Special Guest in the Building!

Special guest in the building.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, here we go. Welcome in everybody, the After
Show Podcast, justin Winnie. We do have special guests in
the building. We'll get to them in one second there,
and also the reason why Winni's dressed up. We'll address
all of that on the app to show in a minute.
But you can always leave us a talk back on
the iHeart app. That's a cool feature that just launched.
If you're listening to this podcast, you have a question
or a comment, you can press that little microphone button

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and send it right in.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
And we love good news.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Hi guys, just checking in again. Last time I checked in,
I said I was one week alcohol free, and now
I want to check in and say I am three
weeks alcohol free. The mood and change my voice from
when I left that talk back two weeks ago is
just a world of a difference and I feel amazing
and I have to say it's the best decision I've

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ever made.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Love you, guys, Love you, and thank you and congratulations.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Keep going.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
It just keeps getting better. And that will be a
good segue into our guests, and that would be Maddy
Power's CEO of Power of Recovery. Welcome Maddie Hey, guys,
welcome back, Thank you. I see you have a cane.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
That's what we're going to do. I see you have
a cane. There you had a little precidure, little hip replacement. Yeah,
how you failing? Very good?

Speaker 1 (01:09):
Okay, very good? All right, everything's going good. Surgery as well.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
Surgery went great three weeks ago, I think yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Yeah, I'm moving around pretty good. Physical therapy yeah, twice
a week. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
So what are they telling you? Eventually you'll be with
a brand new hip. You'll feel like younger.

Speaker 4 (01:26):
I don't think you can have a feel younger. Okay,
but I just didn't want it to hurt anymore. It's
more of a yeah it sucks. I couldn't move.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Yeah, there it goes.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Well, you look good. I was hoping for the walker.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Because you wanted me in last week. It was no way.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
But the can will just do just fine.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
It would have diminished everything, Winnie, to see me in
a walker never happen.

Speaker 5 (01:48):
You know what, Maybe I have a king for that.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
You don't know, really, you don't know. But I got
two hips.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Well, Maddie, you're in luck today because Winnie, who tip
every day on the show, dresses you know, like a
massive you know, okay, seriously a little bit. You know, right,
my shower that's not mass very clean, very clean, but
you know, sweatshirt, hoodie and stuff. But today she's all
dressed up. I am in a beautiful, beautiful strawberry dress.

(02:17):
Looks like, you know, pick some strawberries.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
You do look nice to So when she came.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
In this morning, I go, what are you dressed up for?
You have a client thing? She goes, no reason, and
I didn't think of it, and then it hit me
that you were coming in. She's dressed up for you.

Speaker 4 (02:32):
I'm blushing. I know you can't see me on the radio,
but I'm yeah, that's.

Speaker 5 (02:36):
All for Maddie.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Yeah, for sure. I am so Maddie. What's going on
in your world?

Speaker 4 (02:41):
Nothing but just doing the thing, you know, trying to
help people day at time. I'm trying to stay clean
myself the day at a time. That's the most important thing,
putting it all together.

Speaker 5 (02:50):
Yeah, can I ask you and you guys not, I'm not.
I don't have any issues the addiction. Do you still
crave it at this point in your sobriety.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Runs through my head now and then sometimes yeah sometimes
not like not like it was like in the beginning,
you have an obsession and compulsion that you can't get
rid of. I mean I thought about getting high every
single day for the first year, you know, and then
one day it was just gone. But sometimes passing thoughts.

Speaker 5 (03:14):
For instance, you just had surgery, so you went under.
Obviously you got some drugs. Was that like a who
I missed this failing?

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Absolutely? Yeah, I let the gorilla out of the cage.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
Yeah, but I had it done on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
I was on pain meds. By Thursday, I.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
Was in a meeting.

Speaker 5 (03:32):
Okay, oh wow.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
If I didn't, i'd i'd still be using them.

Speaker 5 (03:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:36):
It all depends on if you're taking care of yourself
and doing everything the way it's laid out, you're untouchable.

Speaker 5 (03:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
The second you stop doing taking little things away from
what makes you feel it's just every day maybe, and
it can be the second you stop taking away little things,
then your mind stops going a little crazy. We have
a disease of a day that speaks to us in.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Our own voice.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
My own head's lying to me every single day, and
the only weapon for that is guys like this.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Yeah, it's about you know, having a network, having people
around you talking about it. You know, isolation, that's what
kills you.

Speaker 5 (04:16):
True.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
So I don't think about it often, honestly, but every
once in a while it passes through my head. But
I just play the tape through. That's the biggest thing
is you play the tape through. If I do it,
if I pick up what's going to happen. It's not
about what's going to happen right now, I'm gonna get high.
What's gonna happen after? You know, we have chickens at
the house. The chickens will be gone.

Speaker 5 (04:35):
Those would make me get high.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Now the chickens are actually great. Yeah, no, we have
another issue at my house, so that my daughter's birthday
party is next Saturday's about it?

Speaker 5 (04:47):
You didn't mention it?

Speaker 2 (04:48):
No, I did.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
When you're coming to the phone when he don't be
one of them, what do you mean they're like you
need a written it.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
It's just you come.

Speaker 5 (04:56):
Every year, Honestly, Do I really want to go hang
out with a bunch of like little children.

Speaker 4 (05:01):
If you're a good friend of mine, you will not
invite to your kid's birthday all.

Speaker 5 (05:06):
The time for his children? Right, where's my where's my
presence for my dogs. Because I don't have kids. I
don't get for you, I don't get No, I'm not
one of them. I'm just saying, we get into I
show up for your children all the time. I'm anti.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Are you guys hiring a power of recovery? I would
love to work for which one any of us, all
of them, any of.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
So wait, you're gonna both come yes and do this?

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Yere Yeah, no, no, no, no, just her take her.
You know what you would be good at? Know what
she'd be good at?

Speaker 2 (05:33):
What would you be good at?

Speaker 1 (05:34):
She would hit the streets and go get people and
tell them they gotta get clean recovery.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yeah, I don't think that's.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
How That's not how it works.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
I wish, I wish when he could yell us all
into recovery. Yeah, I don't think that's how it works.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
So the issues at my house is my wife is
now this big farmer. She has nine chickens. So she
hired fucking old McDonald and his farm to come to
my house to the party. They're talking ponies, ducks like
a whole bunch of animals are coming to my birthday.
The birthday party, and we gave a deposit like three
months ago, and the guys ghosted us. We can't get
a hold of how much did you give him for

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a deposit?

Speaker 2 (06:11):
Enough? Oh yeah, I ask him what he makes an
hour after that.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
Oh, she's obsessed with money. Yeah, she's obsessed with money.

Speaker 5 (06:17):
Curious what he scammed you out of?

Speaker 2 (06:20):
It's always about money with you.

Speaker 5 (06:21):
No, it's not, it's not.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
I think she's just looking over for a first I am, because.

Speaker 5 (06:26):
He's got scammed a lot lately. It's so funny, I say,
you know, he used to live a life of crime
and like you know, addiction, and he was scamming everybody
and just like not a good person. And the last
year he's been scammed out of thousands of dollars. Right,
he's given out his debit card, his social security Like
this kid has been You forgot all his training like
he used to be the sixteen years out of the game.

(06:47):
He's embarrassing you.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Ever hear the story. Once you stay clean long enough,
you do lose a step.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
You lose it.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
You ever hear the story.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
So, by chance, my debit card got hacked, really hacked,
and so they called me from India, right, and so
they text me and say, did you make the precha
snow call them? Guy from India says, we'll send you
a new card. I'll set a month later. I'm laying
at eight o'clock a night. I'm going to Aruba for
my ten year anniversary that weekend. Pick up the phone,
no text, phone call India. So this is your bank.
I'm like, oh, dude, I'm going away. This happen again.

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He don't worry, We'll take care of it. He goes,
you're gonna get a text, just press one. And I'm like, okay.
Text comes in to press one. He goes, okay, we'll
put you on hold for ten minutes. So I'm on hold,
listening to the music, waiting to go to bed. And
so I'm like, let me just open my bank account.
So I open it up and I'm literally watching all
my money get transferred from my savings to my checking
one thousand thousand, three thousand, two thousand, and I'm like

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freaking out. I'm like, is this a fucking dream. The
guy comes back. I go, bro my money. He goes,
don't worry, sir, we're gonna get it back. No problem,
will take care of you. So I'm on hold. D
d D and then he's like, you're gonna have your
money back tonight. So I'm waiting and he goes, okay, sir,
they have your AC content. We'll get your money back,
but do you have any other credit cards? And so
I'm like, well, I have a Jet Blue card and
he goes, holy shit, oh they have your Jet Blue card.

(08:00):
I'm like, how do you know you're sovereign bank since
you know, and he goes, We're gonna call Jet Blue,
get them on the phone, figure this out.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
I'm like okay. So my wife's like, is this a
real thing? What are you doing right now? I'm like yeah.
So then I'm on hold.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
They come back another Indian yeah, and he's like, yes,
I'm from Jet Blue.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Hair we have you.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
Yes, your card is being used. I'm like, how do
you see that?

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Like we can't.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
They go do you have your card with you? Yes,
and they go read me your cardinals. Oh okay. So
now I'm like okay. So I read the card number
and when I read the last number, it like hit
me and I was like fuck. So they put me
back on hold, and I forgot this part of the story.
I had gotten a call first right before they called

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from Amsterdam. It said Amsterdam, and I didn't answer. It
didn't answer. It didn't answer it. So then they called
and it said Santana they're bank. So I answered and
that was the first call. So after I said, gave
the last number. Now they're draining my jet Blue card.
They already drained fifteen grand from my fucking thing. So
I'm on hold and I'm like talking to my wife
and I'm like, I think they got me. I think
they got me. So they come back and I'm like,

(09:02):
who the fuck is this and They're like, Sara, they're
trying to talk to me.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
So she goes, hang up. I hang up.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Okay, the phone rings. It's the bank again. I don't
don't answer it rings again. The bank don't answer. It
rings again, says Amsterdam, and I'm like, I answer it. Hello, sir,
this is Santander Bank. And dude, all the fucking blood
like drained from my body.

Speaker 5 (09:23):
What's funny?

Speaker 1 (09:24):
They got it all.

Speaker 5 (09:24):
In the midst of all this, I was sleeping because
it was like nine o'clock at night, so we were
to bed early. I woke up from a text from
him being like, bro, my account got hacked. No, this
is before he realized he's being scammed.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
He said, what the fuck?

Speaker 5 (09:35):
They took all my money? And then the next morning
comes in he goes, yeah, that was a scam. I
got scammed it of all my money and they literally
took all his money while he watched. He actually handed
them his money.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
I used to be a good primini. Well, I.

Speaker 5 (09:49):
Was like, that's so embarrassing that you didn't know when
they first called you, because they never call you from
a bank.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
I didn't know that. That's a good tip for any listeners.
They will never just call you. They always text their
email first. Yeah, that's a good you know they might
come after you.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
Don't care for any money in the bank, really under
the mattress. Oh he's a money guy.

Speaker 5 (10:07):
Okay, yeah, speaking of that, you didn't take you to
one Celtic How long did it take Celtics team this year?

Speaker 2 (10:14):
What is that?

Speaker 5 (10:15):
What is that? Fake? Fake love?

Speaker 2 (10:17):
I'll put it right out here on the radio. I
promise you this season coming up, we will.

Speaker 4 (10:22):
Okay, let's go, all right, cool, Liann, you heard it,
Liann's coming with us, all right, cool, coolt's go.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
He'll take you to the worst Celtics game the whole season.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
You can pick it.

Speaker 5 (10:31):
Okay, fine, Lakers, Lakers, Lakers.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
Really he has four season takes?

Speaker 5 (10:39):
My boyfriend yeah, okay, great, thought I thought it was.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
One you, me.

Speaker 5 (10:45):
My boyfriend and Darren.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (10:48):
What's his name is?

Speaker 2 (10:50):
Daryl?

Speaker 5 (10:51):
I love that comes in with you glasses, m.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
Damon, dude and great.

Speaker 5 (11:00):
I love that for us.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
All right, you're in. Well you did ask him towards
the end of the season last year.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
But I feel like you take me for a playoff games.

Speaker 5 (11:08):
Oh that's not what I said. I think it was.
I think it was like October.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
Yeah, well you so in your season ticket hold of
the playoffs you get them, but then they screw yeah
yeah right, yeah, okay, you're reupping for next season, obviously
you have.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Really, so how.

Speaker 5 (11:23):
Long do you have to have them for before you
can get rid of it?

Speaker 2 (11:25):
I get them three years at a time.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
So you signed three years?

Speaker 5 (11:28):
Is that because you lock in the price of the ticket?
Is that why they do it?

Speaker 2 (11:31):
They go up every year a little bit? Oh really?

Speaker 5 (11:34):
Yeah? Damn? What's it like living your life?

Speaker 4 (11:38):
I'm jelly that nobody can scam me out of money
because it's all in the ticket.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
Smart. Smart? Uh So the reason that Maddie's here. We're
gonna do some recording after this podcast. But people that
don't know, I work very closely with Power of Recovery
because I am myself in recovery. Clean Dead's coming up
actually June twenty fourth, two weeks from today. Hello, seventeen
damn no way, six days yo? See that perfect? Yeah,

(12:06):
So Maddie obviously runs Power of Recovery. It's so complicated.
See a Power of Recovery, which is a recovery day
treatment center in Revere.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yes, you also own a number of.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
Sober houses Chelsea, Chelsea's house, right, but then you also
have other ship too.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
I never know what you have.

Speaker 4 (12:23):
Well, we'll opening h adolescent mental health program in Danvis.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
Wow, that should.

Speaker 4 (12:31):
Be here in September. We're involved in it's called em
Power out in Northampton, Mass. So that's another day treatment
Western Mass, Western Mass.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
What did I say?

Speaker 3 (12:41):
No?

Speaker 2 (12:42):
I think you were correct?

Speaker 3 (12:43):
Correct?

Speaker 2 (12:44):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's going taking them crazy.

Speaker 5 (12:46):
Y See what he does to me too, that's I
just ignore. She does every day trying to get my skin.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
He knows I'm not using it as radio.

Speaker 5 (12:55):
It's him, it's her, it's always her.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
So you have that, okay, and then you're working on
another detox.

Speaker 4 (13:07):
If all goes well by the end of the summer
in October, maybe yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Yeah, I spent I spent a lot of time in
adolescent places.

Speaker 5 (13:17):
Yeah, how did that go well?

Speaker 1 (13:20):
I mean obviously not good because I didn't like turn
my life around, but I did learn things, you know.
But it's just so important, man, It's the education is
so important, you know. I just wasn't ready what we have.

Speaker 4 (13:30):
We get a great team over there. Like, I couldn't
do it personally. I'm not wired to help you.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
You have certain people that can do that.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
Oh, these people are amazing.

Speaker 5 (13:41):
Yeah, amazing, isn't empower? Empower?

Speaker 4 (13:43):
Empower would be substance used to m M thoughts.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
And I was like, oh, okay, this is called power
of hope. It's going to be in Danvis.

Speaker 5 (13:54):
Wow, you have the best name for being owning a recovery.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Can you tell the story about why you named it
of recovery?

Speaker 2 (14:00):
I didn't my friend Matt.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
That's what I mean. Yeah, his friend said to him
he couldn't think of a name.

Speaker 5 (14:05):
Because actually last name is Powers, right, Yes, that's amazing.

Speaker 4 (14:08):
I couldn't think of a name yeah, my friend match Like, dude,
it's right here.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah, he named it. So anything I'm incorporated with now
we put it in there. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (14:16):
I love that.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
It's called branding winning that.

Speaker 5 (14:19):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
You like it?

Speaker 5 (14:20):
Yeah, I love a good brand.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
We'll keep it going just for you.

Speaker 5 (14:23):
All right, I say, m like your initial m power.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
No no, no, no, You're not that ageistical I am,
but no, we just I just.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
Didn't think of it.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
So, Maddie, So we're going to record some more day
ones today. If you've been listening to Kids Went Away
for months now, we've been featuring these day one campaigns,
basically people telling what their Day one is. We give
our own and then we have a couple of guests here.
They're going to do it today. So if people have
need help for themselves or a loved one, what can
they do? Who can they reach out to?

Speaker 4 (14:54):
They all they have to do is go online the
Power of Recovery dot org. They there's a phone number
on the I don't know it off the top of
my head.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Powercofrecovery dot Org is all you need to know. Yeah,
And one of my favorite things about Maddie and his
whole team is one of the things they always say
is if they can't help you.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
Oh, no matter who, they will find someone that we.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
Will definitely help you. We can help you get into detalks,
we can help you get into colenseeling. Anything you need,
somebody on that phone will help you.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
I remember when I when I was towards the end
of my using, I was homeless, and I was kind
of you know, around Boston Common area and it was
getting called out and I would I would sleep basically
on the Common right, and so I'd have to call
at seven am to the Detox to get a free
care bed because I didn't have insurance right and I
had gone to all the hospitals and like the suicide route,

(15:41):
so I was kind of I was flagged. So every
morning I have to call at seven, so i'd have
to I'd have to get up or like i'd be
up six am. I'd go to downtown crossing. I'd stem
for a quarter or fifty cents to the payphone to call,
and i'd call at seven, just hoping for a bed,
and they'd be like, no free care beds. Call back
tomorrow to do another day of it.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
I know, that whole cycle, you know, horrible.

Speaker 5 (16:03):
That's what it's tough when you guys want to get
help and like there's just not enough places to go.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yeah. Yeah, well these just didn't exist. I mean it
really didn't. It didn't.

Speaker 4 (16:12):
I got clean the same way he did, the same
same time. But if if you just call power of recovery,
you'll you can be into a place that day.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
There's that many.

Speaker 5 (16:23):
But back then when you guys got clean, there wasn't
that many.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
No.

Speaker 5 (16:27):
No, he has to do with like the stigma with drugs,
and now it's changed so much in the last like
twenty years.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
It's got a lot. We got a long way to go, yeah,
but it's got a lot better. Definitely a lot.

Speaker 5 (16:37):
You know. I was saying, I have a couple of
uh you know, family members that have addiction issues, and
one of them passed away from a heroin over It
was like, this is like ten years ago, and the
other few that have me maybe like cocaine or like
pills or whatever, like you kind of are like, oh,
like you're just like dits together, but like like on.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
That was like, oh he's heroin.

Speaker 5 (16:58):
Like it was like you kind of looked at them
a little bit differently, like what your addictions were and
You're like, well, why can't you just But it's like
addiction doesn't matter if it's you know, heroin or pills
or whatever, like, it still consumes you the same way.

Speaker 4 (17:10):
Right, that's when you get into twelve step fellows.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
And like my sponsor always says, if you ate too
many twinkies today and you feel different, welcome.

Speaker 5 (17:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (17:19):
It don't matter what you hooked on or it doesn't matter.
It's the disease of addiction.

Speaker 1 (17:25):
Yeah, Whinnie, you know me so well, yes, right, you've
only know me.

Speaker 5 (17:30):
Have the most addictive person speakers since I've met him,
he's had seven other it's non like thing addictions like now,
because he doesn't use drugs as outlet. It's sneakers, it's
meal prepping, it's working out, it's okay.

Speaker 4 (17:43):
But do you see what you just said, non threatening addictions.
If he lets that get out of control, h he'll
be using eventually. Yeah, so stop, no, no, no, no, it's
not he's handling all his other business.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Yeah, there's always going to be something.

Speaker 4 (17:57):
But if he doesn't have any home base, any twelve
step fellowship, any any work on himself, eventually you will
go back to your drug of choice.

Speaker 5 (18:06):
This guy's all or nothing. He's either eaten right now.
But then the evere time where he goes off his
Meil plan and like let's order food, like let's get this,
and he gets.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Like you know, all people really it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
Yeah, but no, like Mattie said, like I have a sponsor.
I've had a sponsor. I sponsor men, I'm involved in
a program you know that has never changed.

Speaker 4 (18:25):
You if you take that stuff away from him, Yeah,
he's in big trouble.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
My sponsor got clean with his sponsor. Okay, they've been clean.
They're called dinosaurs. They've been clean over thirty years, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (18:35):
Yeah, but they're still working it.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Still working it, yeah, still working it.

Speaker 4 (18:38):
And people say, oh yeah, clear, Like I'm clean fifteen
and a half years. Yeah, you still go to all
them things like yeah, dude, yeah, what gave me my life.

Speaker 5 (18:48):
It's kind of like if you get in shape and
then you stop going to the gym.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
Yeah exactly. There's two main reasons why I still go
to meetings. Number one, most important is to stay clean.
Number two is to deal with her every day. Oh
shut up, that's therapy. You do therapy for that all
a little bit.

Speaker 5 (19:03):
Yeah, I might drive him a drink, but you know.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Yeah, but he doesn't hopefully not winn.

Speaker 5 (19:07):
He know I'm saying like if he did drink, I
would drive him to drink like that, Like that's howling
with me. I cannot deal with that, Okay.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
I cannot them for a quarter?

Speaker 5 (19:19):
Yeah, no, I can't deal with.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
There were times when I first got into radio or
I would literally be sitting here looking around at everybody
that I work with and think, these motherfuckers have no idea.
I would rob every single person. Like Bill Costs is
the biggest fucking vic you could ever meet.

Speaker 5 (19:35):
You know, he's gonna get money from. I have all
his passwords, I know all his like his you know,
date of birth and all.

Speaker 4 (19:42):
That I could easily. I'm gonna call you from a ladam.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
Yeah yeah, yeah, took quick Bill Billy Costs that story.

Speaker 5 (19:48):
But that was what got ye. That was your karma,
by the way I said that to him, that was
your carma. Probably people you fucked over.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
It's a lot of karma.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
I was gonna buy my house and and the day
before closing they told me I needed ten grand to
pay off this thing or whatever. So I was all
sad and they needed the ten grand I didn't have it.
So I called so I'm like, what are we gonna do?
And my wife's crying and she's like, can you call Billy?
And I'm like, I don't. I don't like to ask
him for money. So I was like, fuck, So I
called him. It's twelve like noon. Picks up the phone
and he's eating right, and he goes, what's up? And
so I go into this whole speech. I never asked

(20:17):
for money. This isn't what I do. I tell him
the whole story. I'm like, listen, I just need it
for like two days after we sell my other house,
I'll pay you back. And he goes and now he's
chewing right, and he's like, that's what you called for?
You all worked up about?

Speaker 5 (20:29):
Well?

Speaker 1 (20:29):
What do you want to cash or a check?

Speaker 2 (20:31):
I go cash, goes, I'll bring it tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
I gotta go.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
I'm watching a show.

Speaker 5 (20:37):
That was it.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
I thought to myself. I was like, man, if I
was using, i'd be like, yo, I really need twenty
grand bill.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
That would never happen.

Speaker 5 (20:45):
The thing is Billy has let that happen to him
with other people. Yeah, like He had other people in
his life that they need money for something, and they lied,
and he gave him all this money and they.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
Just never under anybody money you expect to get back.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
You right, it's a good piece of advice, good piece.

Speaker 5 (20:59):
I brought twenty bucks.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Oh god, you know what I came in here with.
What no money.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
He's smart, he's new, he's coming to see you. All right, Maddie,
thank you so much. Power off recovery dot Org. We're
gonna we're gonna record some day ones right now, which
you will hear.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
On the radio.

Speaker 5 (21:13):
I love hearing them.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Yeah, we got to go, so leave us a talk
back and you can respond. Maybe I'll let Maddie hear
them tomorrow. I'll send them to

Speaker 5 (21:19):
Them, Okay, cool, all right, Bye bye