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April 24, 2025 • 16 mins

Nashville Chats getting up close and personal with one of country’s bright new stars John Morgan. He just hit number one with FRENDS LIKE THAT, released a new CD CAROLINA BLUE, and tells what happens when his wife asks him to explain a newly written love song. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, Lorien and Charlie with you again. Welcome into Crook
and Chason Nashville Chats. This is a momentous occasion because
emerging star, wonderful artist, singer songwriter John Morgan is releasing
his debut album, Carolina Blue, and he is on our chat.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Don't you know. He's got to be excited because number one, Well,
speaking of number one, friends like that with his buddy
Jason Alde recent number one, and I think that that's
a good indication that this kid is really on a
good role. He's off to a good start because he
has a bass as a great songwriter in this town
and now he's in the spotlight. So we've got a

(00:41):
chance to visit with John Morgan here prior to the release.
And you always wonder just what are these guys going
to be doing the day that album is released, because
that's a very exciting time. It's a debut album for it, right,
So we're going to find out exactly how he plans
on spending that day. That should be fun.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
Yes, And here's something you have to listen for in
this interview. How do I put this, Charlie, It's delicate.
I think John is going to have to start spending
more time on the road.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
That's all you need to say right away from the house.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Yeah, because every time he spends a little time at
the house, a new baby just suddenly appears nine months later.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Okaye, what happens. He's a very interesting and very nice
young man, twenty nine years old, recent number one and
a new CD on the way, and here's John.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
So this album is so interesting to me because all
the layers of emotion that you're known for putting in music. Anyway,
it seems like with songs like Way Out Wood and
Carolina Blue that maybe you're in a little bit of
a whorl wh and just trying to figure out your

(01:54):
life right now, you.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
Can say that for sure. Yeah, you know, it's funny
with putting this project together. It was like a lot
of these songs on here five six years old. They
are because I, you know, I've been writing predominantly for
for almost that long, and I've been writing for other artists,
you know, and and doing that, and so in the
back of my mind, I was always trying to prepare

(02:18):
for the time when it came when it was my
turn to to put together a full project. And so
a lot of these I've just had in my back
pocket and I feel like are really me and something
that I want to say. But yeah, it's it's uh,
there there was. I was definitely into different different stages
You can kind of see different stages of life I
was in if you listen to the song. So it's

(02:38):
kind of funny now yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah classics on
my first album, it's it's it's definitely. Uh. It was
fun to to kind of get the piece them all
together and and to see some of these songs get
a life.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
You know, well, speaking of of a life, how are
you managing it all? Because you know, as we talk
to people who are predominantly songwriters, others who are singer songwriters,
others who are just entertainers, there's such a different level
of anxiety about it. It seems like the songwriters kind
of can control their life a little better. So now

(03:16):
that you are the entertainer in addition to the songwriter
for yourself and others, are you trying to find a
balance for yourself?

Speaker 3 (03:25):
Yes, And the key word there is trying. I'm definitely trying,
you know. I think there's there's definitely some go tos
that I feel like you know or just kind of
keep you the kind of common denominators, I guess, and
keep you grounded. But I you know, I've got three,
three little ones now, so yeah, three I do. Yeah, yeah,

(03:45):
I know, I know three under three. So I've been
busy on the road and at home. Yeah anyway, say yes,
I told them they got to book me some more shows.
I can't be home for too long but too expensive now.
I I'm very blessed in that regard. And and you know,
it's something for me when I am home, I'm home,

(04:08):
you know, I don't I'm not I'm not doing other things.
I spend time with my family when I am home,
and it allows me to you know, get that when
when I am able to, and then focus on my
job when I'm on the road. And so that's that's been,
you know, a tricky thing to figure out, but there
is some balance there, and it's it's not easy, but

(04:29):
if you you know, if that's your intent and that's
what you set out to do, and you like, I'm
looking at this as as a career as well too,
So I'm hope hopefully it'll last me more than a
couple of years, you know, And so I feel like
that's been part of what's helped with my you know,
keeping my sanity in a lot of ways.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
There's a lot of great songwriting on this album. I
mean the entire album. In my opinion, it gives a
good idea exactly who you are. And I think a
prime example is Carolina Blue.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
Laurie.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
I had mentioned the song earlier that paints such a
wonderful picture about where you're from, and I think that's
what you would. I think where you're from is what
inspired you, not only in that song, but everything in here.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
One hundred percent. Yeah, I appreciate you saying that. I
definitely wanted that song to be a tip of the
hat back to, you know, my hometown on the community
that kind of helped create who I am today and
the person that I try to be and that I
know I should be. A lot of that stems from
the way I grew up and the people I was
surrounded by during that time.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Okay, that's Silva, North Carolina. Yes, small town. How many
people there.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
I'd say, now it's it's probably it's definitely grown, but
I think growing up it was probably twelve hundred population.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
A small town. Cat Museum we know that museum myself.
When is the last time you were over there? And
what kind of reaction are you getting now that you
have made some noise on the chart and on the radio.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
Yeah, you know, it's pretty cool. I you know, I
kind of sneak in and out whenever I do go back. Uh.
You know, my parents uh just recently moved to Chattanooga,
but you know they've been there up until you know,
this this year. And so when I would go back
and visit, I would, uh, I'd either take the family

(06:16):
and we'd go up there and stay for a little
while where I would just sneak over on my own
and and try to, you know, take care of some
things back home. And uh, I don't know, It's it's fun.
It's interesting seeing how some people, uh change towards you
a little bit, and just the way that I guess
they they think you might have changed in some ways.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
I was going to say, the elders probably said, now,
don't you go over and change now.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
You and they did. My mama was the front runner
on that. But you know what, I'm thankful for that, because, uh,
it's easy to change when you move somewhere and you
take on a new role and this this whole new
platform that you're supposed to you know, automatically know how to,
you know, And like we were talking about it, it's like,

(07:02):
you know, people just expect you to just you know,
continue with life as is. But it's inevitable that you're
thinking when your life changes, you've got to make changes too,
And it's just a matter of what changes you do
make and decide to you know, keep and some that
you know, to me are more of on a moral
side of things, and try to keep those and what

(07:23):
was instilled in me on that side of things. And
then you know, there's other things that I think Nashville
has really broadened my perspective on as well in certain ways.
So I think it's a good thing. It's it's just
like you said, finding the balance of it.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
Friends like that certainly has been a game changer for you.
And I started thinking, you know, when you talk to
like preachers or psychologists, they all say that strong friendships
are the healthiest thing in life. I mean, maybe even
beyond having that certain someone, if you have a community
of at least a couple of people you know you

(08:01):
can depend on in life, you've hit the Jackpot. So
do you feel like that's what this song is about.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
Yeah, And and you know what, it really came full
circle for me too, because you know, we put this
song out, I put it out on my own over
a year ago now and just put it out, you know,
to the streaming world and just just to have and
so being able to come back around to it and

(08:28):
put a new face on it, having Jason Aldean jump
on it and really, uh, you know, adding the extra
push to the whole friend's idea was was really Uh,
it was really cool and it definitely sent it drove
it home for me, I think in a lot of ways. Uh.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
I'm just curious, since you had a hand in writing
all the songs on this Carolina Blue CD, are there
any hidden confessions in the songwriting? In other words, how
involved were you with Crickets.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
I'm pretty like Crickets wasn't my original idea. It was
it was another guy in the room, Zach Alvin. It
was his thought. And that song particularly was funny because
you know a lot of times you sit in the
room and you toss around ideas and you're like, yeah,
maybe you can kind of read the room in a
lot of ways. And he threw this idea out and

(09:22):
he was like, Yeah, I got this thing I've been
thinking on. It's called Crickets. And my other co writer,
Lydia Vaughan, we write a lot together and so we
kind of we're always usually on the same page. And
I remember looking at her like, oh boy, this one's
going to be fine, Like what do you have with it?
You know? And when he started explaining how he envisioned
it being set up, it was like, Oh, that's it

(09:44):
kind of clicked for both those who were like, oh,
I haven't heard it that way, you know, very fun, lighthearted,
kind of a younger feel, but yeah, it was. It
was a lot of fun to write.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Okay, here's something interesting that hit me about this whole album.
I mean, you can tell me if it was by
design or or if it's just that you appreciate the
foundation of country music and it just comes out in you.
Very first cut, Way out Wood is reminiscent to me
of Hank Junior, country Boy can Survive, Long Ride Home

(10:16):
reminiscent of Alabama song which you mentioned Alabama, right, Okay.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
Their role on song.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
One More Sunset reminds me of Diamond Rio. One More Day,
and of course Crickets and even you mentioned this was
kind of like a nitty gritty dirt band, the Fishing
in the Dark and then finally without Them once again
Alabama the forty Hour Week song. So it's not as
though I feel that you copied anything. I feel like

(10:49):
you are carrying an important torch forward. Was that by design?

Speaker 3 (10:55):
I guess. So that means a lot to me that
you say that and you hear that, because you know,
that's when we go in and and cut these songs.
That's what I try to do. I try to you know,
made people feel something. And those songs made me feel something.
You know that a lot of the ones you even described,

(11:17):
they definitely have carried me to a certain point and
and made me feel something. Just even listening down through
the song, you feel something. And that's that was my
whole My whole goal with this project was to, you know,
cut songs that are fun, some that are lighthearted, some
that you know you want to go you want to

(11:37):
go see the show after you hear you want to
see it live. And then you have some songs that
have a little bit more meat on them, like without Them,
and and songs that talk about you know, everyday life
and just the more blue collar side of me, because
that's just what I am and that's how I came up,
and so I really wanted to capture that in this project,
and I hope we did a good job. I thank

(11:58):
you for saying that.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
I believe click, uh see, my pick to click for
the future would be I know better.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
A great song.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
Thank you man.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
That'll be a hit.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
All right, I'm gonna hold you.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
Too when the album is released. The day the album
will be released, where do you plan on being and
what will you be doing?

Speaker 3 (12:19):
I believe we're going to be playing stage coach. Oh, yeah,
it's the day of the release day of Yeah, it's
It's gonna be a fun day for me. I've got
a lot going on that those couple of days. I
think we're gonna be there a couple of days. So
I've got a lot going on. But you know, I've
this was always a dream of mine in the back
of my head. I moved to town to write songs.

(12:41):
That was my main goal. I just wanted to be
a signwriter and make that my living. But you know,
I feel like all of us have that that drive
in the back of your head where it's like this
will get me to to being able to cut my
own music and say something that I want to say
as an artist too. And so I'm thankful that you know.
It's it's It came a lot quicker than I thought

(13:03):
it would, to be honest with you, but I'm just
happy to be in the ballgame, right, No argument, no,
no complaints.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Speaking of argument and complaints, I have a very good
for it, having been a wife myself, you know, as
a songwriter, a prolific one as you are, I mean,
you have to call on personal experience. And so a
song like She'll Always Be is that one where your
wife comes to you and says, hm, honey, who's that

(13:30):
Who's that person you're thinking about that might still be
in your heart in some way?

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Yeah, Well that's when I just convinced her that it's
her that's the subject matter. Correct answer, Okay, yep. And
sometimes it's a little harder to do, No, it's most
of the time, it's true, you know. And I think
it's like, you know, for me, songwriting is how I
get those those feelings out. Sometimes I'm not somebody I'm

(13:56):
not necessarily an open book I'm not going to sit
here and talk about my feeling. But when I get
in a writing room, uh, I know that that's part
of my way of contributing to to somebody. Maybe it'll
spark something that somebody else experienced in a similar way.
And so it is as hard as it is for
me sometimes to open up past, you know, past scenarios

(14:18):
or whatever with with different relationships or whatever it may be,
I know that I know that it's something that is
going to contribute in the room, and I know it's
it's just it's relatable because it's something I lived. It
is it's it can't change it, you know what I mean.
That's yeah, that's something too. On the subject matter of
writing for this album, I knew that there were gonna
be songs that did talk about different stage of life

(14:41):
that I was in at the time. But then you
get to songs like I Know Better that talk about
how happy I am now, and it's not I'm not,
you know, regretting looking on the past. I'm you know.
Kid Myself is a song that really was was very
much so one that I really had to open myself
up on, and that one's very close to home for me.

(15:02):
But you know, it wasn't me looking back wishing I
would have done. It was me looking back in an
apologetic sense of like I probably could have done a
few things better back then, you know what I mean.
And so I think that's more of what it is
for me now that I you know, am you know,
married and have a family in my own It's it's
more of that kind of looking back.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
So welcome to an exciting new phase of your career.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
Oh boy, thank you, thank you, Joy. I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
All right, we'll send you a bottle of whiskey or something.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
I will need it, you fake, we'd be glad to
drink it with you. John.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
One interesting world. And by the way, there is a
cat museum over there in Silver, North Carolina. It's the
I think it's called a house cat museum or domestic
cat museum, one or the other.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
Yeah, but it's legit.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
It is legit. I don't think he's ever been in it.
And you know, I looked at a picture of it,
and you know, not to downplay it. I mean, there
are a lot of people going to say, hey, that's
kind of cool, but I looked at a picture. There
were no cars parked out front. But hey, that's that's
during the week.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
Well, I'll just say this, John Morgan is a genuinely
nice guy, very humble with a growing family. John, you
need to get that under control.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
Based all right, stay on the road, man, We have
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