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February 27, 2025 • 32 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Let me know when you're ready. I bet that's a
good star.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
This is Tanner Drew and Laura's Donkey Show. Donkey Show.

Speaker 3 (00:14):
Oh h kids, Oh yeah what yeah, give it to him,
Give it to him.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
I don't know what I like more the grunt or
they disgusted what.

Speaker 4 (00:27):
I was just getting into the music.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
No, I'm feeling. I liked your grunt. I also liked
how much it gross.

Speaker 5 (00:33):
Laura, I thought you were grunting at the children.

Speaker 4 (00:36):
No, they go, yay, you go, I was.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
I hit that button honestly by like its robot right,
you're just not even thinking about it.

Speaker 4 (00:45):
I was thinking about the music.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
To me, good.

Speaker 4 (00:52):
Process.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
That ship me know when you're ready. Yeah, that's a
good star.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Right. This is Tanner Drew this Donkey Show.

Speaker 4 (01:03):
See yeah, now you bummed him out?

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Yeah, my bad.

Speaker 4 (01:11):
What's happening? It's our Donkey Show podcast?

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Oh heard online at one A five nine, to brew
dot com, the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you listen to podcasts.
I'm Tanner, Juice her lords here. Court could be joining
us here in a few minutes. I don't I don't
know where he's at.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
You never know.

Speaker 4 (01:24):
Marcus is in Mexico.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
Oh, he's on that vacation showed up.

Speaker 5 (01:29):
Did he figure out if he was going to Cancun
or Cabo? Oh?

Speaker 6 (01:32):
You know what?

Speaker 7 (01:32):
I bet he knows. Now, let me ask him. I'll
send him a text and see if he gets it.

Speaker 5 (01:36):
He probably still doesn't know.

Speaker 7 (01:38):
It's like I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:39):
I'm I'm on a beach somewhere and there's my ties.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
Yeah, do you know which city or which city or
should I say like resort?

Speaker 7 (01:50):
Just say what.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
City are you in? Do you figure it out yet?

Speaker 5 (01:53):
Do you figure out where in Mexico you are?

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Because it's just gonna be Yeah, it's the grand Casi
end though. Yeah, Like I just want to know can
in Racabo?

Speaker 7 (02:00):
Okay? All right, Well hopefully we'll see that.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
I don't know, he could be he could be already
in a bathtubful of ice with his liver missing as
far as we know.

Speaker 5 (02:08):
True.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
Yeah, but at least it's all inclusive, so he probably
didn't feel a thing.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
Yeah, it sounds pretty nice. What's going on, y'all? It's
our Donkey Show podcast. Oh and I'm I'm trying to like,
uh figure out how we can wrap this up quickly
because I want to go home and sleep.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
We're still recovering from concert night a couple of nights.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
The Lord said yesterday, the second day after is usually
the hardest. So I do feel I still feel I
still feel pretty tired yesterday, But this morning, I feel like, uh, yeah,
I feel more tired, I guess than I did yesterday,
Like just because.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
You're kind of still on a buzz from it, not
necessarily from the booze, but from not having much sleep,
and you're kind of still in cloud nine.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
Yes, I slept like pretty long last night, but man,
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
I guess I just didn't get enough of it. But
you know, tomorrow should be better.

Speaker 5 (02:53):
And my week gets better or not better busier as
it goes on. So I feel like, on top of
being tired, I'm like, I just got the list of
things I have to get done keeps getting.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
Along, and when you think about the list, I like,
it makes me more time. Yeah, Like if I know
I have to go out, like I knew I had
to go to that Deftones concert on Tuesday, so all
day long I was even extra tired just thinking about it, right,
just because all I know I have to stay up
to at least, you know, eleven or midnight. Yeah, and
just the thought of it makes me sleepy.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Got and I tomorrow, since it's Friday, I should be
just wheels up the whole day, but I have to
host an event until eleven PM. And so that's gonna
be by the time you get home, you're up. I'll
be up for twenty one.

Speaker 5 (03:34):
Hours and you're not a napper, right, No.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
So that'll be interesting. I think I'll feel like it's Friday,
Saturday morning sometime. Yeah, it'll be nice.

Speaker 4 (03:43):
Well, what's going on?

Speaker 5 (03:45):
I mean, not much, just just hanging out.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Looking at this Gene Hackman Thing's the only thing that's
got me going right now.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
Yeah, we've been following this story today and it's really
big mystery, really changing with time. If you haven't heard,
a legendary actor Gene Hackman was found dead along with
his wife. I believe they were found Was it this
morning or yesterday?

Speaker 1 (04:04):
When they were found nice last night into the morning.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
At first they were like they didn't suspect foul play
and that it looked like carbon monoxide poisoning and yeah,
it just which which was a quick call.

Speaker 5 (04:15):
Yeah, because I feel like they're like, no, foul play,
like right away, and then what Drew just told us
off the air, It's like, I mean that that sounds
like foul play to me.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
I am.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
I do think that they sometimes closed the case a
little quickly, like maybe you should there was a death involved,
even if there's a slight chance that somebody could be involved,
and it, you.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
Know, like dead animals like that. Well that's a whole
nother thing, Like why is everything that was right there
dead dead? Yeah? But there it seems to be ever
changing now because they're saying that it is suspicious after
initially reports that it was not because a door was
left a jar to the house. Now a caretaker of
the properties who found them and he actually couldn't get

(05:01):
in from where he saw them through the window. It
didn't realize the other doors were open and saw bodies
called nine one one and begged for help. But by
the time they got there, they got a search warrant
for everything. They found a lot of wild stuff. They
found her inside partially mummified.

Speaker 5 (05:19):
So that means it had been a while.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
They found pills, slewon all about her body. There was
a living dog next, so it's okay, hold on, if
she was mummified the wife. That means she died a
while ago, and Jeane just died. Now, that's what I'm thinking,
because they're saying that Jane took a fall, is what
it looks like, and died. So I don't know if

(05:42):
she died and he is because he is so old.
I just showed Laura a picture of him unrecognizable.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
Like did Yeah, I'm looking at a photo of him
right now and I can't barely recognize him.

Speaker 4 (05:53):
But did she die? And then he never tell anybody?

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Or he's senile?

Speaker 7 (05:56):
Maybe?

Speaker 4 (05:56):
And they didn't have caretakers who.

Speaker 5 (05:59):
I mean they had like well, but she wasn't that old.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
She was sixty something, right, so she was the caretaker. Yes,
so she is the she's the main person there too.

Speaker 5 (06:07):
Don't you say they found a dog dead as well,
in like in the.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
Closet and the pills all strung out everywhere. Well, that
is just they say what kind of medication it was?

Speaker 1 (06:16):
It does not say that in this news story. It's
gonna come out and I'm wondering, what is happening?

Speaker 4 (06:22):
Does that?

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Tanner? Does that sound or feel staged to you?

Speaker 5 (06:25):
Because to me, pills feel staged.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
It does like oh, they're all she dies in a
heap and pills go everywhere, Like that's not normally how
that goes.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
Yes, but also it could be a simple explanation as
he's ninety five years old, confused and scared once she
died and didn't know what.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
To do, tried and give her pills, and maybe he just.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
Maybe he took the pills himself and felt maybe you know,
he's ninety five years old.

Speaker 5 (06:47):
How long does it take for it, because like, if
he wasn't mummified, how long does it take for a
body to start the mummify case, let's find.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Out, And it says partially mummified, so I don't know
if that's just the How long does it take for
the How long did it take for the mummification process
to begin?

Speaker 3 (07:07):
It says the ancient Egyptian mummification process took seventy days.
The process began with the death of an individual and
get and.

Speaker 5 (07:16):
That's body has to be prepared in that sense, and.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Seventy days to be fully mummified. So even if like
you know, the tissue starts to turn, they can tell,
all right, this has been a while, But wouldn't it
stink terribly?

Speaker 5 (07:30):
You would think.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
So in there if she is mummified next to a
space heater, is.

Speaker 5 (07:35):
What they found it, and the space heater was on,
I'm assuming.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
I'm guessing, but at the same time, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
So we're reading about uh, Corgeous walked in, so we're
reading about Gene Hackman. It's getting pretty awkward and strange.
They first they said it wasn't suspicious. Now it sounds
pretty damned suspicious.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Yeah, it does sound did you hear about the pills
and the whole day?

Speaker 3 (07:53):
Okay, So to me is this, Could they say she
was partially mommified. Did she die and he gets scared
and not call and inform anybody that his wife had passed?

Speaker 7 (08:03):
Or I mean, it's what the dog is the weird
thing to me, like if it's dead dog? No, the
dead dog, because I mean, if there's living dogs on
the property. If if it was simply like you said.

Speaker 4 (08:13):
A couple of dogs were found outside and they were alive.

Speaker 7 (08:15):
Yeah, if he if he freaked out and you know,
killed himself or whatever, why would he kill the dog too?
Like it? That doesn't it doesn't That part doesn't make
sense to me. You know, the other parts I can
see it, but the whole murder suicide thing, but you
don't kill the dog, and especially if there's other dogs outside,
you would at least let the one dog that's inside
out with the other ones and then killer yourself.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
Just pick one dog to die with. Its weird.

Speaker 7 (08:35):
It's it is strange.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
There is no here's another side note. There is no
sign on first investigation of a gas leak or a
leak that could come.

Speaker 7 (08:46):
I think it was just because this was that was
the first thing that occurred to me as well, Like
if she's in one room, he's in another room, and
that you know, the dogs, you know with him, How
do they all die at the same time?

Speaker 5 (08:57):
You know?

Speaker 7 (08:57):
The only thing that makes sense is carbon monoxide and know.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
But I'm still hung up on this, the fact that
they didn't die at the same time.

Speaker 7 (09:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
Yeah, when this came out, I just assumed everyone just
died at the same time. But if she's partially mummified,
she's been dead for a while.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
Right, So he he could maybe he just died of
old age today or last night.

Speaker 7 (09:15):
I mean it could be. I mean he was ninety
seven years old, so he's ninety seven.

Speaker 4 (09:18):
I thought he was ninety five.

Speaker 7 (09:19):
I thought he was ninety seven whatever.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
I mean, it's all mincing numbers at that point, once
you're in your nineties. He could die.

Speaker 4 (09:25):
He doesn't even look like himself.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
Though, you know he there's a picture of him here
old and he doesn't even look like she.

Speaker 7 (09:31):
He's ninety seven. That's how you look when you're ninety seven.
I mean, you can't look the same any I mean,
he looks like a ninety seven year old.

Speaker 5 (09:39):
Like, yeah, not all ninety seven year old are created equal.
Like Drew, you're always talking about who your grandpa is
not ninety seven yet, but he's still he's still ninetys around, Okay,
so it's like he's still an fairly able bodied person.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
But like who, it's one fall away. Yeah, I mean right,
you know, Tanner's grandma would be entering that same realm.
You're one fall away from not getting up because you
don't have that kind of skill left.

Speaker 5 (10:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
Uh so, I don't know what are your like if
you're a detective and you're on the scene court, what
do you what do you think the fact that the
door was open without looking at the direct evidence?

Speaker 7 (10:13):
I mean that, yeah, I mean, there's there's so much
that we don't know, I mean, and we're relying on
new stories that it's all the stuff is being passed through.

Speaker 4 (10:20):
Well, I have some direct audio here, the nine one
one call.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Okay, before you get to that. That answered Laura's question
about why they thought it was carbon monoxide. Somebody interviewed
family members and they said they suspected, and so TMZ
grabbed that headline. And when family thinks it's carbon monoxide
when they have as much info as I do, got
it none.

Speaker 4 (10:39):
So I guess TMZ got ahold of this audio. The
nine one one call.

Speaker 7 (10:43):
Uh see the.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
Gardener caretaker is what it says. I don't know what
that means.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
Unamed caretaker of the area can be heard frantically pleading
for a dispatcher to send someone to the house.

Speaker 6 (10:55):
Here you go, how my name is the caretaker? For
a fund of each summer I've here about past ten
thousand and eight. I think we just found to a
one deceased person inside the house. But there this year
there's no address. I'm gonna wait for you at the gate.

(11:15):
I'm gonna wait for you to please send somebody's really click. Okay,
what's gonna be the address? It's gonna be down at
the gatehouse. I'll meet you over there. I'll meet them
over there. I'm the caretaker for the subdivision. I'm gonna
bring him up here.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
Okay, give me one, let me the paramedics.

Speaker 6 (11:33):
Thank you, damn damn.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
You insane.

Speaker 6 (11:44):
Yeah, I'm over at their breath, their property. There's no
address here, so I have to meet the then most
or the police whoever, down at the gatehouse. I'll bring
him up here.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
Okay, hold the division.

Speaker 6 (11:58):
I have no idea. You don't know.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
Okay, that's fine.

Speaker 6 (12:02):
It's a or a female, A female and the male probably,
I don't know. I don't know. If he's just send
somebody up real.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
Quick, they props.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
I got more of this here, but perhaps to the
nine one one operator. A lot of these guys are
usually really frustrating. He seems to like at least be listening.
A lot of times that they don't listen and they
get mad. You're screaming, sir, I'm being attacked, of course,
I'm screaming.

Speaker 7 (12:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
That's such a big compound that when what's the address?
It doesn't have one. It's basically a city.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
Come on, you go to that address and I'm assuming
it's gated, and then back they're all these beautiful homes.

Speaker 6 (12:34):
Yeah, okay, are they awake? I have no idea.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
Are they breathing?

Speaker 5 (12:42):
Oh my god, okay, no idea.

Speaker 4 (12:44):
As soon as I said they.

Speaker 6 (12:45):
Were doing but I see that she's laying down on
from the windows or alert. No, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 5 (12:56):
You will be calling nine one one.

Speaker 6 (12:58):
Are they moving at all? No, they're not moving to me.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
I know.

Speaker 7 (13:02):
They got to be like really descriptive. Good lord, it's frustrated.
I'm sure that the nine one one operator has a
list like the script. You have to check off this,
check off this, check off this.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
And as soon as I said that he was doing good.

Speaker 6 (13:20):
I'm sorry. The way right now, okay, I'll lead them
down at the gating house. They might not have the coach.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
You don't have the.

Speaker 6 (13:28):
Actually, I just have the house.

Speaker 7 (13:29):
Before the person.

Speaker 6 (13:30):
Lives, there's address. There's a reading client for.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
So and he doesn't want to say it up for
the nine one one, you know, because he does the
recorded there's a reason for that.

Speaker 7 (13:41):
We don't have an address, because of these are important people. Well,
I think it's also the way this community is laid out,
like you it's you know, rich ass the states.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Right, but it's for those people and who love that anonymity.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, well yeah, it's disappointing you. Nobody
wants to find a body and then have to make
the call, especially if you knew him or kind of
knew them and worked on their homes a relationship.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
It sucks that it's suspect at this point because Gene
Hackman was going to die of natural causes at any point,
and he is. To say he's a legend is a
strong understatement.

Speaker 4 (14:15):
I mean he is.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
He's not quite to the Mount Rushmore, but if there
was a second mountain, you might put Gene Hackman on it.

Speaker 3 (14:22):
So now the question is, if it is suspicious, what's
the reason. There's obviously a big es state. He's got
a lot of I don't know how much the guy
was worthing at least eighty million dollars, you.

Speaker 7 (14:33):
Know, I think based on the fact that she was mummified,
I think you, I think you may have been onto
something where like she died. He's I don't know what he's.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
I bet he was not mentally altogether, probably not when
she was the caretaker, and when the caretaker passed. He
probably was like ashamed, or maybe he just thought I
could handle it myself, or he.

Speaker 7 (14:50):
Just he just thought, like she's asleep or like whatever.
Like when you're when you're that age, you never know
what's going on.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
I bet you right, Like, who the hell is that?

Speaker 6 (14:57):
Yeah? Right?

Speaker 1 (14:58):
I mean, because like you get to a point where
you don't know your daughter, You don't know your mom.
You don't know I mean, not your mom because she's dead,
But I mean idea.

Speaker 5 (15:05):
If she and if she took care of him and
probably the household, if he didn't think to feed the
dog or you know, like I guess that explains why
the dog may have passed away.

Speaker 7 (15:16):
The pills is.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
Interesting to me. I'm I'm wondering about that. I wonder
if like he was aware and just decided to go.

Speaker 7 (15:24):
Well, did they say pills were around him? I know
their pills were around her. Yeah, So I think I
think she may have maybe she had a heart attack
while she was, you know, doing her morning routine.

Speaker 4 (15:31):
Partially mummified.

Speaker 5 (15:32):
I keep she's been dead for a while now.

Speaker 7 (15:37):
He didn't know what was going on.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
Don't they have Don't you have to wrap a body up?
You can't like the body doesn't mummify, just falling, just lying.

Speaker 7 (15:44):
Well, right, I.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
Think that it's when it says partially mummified. It just
means that part of her have gone into the mummification
for a very long time.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
I was just like under the compression that the body
was wrapped up and like he said that the body
was dead. And you see people do this, like this
guy's mom died. He lived with her, right, and he
wrapped her in blankets and just kept her on the
bed for three years until till he was caught.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
I mean, it's the forum, and I could be totally wrong.
I think it's what happens to the tissue. Okay, so
what they're calling so okay.

Speaker 7 (16:10):
So she's been down a very long time. He's been
kind of he's been around. So the caretaker probably never
thought to go in the house because he's there. So
she's she's all.

Speaker 4 (16:19):
He must have just got I bet you he kept
a quiet. He just didn't want people.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
And here's the other thing. This is a compound, a
twenty five million dollar home. Cameras. Can we get a
camera here? I mean, maybe you're gonna tell me there's
no perimeter camera on Gene Hackmans.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
It's possible at that age, with the house that big,
there's parts of the house he just never goes into.
My grandmother doesn't go upstairs. You know, she's a two
story home and she just doesn't. Everything she needs is
down there, down on the first floor because she can't
go upstairs.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
Maybe she died in the other part of the house
and he I don't know.

Speaker 7 (16:50):
Maybe. I mean, you know, it's it's wintertime. So if
she died when it was cold, you know, if there
was a smell, he probably threw open the window and
she kind of you know that that's why nobody smelled anything.

Speaker 4 (17:02):
There's so cool window and it would smell the body,
but it's so cold.

Speaker 5 (17:06):
No, well yeah, and I and I mean like just
somebody passing by.

Speaker 7 (17:10):
No, I mean no the street because a neighbor, though
a neighbor.

Speaker 5 (17:14):
Was of course, Now how close are the neighbors They're not.

Speaker 7 (17:18):
If these things are, if this is a huge compound,
they may not be close enough to smell anything.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
I want to know why there's this She's laying next
to a space heater, Like, is he so senile that
he's like, oh, keep her warm with this?

Speaker 7 (17:27):
Maybe?

Speaker 3 (17:28):
Maybe?

Speaker 7 (17:28):
Yeah, I mean who knows.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
Well, there's a lot of questions, There are lots and
then you know, so you don't think there was foul
play involved.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
You think this is probably just either an old man
and some mistakes were made or you.

Speaker 7 (17:40):
Know, that's that's my guess. But who again, who knows?
I mean the fact that she did not die at
the same time he did makes me think it there
was no foul play. I think it's I think she
died before he did. She was his caretaker, so how
she passed, you.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
Know, But full investigations has to happen because of what's
on the line. She's married to him for thirty some
years now, well, there might be a prenup there. She's
going to be entitled to quite a bit of his
money when he dies any minute, and then she dies.
That knocks what because he's got kids, probably twenty five
percent of the money off of eighty million dollars. I mean,

(18:15):
if anytime there's two million dollars on the line, you
have to investigate, like somebody could want you dead.

Speaker 7 (18:21):
Yeah. Well yeah, I mean the fact that this is
front page news right now, I mean, it's gonna go.
It will get investigated no matter what.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
Yeah, I feel like at this point, when you get
that much money on the line, and anytime there's a
suspicious death, just investigate it, just to make sure that
what if the slight chance someone's involved. Yeah, and do
you really want to murder her out there running around right?

Speaker 6 (18:40):
You know?

Speaker 5 (18:40):
And I guess you know with it because Drew didn't
you say they thought that he'd fallen down because of
the way his sunglasses. Yeah, so I wonder if like
he because it's weird that he would be wearing sunglasses
in the house. It's like, I'm wondering if he went outside,
came back inside, didn't close the door, and like fell down,
you know, because if the door was Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
It's explainable if a proper investigation.

Speaker 4 (19:04):
And that's that's what killed my grandmother.

Speaker 7 (19:05):
You know. She was ninety eight when she passed, and what.

Speaker 4 (19:08):
Killed her was a fall.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
They said we could perform surgery, but the surgery is
gonna be pretty brutal on it.

Speaker 7 (19:12):
So we just had to let her go.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
And it was not nuts. You battle your whole life,
you catch yourself from so many falls and eventually you
just your body can't stop it.

Speaker 7 (19:23):
Well.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
May he rest in peace, Gene Hackman. What were your
favorite Gene Your favorite Gene Hackman movie? Court because Superman, Superman,
because that's the first thing I remember seeing him as
like Alex Luthor.

Speaker 7 (19:33):
Yeah, yeah, I mean he was in some amazing movies,
but that is the one whenever I think of Gene Hackman,
that is that is the movie.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
I remember my dad making it clear to me because
I was, like, for I was too young to watch
Hoosier's and appreciate it the first time. I appreciate it
wholeheartedly now, but I remember him borderline scorning me and saying,
you don't understand this is a film. Yeah, And like
I had to get my head around that over time.
That that movie. I mean him and Hotshot what's his

(20:03):
name from from the Bad Guy from Speed, Dennis Hopper, Yeah,
both of those men in that movie. It's it's a
coming of age picture, and just so many of them.
You could just go on and on and on, all
the way up to Will Smith movie.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
Looking at a young young photo of him and he's
looking good man, good looking man.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
That old Gene Hackman, I mean got he married a
thirty year old woman when he was in his sixties.
He's got a little charm in him. Yeah, and a pocketbook.

Speaker 5 (20:29):
Man. What a real bummer for her though, too, because
you know when you marry a dude when you're thirty
three and they're sixty five.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
She's like, you got okay time after a.

Speaker 5 (20:38):
Dollar signs nah fam Nah.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
Well, the sheriff says, the search warrant has been requested
after the bodies were found, and so we'll find out soon,
you know, we'll find out soon. But right now, look, yeah,
they're showing a bunch of Gene Hackman clips in the news.

Speaker 7 (20:53):
Yeah. Yeah, they're showing the firm right now.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
Yeah, they're going to show Welcome to Mooseport with Ray Ramano.

Speaker 7 (21:00):
Oh my god. I loved him and and you know,
Enemy of the State. Yeah, you know, I mean he
didn't really turn in bad movies, or at least he
was never the bad part of the movie. He was
always oyaled ten in bombs. He was always great and everything.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
The highest with Danny DeVito.

Speaker 5 (21:18):
Oh wow, that's so strange.

Speaker 4 (21:20):
I'm so you know, curious on what happened.

Speaker 5 (21:23):
With the wife come out in the wash?

Speaker 3 (21:24):
How did the wife die? And how long was she dead?
And how long was he in that house with her?
Before he died.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
And what are the pills? Are the pills like you
remember from Dumb and Dumber. If the dude doesn't have
his pill, he has a heart attack. Yeah, like is
it something like that or is it arby?

Speaker 5 (21:40):
Maybe she was going to give him his pills and
then she something happened to her, She spilled the pills
and then he couldn't live without.

Speaker 7 (21:49):
I don't know, yeah, I mean her sixties. So yeah,
she could have been a heart attack, could have been
a stroke, could have been it could have been anything.

Speaker 5 (21:54):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (21:55):
Well, yeah, we'll keep you posted, a posted.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
We'll get some updates probably the morning, and I bet
figure out what's going on there.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
All right, Well, definitely a gum shoe moment right now,
trying to figure it out.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
So we just had too We had a We had
Gene Hackman, Uh what's her name from?

Speaker 4 (22:12):
Michelle Trackenberg, Michelle Trachtenberg.

Speaker 7 (22:14):
She passed. Yeah, that would suck too. So who's the third?

Speaker 1 (22:18):
I don't know, man, don't say Betty White.

Speaker 7 (22:21):
It's over to her again.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
They always say they die in threes, and so somebody
hopefully it's hopefully that's just maybe this is the time
we break the.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
Curse and don't run the yellow light today. If you're
somewhat famous.

Speaker 5 (22:34):
Well and if if somebody else does die, I hope
it's somebody on my death pool.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yeah, you hear about this. Laura is doing like basically
a Bingo card for dead celebrities.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
I walked in here after the bathroom, after a bathroom break,
and Drew's like, she's got a fucking death pool, And
so I immediately wrote it down because I was like,
that's gross and disgusting and morbid. Yeah, well we should
talk about it. Yeah, I just forgot to bring it
up today. We've run out of time, but I guess
we'll talk about it tomorrow in detail and the actual
live broadcast.

Speaker 4 (23:00):
You have a death But did you how.

Speaker 7 (23:02):
Long have you been in this?

Speaker 5 (23:03):
This is my first year, so it's actually a friend
of a friend started it.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
So it's a multi year thing people have done.

Speaker 5 (23:10):
Yeah, And so she told me about it. She's like,
you want to get in on this, and there's all
sorts of rules.

Speaker 7 (23:14):
Get money on it.

Speaker 5 (23:16):
Yeah, everybody puts in ten bucks. I don't know how
many people are in the.

Speaker 4 (23:19):
Pool, but basically she could tell the insensitive.

Speaker 5 (23:23):
You list I'm not wishing, just like that's true. True,
you're not wrong. But at the at the end of
the year, you go through and you list people you
think may die and you put them in a spreadsheet.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
I mean, really, this is not a bad idea because
you guarantee the news does that. They probably look at
a list of famous people, whether they're politicians or actors
or whatever, and get some sort of reel together just
by the chance that they do die, they have something
ready to go right away.

Speaker 5 (23:52):
Yeah. But then there's like there's some rules like if
they're over a certain age, you get fewer points, so
like a lot for instance, like you would get fewer
points for Gene Hackman than you would for like Lindsay Lohan,
who is on my list this year. So it's like
things like that. But yeah, and they get it. And

(24:12):
then only three people are allowed to choose the same person.
And after three people choose that person, you can't Nobody
else can pick that person. So there's all these rules.
Nobody nobody had Gene Hackman on the list, though I
love already.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
But it's just like any gambling thing. The mister obvious ones,
the old people, the people with a backup Live or
whatever it is. They're gonna get you less points if
you take a role and say that it's gonna be
Brad Pitt and that hits well by the game.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
I do think we should talk about this tomorrow. I
don't think we should have our own death pool. I
do think a radio show did this in the past
and it did not go well for them. Yeah, so
we'll skip that part, Laura, but we'll talk about it.

Speaker 5 (24:48):
I do my own free time. Oh yeah, we can
list the people on mine. Yeah, we're not sure there
will be some controversial because.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
You know, think about creative there's definitely people, you know,
like I think Mitch McConnell's probably going to go.

Speaker 5 (25:02):
I think I think he's on my list.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
Got to be low low points though it's barely here.

Speaker 7 (25:07):
He keeps falling downstairs. So yeah, someone like.

Speaker 4 (25:10):
Mitch McConnell, someone just old like that Clint the.

Speaker 5 (25:13):
Guy, uh, Clint Eastwood might be on my list. He
looks like this is this is actually terrible. But who's
the Miami Dolphins guy who keeps getting concussions to uh
got on your list? On my list? Because I was like,
he's one away.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
I mean, being like not able to read. But I
don't know about it.

Speaker 7 (25:32):
I can understand why though, because he was he got
a concussion that he's like, no, I'm gonna play in
the next game too. He would just not stop. So
that made sense.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Like while he's telling you he's fine, he has an
ear bleed. You want to get a napkin? Yeah, so
I get it.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
So that like if they're young and it's a surprising death,
you get more points? Yes, so is there like some
more but is there like a prize at the end
of this yet?

Speaker 4 (25:56):
Money ten dollars?

Speaker 1 (25:57):
So somebody gets that cashpe you as I'll go eat something,
you know nice? All food is dead.

Speaker 4 (26:03):
So what if they eat get food poisoning and die.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
And then somebody had you? Well it's dark but whatever
it makes you feel.

Speaker 4 (26:13):
What do you think or are you in a death pool?

Speaker 7 (26:15):
I think I'm on somebody's list.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
But he's low point, extremely.

Speaker 7 (26:21):
Extremely low point.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
Wow, all right, we'll keep you posted on that. What
else did we not discuss today?

Speaker 5 (26:26):
It was kind of Uh, I think we talked about everything.

Speaker 7 (26:29):
There's event there's not a lot in the news monicle.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
Winsky believes Bill Clinton should have resigned following their affair
and then she also said that, uh, she thinks Jay
Lena went.

Speaker 7 (26:40):
Too hard here.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
Jay is like no, no, no, yeah, she was a
fair game. But she says that she went too hard
and his jokes had an effect on her.

Speaker 7 (26:48):
I can see that. I mean a lot of if
you go back and look at some of jal and
his jokes, a lot of them are just like she's fat,
and which is like.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
The comedy was different than it was meaner it was.

Speaker 7 (26:59):
That that's it was some mean crap. I mean, like
she and she wasn't that fat. I mean, she wasn't fat.
She was she was, you know, a little thick.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
But I think people thought that Bill Clinton, if he
had his pick of the litter, would not have picked
Monica Lewins. That was internationally thought.

Speaker 7 (27:12):
And it's also like it's not necessarily her fault, like
like why is it? Why is it all on her?

Speaker 3 (27:18):
She really got the brunt of it, which is not fair. No,
it was a very sexist time.

Speaker 7 (27:22):
He's it was it was his fault. He's the he's
the guy in power.

Speaker 5 (27:25):
And then like she's the one getting made fun of.

Speaker 7 (27:28):
Because they were harsh.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
They were talking about the com on the dress and
then you know, you know, they her being a slut.

Speaker 7 (27:34):
They went in on her.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
And what I love about her is that she's very
honest and emotionally secure.

Speaker 7 (27:41):
After all that, she's got her ship.

Speaker 5 (27:42):
Pretty fucking funny, actually.

Speaker 7 (27:44):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
And she remember when she went on Tom Green, No
it was the Tom Green Show on MTV. It was
he did a skit and and she showed up and
it was the funniest thing in the world. It's like
a knitting sketch or something.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
Is it not weird that she just put a cum
so jacket back in her closet.

Speaker 7 (27:59):
I can understand why, because the.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
President's for this reason, I'm going to keep that presidential spunk.

Speaker 7 (28:07):
If you can't watch that, if at some point you
need to, you know, defend yourself and say, no, I'm.

Speaker 4 (28:14):
Gonna write this son presidential spunk.

Speaker 7 (28:20):
Yeah, I understand what well.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
But we say it's a different time, But is it.
Do you think for.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
One, it was way more sexist back then, especially like
there was a remember when I remember when O. J.
Simpson was going through the trial and they show this
in the in The People Versus O. J.

Speaker 7 (28:35):
Simpson.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
There the female lawyer prosecuting OJ was listening to the radio,
and she flips on a radio show from l A, Oh, I.

Speaker 7 (28:43):
Remember her name? What was her name?

Speaker 6 (28:45):
You know?

Speaker 7 (28:45):
So and so Is she a babe or a bitch?

Speaker 1 (28:47):
Yeah, And that was the topic.

Speaker 4 (28:50):
That was the radio show topic, and that was totally
okay back.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
And I totally agree with all that stuff. But I'm
just saying, as far as our president's concerned, if Trump
hooks up with someone and blows a load on a
it's she's going to get treated the same way in
his administration. Now for different reasons. Well, yeah, because he doesn't.

Speaker 7 (29:07):
Care about the story.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
Still, it's still not going to be a fair fight.
Whoever she is is gonna get villainized. That's what they do.
Ye way, the politician.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
Doesn't look bad at least Tommy Daniels is fighting back,
though Monica you just never heard from her, Yeah, because
Stormy is like full.

Speaker 5 (29:23):
But I think that's when the like that the times
are a change in like now you do have a Yeah,
maybe somebody else feels a little more empowered to speak
up as opposed to Monica Lewinsky probably felt like she
had no other choice but to shut up.

Speaker 7 (29:35):
I mean, Stormy Daniels obviously has been shamed her entire
life because she's she's a porn star, so that make
you know, she is used to fighting back. But you know, Monica,
she was just an intern. Yeah, I mean it was
definitely unfair.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
You know, maybe maybe the jokes, uh, maybe the jokes
were fair game, but I think that it was an
uneven fair game. That makes sense, Like I think maybe
the jokes were fine, maybe you shouldn't point out her
weight whatever, but like he should have gotten a lot
of shit.

Speaker 7 (30:01):
So he Yeah, it all should have been on him.
I mean, just you know, you should not have been on.

Speaker 5 (30:05):
Her because it's an abusive power and it's the whole
thing is just like skeeedy.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
Yeah, but it definitely it definitely took the shine off
of him. He went from being the guy it's like, oh,
he can't do any wrong to everyone in a clothes
circles like, well, yeah it's Bill. He's just kind of handsy,
like that's how we see him now. So eventually it
did hurt his image. But in the moment, n.

Speaker 7 (30:26):
Well, it was all the and the lying and the
obvious lying, Like when you define what is is like
you know, you.

Speaker 4 (30:33):
Know what we're talking about dude, come back, it's me Ciga.

Speaker 7 (30:36):
She full around.

Speaker 4 (30:38):
You know, you didn't have to get descripted with the
cigar and everything.

Speaker 7 (30:40):
But what did you do? You fucked around?

Speaker 5 (30:41):
Right?

Speaker 7 (30:42):
Did she doing your wife with?

Speaker 5 (30:44):
Yeah? And then yeah it's and then you got his
his wife and daughter who has to go through the
whole thing.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
Sure Hillary hadn't slept with him in five years?

Speaker 5 (30:52):
Probably not.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
Yeah, you know, remember Elizabeth Hurley, I can't remember. I
think it was she went on Stern and she goes, yeah,
she fucked Bill Clinton.

Speaker 7 (30:58):
She said she didn't, That's what she said.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
And then three days later she had to say that
was not true because I think his people got pissed.

Speaker 4 (31:04):
I totally happened. I at least I believe it.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
Told me now that was more along the line and
nothing against Monica. But if you back then and been like, yeah,
you hooked up Elizabeth early a big power movement. Aggressive
but believable, I mean, fucked up dude, But cer god,
I still can't believe Hugh Grant cheated on that woman
with a man. Yeah, an accidental man.

Speaker 5 (31:28):
Well, you know, it happens.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
Look at her now still every day he's probably like
damn it.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
Yeah, yeah, because she's what sixty something, and she's still
she's still perfectly.

Speaker 7 (31:38):
She does not look any different. She's gorgeous, incredible.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
Found you who looks great too? Is uh Martha Stewart.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
I love Markin.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
I think she's not only funny, she smokes a lot
of weed, but.

Speaker 5 (31:49):
She's like in her eighties.

Speaker 4 (31:50):
Dude, she looks great.

Speaker 5 (31:52):
She's certainly her plastic surgeons.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
She checks all the boxes that makes you feel comfortable.
You know, she can cook, she can clean, she can
coddle you. She could make fun of you. She could
apparently get high with you.

Speaker 5 (32:04):
She makes in appropriate joke.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
I mean yeah, and I bet she She looks freaky
to me too, doesn't like doesn't she look like a
type of girl that wants to hook up with a
thirty year old thirty year old man.

Speaker 7 (32:13):
She and snoop but probably hooked up. I feel it.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
I totally see it.

Speaker 5 (32:17):
If I were Martha Stewart.

Speaker 4 (32:18):
I yeah, she just seems like she could. And you know,
why not bring the young boy toys over, let me
play them.

Speaker 5 (32:24):
Yeah, don't take that off the context, but that on hockey.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
Don't please don't take that clip out of cor Okay,
that does for us. Anybody you have anything else?

Speaker 2 (32:34):
All right? Okay, you've been listening to Tanner, Drew and
Laura's Donkey show, her daily at one O five nine
that brew dot com. May God have mercy on all
of our souls.
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