September 10, 2024 • 18 mins
Did you catch the Presidential Debate? Have you heard the talk surrounding immigration? Immigration is a complex issue that involves economic, social, and humanitarian factors, but is it the biggest issue we are facing as a country? Patty and the crew discuss.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Whether it's life, relationships, politics, or current events, nothing is
off limits. This is the Patty and the Millennials podcast,
powered by ACME Markets, helping to bridge the gap between
baby boomers, gen X and millennials.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Welcome to the podcast conversation Patty and the Millennials. I'm
Patty Jackson. I'm a radio vet out in Philadelphia who
loves conversation. I'm a baby boomer. We've got millennials, we've
got gen X, and now we've got jen z ree
Screen is joining us. He's a senior at Saint Jose University.
(00:35):
The question to you, g reecee, you look at these
political ads, right, and you would think that immigration was
the number one problem in this country. I think there
are tones of racism in them because it makes you
seem like immigrants are just here to rob and kill us,
And that's not the truth. Now, immigration is a problem
(00:58):
because like, where are these people? You know, when they're
filing into the country, you too sit there and say
where they going? Because we are problems here in America. Reece,
do you think that immigration is the number one problem
in this country?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
No?
Speaker 4 (01:16):
I don't actually think immigration is the number one problem.
I think the number one problem is people not willing
to accept others in their differences and stuff like that,
especially when it comes to racism and xenophobia. I mean,
look at America. We are a country that's literally built
by immigrants. Nobody's really from you except for the Native
Americans if we pushed them away, which is ridiculous. So
(01:37):
this is a country that should accept everybody, no matter what,
because that's literally where our flendars are from. A simple
as that.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
If you look at the television ads, I don't know
about you, but I'm so tired of these political ads,
you would think that immigration is the number one problem
in our country.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
Is it a problem?
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Is it the number one problem in my opinion?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
No?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
And some of these ads just border one a racist
tone when you think of immigrants and immigrants built this country.
But that's a whole other topic. Whitney Roberts is here.
She's the senior editor of the Philly Download. What do
you think is the number one problem facing our country?
Speaker 6 (02:27):
My goodness, where do we even start? Because, like you
just you teed that up for me. I certainly don't
think that immigration is a problem. I think it's very
interesting that when we talk about the face of immigration.
We never talk about European immigration and how a lot
of folks from Europe come over and they are just
as undocumented as somebody who might come through the southern border,
but suddenly you're not paying attention to them. But we'll
(02:50):
put that to us aside.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
I think that the major.
Speaker 6 (02:53):
Problem is the economy, Like people cannot.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
Pay their bills.
Speaker 6 (02:57):
People are, you know, stuck between provided putting food on
the table and paying rent.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
I think that that's a real struggle. I think that's
the real problem.
Speaker 6 (03:06):
And whether you live in a big city or you
live in the mountains of Appalachia or you live out west, like,
folks are just trying to feed their families and take
care of their families, and there's not enough being done
about that. But people want to make want to make
immigration the big boogeyman and it's not realistic.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Do you think there are racist undertones in that, because
there's a fear factor when they talk about immigrants and
they've done this and they've done that, it's like every
damn commercial break.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
M hm mm hmm.
Speaker 6 (03:35):
Absolutely, there's absolutely a racist undertone to that. It's this
big brown boogeyman that's gonna come and like eat your
children and burn your cities and.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
All these things like that.
Speaker 6 (03:45):
Never mind the fact that historically we know that's simply
not true that immigrants, that the majority of immigrants coming
to this country have a very low crime rate. And
I'm not saying it's impossible. I'm not saying that crimes
haven't happened. What I'm saying is, if we look statistical,
if we look at statistic data, the majority, the vast
majority of immigrants in this nation are law abiding. Like
(04:07):
they don't want to break the laws, they don't want
to get kicked out, they don't want to get in trouble,
they don't want to.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
Ruffle any feathers.
Speaker 6 (04:12):
And so when we look at those things, there's definitely
a racist undertone. But it's easy to play on racist
undertones when there's already racism embedded in the culture.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Author Kim Reid is joining US motivational speaker Kim just
does it all, Kim, when you look at the problems
that are facing America. If you look at the TV ads,
they say immigration, immigration, immigration, and whereas immigration is a problem, but.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
Is it the problem?
Speaker 2 (04:46):
You know, there's crime, there's you know, the job for
you know, medicare. There's just so many other things. Do
you think that immigration is the leading or is this
the narra narrative to scare people? Because there's underlying racial
tones in that method, No question.
Speaker 7 (05:08):
About it, no question about it. And thank you, by
the way for saying that I do it all. I try,
I try, I try. But seriously, you know, our nation
right now is very divided, Patty, and it's unfortunate because
you know, people prior in office created this negative and
(05:29):
fearful narrative about immigration being the highlight of the problem
to convolute the other problems right that we have in
our nation and also to place blame on the current administration.
Immigration is an issue, it's not the only issue. The
(05:49):
issue is the stability of our nation and its totality.
So you can't look at this one dimensional. You have
to look get this through the kaleidoscope that it is.
And I know that you know, media also spans the
flame a bit, right, you have your certain news outlets
(06:11):
that do that. But what I want people to understand
and walk away with is this, the nation has several issues,
and we have several accomplishments, but the kaleidoscope of issues
is at the forefront, and we have to pay attention
to those. We have to understand what the platforms are,
(06:33):
we have to understand what perhaps the strategies or the
solutions can be. And we also have to understand that
the nation itself is in a sense of uncertainty and instability,
and these issues can make the problems more problematic, if
(06:56):
you will, if we don't do the right thing.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
In November, Dasia and Toya are here the podcast conversation
Patty and the Millennials. When you think about the problems
that are ailing this country, right, do you think that
immigration is the number one problem?
Speaker 5 (07:18):
I say no.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
I think it's used as a political scare tactic. It's
a problem. I'm not saying it's that problem, but I
think it's being used as a scare tactic underlying racial
tones to think that immigrants of people from other countries
are here to kill and rob us. That's the underlying terms,
(07:39):
when that's not the issue with many of them.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
There needs to.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Be control because it's crazy because well, where they're all going.
We have problems in America. Toya, We're going to start
with you.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
It's funny because it is a huge problem, but it
is not the only problem or the biggest problem we
have in the States. And you're correct, Patty. They absolutely
use this as a scapegoat. Now, I'm not saying that
these bad things are happening, because it is happening. I mean,
I feel like every time you turn around, it's a
new news story about what an illegal immigrant, some offense
(08:20):
that they've done to someone here. But you are correct,
it is a ploy to kind of basically make up
the Biden administration look horrible, and people don't even really,
you know, they kind of forget about how we got
in this immigration you know, pickle, that we were in anyway,
it was all Trump and his cronies deciding not to
(08:42):
sign off on the bill. But for voters, please pay
real attention. Understand when the dog is being wagged in
front of you, focus on the real issues at hand.
Just don't look at the ads and take them as
you know, Bible looking at them. Do what you're supposed
(09:02):
to do, do your proper research. But no, that is
not the biggest problem here in America.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Inflation, child, Daja, what do you think the number one
problem is in our country?
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Oh? The number one problem. That's hard for me to
pick you here and pick one of those.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
But I can tell you that immigration definitely is not
the problem at all.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Is immigration the number one problem in this country? If
you look at political ads, that's you would think that
was it, Like, we don't have any other problems but immigration.
But whereas immigration it's a problem. Is it the number
one problem? This is the podcast conversation Patty and the Millennials.
(09:50):
I'm Patty Jackson. We've got LETSI, We've got DESI. Does
he do you think immigration is the number one problem
in our country?
Speaker 8 (10:00):
You know, I try to get on here and not
cus but there's so many wonderful topics that just make
me cuskanti.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
That is the least of our worries.
Speaker 8 (10:09):
And you know the really funny thing about this, The
people that holler the most about immigration are the main
people who have Folks who do their eye jobs or
their colored jobs or whatever they want to call them
the most.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
They are the people cleaning, they are the people driving,
they are the people cutting the grass. But folks have
so much, you know, problem with immigration.
Speaker 6 (10:27):
No.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
First of all, some of us, well I can speak
for myself. I'm mixed. So my father was Jamaican, right,
he's now going on to be with the Lord.
Speaker 8 (10:35):
My Jamaican heritage has provided so much insight for me
about my blackness that America couldn't. A lot of my
African American pride stems from being Jamaican and knowing about
my heritage of the Caribbean. And so I think people
are using this as a cocamani excuse, But you really
really are coranty if you speak this language. But in
(10:55):
the in the background and in your yard, where do
you find?
Speaker 5 (10:58):
What do you find? And shut up?
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Lexi, What do you think is the number one problem
in this country?
Speaker 5 (11:08):
Ah, it's definitely not immigration. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 9 (11:12):
So I think one of the issues that I believe
is plaguing our country is systemic racism. And I'm going
to speak from my lens as a doula serving in
this black maternal health space. I'm constantly seeing where we
as black women in these communities, regardless of what your
socio economic status.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Is, we're fighting for our lives.
Speaker 9 (11:33):
Just this morning, I'm talking to a fellow birth worker
about a mama who lost her child. We're talking about
another mama who is struggling with postpartum and these are
the stories that continue to be replicated all throughout this country.
And yet while we're working to try to improve these outcomes,
(11:53):
provide resources and support, the system isn't always set up
to be able to by that added layer of support
like it should. So when we're charged with people being
uninsured or underinsured, and when we're sitting here dealing with
walking into these very health systems, that is support to
serve you, But yet you're being met with neglect and
(12:16):
mistreatment and fathers are being ignored. So I would say
that is probably one of the biggest issues that we're
still facing because that is one that if black people
continue to be treated for me and we are, and
we are discouraged at every turn in every system from
economic to education and healthcare, then no one in this
country is safe.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
What's the main problem in this country? You look at
the TV ads, it's immigration. To me, there are undertones
of racism in these ads, and you think that every
immigrant that comes into the country is going to rob
and kill you. Now, is immigration a problem? It is,
but is it the problem? These political ads drive me crazy.
(13:02):
Can't believe you've got like at least uh six more
weeks for it to happen. Is immigration the number one
problem in this country?
Speaker 7 (13:15):
Oh?
Speaker 10 (13:15):
Golf, Uh, it's immigration the number one boy. I can
tell you ten other things that may be the number
one problem in this country exactly immigration. No, you know,
immigration is political right now, it's not it's not really
a it's a problem. It's not the major problem. It's
just the political problem. And it gets people going. You know,
(13:36):
when you when you're tapping into people's racism and the
things they that's gonna get them to the polls. Then
you're gonna tell them that the immigration uh of people
overrunning your country is a problem, and then they'll run
out there and and and go vote for you because
you're you're gonna fight that immigration.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
You know.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
To me, it has some racial undertones definitely, you know.
And if I was Latino, I would feel a certain way.
Speaker 10 (14:08):
What's interesting is they a lot of Latinos, don't they?
They some of them are you know, And I have
to say this this miss may sting a little bit,
but you know how you moved into a neighborhood and
ain't nobody there that look like you? Yeah, and then
as soon as one come in, you want to know
who let them in? There's some Latino people who are saying,
(14:33):
who let them people in and and they look just
like them. There are some people are racist towards their
own people.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Wow, and that that that that's it's such a shame.
What do you think is the burning problem in our
country at this moment? Is it the economy that people
gotta they gotta have a side gig.
Speaker 10 (15:00):
It's it's I don't think the economy is back. I
think people are choosing what they want to work for.
You know, everybody the gig economies come in, so everyone's
working the gig economy. I think the problem is the
value of people. People valuing their employees. People don't value
them anymore, and so now people who are running to
(15:22):
the gig economy is hurting traditional employment. So people don't
want to work for those employers. If I can go
get a check myself and I deal with the nonsense.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Looking at the cv ads, you would think that immigration
is the number one problem in the country.
Speaker 9 (15:42):
I don't think.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
So we've got dexter. Dexter is immigration the number one problem?
It's a problem, but is it the problem in this country?
Speaker 11 (15:54):
I don't think that immigration is the problem in the country,
but I think it's the one thing that Donald Trump
has been able to capitalize on.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Because we're all going to say.
Speaker 11 (16:04):
That healthcare is a problem, the economic wage gap is
a problem. Gun shootings and gun control is the problems.
We're all going to agree on that to an extent.
But Donald Trump and the Republicans have done an amazing
job with alienating the Democratic base and making it look
like the Democrats are completely okay with illegal immigration, and
(16:25):
like the Democrats don't fight back hard enough to be like, no, actually,
we don't think this is okay, And like Donald Trump
and the Republicans, they just run with it. Like it's
almost crazy the way they do it, Because sometimes I'll
sit back and I look like, do you think the
rest of us are okay with this?
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Like?
Speaker 4 (16:41):
What are you talking about? Absolutely not.
Speaker 11 (16:43):
It's not the biggest problem. It is a problem, but
it's not the biggest problem that we're facing the centry.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Okay, waves gap is.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Though, Yeah, that that is a problem. The shootings in
this country. Just picked up my phone and it was
a shooting in Georgia at a high school. That is
definitely a problem, but they have run with it. But
on the flip side, It's like, y'all are one trick pony.
You want to scare people, scare tactics underlying racism. Immigrants
(17:15):
built this country, which people tend to forget. And yes,
that whole situation needs to be monitored and looked at,
but that's the only message that they have. It's like,
can you talk about how y'all can help this country
where people don't have to get side jobs to survive
(17:36):
and you know, and things like that.
Speaker 11 (17:39):
You're telling me that the illegal immigration is the biggest
issue where people are working two or three jobs and
still can't afford grocery. People are still struggling to get
healthcare based on their race in pre existing conditions. But
you want to tell me that illegal immigration is the
biggest issue we have to worry about.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Make it make sense.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
This is the podcast conversation Patty and the Millennials. Thanks
so much for joining us, because conversation is important, whether
you agree or disagree. Find us where we live, Spotify, Pandora,
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Patty Jackson. The podcast Patty and the Millennials
Whether it's life, relationships, politics, or current events, nothing is
off limits. This is the Patty and the Millennials podcast,
powered by ACME Markets, helping to bridge the gap between
baby boomers, gen X and millennials.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Welcome to the podcast conversation Patty and the Millennials. I'm
Patty Jackson. I'm a radio vet out in Philadelphia who
loves conversation. I'm a baby boomer. We've got millennials, we've
got gen X, and now we've got jen z ree
Screen is joining us. He's a senior at Saint Jose University.
(00:35):
The question to you, g reecee, you look at these
political ads, right, and you would think that immigration was
the number one problem in this country. I think there
are tones of racism in them because it makes you
seem like immigrants are just here to rob and kill us,
And that's not the truth. Now, immigration is a problem
(00:58):
because like, where are these people? You know, when they're
filing into the country, you too sit there and say
where they going? Because we are problems here in America. Reece,
do you think that immigration is the number one problem
in this country?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
No?
Speaker 4 (01:16):
I don't actually think immigration is the number one problem.
I think the number one problem is people not willing
to accept others in their differences and stuff like that,
especially when it comes to racism and xenophobia. I mean,
look at America. We are a country that's literally built
by immigrants. Nobody's really from you except for the Native
Americans if we pushed them away, which is ridiculous. So
(01:37):
this is a country that should accept everybody, no matter what,
because that's literally where our flendars are from. A simple
as that.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
If you look at the television ads, I don't know
about you, but I'm so tired of these political ads,
you would think that immigration is the number one problem
in our country.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
Is it a problem?
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Is it the number one problem in my opinion?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
No?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
And some of these ads just border one a racist
tone when you think of immigrants and immigrants built this country.
But that's a whole other topic. Whitney Roberts is here.
She's the senior editor of the Philly Download. What do
you think is the number one problem facing our country?
Speaker 6 (02:27):
My goodness, where do we even start? Because, like you
just you teed that up for me. I certainly don't
think that immigration is a problem. I think it's very
interesting that when we talk about the face of immigration.
We never talk about European immigration and how a lot
of folks from Europe come over and they are just
as undocumented as somebody who might come through the southern border,
but suddenly you're not paying attention to them. But we'll
(02:50):
put that to us aside.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
I think that the major.
Speaker 6 (02:53):
Problem is the economy, Like people cannot.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
Pay their bills.
Speaker 6 (02:57):
People are, you know, stuck between provided putting food on
the table and paying rent.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
I think that that's a real struggle. I think that's
the real problem.
Speaker 6 (03:06):
And whether you live in a big city or you
live in the mountains of Appalachia or you live out west, like,
folks are just trying to feed their families and take
care of their families, and there's not enough being done
about that. But people want to make want to make
immigration the big boogeyman and it's not realistic.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Do you think there are racist undertones in that, because
there's a fear factor when they talk about immigrants and
they've done this and they've done that, it's like every
damn commercial break.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
M hm mm hmm.
Speaker 6 (03:35):
Absolutely, there's absolutely a racist undertone to that. It's this
big brown boogeyman that's gonna come and like eat your
children and burn your cities and.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
All these things like that.
Speaker 6 (03:45):
Never mind the fact that historically we know that's simply
not true that immigrants, that the majority of immigrants coming
to this country have a very low crime rate. And
I'm not saying it's impossible. I'm not saying that crimes
haven't happened. What I'm saying is, if we look statistical,
if we look at statistic data, the majority, the vast
majority of immigrants in this nation are law abiding. Like
(04:07):
they don't want to break the laws, they don't want
to get kicked out, they don't want to get in trouble,
they don't want to.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
Ruffle any feathers.
Speaker 6 (04:12):
And so when we look at those things, there's definitely
a racist undertone. But it's easy to play on racist
undertones when there's already racism embedded in the culture.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Author Kim Reid is joining US motivational speaker Kim just
does it all, Kim, when you look at the problems
that are facing America. If you look at the TV ads,
they say immigration, immigration, immigration, and whereas immigration is a problem, but.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
Is it the problem?
Speaker 2 (04:46):
You know, there's crime, there's you know, the job for
you know, medicare. There's just so many other things. Do
you think that immigration is the leading or is this
the narra narrative to scare people? Because there's underlying racial
tones in that method, No question.
Speaker 7 (05:08):
About it, no question about it. And thank you, by
the way for saying that I do it all. I try,
I try, I try. But seriously, you know, our nation
right now is very divided, Patty, and it's unfortunate because
you know, people prior in office created this negative and
(05:29):
fearful narrative about immigration being the highlight of the problem
to convolute the other problems right that we have in
our nation and also to place blame on the current administration.
Immigration is an issue, it's not the only issue. The
(05:49):
issue is the stability of our nation and its totality.
So you can't look at this one dimensional. You have
to look get this through the kaleidoscope that it is.
And I know that you know, media also spans the
flame a bit, right, you have your certain news outlets
(06:11):
that do that. But what I want people to understand
and walk away with is this, the nation has several issues,
and we have several accomplishments, but the kaleidoscope of issues
is at the forefront, and we have to pay attention
to those. We have to understand what the platforms are,
(06:33):
we have to understand what perhaps the strategies or the
solutions can be. And we also have to understand that
the nation itself is in a sense of uncertainty and instability,
and these issues can make the problems more problematic, if
(06:56):
you will, if we don't do the right thing.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
In November, Dasia and Toya are here the podcast conversation
Patty and the Millennials. When you think about the problems
that are ailing this country, right, do you think that
immigration is the number one problem?
Speaker 5 (07:18):
I say no.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
I think it's used as a political scare tactic. It's
a problem. I'm not saying it's that problem, but I
think it's being used as a scare tactic underlying racial
tones to think that immigrants of people from other countries
are here to kill and rob us. That's the underlying terms,
(07:39):
when that's not the issue with many of them.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
There needs to.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Be control because it's crazy because well, where they're all going.
We have problems in America. Toya, We're going to start
with you.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
It's funny because it is a huge problem, but it
is not the only problem or the biggest problem we
have in the States. And you're correct, Patty. They absolutely
use this as a scapegoat. Now, I'm not saying that
these bad things are happening, because it is happening. I mean,
I feel like every time you turn around, it's a
new news story about what an illegal immigrant, some offense
(08:20):
that they've done to someone here. But you are correct,
it is a ploy to kind of basically make up
the Biden administration look horrible, and people don't even really,
you know, they kind of forget about how we got
in this immigration you know, pickle, that we were in anyway,
it was all Trump and his cronies deciding not to
(08:42):
sign off on the bill. But for voters, please pay
real attention. Understand when the dog is being wagged in
front of you, focus on the real issues at hand.
Just don't look at the ads and take them as
you know, Bible looking at them. Do what you're supposed
(09:02):
to do, do your proper research. But no, that is
not the biggest problem here in America.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Inflation, child, Daja, what do you think the number one
problem is in our country?
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Oh? The number one problem. That's hard for me to
pick you here and pick one of those.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
But I can tell you that immigration definitely is not
the problem at all.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Is immigration the number one problem in this country? If
you look at political ads, that's you would think that
was it, Like, we don't have any other problems but immigration.
But whereas immigration it's a problem. Is it the number
one problem? This is the podcast conversation Patty and the Millennials.
(09:50):
I'm Patty Jackson. We've got LETSI, We've got DESI. Does
he do you think immigration is the number one problem
in our country?
Speaker 8 (10:00):
You know, I try to get on here and not
cus but there's so many wonderful topics that just make
me cuskanti.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
That is the least of our worries.
Speaker 8 (10:09):
And you know the really funny thing about this, The
people that holler the most about immigration are the main
people who have Folks who do their eye jobs or
their colored jobs or whatever they want to call them
the most.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
They are the people cleaning, they are the people driving,
they are the people cutting the grass. But folks have
so much, you know, problem with immigration.
Speaker 6 (10:27):
No.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
First of all, some of us, well I can speak
for myself. I'm mixed. So my father was Jamaican, right,
he's now going on to be with the Lord.
Speaker 8 (10:35):
My Jamaican heritage has provided so much insight for me
about my blackness that America couldn't. A lot of my
African American pride stems from being Jamaican and knowing about
my heritage of the Caribbean. And so I think people
are using this as a cocamani excuse, But you really
really are coranty if you speak this language. But in
(10:55):
the in the background and in your yard, where do
you find?
Speaker 5 (10:58):
What do you find? And shut up?
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Lexi, What do you think is the number one problem
in this country?
Speaker 5 (11:08):
Ah, it's definitely not immigration. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 9 (11:12):
So I think one of the issues that I believe
is plaguing our country is systemic racism. And I'm going
to speak from my lens as a doula serving in
this black maternal health space. I'm constantly seeing where we
as black women in these communities, regardless of what your
socio economic status.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Is, we're fighting for our lives.
Speaker 9 (11:33):
Just this morning, I'm talking to a fellow birth worker
about a mama who lost her child. We're talking about
another mama who is struggling with postpartum and these are
the stories that continue to be replicated all throughout this country.
And yet while we're working to try to improve these outcomes,
(11:53):
provide resources and support, the system isn't always set up
to be able to by that added layer of support
like it should. So when we're charged with people being
uninsured or underinsured, and when we're sitting here dealing with
walking into these very health systems, that is support to
serve you, But yet you're being met with neglect and
(12:16):
mistreatment and fathers are being ignored. So I would say
that is probably one of the biggest issues that we're
still facing because that is one that if black people
continue to be treated for me and we are, and
we are discouraged at every turn in every system from
economic to education and healthcare, then no one in this
country is safe.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
What's the main problem in this country? You look at
the TV ads, it's immigration. To me, there are undertones
of racism in these ads, and you think that every
immigrant that comes into the country is going to rob
and kill you. Now, is immigration a problem? It is,
but is it the problem? These political ads drive me crazy.
(13:02):
Can't believe you've got like at least uh six more
weeks for it to happen. Is immigration the number one
problem in this country?
Speaker 7 (13:15):
Oh?
Speaker 10 (13:15):
Golf, Uh, it's immigration the number one boy. I can
tell you ten other things that may be the number
one problem in this country exactly immigration. No, you know,
immigration is political right now, it's not it's not really
a it's a problem. It's not the major problem. It's
just the political problem. And it gets people going. You know,
(13:36):
when you when you're tapping into people's racism and the
things they that's gonna get them to the polls. Then
you're gonna tell them that the immigration uh of people
overrunning your country is a problem, and then they'll run
out there and and and go vote for you because
you're you're gonna fight that immigration.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
You know.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
To me, it has some racial undertones definitely, you know.
And if I was Latino, I would feel a certain way.
Speaker 10 (14:08):
What's interesting is they a lot of Latinos, don't they?
They some of them are you know, And I have
to say this this miss may sting a little bit,
but you know how you moved into a neighborhood and
ain't nobody there that look like you? Yeah, and then
as soon as one come in, you want to know
who let them in? There's some Latino people who are saying,
(14:33):
who let them people in and and they look just
like them. There are some people are racist towards their
own people.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Wow, and that that that that's it's such a shame.
What do you think is the burning problem in our
country at this moment? Is it the economy that people
gotta they gotta have a side gig.
Speaker 10 (15:00):
It's it's I don't think the economy is back. I
think people are choosing what they want to work for.
You know, everybody the gig economies come in, so everyone's
working the gig economy. I think the problem is the
value of people. People valuing their employees. People don't value
them anymore, and so now people who are running to
(15:22):
the gig economy is hurting traditional employment. So people don't
want to work for those employers. If I can go
get a check myself and I deal with the nonsense.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Looking at the cv ads, you would think that immigration
is the number one problem in the country.
Speaker 9 (15:42):
I don't think.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
So we've got dexter. Dexter is immigration the number one problem?
It's a problem, but is it the problem in this country?
Speaker 11 (15:54):
I don't think that immigration is the problem in the country,
but I think it's the one thing that Donald Trump
has been able to capitalize on.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Because we're all going to say.
Speaker 11 (16:04):
That healthcare is a problem, the economic wage gap is
a problem. Gun shootings and gun control is the problems.
We're all going to agree on that to an extent.
But Donald Trump and the Republicans have done an amazing
job with alienating the Democratic base and making it look
like the Democrats are completely okay with illegal immigration, and
(16:25):
like the Democrats don't fight back hard enough to be like, no, actually,
we don't think this is okay, And like Donald Trump
and the Republicans, they just run with it. Like it's
almost crazy the way they do it, Because sometimes I'll
sit back and I look like, do you think the
rest of us are okay with this?
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Like?
Speaker 4 (16:41):
What are you talking about? Absolutely not.
Speaker 11 (16:43):
It's not the biggest problem. It is a problem, but
it's not the biggest problem that we're facing the centry.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Okay, waves gap is.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Though, Yeah, that that is a problem. The shootings in
this country. Just picked up my phone and it was
a shooting in Georgia at a high school. That is
definitely a problem, but they have run with it. But
on the flip side, It's like, y'all are one trick pony.
You want to scare people, scare tactics underlying racism. Immigrants
(17:15):
built this country, which people tend to forget. And yes,
that whole situation needs to be monitored and looked at,
but that's the only message that they have. It's like,
can you talk about how y'all can help this country
where people don't have to get side jobs to survive
(17:36):
and you know, and things like that.
Speaker 11 (17:39):
You're telling me that the illegal immigration is the biggest
issue where people are working two or three jobs and
still can't afford grocery. People are still struggling to get
healthcare based on their race in pre existing conditions. But
you want to tell me that illegal immigration is the
biggest issue we have to worry about.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Make it make sense.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
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