April 23, 2025 • 35 mins
Remember when concert ticket prices were reasonable? Remember going on dates to the movies? Well, it looks like those days are long gone. Concert prices are so high that many are opting to use by now, pay later options to see their favorite stars. There is also a new trend of internet dating. You never meet or connect in person, but carry out a full relationship virtually.....
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Whether it's life, relationships, politics, or current events, nothing is
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Welcome to the podcast conversation Patty and the Millennials.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
I'm not a millennial. I'm a baby boomer.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I'm a radio vet in Philadelphia. I'm Patty Jackson and
I have the best voices.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
And we do have great conversation.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Veterom broadcaster Uncle Oh, and the co host of the
John podcast is.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Joining us, and I don't know if you're ready, Uncle Oh.
I'm ready. No, I'm so ready.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
You don't even understand how ready I am.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Uncle Oh.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
My question to you is, you know the cost of concerts.
It is so outrageously expensive that you really have to say, hmm,
do I want to do this? A lot of people
are putting the concert tickets on layaway, or they're doing
(01:06):
the buy now, pay later.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Your thoughts on this, I say it's our own fault.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
You want to know why I say that. Why?
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Because we stopped buying the music, we started streaming, using
them streaming services, and now the artists aren't making any money,
and so we have to spend more money because they
need their money from the shows where they're making the
money from the shows. Now, if you can't afford to
buy the tickets, you probably shouldn't go anywhere.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
But if you can, if you.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Can go on Klarna or affirm and get your tickets
and pay for it later, I'd say, that's a great deal.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
But you know what, Oh, you've just brought up a
good point one of the reason why these rising costs
of concerts. And of course people love to go out
and entertain, but some of them are like, ridiculous, what
do you do?
Speaker 3 (02:00):
How do you how do you help the artists?
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Okay, if you aren't gonna pay for downloads and artists
aren't making any money off the music you're listening to
almost for free, then how else would they make their money.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
They make their money from you going to the shows.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
And so the price of the tickets, which were like
a usual ticket, and I'm just being you know, I'm saying,
it's a price out of the air. But if it
was ten dollars before, it's now twenty dollars because I
have to I have to offset the cost of losing
from you not buying my records.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Wow, you butt up a great point that I didn't
think of. There's a new thing going on in relationships,
and one of the new things is being in a
relationship with somebody online.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
What am I talking about? You're just online.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
There is no sex, there is no kissing, there is
no holding. You strictly have an online relationship.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Have things gone too far? Yeah? No, it's really what
we used to call so back.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
In the day when there was no internet and you
would just write them, so we called them pen pals.
So I'm gonna call you a netpal. That's really all
it is. We call them a netpal. Let's tell them
today that the new name for it is netpal. If
you aren't giving me any sex, I don't have to
take you on a date.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
And all we do is communicate online. You are a
net pal.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
She's a doula and she helps many parents with the
birth of their children. She's joining us on our podcast
Conversation Patty and the Millennials. This is Lexi and Lexi.
I don't know the last time you went to our concert.
But it is so expensive, the rising cost. Well, there's
this Well, I don't know if you say it's new,
(03:56):
but a lot of people will put in their concert
tickets on layaway or or they buy now, pay later.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Your thoughts, Well one.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
The last concert, okay, so I go to my fairs.
Year of concerts actually funny enough, both the small scale
almost like a city winery type concert, and large scale
because I went to Usher last year, and I will
say the costs are pretty significant. And I'm gonna add
a third option to that, which is you get somebody
else to pay for it and then you pay them back.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
So it's still like.
Speaker 7 (04:30):
That financier type thing.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
But I think that one of the things I appreciate
about like your Klara and your Afterpays of the World
or those types of apps, and I have used them before,
is it does allow you to get your stuff in advance.
You can have your tickets and then pay on it
and not all the times you have to incur like
the interest, especially if you're not using your car. So
I think it is cool to have those options. Now,
(04:54):
if you got to use it for everything, then you
might need to evaluate do you really need to go,
if it's gonna cost more, or if you can't, you know,
phone a front and have them do it. And pay
your friend back. But I do think it's nice to
have these different options because they are super expensive. And
then when you factor in wanting to get you know,
cute to go to it too, you got you got
(05:14):
a whole heavy expense.
Speaker 8 (05:15):
There.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
There's a new thing going on with relationships. It's a
different kind of relationship Lexie. People are in or entering
into relationships where you it's only online. There's no sex, holding, kissing, dinner,
none of that, none of that. You are simply in
(05:38):
a relationship. It's just online.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
I have never Okay, that's interesting. So I knew people
in those types of relationships but they didn't want to
be But it was one of those things where like, Okay,
this person clearly got a whole other family or something
because they're only keeping you on the phone or online.
Speaker 8 (06:00):
But I've never heard of that.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
I mean, I guess if you just want companionship, you
just want to talk to someone, that's the thing. But
I would imagine at a certain point you at least
want like a little nustle or a hug or a
movie or something together. So like, are they watching like
movies together online?
Speaker 8 (06:17):
I'm just trying to hear.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
It's just strictly online. There's no physical one on one.
Everything is everything is on.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
I mean that just shows you like where we are
as a society. I get a little worried about it
because we're already kind of disconnected a little as people
and wanting to stay in community a little. But I guess,
you know, if it works, to each their own. But
I imagine that at some point you would get emotionally
or physically kind of have a deficit still by not
(06:49):
having someone.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
She's a fabulous singer. He's a very funny comedian and musician.
We've got Derek Lee, We've got the song stress.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Does he need know how you guys doing. Okay? You know,
I'd love to hit you with things.
Speaker 9 (07:06):
Derek.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
We're going to start with you.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
The price of going to a show is very expensive nowadays.
Right people are putting the concert tickets on layaway, or
they're doing buy now, paid later.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
What do you think of this? For people saying, well,
I want to go to a show, but I can't
afford it right now.
Speaker 10 (07:29):
There's nothing wrong with buy now, paid later, long as
you paid all your bills first. Okay, you have people,
you have money for what you want. When you work
all day long. You have to get a release. If
you love Usher so much, like all these women are,
they save it up all day money, they licking cherries.
If they want to put us out of one thousand
dollars to go see Usher, I'm all for it. You
(07:49):
just make sure the electric gashold water, cable of daycare,
cardinal food is in refrigerator. Let them do what they
want to do.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Hmmm, you know, I have to agree.
Speaker 11 (08:00):
First of all, I'm a very responsible person, so I
feel that the bills have to be paid first. But
I also think that there are some there are some
promoters who are overcharging for stuff that they really can
be reducing.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Take for instance, there's some comedy shows.
Speaker 11 (08:14):
You can get a good comedy show right now for
thirty five or forty dollars the ones that are costing
eighty five and one hundred. It really makes me wonder
because I'm like, I know, y'all funny, but damn, you
know what I'm saying. So I think that people have
to bear in mind the times in the economy as
they are doing these ticket prices and make it affordable.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
And then you ain't got to do no layway. You
can enjoy and.
Speaker 9 (08:33):
Pay your bills.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Okay, there's also a new thing going on, you know.
I'd like to keep you guys up to date with
what's happening. People are now entering into relationships where it's
only online.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
What do I mean?
Speaker 2 (08:49):
There's no kissing, hugging, sex, going to dinner. This relationship is.
Speaker 8 (08:55):
I take.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Okay, let's okay.
Speaker 8 (09:01):
If you want this or do you want me to
take this first?
Speaker 3 (09:05):
You know, let me get it out the way it
did you bring it to a hole.
Speaker 11 (09:08):
Let me say this right now because see answer you
loves to make it. Because I'm the cousin Christian, it's
a hell no for me. First of all, once I've
established that you are my person, to think, just the
thought of not being able to be embraced, especially the
older I get.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Physical touches one of my love languages.
Speaker 11 (09:23):
And it means so much to me. So the thought
of not being able to be in the presence of
or being enveloped by my person.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
And I'm a kisser and I'm a good kisser.
Speaker 9 (09:32):
You understand.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
So I'm gonna need some sugar and a good time.
Go ahead, d okay.
Speaker 10 (09:37):
If you think you're going to have an online relationship
with a woman. And that's a psychiatrist, that's a phone,
a friend. That's crazy. You you have some type of illness,
you're lacking an area.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
That ain't your woman.
Speaker 10 (09:49):
Well, well, if we want to get technical with the situation,
and I tell the brothers I speak to all the
time when I at the men's meeting, she ain't never
really all the way, your woman is just your hern
Just be glad you have her now that it's just
your You don't own no woman. If y'all together, y'all
to gather that woman.
Speaker 8 (10:07):
Can leave you at any time.
Speaker 10 (10:09):
It ain't your woman. I'm talking about the married men too.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
It's just your time.
Speaker 10 (10:12):
Be glad you got it. But if you talking to
her on what they call it face time and zoom,
you're crazy. Are these women getting money and stuff from
these men? Because because nowadays these girls ain't playing, you
got to play for the babysitter before you take them out.
Don't act like I'm the only one. Don't act like
I'm the only one that heard of that saying these
(10:38):
girls is like, look are we going out Saturday? Okay, fine,
cash at me some money so I can get my
nails done.
Speaker 8 (10:45):
This is our first day.
Speaker 10 (10:47):
Are you crazy? These young girls are business women. But
what it is is they got the game all messed up.
Now it's basically what can you do for me? Instead
of what can we do for each other? The game
is all the way messed up, and a lot of
the guys are playing into it. But what it is
(11:07):
is the men have so many options they just move
on to the next woman.
Speaker 11 (11:12):
Because it's exactly while I'm single.
Speaker 8 (11:15):
Yeah, but it's too many.
Speaker 10 (11:17):
It's two million more black women than it is black
men on this earth, so so so y'all out number us,
so we can pick and choose and do whatever we
want because there's so many more of them. When you
knock out people that the ugly man and the shortened
men you don't want, and the men that make twelve
dollars an hour. You know, y' y'all ain't got but
eighty three men to choose from you.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
So mean, you are mean.
Speaker 10 (11:43):
I'm giving you statistically true, I'm giving you facts. You
guys are too picky. We're here for the sex sometimes,
so y'all are too picky. Well, if he's not six
feet tall, if he don't make six figures, if he
don't have ads, this, this, this, y'all got eighty three
men to choose from. We don't care. We date anybody.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
We especially if you.
Speaker 9 (12:04):
Don't go only go be there for today.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
We date anybody.
Speaker 10 (12:08):
It don't matter. That's why average looking men are dating
pretty prey. Look how average jay Z looks.
Speaker 8 (12:14):
He got to me.
Speaker 10 (12:15):
I think Beyonce is a beautiful woman.
Speaker 9 (12:17):
Yon is a nine.
Speaker 12 (12:19):
Ten.
Speaker 9 (12:20):
Jay Z is a three.
Speaker 10 (12:21):
At best, But when he's standing on the fifty million dollars,
he's a ten.
Speaker 7 (12:25):
Now.
Speaker 10 (12:27):
But but if Beyonce walked into to Macy's and he's
in the perfume section, she ain't gonna pay that boy. No,
she ain't gonna give him a minute. She ain't gonna
get him a time of day because he's not attracted.
We go with anybody. Average looking men can get whatever
they want.
Speaker 13 (12:43):
Now.
Speaker 10 (12:44):
All you gotta do is have enough money to stand
on it, and the women are with you. You It is
not ever your woman, it's just your turn.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Cause he told us, Daisy, my god, the man who
it's it all together. For our podcast, Patty and the Millennials,
we've got Daddy Decks because he's a first time Dad Decks.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Are you surprised.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
By the cost of going to a concert these days,
whether it's a festival, whether it's a regular concert. Do
the prices surprise you to me? Some of them are alarming.
Speaker 10 (13:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (13:27):
I'm very surprised about the price that come of concerts
because I used to work for the station, so I
didn't have to pay for But now now I'm like, wait,
you is what y'all were paying before? Four hundred dollars
and then that's just to get one seed and then
you still got to do a convenience feedom Like, who
has the money for this?
Speaker 2 (13:44):
It's the convenient fees that really get on my nerves
because you're thinking, really, the convenient fees can wind up
being a little pricey, Yes, and.
Speaker 8 (13:54):
Then they add on like the Blake twice feed, the
standing up feed. Yeah, there's the park the parking scene.
I have to pay for parking at Wells Fargo recently
thirty five dollars. I'm like, I have to eat, I
have to drink, I have all these things I have
to do, and you guys are charging me an arm
and a leg for everything.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Well, nowadays, decks, people are putting their concert tickets on
lay away, or they're doing the buy I'll pay later.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Your thoughts on that there's.
Speaker 12 (14:27):
Not a single soul that I need to hear on
the microphone that I'm going to put on lailway that
I just cannot do.
Speaker 8 (14:32):
I'm listening at it on the iPod.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Really, so, there's no are a favorite artist that you
would just love to see A yante.
Speaker 8 (14:42):
Actually to come here and I have to put this
on the by now pay later thing. Look you, I
might have to put the seat y on somebody. You know,
somebody will post it on social media and I will
sit there and enjoy the conversation the concert from social media.
I can't do it, you know what.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
That's how I enjoyed Beyonce's Renaissance tour. I didn't feel
I didn't feel bad about my going because I practically
saw the whole thing online and felt like I was there.
Speaker 12 (15:10):
Fiance was the one the last counter that I went to.
I felt like I got hit over the heads. I'm like,
I paid so much money for these tickets. Great show,
but I paid so much money for these tickets. It's
just like it blows your mind.
Speaker 8 (15:22):
It really does.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
A new thing that's also happening is regarding to relationships.
There are people entering into relationships where it's only online.
There is no in person, there is no sex, there
is no touching, hugging, none of that. This is purely
(15:47):
a relationship on line.
Speaker 8 (15:54):
Oh I'm not.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
I'm for.
Speaker 8 (16:00):
People will get upset about being cat fished. Yeah, you
are having a saw a relationship solely online. You're not
gaining a real person.
Speaker 7 (16:07):
You're being catfished.
Speaker 8 (16:09):
I guarantee you. They're not showing their real images to
each other because what's the point. We're not gonna see
each other.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
But don't you That's it's kind of like odd, but
you know what it is.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
That's we are now in a I don't know a
time of life where people be thinking that this is
like acceptable because people don't want that human interaction.
Speaker 8 (16:32):
I can understand not wanting the human interaction in some
aspects of a relationship, but there's this one thing that
I feel like you need to have another person around
to you know, experience. I'll call it intimacy. But I mean,
I'm not dating nobody online. If we not haveing sex,
I'm just not gonna do it. Sex as important in
a relationship, the conversationship.
Speaker 12 (16:51):
We can do that remotely, but when we're talking to
have sex, we're not virtually doing that.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
We've got LaToya, Charleston, Chocla Divinity joining us on the
cash patty and the millennials. The rising costs of going
to see a show are going to a concert, Toya,
Are you surprised at some of the prices on some
of these shoes.
Speaker 9 (17:16):
Absolutely. It's so funny because even though you know, I
love the what I think a Denzel Washington, he's in
Ofello right now and on Broadway it's you know, star studded, acclaimed.
But from what I'm hearing, those tickets are going for
like six hundred dollars even regular concerts now most people
(17:37):
are paying one fifty to two hundred, and that's for
a just all right seat. And in my opinion of
this day and age, people are under financial stress so
much that you can't go the shows like you wanted
to before. And it's very important in my opinion, to
stay connected to the craft of live entertainment.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Well, guess what some people are doing what they're putting
the concert tickets on layaway, or they're doing the buy now,
pay later, and it's a lot of it's a lot
of millennials and Gen X that are doing this.
Speaker 8 (18:16):
Yeah, well that makes sense.
Speaker 9 (18:18):
Okay, I forgot you could do after paying things like
that with those flights Chiles. You can need to do
after pay with plane tickets, which I have done in
the past. So at least they are trying to make,
you know, ways to still make this happen. But at
the end of the day, a lot of these price
ticket prices, they're just over It's just too much at
the end of the day. So you wouldn't have to
(18:39):
do that if you wouldn't price them so high. Now
I can understand if you're trying to do, you know,
go to the Beyonce show and you're trying to be
a part of that be high you already know you
coming in at one thousand dollars. But if I just
want a regular seat, I'm sorry, I should not have
to pay over one hundred dollars for that.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
The thing that's going on, let's talk relationships.
Speaker 8 (19:06):
Okay, the new thing.
Speaker 7 (19:08):
The new thing.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Is you're in a relationship, but it's only online. There
is no in person, there is no sex, touching, holding, nothing,
it's only online.
Speaker 9 (19:24):
What in the love during lock up is going on?
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Here, I need you.
Speaker 9 (19:28):
I mean, listen, I guess to each their own. I
guess some people they just want that. You know, that's
emotional support.
Speaker 8 (19:35):
But at the end of the.
Speaker 9 (19:36):
Day, if it ain't, if we ain't going to get
to that on the level we're doing this for. I
got enough friends out here, I can I can go
get a pen pal somewhere else.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
I don't.
Speaker 9 (19:45):
I have a relationship with my friends, Like, I don't
need you for that, I need you for.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
The other part.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Well, do you think this is kind of like a
new form of being a pen down?
Speaker 7 (20:00):
I guess so.
Speaker 9 (20:01):
But it's funny because y'all about to get replaced with
AI because like chat GTT, because now chat eggs are
the new relationship. We can use them for everything. You know,
they're the new best friend. So I don't know's that's
weird to me? But again, to east their own, if
it works for you, no judgment.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
We gotta double doos. Today.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
We've got sex doctor head there, she's a real sexologist.
We also have the editor of a download news information
tours on Instagram, and we've got Whitney Roberts.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Hey, ladies, how you doing okay?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
How do you feel about the high price of concerts.
It costs so much for some of these shows.
Speaker 14 (20:47):
It does.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Oh my gosh, Patty.
Speaker 14 (20:49):
I am so mad though, because I feel like it's
a conspiracy because not only are the price high, but
these credit cards, Like I keep getting these emails from
my black my black American Airlines.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
City Bank card.
Speaker 14 (21:07):
They want to meet in cohoots with the concert people
now right, so they like, why don't you get a
bundle for twelve thousand dollars?
Speaker 3 (21:16):
I got twelve thousand dollars. Wow, on your card.
Speaker 14 (21:20):
You can go backstage, you can do all of this,
you can get I'm like, wait a minute, y'all are
so y'all are condoning these prices and you.
Speaker 9 (21:27):
Want me to put on a on this credit card?
Speaker 3 (21:31):
So I don't like it. This, this is what they're doing.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Whitney, how do you feel about these high concert I'm in.
Speaker 15 (21:39):
The same boat as doctor Heather, like why are we
paying so much for these shows? Like yes, there's like
really wonderful shows and these are sometimes like life like
life changing experiences, Like I know, I hear my friends
talk about Beyonce all the time and they're like, whatever
she asks you for, she's worth it, but like you know,
(22:00):
you're random artists that's ask you for hundreds of dollars
just to be in the room with them. I'm like, eh,
maybe not, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Well, you know what it is with the streaming the
artists are not getting the money that they want from
these streaming services, so they go out on tour.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
A lot of them are I'm the hottest thing out
right now.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
I'm gonna try to get as much money as i
can because next year the game will change and I
won't be this hot.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
So that's one reason. But a lot of people are
now doing thee by now, pay later or putting these
things on layaway, like their clothes.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
How do you feel about that?
Speaker 14 (22:43):
That's true, they are doing that.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (22:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
People are fans of Flaria.
Speaker 14 (22:50):
There's a concert that goes on every year in Rotterdam, okay, Amsterdam, Rotterdam.
And I went on to get tickets, like so it's
not until July, Patty, no Lie. I went on to
get tickets in like November of last year.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
It was sold out. Wow wow, I like that?
Speaker 14 (23:10):
Is that everywhere? Like is this happening everywhere or just
here in the United States?
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Because the tickets were actually reasonable.
Speaker 14 (23:17):
And it's called the North Seas Jazz Festival, and you
got all these people Rikabad dude like, but it's not
crazy expensive.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
Are the roots tickets expensive?
Speaker 2 (23:27):
It depends on what package, Whitney, Are you familiar with
these packages that they offer.
Speaker 15 (23:34):
For the Roots, No, I'm not familiar.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
But well, what they're doing is they're offering.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
You you get exclusive backstage, you get VIP seating, and
it's a lot. It's very different from just the regular tickets.
Speaker 15 (23:50):
Yeah, like the regular regular just going and enjoying the program.
Yeah all right, so just I'm gonna be the nerd
in the group. I'm not one of these gals that
just be out and about like the concerts and things
like that. But maybe so my opinion might be skewed.
But going into debt to go to a show, it
just don't feel right. Like watching my credit score drop,
(24:11):
which is already a scam unto itself, but watching my
credit score drop just because I really really wanted to
see the rapper of the moment, the singer of the moment,
and then I'm still paying off these tickets ten years
from five years, three years, a year from now feels
crazy to me. I'm like, but you know, like somebody's
(24:31):
gonna have clips on TikTok.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
It'll be fun exactly exactly, you know, with the Cowboy Carter,
I didn't feel bad that she wasn't coming to Philly
because I watched the entire renaissance on ig Okay, well
I felt like I was there. Yes, let's talk about relationships.
(24:57):
There's a new thing in relationships. People are having relationships online.
Let me stress. There's no sex, there's no hugging, there's
no kissing. You just have a relationship online only.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
There's no meeting. They're just online only. Yeah, your thoughts
on that.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Whitney, Whitney, have we come to this point in our lives?
Speaker 3 (25:30):
All right? All right? As the as the millennial and
the bunch.
Speaker 8 (25:33):
But I'm an elder.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Millennial, doctor Heather, I defer to you.
Speaker 15 (25:38):
But my initial reaction is really visceral because, like I
can understand, you know, people talk to each other online
all the time, like people are in constant conversation. In fact,
that's what social media is good for, fostering and generating conversation.
A relationship, though it feels like it involves more than
just a discussion and talking. It feels like it involves
(26:00):
more time and effort and getting to know people and
getting to be in people's vicinity. This feels I don't know,
Like the other day I saw I forget which platform
it was, but they were promoting being able to talk
to these AI bots the way you will talk to people,
and I'm like, but why when people are right there?
(26:21):
You are right there, I'm uncomfortable.
Speaker 8 (26:25):
I'm a little confused.
Speaker 15 (26:26):
But again, I'm no doctor, and I'm gonna defer to
the good doctor.
Speaker 14 (26:31):
Well, you know what, I agree with everything that you said.
So here's something for everyone to kind of think about.
When you have people who are just talking via online
or the phone or text messages and they're saying they're
in a partnership or relationship, ninety percent of the people
(26:51):
are in actual relationships with people that are physical Okay,
they are lacking the communication piece.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
So it's the same as cheating for people.
Speaker 14 (27:03):
Like they go and they seek out people that they
can communicate with because their partnership is not they're not communicating.
They're working, they're tired, they're all the things, and they
can be somebody else on the phone. Right, So that's
what you hit the nail on the head Whitney when
you said, you know, the social media stuff, that's what
(27:25):
it is. People can be somebody else. People don't want
to be themselves, right, So a lot of this online
and just on the phone relationships are because of that.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
People don't want to be who they actually are.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Wow, And we've got most se Lorene joining us in
most shame.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Do you like all the concerts?
Speaker 8 (27:47):
Love going to concerts?
Speaker 12 (27:49):
Are you?
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Are you appalled at the prices that some of these
concerts have?
Speaker 13 (27:59):
Oh my god, Patty, I'm telling you, I can really
dig into crazy on this one because I remember when
I first started going to concerts. In fact, it was
a powerhouse. I think it was one of my first concerts.
Speaker 8 (28:11):
Right, this is back when it was.
Speaker 13 (28:14):
Nine dollars and ninety nine cents.
Speaker 16 (28:17):
Okay, So does that speak to be a polemist if
that's the word. Yes, I am home at the price
of entertainment these says, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Well, a lot of people are doing the klarma thing
by now pay later or putting their concert tickets on layaway?
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Is that crazy?
Speaker 10 (28:42):
Betty?
Speaker 9 (28:43):
Betty, I'm gonna hang this phone up on you.
Speaker 7 (28:44):
Are you serious?
Speaker 9 (28:45):
I'm very serious. Yes, you know, here's the sad part
about that.
Speaker 13 (28:53):
It's funny as we talk about it, because I didn't
even know that was a thing, because I know they
do it for clothes and things.
Speaker 8 (29:00):
Like that, which I also think is crazy.
Speaker 13 (29:02):
But when you think about the people who are put
who are putting conplet tickets on railway, if you will,
it's like us, you know what I mean, which said
that we still have not, you know, gotten basically responsible
enough to know that we've got to stop spending our
money in places like that, like we're buying conplet tickets
(29:26):
for five and six hundred dollars, but yet we don't
see the value of buying our own homes and owning
something that has appreciated, appreciating value.
Speaker 9 (29:34):
That's crazy to me.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
I know. Another thing that may take you by surprise.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
A lot of people are opting to be in relationships
that are strictly online. There's no sex, there's no hugging,
there's no meeting. You just have this relationship online.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
That's it.
Speaker 7 (29:54):
Wow that you know what you know?
Speaker 13 (29:56):
I'm you know, I'm in my new single gum, so
I'm out here in these I don't necessarily want to.
Speaker 9 (30:01):
Be, but I will tell you that.
Speaker 13 (30:03):
The online thing for me has been it's been a
little tricky to navigate, and I do find that you
can establish some level of connection first, but then it
needs to get offline and get personal, right, it needs
to be up close and personal. I like the fact
(30:24):
that we can start some conbo there and we can
I can kind of like filter out whether or not
you know, I like the way you move, to like
the way you talk, and then I want to take
it and then I want to see it in real life.
So I don't know about having a full fledged relationship
child online. But I hear people are really getting in
in bed with AI like people are having AI girlfriends
(30:47):
and AI boyfriends. Yes, that's the thing I hear. Wait,
touch and feel and smell minds to touch feeling, smell
mind exactly.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
That is definitely not for me.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Author Kim read Optimus Always Wins is joining us? Kim,
Do you enjoy going to concerts?
Speaker 8 (31:12):
Of course?
Speaker 9 (31:12):
You know.
Speaker 7 (31:13):
I love the Dell and I can't wait for this summer.
Speaker 9 (31:18):
I do.
Speaker 6 (31:19):
I do love going to concerts, you know. But I
will tell you Patty back and I'm dating myself. But
back in the eighties and nineties. Those were concerts because
you had Michael Jackson, right, you had prints L L.
Cool Jay like right when he first came out. So
I just think there, I love going to concerts. Yes,
I think there's just a difference in generation and in
(31:44):
kind of the the elapse of time. Right, the concerts
are a little bit different now than they used to be.
I think that, you know.
Speaker 7 (31:51):
We had a lot of audience participations back in the day.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Well, one of the things that stands out from com
to from yesterday and today is the high prices on
these concert tickets. It could be a little it could
be a little investment going to a show nowaday, and
a lot of times it's because the artists do not
(32:17):
really make that money from the streaming, so they tack
it onto these shows. So what people are doing, they're
doing like the Klarma thing by now pay later or
putting their concert tickets on layaway.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Your thoughts. People are doing this. People are actually doing this.
Speaker 7 (32:41):
I'm telling you, Oh lord, I'm patty.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
You know, listen, no judgment because if you want to
go see Mary, you want to go see married.
Speaker 7 (32:50):
But I'm just not putting concert tickets on layweight. I
can't do that. There's so much more important things to do.
But I would tell you though I went to see
Rick Fry Phil don't judge me at in Camden. Those
tickets were those tickets where we were sitting were like
six hundred dollars.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Well, this is how people are dealing with the high
cost of tickets.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
They're putting them on layaway.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Another thing that's happening people in relationships only online. So
there is no kissing, hugging, meeting sex. This relationship is
strictly online. Have we come to this point in our
(33:41):
lives because there are people who have these AI people
and it's like they're real people.
Speaker 7 (33:49):
Satty, Lord, have mercy. See I didn't know you're gonna
hit me with this today, honey. And let me see
that between the between the six hundred dollars plus tickets
and being online on a relationship, you know, it tells
you where the world is moving to though right like
you know, we don't know how to spell why because
(34:10):
we text that we can be in a relationship and
text every single day and never talk to each other.
I think that's why the emotional intelligence in people like
you know, you don't know if you've hurt someone by
what you said, because you talk so much over text.
So I say all that to say that, you know, Patty,
I won't be single before I do an online relationship.
(34:31):
Only you know, where's the intimacy, where is the connection?
The talk? That one is not for me, girl, I
can't do it. It's not I'm gonna keep paying a
lot of money for concerts.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Then it's not for a lot of people. But this
is a.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Thing that people are actually doing. Kim, thank you so much.
This wraps up this calm this podcast edition to Patty.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
And the Millennials where we talk everything. The world is.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Changing, things are changing what we do, and we talk
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Speaker 3 (35:11):
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Welcome to the podcast conversation Patty and the Millennials.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
I'm not a millennial. I'm a baby boomer.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I'm a radio vet in Philadelphia. I'm Patty Jackson and
I have the best voices.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
And we do have great conversation.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Veterom broadcaster Uncle Oh, and the co host of the
John podcast is.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Joining us, and I don't know if you're ready, Uncle Oh.
I'm ready. No, I'm so ready.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
You don't even understand how ready I am.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Uncle Oh.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
My question to you is, you know the cost of concerts.
It is so outrageously expensive that you really have to say, hmm,
do I want to do this? A lot of people
are putting the concert tickets on layaway, or they're doing
(01:06):
the buy now, pay later.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Your thoughts on this, I say it's our own fault.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
You want to know why I say that. Why?
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Because we stopped buying the music, we started streaming, using
them streaming services, and now the artists aren't making any money,
and so we have to spend more money because they
need their money from the shows where they're making the
money from the shows. Now, if you can't afford to
buy the tickets, you probably shouldn't go anywhere.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
But if you can, if you.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Can go on Klarna or affirm and get your tickets
and pay for it later, I'd say, that's a great deal.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
But you know what, Oh, you've just brought up a
good point one of the reason why these rising costs
of concerts. And of course people love to go out
and entertain, but some of them are like, ridiculous, what
do you do?
Speaker 3 (02:00):
How do you how do you help the artists?
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Okay, if you aren't gonna pay for downloads and artists
aren't making any money off the music you're listening to
almost for free, then how else would they make their money.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
They make their money from you going to the shows.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
And so the price of the tickets, which were like
a usual ticket, and I'm just being you know, I'm saying,
it's a price out of the air. But if it
was ten dollars before, it's now twenty dollars because I
have to I have to offset the cost of losing
from you not buying my records.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Wow, you butt up a great point that I didn't
think of. There's a new thing going on in relationships,
and one of the new things is being in a
relationship with somebody online.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
What am I talking about? You're just online.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
There is no sex, there is no kissing, there is
no holding. You strictly have an online relationship.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Have things gone too far? Yeah? No, it's really what
we used to call so back.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
In the day when there was no internet and you
would just write them, so we called them pen pals.
So I'm gonna call you a netpal. That's really all
it is. We call them a netpal. Let's tell them
today that the new name for it is netpal. If
you aren't giving me any sex, I don't have to
take you on a date.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
And all we do is communicate online. You are a
net pal.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
She's a doula and she helps many parents with the
birth of their children. She's joining us on our podcast
Conversation Patty and the Millennials. This is Lexi and Lexi.
I don't know the last time you went to our concert.
But it is so expensive, the rising cost. Well, there's
this Well, I don't know if you say it's new,
(03:56):
but a lot of people will put in their concert
tickets on layaway or or they buy now, pay later.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Your thoughts, Well one.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
The last concert, okay, so I go to my fairs.
Year of concerts actually funny enough, both the small scale
almost like a city winery type concert, and large scale
because I went to Usher last year, and I will
say the costs are pretty significant. And I'm gonna add
a third option to that, which is you get somebody
else to pay for it and then you pay them back.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
So it's still like.
Speaker 7 (04:30):
That financier type thing.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
But I think that one of the things I appreciate
about like your Klara and your Afterpays of the World
or those types of apps, and I have used them before,
is it does allow you to get your stuff in advance.
You can have your tickets and then pay on it
and not all the times you have to incur like
the interest, especially if you're not using your car. So
I think it is cool to have those options. Now,
(04:54):
if you got to use it for everything, then you
might need to evaluate do you really need to go,
if it's gonna cost more, or if you can't, you know,
phone a front and have them do it. And pay
your friend back. But I do think it's nice to
have these different options because they are super expensive. And
then when you factor in wanting to get you know,
cute to go to it too, you got you got
(05:14):
a whole heavy expense.
Speaker 8 (05:15):
There.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
There's a new thing going on with relationships. It's a
different kind of relationship Lexie. People are in or entering
into relationships where you it's only online. There's no sex, holding, kissing, dinner,
none of that, none of that. You are simply in
(05:38):
a relationship. It's just online.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
I have never Okay, that's interesting. So I knew people
in those types of relationships but they didn't want to
be But it was one of those things where like, Okay,
this person clearly got a whole other family or something
because they're only keeping you on the phone or online.
Speaker 8 (06:00):
But I've never heard of that.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
I mean, I guess if you just want companionship, you
just want to talk to someone, that's the thing. But
I would imagine at a certain point you at least
want like a little nustle or a hug or a
movie or something together. So like, are they watching like
movies together online?
Speaker 8 (06:17):
I'm just trying to hear.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
It's just strictly online. There's no physical one on one.
Everything is everything is on.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
I mean that just shows you like where we are
as a society. I get a little worried about it
because we're already kind of disconnected a little as people
and wanting to stay in community a little. But I guess,
you know, if it works, to each their own. But
I imagine that at some point you would get emotionally
or physically kind of have a deficit still by not
(06:49):
having someone.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
She's a fabulous singer. He's a very funny comedian and musician.
We've got Derek Lee, We've got the song stress.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Does he need know how you guys doing. Okay? You know,
I'd love to hit you with things.
Speaker 9 (07:06):
Derek.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
We're going to start with you.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
The price of going to a show is very expensive nowadays.
Right people are putting the concert tickets on layaway, or
they're doing buy now, paid later.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
What do you think of this? For people saying, well,
I want to go to a show, but I can't
afford it right now.
Speaker 10 (07:29):
There's nothing wrong with buy now, paid later, long as
you paid all your bills first. Okay, you have people,
you have money for what you want. When you work
all day long. You have to get a release. If
you love Usher so much, like all these women are,
they save it up all day money, they licking cherries.
If they want to put us out of one thousand
dollars to go see Usher, I'm all for it. You
(07:49):
just make sure the electric gashold water, cable of daycare,
cardinal food is in refrigerator. Let them do what they
want to do.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Hmmm, you know, I have to agree.
Speaker 11 (08:00):
First of all, I'm a very responsible person, so I
feel that the bills have to be paid first. But
I also think that there are some there are some
promoters who are overcharging for stuff that they really can
be reducing.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Take for instance, there's some comedy shows.
Speaker 11 (08:14):
You can get a good comedy show right now for
thirty five or forty dollars the ones that are costing
eighty five and one hundred. It really makes me wonder
because I'm like, I know, y'all funny, but damn, you
know what I'm saying. So I think that people have
to bear in mind the times in the economy as
they are doing these ticket prices and make it affordable.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
And then you ain't got to do no layway. You
can enjoy and.
Speaker 9 (08:33):
Pay your bills.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Okay, there's also a new thing going on, you know.
I'd like to keep you guys up to date with
what's happening. People are now entering into relationships where it's
only online.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
What do I mean?
Speaker 2 (08:49):
There's no kissing, hugging, sex, going to dinner. This relationship is.
Speaker 8 (08:55):
I take.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Okay, let's okay.
Speaker 8 (09:01):
If you want this or do you want me to
take this first?
Speaker 3 (09:05):
You know, let me get it out the way it
did you bring it to a hole.
Speaker 11 (09:08):
Let me say this right now because see answer you
loves to make it. Because I'm the cousin Christian, it's
a hell no for me. First of all, once I've
established that you are my person, to think, just the
thought of not being able to be embraced, especially the
older I get.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Physical touches one of my love languages.
Speaker 11 (09:23):
And it means so much to me. So the thought
of not being able to be in the presence of
or being enveloped by my person.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
And I'm a kisser and I'm a good kisser.
Speaker 9 (09:32):
You understand.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
So I'm gonna need some sugar and a good time.
Go ahead, d okay.
Speaker 10 (09:37):
If you think you're going to have an online relationship
with a woman. And that's a psychiatrist, that's a phone,
a friend. That's crazy. You you have some type of illness,
you're lacking an area.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
That ain't your woman.
Speaker 10 (09:49):
Well, well, if we want to get technical with the situation,
and I tell the brothers I speak to all the
time when I at the men's meeting, she ain't never
really all the way, your woman is just your hern
Just be glad you have her now that it's just
your You don't own no woman. If y'all together, y'all
to gather that woman.
Speaker 8 (10:07):
Can leave you at any time.
Speaker 10 (10:09):
It ain't your woman. I'm talking about the married men too.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
It's just your time.
Speaker 10 (10:12):
Be glad you got it. But if you talking to
her on what they call it face time and zoom,
you're crazy. Are these women getting money and stuff from
these men? Because because nowadays these girls ain't playing, you
got to play for the babysitter before you take them out.
Don't act like I'm the only one. Don't act like
I'm the only one that heard of that saying these
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girls is like, look are we going out Saturday? Okay, fine,
cash at me some money so I can get my
nails done.
Speaker 8 (10:45):
This is our first day.
Speaker 10 (10:47):
Are you crazy? These young girls are business women. But
what it is is they got the game all messed up.
Now it's basically what can you do for me? Instead
of what can we do for each other? The game
is all the way messed up, and a lot of
the guys are playing into it. But what it is
(11:07):
is the men have so many options they just move
on to the next woman.
Speaker 11 (11:12):
Because it's exactly while I'm single.
Speaker 8 (11:15):
Yeah, but it's too many.
Speaker 10 (11:17):
It's two million more black women than it is black
men on this earth, so so so y'all out number us,
so we can pick and choose and do whatever we
want because there's so many more of them. When you
knock out people that the ugly man and the shortened
men you don't want, and the men that make twelve
dollars an hour. You know, y' y'all ain't got but
eighty three men to choose from you.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
So mean, you are mean.
Speaker 10 (11:43):
I'm giving you statistically true, I'm giving you facts. You
guys are too picky. We're here for the sex sometimes,
so y'all are too picky. Well, if he's not six
feet tall, if he don't make six figures, if he
don't have ads, this, this, this, y'all got eighty three
men to choose from. We don't care. We date anybody.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
We especially if you.
Speaker 9 (12:04):
Don't go only go be there for today.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
We date anybody.
Speaker 10 (12:08):
It don't matter. That's why average looking men are dating
pretty prey. Look how average jay Z looks.
Speaker 8 (12:14):
He got to me.
Speaker 10 (12:15):
I think Beyonce is a beautiful woman.
Speaker 9 (12:17):
Yon is a nine.
Speaker 12 (12:19):
Ten.
Speaker 9 (12:20):
Jay Z is a three.
Speaker 10 (12:21):
At best, But when he's standing on the fifty million dollars,
he's a ten.
Speaker 7 (12:25):
Now.
Speaker 10 (12:27):
But but if Beyonce walked into to Macy's and he's
in the perfume section, she ain't gonna pay that boy. No,
she ain't gonna give him a minute. She ain't gonna
get him a time of day because he's not attracted.
We go with anybody. Average looking men can get whatever
they want.
Speaker 13 (12:43):
Now.
Speaker 10 (12:44):
All you gotta do is have enough money to stand
on it, and the women are with you. You It is
not ever your woman, it's just your turn.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Cause he told us, Daisy, my god, the man who
it's it all together. For our podcast, Patty and the Millennials,
we've got Daddy Decks because he's a first time Dad Decks.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Are you surprised.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
By the cost of going to a concert these days,
whether it's a festival, whether it's a regular concert. Do
the prices surprise you to me? Some of them are alarming.
Speaker 10 (13:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (13:27):
I'm very surprised about the price that come of concerts
because I used to work for the station, so I
didn't have to pay for But now now I'm like, wait,
you is what y'all were paying before? Four hundred dollars
and then that's just to get one seed and then
you still got to do a convenience feedom Like, who
has the money for this?
Speaker 2 (13:44):
It's the convenient fees that really get on my nerves
because you're thinking, really, the convenient fees can wind up
being a little pricey, Yes, and.
Speaker 8 (13:54):
Then they add on like the Blake twice feed, the
standing up feed. Yeah, there's the park the parking scene.
I have to pay for parking at Wells Fargo recently
thirty five dollars. I'm like, I have to eat, I
have to drink, I have all these things I have
to do, and you guys are charging me an arm
and a leg for everything.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Well, nowadays, decks, people are putting their concert tickets on
lay away, or they're doing the buy I'll pay later.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Your thoughts on that there's.
Speaker 12 (14:27):
Not a single soul that I need to hear on
the microphone that I'm going to put on lailway that
I just cannot do.
Speaker 8 (14:32):
I'm listening at it on the iPod.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Really, so, there's no are a favorite artist that you
would just love to see A yante.
Speaker 8 (14:42):
Actually to come here and I have to put this
on the by now pay later thing. Look you, I
might have to put the seat y on somebody. You know,
somebody will post it on social media and I will
sit there and enjoy the conversation the concert from social media.
I can't do it, you know what.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
That's how I enjoyed Beyonce's Renaissance tour. I didn't feel
I didn't feel bad about my going because I practically
saw the whole thing online and felt like I was there.
Speaker 12 (15:10):
Fiance was the one the last counter that I went to.
I felt like I got hit over the heads. I'm like,
I paid so much money for these tickets. Great show,
but I paid so much money for these tickets. It's
just like it blows your mind.
Speaker 8 (15:22):
It really does.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
A new thing that's also happening is regarding to relationships.
There are people entering into relationships where it's only online.
There is no in person, there is no sex, there
is no touching, hugging, none of that. This is purely
(15:47):
a relationship on line.
Speaker 8 (15:54):
Oh I'm not.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
I'm for.
Speaker 8 (16:00):
People will get upset about being cat fished. Yeah, you
are having a saw a relationship solely online. You're not
gaining a real person.
Speaker 7 (16:07):
You're being catfished.
Speaker 8 (16:09):
I guarantee you. They're not showing their real images to
each other because what's the point. We're not gonna see
each other.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
But don't you That's it's kind of like odd, but
you know what it is.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
That's we are now in a I don't know a
time of life where people be thinking that this is
like acceptable because people don't want that human interaction.
Speaker 8 (16:32):
I can understand not wanting the human interaction in some
aspects of a relationship, but there's this one thing that
I feel like you need to have another person around
to you know, experience. I'll call it intimacy. But I mean,
I'm not dating nobody online. If we not haveing sex,
I'm just not gonna do it. Sex as important in
a relationship, the conversationship.
Speaker 12 (16:51):
We can do that remotely, but when we're talking to
have sex, we're not virtually doing that.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
We've got LaToya, Charleston, Chocla Divinity joining us on the
cash patty and the millennials. The rising costs of going
to see a show are going to a concert, Toya,
Are you surprised at some of the prices on some
of these shoes.
Speaker 9 (17:16):
Absolutely. It's so funny because even though you know, I
love the what I think a Denzel Washington, he's in
Ofello right now and on Broadway it's you know, star studded, acclaimed.
But from what I'm hearing, those tickets are going for
like six hundred dollars even regular concerts now most people
(17:37):
are paying one fifty to two hundred, and that's for
a just all right seat. And in my opinion of
this day and age, people are under financial stress so
much that you can't go the shows like you wanted
to before. And it's very important in my opinion, to
stay connected to the craft of live entertainment.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Well, guess what some people are doing what they're putting
the concert tickets on layaway, or they're doing the buy now,
pay later, and it's a lot of it's a lot
of millennials and Gen X that are doing this.
Speaker 8 (18:16):
Yeah, well that makes sense.
Speaker 9 (18:18):
Okay, I forgot you could do after paying things like
that with those flights Chiles. You can need to do
after pay with plane tickets, which I have done in
the past. So at least they are trying to make,
you know, ways to still make this happen. But at
the end of the day, a lot of these price
ticket prices, they're just over It's just too much at
the end of the day. So you wouldn't have to
(18:39):
do that if you wouldn't price them so high. Now
I can understand if you're trying to do, you know,
go to the Beyonce show and you're trying to be
a part of that be high you already know you
coming in at one thousand dollars. But if I just
want a regular seat, I'm sorry, I should not have
to pay over one hundred dollars for that.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
The thing that's going on, let's talk relationships.
Speaker 8 (19:06):
Okay, the new thing.
Speaker 7 (19:08):
The new thing.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Is you're in a relationship, but it's only online. There
is no in person, there is no sex, touching, holding, nothing,
it's only online.
Speaker 9 (19:24):
What in the love during lock up is going on?
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Here, I need you.
Speaker 9 (19:28):
I mean, listen, I guess to each their own. I
guess some people they just want that. You know, that's
emotional support.
Speaker 8 (19:35):
But at the end of the.
Speaker 9 (19:36):
Day, if it ain't, if we ain't going to get
to that on the level we're doing this for. I
got enough friends out here, I can I can go
get a pen pal somewhere else.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
I don't.
Speaker 9 (19:45):
I have a relationship with my friends, Like, I don't
need you for that, I need you for.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
The other part.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Well, do you think this is kind of like a
new form of being a pen down?
Speaker 7 (20:00):
I guess so.
Speaker 9 (20:01):
But it's funny because y'all about to get replaced with
AI because like chat GTT, because now chat eggs are
the new relationship. We can use them for everything. You know,
they're the new best friend. So I don't know's that's
weird to me? But again, to east their own, if
it works for you, no judgment.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
We gotta double doos. Today.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
We've got sex doctor head there, she's a real sexologist.
We also have the editor of a download news information
tours on Instagram, and we've got Whitney Roberts.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Hey, ladies, how you doing okay?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
How do you feel about the high price of concerts.
It costs so much for some of these shows.
Speaker 14 (20:47):
It does.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Oh my gosh, Patty.
Speaker 14 (20:49):
I am so mad though, because I feel like it's
a conspiracy because not only are the price high, but
these credit cards, Like I keep getting these emails from
my black my black American Airlines.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
City Bank card.
Speaker 14 (21:07):
They want to meet in cohoots with the concert people
now right, so they like, why don't you get a
bundle for twelve thousand dollars?
Speaker 3 (21:16):
I got twelve thousand dollars. Wow, on your card.
Speaker 14 (21:20):
You can go backstage, you can do all of this,
you can get I'm like, wait a minute, y'all are
so y'all are condoning these prices and you.
Speaker 9 (21:27):
Want me to put on a on this credit card?
Speaker 3 (21:31):
So I don't like it. This, this is what they're doing.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Whitney, how do you feel about these high concert I'm in.
Speaker 15 (21:39):
The same boat as doctor Heather, like why are we
paying so much for these shows? Like yes, there's like
really wonderful shows and these are sometimes like life like
life changing experiences, Like I know, I hear my friends
talk about Beyonce all the time and they're like, whatever
she asks you for, she's worth it, but like you know,
(22:00):
you're random artists that's ask you for hundreds of dollars
just to be in the room with them. I'm like, eh,
maybe not, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Well, you know what it is with the streaming the
artists are not getting the money that they want from
these streaming services, so they go out on tour.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
A lot of them are I'm the hottest thing out
right now.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
I'm gonna try to get as much money as i
can because next year the game will change and I
won't be this hot.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
So that's one reason. But a lot of people are
now doing thee by now, pay later or putting these
things on layaway, like their clothes.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
How do you feel about that?
Speaker 14 (22:43):
That's true, they are doing that.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (22:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
People are fans of Flaria.
Speaker 14 (22:50):
There's a concert that goes on every year in Rotterdam, okay, Amsterdam, Rotterdam.
And I went on to get tickets, like so it's
not until July, Patty, no Lie. I went on to
get tickets in like November of last year.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
It was sold out. Wow wow, I like that?
Speaker 14 (23:10):
Is that everywhere? Like is this happening everywhere or just
here in the United States?
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Because the tickets were actually reasonable.
Speaker 14 (23:17):
And it's called the North Seas Jazz Festival, and you
got all these people Rikabad dude like, but it's not
crazy expensive.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
Are the roots tickets expensive?
Speaker 2 (23:27):
It depends on what package, Whitney, Are you familiar with
these packages that they offer.
Speaker 15 (23:34):
For the Roots, No, I'm not familiar.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
But well, what they're doing is they're offering.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
You you get exclusive backstage, you get VIP seating, and
it's a lot. It's very different from just the regular tickets.
Speaker 15 (23:50):
Yeah, like the regular regular just going and enjoying the program.
Yeah all right, so just I'm gonna be the nerd
in the group. I'm not one of these gals that
just be out and about like the concerts and things
like that. But maybe so my opinion might be skewed.
But going into debt to go to a show, it
just don't feel right. Like watching my credit score drop,
(24:11):
which is already a scam unto itself, but watching my
credit score drop just because I really really wanted to
see the rapper of the moment, the singer of the moment,
and then I'm still paying off these tickets ten years
from five years, three years, a year from now feels
crazy to me. I'm like, but you know, like somebody's
(24:31):
gonna have clips on TikTok.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
It'll be fun exactly exactly, you know, with the Cowboy Carter,
I didn't feel bad that she wasn't coming to Philly
because I watched the entire renaissance on ig Okay, well
I felt like I was there. Yes, let's talk about relationships.
(24:57):
There's a new thing in relationships. People are having relationships online.
Let me stress. There's no sex, there's no hugging, there's
no kissing. You just have a relationship online only.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
There's no meeting. They're just online only. Yeah, your thoughts
on that.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Whitney, Whitney, have we come to this point in our lives?
Speaker 3 (25:30):
All right? All right? As the as the millennial and
the bunch.
Speaker 8 (25:33):
But I'm an elder.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Millennial, doctor Heather, I defer to you.
Speaker 15 (25:38):
But my initial reaction is really visceral because, like I
can understand, you know, people talk to each other online
all the time, like people are in constant conversation. In fact,
that's what social media is good for, fostering and generating conversation.
A relationship, though it feels like it involves more than
just a discussion and talking. It feels like it involves
(26:00):
more time and effort and getting to know people and
getting to be in people's vicinity. This feels I don't know,
Like the other day I saw I forget which platform
it was, but they were promoting being able to talk
to these AI bots the way you will talk to people,
and I'm like, but why when people are right there?
(26:21):
You are right there, I'm uncomfortable.
Speaker 8 (26:25):
I'm a little confused.
Speaker 15 (26:26):
But again, I'm no doctor, and I'm gonna defer to
the good doctor.
Speaker 14 (26:31):
Well, you know what, I agree with everything that you said.
So here's something for everyone to kind of think about.
When you have people who are just talking via online
or the phone or text messages and they're saying they're
in a partnership or relationship, ninety percent of the people
(26:51):
are in actual relationships with people that are physical Okay,
they are lacking the communication piece.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
So it's the same as cheating for people.
Speaker 14 (27:03):
Like they go and they seek out people that they
can communicate with because their partnership is not they're not communicating.
They're working, they're tired, they're all the things, and they
can be somebody else on the phone. Right, So that's
what you hit the nail on the head Whitney when
you said, you know, the social media stuff, that's what
(27:25):
it is. People can be somebody else. People don't want
to be themselves, right, So a lot of this online
and just on the phone relationships are because of that.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
People don't want to be who they actually are.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Wow, And we've got most se Lorene joining us in
most shame.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Do you like all the concerts?
Speaker 8 (27:47):
Love going to concerts?
Speaker 12 (27:49):
Are you?
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Are you appalled at the prices that some of these
concerts have?
Speaker 13 (27:59):
Oh my god, Patty, I'm telling you, I can really
dig into crazy on this one because I remember when
I first started going to concerts. In fact, it was
a powerhouse. I think it was one of my first concerts.
Speaker 8 (28:11):
Right, this is back when it was.
Speaker 13 (28:14):
Nine dollars and ninety nine cents.
Speaker 16 (28:17):
Okay, So does that speak to be a polemist if
that's the word. Yes, I am home at the price
of entertainment these says, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Well, a lot of people are doing the klarma thing
by now pay later or putting their concert tickets on layaway?
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Is that crazy?
Speaker 10 (28:42):
Betty?
Speaker 9 (28:43):
Betty, I'm gonna hang this phone up on you.
Speaker 7 (28:44):
Are you serious?
Speaker 9 (28:45):
I'm very serious. Yes, you know, here's the sad part
about that.
Speaker 13 (28:53):
It's funny as we talk about it, because I didn't
even know that was a thing, because I know they
do it for clothes and things.
Speaker 8 (29:00):
Like that, which I also think is crazy.
Speaker 13 (29:02):
But when you think about the people who are put
who are putting conplet tickets on railway, if you will,
it's like us, you know what I mean, which said
that we still have not, you know, gotten basically responsible
enough to know that we've got to stop spending our
money in places like that, like we're buying conplet tickets
(29:26):
for five and six hundred dollars, but yet we don't
see the value of buying our own homes and owning
something that has appreciated, appreciating value.
Speaker 9 (29:34):
That's crazy to me.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
I know. Another thing that may take you by surprise.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
A lot of people are opting to be in relationships
that are strictly online. There's no sex, there's no hugging,
there's no meeting. You just have this relationship online.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
That's it.
Speaker 7 (29:54):
Wow that you know what you know?
Speaker 13 (29:56):
I'm you know, I'm in my new single gum, so
I'm out here in these I don't necessarily want to.
Speaker 9 (30:01):
Be, but I will tell you that.
Speaker 13 (30:03):
The online thing for me has been it's been a
little tricky to navigate, and I do find that you
can establish some level of connection first, but then it
needs to get offline and get personal, right, it needs
to be up close and personal. I like the fact
(30:24):
that we can start some conbo there and we can
I can kind of like filter out whether or not
you know, I like the way you move, to like
the way you talk, and then I want to take
it and then I want to see it in real life.
So I don't know about having a full fledged relationship
child online. But I hear people are really getting in
in bed with AI like people are having AI girlfriends
(30:47):
and AI boyfriends. Yes, that's the thing I hear. Wait,
touch and feel and smell minds to touch feeling, smell
mind exactly.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
That is definitely not for me.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Author Kim read Optimus Always Wins is joining us? Kim,
Do you enjoy going to concerts?
Speaker 8 (31:12):
Of course?
Speaker 9 (31:12):
You know.
Speaker 7 (31:13):
I love the Dell and I can't wait for this summer.
Speaker 9 (31:18):
I do.
Speaker 6 (31:19):
I do love going to concerts, you know. But I
will tell you Patty back and I'm dating myself. But
back in the eighties and nineties. Those were concerts because
you had Michael Jackson, right, you had prints L L.
Cool Jay like right when he first came out. So
I just think there, I love going to concerts. Yes,
I think there's just a difference in generation and in
(31:44):
kind of the the elapse of time. Right, the concerts
are a little bit different now than they used to be.
I think that, you know.
Speaker 7 (31:51):
We had a lot of audience participations back in the day.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Well, one of the things that stands out from com
to from yesterday and today is the high prices on
these concert tickets. It could be a little it could
be a little investment going to a show nowaday, and
a lot of times it's because the artists do not
(32:17):
really make that money from the streaming, so they tack
it onto these shows. So what people are doing, they're
doing like the Klarma thing by now pay later or
putting their concert tickets on layaway.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Your thoughts. People are doing this. People are actually doing this.
Speaker 7 (32:41):
I'm telling you, Oh lord, I'm patty.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
You know, listen, no judgment because if you want to
go see Mary, you want to go see married.
Speaker 7 (32:50):
But I'm just not putting concert tickets on layweight. I
can't do that. There's so much more important things to do.
But I would tell you though I went to see
Rick Fry Phil don't judge me at in Camden. Those
tickets were those tickets where we were sitting were like
six hundred dollars.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Well, this is how people are dealing with the high
cost of tickets.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
They're putting them on layaway.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Another thing that's happening people in relationships only online. So
there is no kissing, hugging, meeting sex. This relationship is
strictly online. Have we come to this point in our
(33:41):
lives because there are people who have these AI people
and it's like they're real people.
Speaker 7 (33:49):
Satty, Lord, have mercy. See I didn't know you're gonna
hit me with this today, honey. And let me see
that between the between the six hundred dollars plus tickets
and being online on a relationship, you know, it tells
you where the world is moving to though right like
you know, we don't know how to spell why because
(34:10):
we text that we can be in a relationship and
text every single day and never talk to each other.
I think that's why the emotional intelligence in people like
you know, you don't know if you've hurt someone by
what you said, because you talk so much over text.
So I say all that to say that, you know, Patty,
I won't be single before I do an online relationship.
(34:31):
Only you know, where's the intimacy, where is the connection?
The talk? That one is not for me, girl, I
can't do it. It's not I'm gonna keep paying a
lot of money for concerts.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Then it's not for a lot of people. But this
is a.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Thing that people are actually doing. Kim, thank you so much.
This wraps up this calm this podcast edition to Patty.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
And the Millennials where we talk everything. The world is.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Changing, things are changing what we do, and we talk
about it. Big shout out to Daddy Decks putting everything together.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Patty and the Millennials. You will find this podcast where
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