January 30, 2025 • 33 mins
Happy New Year...Can we still say that? It's 2025 and Patty and the Millennials are back! We are kicking off this year of podcasting with the TRENDS OF 2025!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
Welcome to the podcast conversation Patty and the Millennials. I'm
a radio mat in Philadelphia who loves conversation and what
you're gonna find with this podcast. We have great conversations
and get deep with it and we talk about everything
millennials and Gen X and baby baby boomer millennials. There's
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so many MILLENNIALSX ten Z. Yeah, there's so many. Yeah,
it's so many. Uncle Oh is joining us and some
of the trends for this year. Have you ever heard
of micro retiring?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I have not.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
You know you would put you last year?
Speaker 5 (00:56):
You putting you on so many new terms that I'm
you know, I should have been up on and I
was not, but I'm not.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
What's micro retiring? I know you about the educating Well,
it's for people who feel burnout at work, right, so
they take some time off from work before they jump
back in it. Wow, they won't return. But they call
it micro retiring because people are burnout. They realize they
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need to step back and all of that.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
I like micro retiring, but I ain't micro retiring from anything.
I'm full on retirement when it's my time. I'm not
microing anything.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
We call that might go.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
I might go to retirement early and I might not.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
AI is really really taking over, whether you like it
or not. Some people are letting AI do everything. And
when I say every thing, relationships, everything, they're just relying
on it too much.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
I'm gonna tell you I'm probably one of those people
because I'm a tech head, and I know I don't
let AI control my relationships because then you.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
You know, you're looking for hold on that.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
Because there was a song out some years ago called
computer love, so maybe computer love is the real thing now.
So but yeah, some people are use letting AI control
exactly how they move.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I know I use it a lot, but yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
Don't know if I'm letting the control my every movement.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Okay. Another trend. Men are hungry, so they're going on dates.
Oh and they're only going on to get the meal.
I mean a man, oh man, this is bad. Is
that what we are? Is that what a dating scene
is now? It's terrible.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
Men are going on dates because the men want to eat.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Now, yeah, like they'll go out with you know they're
going out with you. But y'all they going for that
meal you think.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
Is it okay if I if I asked my wife
to take me out to eat so I can get
me a meal if I'm hungry.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Nope, it doesn't refer to you. I'm talking about these
new men. These new men relationships are going on dates.
They're only going. They're only going because they want a meal.
They do not care about that person that they are
going to dinner. I feel bad for the women. I'm sorry,
I feel bad for y'all.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
But fellas, Yeah, go ahead, only get that meal because
they do with us or it only get that meal.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Finally, another thing, this is more on the etiquette. If
you are having a dinner party right and you're expecting
people to pick up the tab. People are having these
dinner parties out right, but they don't tell you that
you got to call up money at the end. Is
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it good etiquette or bad etiquette? Like say, oh, I'm
having a party and so and so a restaurant. You
get there, you eat, you having a good time, and
then I say you got to give me your share
of the bill.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
I'm already expecting to pay when I go there. You are, yeah,
because I'm not going if you having a dinner party
at the restaurant, if it's at the like, if you're
having it at a at a venue, then I'm not
expecting to pay anything unless I'm buying a gift. But
if you have it at a at a restaurant, I'm
expecting I gotta pay my part. That's just unless you say,
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unless you specify in the rs VP that it's your treat,
So unless they say it's their treat, and I'm expecting
me to pay my part.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Arlene fell there, Glassy Brown Cookies is here, Mikero retiring, Arlene,
are you familiar with that term?
Speaker 6 (04:57):
You only have the the best term, micro retiring your
semi retired, like you retired a little bit, but then
you find a little part time.
Speaker 7 (05:08):
Gig on the side.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
No, the micro was when you take off for a
little bit because you burn out because you're tired, but
then you're ready to come back. You may you may.
Speaker 7 (05:24):
Take a leave of absence from work.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yeah you're going to come back, but you but you're
but you're tired, you're tired.
Speaker 7 (05:31):
If that's the case, then the whole world is micro
retired because people take it mental lapses and abscesses at
the checkout count at the shop.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Right, some people these are like the trends of twenty
twenty five, y'all letting AI do absolutely everything? Your thoughts
for so?
Speaker 7 (05:54):
Okay, so my thoughts on that. So I actually love
working with some things with AI. Right, But because I
am of that generation X, I have learned. I was taught,
you know, by teachers. I've read books, So for me
it's not really a big deal. But for the new
generation coming up, who don't, They don't bring homework home.
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You know, everything is being taught by computers. Nobody is
reading the book, nobody is doing anything. Everything is being
done by AI. We're raising we have AI can have
the tendency to raise a bunch of idiots.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Daddy Dex is joining us, and we're talking about the
trends of twenty twenty five. Are you ready? Yes? Of
course AI is taking over our lives. Unfortunately, how do
you feel about that? See, it still scares me, but
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now it's kind of like overtaking almost everything in our lives.
Speaker 8 (06:58):
I saw an AI am of Barack Obama and Donald
Trump hugging and they gave each other a kiss on
the chief and people were like, look at this, Barack
Obama is kissing Donald Trump. And I said, like the
fact that you guys don't realize that you're reporting this
is if it's true and it's AI, it really concerns
me because like that has really serious implications. And when
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people like see and do it and repost things like that,
we're not educated enough as a society to run with AI.
We really are not, because people believe literally anything.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
You are so right, and that's what scares me about AI.
People just believe stuff. And it was like, use your brain,
that's not real or true. Another trend I love trends.
Men are hungry. Now you're saying, what do you mean
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we hungry? Men are hungry?
Speaker 9 (08:00):
Like are men doing the thing where they go on
dates and like waiting for the women to pay?
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Yes, and they really and they really don't like the woman,
but they gonna go for that meal.
Speaker 9 (08:14):
I don't know though, because I mean, we've been knew
about the homosexuals, so like this.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Is this is the game plan?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Well, then trying to get your money, Well it is
it is a game plan, but there some of it
being more boulder about it, like this is are gonna
tell you, I'm just here for the grub. They ain't
trying to move in with you, they're not trying to
live with you. They are there for the grub.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
So you are hungry enough to go on a date
with a woman just so.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
She can pay for you to go and eat. Yeah,
And there's no way, there's.
Speaker 9 (08:49):
Just no way that all men put their pants on
one leg at a time.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
We're not all the same, like we.
Speaker 9 (08:54):
Are not the same species, and I don't want to
be compared to these people.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Desi Neil is joining us, and we're talking about the
trends of twenty twenty five. Desi. Men are hungry, they
want to eat. Yeah, that doesn't surprise you. They're not
looking for love, looking, they're not looking for love. They
don't want to move in with you, but they want
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that meal. They want you to take them and sender
city to the hot new restaurant so they can eat.
Speaker 10 (09:27):
No wait, wait, wait, so they want to be taken
out or they just want to eat because I beat.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
The ones want to come over the house and eat
my home cooking. Well, now, you don't now now. They're
not ready to come into your house to know that
you can burn away. Well, they want to go to
a restaurant. You meet someone and they say, hey, I
want to pop you know, to this place on Delaware
Avenue and there is no future. They're hungry. They're going
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to eat the meal and say thank you for a
good time. The rolls are a birth. The rolls are
reverse thing. Have you heard of micro retiring? This is
when people take a break when they get burnout. They
feel burnout and they take a break. They come back,
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but they take a break to kind of like catch
their breath, maybe say I want to enjoy my life
a little more. You know, everything is stressing me out.
But micro retiring is a thing.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Yeah, let it be.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
So I love all of that. And AI is taking
over everything. And this is a message to people who
want to believe every AI fake story that they see.
That stuff is not true. It's really you got to
really have a brain to know when someone is trying
to get you to go along, get you to believe.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (10:55):
Yeah, I saw an article, Auntie, and it was saying
that when you are looking at an image.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Say like on social media or in anything.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Look at the eyes.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Make sure that the eyes are straight.
Speaker 10 (11:10):
Make sure that like normal human responses, you can see
those things, because what the only thing AI can't do
is create those natural responses, because it's all artificial.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Right.
Speaker 10 (11:23):
And so I was looking at this picture and I
was staring into the eyes, and really, the closer I looked,
the eyes just look so mechanical, like there are some
things that they just can't get right.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
So we stopped.
Speaker 10 (11:35):
We really do have to stop and pay attention and
really look at these images to see. But it really
is scary because AI really is taking over. As a
matter of fact, somebody told me I need to AI
my voice.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Right?
Speaker 10 (11:48):
Yeah, it's like a way of patent, and then we
don't have to do it ourselves.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Nope, they ain't gonna take our jobs. These boyes cannot
be replaced. It's a brand new year, and of course
there are brand new trends and the trends of twenty
twenty five. The one I find the funniest are men
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are hungry rescreening is a senior at Saint Joe's University.
Men are going out. They don't necessarily like that person.
They going out with, but they want to eat. They
want to go to a nice restaurant. They don't want
to move in with you. They're not doing declarations of love,
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but they want to eat your thoughts.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Yes, the food is good.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
The food is good.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
You know.
Speaker 9 (12:45):
That's something that I've actually that's so funny. That is
a great trend because I've noticed, like if my stomach
or appetite have gotten bigger, Like I just see more
and more food. I'm just like, I gotta have that.
I gotta try it. And I feel like social media
is definitely a help to that because you go on
you go on social media and you just see like
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the most craziest foods where you're like, that is so big.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Back, but I need to try it.
Speaker 9 (13:13):
Okay, Sorry, Yeah, men love, men love to eat.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Okay, so they'll go They're going out with women that
they don't necessarily like, but they want to eat.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Hey, if it.
Speaker 9 (13:22):
Could try a new place.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
You gotta do what you gotta do, man, Like.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Okay, let's talk about AI taking over everything. There are
so many instances of AI fake news, just fake, fake,
fake all around your thoughts.
Speaker 9 (13:44):
Yeah, So AI is something that we talk about often,
especially here on the university level, because it seems that
AI just came into play and the teachers didn't know
what to do. You know, because AI can do your homework.
They can do so much and instead of like at first,
teachers were treating it as plagiarism, but now it's gotten
to a point where it's like you have to accept
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it's here and accept the ways that we can just
utilize the AI in order to better our assignments and stuff.
So that's something that we really talk about a lot
about how we can utilize AI as a tool, because
AI can't do everything that people try to depict the can.
It is only a tool. In order to make AI work,
you have to input the commands and stuff like that.
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And I feel like we can't get so scared about
AI because it's already here. It's just now we have
to just reshape how we work, how we live so
that we can utilize this tool to help us. It's
like when the calculator become a thing, that's all it is.
It's just another calculator, another tool that we just have
to learn how to use to improve our lives.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Some of the trends this New Year twenty twenty five
we've got sex doctor Heather, and some people are letting
AI do everything your thoughts, I mean everything.
Speaker 11 (15:04):
Everything, you know. Somebody I just got an email for
one of my employees today, actually like ten minutes before this,
who says that something that she wrote was bounce back.
She's trying to apply for some kind of license or whatever,
and she said it bounced back. But then I use
this something something it's AI, right, And she said, what
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do you think? And I was like, oh, so you
let AI write it for you?
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Crazy to me, I can't imagine.
Speaker 12 (15:33):
Patty.
Speaker 11 (15:34):
Hey, I am very open to new beginnings and like
the new stuff, right, I appreciate it, but I'm going
to say go through it with caution, like you should everything.
Do diligence of research, and don't just look at one thing.
Research and make sure this is something that you can
stand behind no matter what you're using AI for.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
You know.
Speaker 11 (15:58):
I just don't want people to get so into AI
that they forget how to write their own sentences, because
look at what happened with the kids. Kids can't write anymore,
you know, cursive or even print for that matter, because
they're so used to using computers and letting the computer
write for them. So I say, make sure you have
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boundaries around the AI and what you're choosing to let
AI do for you.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Men are hungry? Ask me what I mean.
Speaker 7 (16:31):
What do you mean by men are hungry?
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Well, a lot of men are just going out on dates.
A lot of times they do not care about the person.
They're not interested, but they're never going to get some
good grub and a good meal, so they're going out.
And yeah, they want the women to put that bill.
Speaker 11 (16:54):
Oh shoot, I'll see that part right there. That's the
part that is a little suspect, because why are you
going out for women to put the bills? So I'm
all about equality, right or equity. So if you know
that you want to go on a date with somebody
and you're not interested in them long term, be honest
with them. Some people are open to that.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Some people just.
Speaker 11 (17:17):
Want somebody to go out with. Let them know.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Hey, we can go Dutch or whatever the term is.
Speaker 11 (17:23):
Now you can pay and I can pay my portion.
Let's get two separate bills. And let me tell you, Patty,
nowadays you can get ten separate bills. I remember there
was a time when the waitress, a waiter or person
would look at you like you're crazy, Like, no, you
can't split this bill.
Speaker 12 (17:37):
We only take one card.
Speaker 11 (17:39):
So nowadays you can do this. So be honest with
the person. Don't and if you don't like them, don't
go out to lunch or dinner.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
This goes to my women.
Speaker 11 (17:49):
If a man is telling you you need to pay,
take him out for some Boba tea. Okay, you don't
need to go to dinner or lunch because guess what
in that little.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Tea you can.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Figure out if he's serious or not.
Speaker 11 (18:00):
Or if this person is serious who however they identify.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
You know, don't go out with.
Speaker 11 (18:05):
Someone to dinner or lunch that you haven't had a
video chat with or you've not seen in person number
two right, and make sure you are attracted to them.
Go some cough, get some coffee, get a donut. You
don't have to go to dinner or lunch. I think
that's that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
You know.
Speaker 11 (18:23):
I tell my clients all the time to bet the
person before you go spending money on them.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
You on fire today the trends of twenty twenty five,
so what is happening. One thing that's happening is micro retiring.
We've got author Kim read here Optimus always wins. Have
you ever heard of micro retiring?
Speaker 7 (18:49):
I have not, So tell me what is this?
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Okay, micro retiring? It is a real thing. It's that
something I that I just made up. Micro Retiring are
when people step back from the workforce. They're coming back,
but they're burnt out and they're tired. Now, a lot
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of gen zs do this a lot. That's when I
want to put out there. Gen Z's be doing this
and they're criticized, you know, for taking months at a
time to micro retire because they want to focus on themselves.
They're like, I'm still young, I'm going to make the
most of my youth. Your thoughts on this.
Speaker 7 (19:36):
Well, let me tell you so. You know, Patty is funny.
So first of all, I love that. I love the
term right. You always find these great terms, and I
cannot believe I'm in hr right, I am in corporate.
I work with corporate clients, and I cannot believe I
have not heard this term. So you are the coolest
for putting me down. So now I'm going to go
with all this knowledge right back to my pilot. So
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thank you girl. Okay, let me get that out of
the way first. The second is you know what you know.
I recently had to order a Social Security card, you know,
just misplaced mine. So I went on the social security website.
And so you can you know, when you go on
to social security website, you create a profile. You can
see every you know, you could see everything about you know,
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your soial security you know. And so because I worked
in corporate before I started my own firm, I worked
in corporate for about twenty five years. So I have,
you know, kind of I guess you for a better,
better choice of wars. I you know, I've got I've
invested in myself right in insocid security. And so I
looked at you can look at your profile to say,
if you're retired today, what would your Social security benefits be.
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So I did that because I wanted to see, you
know what if I retired today and you know, and
you can't collect SOB security to you over sixty two,
but you know when you retire. But if I was
sixty seven years old, I saw the amount that I
would get and I said to myself, Oh my god,
my ass got to work. Ooh can I say ask Patty?
Speaker 12 (21:05):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (21:06):
But that was like I've got to work, Patty, for
what you know, for what my lifestyle is or just
the price of eggs. Cow, I gotta get my life together.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
I have to work.
Speaker 7 (21:18):
So you know, so this this these gen exerts, gen
whatever that is doing this, they haven't gone to the
grocery store. They must haven't gone to the grocery store
and saw the price of eggs because you cannot dip
and pretty soon, Patty, quite honestly, you're not going to
be able to dip in and out of corporate America.
You're not going to be able to dip in and
out of your job. Because the way we are moving
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right now, and we saw this within the last two weeks,
it is going to get very real. So I think
that this whole micro retiring, that's a cool concept in
a different in a different timeframe, right or a different
season of the nation. But you know, I think that
you'll get a real reality check when you go on
to the security website and see if you retire at
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age sixty two or age sixty four, age sixty seven,
what your monthly benefit will be. And that is what
you have to live on unless you work our time
and you have a pension or all those great blessings
if you do if you're able to do that. But
most Americans have to live on Social Security, so you
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might think twice if you dip in and out of
this micro retirement phase. So uh now, baby, I gotta work.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
She's a dula, She's fabulous. I just adore this woman.
Lexi is joining us and we're talking about the trends. Lexi,
you know trends.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Yes, yes, and I love you for.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Okay, men wanna eat? What do I mean by what
men want to eat?
Speaker 4 (23:06):
I'm scared to ask.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Okay, it's a new trend where the man might not
be attracted to you, men don't even like you, but
he gonna go out to dinner and you're gonna pay
for it. Oh wow, Yeah, that's a thing, Lexi, it
really is a thing, of course, when I'm saying all men,
but there's a new breed of men and they still
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want to go out and they want you to pay
for it. And it's like, well, you're having my company, right,
and I'm gonna eat this good piece of steak or
this lobster. You're gonna pay for it.
Speaker 13 (23:43):
They're like companions like those those Oh wow, okay.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
I can see. I can see that I got you
with this one.
Speaker 13 (23:55):
That is so interesting to me because women have been like,
oh my gosh, we've been crucified not to be as extreme,
but for wanting to do that, right, Like, oh, I
just want to go out.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
I may not be as interested in.
Speaker 13 (24:07):
Them, but you know, I enjoy his company or companionship
things like that.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
So this is wild to me. Yes, micro retiring is big.
Micro retiring Okay, more, okay. One this falls with gen
Z workers. They're paving the way for the next generation.
They're trying to prioritize a healthy work life balance. They're
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going to retire in the middle. They're going to take
six months off to enjoy their life then return to
the work.
Speaker 6 (24:42):
For us, I could see.
Speaker 7 (24:44):
I definitely have noticed that.
Speaker 13 (24:46):
I definitely have noticed that people taken Now, I didn't
know what the language was for, right, so it's always
interesting to learn that.
Speaker 6 (24:53):
But I have seen people do that.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
M How long did they take all of it? How
long have they taken?
Speaker 13 (25:01):
Probably about that time frame, but more I've seen about
a year because there's like this self reflection that's.
Speaker 14 (25:06):
Happening where they're like, hey, maybe I'm not as interested
or not.
Speaker 13 (25:10):
As motivated as I was, So let me step back,
let me do some reevaluating, and then go back into
the space in a different environment too. And you know
when I noticed that shift, when I also saw the
shift in the workplace where employers weren't as necessarily as
loyal and so that impacted their loyalty. M.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
They're saying that doing a micro retirement might extend your
life because you're prioritizing taking that trip or just taking
time off for your mental health. There are many pros
and cons to this.
Speaker 13 (25:45):
Yeah, I can definitely see that. I mean, especially when
you start having these gaps in your history without really
having something sufficient to also support it.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
So I can see that. M. I gotta tell you,
I've never ever thought about micro retiring as a baby boomer.
But and I've had great bosses, I've always loved where
I've worked. Yes, but I can see people being unhappy
and saying deuces, because we are there is a deuces
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generation out here. They will leave a job in a minute.
Would I worry?
Speaker 13 (26:24):
And you know, when you look at all these alternatives,
I mean, it may be a hustle to do it,
but between uber and photo dot Com or snap dot
com or whatever it is and instacart, Like, there's so
many other ways to earn.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
A living for yourself too.
Speaker 13 (26:39):
I think the comfort and ease sometimes though of that
regular job is what kept people tied in. But if
that doesn't move you for some of these other generations, yeah, I.
Speaker 12 (26:49):
See it too.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
We're talking about the trends for this year twenty twenty five,
and one of them that a lot of people, it's
like a real hot topic is micro retiring. There's this
trend rising among gen z and they're really prioritizing a
healthy work life. Villains they're taking off on six months
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to a year to focus on their health. Do you
see this is for gen z's because baby boomers alike,
we got these bills to pay. So there's definitely there is.
There's hell no, I couldn't do this.
Speaker 12 (27:30):
Child, Patty, And you know, I almost speak to the
opposite side of that, reclaim your time, but after it's done,
get your behind back to work.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Don't spend too much time out. But I am I'm sorry.
I do understand the element of you know, you got
to get out.
Speaker 12 (27:46):
There and hustle, and you can't let nobody out hustle
you but after a while we don't realize as we
get older how that mindset.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
A lot of times it's a detriment to our bodies
because we see it time.
Speaker 12 (28:01):
And time again where our bodies are telling us like
you gotta slow it down, baby, slow it down.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Hey, I'm giving you this sign for a reason. Slow
it down.
Speaker 12 (28:10):
Pay attention to it, because I don't want you to
be sat down longer than you have to be down
the long run. And at the end of these days,
a lot of these corporations and we see how it's
happening to day child, they rolling back everything. Most of
the times they do not care about you for the
long run. So at the end of the day, if
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you have that PTO, if you have that FMLA, I'm from.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
The school of now, now today, LaToya Charlton.
Speaker 12 (28:39):
Twenty years ago, I did not think this way, but
now baby, take your time, take your time, take your time.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
They're okay, they're talking about it could extend your life.
People are planning their rest and micro retirement. If you've
never heard of it before, you heard it here. It
is definitely a real thing.
Speaker 7 (29:06):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
The new trends of this year, new things that are happening.
We've got moche La Wrenz. She's joining us. You know.
I love to bring you guys the trends, and one
of the trends is micro micro retiring. This is retiring.
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This is a trend that is really popular amongst gen zs,
all about prioritizing that work life balance. They're going to
be outnumbering baby boomers and in just a few years.
But they're changing the game. They're not afraid to say
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I need a break. I'm gonna come back, but I
need a break. Your thoughts micro retiring, well cha chatter.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
I got so many thoughts about that micro retirement.
Speaker 14 (30:07):
I think we I think that basically goes back to
you understanding that in order for you to put your
best foot forward in the world, you have to have
time and space to replenish, right, And so micro retirement
for me looks like something that I try to practice
on a daily basis, you know, with like, okay, taking
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a few hours of.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
The day just to do what makes me happy. I
don't know if I can, I don't know if my
mind can totally wrap around what that looks like.
Speaker 14 (30:38):
Because retirements in its traditional form and what it looks
like in twenty twenty five. You know what I'm saying, Like,
we don't know if Social Security going to be here
and all those things. So I think micro retirement just
for me translates into and I don't know what the
kids are saying, but translates into, hey.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
Take some time for yourself. Not just on your two
week vacations that your boss gives you all, but every day,
find time and every.
Speaker 14 (31:02):
Day to retire from life and the stuff that keeps
you busy and.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Pour into yourself. That's how I look at it now.
Speaker 14 (31:10):
I might even got over complicated with it right there, Patty,
but that's how I see it.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
I can't keep up with all of the turned trends,
so I'm interpret them the way I do, and that's
how I see it.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Okay, there's another tread, and there's another tread. Boll Men
want to eat. They're not they're not romantically interested. It
may not be their type, but they want to go
out to that restaurant they want. They want to go
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out to dinner. They want to they want you to
pay for it. They want their good lobster and trimp
and that steak. But they're not interested. But they're gonna
go along for that meal, that this could be a
younger people thing, or maybe some of the pop opposite
dipping as well.
Speaker 14 (31:59):
But men, I think you know what I think is happening.
I think man, I think men has figned. They've finally
gotten hits to the fact that women have done that
for so long, because women could be disinterested in a man, honey,
and and have and have a date Monday through Friday
just to go out to uh and have a good
steak dinner every night and have and have no plans
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or intentions of really seeing that man, you know, for
the long term. So men was like, you know what,
it's getting costly to day out here. I'm dropping to
three hundred dollars every day. So now they have turned
the tables and they're saying, no, you take me out,
you buy me a steak dinner.
Speaker 7 (32:38):
You do.
Speaker 14 (32:39):
And because it's so few of them and so many
of us women are like, well, I guess I can't
buying a dinner here, and they are here, and so
they they're just getting hits. So they are superior in
the sense and in a quantity sense. They have more
numbers than we do. And so it's a it's a
it's a man's market. If that makes sense, I can
only relate it back to the Really, it's a man's market,
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meaning they have the pick of the litter.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
We don't. So now they want us to treat them
and want and dine them. Guess what. Take me off
the group chat because I won't be doing that anytime too.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
I gotta tell you, I absolutely love great conversation. And
when I say that I've got some of the best
voices on this podcast, I mean it. I hope you
enjoyed the conversation. Trends are always funny to me. I'm
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
Welcome to the podcast conversation Patty and the Millennials. I'm
a radio mat in Philadelphia who loves conversation and what
you're gonna find with this podcast. We have great conversations
and get deep with it and we talk about everything
millennials and Gen X and baby baby boomer millennials. There's
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so many MILLENNIALSX ten Z. Yeah, there's so many. Yeah,
it's so many. Uncle Oh is joining us and some
of the trends for this year. Have you ever heard
of micro retiring?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I have not.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
You know you would put you last year?
Speaker 5 (00:56):
You putting you on so many new terms that I'm
you know, I should have been up on and I
was not, but I'm not.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
What's micro retiring? I know you about the educating Well,
it's for people who feel burnout at work, right, so
they take some time off from work before they jump
back in it. Wow, they won't return. But they call
it micro retiring because people are burnout. They realize they
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need to step back and all of that.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
I like micro retiring, but I ain't micro retiring from anything.
I'm full on retirement when it's my time. I'm not
microing anything.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
We call that might go.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
I might go to retirement early and I might not.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
AI is really really taking over, whether you like it
or not. Some people are letting AI do everything. And
when I say every thing, relationships, everything, they're just relying
on it too much.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
I'm gonna tell you I'm probably one of those people
because I'm a tech head, and I know I don't
let AI control my relationships because then you.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
You know, you're looking for hold on that.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
Because there was a song out some years ago called
computer love, so maybe computer love is the real thing now.
So but yeah, some people are use letting AI control
exactly how they move.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I know I use it a lot, but yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
Don't know if I'm letting the control my every movement.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Okay. Another trend. Men are hungry, so they're going on dates.
Oh and they're only going on to get the meal.
I mean a man, oh man, this is bad. Is
that what we are? Is that what a dating scene
is now? It's terrible.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
Men are going on dates because the men want to eat.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Now, yeah, like they'll go out with you know they're
going out with you. But y'all they going for that
meal you think.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
Is it okay if I if I asked my wife
to take me out to eat so I can get
me a meal if I'm hungry.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Nope, it doesn't refer to you. I'm talking about these
new men. These new men relationships are going on dates.
They're only going. They're only going because they want a meal.
They do not care about that person that they are
going to dinner. I feel bad for the women. I'm sorry,
I feel bad for y'all.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
But fellas, Yeah, go ahead, only get that meal because
they do with us or it only get that meal.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Finally, another thing, this is more on the etiquette. If
you are having a dinner party right and you're expecting
people to pick up the tab. People are having these
dinner parties out right, but they don't tell you that
you got to call up money at the end. Is
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it good etiquette or bad etiquette? Like say, oh, I'm
having a party and so and so a restaurant. You
get there, you eat, you having a good time, and
then I say you got to give me your share
of the bill.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
I'm already expecting to pay when I go there. You are, yeah,
because I'm not going if you having a dinner party
at the restaurant, if it's at the like, if you're
having it at a at a venue, then I'm not
expecting to pay anything unless I'm buying a gift. But
if you have it at a at a restaurant, I'm
expecting I gotta pay my part. That's just unless you say,
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unless you specify in the rs VP that it's your treat,
So unless they say it's their treat, and I'm expecting
me to pay my part.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Arlene fell there, Glassy Brown Cookies is here, Mikero retiring, Arlene,
are you familiar with that term?
Speaker 6 (04:57):
You only have the the best term, micro retiring your
semi retired, like you retired a little bit, but then
you find a little part time.
Speaker 7 (05:08):
Gig on the side.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
No, the micro was when you take off for a
little bit because you burn out because you're tired, but
then you're ready to come back. You may you may.
Speaker 7 (05:24):
Take a leave of absence from work.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yeah you're going to come back, but you but you're
but you're tired, you're tired.
Speaker 7 (05:31):
If that's the case, then the whole world is micro
retired because people take it mental lapses and abscesses at
the checkout count at the shop.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Right, some people these are like the trends of twenty
twenty five, y'all letting AI do absolutely everything? Your thoughts
for so?
Speaker 7 (05:54):
Okay, so my thoughts on that. So I actually love
working with some things with AI. Right, But because I
am of that generation X, I have learned. I was taught,
you know, by teachers. I've read books, So for me
it's not really a big deal. But for the new
generation coming up, who don't, They don't bring homework home.
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You know, everything is being taught by computers. Nobody is
reading the book, nobody is doing anything. Everything is being
done by AI. We're raising we have AI can have
the tendency to raise a bunch of idiots.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Daddy Dex is joining us, and we're talking about the
trends of twenty twenty five. Are you ready? Yes? Of
course AI is taking over our lives. Unfortunately, how do
you feel about that? See, it still scares me, but
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now it's kind of like overtaking almost everything in our lives.
Speaker 8 (06:58):
I saw an AI am of Barack Obama and Donald
Trump hugging and they gave each other a kiss on
the chief and people were like, look at this, Barack
Obama is kissing Donald Trump. And I said, like the
fact that you guys don't realize that you're reporting this
is if it's true and it's AI, it really concerns
me because like that has really serious implications. And when
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people like see and do it and repost things like that,
we're not educated enough as a society to run with AI.
We really are not, because people believe literally anything.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
You are so right, and that's what scares me about AI.
People just believe stuff. And it was like, use your brain,
that's not real or true. Another trend I love trends.
Men are hungry. Now you're saying, what do you mean
(07:54):
we hungry? Men are hungry?
Speaker 9 (08:00):
Like are men doing the thing where they go on
dates and like waiting for the women to pay?
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Yes, and they really and they really don't like the woman,
but they gonna go for that meal.
Speaker 9 (08:14):
I don't know though, because I mean, we've been knew
about the homosexuals, so like this.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Is this is the game plan?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Well, then trying to get your money, Well it is
it is a game plan, but there some of it
being more boulder about it, like this is are gonna
tell you, I'm just here for the grub. They ain't
trying to move in with you, they're not trying to
live with you. They are there for the grub.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
So you are hungry enough to go on a date
with a woman just so.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
She can pay for you to go and eat. Yeah,
And there's no way, there's.
Speaker 9 (08:49):
Just no way that all men put their pants on
one leg at a time.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
We're not all the same, like we.
Speaker 9 (08:54):
Are not the same species, and I don't want to
be compared to these people.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Desi Neil is joining us, and we're talking about the
trends of twenty twenty five. Desi. Men are hungry, they
want to eat. Yeah, that doesn't surprise you. They're not
looking for love, looking, they're not looking for love. They
don't want to move in with you, but they want
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that meal. They want you to take them and sender
city to the hot new restaurant so they can eat.
Speaker 10 (09:27):
No wait, wait, wait, so they want to be taken
out or they just want to eat because I beat.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
The ones want to come over the house and eat
my home cooking. Well, now, you don't now now. They're
not ready to come into your house to know that
you can burn away. Well, they want to go to
a restaurant. You meet someone and they say, hey, I
want to pop you know, to this place on Delaware
Avenue and there is no future. They're hungry. They're going
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to eat the meal and say thank you for a
good time. The rolls are a birth. The rolls are
reverse thing. Have you heard of micro retiring? This is
when people take a break when they get burnout. They
feel burnout and they take a break. They come back,
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but they take a break to kind of like catch
their breath, maybe say I want to enjoy my life
a little more. You know, everything is stressing me out.
But micro retiring is a thing.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Yeah, let it be.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
So I love all of that. And AI is taking
over everything. And this is a message to people who
want to believe every AI fake story that they see.
That stuff is not true. It's really you got to
really have a brain to know when someone is trying
to get you to go along, get you to believe.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (10:55):
Yeah, I saw an article, Auntie, and it was saying
that when you are looking at an image.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Say like on social media or in anything.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Look at the eyes.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Make sure that the eyes are straight.
Speaker 10 (11:10):
Make sure that like normal human responses, you can see
those things, because what the only thing AI can't do
is create those natural responses, because it's all artificial.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Right.
Speaker 10 (11:23):
And so I was looking at this picture and I
was staring into the eyes, and really, the closer I looked,
the eyes just look so mechanical, like there are some
things that they just can't get right.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
So we stopped.
Speaker 10 (11:35):
We really do have to stop and pay attention and
really look at these images to see. But it really
is scary because AI really is taking over. As a
matter of fact, somebody told me I need to AI
my voice.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Right?
Speaker 10 (11:48):
Yeah, it's like a way of patent, and then we
don't have to do it ourselves.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Nope, they ain't gonna take our jobs. These boyes cannot
be replaced. It's a brand new year, and of course
there are brand new trends and the trends of twenty
twenty five. The one I find the funniest are men
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are hungry rescreening is a senior at Saint Joe's University.
Men are going out. They don't necessarily like that person.
They going out with, but they want to eat. They
want to go to a nice restaurant. They don't want
to move in with you. They're not doing declarations of love,
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but they want to eat your thoughts.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Yes, the food is good.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
The food is good.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
You know.
Speaker 9 (12:45):
That's something that I've actually that's so funny. That is
a great trend because I've noticed, like if my stomach
or appetite have gotten bigger, Like I just see more
and more food. I'm just like, I gotta have that.
I gotta try it. And I feel like social media
is definitely a help to that because you go on
you go on social media and you just see like
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the most craziest foods where you're like, that is so big.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Back, but I need to try it.
Speaker 9 (13:13):
Okay, Sorry, Yeah, men love, men love to eat.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Okay, so they'll go They're going out with women that
they don't necessarily like, but they want to eat.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Hey, if it.
Speaker 9 (13:22):
Could try a new place.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
You gotta do what you gotta do, man, Like.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Okay, let's talk about AI taking over everything. There are
so many instances of AI fake news, just fake, fake,
fake all around your thoughts.
Speaker 9 (13:44):
Yeah, So AI is something that we talk about often,
especially here on the university level, because it seems that
AI just came into play and the teachers didn't know
what to do. You know, because AI can do your homework.
They can do so much and instead of like at first,
teachers were treating it as plagiarism, but now it's gotten
to a point where it's like you have to accept
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it's here and accept the ways that we can just
utilize the AI in order to better our assignments and stuff.
So that's something that we really talk about a lot
about how we can utilize AI as a tool, because
AI can't do everything that people try to depict the can.
It is only a tool. In order to make AI work,
you have to input the commands and stuff like that.
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And I feel like we can't get so scared about
AI because it's already here. It's just now we have
to just reshape how we work, how we live so
that we can utilize this tool to help us. It's
like when the calculator become a thing, that's all it is.
It's just another calculator, another tool that we just have
to learn how to use to improve our lives.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Some of the trends this New Year twenty twenty five
we've got sex doctor Heather, and some people are letting
AI do everything your thoughts, I mean everything.
Speaker 11 (15:04):
Everything, you know. Somebody I just got an email for
one of my employees today, actually like ten minutes before this,
who says that something that she wrote was bounce back.
She's trying to apply for some kind of license or whatever,
and she said it bounced back. But then I use
this something something it's AI, right, And she said, what
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do you think? And I was like, oh, so you
let AI write it for you?
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Crazy to me, I can't imagine.
Speaker 12 (15:33):
Patty.
Speaker 11 (15:34):
Hey, I am very open to new beginnings and like
the new stuff, right, I appreciate it, but I'm going
to say go through it with caution, like you should everything.
Do diligence of research, and don't just look at one thing.
Research and make sure this is something that you can
stand behind no matter what you're using AI for.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
You know.
Speaker 11 (15:58):
I just don't want people to get so into AI
that they forget how to write their own sentences, because
look at what happened with the kids. Kids can't write anymore,
you know, cursive or even print for that matter, because
they're so used to using computers and letting the computer
write for them. So I say, make sure you have
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boundaries around the AI and what you're choosing to let
AI do for you.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Men are hungry? Ask me what I mean.
Speaker 7 (16:31):
What do you mean by men are hungry?
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Well, a lot of men are just going out on dates.
A lot of times they do not care about the person.
They're not interested, but they're never going to get some
good grub and a good meal, so they're going out.
And yeah, they want the women to put that bill.
Speaker 11 (16:54):
Oh shoot, I'll see that part right there. That's the
part that is a little suspect, because why are you
going out for women to put the bills? So I'm
all about equality, right or equity. So if you know
that you want to go on a date with somebody
and you're not interested in them long term, be honest
with them. Some people are open to that.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Some people just.
Speaker 11 (17:17):
Want somebody to go out with. Let them know.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Hey, we can go Dutch or whatever the term is.
Speaker 11 (17:23):
Now you can pay and I can pay my portion.
Let's get two separate bills. And let me tell you, Patty,
nowadays you can get ten separate bills. I remember there
was a time when the waitress, a waiter or person
would look at you like you're crazy, Like, no, you
can't split this bill.
Speaker 12 (17:37):
We only take one card.
Speaker 11 (17:39):
So nowadays you can do this. So be honest with
the person. Don't and if you don't like them, don't
go out to lunch or dinner.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
This goes to my women.
Speaker 11 (17:49):
If a man is telling you you need to pay,
take him out for some Boba tea. Okay, you don't
need to go to dinner or lunch because guess what
in that little.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Tea you can.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Figure out if he's serious or not.
Speaker 11 (18:00):
Or if this person is serious who however they identify.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
You know, don't go out with.
Speaker 11 (18:05):
Someone to dinner or lunch that you haven't had a
video chat with or you've not seen in person number
two right, and make sure you are attracted to them.
Go some cough, get some coffee, get a donut. You
don't have to go to dinner or lunch. I think
that's that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
You know.
Speaker 11 (18:23):
I tell my clients all the time to bet the
person before you go spending money on them.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
You on fire today the trends of twenty twenty five,
so what is happening. One thing that's happening is micro retiring.
We've got author Kim read here Optimus always wins. Have
you ever heard of micro retiring?
Speaker 7 (18:49):
I have not, So tell me what is this?
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Okay, micro retiring? It is a real thing. It's that
something I that I just made up. Micro Retiring are
when people step back from the workforce. They're coming back,
but they're burnt out and they're tired. Now, a lot
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of gen zs do this a lot. That's when I
want to put out there. Gen Z's be doing this
and they're criticized, you know, for taking months at a
time to micro retire because they want to focus on themselves.
They're like, I'm still young, I'm going to make the
most of my youth. Your thoughts on this.
Speaker 7 (19:36):
Well, let me tell you so. You know, Patty is funny.
So first of all, I love that. I love the
term right. You always find these great terms, and I
cannot believe I'm in hr right, I am in corporate.
I work with corporate clients, and I cannot believe I
have not heard this term. So you are the coolest
for putting me down. So now I'm going to go
with all this knowledge right back to my pilot. So
(19:57):
thank you girl. Okay, let me get that out of
the way first. The second is you know what you know.
I recently had to order a Social Security card, you know,
just misplaced mine. So I went on the social security website.
And so you can you know, when you go on
to social security website, you create a profile. You can
see every you know, you could see everything about you know,
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your soial security you know. And so because I worked
in corporate before I started my own firm, I worked
in corporate for about twenty five years. So I have,
you know, kind of I guess you for a better,
better choice of wars. I you know, I've got I've
invested in myself right in insocid security. And so I
looked at you can look at your profile to say,
if you're retired today, what would your Social security benefits be.
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So I did that because I wanted to see, you
know what if I retired today and you know, and
you can't collect SOB security to you over sixty two,
but you know when you retire. But if I was
sixty seven years old, I saw the amount that I
would get and I said to myself, Oh my god,
my ass got to work. Ooh can I say ask Patty?
Speaker 12 (21:05):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (21:06):
But that was like I've got to work, Patty, for
what you know, for what my lifestyle is or just
the price of eggs. Cow, I gotta get my life together.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
I have to work.
Speaker 7 (21:18):
So you know, so this this these gen exerts, gen
whatever that is doing this, they haven't gone to the
grocery store. They must haven't gone to the grocery store
and saw the price of eggs because you cannot dip
and pretty soon, Patty, quite honestly, you're not going to
be able to dip in and out of corporate America.
You're not going to be able to dip in and
out of your job. Because the way we are moving
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right now, and we saw this within the last two weeks,
it is going to get very real. So I think
that this whole micro retiring, that's a cool concept in
a different in a different timeframe, right or a different
season of the nation. But you know, I think that
you'll get a real reality check when you go on
to the security website and see if you retire at
(22:05):
age sixty two or age sixty four, age sixty seven,
what your monthly benefit will be. And that is what
you have to live on unless you work our time
and you have a pension or all those great blessings
if you do if you're able to do that. But
most Americans have to live on Social Security, so you
(22:27):
might think twice if you dip in and out of
this micro retirement phase. So uh now, baby, I gotta work.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
She's a dula, She's fabulous. I just adore this woman.
Lexi is joining us and we're talking about the trends. Lexi,
you know trends.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
Yes, yes, and I love you for.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Okay, men wanna eat? What do I mean by what
men want to eat?
Speaker 4 (23:06):
I'm scared to ask.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Okay, it's a new trend where the man might not
be attracted to you, men don't even like you, but
he gonna go out to dinner and you're gonna pay
for it. Oh wow, Yeah, that's a thing, Lexi, it
really is a thing, of course, when I'm saying all men,
but there's a new breed of men and they still
(23:31):
want to go out and they want you to pay
for it. And it's like, well, you're having my company, right,
and I'm gonna eat this good piece of steak or
this lobster. You're gonna pay for it.
Speaker 13 (23:43):
They're like companions like those those Oh wow, okay.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
I can see. I can see that I got you
with this one.
Speaker 13 (23:55):
That is so interesting to me because women have been like,
oh my gosh, we've been crucified not to be as extreme,
but for wanting to do that, right, Like, oh, I
just want to go out.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
I may not be as interested in.
Speaker 13 (24:07):
Them, but you know, I enjoy his company or companionship
things like that.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
So this is wild to me. Yes, micro retiring is big.
Micro retiring Okay, more, okay. One this falls with gen
Z workers. They're paving the way for the next generation.
They're trying to prioritize a healthy work life balance. They're
(24:35):
going to retire in the middle. They're going to take
six months off to enjoy their life then return to
the work.
Speaker 6 (24:42):
For us, I could see.
Speaker 7 (24:44):
I definitely have noticed that.
Speaker 13 (24:46):
I definitely have noticed that people taken Now, I didn't
know what the language was for, right, so it's always
interesting to learn that.
Speaker 6 (24:53):
But I have seen people do that.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
M How long did they take all of it? How
long have they taken?
Speaker 13 (25:01):
Probably about that time frame, but more I've seen about
a year because there's like this self reflection that's.
Speaker 14 (25:06):
Happening where they're like, hey, maybe I'm not as interested
or not.
Speaker 13 (25:10):
As motivated as I was, So let me step back,
let me do some reevaluating, and then go back into
the space in a different environment too. And you know
when I noticed that shift, when I also saw the
shift in the workplace where employers weren't as necessarily as
loyal and so that impacted their loyalty. M.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
They're saying that doing a micro retirement might extend your
life because you're prioritizing taking that trip or just taking
time off for your mental health. There are many pros
and cons to this.
Speaker 13 (25:45):
Yeah, I can definitely see that. I mean, especially when
you start having these gaps in your history without really
having something sufficient to also support it.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
So I can see that. M. I gotta tell you,
I've never ever thought about micro retiring as a baby boomer.
But and I've had great bosses, I've always loved where
I've worked. Yes, but I can see people being unhappy
and saying deuces, because we are there is a deuces
(26:19):
generation out here. They will leave a job in a minute.
Would I worry?
Speaker 13 (26:24):
And you know, when you look at all these alternatives,
I mean, it may be a hustle to do it,
but between uber and photo dot Com or snap dot
com or whatever it is and instacart, Like, there's so
many other ways to earn.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
A living for yourself too.
Speaker 13 (26:39):
I think the comfort and ease sometimes though of that
regular job is what kept people tied in. But if
that doesn't move you for some of these other generations, yeah, I.
Speaker 12 (26:49):
See it too.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
We're talking about the trends for this year twenty twenty five,
and one of them that a lot of people, it's
like a real hot topic is micro retiring. There's this
trend rising among gen z and they're really prioritizing a
healthy work life. Villains they're taking off on six months
(27:16):
to a year to focus on their health. Do you
see this is for gen z's because baby boomers alike,
we got these bills to pay. So there's definitely there is.
There's hell no, I couldn't do this.
Speaker 12 (27:30):
Child, Patty, And you know, I almost speak to the
opposite side of that, reclaim your time, but after it's done,
get your behind back to work.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Don't spend too much time out. But I am I'm sorry.
I do understand the element of you know, you got
to get out.
Speaker 12 (27:46):
There and hustle, and you can't let nobody out hustle
you but after a while we don't realize as we
get older how that mindset.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
A lot of times it's a detriment to our bodies
because we see it time.
Speaker 12 (28:01):
And time again where our bodies are telling us like
you gotta slow it down, baby, slow it down.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Hey, I'm giving you this sign for a reason. Slow
it down.
Speaker 12 (28:10):
Pay attention to it, because I don't want you to
be sat down longer than you have to be down
the long run. And at the end of these days,
a lot of these corporations and we see how it's
happening to day child, they rolling back everything. Most of
the times they do not care about you for the
long run. So at the end of the day, if
(28:32):
you have that PTO, if you have that FMLA, I'm from.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
The school of now, now today, LaToya Charlton.
Speaker 12 (28:39):
Twenty years ago, I did not think this way, but
now baby, take your time, take your time, take your time.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
They're okay, they're talking about it could extend your life.
People are planning their rest and micro retirement. If you've
never heard of it before, you heard it here. It
is definitely a real thing.
Speaker 7 (29:06):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
The new trends of this year, new things that are happening.
We've got moche La Wrenz. She's joining us. You know.
I love to bring you guys the trends, and one
of the trends is micro micro retiring. This is retiring.
(29:31):
This is a trend that is really popular amongst gen zs,
all about prioritizing that work life balance. They're going to
be outnumbering baby boomers and in just a few years.
But they're changing the game. They're not afraid to say
(29:53):
I need a break. I'm gonna come back, but I
need a break. Your thoughts micro retiring, well cha chatter.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
I got so many thoughts about that micro retirement.
Speaker 14 (30:07):
I think we I think that basically goes back to
you understanding that in order for you to put your
best foot forward in the world, you have to have
time and space to replenish, right, And so micro retirement
for me looks like something that I try to practice
on a daily basis, you know, with like, okay, taking
(30:27):
a few hours of.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
The day just to do what makes me happy. I
don't know if I can, I don't know if my
mind can totally wrap around what that looks like.
Speaker 14 (30:38):
Because retirements in its traditional form and what it looks
like in twenty twenty five. You know what I'm saying, Like,
we don't know if Social Security going to be here
and all those things. So I think micro retirement just
for me translates into and I don't know what the
kids are saying, but translates into, hey.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
Take some time for yourself. Not just on your two
week vacations that your boss gives you all, but every day,
find time and every.
Speaker 14 (31:02):
Day to retire from life and the stuff that keeps
you busy and.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Pour into yourself. That's how I look at it now.
Speaker 14 (31:10):
I might even got over complicated with it right there, Patty,
but that's how I see it.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
I can't keep up with all of the turned trends,
so I'm interpret them the way I do, and that's
how I see it.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Okay, there's another tread, and there's another tread. Boll Men
want to eat. They're not they're not romantically interested. It
may not be their type, but they want to go
out to that restaurant they want. They want to go
(31:41):
out to dinner. They want to they want you to
pay for it. They want their good lobster and trimp
and that steak. But they're not interested. But they're gonna
go along for that meal, that this could be a
younger people thing, or maybe some of the pop opposite
dipping as well.
Speaker 14 (31:59):
But men, I think you know what I think is happening.
I think man, I think men has figned. They've finally
gotten hits to the fact that women have done that
for so long, because women could be disinterested in a man, honey,
and and have and have a date Monday through Friday
just to go out to uh and have a good
steak dinner every night and have and have no plans
(32:22):
or intentions of really seeing that man, you know, for
the long term. So men was like, you know what,
it's getting costly to day out here. I'm dropping to
three hundred dollars every day. So now they have turned
the tables and they're saying, no, you take me out,
you buy me a steak dinner.
Speaker 7 (32:38):
You do.
Speaker 14 (32:39):
And because it's so few of them and so many
of us women are like, well, I guess I can't
buying a dinner here, and they are here, and so
they they're just getting hits. So they are superior in
the sense and in a quantity sense. They have more
numbers than we do. And so it's a it's a
it's a man's market. If that makes sense, I can
only relate it back to the Really, it's a man's market,
(33:01):
meaning they have the pick of the litter.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
We don't. So now they want us to treat them
and want and dine them. Guess what. Take me off
the group chat because I won't be doing that anytime too.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
I gotta tell you, I absolutely love great conversation. And
when I say that I've got some of the best
voices on this podcast, I mean it. I hope you
enjoyed the conversation. Trends are always funny to me. I'm
Patty Jackson. You can find us where podcasts live, whether
(33:35):
it's Spotify, Pandora, iHeartRadio, podcast, Apple Podcast, SoundCloud, Raised Dad,
Dakota's dad, Dexter Stucky puts everything together. Thanks for joining
us for the podcast conversation Patty and the Millennials
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