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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, Laurian and Charlie here, Welcome into Crook and Chase
Nashville chats with a man we've known his entire career
that spans what about two.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Decades, Charlie, a little more than that, probably mister Dirk's Bentley.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
He only this guy on Valentine's Day would release a
song titled she Hates Me Right.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
I wish I had been.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
There, Charlie. I was coming back from my country music
cruise and you you did the honors and handled Dirks
all by yourself. I wish I was a fly.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I'm going to tell you. Listen, Hey, you're going to
enjoy this podcast because we talk about earworms. I don't
know if you've heard the term. Actually, it means that
you get a song on your mind and you can't
get rid of it.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Yeah, you're singing it all.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Do you get rid of it? Well? Dirks thinks he
has a remedy. I don't know if you want to
try it, but.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
A bottle of his new whiskey.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Well could be. We're going to talk about that whiskey
as well. But it's kind of interesting how this song
came about. It was unexpected. So let's go to Dirks
for the story of She Hates Me. You're starting a
new trend. The unloved song in country is.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
An unloved song. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
I love the love songs. I love the heart I
like the heartbreak songs better, I guess, But I guess
this is the anti Valentine today.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
What this is. It's a mess. She hates the thing
about you?
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Well, yeah, she really does. You know, it's you're going
to making an album and you have certain ideas what
it's going to be. You know, I'm always The last
single I had out was the American Girl cover Tom
Petty thing. It was very acoustic driven and kind of
doing that blue grass and country thing and somehow, and
that's why I went into this album thinking I was
going to do and then I wound up with a
song called she Hates Me as the first single, and
(01:43):
it's not bluegrassy at all.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
But I'd love to hear the discussion behind the scenes
about maybe this is the first single.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Well, it's a lot of my kids they know what's
an earworm, and they're like, Dad, that song is just
I can't stop singing it. They know that they live
in the world of like of you know, little clips
and bits of I called tiktak just to bother them world.
So they they're the first one's really turned my attention
onto it because I you know, I just didn't take
the song out seriously.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
I wrote it kind of in between songs, as with
some great songwriters.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
We finished something, you know, you're kind of taking a
break in the water, and this thing kind of pops
up in the room and we all come kind of
come back in and start we finish it laughing. Okay,
it's going to the real song we were planning on writing,
but that little song, uh, you know, we end up
playing for some people.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
I ended up cutting it.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
I love the way it turned out, and somehow it
wound its way to the top of the pile.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
So you never know how it's gonna work out.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
You know, your kids mentioned it's an earworm kind of song. Yeah,
you're one of the few people who I've discussed this with.
How do you get rid of a song that you
turn an earworm?
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Trasidon? When you're sleeping a night and you can't sleep,
I get medicated. You know.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Hardy is the worst. I can't even listen to Hardy
Hardy's album anymore. I've told him it's like ear songs
get stuck my head, and I'll sing the song all
night long. I'll either and I can't stop singing it.
He's cost me hours. It probably cost a few years
of my life because.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
I've so so what do you do? You just hope
to go unconsciously.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
I just go take some medication. I gotta take a
sleeping pillar or something.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
I literally am a person will sing a song all
night long and then lying down of sleeping night.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
If a song gets my head, I panic.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
I'm like, oh gosh, do not think about that song
because I just they get stuck.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Wow, that happened to you.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yeah, I mean all the time that I hear Beach
Boys songs.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
You know.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
I hung out Brian Michael, Michael Love, Mike Love. Yeah,
he was at the I was out.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
In d c or on their notation.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I'm at the operating not too long.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
He was out there at the Low Cash Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
There a gig, and I was playing a gig out there,
and I had to get up at three forty five
in the morning to go to the airport, so I
never went to bed.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
I stayed up all night long. I talked to Michael
Love for like two hours at the hotel lobby.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Well, I got a big thrill because I walked up
to him and said, I saw you in Knoxville, Tennessee. Yeah,
fifty years ago, and you guys had these great everybody
was dressed toike, you know, all the cool beach boy
looking outfits.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
And he loves that stuff.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
He works the hat that says beach boys, and he
wants to talk about it. He's proud to be a
beach boy. But yeah, great guy. But I maybe you
know what I wanted to tell them. If you're listening
out there, Michae Love is the beach Boys Christmas album
was like the album and my family that is synonymous
with Christmas.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
I should have told him that I'll look him up.
We'll pass this Instagram Instagram.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Back to the song she Hates Me, Yes, Let's go
to your house. What is it that Cassidy doesn't really
hate about you but tolerates?
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (04:27):
What does she like about it?
Speaker 2 (04:28):
To be that truck?
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Nothing? Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
I've been married for twenty years and I was crazy
and I've noticed since eighth grade.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
So there's plenty. I do.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
I think the main lesson I've learned through all this
is just apologize quickly and concisely. You know, it's not
it's not I'm sorry, but I'm sorry. It's just I'm sorry.
I messed up. I'm an idiot, forgive me, you know,
just lean in quick on the the the apology.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
But you were so quick on that, just almost like
you practiced that, or.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
I've been like a well trained dog.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
I know, I've learned that this is the quickest route
to get things back on tracks.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
I don't like drama.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
I don't like being in like. I don't like the
highs and lows. I just like I just don't like
living that way. So I don't think I do too
much to bother her. I think back, you know, you're
getting married early on, and you're out there hit all
the dates we used to play on the road, and
you know all the you know, just it's a lot.
And so I think I've learned it's just to you know,
melod with age, I guess I don't think. I hope mean,
(05:26):
she's I'm so lucky. She's the best things that ever
happened to.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Me, that's for sure, because she loves the song. She
she and she is also one of the people that was like,
that song is really really catchy.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
I remember first meeting you and you had big white Yeah,
and here you are twenty two number ones later. I
know you're still going strong. Yeah, the truck's still going strong.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
We're both the same.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Do you ever stop and let all this success and
and what you've accomplished just so again, because what you've
done not everybody does.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Yeah, No, I rare, I don't uh, I don't look.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
I heard McGraw one time say, you know, he's kind
of spent his whole life waiting for the other shoe
to drop. And I think that's a really good analogy
of somebody that feels very lucky and grateful and respectful
of the success they've had. Is that you kind of
always you never know when you know it could be
your last single, your last tour, your last show, and
it's it's been quite I have twenty somewhat number ones, Like,
(06:27):
it's hard to believe.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
It really is hard to believe.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
It's you know, sometimes I feel like I'm, you know,
still kid. My walk on stage and it feels brand new,
and other times I haven't done this for a long time.
When I saw you, you were when I first saw you
were dreaming. Yeah, yeah, I know. I think you guys
all the time. I drive by your Dill place. There's
now uh you know, they renovated and turned into a
publishing house, and I remember walking around there all the
(06:50):
carpet and and the vaults and the old all the
good stuff, all the great interviews you guys have done
other years.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah, because you were connected with us in TNA. I
loved it.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
I love it. I love the history of this business.
I love you know.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
And not to reference more people, but Tracy Lawrence, you know,
he's a great example of somebody that just like loves
the business. He just loves being part of it, always
been grateful to be part of it. Loves Nashville, loves
the you know, highs and low's that he's experienced. And
I feel like I'm that way too. I love the
roots of this town. And I feel like I've always
was doing it for the right reasons. It's just a
love of country music.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I just I know you have a resume of sneaking
in the operation and all kind of love.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
I love the characters. I love the care one of them.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
So I don't know I'm a character I never wanted
to be a character, but I love I love the
people that make country music, you know, the crazy thing
that it is.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
They are a wonderful personnelity, great interviews, including yourself. Well,
let's go to the tour here, Broken Branches tour is
something you're going to launch this summer. Uh, think about this.
Who have you looked upon as maybe a coach when
it comes to live performances because you do a great
job connecting with your audience. There's a there's a communication there.
(07:54):
Not everybody has that. Who's subconsciously maybe has been your
coach and maybe they don't know about it.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Well, well, I wish he's still around it to I
hope he knew it, but he might not have. But
I've rushed from Charlie Daniels a lot. You know, Charlie
just he is, He just ain't his name be gives
he kind of goosebumps. So I think all the times
I've played with them on the road and watched him
do what he does, and he just and he smoked
me too once, Oh my gosh. We were playing the
opry one time and I had to go on after him,
(08:20):
you know, And I've done that twice. I was on
the road one time where I closed for him, and
I remember I going on his bus and talking about
and he said, son, you know that's just the way
the business goes. You're hot, you know, you deserve that slide.
Don't apologize, you know, because I was saying you should
go last. I should not be he should not be
opening for me right at this fair day. And no,
that's the way it works, and we're proud of he
(08:41):
will be supporting you. Well, he goes out there and
just blows it the doors down.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
You know, he knew what he was doing. He was competitive,
and he just had to go try to follow him.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Well, then a couple months later with the Opry and
I see that I'm on after Charlie Daniels, and I
was like, this is not going to be good. And
he goes out there and does his thing. He devil
went down to Georgia, Sure, and he holds that fiddle
up into the spotlight, you know, and blows the resin
dust off the fiddle into the spotlight, and this cloud
of halo surrounds him. And I have to go out
(09:13):
there and try to follow him.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
But he was so good at connecting with the crowd.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
I mean, he's such a musician, but he's also a storyteller.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
I like all the great ones are.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
He can tell a joke, tell a story, sing a song,
play the fiddle, play the.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Guitar, had strong values.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
He was just something that really really set the bar
high for the live performer.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
I got one final question here before we go on.
That is your new brew Row ninety four good stuff?
So no longer it's no longer hooch for you, No, no, no,
real good stuff.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
It's been a couple of years trying to figure it out.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
And three ingredients and the truth is the way you
describe it. Basically what I'm understanding from this. You drink
some of the stuff and then you start confessing about
things you haven't done yet.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
That's true.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
I was thinking more Harlan Howard, three chords in the truth,
But yeah, maybe that's funny.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
It's a truth, sirum.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
The truth.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Drink Row Row ninety four, the truth comes out.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Uh yeah, I know.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
It was your job in developing uh taste testing, you know,
that was my main job.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
I've done a lot of it over the course of
my life.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
I figured, you know, whiskey's taking a lot of my
life from him as well get something out of it
at some point. But no, I loved Hank Junior, and
Hank Junior drank Jim Beam whiskey, you know. So if
you liked Hank, you drank Jim. And at that point
my life was all about just kind of getting it
to my liver as quickly as possible. But during COVID,
like a lot of people started like experimenting, more like
(10:35):
getting in the whole thing, the bourbon geek, listening to podcasts,
reading books, tasting it, smelling it, listening to it. And
I was like, I really is someone that had approached me,
And I thought, this is the time. Now I have
these bars called whiskey Row, we should have a whiskey
called Row whiskey put in there. So I went to
a lot different places, did a lot of taste testing,
and all that stuff wrapped the road. Here in Owensboro,
(10:56):
Kentucky is the tenth oldest distillery Green River, and it's
like the station in of like of distilleries. It's old,
beat up place with a lot of stories and history
to tell. And I just love the people that work there,
so I brought them in on the business. So I
get the juice at cost, which allows me to get
to my fans from under forty dollars. But it's really
one hundred dollars bottle whiskey and it's Kentucky strait. It's
(11:19):
actually four years old. Yeah, and it's ninety four proof.
But you can get it for one undred forty bucks.
So it's good and that's something that's important to me.
It's like, I don't want to be one of those guys.
It's like selling one thing and drinking something else behind
closed doors.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
It's like this is this is what I drink. It's
available now, right, It's available.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Yeah, it's all Tennessee. Kentucky just launched in Michigan. It's
out in Arizona, Colorado, Texas.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
She hates you, but she loves Road ninety four.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Hey, you got all these slogans I'm coming up with here.
She hates me, but she loves Roe.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Okay, Now you see Row ninety four is the name
of the whiskey. And you and I were discussing this earlier.
Why Road ninety four? He alluded to the fact that
it is ninety four proof, but you had another theory
about that.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Well, okay, so I went to the website of the distillery,
and they're saying it's named Row ninety four because nineteen
ninety four was the year that Dirk's Bentley fell in
love with country music and decided he was moving to Nashville.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
So either one works, it all works. Oh and by
the way, fun fact, I was wondering about this because
Dirk's is an unusual name, right, Is that a real name? Yes,
it is. But his first name is Frederick Frederick Dirk's Bentley,
but you didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
I can we call him Freddy from now on?
Speaker 2 (12:40):
You try it. I'm not going.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
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