February 13, 2024 • 12 mins
In this special BONUS episode Jay & Jim talk to Brandon at Propstore about all of the Superman & Supergirl props in the March 2024 auction. This is a video podcast available on facebook, and Capedwonder.com but if you can only listen we describe everything pretty swell for you.
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(00:00):
Now the Cape Wonder Superman Podcast withJay Cowers and Jim Bauers on Iinheart Radio.
Welcome to a special edition of theCape Wonder Superman Podcast. You're seeing
this now as an exclusive. I'mJay Towers in Detroit. As always,
my co host Jim Bowers. PropStore Auction is coming up here in March.
(00:22):
This is the Entertainment Memorabilia Live Auction. Oh boy, always gets so
fired up Jay when these guys revealnew, crazy, exciting stuff, and
this one is no exception. We'vegot a really great variety of items this
time. Brandon Allinger joins us fromProp Store. Brandon, how are you
and do good? How are youguys? We're great, Brandon. Thank
(00:43):
you so much for taking the timeto spend with us to go over these
great new Superman items. Yeah,no, thanks for having me on.
I know you guys are the placefor Superman content and I'm glad that you
appreciate the catalog reveal. It's alwaysa big moment for us and we appreciate
hearing reactions, especially from people whoare passionate about the content and tracking the
market and you know, know whatis out there. It's like Christmas Eve
(01:04):
for us a couple times a yearwith you guys, Yeah, more times
because we're actually we're going to threeof these EMLA Entertainment Memorabilia live auctions per
year. So we used to justdo two, one out of the US
in the summer, one out ofthe UK and the fall. This year
we'll have three, one in March, one in June, and one in
November. First thing that we werereally interested in talking about before we get
into the Superman stuff is is thatlittle Supergirl clapper board? What can you
(01:27):
tell us about that? I loveclapperboards, and you know, they've really
become their own sort of sub nicheof collecting movie memorabilia. You know.
I think the great thing with theclapboard is just that the film title is
right there on the clapper, andyou see them in different sizes. So
this is a small clapper, whichis really intended for insart shots, you
know, so if they're getting likea shot of someone's hands, for example,
(01:49):
something that's really tight, they needa very small clapper for that purpose.
So any film is going to haveclappers in at least three different sizes,
maybe four different sizes. You know, there's a medium size up from
this, and then there's a harderversion beyond that, and sometimes a very
big version for wide screen shots likeyou know, Matte painting shots, that
type of thing. But this isthis is an insert slate, and it's
(02:09):
in pretty good condition. You cansee, you know. One of the
things I love about these that they'rehand painted. So the titles, even
though it's very clean, very stylized, that is always hand painted on there.
And the wood clappers specifically come outof the UK. So Supergirl obviously
a movie that was made in theUK. The American slates tend to be
a black plastic, sort of adry erase style board, whereas the UK
(02:31):
always used these sort of chalkboard styleslates if you like, well, I
happen to have one just like itfrom Pinewood, but yours is in much
better condition. Mine's got some ruston it. But these are eight inches
by six inches and almost a halfinch thick, and they are really beautiful.
Like you said, Brandon, Ilove these these UK versions, So
(02:53):
that is a real, real excitingpiece for any Superman super Girl fan to
own. For sure. I've neverseen one like that. Let's talk about
some of the miniatures. First ofall, The Superman miniature is from from
nineteen seventy eight. It's a specialeffects flying miniature. Tell us a little
bit about that. We've seen propStore have some of these over the years.
(03:15):
They're sometimes different sizes, sometimes differentfilms with Superman. Tell us about
this one. Yeah, I mean, for me personally, this is my
favorite thing on the table. Ilove this for me. It encapsulates the
whole film in just one shot.So the small Superman model totally custom made,
and I think probably by Derek Mettings, the visual effects supervisor who did
all the model work on the films. You know, it is sculpted out
(03:36):
of something and then it's cast ina resinor of fiberglass material and the top
of it is hollow, and sowe'll see if we can get a shot
of the back of it. Here'sgot the red cape with of course the
classic S emblem and if you lookin there, I think it's a very
thin fiberglass. And as I understandit, some of these had a small
motor with a mechanism in it thatwould give the cape some movement. And
(04:00):
so you know, in that eraof visual effects, everything was blue screen,
everything was compositing, everything was modelwork. And you know, if
you want to get Superman to flyacross the frame of film, one of
the ways you can do it iswith a small model maniature. So you're
correct. We have seen two orthree of these out there in the marketplace.
This is actually one that we soldbefore. We did sell it a
number of years ago, and nowthe collector that bought it is turning it
(04:23):
back over. But for me,as you know, if you're a Superman
fan, that is a great piece. I mean, it just tells the
whole story of the film in onesmall, containable package. You know.
I love the pose also, Ilove the flying pose, and I think
I've seen people display these a coupleof different ways. You know, you
could also take it and choose todisplay it upright. But for me,
(04:44):
this this flying pose like that reallyworks. It's a gorgeous piece and it
looks like it's about ten inches long. Of course it comes with that stand,
right it does. Yeah, thestand's been custom made to hold it.
It's got a bent piece of wirethat's engaging the open cavity of the
back there to hold it. Lookingat the piece now, I can see
there's a hole drilled in his lefthand, so probably at some point during
production they inserted a wire in theleft hand and they were supporting it that
(05:09):
way. There may also be anothermounting point underneath it. But just a
great piece and actually a reasonably goodlikeness of Christopher Reed there on the pace
in very small size. I mean, the height of that head is,
you know, less than one inch, so to get that kind of detail
in is pretty impressive work. Tellus about the lowest Lane Margot kidder piece.
(05:30):
Yeah, so this one is interesting. This I suspect has been put
together out of found items, meaningI think the body itself is probably a
Barbie doll because it looks to me, like just looking at the back of
the legs here, that looks likea classic kind of vinyl Barbie toy.
I'm sure they changed out the headand did a custom sculpt for the head,
just like they did for the smallSuperman that we just talked about,
(05:53):
And this one, of course isfrom Superman two, when I believe she's
taken up to the Fortress of Solitude, right. Yeah, and it's possible
that the hands are customs sculpted aswell, probably because they needed a certain
pose that the Barbie didn't have whereasthe legs are, you know, they're
just in quite a neutral pose,and I think the stock barbie worked just
fine for that. And you stayedin the catalog that this was for or
(06:16):
used during the Richard Lester years ofSuperman two, as opposed to the Christopher
Reeve miniature that was used during theRichard Donner years. And this one also
appears to be maybe a couple ofinches longer or larger than the Superman.
Yeah, this is definitely a biggerscale. This is, you know,
at least fifty percent larger than theSuperman. I can actually hold them together
(06:38):
in the same shot, and wecould take a look here, so side
by side you can see the scaledifference, you know. There. I
think this is for two totally differentshots and sequences, not intended to be
filmed together. The other thing that'sinteresting about the lowest lane as I'm looking
at it, is there is somewire. So we've got a small piece
of wire here coming out of thesleeve. There's another piece of wire here
(07:00):
the wist, and it looks tome like those have blue paint on them,
which probably relates to the blue screen. So I'm sure that's how they
were being supported at some point intime when they were shooting them as elements
for visual effects. Let's talk aboutthat Lenny Luther costume from Superman four and
I ask about it. Just hadan opportunity to speak with John Cryer about
his new show a couple of weeksago, and you know, he still
has very fond memories of Superman four. And when you talk about some wild
(07:24):
costumes, some wild wardrobe in amovie, John Cryer probably had the most.
Yeah. I mean, it's certainlya statement. This costume, you're
not going to miss it. Andfunny enough, you know, one of
the things that I noticed in lookingat this is it still has its Burman's
and Nathan's tag in it, whichis a real sort of standard of costume
collecting. Right So here in theUS, the big costume house is called
(07:46):
the Western Costume Company. Over inthe UK, especially at that time in
the nineteen eighties, it was Burman'sand Nathan's, which you know, previous
to that was two different costume shots, one Burman's one Nathan's. Today is
Angels, but it's it's sort ofthe staple London costume house. They did
all the big films. You knowthe Christopher Reeve costumes also have Burmans and
(08:07):
Nathan's tags in them, as I'msure you know. And and you know,
many of the films the Ara likeStar Wars, Indiana Jones, all
the costumes were done out of there. So I love the Burman tags that
are in it. And this mayhave even come out of some kind of
Burman's sale at some point in thepast, because you can just imagine them
going through the costume house and saying, well, that's too distinct. I
don't know if that's going to rentagain. I think we can sell that
one on, you know, right, And typically the Burmans and Nathan's tags
(08:31):
had the actor's name, the titleof the film, and sometimes a number
or a code, a goal that'sright, that's right. Yeah, And
the numbers can be interesting because theyare sequential. I think they will relate
to purchase orders. But you cankind of date garments based on the numbers
that are in there. You know, in this case, you know the
year of the film. You don'thave to, but sometimes a piece comes
(08:52):
up that just has an actor's nameand a number and you can use that
number to place it on the timeline. Right, let's talk about newspaper.
So Superman newspapers always a staple ofSuperman collecting. You know, they did
make a number of different papers forthe different films. I believe the ones
that we have here today are allfrom Superman three and all relate to the
Evil Superman. But you know,the really interesting thing is how they had
(09:16):
to produce them in different languages forall the different territories that the film was
going to be released. So Ibelieve we have two separate lots. I
think the one in a frame hereis one lot in the auction, and
then the ones that you're seeing flaton the table loose are a separate lot.
And these are all going to besold on day three of the auction,
which is the no reserve day.So everything on day three starts at
(09:37):
an opening bid, a low openingbid, and there is no reserve,
meaning whatever the bidding takes it too, that's what it's going to sell for.
And the lots on day three arealso they're only online, meaning they're
not part of the printed catalog.They are just available to be seen in
the online catalog which releases this Friday. Well, that newspaper in the frame,
I think may be the rarest ofthe bunch. So yeah, I
(09:58):
can't remember off the top of myhead with that we've handled one exactly like
this. Certainly you see that imageryon a number of the different papers from
Superman three, but you may beright this, Yeah, this may well
be the first time that we've offeredthis one. Also, you also have
some frame Daily Planet stationary. Yeah, And I think the great thing about
this is if you're a fan,you immediately know what it is. Yeah,
(10:18):
subtle, but at the same time, it's very heavily branded and the
price point is very accessible, soyou know, if you're thinking about getting
started and collecting original film memorabilia,if you aren't quite sure what to go
for, obviously, something like theSuperman miniature is going to be slightly more
expensive than some of these other itemson the table if you want a starter
piece that is quite accessible. TheDaily Planet stationary is great. That Daily
(10:41):
Planet stationary you can see on manyof the desks throughout the Daily Planet sets.
I love it, Jay, You'vegot some Daily Planet stationary, don't
you. I had a couple ofsheets and I printed one thing on a
piece of Daily Planet actual stationary,which I know is probably some Cardinal Sin.
But what do you have that funin life? Brandon, tell everybody
(11:01):
who's watching if they want to,if they want to be a part of
this auction, you have to register, but it's easy to do and you
can do it all through the website. Right. Yeah, everything's at propstore
dot com. So the auction takesplace over three days. As I say,
date number three is the no reserveday. Days one and two are
going to be in the printed auctioncatalog and also the PDF catalog. The
pdf catalog you can get right nowif you register, and everything will be
(11:24):
available online this Friday. Well,you can always count on prop Store to
package and ship everything so beautifully.I have to say that you guys do
a fantastic job with that and communicationis wonderful. So Jay and I have
purchased or bid on things over theyears at the auction and you can always
be sure that these guys are topnotch. I mean, I love what
(11:48):
you guys on earth. It's justfantastic. I'm very kind of you.
Thank you for saying that. It'sgreat seeing you and thank you so much.
And we'll get everybody to the propstores website. We'll be watching the
big auction in March and we'll talkto you soon. Thank you again,
great, thanks guys, thanks forhaving me. Thanks so much, Brandon
Now the Cape Wonder Superman Podcast withJay Cowers and Jim Bauers on Iinheart Radio.
Welcome to a special edition of theCape Wonder Superman Podcast. You're seeing
this now as an exclusive. I'mJay Towers in Detroit. As always,
my co host Jim Bowers. PropStore Auction is coming up here in March.
(00:22):
This is the Entertainment Memorabilia Live Auction. Oh boy, always gets so
fired up Jay when these guys revealnew, crazy, exciting stuff, and
this one is no exception. We'vegot a really great variety of items this
time. Brandon Allinger joins us fromProp Store. Brandon, how are you
and do good? How are youguys? We're great, Brandon. Thank
(00:43):
you so much for taking the timeto spend with us to go over these
great new Superman items. Yeah,no, thanks for having me on.
I know you guys are the placefor Superman content and I'm glad that you
appreciate the catalog reveal. It's alwaysa big moment for us and we appreciate
hearing reactions, especially from people whoare passionate about the content and tracking the
market and you know, know whatis out there. It's like Christmas Eve
(01:04):
for us a couple times a yearwith you guys, Yeah, more times
because we're actually we're going to threeof these EMLA Entertainment Memorabilia live auctions per
year. So we used to justdo two, one out of the US
in the summer, one out ofthe UK and the fall. This year
we'll have three, one in March, one in June, and one in
November. First thing that we werereally interested in talking about before we get
into the Superman stuff is is thatlittle Supergirl clapper board? What can you
(01:27):
tell us about that? I loveclapperboards, and you know, they've really
become their own sort of sub nicheof collecting movie memorabilia. You know.
I think the great thing with theclapboard is just that the film title is
right there on the clapper, andyou see them in different sizes. So
this is a small clapper, whichis really intended for insart shots, you
know, so if they're getting likea shot of someone's hands, for example,
(01:49):
something that's really tight, they needa very small clapper for that purpose.
So any film is going to haveclappers in at least three different sizes,
maybe four different sizes. You know, there's a medium size up from
this, and then there's a harderversion beyond that, and sometimes a very
big version for wide screen shots likeyou know, Matte painting shots, that
type of thing. But this isthis is an insert slate, and it's
(02:09):
in pretty good condition. You cansee, you know. One of the
things I love about these that they'rehand painted. So the titles, even
though it's very clean, very stylized, that is always hand painted on there.
And the wood clappers specifically come outof the UK. So Supergirl obviously
a movie that was made in theUK. The American slates tend to be
a black plastic, sort of adry erase style board, whereas the UK
(02:31):
always used these sort of chalkboard styleslates if you like, well, I
happen to have one just like itfrom Pinewood, but yours is in much
better condition. Mine's got some ruston it. But these are eight inches
by six inches and almost a halfinch thick, and they are really beautiful.
Like you said, Brandon, Ilove these these UK versions, So
(02:53):
that is a real, real excitingpiece for any Superman super Girl fan to
own. For sure. I've neverseen one like that. Let's talk about
some of the miniatures. First ofall, The Superman miniature is from from
nineteen seventy eight. It's a specialeffects flying miniature. Tell us a little
bit about that. We've seen propStore have some of these over the years.
(03:15):
They're sometimes different sizes, sometimes differentfilms with Superman. Tell us about
this one. Yeah, I mean, for me personally, this is my
favorite thing on the table. Ilove this for me. It encapsulates the
whole film in just one shot.So the small Superman model totally custom made,
and I think probably by Derek Mettings, the visual effects supervisor who did
all the model work on the films. You know, it is sculpted out
(03:36):
of something and then it's cast ina resinor of fiberglass material and the top
of it is hollow, and sowe'll see if we can get a shot
of the back of it. Here'sgot the red cape with of course the
classic S emblem and if you lookin there, I think it's a very
thin fiberglass. And as I understandit, some of these had a small
motor with a mechanism in it thatwould give the cape some movement. And
(04:00):
so you know, in that eraof visual effects, everything was blue screen,
everything was compositing, everything was modelwork. And you know, if
you want to get Superman to flyacross the frame of film, one of
the ways you can do it iswith a small model maniature. So you're
correct. We have seen two orthree of these out there in the marketplace.
This is actually one that we soldbefore. We did sell it a
number of years ago, and nowthe collector that bought it is turning it
(04:23):
back over. But for me,as you know, if you're a Superman
fan, that is a great piece. I mean, it just tells the
whole story of the film in onesmall, containable package. You know.
I love the pose also, Ilove the flying pose, and I think
I've seen people display these a coupleof different ways. You know, you
could also take it and choose todisplay it upright. But for me,
(04:44):
this this flying pose like that reallyworks. It's a gorgeous piece and it
looks like it's about ten inches long. Of course it comes with that stand,
right it does. Yeah, thestand's been custom made to hold it.
It's got a bent piece of wirethat's engaging the open cavity of the
back there to hold it. Lookingat the piece now, I can see
there's a hole drilled in his lefthand, so probably at some point during
production they inserted a wire in theleft hand and they were supporting it that
(05:09):
way. There may also be anothermounting point underneath it. But just a
great piece and actually a reasonably goodlikeness of Christopher Reed there on the pace
in very small size. I mean, the height of that head is,
you know, less than one inch, so to get that kind of detail
in is pretty impressive work. Tellus about the lowest Lane Margot kidder piece.
(05:30):
Yeah, so this one is interesting. This I suspect has been put
together out of found items, meaningI think the body itself is probably a
Barbie doll because it looks to me, like just looking at the back of
the legs here, that looks likea classic kind of vinyl Barbie toy.
I'm sure they changed out the headand did a custom sculpt for the head,
just like they did for the smallSuperman that we just talked about,
(05:53):
And this one, of course isfrom Superman two, when I believe she's
taken up to the Fortress of Solitude, right. Yeah, and it's possible
that the hands are customs sculpted aswell, probably because they needed a certain
pose that the Barbie didn't have whereasthe legs are, you know, they're
just in quite a neutral pose,and I think the stock barbie worked just
fine for that. And you stayedin the catalog that this was for or
(06:16):
used during the Richard Lester years ofSuperman two, as opposed to the Christopher
Reeve miniature that was used during theRichard Donner years. And this one also
appears to be maybe a couple ofinches longer or larger than the Superman.
Yeah, this is definitely a biggerscale. This is, you know,
at least fifty percent larger than theSuperman. I can actually hold them together
(06:38):
in the same shot, and wecould take a look here, so side
by side you can see the scaledifference, you know. There. I
think this is for two totally differentshots and sequences, not intended to be
filmed together. The other thing that'sinteresting about the lowest lane as I'm looking
at it, is there is somewire. So we've got a small piece
of wire here coming out of thesleeve. There's another piece of wire here
(07:00):
the wist, and it looks tome like those have blue paint on them,
which probably relates to the blue screen. So I'm sure that's how they
were being supported at some point intime when they were shooting them as elements
for visual effects. Let's talk aboutthat Lenny Luther costume from Superman four and
I ask about it. Just hadan opportunity to speak with John Cryer about
his new show a couple of weeksago, and you know, he still
has very fond memories of Superman four. And when you talk about some wild
(07:24):
costumes, some wild wardrobe in amovie, John Cryer probably had the most.
Yeah. I mean, it's certainlya statement. This costume, you're
not going to miss it. Andfunny enough, you know, one of
the things that I noticed in lookingat this is it still has its Burman's
and Nathan's tag in it, whichis a real sort of standard of costume
collecting. Right So here in theUS, the big costume house is called
(07:46):
the Western Costume Company. Over inthe UK, especially at that time in
the nineteen eighties, it was Burman'sand Nathan's, which you know, previous
to that was two different costume shots, one Burman's one Nathan's. Today is
Angels, but it's it's sort ofthe staple London costume house. They did
all the big films. You knowthe Christopher Reeve costumes also have Burmans and
(08:07):
Nathan's tags in them, as I'msure you know. And and you know,
many of the films the Ara likeStar Wars, Indiana Jones, all
the costumes were done out of there. So I love the Burman tags that
are in it. And this mayhave even come out of some kind of
Burman's sale at some point in thepast, because you can just imagine them
going through the costume house and saying, well, that's too distinct. I
don't know if that's going to rentagain. I think we can sell that
one on, you know, right, And typically the Burmans and Nathan's tags
(08:31):
had the actor's name, the titleof the film, and sometimes a number
or a code, a goal that'sright, that's right. Yeah, And
the numbers can be interesting because theyare sequential. I think they will relate
to purchase orders. But you cankind of date garments based on the numbers
that are in there. You know, in this case, you know the
year of the film. You don'thave to, but sometimes a piece comes
(08:52):
up that just has an actor's nameand a number and you can use that
number to place it on the timeline. Right, let's talk about newspaper.
So Superman newspapers always a staple ofSuperman collecting. You know, they did
make a number of different papers forthe different films. I believe the ones
that we have here today are allfrom Superman three and all relate to the
Evil Superman. But you know,the really interesting thing is how they had
(09:16):
to produce them in different languages forall the different territories that the film was
going to be released. So Ibelieve we have two separate lots. I
think the one in a frame hereis one lot in the auction, and
then the ones that you're seeing flaton the table loose are a separate lot.
And these are all going to besold on day three of the auction,
which is the no reserve day.So everything on day three starts at
(09:37):
an opening bid, a low openingbid, and there is no reserve,
meaning whatever the bidding takes it too, that's what it's going to sell for.
And the lots on day three arealso they're only online, meaning they're
not part of the printed catalog.They are just available to be seen in
the online catalog which releases this Friday. Well, that newspaper in the frame,
I think may be the rarest ofthe bunch. So yeah, I
(09:58):
can't remember off the top of myhead with that we've handled one exactly like
this. Certainly you see that imageryon a number of the different papers from
Superman three, but you may beright this, Yeah, this may well
be the first time that we've offeredthis one. Also, you also have
some frame Daily Planet stationary. Yeah, And I think the great thing about
this is if you're a fan,you immediately know what it is. Yeah,
(10:18):
subtle, but at the same time, it's very heavily branded and the
price point is very accessible, soyou know, if you're thinking about getting
started and collecting original film memorabilia,if you aren't quite sure what to go
for, obviously, something like theSuperman miniature is going to be slightly more
expensive than some of these other itemson the table if you want a starter
piece that is quite accessible. TheDaily Planet stationary is great. That Daily
(10:41):
Planet stationary you can see on manyof the desks throughout the Daily Planet sets.
I love it, Jay, You'vegot some Daily Planet stationary, don't
you. I had a couple ofsheets and I printed one thing on a
piece of Daily Planet actual stationary,which I know is probably some Cardinal Sin.
But what do you have that funin life? Brandon, tell everybody
(11:01):
who's watching if they want to,if they want to be a part of
this auction, you have to register, but it's easy to do and you
can do it all through the website. Right. Yeah, everything's at propstore
dot com. So the auction takesplace over three days. As I say,
date number three is the no reserveday. Days one and two are
going to be in the printed auctioncatalog and also the PDF catalog. The
pdf catalog you can get right nowif you register, and everything will be
(11:24):
available online this Friday. Well,you can always count on prop Store to
package and ship everything so beautifully.I have to say that you guys do
a fantastic job with that and communicationis wonderful. So Jay and I have
purchased or bid on things over theyears at the auction and you can always
be sure that these guys are topnotch. I mean, I love what
(11:48):
you guys on earth. It's justfantastic. I'm very kind of you.
Thank you for saying that. It'sgreat seeing you and thank you so much.
And we'll get everybody to the propstores website. We'll be watching the
big auction in March and we'll talkto you soon. Thank you again,
great, thanks guys, thanks forhaving me. Thanks so much, Brandon
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