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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
The new work treads.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Is it necessary to know some AI? In most work
instances people are unretiring. Maybe they're bored because they once
they retired, or they can't afford to retire, and that
harsh reality comes into play.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Is there a clash.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Between older workers younger workers and what's more important to
have a better attitude or a college degree? Representing colleges,
he's a senior at Saint Jose University. Reyes Green is
joining us. What do you think is more important as
you step out here in the world to do your thing.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
I think it's very important to not be scared of
AI and stuff like that that's being created and ushered
into this new generation. I mean, in classes right now,
we're literally utilizing AI to complete our assignments, Like the
schools is literally telling us to do it. Because here's
the thing. Everyone's scared that, oh AI is gonna take over,
get rid of human jobs and stuff like that. No,
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AI is just a tool what's gonna happen is gonna
weed out the people who can't use it or who
refuse to use it. So it's at this time we
have to just embrace it and use it to our benefits,
but don't let it take over because it literally cannot.
It is your tool and that you have to use
it and just use it wisely.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
That's all damn reed.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
He talking about me refusing to do it, But that
was the same way with social media. And now I'm
the beast on social media, but I was I was
like that.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I would not do social media.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
I saw it as more work and I don't have
time for that. And I had to learn to embrace it.
And it's a part of my life. I know, look
at me now, you're saying with this AI, because I
sat up in bed and was like what they're saying,
that you must embrace it.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Yes, because these companies are using it. These companies are
going to use it, and we're it's going to literally
become a job requirement on hey, do you know how
to use that? TVT simple as that.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
She's an author, She's the woman who does everything.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
I love this woman. Kim Reid, author of Optivists, always wins.
Joining us on the podcast Patty and the Millennials Kim,
we're talking about new work trends. Is it necessary to
know a I to survive in the workforce?
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Now? I don't. I don't.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
I don't think so. Maybe in some jobs, but not
in all. But is it like necessary? I was seeing
this report and you know what they said, you got
to know AI if you want to compete, said, really,
am I sure?
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Am age?
Speaker 5 (03:16):
First of all, I'm sorry, honey that I have to
laugh at that, because you are not showing your age,
okay at all? You AI is a big deal, right
it is. It is a huge, huge deal right now.
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And you know, is it going to take your job?
Speaker 6 (03:43):
Not?
Speaker 5 (03:44):
No, no, no, You better worry about a person taking
your job, not AI. Okay, That's why I love you.
I love that you bring these tactics up. And I
hesitate because AI clearly right now is at the forefront
of everything technology, innovation and in the world we live
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in and.
Speaker 7 (04:05):
In the workplace.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
But that's not going to that's not going to take
your job. Another person will take your job.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Okay. So let me ask you this question.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
What is more important a good attitude and work ethic
or college degree.
Speaker 8 (04:25):
Both.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
I was just having this conversation. I was just having
this conversation with with with one of my mentees. And
you know, listen, Patty, college is not for everyone, and
I understand that fully, but I want our young leaders
to understand something that life is already hard. Life is
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already competitive. Without a certain a level of education after
high school, you are making your life twice as hard,
especially this generation because of what you talked about AI. Right,
all of this technology and people are going back to school.
Speaker 7 (05:14):
Right.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
I'm doing my doctoral work right that I put off
because I know that for what I want to do
that I need that. So I say all that to
say that if you have the wherewithal the stamina to
go further in your education, whether it is a trade school,
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whether it is college, whether it is just educating yourself
with LinkedIn learnings or learnings online, you need to equip
yourself with the knowledge that is wealth. So what I
also will say is that Patty, is this, you have
to people, work with people they like. Period. I'll always
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outrun someone with that you have. When you have a
pure agenda of great attitude in your team player, those
three things will you will outrun anyone in your company,
in your in your job, in your in your restaurant.
Speaker 8 (06:18):
Wherever you work, because people want to.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
Work with people they like. No one owes you anything,
So showing up to work with a bad attitude and
you're in customer service ain't the right thing to do.
And yes, Patty, I'm educated, and I said.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Aim, the workforce is changing.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
There is no doubt the workforce is changing from AI
people unretiring. Yes, I said unretiring because that's what a
lot of people are doing.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Professional job seekers.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
They'll stay for a job for one day and then
they will never show up again.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
I did not know that that was a thing.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Is it more important have a better attitude or a
college degree? Daysia, have you ever heard of these professional
job seekers who show up but they never say.
Speaker 8 (07:10):
Oh my gosh, time I've heard of that.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
What people go but they don't they don't say a
work like what is that?
Speaker 4 (07:20):
I think it's also like so you get and I
also have to think of like a lot of things
with you getting to a place or like you know,
you want a job or you get somewhere, but it's
not what you thought it.
Speaker 7 (07:29):
Was going to be.
Speaker 6 (07:30):
And it's like, so you go there real quick, grab
that experience, but I know that's what I'm not staying here.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Wow, Toya, have you ever heard of that?
Speaker 7 (07:38):
I heard of it, and I have been an offender
of it in the past. I think for some people,
like I have gone to a job realized very early
on day one that this ain't it, and I.
Speaker 8 (07:50):
Have never gone back.
Speaker 7 (07:52):
But yes, there are these people who it's like you
constantly jump from job to job because you feel as
though they're not giving you everything that you need. But
let's be very clear, you're really kind of never going
to find that in the employment field, which I feel
like a lot of the younger generation that's why we're
seeing this so often, because they're not sitting around but nothing.
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They be sitting there and they be like, oh, you said, what,
let me go ahead and find another job because you
have somebody who like a real candidate who really might
have wanted that job and understands, you know, office politics
a bit more. But a lot of those people will
get short changed for the people and because a lot
of times they're like, oh, you know, they're always looking
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for talent that they don't have to pay as much okay,
which doesn't necessarily mean that that's a good thing, that
they are good for the job.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
But this is why we in this pickle.
Speaker 7 (08:46):
We are now in this job market.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
What about have you heard about people on retiring.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
Time?
Speaker 7 (08:54):
Yeah? When you go into these stores like I'll see
it all the time, like CBS, I'll go to targets
from Walmart, and you can tell the state of the
economy when you walk in these stores and you see
a lot of senior citizens working where normally kids these
would be after school job for kids or summer jobs
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for kids. Now it's the seniors that are there. So
it's just it's a weird time right now and the
economy and hopefully we just we get passed in get
through it as unscathed as possible.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Child the surprising new work trends.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
I saw huh report that said how you must have
some AI experience to exist in the workplace. And I
was sitting there like, what, LEXI have you heard of
something like that?
Speaker 7 (09:51):
No?
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah, I'm telling you they said you got to know.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Some sort Now is this in corporate America to survive?
I guess some industries of the of the arts, DESI,
have you heard of this.
Speaker 6 (10:09):
Auntie, I have never heard of a I experienced, like, okay.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
We just learned how to get this, uh, you know,
content together. And I don't know about a I know
about et oh home, I don't know about this.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Have you ever heard about professional job seekers? They will
show up on tay one and then they never show
back up.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
This is a thing. No, this is a thing.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
I had some money breaking down for me and I
was again, I'm like, what.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Do you get a bonus for just coming?
Speaker 3 (10:44):
And well, well, with unemployment, you got to show up
for every job that they send you on y'all, and
so you.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Listen, I'll be out here busing my tailor go to work,
care on it. I need to catch a little hint
from this.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Yeah, and it's something that's happening. LEXI, what your thoughts
on AI? Do you think it's not necessary for every job?
Speaker 2 (11:10):
But it's amazing that they're saying you must know this
to compete.
Speaker 6 (11:15):
I'm not surprised. And it's like the evolution in every
other aspect of what we see our industries go through.
We had to learn the Internet, then we had to
learn these smartphone devices. We had to incorporate AI that
in its original existence, which is like that that completing
your text. So AI's been around for years.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
It's not new.
Speaker 6 (11:37):
Just how we interacted with it was different, but it's
been kind of peppered into our everyday lives over and
over and over again through all of these apps that
we use, through the facial recognition features that people use
when they're doing their little Facebook posts and stuff. And
so I'm not surprised that now we're to a point where, yeah,
you do need to be able to use it and
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interact with it in order to do some of the
these jobs, because it is becoming one of the most
used tools now in every industry.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Have you heard about people unretiring? Yes, wow, why do you?
Speaker 3 (12:14):
I mean, obviously they're unretiring because of the money situation.
A lot of people are not prepared to retire in reality.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
Yeah, yeah, and I think, at least from you know,
personal experience with those who have unretired, some of it
is financial and some of it is boredom like like
some of it also too is like you know what,
I thought I was going to want to just kick
back and relax and chill, but there's so many things
going on and when you are doing work that you're
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passionate about. That's where I see a lot of that
unretirement happening too, is that people have maybe retired from
one profession, but now they're doing the thing that maybe
they were always passionate about. And so it could be
financial reasons, but there's so many social emotional benefits to
it that that's another reason why I'm hearing of people
I'm retiring.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Okay, I saw that this morning on the news. People,
it's boredom.
Speaker 7 (13:11):
You know.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
At first, you may see I'm going to travel and
spend time my family, and then boredom sets in.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
So that is a real thing.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Here's a question for you, Lexi, is it more important
to have a college degree or great work ethic?
Speaker 6 (13:27):
I think that you need the work ethic more than
anything in this day and age. Not saying that college
degrees are not valuable. Absolutely they are depending on the
industry that you are in. But what I know is
that in order to sustain these careers beyond what you
learned in college, you need to have a strong work ethic.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Ooh, schooling me every day.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Whitney Roberts Tyr. She's a popular blogger. She's the senior
editor of Philly Download and the New Workforce Trends. I
was watching US segment on TV Whitney, and there was
a woman on there saying, you must know AI to
compete in the workplace.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Is that? Is that for real? Look at me showing
Look at me showing my age.
Speaker 6 (14:15):
Oh gosh, I must be showing mine too, because I
can't do it. I cannot rely on AI.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
I don't know if you.
Speaker 6 (14:22):
Saw recently about like how Google had to read they
had to redo something with their AI because AI was
getting complete wrong, incorrect answers. And we can't even tell
people to go Google something anymore because now the AI
is messing up Google's like reputation.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
So wow, Yeah, this woman was up there and it
really really you know, just it just made.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Me shake my head.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
What's more important, Whitney having a college degree or good
work ethic and attitude? Because you can have the degree
in your hand, but if you got a nassy attitude
or you don't have a good work ethic, I'm.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
Gonna I'm going to say that the work ethic is
always going to outweigh the degree, because here's the thing.
You can have the work ethic and you can have
the experience, and you can have the drive to do
a job, and you can get the degree later if
it's if that's important for the work that you're doing. However,
there's a whole lot of people who have a whole
lot of degrees and don't have a lick of common sense.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
They don't have a.
Speaker 6 (15:26):
Lick of customer service, they don't have a lick of
can do attitude. And I would much rather work with
a person who has the work ethic, who is hungry
to do the thing but might need to be taught
some technical skills than the person who has all the
technical knowledge.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
And it's just nasty.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
The new work trends, how do you survive in the
workplace today?
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Dex is joining us dex.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
I was watching this segment and they were saying that
you must know AI to survive in the workforce today?
Is that for real?
Speaker 8 (16:03):
I don't necessarily know if you need to know AI,
but I think you need to be comfortable with it
because there's a lot of things that I use for
work that use CHET GPT and that does use AI
voices and whatnot. And if you're like, oh, I don't
know what that is, I'm not familiar with it might
get rid of yourself, Like you definitely need to know
what it is. I don't think we're at a point
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where it has taken over completely, but it's definitely a
tool that people are using, and you know how it starts.
Use this tool if it works out well, like we're
going to implement it.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Professional job seekers. Are you aware of these people? Because
it's a real thing.
Speaker 8 (16:42):
Professional job sees.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
They get a job because when you go on unemployment,
you got to show up where they send you.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
They may work for one day and then leave.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Someone has I know somebody has a business and they said,
but they don't even stay.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Hey, they show off for one day and don't come back.
I was like, for.
Speaker 8 (17:04):
I know them people very well. You know what I
would say about that. What scares me about that is
I know them. And then I know people who literally
want a job so bad and they can't get one.
But these professional jobs because they stay with a job,
like they don't keep the job, and it's just like,
well why did you do it? And then you realize
like some people are like, oh I can't make a
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certain amount of money, or they'll take me off my benefits,
or I can't do this, that or the third. It's
always like some type of scammy thing and it's just like,
I'll get you a job and keep the job.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Ooh what about Or did you realize that a lot
of people are retiring right? But then they retire the
reasons you say, I want to see the world while
you're going you see the world. Oh, I want to
spend time with my family. You get tired of your family.
Boredom sets in boredom for a lot boredom it's like,
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oh my gosh, what do I do now? Or some
people retire and realize, damn, I can't afford this.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
They're unretired retired.
Speaker 8 (18:10):
My dad retired last year, and I want him to
unretire himself. He calls me every single day and I
can tell that he's bored go to work, Like y'all
got any openers that he needs a job.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Wow, Well, they said that a lot of people are bored,
but there are a lot of people who got to
get a side hustle in order to sarrive.
Speaker 8 (18:31):
And when people say that they're retiring and stuff like that,
I'm like, well, how is that possible? Because a lot
of us are in here, are struggling, like we're putting
tennis together. Like, how what did you do? Give me
some tips?
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Yes, what's better? Do you have a college degree or
a good work.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Ethic and a good attitude? What do you think it's
more important? It's almost impossible to have both.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
It is.
Speaker 8 (18:59):
I think the work ethic is more important. It's just
that I think the college degree these days opens up
more doors for you. So like it's weird because like
I think a work, a good work as a beat,
and it beats the degree in the day. Realistically speaking, however,
it doesn't matter how good my work ethic if I'm
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not getting interviews or getting hired somewhere that's gonna pay
me a livable way. So I guess I have.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
To say the degree.
Speaker 8 (19:26):
But truthfully, I know a lot of people with degrees
who are the worst workshipic f but like the their
job secrets, they're the worst people to work with.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
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