June 27, 2024 • 18 mins
Carly Pearce sits down with Crook & Chase with news about how her heart is literally "broken" right now; writing and producing her stellar new album "hummingbird" that lays out her new life mission; and what her hit song with Chris Stapleton means to her.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, hi everybody. Welcome once again to Crook and Chase
astual chats Charlie and Lorienne here, and we are pleased
to welcome and share a conversation that we had with
Carly Pearce here as part of the podcast. Carly, of
course in the news recently, primarily because of her health. Now,
if you look at her, you don't see anything wrong, right, nothing?
Oh my goodness, she's on stage. She's going to slow
down a little bit. So that's prompted in a lot
(00:21):
of things, and I admire of the fact she faced
it head one.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Yes, well, I mean, the main reason we asked her
to come to our studios, which she graciously did, was
to talk about her brand new album Just Absolutely Stellar singing,
songwriting and producing by miss Carly Pearce, was to talk
about this album, Hummingbird. But of course the first thing
we wanted to know is how are you lady? We're
just going to roll on this thing, girl, So first,
(00:44):
how are you you look? Famulous?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Gorgeous?
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Sore?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
You doing good? I'm doing good? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Okay, So how long do they say it's going to
be before you're over your little situation, your heart situation.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
It's a great question. I don't really know.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
I am just trying to take it a step at
a time.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
But as you saw, it took me a second to
get up the stairs. I feel like I'm a hundred
you a lift.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
I admire the fact that you faced it head on
and you let your fans know about it and everything
that was important to you.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Yeah, I feel like you can't hide. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
I feel like it's a responsibility to me of just
being transparent and that kind of comes with everything. And
I also kind of wanted to take an opportunity to
maybe shine light on the fact that I'm a young,
quote unquote healthy person that takes care of themselves and
you need to listen to your body. And so if
there's somebody out there that maybe is putting off a
test or putting off a doctor's appointment, maybe that was
(01:45):
like an extra push to make them listen.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Well, that said, what brought it to your attention? What happened?
Speaker 4 (01:51):
I was having really bad chest pains and had an
irregular EKG that led me to the hospital.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Oh what is your heart?
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
So, okay, was this caused by flipping truck tigers or
Tim McGrath.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
I've had a lot of people on my social media
say that, and I'm like, you know, maybe it did
my one flip.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
No, they don't.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
A lot of times perrycarditis is caused from a virus,
but we can't. We're not really sure why it happened
to me. So yeah, I won't be flipping tires, I'll
tell you that.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
So what, So, how does it affect your voice at all?
Speaker 4 (02:30):
You're not supposed to get your heart rate up, so
it's pretty hard to not do that when you're singing
and breathing, and so it's kind of been a trial
and error. But everybody so far on the road has
been so kind to just let me stand there and sing.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Well, your music is so emotional, it has a lot
of energy to it.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Yeah, my heart rate alone gets past where it should
be when I sing.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
We don't fight anymore, So it's not good.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I got to tell you, I had such a good
vibe before I even listen to the album, just from
the song titles.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Oh I love that, because.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
In reading the list here, I was going, hey, she's
got a grip on what's going on here? Yeah? Is
that what you're trying to get across here? Do you think.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
I think, more than anything, I just want people to
see that life is good and things are good, and
you know, I don't think that you have to have
it all figured out to be happy. And I think
that's maybe the biggest takeaway from the last couple of
years for me. Oh God, that's a beautiful way.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
To put it, because you know a lot of times
people go through I mean, we all go through difficult times,
and when we come out on the other side, we
want to act like everything's perfect, everything's wonderful. I'm so strong,
I made it, So I think it's wonderful that you're saying, Hey,
it may take me the rest of my life to figure.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Some of this out totally.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
And I think the healing process can be like you're
on a journey, and I've definitely been on a journey,
you know, since my last record. But I think it's
been a really a big season of growth and maturity
in my own life. And I've just felt a lot
(04:12):
of peace over the last five years.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
And what is the significance of humming bird? I know
a little bit about them because we have little feeders
in our yard, so I know that number one, they're
the smartest bird there is. Yeah, the only one that
can fly forward and backward, so you know, lots.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Of unique things about its gears.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Carly has gears, so yeah, a significance of Hummingbird for you.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Humming Birds a lot of people say that they symbolize
that the healing process can begin and that good luck
is on the way, and so I felt like that
was exactly where I was when I was making this album.
And country music has given me so much what feels
like good luck over the last few years, and I
felt like the whole season of this album was my
(04:59):
healing journey. You know.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
The song itself is epic to me, It's like a
movie soundtrack, and the lyrics to me at least, are
a little mysterious. Did you mean it to be that way?
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (05:13):
I mean I grew up loving Alison Kraus and Union
Station and Nickel Creek, and I just kind of wanted
to have one of those moments for me that was
a little bit more poetic than spelled out and just
kind of more imagery than anything.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
You nailed it when you finished the project Hummingbird word
is that you got a hummingbird tattoo? May I see it?
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Yes you can.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
For those for those of you are listening on radio, Wow,
she's little.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
She's little beautiful. Yeah, I've got I don't know what's happening.
I have a lot of tattoos. Now I can't stop.
That's okay, fine, yah yah Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Country music made me do it. She was singing it
when I came in the studios one.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
I am singing this whole album. I love every song
is in my head in the possible way.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
I had a lot of fun.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Country music made me do it in particular, kind of
felt like my love letter to country music. And also
I wanted to open the album kind of letting everybody
know like I'm.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Okay, We're okay, everything is fine.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
And I think some of the greats do it best,
you know, Dolly and Loretto, when people when things in
their life happen, or they kind of almost make a
joke out of it, and so I kind of almost
I'm at a place and I think it's a really
nice place to kind of not only call out the
things in my life but also kind of make light
of them and just think it's kind of it's a
(06:35):
part of it, and it's funny. And country music has
made me do a lot of really smart things and
a lot of stupid things.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Than you Country music.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Yeah, thank you, it's been it's been epic.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
More with Carly Pears coming up. When we come back,
Carly sets fire to her past heartache, reveals to us
what happened when she fell in love after divorce from
Michael Ray, and also shares the heartfelt mission of the
song she wrote for her new album, Hummingbird.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Liar, Liar, Truck's on fire. That's well, that's seeking out
some revenge. Sound like a dirty, hairy kind of script.
So you're dirty, Krly in this one?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Is that?
Speaker 4 (07:12):
You know? I mean I think all people who get
burned would like to burn up whatever the person that
hurt them loves the most.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
And so in this song it is said truck or's
your truck?
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Yeah, I'm going to I'm not going to just key
it or take a baseball bat to it.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I'm going to burn it down. I don't do anything.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
You could see the look in this woman's eyes right now.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Well, but if they say.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
It's cathartic, if you can just imagine it but not
really do it totally.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
And I think it's like a fun anthem for girls,
and it's just like a fun thought.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
We all have irrational thoughts. It's a fun thought, well, Paus.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
It's a good warning for guys, because I mean, Charlie,
aren't you sitting in there going? Will she really?
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Or won't she just hide the truck?
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Hide it as I might do it?
Speaker 2 (08:01):
So, is there a particular song on this album that
speaks most directly to where you are in your life,
in your journey right now?
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Where I am in my journey? Wow, I mean.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
There are ones that I feel like so like I
would tell you that the song that I probably love
the most.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Is my place.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
It's not where I'm at in this moment at all,
But I think just that song speaks to such a
big part of kind of just the realization of relationships
and time that you spend with people and when they
move on, how that makes you feel. And social media
(08:47):
does a really great job of showing us exactly what
our ex'es are doing if we want to type in
their name. And so I feel like that that song
is one of my favorites because it symbolized a big
part of my journey and also trust Issues is a
big one for me more because that song is the
(09:07):
first song that I wrote for the project, and it
was the first time that I had opened myself back
up to love since going through my divorce, and that
relationship didn't last, but it showed me that I could
do it, and so that one is really special to me.
But I think, I mean right now, probably just country
music made me do it. I mean, I'm not really
(09:29):
living any part. I do feel in this record. You
probably hear a lot of this, like I'm taking such ownership.
I feel like I've really figured out who my audience is,
and I take such responsibility in making sure to.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Keep the girls safe.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
And that's the only way I know how to say it, Like,
if I can teach you something, if I can spare
you a moment of heartbreak, or spare you a moment
of chasing somebody, or spare you a moment of a
fool of yourself, or spare you looking and secure, I
want to do it. And so I feel like that's
kind of been my mission with this album over the years.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
I was just in here thinking of all the things
we've known you since you first came out of the scene.
You've been very open about your personal life, your health,
everything else. What's it like from the standpoint of an
entertainer to give up all that information, all that privacy.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
You have people in the grocery store that come up
to you and they're like, you know, you're just trying
to buy black beans, and they're like.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Really sorry about your divorce. No, I mean it comes
with the price. It comes to the price.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
I would be lying to you if I said I
don't go down rabbit holes of reading comments and read
it and all the things. It's tough, but I think
at the end of the day, when I lay my
head down at night, I know that I'm being honest.
And I think some people everybody approaches quote unquote fame
or success in different ways, and for me, the only
(11:05):
way that I really know how to exist in this
life is to just be the same person in both worlds.
So that means I'm gonna not always be fixed up
on the internet. I'm not going to hide when I'm happy,
I'm not going to hide when I'm sad. I'm not
going to try to be something that I'm not.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
And so.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
On my really strong days of not reading things, I
think I'm proud of that. And everybody's always going to
have an opinion about you. I just kind of have
tons of people that I can read their opinions of
me every day.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
But it's not like a game you're playing every day,
you know, to totally you know, with the Internet and
now everybody's everywhere these days. Oh god, cameras are going
to post this and say this, you know.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Yeah, I mean it's I think about when I came
onto the scene almost eight years ago. It's a vastly
different situation, and it's it's I'm glad I'm not trying
to introduce myself in this day and a because it
feels stressful. But I think I just I try to
be as authentic as I can and try to share
(12:11):
what I feel like is authentic to me and also
maybe can help somebody or is impactful in some way.
But yeah, it's there are probably moments in my life
that I wish I could go back and maybe not
put out into the world the way that I did.
But also it brought me here, which is a really
good place. So I don't really want to be like, oh,
(12:32):
I don't think I would have done that, because I
can see the good and all of it.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
You and Chris Stapleton, Oh, my lord, you must love
to just listen to that song yourself over and over again.
The two of you together are magnificent.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
I mean, that was such a dream for me to have.
He's one of my favorite singers of all time. I'm
sure he's a lot of people's one of their favorite
singers of all time.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
And just to have a song that, you know, I
feel like I've.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Put a lot of songs out that are the exception
to the rule of what works at terrestrial radio or
what can be a quote unquote hit, And I think
this song delivered something that really needed to be said
in a song, and I think it. You know, it's
an uncomfortable thought to think of a relationship running cold,
but I think it's an important thing that I wanted
(13:25):
people to hear, and hopefully some people just would make
the decision to leave the relationship or work on it,
or acknowledge the elephant in the room and to have
him on it.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
I think as I.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Go along that will always this song will always be
a moment that is probably one of the higher on
my list of things I got to do.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Oh yeah, you know, you bring up something interesting. We
talked to so many artists and songwriters who say, man,
you know, we get together and we try to write something.
Everything has already been written about love, but especially on
this album, and you said it yourself, Man, you really
you and your co writers have a different take on relationships.
(14:13):
You are saying things in song that I've never heard
anybody say before.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Is it just roll?
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Is it just kind of rolling out of you? Or
is it something that you're really having to work with
to bring this into a song.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
It doesn't feel hard, So I don't know what that means.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
I think, you know, at thirty four, I've lived a
lot of interesting moments in my life obviously, have had
an interesting journey of love, and I think.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
I only know how to write the way.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
That I see the world, and so I don't know
if maybe somebody in my position hasn't, you know, had
the story that I've had to the degree. You know,
I often look at Loretta in the way that she
wrote music, and she just had no filter. She didn't
care what you thought about it, And I think that's
(15:10):
like a really liberating place to write music from.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
And I think it also.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
When it flows in that way, it feels probably fresh
because you're not trying. I'm not trying to write inside a.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Fence.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
I guess I'm just trying to write my story, and
my story is different for sure. But that's awesome that
you feel that way.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Another step in the upward direction in country music with
this project. Yeah, how tough were you on yourself?
Speaker 4 (15:43):
I mean, I've always been somebody that would get albums
as a kid, and I want to know who played
on it, who produced it, who wrote it. I should
have been a musician way better than I am. I
can half play guitar, but I grew up going to
like bluegrass, and a lot of my favorite music are instrumentals,
(16:04):
and so I've always been really fascinated by production. And
so it was really fun to get to to open
that up and get to speak that language with Shane
and Josh and just with the musicians. And I had
a lot of you would have laughed at me in
the studio. It was like I didn't know the number
system or anything, but I'd be like, you need to
do you need to like everybody out here, and you here, and.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
They followed me. It was fun, Well that's great, you
play here, you do this.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
I see it now the Carly system that yeah, exactly
I'll just rewrite it.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
It'll be fun.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
So I mean, so you're doing a lot for yourself
with the music, you know, just emotionally, mentally and all
of that. So are you Obviously you're still taking great
care of yourself. You still like cooking and eating healthy
and all of that.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Clearly it's not working right now with my heart.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
But yes, no, I'm still like as boring as they
come in my normal life of just being at home
and going to the grocery store and doing laundry and
hanging out with my dogs.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
I'm but I'm very content with that.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
My life is so wild ninety five percent of the time,
So the five percent that I can just hang out
at home, it's nice.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Well, it's good she's able to do that. It's going
to give her a chance to heal and kind of
address the health issues she's been going through. And you know,
when she was sitting here looking at us and talking
to us and everything, I could see it in her eyes, Laurie,
and there was concern about, Hey, I'm glad I caught this.
You know, I'm going to try to take care of
it and get back to normal. So I think she's
well on her way I think she's signed parent.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Carddis she says, I mean she is on tour, and
she says she's feeling better and stronger every single day. Well,
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Crook and Chase
Well, hi everybody. Welcome once again to Crook and Chase
astual chats Charlie and Lorienne here, and we are pleased
to welcome and share a conversation that we had with
Carly Pearce here as part of the podcast. Carly, of
course in the news recently, primarily because of her health. Now,
if you look at her, you don't see anything wrong, right, nothing?
Oh my goodness, she's on stage. She's going to slow
down a little bit. So that's prompted in a lot
(00:21):
of things, and I admire of the fact she faced
it head one.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Yes, well, I mean, the main reason we asked her
to come to our studios, which she graciously did, was
to talk about her brand new album Just Absolutely Stellar singing,
songwriting and producing by miss Carly Pearce, was to talk
about this album, Hummingbird. But of course the first thing
we wanted to know is how are you lady? We're
just going to roll on this thing, girl, So first,
(00:44):
how are you you look? Famulous?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Gorgeous?
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Sore?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
You doing good? I'm doing good? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Okay, So how long do they say it's going to
be before you're over your little situation, your heart situation.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
It's a great question. I don't really know.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
I am just trying to take it a step at
a time.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
But as you saw, it took me a second to
get up the stairs. I feel like I'm a hundred
you a lift.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
I admire the fact that you faced it head on
and you let your fans know about it and everything
that was important to you.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Yeah, I feel like you can't hide. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
I feel like it's a responsibility to me of just
being transparent and that kind of comes with everything. And
I also kind of wanted to take an opportunity to
maybe shine light on the fact that I'm a young,
quote unquote healthy person that takes care of themselves and
you need to listen to your body. And so if
there's somebody out there that maybe is putting off a
test or putting off a doctor's appointment, maybe that was
(01:45):
like an extra push to make them listen.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Well, that said, what brought it to your attention? What happened?
Speaker 4 (01:51):
I was having really bad chest pains and had an
irregular EKG that led me to the hospital.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Oh what is your heart?
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
So, okay, was this caused by flipping truck tigers or
Tim McGrath.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
I've had a lot of people on my social media
say that, and I'm like, you know, maybe it did
my one flip.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
No, they don't.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
A lot of times perrycarditis is caused from a virus,
but we can't. We're not really sure why it happened
to me. So yeah, I won't be flipping tires, I'll
tell you that.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
So what, So, how does it affect your voice at all?
Speaker 4 (02:30):
You're not supposed to get your heart rate up, so
it's pretty hard to not do that when you're singing
and breathing, and so it's kind of been a trial
and error. But everybody so far on the road has
been so kind to just let me stand there and sing.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Well, your music is so emotional, it has a lot
of energy to it.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Yeah, my heart rate alone gets past where it should
be when I sing.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
We don't fight anymore, So it's not good.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I got to tell you, I had such a good
vibe before I even listen to the album, just from
the song titles.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Oh I love that, because.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
In reading the list here, I was going, hey, she's
got a grip on what's going on here? Yeah? Is
that what you're trying to get across here? Do you think.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
I think, more than anything, I just want people to
see that life is good and things are good, and
you know, I don't think that you have to have
it all figured out to be happy. And I think
that's maybe the biggest takeaway from the last couple of
years for me. Oh God, that's a beautiful way.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
To put it, because you know a lot of times
people go through I mean, we all go through difficult times,
and when we come out on the other side, we
want to act like everything's perfect, everything's wonderful. I'm so strong,
I made it, So I think it's wonderful that you're saying, Hey,
it may take me the rest of my life to figure.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Some of this out totally.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
And I think the healing process can be like you're
on a journey, and I've definitely been on a journey,
you know, since my last record. But I think it's
been a really a big season of growth and maturity
in my own life. And I've just felt a lot
(04:12):
of peace over the last five years.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
And what is the significance of humming bird? I know
a little bit about them because we have little feeders
in our yard, so I know that number one, they're
the smartest bird there is. Yeah, the only one that
can fly forward and backward, so you know, lots.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Of unique things about its gears.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Carly has gears, so yeah, a significance of Hummingbird for you.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Humming Birds a lot of people say that they symbolize
that the healing process can begin and that good luck
is on the way, and so I felt like that
was exactly where I was when I was making this album.
And country music has given me so much what feels
like good luck over the last few years, and I
felt like the whole season of this album was my
(04:59):
healing journey. You know.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
The song itself is epic to me, It's like a
movie soundtrack, and the lyrics to me at least, are
a little mysterious. Did you mean it to be that way?
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (05:13):
I mean I grew up loving Alison Kraus and Union
Station and Nickel Creek, and I just kind of wanted
to have one of those moments for me that was
a little bit more poetic than spelled out and just
kind of more imagery than anything.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
You nailed it when you finished the project Hummingbird word
is that you got a hummingbird tattoo? May I see it?
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Yes you can.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
For those for those of you are listening on radio, Wow,
she's little.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
She's little beautiful. Yeah, I've got I don't know what's happening.
I have a lot of tattoos. Now I can't stop.
That's okay, fine, yah yah Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Country music made me do it. She was singing it
when I came in the studios one.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
I am singing this whole album. I love every song
is in my head in the possible way.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
I had a lot of fun.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Country music made me do it in particular, kind of
felt like my love letter to country music. And also
I wanted to open the album kind of letting everybody
know like I'm.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Okay, We're okay, everything is fine.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
And I think some of the greats do it best,
you know, Dolly and Loretto, when people when things in
their life happen, or they kind of almost make a
joke out of it, and so I kind of almost
I'm at a place and I think it's a really
nice place to kind of not only call out the
things in my life but also kind of make light
of them and just think it's kind of it's a
(06:35):
part of it, and it's funny. And country music has
made me do a lot of really smart things and
a lot of stupid things.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Than you Country music.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Yeah, thank you, it's been it's been epic.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
More with Carly Pears coming up. When we come back,
Carly sets fire to her past heartache, reveals to us
what happened when she fell in love after divorce from
Michael Ray, and also shares the heartfelt mission of the
song she wrote for her new album, Hummingbird.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Liar, Liar, Truck's on fire. That's well, that's seeking out
some revenge. Sound like a dirty, hairy kind of script.
So you're dirty, Krly in this one?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Is that?
Speaker 4 (07:12):
You know? I mean I think all people who get
burned would like to burn up whatever the person that
hurt them loves the most.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
And so in this song it is said truck or's
your truck?
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Yeah, I'm going to I'm not going to just key
it or take a baseball bat to it.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I'm going to burn it down. I don't do anything.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
You could see the look in this woman's eyes right now.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Well, but if they say.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
It's cathartic, if you can just imagine it but not
really do it totally.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
And I think it's like a fun anthem for girls,
and it's just like a fun thought.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
We all have irrational thoughts. It's a fun thought, well, Paus.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
It's a good warning for guys, because I mean, Charlie,
aren't you sitting in there going? Will she really?
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Or won't she just hide the truck?
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Hide it as I might do it?
Speaker 2 (08:01):
So, is there a particular song on this album that
speaks most directly to where you are in your life,
in your journey right now?
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Where I am in my journey? Wow, I mean.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
There are ones that I feel like so like I
would tell you that the song that I probably love
the most.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Is my place.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
It's not where I'm at in this moment at all,
But I think just that song speaks to such a
big part of kind of just the realization of relationships
and time that you spend with people and when they
move on, how that makes you feel. And social media
(08:47):
does a really great job of showing us exactly what
our ex'es are doing if we want to type in
their name. And so I feel like that that song
is one of my favorites because it symbolized a big
part of my journey and also trust Issues is a
big one for me more because that song is the
(09:07):
first song that I wrote for the project, and it
was the first time that I had opened myself back
up to love since going through my divorce, and that
relationship didn't last, but it showed me that I could
do it, and so that one is really special to me.
But I think, I mean right now, probably just country
music made me do it. I mean, I'm not really
(09:29):
living any part. I do feel in this record. You
probably hear a lot of this, like I'm taking such ownership.
I feel like I've really figured out who my audience is,
and I take such responsibility in making sure to.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Keep the girls safe.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
And that's the only way I know how to say it, Like,
if I can teach you something, if I can spare
you a moment of heartbreak, or spare you a moment
of chasing somebody, or spare you a moment of a
fool of yourself, or spare you looking and secure, I
want to do it. And so I feel like that's
kind of been my mission with this album over the years.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
I was just in here thinking of all the things
we've known you since you first came out of the scene.
You've been very open about your personal life, your health,
everything else. What's it like from the standpoint of an
entertainer to give up all that information, all that privacy.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
You have people in the grocery store that come up
to you and they're like, you know, you're just trying
to buy black beans, and they're like.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Really sorry about your divorce. No, I mean it comes
with the price. It comes to the price.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
I would be lying to you if I said I
don't go down rabbit holes of reading comments and read
it and all the things. It's tough, but I think
at the end of the day, when I lay my
head down at night, I know that I'm being honest.
And I think some people everybody approaches quote unquote fame
or success in different ways, and for me, the only
(11:05):
way that I really know how to exist in this
life is to just be the same person in both worlds.
So that means I'm gonna not always be fixed up
on the internet. I'm not going to hide when I'm happy,
I'm not going to hide when I'm sad. I'm not
going to try to be something that I'm not.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
And so.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
On my really strong days of not reading things, I
think I'm proud of that. And everybody's always going to
have an opinion about you. I just kind of have
tons of people that I can read their opinions of
me every day.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
But it's not like a game you're playing every day,
you know, to totally you know, with the Internet and
now everybody's everywhere these days. Oh god, cameras are going
to post this and say this, you know.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Yeah, I mean it's I think about when I came
onto the scene almost eight years ago. It's a vastly
different situation, and it's it's I'm glad I'm not trying
to introduce myself in this day and a because it
feels stressful. But I think I just I try to
be as authentic as I can and try to share
(12:11):
what I feel like is authentic to me and also
maybe can help somebody or is impactful in some way.
But yeah, it's there are probably moments in my life
that I wish I could go back and maybe not
put out into the world the way that I did.
But also it brought me here, which is a really
good place. So I don't really want to be like, oh,
(12:32):
I don't think I would have done that, because I
can see the good and all of it.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
You and Chris Stapleton, Oh, my lord, you must love
to just listen to that song yourself over and over again.
The two of you together are magnificent.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
I mean, that was such a dream for me to have.
He's one of my favorite singers of all time. I'm
sure he's a lot of people's one of their favorite
singers of all time.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
And just to have a song that, you know, I
feel like I've.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Put a lot of songs out that are the exception
to the rule of what works at terrestrial radio or
what can be a quote unquote hit, And I think
this song delivered something that really needed to be said
in a song, and I think it. You know, it's
an uncomfortable thought to think of a relationship running cold,
but I think it's an important thing that I wanted
(13:25):
people to hear, and hopefully some people just would make
the decision to leave the relationship or work on it,
or acknowledge the elephant in the room and to have
him on it.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
I think as I.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Go along that will always this song will always be
a moment that is probably one of the higher on
my list of things I got to do.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Oh yeah, you know, you bring up something interesting. We
talked to so many artists and songwriters who say, man,
you know, we get together and we try to write something.
Everything has already been written about love, but especially on
this album, and you said it yourself, Man, you really
you and your co writers have a different take on relationships.
(14:13):
You are saying things in song that I've never heard
anybody say before.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Is it just roll?
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Is it just kind of rolling out of you? Or
is it something that you're really having to work with
to bring this into a song.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
It doesn't feel hard, So I don't know what that means.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
I think, you know, at thirty four, I've lived a
lot of interesting moments in my life obviously, have had
an interesting journey of love, and I think.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
I only know how to write the way.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
That I see the world, and so I don't know
if maybe somebody in my position hasn't, you know, had
the story that I've had to the degree. You know,
I often look at Loretta in the way that she
wrote music, and she just had no filter. She didn't
care what you thought about it, And I think that's
(15:10):
like a really liberating place to write music from.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
And I think it also.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
When it flows in that way, it feels probably fresh
because you're not trying. I'm not trying to write inside a.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Fence.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
I guess I'm just trying to write my story, and
my story is different for sure. But that's awesome that
you feel that way.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Another step in the upward direction in country music with
this project. Yeah, how tough were you on yourself?
Speaker 4 (15:43):
I mean, I've always been somebody that would get albums
as a kid, and I want to know who played
on it, who produced it, who wrote it. I should
have been a musician way better than I am. I
can half play guitar, but I grew up going to
like bluegrass, and a lot of my favorite music are instrumentals,
(16:04):
and so I've always been really fascinated by production. And
so it was really fun to get to to open
that up and get to speak that language with Shane
and Josh and just with the musicians. And I had
a lot of you would have laughed at me in
the studio. It was like I didn't know the number
system or anything, but I'd be like, you need to
do you need to like everybody out here, and you here, and.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
They followed me. It was fun, Well that's great, you
play here, you do this.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
I see it now the Carly system that yeah, exactly
I'll just rewrite it.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
It'll be fun.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
So I mean, so you're doing a lot for yourself
with the music, you know, just emotionally, mentally and all
of that. So are you Obviously you're still taking great
care of yourself. You still like cooking and eating healthy
and all of that.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Clearly it's not working right now with my heart.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
But yes, no, I'm still like as boring as they
come in my normal life of just being at home
and going to the grocery store and doing laundry and
hanging out with my dogs.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
I'm but I'm very content with that.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
My life is so wild ninety five percent of the time,
So the five percent that I can just hang out
at home, it's nice.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Well, it's good she's able to do that. It's going
to give her a chance to heal and kind of
address the health issues she's been going through. And you know,
when she was sitting here looking at us and talking
to us and everything, I could see it in her eyes, Laurie,
and there was concern about, Hey, I'm glad I caught this.
You know, I'm going to try to take care of
it and get back to normal. So I think she's
well on her way I think she's signed parent.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Carddis she says, I mean she is on tour, and
she says she's feeling better and stronger every single day. Well,
as always, we are Crook and Chase. We have your
country covered. Listen to our Crook and Chase Countdown every
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