May 7, 2025 • 28 mins
Therapist Jen joins the podcast to walk Mike through Meaghan leaving the show, plus does a thearapy session for our podcast listeners.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
I have a problem, Michael, and I am so sorry
because you left the show. Is that your problem? And
enjoy of being single with uh?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
You get to quit a podcast randomly responsibilities.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
This is the Slightly Messy Show with Mike and Meghan.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
State means a messy shows, messy Mike and Megan.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
It's a slightly messy show and Mike and Mike.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
That's it. No Meghan at all. And I'm not changing
the intro. I'm just gonna keep addressing it every single time.
Because Megan Mick decided that she was no longer doing
the Slightly Mystery Show or radio in general, and you
know what, all things decide like, I'm very obviously, very
happy for her. She seems to be going on this
beautiful new journey. But you know what, you know what,
(00:52):
the Slightly Messy Show continues. I got the I got
the show in the divorce. Okay, I get to keep
the show in divorce and she can go live her
do best life. And that is totally fine. However, it
is gonna change a little bit. So if you are
following the Slightly Messy Show on on the iHeartRadio app,
it still will be on the more Mojoe podcast. You
(01:13):
can still follow me on Instagram at on air Mike
if you ever want to be a part of the show.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
That's what we're gonna start doing now.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
We are going to continue it and I'm just gonna
bring on guests and it's gonna be not like an interview.
It's just gonna be hanging out, just having fun, nothing
specific right off the bat, and then we'll kind of
mold it into something else. But I figured friends from TikTok,
friends from life, you know, maybe we just have I
(01:41):
if I have a celebrity guest and we're like, it
doesn't fit in the morning show, Let's do it on
the podcast. Let's just make this, you know, just hanging
out really, and then it'll mold into it to whatever
it's gonna be next. And I couldn't tell you what
that is going to be as of right now. But
what I do know is I did have some feelings
and I felt like they should be addressed. I feel
(02:01):
like they should be discussed, and I thought I got
it out pretty well in the last podcast that we
did with with Megan. However, I had a friend of
the module in the Morning Show and friend in general
reach out.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Her name is Jennifer. Jennifer. Hello, Hi, how are you?
Speaker 3 (02:20):
I'm good?
Speaker 1 (02:20):
And Jennifer, what do you do for a living?
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I am a therapist. You are a thing today, but
today i'm your emotional support.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Jen Where are you a therapist at?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
In Michigan in the Royal Local area, I have an
LLC and I go through the relationship center.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Okay, okay, And I thought this was a I mean,
this is this is a breakup, right, this is this
is a weird thing about radio is like what people
don't know is there could be any point in your
life and all of a sudden, they're like, all right,
we're the person decides to change a career or we're
making a move, or this could happen any point.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
It's just part of the business, and you kind of
roll with it.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
If you've been doing it a while, you kind of
just go, Okay, well, I guess we got to adjust
and move on to the next thing, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Well, I think the messy so just got messier.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
It's no longer slightly, it's just messy. And you reached
out to me with this idea to come on, and
I thought it was genius. And why do you think
that a therapist or yourself coming on was the move here.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Well, first of all, I think everyone wants to know
how you're doing, so you have to have someone on
here to ask how you're doing with the breakup. And
also I wanted to tell you that if you had
had me on sooner, I could have maybe prevented the breakup.
Oh do you think Megan thinks you broke up with
her first by going with Alim?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Oh my goodness, look at you already making me dive
into feelings and things that I don't want to talk about. Yeah,
well no, let me folk, Well, let me get comfany
let me sit back in this chair. We'll turn this
into a therapy session, all right. So first question is
do I think that she thought I had never truly
thought about that? If I'm being honest, I did. I
(04:15):
did when when making the move, and I will say
this with making the move to the New Morning Show,
I did talk to her first, so she did get
a heads up yeah, and a you know I you know,
I asked her opinion, her thoughts on everything, and so
she kind of knew. But she was very a very
good friend and probably responded the way I would have
(04:36):
responded if she had asked me the same question, which was, uh,
you know, it was very.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Neutral.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
She didn't have a whether she thought it was a
good idea or a bad idea when I when I
brought it up to her, which is which is a
great response, because you know, she doesn't want to sway
me one way or the other.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Not that it would have, but she doesn't want to
in that position. I never thought about it. I don't
think it.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
I mean I was still on the show a little bit,
and I still went out there a couple of times,
and when she would come into town here for Mojo.
You know, I still do things behind the scenes on
the radio station that they're on here in West Michigan,
so I would have seen her at some point. We
still talked, but I never thought about it. I genuinely
never thought about that. That's a great question. I wonder
(05:22):
what she would.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Say to that.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Yeah, well, initially I just thought it was just like
a funny thing to bring up. But yeah, looking at it, right,
you broke the seal, You broke the uh uh, you
went one way and then and I'm sure it actually
inspired her to be able to have the confidence to follow,
you know, her next you know, step for goals, Like
(05:45):
she said, she felt like she had done radio, she
reached the planta she wanted to. Yeah, and she was
looking for something else. And we were talking about confidence
and you know what that looked like and confidence versus
Khaki and you know football lately with a surduer and
the draft and all that. Yeah, Yeah, there's been a
(06:08):
lot to talk about about that. Do you think confidence
or cocky looks like someone who's drunk like the Khaki behavior?
Do you have you ever thought about it? Do you
think it looks like a drunk person?
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yeah, I guess it could.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I never really, I never really thought about it because
I don't want if you if you've never listened to
the show, here's a little a little insight about me.
I don't come off as look very confident dude, So
I don't necessarily think about that. But when I look
at other people, I think there is a level of
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there's a distinction between cockiness and confidence, and I think
unfortunately it's it's it's comes off really bad if you
have really too much confidence. And I don't think that's
necessarily with everybody. But like I don't get me wrong,
I'm confident, you know what I mean, because I wouldn't
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be able to do certain things if I wasn't I
didn't have a little bit of confidence. But Kaki is arrogance, cocky,
is entitled. And I think you mentioned Shade or Sanders.
That's where I think people kind of fell off with him.
Is like, yeah, he's talented, and he's really good and
he's kind of fun to watch, But like, I don't
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want to root for somebody who feels like they're entitled
to something just because of A who their dad was
or or b they they know they have a level
of talent, so they are they acted a certain way.
You could be confident and still be a good person.
You could be confident and still be humble. I think
humble is a better value or value, better trait to
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have than Kakis.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Well, yeah, being humble, right, that's what keeps you know,
the confidence kind of in check, like in a container.
But Kaki, it is acting drunk, right, like you're just
growing up wearing what you know, not like really kind
of tone desk, like not thinking about your audience. You know,
all these people that are rooting you on that don't
have money. You're showing up with all this blame, which
(08:13):
is against fine, you're missing you know, you're you're not
going to practices or tryout. You're not really like giving interviews,
you know, one hundred percent, and you know, so when
that happens, yeah, people, right, it just feels reckless. It feels,
you know, people, there's no room for anyone else, There's
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no room. But I think at the end of the day,
he's going to be obviously all right. And I found
it so interesting that when he played Madden, he only
plays the Cleveland Brown's team. He said that did he manifest?
You know? I think at the end of the day,
it's interesting he got the team that he played on Madden. Yeah,
(08:55):
and I think I'm a Madden I looked it up
and I think I said the quarterback was not good,
but I was really good on the on the Madden game.
And so I think that's where he's trying to get
to be better. So I thought, oh my gosh, the
universe got brilliant. They put him in a position and
did he manifest this? I don't know, but he was
(09:16):
on fire. His dad had a magnifying glass, you know,
and then it just went up and blamed. Basically so
I think he needed a cooling off period. But I
wanted to say, you know, having me on today. It
is May is mental health Awareness a month, so this
also is uh yeah, a little a nod to that,
(09:39):
and yeah, and I want to tell you this has
been a passion project for me.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
What's that?
Speaker 3 (09:47):
So when COVID happened, I have young adults and I
really try to inspire them. You know, you can say
as parents like don't you know, just go after what
you want. Don't think how it's going to happen, you know,
just do it. Just and so you know, I've been caught.
So after COVID, I made a point, I wanted to
think of something just really out there that spoke to
(10:08):
my heart that I was really passionate about. And I thought,
oh my god, I would love to be, you know,
on the radio. I'd love to do something with radio one.
And I just started calling in, right, start calling in.
I met you at an event. I was going to
put a name at the face and to anyone else
that can look like, oh, this person is thirsty, this
person is just trying so hard. But the whole point
(10:29):
of this like thank you for making my dream come true.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Oh, stop it. You're helping me. You're you're talking me
through through my feelings.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Here, you're talking me through because at the end of
the day, like I have to, this is such a
weird job where you have to back to kind of
what we were talking about. You have to have a
level of confidence, right. But if you're too arrogant, if
you're too if you're too cocky, if you if you're
not humble in in because I've met some very very
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talent to people that are some of the most humble.
Mojo is one of the most humble human beings in
the entire world. And that is the guy I model
the rest of my career after h and who I
want to be like. But if you if you get
too cocky in this, it's nobody wants to work with you,
nobody wants to be around you.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
It it's gonna event no room.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
There's no room for people, right, the containers full, it's
full of yourself. There's no room for anyone else. For confidence,
you're inviting people into your container, you're asking for help,
you're admitting mistakes. There's room for people, there's realm to grow.
If you're copy there's just no room.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Yeah, and so I so seeing that I've you know,
there's certain people I you know, have you know, just
havn't talked to in the business because of that reason.
Megan was not one of those people. Megan was one
of those people who I genuinely loved. She was incredibly talented. Uh.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
The podcast was a way to work towards both.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Of our next steps, and it at one point was
discussed that her and I might do or would do
a show together, you know, like an on air show together,
and it moved to you know, she then got the
job in Detroit, and so then I thought the next
step for me was that's where I was going next.
And then this opportunity presented itself and it was a
(12:17):
huge leap in in my career and and I got
to tell you it was one of the best decisions
I've ever made. It was the hardest, one of the hardest,
but it was one of the best as far as
my career goes, because it catapulted me to a level
and a position that I was that I was, That's
what we were doing the podcast for, That's what this
was all in the beginning was for. And then it
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just became like we were having fun and we could
have these long form conversations that you can't necessarily have
on the air.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
And you know, we were.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Able to talk to each other every week, you know,
like we were before when I was on the show.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
And so go ahead, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
I want to tell you because you had mentioned, you know,
confidence and not being a most confident guy. But your
superpower is your authenticity. And I don't know if you
heard this, but the highest okay, what do you think
the highest vibe Well, I get I guess I gave
it away. People would guess the highest vibration of energy
would be loved. But authenticity actually is measured to be higher,
(13:19):
and that is actually your superpower. And yeah, yeah, that's
your strength, This is your this is why you're so successful.
People can feel how genuine you are and you have
an open heart and and that is honestly what what
brings success and what makes people want to You're like
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a magnet to people because of your authenticity. So I
don't know if you know that your superpower.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
I didn't know that. Thank you that that that that
means a lot.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Like even if even if I don't work through all
these feelings of this big change, I'm not going to
have you hype me up every single week and tell
me how great I am, because I love that. And
the weird you know, the weird thing is about this
business is it's like it's like, how do I explain it?
It's not like a person dying, because obviously that's a
(14:12):
little more intense, but it's there's a level of that
where you have to be able to if it's happened
to you so many times or you lost so many people, Yes,
it hurts and it's hard to get through. But unfortunately,
after it happens so many times and whatever way it happens,
whether they leave on their own or something changes, you
don't become numb to it because there's still a level
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of that was your person in your life. But you
have to be able and learn how to and I'm
still not there yet, adapt and continue on professionally, I
guess is the best way to put it and put
that stuff aside.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
And it is tough. It is tough, but you're right
working through it.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Like you have to go through it. You can go
around it, you can't avoid it. You just have to
steal the ceilings and then right like look for new
things better like excite you and be open yet to
what's coming. Again, because of your authenticity, you're going to
bring in like good things are coming, because that takes
constant work, just like confidence. You know, confidence is not
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a feeling. People think it's a feeling, but confidence is
a willingness, a willingness to try something. And then you
get more confident with more competence. And so again, your
willingness and your authenticity. I mean again, it's together together.
It's really a recipe for success. And Megan's going to
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be successful too. You know, we were talking about drunk,
being drunk and being hockey. Oh my gosh. I don't
know if you remember my Tony Tony Trevana's story which
is sor Oh. Well, when I met you, it was
at the Saint Patrick's Day party, so we had been there.
You have to get there early in the morning, yes,
(15:58):
you know. Just listening to you guys, and Tony Trubode
looks to me, he looks exactly like someone I dated
in high school and I broke his heart. And I
broke his heart like twice.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Aw I know heart.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Oh well, it wasn't his silks. I hear people going Tony,
and of course he's standing right in front of me.
I've had some green beers, and I'm like Tony, and
I say the last name of my friend, you know,
like my the person I knew, and he's like no,
and I'm like, don't pretend, don't pretend it's not you.
I am convinced. I'm literally convinced it is him. And
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so someone like people are like, no, this is not him,
and I'm like, all right. So later I found the
picture of the person and I showed him and he
did admit like he could see it. Otherwise I just
looked like some crazy drunk person. At least I was
able to connect the dots. But that was the day
I met you.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
He uh, he is one of the greatest human beings
in the entire world and one of the greatest bosses
in the entire world.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
And I that's.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Gotta be a unique situation because if you don't if
he doesn't look anything like the person that you have
just shown him in like a good or bad way, yeah,
he's gonna take it some kind of way, right, because
like the person looks way off.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
I think he did say the other person. Maybe it
was a little because the person is not at all
like large or what he might have looked a little puffy,
but I am funny, and I mean, I haven't seen
this person since college, you know, so I know I'm
in high school, F'm in college. So I'm comparing, you know,
Tony Torbado to this person that I last saw. Sure
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he did see the resemblance, but I think he did
say I think it's a little heavier. It was pretty funny.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
That's hilarious. Jess therapist, Jess who.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
I would like to have you on at least a
couple uh much as you do want to come on,
but like I'm gonna obviously rotate through guests here, I
want to bring some new people on, but i'd like
to have you on again because my wife genuinely thought
when we were doing I said, hey, I'm gonna have
a therapist on the first podcast, and she got like excited.
She goes, oh my gosh, I am so proud of
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you and.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
I and I was like, well they oh yeah. I
was like yeah, and She's like, yeah, I think that's
a good idea.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
I think you should. You should, you know, get some
stuff out there. And I said, well, hold on, this
is this isn't like real deep feelings. We're just talking
about like it's we're talking about, you know, the changes
with the show. She goes, Oh, I thought you were
doing like you were gonna address some of your therapy stuff.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Therapy.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yeah, that's what That's what.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
That's what I was gonna say, is I I would
love to have you on again and we'll dive into
like therapy therapy stuff like like from my personal life,
and you could give me, uh some some solid advice
because I'm sure I do, I know, I do Nia
I joke, I think Joe. Laughter and humor is how
I cope with a lot of things. But this is
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this is one of those situations where what would be
the best advice from you to somebody who, I mean,
their best, one of their best you know, coworker friends
has decided to quit the business entirely. We will never
unless she comes over here to do something, we'll never
work together again. How do you what is the best?
(19:26):
Is humor an okay way to cope with things? Or
should I be seeking other things?
Speaker 3 (19:31):
No? Right, humor is always a good thing. But I
think it's really what you're telling yourself, like you know,
I'm when when you go to bed and just how
you look at it in general, your narrative around it.
And I think if you were to and I really
believe this to be true, and what I tell myself
is this isn't happening to me. This is happening for me,
and it's also happening for maggot, and so that's so cute.
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It's so I mean, when you really believe like things
are happening for you, if opens up so many doors
and our you know, we don't see through our eyes,
like what we take in goes through our you know,
our belief system, our brain, and then our eyes actually
see it. And so our beliefs are so important. It's
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literally because we our brain filters out what we see
and think, and our beliefs are so important. So beliefs
guide everything. That's why when people say, oh, you look
for signs, Okay, that's just because you're looking for them. Well, yeah,
because if I believe that if I'm on the right path,
I'll see things that resonate with me, okay, and then
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I see it. It's like okay, yeah, well that's because
that's my belief system. But if you believe like everyone's
out to get you or you know you're going to
be next, then that's actually what you are going to
see signs of that. Then you're going to act accordingly.
You're going to procrastinate, you're going to be insecure. So
beliefs are huge. So really believe that things are happening
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for you. And when people come in, they're like, I
lost my job, and then we really look into it.
Down the line, they end up being so, they find
a passion, they end up in a job, they start
a job, they do something they never would have thought
to do. So it's so important to really know what
you're like, to really be intentional with what you're telling yourself.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Okay, okay, so let me ask you a question then
as well, because I don't have a You mentioned something
in our initial conversation. You're like, we should talk about
imposter syndrome, and I was like, I can relate to
an extent because when I first probably started with Mojo,
I maybe felt a little bit of that, and I
think part of my reaction to things we're around that.
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But today I don't feel that. What was the reason
you wanted to discuss that? Do you feel that I
feel did From an outsider's perspective.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Do you look at me and you think that that's
what I'm thinking?
Speaker 3 (21:59):
No, So initially I thought, okay, we could do imposter syndrome,
like like a real take on it. But also, ah,
you being alone, you know, because it's like I said,
a little mess here.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Sure.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
What people don't realize is imposter syndrome is not a diagnosis,
and you could have it for a day, you could
have it, and we all have it so with you know,
when I started as a therapist, and when you go
to you know, workshops and stuff, they'll actually say this
person walked in and I thought, oh my god, they
need a therapist. Oh wait, that's me, you know. So right,
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that's exactly what you want to hear. But you know,
we're all guilty of it. You know, whenever I have
to call you know, when I call them the radio
and Moto doesn't pick me, or I keep you know,
and I'm doing this for my children. I am showing
them that, you know what, you know, it feels like
I'm getting knocked down, but that's not me. That's on
me to reframe it, and I am showing them you
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just keep going, you know, go for what you want,
don't think about how you're going to get there all
the time. Just keep just keep following your passion. Put
yourself out there, you know, be you know, be vulnerable,
be vulnerable. And I'm telling you, when you do that,
you do allow opportunities to come in. But imposter syndrome. Yeah,
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we all, I mean, we all have it, you know what. Again,
some people have it for years, some people have it
for you know, just when they start a new job.
And I was just talking to a client. Oh sorry,
I'm sorry, no, no, go ahead ahead. I was just
talking to a client and they were staying they felt
like they have imposter syndrome. And then I said do
you And they said, well, I have it, you know,
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at work, or I have it at home, but I
don't have it the other, you know, one or the other.
And I said, do you realize that confidence is the
willingness to put yourself out to try something? So sometimes
and I said, oh, you asked, oh, I know what
it was. They asked a lot of questions at work,
and I said, that's actually by you asking more questions,
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you will be more confident and willing to try or
do the thing. And so we think that confidence is
just this like end and you know you're just going
to have this thing, and imposter syndrome is like on
the opposite end, But no, they go hand in hand
because you can steel insecure or second guess yourself or
wonder why you're there. But if you ask the questions,
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if you put yourself out there, you will become more confident,
more looking to try.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
So absolutely good would that be the best way to
if people have it so like? For example, I would
say when I first started with Mojo, I probably had it,
and I didn't.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
I didn't address it at all.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
I just basically I had a little ment to be
if you will, had a little mental breakdown at some point,
and then luckily I had good people on the show
and around me to kind of help me and guide
me through it.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
But I didn't know what I was dealing with. I
had no idea what it was.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
And then once I got through it, I was I
was better for it, but I didn't again know what
I was doing or why it was happening, or why
I felt the way it was. Now today, if that
feeling even comes on a little, I just I just
move forward and don't even think about it. But what
would you say because we got to jump off here
in a second, but this will be the final words.
What would you say would be the best advice for
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somebody who is trying to work through any sort of
imposter syndrome.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Well, it's the narrative. It's the thing you're telling yourself
around the thing. So a lot of times people have
two different narratives, like the one like, oh, yeah, I
worked hard to be here, and the other one's like
what you know, what if they find out I'm not X,
Y and Z. You want to have one one that
is just solid. So when those those self you know,
when the self defeating thoughts come in, you have your
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one solid thing that you tell yourself that is your
own truth. Because when you're hungry and tired and then
you're going to lean to the one that's emotional and
the one that's like more imposter syndrome. And then when
you're refreshed and you know you just did something, you're
going to lean towards the one like I got this
so understanding it. You know your truth. So when your
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emotional side comes out, you can redirect it. You're like, no,
I already thought about this, and you can.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Have that one narrative, great advice.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Jen the Therapist, thank you so much for coming on
the first podcast without Megan. We've worked through some of
some of my thoughts as Megan is no longer here.
But we also tied into some stuff that I really
think is interesting and anybody who can relate, uh, would
definitely take something away from this if they want to
reach out to you personally or maybe book a session
with you.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
What's the best way to connect with you?
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Okay, I should I give them my phone?
Speaker 1 (26:37):
I guess No, you don't have to give a phone number.
Why don't you do? Maybe Instagram? Is it?
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Okay? Okay? I know. Email me at the Thag dot
therapist dot Jen at gmail dot com.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Perfect.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Thank you so much. Let's do this again soon. We'll
address some real, some real stuff in my in my
personal life.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
How does that sound?
Speaker 3 (26:58):
I love it?
Speaker 1 (26:58):
All right, talk to you soon. All right there.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
It is very first slightly messy show messier edition. Jen
first guest on. We're gonna have a different guest each week.
I also have come up with this idea. Some of
the people in TikTok Live, some of the friends that
I've made through TikTok Live, I'd like to have them
on Pink Fairy Vibes. I know you're on here all
the time. I'd love to have you on one of these. Crystal,
(27:25):
you got to be on one of these. Miranda, you
batman underscore nerd. Miranda is one of the ogs. She
has got to come on again. She's already done this once.
And my daughter Cecily, who you actually here in the
beginning of this when we first started the podcast, she
only to play this for it?
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Where did that go? Who was God? You had to
have been seven at the time.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
She wants to I mentioned this to some of the
social media followers at on air mic that she wants
to get into radio, and we thought it was sales first,
but that was just what her school hold on. Slightly
messy show with Mike and Meghan means mess that's her.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Right there, Messy Mike and Megan.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
She begs me daily to do videos with her. She
begs me to come into the studio. So I'm gonna
do occasionally. She's gonna be part of the podcast and
she'll be the guest host. That will happen more often
than than than not. And I'm gonna give her like
if she really wants to do it, we're gonna practice
with her and well, by the time she's old enough
(28:32):
to decide if she wants to do it, show we'll see.
But yeah, there his first episode. I don't know how
to end it now, Like what do I do? Alright, bye, follow.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Me follow the slightly messy show.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
One.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
I g at slightly messy show
I have a problem, Michael, and I am so sorry
because you left the show. Is that your problem? And
enjoy of being single with uh?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
You get to quit a podcast randomly responsibilities.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
This is the Slightly Messy Show with Mike and Meghan.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
State means a messy shows, messy Mike and Megan.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
It's a slightly messy show and Mike and Mike.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
That's it. No Meghan at all. And I'm not changing
the intro. I'm just gonna keep addressing it every single time.
Because Megan Mick decided that she was no longer doing
the Slightly Mystery Show or radio in general, and you
know what, all things decide like, I'm very obviously, very
happy for her. She seems to be going on this
beautiful new journey. But you know what, you know what,
(00:52):
the Slightly Messy Show continues. I got the I got
the show in the divorce. Okay, I get to keep
the show in divorce and she can go live her
do best life. And that is totally fine. However, it
is gonna change a little bit. So if you are
following the Slightly Messy Show on on the iHeartRadio app,
it still will be on the more Mojoe podcast. You
(01:13):
can still follow me on Instagram at on air Mike
if you ever want to be a part of the show.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
That's what we're gonna start doing now.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
We are going to continue it and I'm just gonna
bring on guests and it's gonna be not like an interview.
It's just gonna be hanging out, just having fun, nothing
specific right off the bat, and then we'll kind of
mold it into something else. But I figured friends from TikTok,
friends from life, you know, maybe we just have I
(01:41):
if I have a celebrity guest and we're like, it
doesn't fit in the morning show, Let's do it on
the podcast. Let's just make this, you know, just hanging
out really, and then it'll mold into it to whatever
it's gonna be next. And I couldn't tell you what
that is going to be as of right now. But
what I do know is I did have some feelings
and I felt like they should be addressed. I feel
(02:01):
like they should be discussed, and I thought I got
it out pretty well in the last podcast that we
did with with Megan. However, I had a friend of
the module in the Morning Show and friend in general
reach out.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Her name is Jennifer. Jennifer. Hello, Hi, how are you?
Speaker 3 (02:20):
I'm good?
Speaker 1 (02:20):
And Jennifer, what do you do for a living?
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I am a therapist. You are a thing today, but
today i'm your emotional support.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Jen Where are you a therapist at?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
In Michigan in the Royal Local area, I have an
LLC and I go through the relationship center.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Okay, okay, And I thought this was a I mean,
this is this is a breakup, right, this is this
is a weird thing about radio is like what people
don't know is there could be any point in your
life and all of a sudden, they're like, all right,
we're the person decides to change a career or we're
making a move, or this could happen any point.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
It's just part of the business, and you kind of
roll with it.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
If you've been doing it a while, you kind of
just go, Okay, well, I guess we got to adjust
and move on to the next thing, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Well, I think the messy so just got messier.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
It's no longer slightly, it's just messy. And you reached
out to me with this idea to come on, and
I thought it was genius. And why do you think
that a therapist or yourself coming on was the move here.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Well, first of all, I think everyone wants to know
how you're doing, so you have to have someone on
here to ask how you're doing with the breakup. And
also I wanted to tell you that if you had
had me on sooner, I could have maybe prevented the breakup.
Oh do you think Megan thinks you broke up with
her first by going with Alim?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Oh my goodness, look at you already making me dive
into feelings and things that I don't want to talk about. Yeah,
well no, let me folk, Well, let me get comfany
let me sit back in this chair. We'll turn this
into a therapy session, all right. So first question is
do I think that she thought I had never truly
thought about that? If I'm being honest, I did. I
(04:15):
did when when making the move, and I will say
this with making the move to the New Morning Show,
I did talk to her first, so she did get
a heads up yeah, and a you know I you know,
I asked her opinion, her thoughts on everything, and so
she kind of knew. But she was very a very
good friend and probably responded the way I would have
(04:36):
responded if she had asked me the same question, which was, uh,
you know, it was very.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Neutral.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
She didn't have a whether she thought it was a
good idea or a bad idea when I when I
brought it up to her, which is which is a
great response, because you know, she doesn't want to sway
me one way or the other.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Not that it would have, but she doesn't want to
in that position. I never thought about it. I don't
think it.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
I mean I was still on the show a little bit,
and I still went out there a couple of times,
and when she would come into town here for Mojo.
You know, I still do things behind the scenes on
the radio station that they're on here in West Michigan,
so I would have seen her at some point. We
still talked, but I never thought about it. I genuinely
never thought about that. That's a great question. I wonder
(05:22):
what she would.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Say to that.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Yeah, well, initially I just thought it was just like
a funny thing to bring up. But yeah, looking at it, right,
you broke the seal, You broke the uh uh, you
went one way and then and I'm sure it actually
inspired her to be able to have the confidence to follow,
you know, her next you know, step for goals, Like
(05:45):
she said, she felt like she had done radio, she
reached the planta she wanted to. Yeah, and she was
looking for something else. And we were talking about confidence
and you know what that looked like and confidence versus
Khaki and you know football lately with a surduer and
the draft and all that. Yeah, Yeah, there's been a
(06:08):
lot to talk about about that. Do you think confidence
or cocky looks like someone who's drunk like the Khaki behavior?
Do you have you ever thought about it? Do you
think it looks like a drunk person?
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yeah, I guess it could.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I never really, I never really thought about it because
I don't want if you if you've never listened to
the show, here's a little a little insight about me.
I don't come off as look very confident dude, So
I don't necessarily think about that. But when I look
at other people, I think there is a level of
(06:44):
there's a distinction between cockiness and confidence, and I think
unfortunately it's it's it's comes off really bad if you
have really too much confidence. And I don't think that's
necessarily with everybody. But like I don't get me wrong,
I'm confident, you know what I mean, because I wouldn't
(07:05):
be able to do certain things if I wasn't I
didn't have a little bit of confidence. But Kaki is arrogance, cocky,
is entitled. And I think you mentioned Shade or Sanders.
That's where I think people kind of fell off with him.
Is like, yeah, he's talented, and he's really good and
he's kind of fun to watch, But like, I don't
(07:26):
want to root for somebody who feels like they're entitled
to something just because of A who their dad was
or or b they they know they have a level
of talent, so they are they acted a certain way.
You could be confident and still be a good person.
You could be confident and still be humble. I think
humble is a better value or value, better trait to
(07:50):
have than Kakis.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Well, yeah, being humble, right, that's what keeps you know,
the confidence kind of in check, like in a container.
But Kaki, it is acting drunk, right, like you're just
growing up wearing what you know, not like really kind
of tone desk, like not thinking about your audience. You know,
all these people that are rooting you on that don't
have money. You're showing up with all this blame, which
(08:13):
is against fine, you're missing you know, you're you're not
going to practices or tryout. You're not really like giving interviews,
you know, one hundred percent, and you know, so when
that happens, yeah, people, right, it just feels reckless. It feels,
you know, people, there's no room for anyone else, There's
(08:33):
no room. But I think at the end of the day,
he's going to be obviously all right. And I found
it so interesting that when he played Madden, he only
plays the Cleveland Brown's team. He said that did he manifest?
You know? I think at the end of the day,
it's interesting he got the team that he played on Madden. Yeah,
(08:55):
and I think I'm a Madden I looked it up
and I think I said the quarterback was not good,
but I was really good on the on the Madden game.
And so I think that's where he's trying to get
to be better. So I thought, oh my gosh, the
universe got brilliant. They put him in a position and
did he manifest this? I don't know, but he was
(09:16):
on fire. His dad had a magnifying glass, you know,
and then it just went up and blamed. Basically so
I think he needed a cooling off period. But I
wanted to say, you know, having me on today. It
is May is mental health Awareness a month, so this
also is uh yeah, a little a nod to that,
(09:39):
and yeah, and I want to tell you this has
been a passion project for me.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
What's that?
Speaker 3 (09:47):
So when COVID happened, I have young adults and I
really try to inspire them. You know, you can say
as parents like don't you know, just go after what
you want. Don't think how it's going to happen, you know,
just do it. Just and so you know, I've been caught.
So after COVID, I made a point, I wanted to
think of something just really out there that spoke to
(10:08):
my heart that I was really passionate about. And I thought,
oh my god, I would love to be, you know,
on the radio. I'd love to do something with radio one.
And I just started calling in, right, start calling in.
I met you at an event. I was going to
put a name at the face and to anyone else
that can look like, oh, this person is thirsty, this
person is just trying so hard. But the whole point
(10:29):
of this like thank you for making my dream come true.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Oh, stop it. You're helping me. You're you're talking me
through through my feelings.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Here, you're talking me through because at the end of
the day, like I have to, this is such a
weird job where you have to back to kind of
what we were talking about. You have to have a
level of confidence, right. But if you're too arrogant, if
you're too if you're too cocky, if you if you're
not humble in in because I've met some very very
(10:59):
talent to people that are some of the most humble.
Mojo is one of the most humble human beings in
the entire world. And that is the guy I model
the rest of my career after h and who I
want to be like. But if you if you get
too cocky in this, it's nobody wants to work with you,
nobody wants to be around you.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
It it's gonna event no room.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
There's no room for people, right, the containers full, it's
full of yourself. There's no room for anyone else. For confidence,
you're inviting people into your container, you're asking for help,
you're admitting mistakes. There's room for people, there's realm to grow.
If you're copy there's just no room.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Yeah, and so I so seeing that I've you know,
there's certain people I you know, have you know, just
havn't talked to in the business because of that reason.
Megan was not one of those people. Megan was one
of those people who I genuinely loved. She was incredibly talented. Uh.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
The podcast was a way to work towards both.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Of our next steps, and it at one point was
discussed that her and I might do or would do
a show together, you know, like an on air show together,
and it moved to you know, she then got the
job in Detroit, and so then I thought the next
step for me was that's where I was going next.
And then this opportunity presented itself and it was a
(12:17):
huge leap in in my career and and I got
to tell you it was one of the best decisions
I've ever made. It was the hardest, one of the hardest,
but it was one of the best as far as
my career goes, because it catapulted me to a level
and a position that I was that I was, That's
what we were doing the podcast for, That's what this
was all in the beginning was for. And then it
(12:40):
just became like we were having fun and we could
have these long form conversations that you can't necessarily have
on the air.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
And you know, we were.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Able to talk to each other every week, you know,
like we were before when I was on the show.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
And so go ahead, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
I want to tell you because you had mentioned, you know,
confidence and not being a most confident guy. But your
superpower is your authenticity. And I don't know if you
heard this, but the highest okay, what do you think
the highest vibe Well, I get I guess I gave
it away. People would guess the highest vibration of energy
would be loved. But authenticity actually is measured to be higher,
(13:19):
and that is actually your superpower. And yeah, yeah, that's
your strength, This is your this is why you're so successful.
People can feel how genuine you are and you have
an open heart and and that is honestly what what
brings success and what makes people want to You're like
(13:42):
a magnet to people because of your authenticity. So I
don't know if you know that your superpower.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
I didn't know that. Thank you that that that that
means a lot.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Like even if even if I don't work through all
these feelings of this big change, I'm not going to
have you hype me up every single week and tell
me how great I am, because I love that. And
the weird you know, the weird thing is about this
business is it's like it's like, how do I explain it?
It's not like a person dying, because obviously that's a
(14:12):
little more intense, but it's there's a level of that
where you have to be able to if it's happened
to you so many times or you lost so many people, Yes,
it hurts and it's hard to get through. But unfortunately,
after it happens so many times and whatever way it happens,
whether they leave on their own or something changes, you
don't become numb to it because there's still a level
(14:34):
of that was your person in your life. But you
have to be able and learn how to and I'm
still not there yet, adapt and continue on professionally, I
guess is the best way to put it and put
that stuff aside.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
And it is tough. It is tough, but you're right
working through it.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Like you have to go through it. You can go
around it, you can't avoid it. You just have to
steal the ceilings and then right like look for new
things better like excite you and be open yet to
what's coming. Again, because of your authenticity, you're going to
bring in like good things are coming, because that takes
constant work, just like confidence. You know, confidence is not
(15:14):
a feeling. People think it's a feeling, but confidence is
a willingness, a willingness to try something. And then you
get more confident with more competence. And so again, your
willingness and your authenticity. I mean again, it's together together.
It's really a recipe for success. And Megan's going to
(15:36):
be successful too. You know, we were talking about drunk,
being drunk and being hockey. Oh my gosh. I don't
know if you remember my Tony Tony Trevana's story which
is sor Oh. Well, when I met you, it was
at the Saint Patrick's Day party, so we had been there.
You have to get there early in the morning, yes,
(15:58):
you know. Just listening to you guys, and Tony Trubode
looks to me, he looks exactly like someone I dated
in high school and I broke his heart. And I
broke his heart like twice.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Aw I know heart.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Oh well, it wasn't his silks. I hear people going Tony,
and of course he's standing right in front of me.
I've had some green beers, and I'm like Tony, and
I say the last name of my friend, you know,
like my the person I knew, and he's like no,
and I'm like, don't pretend, don't pretend it's not you.
I am convinced. I'm literally convinced it is him. And
(16:36):
so someone like people are like, no, this is not him,
and I'm like, all right. So later I found the
picture of the person and I showed him and he
did admit like he could see it. Otherwise I just
looked like some crazy drunk person. At least I was
able to connect the dots. But that was the day
I met you.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
He uh, he is one of the greatest human beings
in the entire world and one of the greatest bosses
in the entire world.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
And I that's.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Gotta be a unique situation because if you don't if
he doesn't look anything like the person that you have
just shown him in like a good or bad way, yeah,
he's gonna take it some kind of way, right, because
like the person looks way off.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
I think he did say the other person. Maybe it
was a little because the person is not at all
like large or what he might have looked a little puffy,
but I am funny, and I mean, I haven't seen
this person since college, you know, so I know I'm
in high school, F'm in college. So I'm comparing, you know,
Tony Torbado to this person that I last saw. Sure
(17:46):
he did see the resemblance, but I think he did
say I think it's a little heavier. It was pretty funny.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
That's hilarious. Jess therapist, Jess who.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
I would like to have you on at least a
couple uh much as you do want to come on,
but like I'm gonna obviously rotate through guests here, I
want to bring some new people on, but i'd like
to have you on again because my wife genuinely thought
when we were doing I said, hey, I'm gonna have
a therapist on the first podcast, and she got like excited.
She goes, oh my gosh, I am so proud of
(18:16):
you and.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
I and I was like, well they oh yeah. I
was like yeah, and She's like, yeah, I think that's
a good idea.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
I think you should. You should, you know, get some
stuff out there. And I said, well, hold on, this
is this isn't like real deep feelings. We're just talking
about like it's we're talking about, you know, the changes
with the show. She goes, Oh, I thought you were
doing like you were gonna address some of your therapy stuff.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Therapy.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yeah, that's what That's what.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
That's what I was gonna say, is I I would
love to have you on again and we'll dive into
like therapy therapy stuff like like from my personal life,
and you could give me, uh some some solid advice
because I'm sure I do, I know, I do Nia
I joke, I think Joe. Laughter and humor is how
I cope with a lot of things. But this is
(19:06):
this is one of those situations where what would be
the best advice from you to somebody who, I mean,
their best, one of their best you know, coworker friends
has decided to quit the business entirely. We will never
unless she comes over here to do something, we'll never
work together again. How do you what is the best?
(19:26):
Is humor an okay way to cope with things? Or
should I be seeking other things?
Speaker 3 (19:31):
No? Right, humor is always a good thing. But I
think it's really what you're telling yourself, like you know,
I'm when when you go to bed and just how
you look at it in general, your narrative around it.
And I think if you were to and I really
believe this to be true, and what I tell myself
is this isn't happening to me. This is happening for me,
and it's also happening for maggot, and so that's so cute.
(19:54):
It's so I mean, when you really believe like things
are happening for you, if opens up so many doors
and our you know, we don't see through our eyes,
like what we take in goes through our you know,
our belief system, our brain, and then our eyes actually
see it. And so our beliefs are so important. It's
(20:17):
literally because we our brain filters out what we see
and think, and our beliefs are so important. So beliefs
guide everything. That's why when people say, oh, you look
for signs, Okay, that's just because you're looking for them. Well, yeah,
because if I believe that if I'm on the right path,
I'll see things that resonate with me, okay, and then
(20:41):
I see it. It's like okay, yeah, well that's because
that's my belief system. But if you believe like everyone's
out to get you or you know you're going to
be next, then that's actually what you are going to
see signs of that. Then you're going to act accordingly.
You're going to procrastinate, you're going to be insecure. So
beliefs are huge. So really believe that things are happening
(21:02):
for you. And when people come in, they're like, I
lost my job, and then we really look into it.
Down the line, they end up being so, they find
a passion, they end up in a job, they start
a job, they do something they never would have thought
to do. So it's so important to really know what
you're like, to really be intentional with what you're telling yourself.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Okay, okay, so let me ask you a question then
as well, because I don't have a You mentioned something
in our initial conversation. You're like, we should talk about
imposter syndrome, and I was like, I can relate to
an extent because when I first probably started with Mojo,
I maybe felt a little bit of that, and I
think part of my reaction to things we're around that.
(21:46):
But today I don't feel that. What was the reason
you wanted to discuss that? Do you feel that I
feel did From an outsider's perspective.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Do you look at me and you think that that's
what I'm thinking?
Speaker 3 (21:59):
No, So initially I thought, okay, we could do imposter syndrome,
like like a real take on it. But also, ah,
you being alone, you know, because it's like I said,
a little mess here.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Sure.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
What people don't realize is imposter syndrome is not a diagnosis,
and you could have it for a day, you could
have it, and we all have it so with you know,
when I started as a therapist, and when you go
to you know, workshops and stuff, they'll actually say this
person walked in and I thought, oh my god, they
need a therapist. Oh wait, that's me, you know. So right,
(22:30):
that's exactly what you want to hear. But you know,
we're all guilty of it. You know, whenever I have
to call you know, when I call them the radio
and Moto doesn't pick me, or I keep you know,
and I'm doing this for my children. I am showing
them that, you know what, you know, it feels like
I'm getting knocked down, but that's not me. That's on
me to reframe it, and I am showing them you
(22:51):
just keep going, you know, go for what you want,
don't think about how you're going to get there all
the time. Just keep just keep following your passion. Put
yourself out there, you know, be you know, be vulnerable,
be vulnerable. And I'm telling you, when you do that,
you do allow opportunities to come in. But imposter syndrome. Yeah,
(23:11):
we all, I mean, we all have it, you know what. Again,
some people have it for years, some people have it
for you know, just when they start a new job.
And I was just talking to a client. Oh sorry,
I'm sorry, no, no, go ahead ahead. I was just
talking to a client and they were staying they felt
like they have imposter syndrome. And then I said do
you And they said, well, I have it, you know,
(23:34):
at work, or I have it at home, but I
don't have it the other, you know, one or the other.
And I said, do you realize that confidence is the
willingness to put yourself out to try something? So sometimes
and I said, oh, you asked, oh, I know what
it was. They asked a lot of questions at work,
and I said, that's actually by you asking more questions,
(23:57):
you will be more confident and willing to try or
do the thing. And so we think that confidence is
just this like end and you know you're just going
to have this thing, and imposter syndrome is like on
the opposite end, But no, they go hand in hand
because you can steel insecure or second guess yourself or
wonder why you're there. But if you ask the questions,
(24:19):
if you put yourself out there, you will become more confident,
more looking to try.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
So absolutely good would that be the best way to
if people have it so like? For example, I would
say when I first started with Mojo, I probably had it,
and I didn't.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
I didn't address it at all.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
I just basically I had a little ment to be
if you will, had a little mental breakdown at some point,
and then luckily I had good people on the show
and around me to kind of help me and guide
me through it.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
But I didn't know what I was dealing with. I
had no idea what it was.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
And then once I got through it, I was I
was better for it, but I didn't again know what
I was doing or why it was happening, or why
I felt the way it was. Now today, if that
feeling even comes on a little, I just I just
move forward and don't even think about it. But what
would you say because we got to jump off here
in a second, but this will be the final words.
What would you say would be the best advice for
(25:13):
somebody who is trying to work through any sort of
imposter syndrome.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Well, it's the narrative. It's the thing you're telling yourself
around the thing. So a lot of times people have
two different narratives, like the one like, oh, yeah, I
worked hard to be here, and the other one's like
what you know, what if they find out I'm not X,
Y and Z. You want to have one one that
is just solid. So when those those self you know,
when the self defeating thoughts come in, you have your
(25:39):
one solid thing that you tell yourself that is your
own truth. Because when you're hungry and tired and then
you're going to lean to the one that's emotional and
the one that's like more imposter syndrome. And then when
you're refreshed and you know you just did something, you're
going to lean towards the one like I got this
so understanding it. You know your truth. So when your
(26:02):
emotional side comes out, you can redirect it. You're like, no,
I already thought about this, and you can.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Have that one narrative, great advice.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Jen the Therapist, thank you so much for coming on
the first podcast without Megan. We've worked through some of
some of my thoughts as Megan is no longer here.
But we also tied into some stuff that I really
think is interesting and anybody who can relate, uh, would
definitely take something away from this if they want to
reach out to you personally or maybe book a session
with you.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
What's the best way to connect with you?
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Okay, I should I give them my phone?
Speaker 1 (26:37):
I guess No, you don't have to give a phone number.
Why don't you do? Maybe Instagram? Is it?
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Okay? Okay? I know. Email me at the Thag dot
therapist dot Jen at gmail dot com.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Perfect.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Thank you so much. Let's do this again soon. We'll
address some real, some real stuff in my in my
personal life.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
How does that sound?
Speaker 3 (26:58):
I love it?
Speaker 1 (26:58):
All right, talk to you soon. All right there.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
It is very first slightly messy show messier edition. Jen
first guest on. We're gonna have a different guest each week.
I also have come up with this idea. Some of
the people in TikTok Live, some of the friends that
I've made through TikTok Live, I'd like to have them
on Pink Fairy Vibes. I know you're on here all
the time. I'd love to have you on one of these. Crystal,
(27:25):
you got to be on one of these. Miranda, you
batman underscore nerd. Miranda is one of the ogs. She
has got to come on again. She's already done this once.
And my daughter Cecily, who you actually here in the
beginning of this when we first started the podcast, she
only to play this for it?
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Where did that go? Who was God? You had to
have been seven at the time.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
She wants to I mentioned this to some of the
social media followers at on air mic that she wants
to get into radio, and we thought it was sales first,
but that was just what her school hold on. Slightly
messy show with Mike and Meghan means mess that's her.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Right there, Messy Mike and Megan.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
She begs me daily to do videos with her. She
begs me to come into the studio. So I'm gonna
do occasionally. She's gonna be part of the podcast and
she'll be the guest host. That will happen more often
than than than not. And I'm gonna give her like
if she really wants to do it, we're gonna practice
with her and well, by the time she's old enough
(28:32):
to decide if she wants to do it, show we'll see.
But yeah, there his first episode. I don't know how
to end it now, Like what do I do? Alright, bye, follow.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Me follow the slightly messy show.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
One.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
I g at slightly messy show
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