January 28, 2025 • 26 mins
Oh my! What a treat it was to talk with Craig T. Nelson today, who is starring in a new movie, "Green and Gold", in theaters January 31st.
In it, he portrays Buck, a fourth-generation Wisconsin dairy farmer who, along with his granddaughter, fight to preserve their way of life, as small family farms disappear across America. Facing foreclosure, they wager everything on their beloved Green Bay Packers in a hail-Mary effort to save their little chunk of dirt.
Craig T. is warm and gracious, earnest in his support of America's farmers, and hopeful for their future. Don't miss this conversation and don't even think about missing "Green and Gold"! ~ Delilah
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
During this month of January, much of America found itself
in a deep freeze, a cold snap that reached much
further and wider than normal, making many of us very
grateful for temperate climates and warmer seasons. Thankfully, we know
that the frigid weather won't last forever. Spring will come
(00:26):
knocking and we'll let it in with all the excitement
we heap upon a child returning from college for the
first time. With our central heating and air conditioning systems,
it can be easy to feel disconnected from the seasons,
unless an extreme weather event comes round to remind us
(00:47):
that Mother Nature is still firmly in charge. Not so
for America's farmers. Farmers are still connected to the earth,
to the dirt, to the land in a way that
most no longer understand. The slightest upset can really recavoc
especially on a small family farm, which brings me to
(01:09):
today's episode of love Someone. Fathom Entertainment is bringing an
inspirational new film to theaters nationwide on January thirty first,
through Fathom Events, Green and Gold, starring Craig T. Nelson
and I'm bringing Craig T. Nelson to you. You are
(01:29):
familiar with this much beloved actor from his many many
roles such as Hayden Fox in the sitcom Coach, and
from films like Stir Crazy, Poltergeist, All the Right Moves, Action,
Jackson and Turner, and Hooch. He's also the voice of
Mister Incredible in The Incredibles and its sequel. He also
(01:54):
starred as Zeke Braveman in the TV drama series Parenthood,
and most recently was Dale Ballard, Mima's love interest in
Young Sheldon. And that's just naming a few of the
many many shows and movies he's done. In Green and Gold,
Craig T. Nelson portrays Buck Buck is a Wisconsin dairy
(02:17):
farmer with foreclosure looming over the land his family has
cultivated for over four generations. We will talk to CRAIGT.
Nelson about this new role as soon as I've cultivated
some gratitude for today's podcast sponsor. Everyone knows I'm a
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Speaker 2 (04:02):
Craig T.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Nelson, Welcome to love someone with Delilah.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Hi.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
I only have one regret, one regret about seeing green
and gold. This past weekend, and that is that I
had to watch it on my computer because I wish
that I had seen it on the biggest screen ever made.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Yeah, you gotta go see it.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
I'm going to.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
I'm going to. It's when the night it opens. I
promise I'm going to be there because I have not
seen that level of cinematography in a hell of a
long time.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
It's beautiful and it's really really gorgeous. It's like another
character in the movie because.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
It's the setting, the beauty, the cinematography truly is a
lead character in the movie Green and Gold.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Yeah, and it gives you a sense of why they
love it so much, why it's so meaningful.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I haven't i haven't ugly cried at a movie. I'm
trying to think the last time I ugly cried at
a movie.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
It's it's you know, like.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Some women cry really pretty and the tears just kind
of goes down their face, just one or two little tears.
My nose gets like twice its size and red and snotty.
And by the end of Green and Gold, your new movie,
I was and I have an eight year old son.
He was sitting on the floor at my feet and
(05:36):
I was playing with his hair the whole movie, and
he turned around and he's like, Mom, are you okay?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Oh that's wonderful.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
I was so blessed. And there's so much I want
to dig into here. This is about four generations of
family that that are the backbone of our nation, that
feed us every day, that that never get a day off,
(06:04):
that never get a freaking break, and characters that are
deeply flawed but deeply beautiful.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Yeah, that's a that's really nice. Well put, I mean
that's how I felt about the same way. I think
the faith part of it also was interesting to me
because it's wandering. You know, the lead character, or one
of the lead characters, is wandering. He doesn't he doesn't
really have a connection. He doesn't have a relationship. His
(06:37):
relationships to the land and to to a memory perhaps
of his daughter that is uh is hurtful. It has
kept him from He's so invulnerable, and yet he's so
on the edge of not being able to explain even
(06:57):
what his feelings are. He just knows that this is
something that means something to it.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
It means everything. It means The monologue that the character
played by that played your granddaughter Jenny at.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
The end.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
When she's talking about her faith and the land and.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
What is truly holy?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Yeah, to me, Buck, the character you played and his
relationship with the owl that he rescued and the disabled
boy that he fixed his fireplace, and the jerk banker
that he pulled out of the snow, that to me
(07:45):
is such a beautiful example of holy.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Yeah. Yeah, it's really, that's so true.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
The sovereignty of God is so wonderfully mysterious, and you
never know where it's going to appear, in whom it's
going to show it. So and we go through this
journey of life and we ascribe certain judgments to it,
and we assign certain people a back seat or whatever.
(08:15):
There however, we manifest our own prejudice and you realize
that we're all children of God and we have our
journeys and we find them and hopefully and he finds
his Buck, the character in the film, he finds his
throuugh an adversity but a reliance and finally realizing how
(08:40):
powerless he is. And I really identify with that.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
That was going to be my next question, how aligned
how much of you of Craig T.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Nelson is is? Buck?
Speaker 4 (08:58):
I would there's obviously some. I mean it's more in memory.
I think it was for me. The reason one of
the reasons I did the movie was because of the
way he felt the journey he was going through, which
is one I feel that I've I have passed through,
(09:20):
have yet to go on other journeys. But I wanted
to be able to tell that story because I find
that it revealed in me my own reticence to understand
that other people have their own walk and I need
to be open to that. And also the fact that
I come from generational farmers and the fact that they're
(09:42):
being it's almost being lost, it's almost it's such a
beautiful tradition.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Well, there's well, I must.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Say that I would have said in the same way,
except when I went to Wisconsin and we're doing the
film and then you meet these people and you meet
not only the people, but you meet who they are,
and there it was such a for me, such a
revelation that will wait a minute, here there's still people here,
(10:14):
They're still doing this, there's still there is a community
of them, and they need supporting.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
And you know.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
What I had done is kind of put them on
a back burner and said well, we're losing them or
we've lost them, and I don't think that's true. I
think that there's still hope there. And I that was
another beautiful part of being a part of the movie
was that.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Revelation, so so many beautiful parts. The development of the
relationship between Buck and his granddaughter, who were the two
main characters. And the beautiful woman that played your wife,
Holy Annabelle Amore a gorgeous and she played it so
(11:05):
such a great, little smart, eleichy, beautiful, loving.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Strong Midwest woman.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
I just ah, I loved everything about this movie, but
that relationship between the granddaughter who had her own dreams
and aspirations and her grandpa.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Who, because of the heart of.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Losing her mama, his daughter just couldn't even give an inch, like,
could not could not validate to save his life, her
talent or her gift or her passions. And the way
that in the end that came together, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
It was so well done. It was so beautiful.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Man.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
I just want I want everyone who's who's got a dream,
I want everyone who's got a stubborn, crusty old man
that they don't understand. I want everyone to go see
Green and Gold, and we didn't even mention the football team.
I'm not a sports fan, so when I heard it
was about the Packers, I'm like, okay.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Yeah, but it's not about the Packers.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
It's about devotion and it's about community and it's about
you know, having a common, joyful bond that propels you
and gives you, gives you hope, gives you joy. And
for people who do have a team, they're gonna love
(12:31):
it even more.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Yeah, it was so interesting in so many ways to
find you know, the Green Bay Packers being publicly owned and.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Community owned.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Was also something that was you know, being part of
that environment is is radical and it's so interesting the
fandom and the devotion that they have, and I think
that kind of commitment it is so you know, we
get lost in the vagaries of all of the extensions
(13:07):
that we're given and I should say distractions, and as
a result, we lose focus, We lose the perception of
the oneness of us, all that the individuality, and I
think the beauty of it is that the revelation in
the movie for me is that in recognizing that someone
(13:31):
does have talent and needs to go out and experience
the world, to be able to share the gift of saying,
I know what that world's like, and I need you
to keep in mind what you're leaving behind, because at
some point you may get out there forget what is
that you're leaving behind or had left behind, and then
(13:54):
when you need it, you can't make your way back
because you can't remember it.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
You can't find your way back home. Another thing that
was woven throughout the movie that other people might miss,
but because I've been in radio for fifty years now,
(14:22):
was the subtle way that the radio show was woven
in from the very beginning the opening scene of the movie.
And then in every home there's a radio sitting on
the you know, on the table where you would get
your weather forecast. And in every truck they're listening to
the local DJ. And local radio back in the day
(14:48):
was lifeline. It was their lifeline.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
And now you.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Know everything is owned by the same two or three corporations.
But in small towns, in small communities, there are still fabulous,
really wonderful yeah radio stations.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Yeah, it's wonderful.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
And you know, you only had to push like two
or three buttons, and you know, and then maybe you
get some FM, but for sure you get the farm
report and an update on pork bellies.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Pork bellies six am every morning. I had to do
the pork belly, the farm report. Yeah, but again, it
was about all about community and everything in the story
was about you know, we have this catchphrase, these catchphrases
now intentionality and being present and building community. But when
(15:46):
we have opportunities to do that, to be present at
the birth of a calf that's stuck, to be intentional
in having a family dinner and talking like you know
Buck's family did the movie, and to build community like
the church had, and like pulling somebody out of the
snow who's done you wrong and loving them anyway.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
And those were two great draft horses too. They were
just so huge. It was like amazing to me how
big those horses were and how strong they are. But
you mentioned the church, and I loved sitting there in
the pew and listening to that choir. It was just
so genuine and so beautifully done, and it was so
(16:31):
rich and so tiny.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Was that an actual church building that you guys found
and filmed in.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
That wasn't It was the beautiful little church like you
would imagine and the choir with the Luteran choir, and
they were who they were, and by golly, they were
going to get up there and they sang and it
was it just took me back.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
So it was so real it was and so beautiful.
It was so.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
BEAUTIFU you know, from from doing your calisthenics in your
in your chonies and your tidy whities to spitting.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
I mean, you nailed the character. And I kept going,
how much of this is.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Craig ten Milson really like, do you do you do
calisthenics in the morning?
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Well, yeah, you know, you work out, but you don't
do it in the tidy whities and you're not doing
it with the apparatus that he had, which was basically
nothing and the regimen I think that he wanted to
employ how he wanted to look or feel. It was
really off of the farmer that we spent a lot
(17:42):
of time with and how he not only behaved, but
what the animals. The animals in the movie were extraordinary
because it was like, I don't know, if you've been
around a lot of dairy cattle, they are not only huge,
they don't really care.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Craig, do you see the background of my studio. Do
you see my walls? This isn't like an image that
I put behind me. I'm broadcasting from a barn. I
live on a five hundred acre cattle ranch.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Oh well then you know.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Yeah, I'm the one that has to pull the calf
out when it gets stuck.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Oh well, there you go.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
So, I mean the cats that this particular farm had
were so extraordinary, and they wanted to show up on
every scene that you did because we used the interiors
of the farmhouse that they had.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
I like that. What was the billy's comment? I like her.
It wasn't decorps motif. I like the motiva. Good writing.
Whoever wrote that line? Good writing?
Speaker 3 (18:53):
It was. Yeah, it's really funny.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Yeah, there was a lot of so much good ride.
It's such a good movie. It is such a good movie.
Thank you for doing it. Thank you for sharing this
beautiful story. What a great conversation we're having with Craig T.
Nelson talking about the movie Green and Gold. We'll have
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How can people if they say, you know what, I
want to care about farmers, I want to know more.
How can I support them? How can I drive by
the mailbox?
Speaker 2 (20:46):
You know? How can people do?
Speaker 3 (20:48):
That?
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Is their way?
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (20:50):
I mean you go to farm Aid and you can
go to any website that has to do with the
Wisconsin farmers for instance, Wisconsin, any farm that's located, you know,
and they're still out there. It's very easy to do
and find out what you can do. Just a voice
alone is really important, but also the subsidies, you know,
(21:17):
So hopefully we'll have an impact on that and get
people interested.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Well, it touched my heart. It made me laugh, and
it made me ugly cry, and it made me proud
to be in radio, and it made me proud to
love dirt. And it made me proud to be married
to a man who is so much like the lead character.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
It scared him. He watched it.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Let me tell you you nailed that character because I'm
married to him.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Yeah. It's Yeah, it's a place that a lot of people.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Have gone, and thank god I've had the opportunity to
meet some of them and talk to them and get
to know them.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
We share a very common bond in that regard.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Well, God bless you, Craig T. Nelson.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
The movie is Green and Gold and which is about
the Green Bay Packers, but it's not. It's about love
and life and family and farming and cows and horses
and cats that were in every scene.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
I love the little gray kitten. Oh yeah, that was
my favorite.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
I love the owl, I love the.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Luna, the owl. Yeah, I remember when we shot that.
I said to the guys on the set, I said,
can you please get a picture of the owl as
it's released for me so I can remember this moment.
And when that owl came out of the netting and
raised up, it was just such a signature moment and
(22:53):
so meaningful. And they got a picture of it and
they sent it to me, and it's like one of
my favorite favorite photos I've gone.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
That was one of my favorite images. That and the
deer that we're bounding across the farm and through the cornfield.
Just so many beauty, so much high quality cinematography that
if for nothing else, you just watch it for the
beauty of the great lakes and the geese that are
(23:23):
flying overhead, and the owl and the deer and the
mist in the morning. It just visually, it's like a
gorgeous painting that you get to enjoy for a couple
of hours.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Yeah, like you said, I mean, it's just beautiful for
me too.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Thank you, thank you for being with us.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
God bless you.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Yeah, God bless you too.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
In Green and Gold, a fourth generation dairy farmer and
his grand daughter fight to preserve their way of life
as small family farms disappear across America. Facing foreclosure, they
wager everything on their beloved Green Bay Packers in a
hail merry effort to save their little chunk of dirt.
(24:18):
Green and Gold is presented in collaboration with the Green
Bay Packers, the nation's only community owned professional football team
with over five hundred thousand shareholders and culvers. Yes, the
beloved family restaurant known for their butter burgers, and creators
of that Thank You Farmers Project, which has donated more
(24:41):
than six point five million dollars to ensure a sustainable
food supply for our future. The story you'll see in
Green and Gold is of hardworking farmers caring for their animals,
growing crops, and engaging in climate smart sustainability effort to
protect our land while producing food that feeds our families.
(25:05):
Brothers Anders and Davin Lyndwall, who directed and produced, are
behind the film, inspired by their grandfather, a dairy farmer,
and the challenges farmers face into today's economy. This is
a heartfelt tribute to rural America, celebrating the strength, perseverance,
(25:25):
and traditions of farming communities in theaters nationwide on January
thirty first, twenty twenty five, through Fathom Events. It is
a wonderful film that combines America's themes of family, farming,
and football that will get you in all the fields.
Let me tell you, I was ugly crying. I was sobbing.
(25:46):
I love this movie. Take the whole family and enjoy.
Stay warm, my friends, and love someone by supporting your
local farmers
During this month of January, much of America found itself
in a deep freeze, a cold snap that reached much
further and wider than normal, making many of us very
grateful for temperate climates and warmer seasons. Thankfully, we know
that the frigid weather won't last forever. Spring will come
(00:26):
knocking and we'll let it in with all the excitement
we heap upon a child returning from college for the
first time. With our central heating and air conditioning systems,
it can be easy to feel disconnected from the seasons,
unless an extreme weather event comes round to remind us
(00:47):
that Mother Nature is still firmly in charge. Not so
for America's farmers. Farmers are still connected to the earth,
to the dirt, to the land in a way that
most no longer understand. The slightest upset can really recavoc
especially on a small family farm, which brings me to
(01:09):
today's episode of love Someone. Fathom Entertainment is bringing an
inspirational new film to theaters nationwide on January thirty first,
through Fathom Events, Green and Gold, starring Craig T. Nelson
and I'm bringing Craig T. Nelson to you. You are
(01:29):
familiar with this much beloved actor from his many many
roles such as Hayden Fox in the sitcom Coach, and
from films like Stir Crazy, Poltergeist, All the Right Moves, Action,
Jackson and Turner, and Hooch. He's also the voice of
Mister Incredible in The Incredibles and its sequel. He also
(01:54):
starred as Zeke Braveman in the TV drama series Parenthood,
and most recently was Dale Ballard, Mima's love interest in
Young Sheldon. And that's just naming a few of the
many many shows and movies he's done. In Green and Gold,
Craig T. Nelson portrays Buck Buck is a Wisconsin dairy
(02:17):
farmer with foreclosure looming over the land his family has
cultivated for over four generations. We will talk to CRAIGT.
Nelson about this new role as soon as I've cultivated
some gratitude for today's podcast sponsor. Everyone knows I'm a
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Speaker 2 (04:02):
Craig T.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Nelson, Welcome to love someone with Delilah.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Hi.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
I only have one regret, one regret about seeing green
and gold. This past weekend, and that is that I
had to watch it on my computer because I wish
that I had seen it on the biggest screen ever made.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Yeah, you gotta go see it.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
I'm going to.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
I'm going to. It's when the night it opens. I
promise I'm going to be there because I have not
seen that level of cinematography in a hell of a
long time.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
It's beautiful and it's really really gorgeous. It's like another
character in the movie because.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
It's the setting, the beauty, the cinematography truly is a
lead character in the movie Green and Gold.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
Yeah, and it gives you a sense of why they
love it so much, why it's so meaningful.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
I haven't i haven't ugly cried at a movie. I'm
trying to think the last time I ugly cried at
a movie.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
It's it's you know, like.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Some women cry really pretty and the tears just kind
of goes down their face, just one or two little tears.
My nose gets like twice its size and red and snotty.
And by the end of Green and Gold, your new movie,
I was and I have an eight year old son.
He was sitting on the floor at my feet and
(05:36):
I was playing with his hair the whole movie, and
he turned around and he's like, Mom, are you okay?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Oh that's wonderful.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
I was so blessed. And there's so much I want
to dig into here. This is about four generations of
family that that are the backbone of our nation, that
feed us every day, that that never get a day off,
(06:04):
that never get a freaking break, and characters that are
deeply flawed but deeply beautiful.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Yeah, that's a that's really nice. Well put, I mean
that's how I felt about the same way. I think
the faith part of it also was interesting to me
because it's wandering. You know, the lead character, or one
of the lead characters, is wandering. He doesn't he doesn't
really have a connection. He doesn't have a relationship. His
(06:37):
relationships to the land and to to a memory perhaps
of his daughter that is uh is hurtful. It has
kept him from He's so invulnerable, and yet he's so
on the edge of not being able to explain even
(06:57):
what his feelings are. He just knows that this is
something that means something to it.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
It means everything. It means The monologue that the character
played by that played your granddaughter Jenny at.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
The end.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
When she's talking about her faith and the land and.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
What is truly holy?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Yeah, to me, Buck, the character you played and his
relationship with the owl that he rescued and the disabled
boy that he fixed his fireplace, and the jerk banker
that he pulled out of the snow, that to me
(07:45):
is such a beautiful example of holy.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Yeah. Yeah, it's really, that's so true.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
The sovereignty of God is so wonderfully mysterious, and you
never know where it's going to appear, in whom it's
going to show it. So and we go through this
journey of life and we ascribe certain judgments to it,
and we assign certain people a back seat or whatever.
(08:15):
There however, we manifest our own prejudice and you realize
that we're all children of God and we have our
journeys and we find them and hopefully and he finds
his Buck, the character in the film, he finds his
throuugh an adversity but a reliance and finally realizing how
(08:40):
powerless he is. And I really identify with that.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
That was going to be my next question, how aligned
how much of you of Craig T.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Nelson is is? Buck?
Speaker 4 (08:58):
I would there's obviously some. I mean it's more in memory.
I think it was for me. The reason one of
the reasons I did the movie was because of the
way he felt the journey he was going through, which
is one I feel that I've I have passed through,
(09:20):
have yet to go on other journeys. But I wanted
to be able to tell that story because I find
that it revealed in me my own reticence to understand
that other people have their own walk and I need
to be open to that. And also the fact that
I come from generational farmers and the fact that they're
(09:42):
being it's almost being lost, it's almost it's such a
beautiful tradition.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Well, there's well, I must.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Say that I would have said in the same way,
except when I went to Wisconsin and we're doing the
film and then you meet these people and you meet
not only the people, but you meet who they are,
and there it was such a for me, such a
revelation that will wait a minute, here there's still people here,
(10:14):
They're still doing this, there's still there is a community
of them, and they need supporting.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
And you know.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
What I had done is kind of put them on
a back burner and said well, we're losing them or
we've lost them, and I don't think that's true. I
think that there's still hope there. And I that was
another beautiful part of being a part of the movie
was that.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Revelation, so so many beautiful parts. The development of the
relationship between Buck and his granddaughter, who were the two
main characters. And the beautiful woman that played your wife,
Holy Annabelle Amore a gorgeous and she played it so
(11:05):
such a great, little smart, eleichy, beautiful, loving.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Strong Midwest woman.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
I just ah, I loved everything about this movie, but
that relationship between the granddaughter who had her own dreams
and aspirations and her grandpa.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Who, because of the heart of.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Losing her mama, his daughter just couldn't even give an inch, like,
could not could not validate to save his life, her
talent or her gift or her passions. And the way
that in the end that came together, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
It was so well done. It was so beautiful.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Man.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
I just want I want everyone who's who's got a dream,
I want everyone who's got a stubborn, crusty old man
that they don't understand. I want everyone to go see
Green and Gold, and we didn't even mention the football team.
I'm not a sports fan, so when I heard it
was about the Packers, I'm like, okay.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Yeah, but it's not about the Packers.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
It's about devotion and it's about community and it's about
you know, having a common, joyful bond that propels you
and gives you, gives you hope, gives you joy. And
for people who do have a team, they're gonna love
(12:31):
it even more.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Yeah, it was so interesting in so many ways to
find you know, the Green Bay Packers being publicly owned and.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Community owned.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Was also something that was you know, being part of
that environment is is radical and it's so interesting the
fandom and the devotion that they have, and I think
that kind of commitment it is so you know, we
get lost in the vagaries of all of the extensions
(13:07):
that we're given and I should say distractions, and as
a result, we lose focus, We lose the perception of
the oneness of us, all that the individuality, and I
think the beauty of it is that the revelation in
the movie for me is that in recognizing that someone
(13:31):
does have talent and needs to go out and experience
the world, to be able to share the gift of saying,
I know what that world's like, and I need you
to keep in mind what you're leaving behind, because at
some point you may get out there forget what is
that you're leaving behind or had left behind, and then
(13:54):
when you need it, you can't make your way back
because you can't remember it.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
You can't find your way back home. Another thing that
was woven throughout the movie that other people might miss,
but because I've been in radio for fifty years now,
(14:22):
was the subtle way that the radio show was woven
in from the very beginning the opening scene of the movie.
And then in every home there's a radio sitting on
the you know, on the table where you would get
your weather forecast. And in every truck they're listening to
the local DJ. And local radio back in the day
(14:48):
was lifeline. It was their lifeline.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
And now you.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
Know everything is owned by the same two or three corporations.
But in small towns, in small communities, there are still fabulous,
really wonderful yeah radio stations.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Yeah, it's wonderful.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
And you know, you only had to push like two
or three buttons, and you know, and then maybe you
get some FM, but for sure you get the farm
report and an update on pork bellies.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Pork bellies six am every morning. I had to do
the pork belly, the farm report. Yeah, but again, it
was about all about community and everything in the story
was about you know, we have this catchphrase, these catchphrases
now intentionality and being present and building community. But when
(15:46):
we have opportunities to do that, to be present at
the birth of a calf that's stuck, to be intentional
in having a family dinner and talking like you know
Buck's family did the movie, and to build community like
the church had, and like pulling somebody out of the
snow who's done you wrong and loving them anyway.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
And those were two great draft horses too. They were
just so huge. It was like amazing to me how
big those horses were and how strong they are. But
you mentioned the church, and I loved sitting there in
the pew and listening to that choir. It was just
so genuine and so beautifully done, and it was so
(16:31):
rich and so tiny.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Was that an actual church building that you guys found
and filmed in.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
That wasn't It was the beautiful little church like you
would imagine and the choir with the Luteran choir, and
they were who they were, and by golly, they were
going to get up there and they sang and it
was it just took me back.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
So it was so real it was and so beautiful.
It was so.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
BEAUTIFU you know, from from doing your calisthenics in your
in your chonies and your tidy whities to spitting.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
I mean, you nailed the character. And I kept going,
how much of this is.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Craig ten Milson really like, do you do you do
calisthenics in the morning?
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Well, yeah, you know, you work out, but you don't
do it in the tidy whities and you're not doing
it with the apparatus that he had, which was basically
nothing and the regimen I think that he wanted to
employ how he wanted to look or feel. It was
really off of the farmer that we spent a lot
(17:42):
of time with and how he not only behaved, but
what the animals. The animals in the movie were extraordinary
because it was like, I don't know, if you've been
around a lot of dairy cattle, they are not only huge,
they don't really care.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Craig, do you see the background of my studio. Do
you see my walls? This isn't like an image that
I put behind me. I'm broadcasting from a barn. I
live on a five hundred acre cattle ranch.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Oh well then you know.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Yeah, I'm the one that has to pull the calf
out when it gets stuck.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Oh well, there you go.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
So, I mean the cats that this particular farm had
were so extraordinary, and they wanted to show up on
every scene that you did because we used the interiors
of the farmhouse that they had.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
I like that. What was the billy's comment? I like her.
It wasn't decorps motif. I like the motiva. Good writing.
Whoever wrote that line? Good writing?
Speaker 3 (18:53):
It was. Yeah, it's really funny.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Yeah, there was a lot of so much good ride.
It's such a good movie. It is such a good movie.
Thank you for doing it. Thank you for sharing this
beautiful story. What a great conversation we're having with Craig T.
Nelson talking about the movie Green and Gold. We'll have
a minute or two more with him after I've told
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How can people if they say, you know what, I
want to care about farmers, I want to know more.
How can I support them? How can I drive by
the mailbox?
Speaker 2 (20:46):
You know? How can people do?
Speaker 3 (20:48):
That?
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Is their way?
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (20:50):
I mean you go to farm Aid and you can
go to any website that has to do with the
Wisconsin farmers for instance, Wisconsin, any farm that's located, you know,
and they're still out there. It's very easy to do
and find out what you can do. Just a voice
alone is really important, but also the subsidies, you know,
(21:17):
So hopefully we'll have an impact on that and get
people interested.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Well, it touched my heart. It made me laugh, and
it made me ugly cry, and it made me proud
to be in radio, and it made me proud to
love dirt. And it made me proud to be married
to a man who is so much like the lead character.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
It scared him. He watched it.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Let me tell you you nailed that character because I'm
married to him.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Yeah. It's Yeah, it's a place that a lot of people.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Have gone, and thank god I've had the opportunity to
meet some of them and talk to them and get
to know them.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
We share a very common bond in that regard.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Well, God bless you, Craig T. Nelson.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
The movie is Green and Gold and which is about
the Green Bay Packers, but it's not. It's about love
and life and family and farming and cows and horses
and cats that were in every scene.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
I love the little gray kitten. Oh yeah, that was
my favorite.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
I love the owl, I love the.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Luna, the owl. Yeah, I remember when we shot that.
I said to the guys on the set, I said,
can you please get a picture of the owl as
it's released for me so I can remember this moment.
And when that owl came out of the netting and
raised up, it was just such a signature moment and
(22:53):
so meaningful. And they got a picture of it and
they sent it to me, and it's like one of
my favorite favorite photos I've gone.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
That was one of my favorite images. That and the
deer that we're bounding across the farm and through the cornfield.
Just so many beauty, so much high quality cinematography that
if for nothing else, you just watch it for the
beauty of the great lakes and the geese that are
(23:23):
flying overhead, and the owl and the deer and the
mist in the morning. It just visually, it's like a
gorgeous painting that you get to enjoy for a couple
of hours.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Yeah, like you said, I mean, it's just beautiful for
me too.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Thank you, thank you for being with us.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
God bless you.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Yeah, God bless you too.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
In Green and Gold, a fourth generation dairy farmer and
his grand daughter fight to preserve their way of life
as small family farms disappear across America. Facing foreclosure, they
wager everything on their beloved Green Bay Packers in a
hail merry effort to save their little chunk of dirt.
(24:18):
Green and Gold is presented in collaboration with the Green
Bay Packers, the nation's only community owned professional football team
with over five hundred thousand shareholders and culvers. Yes, the
beloved family restaurant known for their butter burgers, and creators
of that Thank You Farmers Project, which has donated more
(24:41):
than six point five million dollars to ensure a sustainable
food supply for our future. The story you'll see in
Green and Gold is of hardworking farmers caring for their animals,
growing crops, and engaging in climate smart sustainability effort to
protect our land while producing food that feeds our families.
(25:05):
Brothers Anders and Davin Lyndwall, who directed and produced, are
behind the film, inspired by their grandfather, a dairy farmer,
and the challenges farmers face into today's economy. This is
a heartfelt tribute to rural America, celebrating the strength, perseverance,
(25:25):
and traditions of farming communities in theaters nationwide on January
thirty first, twenty twenty five, through Fathom Events. It is
a wonderful film that combines America's themes of family, farming,
and football that will get you in all the fields.
Let me tell you, I was ugly crying. I was sobbing.
(25:46):
I love this movie. Take the whole family and enjoy.
Stay warm, my friends, and love someone by supporting your
local farmers
Host
Delilah
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