to long, would tell me to
shut them own. This place called the Broadcast Team. They're
out of Ormond Beach. They owned a company that developed
the early stages of robo calls where celebrities would call
you okay, so like when a politician would be like,
hey this Barack Obama, that was them.

Speaker 4 (11:22):
They did all that back in the day.

Speaker 5 (11:24):
The guys that owned it, they were just you know,
a couple of cool guys surf for dudes. They hung
out and they had the idea to start internet radio.
So they started a side company called e Radio, and
they needed someone to do all of the work for it.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
So they hit up me and.

Speaker 5 (11:40):
One of my friends who through contact through Vance, and
we were the first morning show.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
On their internet radio station, E Radio Live.

Speaker 5 (11:48):
Their idea, which was just too early because there was
no apps, there was no streaming radio in any of
that stuff. Their idea was to do this and then
build streaming radio brands for companies like so Walmart Radios
Radio which now exists, Flea World.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
Radio, which we we we aspired to work at.

Speaker 5 (12:07):
They were about fifteen years too early, that's all. So
they funded it for about two years, and we were
like their court jesters. They would they would work in
the corporate office next door to this little building they
built for us. They'd come over and like, you know,
throw stuff at us, and we were basically entertainment for
them until finally they're like, okay, we haven't monetized it
in two years.

Speaker 4 (12:25):
We got to pull the plug.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (12:27):
But through that I met a guy who was one
of their engineers, who was the cousin of Glory, who
was a promotions manager at Excel. Excel at the time
had moved over to iHeart at the time, Clear Channel.
She gave me a job in promotions and that's how
I got into this building. And I just hustled like crazy,
worked some gigs with Doc and Johnny back in the day.
They're like, hey, we like this guy. He's always on time.
He always has a mic ready to go.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
Were you on the air when they was Johnny talking?

Speaker 3 (12:53):
By the way, again, we have Brian Grimes from XL
when I was six seven a Johnny's house.

Speaker 5 (12:57):
Where did you enter the timeline of Actually it was
Doc and john Still So when I started, you guys
know Buckethead, Yeah, Buckethead.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Buckethead had left.

Speaker 5 (13:10):
That show over there. He was on Doc and Johnny.
So is Doc and Johnny Buckethead, High Lug and Grace.
So he left and Hyla was the producer and then
I got I kind of just started hanging out, and
I was working for free for years. That's back before
they really tracked any of that stuff. I was working
for free for years, and then Hyla, I started to

(13:31):
learning how.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
To call that slave labor some yeah, trafficking.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
Yeah, I think someone did call it that. That's why
they stopped doing it.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Somebody radio did it, generally frowned upon.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
Let's just move on from that. Gray, that's what's wrong
with Gray about it.

Speaker 5 (13:52):
But to me, that's the problem is these kids now
don't have to work for free, and they don't respect that.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
The hustle that we had to go through.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
Brian is the perfect example, Brian Grimes, and you heard
it doing the engineering stuff, set down, running boards.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Doing this. You came in and did it the same thing.
I did.

Speaker 4 (14:12):
Make a sure Dock had a beer because I knew
that was important to him, you know. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (14:15):
I just did all those things though, to the point
where when it got to be like, well we need
someone that guy's great and cool.

Speaker 4 (14:21):
Here I am because you did you learned it all.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
Sorry, Pat, I did the same exact thing, and so
did Pat. Where we sat in with people, you had to.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
To speak though to what you just hit on and
it used to really great on us to the younger
generation right now, Uh, you cannot knock them for something
they did not have an opportunity to experience. Yeah, the
way things have improved as far as technology, yes, it
just steps forward. All of that stuff, So much of

(14:49):
it is irrelevant at this point where it's just like
you pick up and jump in. I mean, if you
try to explain to somebody that doing this job on
a music based radio station used to involve, or any
radio station for that matter, a physical human being twenty
four hours a day, seven days a week, moving from
one element to the next, to the next and to

(15:11):
the next, with the object objective of being making it
all flow seamlessly with no dead air in between, and
being able to try to come up and uh put
forth a conscious stream of thought and make it all
sound coheresent.

Speaker 5 (15:23):
Real time, real time, no recording and going on. I
don't like the way that sounds into it, right, Just
you jump.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
In and yes, that's again right, it's it's how it
used to be. It's not that way anymore. So it
really doesn't matter that they get well that part.

Speaker 4 (15:37):
I agree with you.

Speaker 5 (15:38):
I don't fault them for that because they couldn't go
through it, and like I didn't.

Speaker 4 (15:41):
I didn't use cards.

Speaker 5 (15:43):
I got here at CDs and so but I did
learn how to splice, you know, reel to reel, which
was the worst, the worst. So I don't fault them
for that because obviously technology is better, like we're not
riding horse and buggies because they invented cars and I
get all that, right that, but but it built work
ethic and respect for the platform that I think doesn't
exist anymore because now it's like, oh, I've got thirty

(16:04):
eight followers and I want a podcast, yeah, and like cool,
let's give you the overnight show like with nothing and
that to me, it's like you get you should then
that's a fake it ty, you make a situation and
now you should go back and grind and learn all
of this stuff. You should know how everything works if
you're going to talk on the radio.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
I think, and Brian, you and I have talked about it,
and that's what Pat and I had to just let go,
was we did all the hustle to learn it all
they don't have to, Impat said, it's not a knock
on them, but to walk in here and just expect
to be on the air. Bullshit, dude, we had to
wait forever.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
But as Brian just pointed out, that is the case
sometimes where we were like that, how the hell did
they get on? And it's like you just have to
let it wash off and not bother you, but learn it.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Like Brian says, Okay, you're on the air.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
How many people do we have that work that came
on here that didn't learn the board every time.

Speaker 4 (16:58):
They've been in And it's like, wait, you were supposed
to just start learning the board. You should know. You
should know everything.

Speaker 5 (17:02):
To me, you should know everything about this place on
the radio side, if you're going to talk on the radio,
tip to me.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
An analogy with what he's speaking to and using this
as folks, we've tried to have on and bring him
through the process.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
We turned this into radio nerd show.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
That's a lot of the listeners like the behind the
scenes stuff.

Speaker 4 (17:18):
And again we on the door when it comes to radio.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
So the whole thought of coming in and doing this
job without knowing what goes into it is to me
the same as like Okay, I'm gonna go get my
annual physical from the doctor, but the blood test I
don't want to do that because I don't want to
know about it. Yeah, I'll just turn a blind eye
to it.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
At some point you have to face the music.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
Or I'm in a construction site, but I won't use
the nail gun under the hammer, right.

Speaker 4 (17:45):
Right, get the hell out.

Speaker 5 (17:47):
But I'm gonna take a really cool picture of the
house when it's done and pose in front of It's.

Speaker 4 (17:50):
Like, I'll post it on Instagram what I built. So
my son is.

Speaker 5 (17:53):
Starting in radio now, he's twenty, and he had no indition.
He's been some some jered argus. He loves Jerry rock music.
But he does one night a week, overnights on Excel Now. Now,
he didn't get to do it for the first year
he worked here. I told him I don't want you.
You don't drop that you're my son. Get out here, grind,
hustle and work. I want you to learn everything. I
want you to sit with people. So he's before he

(18:14):
even got on on the Xcel. He's set with Chad
and Leslie over there on their show, Like, I make
him do that stuff because I want him to understand
how it works. It's a it's a for him, it's
a curse and a blessing he has me as as
a dad, and I have got a little bit of
a name for myself in this building. At the same time,
I hold him to the standard that I want everyone
to work up to, but he has to so he's

(18:36):
he has to learn the board, whereas like some maybe
part timers that also work at Excel don't know what
half of those buttons do because no one makes them.
And I make him, and as you said, and he's
gonna be better for it in the long run. As
you said, I think I have a name somewhat of
a name in this building in this town. That's Brian
Grimes from XL And I'm just doing that for Moss.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
Hey, one more radio inside Baseball deal here, And Taco's
face is going to light up when I say this,
with yeah, yeah, yeah. He's convinced that he thinks we
get a Lynch in Taco cruise green lighted again. That's
pretty much my my rece now, No, because you are

(19:20):
convinced that that you think we should push for that,
and I'm not because I just I don't think it'll
ever happen again. And knowing that you guys are getting
set to do another cruise eighteenth or nineteen what.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Their material listeners.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
Give us the there's some guidance here. If we were
to even try to bring this up again, how do
we how do we express the potential upside?

Speaker 5 (19:45):
Okay, so the first positive for you is that a
lot of the people that are were here during the
debacle are gone, right, so they.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
May not even know.

Speaker 5 (19:55):
Oh yeah, management, right, salespeople and I'm I'm sure. And
on the cruise side, those there's those people probably have
turned over to So there's the first plus. You're good
there because I think a lot of people gone don't
even know it was a problem. What you hope is
that they don't go talk to somebody who was here,
because that happens, it's gonna need.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
You to do a deep dive on this Lynch and
Taco show.

Speaker 4 (20:15):
You get to die right there.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
I'd go right to Jeff Wagstaff, but he was the
one that planned the horses.

Speaker 5 (20:21):
But he's real good at looking the other way on things,
especially when money's involved.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
So Jesus Christ, there's a cruise that all host a
death metal cruise.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Now you can't have our radio shows.

Speaker 5 (20:32):
Come on, man, you're probably gonna have to sign some
sort of agreement. Oh yeah, that's gonna say that you
that you'll be upstanding citizens while at see that. I
don't have to sign on my station, but you guys
probably will have to. And other than that, I would say,
go find some way to attach money to it. They
say they will never say no to money.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
Here.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
If you go find someone to attach money to it.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
We know people that would attach money.

Speaker 5 (20:56):
Public We would sponsor public executions if they can turn
a dollar on it.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
You know. Back to the cruise thing.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
I think it would be great, but Pat also does
my cruising, so that's a downside. One time I asked Johnny.
I said, hey, Johnny, you guys are on a cruise,
how about if we do a duel blind?

Speaker 2 (21:14):
Yeah, and you ready? He goes, hell no, we're not putting.

Speaker 4 (21:20):
I mean, here's what's funny.

Speaker 5 (21:22):
Sales has been trying to do that for years because
XL is a typically a female based station, you guys
are typically a male based station.

Speaker 4 (21:28):
I mean it works, I mean square peg.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Yeah, round, Oh yeah, but a lot.

Speaker 5 (21:34):
Of pegs of holes. But yeah, I don't I don't
think Johnny would sign off on it.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Oh hell no, yea. He told me they tried to
put us up.

Speaker 5 (21:43):
With the monsters, and Johnny's like, uh, absolutely not, not.

Speaker 4 (21:47):
A chance at hell.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
Same recipe. So yeah, I.

Speaker 5 (21:50):
Don't know that you guys are gonna get a good
I would love to go on your cruise.

Speaker 4 (21:53):
That would be fun.

Speaker 5 (21:54):
I like when I get to do stuff that's outside
the top forty rom because.

Speaker 4 (21:57):
Like I, I do stand up comedy.

Speaker 5 (21:59):
Sometimes I am I'm an abrasive person and generally speaking,
but I've got to really shine it up over there
more than than I would have to anywhere else because
it's because it's a top forty thing to be able
to chase anybody off. No, I've got to be careful here.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
To not say anything with those rock guys.

Speaker 5 (22:16):
That's gonna be like, oh, but I would love to
do you guys.

Speaker 4 (22:20):
Did your guys cruise?

Speaker 2 (22:22):
Dude?

Speaker 4 (22:22):
I went to Earthday Birthday just once.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
The theoretical cruise. Yeah yeah, in theory.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
In theory, I did Earthday Birthday once and I was like, whoa,
this is awesome. So much different than Red Hot and Boom,
Like it's so so different. There's boobies walking around.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
Raw speaking of Red Hot and Boom, So that's is
it just scale back even more again this year. That's
I know it's not but for the longest time, you guys.

Speaker 4 (22:45):
There's another station on it now.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
Shocking, really, yeah, there is what happened to the whole thing.
And to be honest with you, because I live in
that close to the Crane Roosts with all the ship
they've built around Crane Roost and those apartments, once those
things open and the traffic situation there, I just I
don't know even how they accommodate that anymore.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
There's a lot of it.

Speaker 5 (23:07):
The development around it was starting to hurt the scale
of it. Also some of the from what I understand,
some of the new regulations once these buildings are built
with fireworks, are going to have to shrink the firework show.
There's height regulations now because of the buildings and stuff
like that, so that was going to be an issue.
It got financially expensive to put on, Like everything is,

(23:32):
it got hard and harder for us to get artists
because a lot of times back in the day, you
would get artists that were coming up and maybe they'd
have one or two big songs and they just needed
radio play and they want to get in front of people.
Now social media does a lot of that, and.

Speaker 4 (23:45):
So it's really hard.

Speaker 5 (23:46):
Like we had Avril Levine the year she blew up,
and when she decided to do Red On Boom, she
only had one song out.

Speaker 4 (23:51):
By the time Right On Boom came she had three
number ones, right, so she didn't even want to do it.

Speaker 5 (23:55):
In fact, she trashed us in Rolling Stone magazine the
next month, called us all kinds of names weak.

Speaker 4 (24:00):
Yet her they got thrown out.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
What she pissed off about just I think she.

Speaker 5 (24:04):
Was trying to show how rock and roll she was,
so I don't think she was pissed. They got thrown
out of the hotel for smoking weed and breaking things
like her in her band, And then she talked about
the bullshit radio festival that my record label forced me
to do last month over in Orlando and stuff.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
So like that.

Speaker 5 (24:21):
Comes back to bite you well again years later we
had her again because like she grew up.

Speaker 4 (24:25):
I mean, that was her rebellious rockstar thing. I gotta
be a rock star.

Speaker 5 (24:28):
But anyway, we used to get big artists like that,
but now like social media breaks them. And we had
a guy a couple of weeks ago, or about maybe
six months ago who did a little acoustic show Alex
Warren and he's got a number one song now because
of social media. Like, so he did one little thing
for us. We didn't blow him up, obviously we were
early on him. But he's not coming back to do
a radio gig. Now he's got a number one song.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
Benson Boone.

Speaker 5 (24:48):
We had Benson Boone. I don't know if your station,
but he's like the kind of new Bruno Mars. We
had him a red Hot and Boom three years ago.
I was freaking eating zingers at Alehouse and Autimont with
the guy. And now he's Grammy winners. And but like,
they don't need our radio platform shows like that anymore.
They need us to play them on the air, but

(25:09):
they don't need to be here because social media.

Speaker 4 (25:11):
So it's harder to get at.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
Not only that now, it's these when you say festival,
now that has become a multimillion dollar production, right and
as big of a company as the one we work for,
is they're on a single radio station. Basis, you're not
getting a budget like that, right, And sometimes listen, and

(25:32):
this is not meant to be a criticism of anyone
who listens to our radio stations. Sometimes you get asked
a question from a listener, why can't you guys just
get like Metallica for Earthday Birthday?

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Right?

Speaker 1 (25:44):
And I go, we would like nothing more than that,
but we try to keep the price of earth Day
Birthday relatively affordable. And you know, if you didn't mind
paying you know, four hundred dollars for a ticket and
getting you know, thirty thousand other people to feel the
same way, we could probably do that.

Speaker 5 (26:01):
Well, I've got having Boom wasn't even a ticketed event, right, Like, yeah,
So what.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
I'm getting at now is you've got guys like Danny Wimer,
who this is what they do for a living. They
have multimillion dollar buckets, right, And we get in that
way and it well.

Speaker 5 (26:15):
Again, Yeah, Welcome to rock Fille is a great event. Absolutely,
It's full of great people and you guys were at it.
But it's not something that we, as a local cluster
could put on just they would laugh us out of
the room. Back in the day, we used to do
Christmas shows at XL. We would do three a night,
and they had big names like we would get like
fallout Boy, which is an arena band, but we do
it a house of blues and tickets would be a

(26:35):
little expensive.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
But then the Mothership.

Speaker 5 (26:40):
Called one of the bands we had booked that year
and tried to get them on jingle Ball and they said, well,
we're already booked for your show in Orlando. And they
were like, we don't have a show in Orlando. And
then they called out here they said, hey, you have
a show in Orlando. Yeah, next year you don't. And
it's so like, it's just the business is not what
it used to be.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
It's different.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
That's just kind of like Riper Thursday. You guys have Stripper.

Speaker 4 (27:03):
That's exactly what you guys have Stripper Thursday going.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
On in there. Why are internet ratings which they weren't
even important and they were just starting to be important.
They go, why are the internet ratings New York LA
in Orlandos?

Speaker 1 (27:20):
Dude, So I used to work and it was specifically
because of Stripper.

Speaker 5 (27:25):
And I know this because I used to work on
what we called the IT team in and so I
worked on the brands like Excel or whatever.

Speaker 4 (27:33):
And then Amanda at the time was working with.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
This is Brian Grimes by the way from Johnny's House
on XL one or six.

Speaker 5 (27:39):
Seven and clicks is what we would chase back in
the day. We need clicks, And so they would come
to us and they would say, look at j R
R's numbers. Why can't you get JR R's numbers? And
I used to say, because I can't put bovies on
XL's And we had a boss who had a rule
you had to be two clicks away from nickeedness. If
you weren't two clicks away from nickedness, they would shut
you down.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
Is that you, guys?

Speaker 4 (28:00):
That was you?

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Guys were never.

Speaker 5 (28:02):
Two clicks away from neckdness. And I used the end
meetings always get drilled.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
Why can't you be more like.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
J R R?

Speaker 3 (28:08):
And I was like, because they shows if I can
show titnies, I can't show. They always say tits clicks easy.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
But if you remember.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
The boss that would say two steps, is that the
one that uh got.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Fired for something?

Speaker 3 (28:28):
No, no, different, that would have been ironic different bosses,
Oh thank god, different.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Boss That was a CD situation. We won't bring up, dude.

Speaker 5 (28:37):
Trust me, I know that was my introduction to oh
my god, I'm gonna lose my job, like literally right
after I got it.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
Yeah, I know that we got to wrap it up.
But there's one no, dude, it's all we're all. We're
all talking. So the one thing I want Brian.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
To mention is the first day that you were behind
the glass because it was Doc Johnny one room, and
all of a sudden, Brian is here filling in for.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
Uh Kyla for Hyla. Yeah, and and Doc said what yeah, So.

Speaker 5 (29:09):
We opened the break and in the talk back, because
we're in separate rooms, he does his uh Orlando's number
one hit music station x I one O sixty seven
is Doc, and Johnny takes a little breath. Why Johnny
says something in the in the talk back, who the
fuck are you?

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Doc?

Speaker 5 (29:28):
Bro? Oh?

Speaker 3 (29:28):
Yeah, by the way, we normally don't drop F bombs
on him, but sorry two clicks away from F box.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
I didn't know the rules. He didn't send me the
question asshole. He didn't send me the questionnaire. Pat No.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
But it's funny because Ray was telling her story about
running into UH Rise again or whoever in the parking.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
She's like, I was like, and she goes, oh, the
one thing you told me not so John or so
Doc says that and then this is all live.

Speaker 5 (29:56):
We're live, so he's in my headphones and he says that,
and then he clicks right back to Statursday morning and I'm.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Like, what am I supposed to do now?

Speaker 5 (30:04):
And he comes over, no, seriously with it for you,
and I'm like, Hayla didn't come in this morning. I've
been sitting in the corner the whole time, like I've
just been learning things I've been.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
Here for, you know, over a year or two, just
stuck with how things had been and running like you know,
this is how it goes. And all of a sudden changed.

Speaker 5 (30:25):
Yeah, and Doca was an old school, typical morning radio guy,
like he wanted everything to be the way he wanted it.
He looks over and you know, it's not Hyla who
was six three, spiky hair, skinny guy. It's a little
tiny short met behind the board and the hat pulled down.
He's like, what the hell's going on here?

Speaker 4 (30:42):
And Doc used to walk into the room as the
show was starting.

Speaker 5 (30:46):
Yeah, I can relate to that, So so he didn't
get a pre show. I'm over here like and this
is what's happening. He walks in, sits down and opens
the mic and he looks over and expects to see
Hyla and he sees me and.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
He's like, yeah, that is beautiful.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
It was fun. It was It was a good dude.

Speaker 5 (31:02):
I had a good a good radio upbringing. It got
me ready for a lot of stuff. We knew Doc
well and uh, he was a trip dude.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
I remember after.

Speaker 3 (31:10):
We got let Go, going and meeting with him a
couple of times having lunch and we talked about you know,
maybe this could happen or that.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
Those he actually opened the door for us where we
did get hired briefly. Oh yeah, yeah, and uh we've
already told that story. But it was. It was weird
how things have a reason for happening. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
and it all it all ended up working out.

Speaker 5 (31:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
We were glad to have you guys back.

Speaker 5 (31:36):
It always cracks me up when I walked down the
hall and I see the promo shot on the wall
of you guys at the convenience store.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
God's honest, true.

Speaker 4 (31:42):
I know.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
It's why it makes me so.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
I worked at that store.

Speaker 4 (31:46):
I'm like, you guys are a great story. You guys
are a great radio story.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
I was at the convenience store for the record he
did because I was selling a magazine or something. I
just always wanted to have insurance for the family. So
I took off a year and a half. I just
lived off whatever.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
Yeah, totally logical.

Speaker 4 (32:08):
I have insurance that's off for a year.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
No, back then, it wasn't like, hey, you're gonna go
to Blue Cross Blue Shield and they're gonna have a
small package for you. I was used to this United
Healthcare that had everything, and that lost my job with
an infant and a three year old. So I just
got to have insurance. I just every now and then
work with a buddy who was running a company. So
one was time share. One was selling magazine, when I

(32:32):
was selling magazines, I was right.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
Next to his circle. I think that's what works. And
that Cruis did I remember? I brought it.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
I bought it, And I'm like Jesus Christ, it's a
funny story. Day get any worse.

Speaker 5 (32:45):
It's a funny story, but it's also like the worst
story ever.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
Yeah, and here I am in a tie trying to
sell ad space in a magazine.

Speaker 5 (32:54):
Not that we can go into it, but like, have
you guys told the full story?

Speaker 4 (32:59):
But yeah, you can't.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
We can't. It will be in a bus because there's.

Speaker 5 (33:02):
Some things that I always say one day and we
used to be book idea, but now I'm going to
throw up a paywall and and once a week I
got stories.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
For well, well, eventually we'll get to that when the
wave crashes on the beach for the last time. But yeah,
we learned what an NDA was fifteen years ago.

Speaker 5 (33:21):
Well, if you're watching the Diddy trial, you know they
don't really hold up. So when you do decide the story,
just tell it.

Speaker 4 (33:26):
Who cares? But yeah, I do the same thing. I'm like,
there's going to.

Speaker 5 (33:29):
Be a day because I've got great stories about everybody.
But I've got story stories about everybody too, and there
will be a day where I tell them all like
it's going to happen.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
Oh yeah, but you don't want to drop the dirt
dirt because exactly what I'm gone, I will.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
I don't care.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
A lot of sketchiness that uh will anyway, I'm sorry,
down this will be a great place to jump off.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
Hold on. You got back in the day when we
a roof, we did strip and Thursday we all say
did flats of the Friday. I had to take a
ship in that trash can right there because I used
to swallow air and make myself fart, and I asked Pat,
I could fart on Cube.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
By swallowing air and just not burping up.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
And it was flats good Friday, and we're on a
record machine.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
I don't even think it was one of those.

Speaker 4 (34:16):
Yeah, I think it was probably the old school one.
Whatever it was, bro we this is Fox proper. What
was was that?

Speaker 2 (34:25):
Listeners care?

Speaker 3 (34:25):
But so I'm sitting here and I'm i'd be farting
into the microtaplem and playing.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
Back in a hole audio Fox.

Speaker 4 (34:31):
Yes, that was a box, and all of a sudden,
I go, I go, oh my god, Pat.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
We were going to do like a news segment. We're
idiotology basically back in there, I go, Dude, I gonna
go throw bad and Brian I took a blowout in
a in a trash can.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Not that exact one. No, now I can't get rid
of it.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
Pat's going, oh god, he just and he's talking about it,
but without breaking rules, you know, like but and back
then it was but I grabbed the bag and the
can and run and I'm running, No, not the can,
just the bag, and I'm running down the stairs on
that side and run by the cleaning lady and I

(35:15):
go oh, I said, oh, somebody threw up. Somebody puked
in the thing and it ran out and just threw
it right in that dumpster in the corner.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
That was awesome.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
Brian Grimes, thanks for walking into this this morning.

Speaker 5 (35:28):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
That has nothing to do with any station he works out,
of course.

Speaker 4 (35:32):
No, that's the difference between what I do and a
rock station.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
All right, sir, Hey, thank you for if you're still
listening to this at this point, God bless you.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
Thank you for coming in. Brian.

Speaker 4 (35:45):
Sorry, I hijacked it with nerd talk nod.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
It's all right, it's fun. We just do whatever.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
We really should come up with a pre show questionnaire, now,
some sort of framework.

Speaker 4 (35:56):
Please tell me I shouldn't say the F word?

Speaker 1 (35:58):
Well that two clicks away from that.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
Yeah, all right.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
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