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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Let me know when you're ready.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I bet that's a good start.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
This is Tanner, Drew and Laura's Donkey Show, Donkey Show.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
What's up Chance? Yeah, Tanner, Jo and Lauren's Donkey Show podcast.
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Clock click clock clock click clack son the black Cat,
get cat.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
That's the emptying of a clip, Laura, that's right.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Oh wow.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Anyway, Hi's Tanner j Law's Donkey Show Podcast. I'm Tanner
Drew here lords here bust dress. Marcus is with this
black black We were just talking. Yeah, oh wow, that
is just clip.
Speaker 6 (00:47):
That's all.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Is Marcus trying to do jokes?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
And can we do that? A black click? Blacking so
hard that it ruined his microphone.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
I see, can we play that?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Yeah, Marcus? You want to do you want to do
that again? Why I pull this up slow.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
Like like kind of quiet, like under like understated a
little bit, you think I like.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
To understated, like the acoustic version.
Speaker 6 (01:08):
Okay, peep po.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
So that's guns and guns and plug It's this is
the jam under This is gonnaet stuck in the headle day,
black black, making.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
My way through the hood, simming this yak niggas about
to get blown with the mate, get.
Speaker 6 (01:28):
Yet, get.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Right.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Never felt so.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
Hard with the block yo ass fan gets shot.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Slick.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
I'm finna kill you.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I'm finna you, and now you bleed.
Speaker 6 (01:50):
Plea when I shoot you?
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Ain't your net No, don't placause you know I will
shoot you and your.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah making my way through Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
All right those ten hour lookies, Yeah, they'll go on
for the ten hours, but it is it's an instant hit.
Oh man. By the way, the video that that came
from was somebody who just was screwing around with GTA
five mods. Yeah, and we were recording this on March
twenty seventh, Thursday, March twenty seven, and twenty twenty five.
The rumors are, and listen, there's been a rumor, say
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every other day with Rockstar GAMESA and GTA six. I
don't believe anything until I actually see it or I
hear it from Rockstar themselves. But the rumors are that
the next trailer trailer to because the game is supposed
to come out what third quarter of this year, right
or fourth?
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I thought it was fourth, but maybe I'm just being
sometime around November October, I guess somewhere in there.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
So The rumors are that the trailer date for trailer
two has been in our like, right in our face
the whole time. The dates are apparently in the first
trailer and it says zero four zero one twenty five.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
That's like some Taylor Swift Easter egg bullshit like, but.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
It's also April Fool's Day. So does that give you
any pause? Maybe, yeah, you know, because it's a little weird.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Yeah, but they wouldn't. Why would they put in April
fol joke in a trail bill?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Messed up? Well, just what does it? Because they know
people are going to read into it like crazy, is
it anything.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Other than a date?
Speaker 4 (03:33):
There's a bunch of numbers on there. I can't Marcus
if you want to pull it up they I guess
some other numbers correlate to a date that's already been set.
And so some are like, okay, well that one's real.
So this one water, this they would nead us to
believe is reel.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Is there usually rules about like when trailers drop because
April first is on a Tuesday? Like is that are there?
Speaker 4 (03:53):
That's not a bad day to drop a trailer?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Yeah, but is it usually like a Friday?
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Or they can dance to their own beat too.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Rockstar can do whatever they want. So, like if trailers
normally come out of a Wednesday, rocks are I'll say,
eat a dick, We'll do it on a Saturday. They
just don't care. They could do it at Saturday at
two am and it'll still.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Will be around.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
It advertises itself, I mean, just this rumor mill. They
don't even have to talk and it gets advertised, but
based on a T shirt.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
They're telling their shareholders. Take two Interactive, which owns Rockstar Games,
is telling their shareholders the game is coming out this year.
So to me, that's like the Ten Commandments.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
They have to like if they because the shareholders, that's
those are the only people who really matter.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Exactly, So and so they where's the hell? What the
hell is this trailer?
Speaker 6 (04:37):
Now?
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Fans are saying, listen red Dead Redemption two is the
same way they waited not too long before the actual
game released to release trailer too. So maybe they're doing
the same thing here, Marcus, what do you think will
we get a trailer on on April Fool's Day for
GTA six The trailer the second.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Trailer man doing what we've done for a living for
as long as we have. April first is like a
whole the calendar. For me, I don't believe anything coming
on April first. You could schedule my wedding on April first,
and I would not believe it until she had the
ring on her finger, and even then I would be
susceptible to some kind of joke.
Speaker 6 (05:12):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
I think it sounds very rockstar to put that date
in the thing just to cause the stir, kind of
like Bor was saying, and they know people are going
to go crazy about it. And I you know, I
have a buddy that works at a very high end
game studio at Bungee, which has worked on a ton
you know, Halo, Destiny, all of them. Yeah, And one
of the things that he told me about after they
release a big game at his studio is that they
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will take a day and they'll order a keg of
beer and a bunch of pizzas, and everybody that worked
on that game will go into a big theater room
and watch all the biggest streamers in the world try
to do all the things that they just.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
I bet that's a blast.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
As a developer, you know something you just see it
come to light and now you can just watch in
real time.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
These these nerds play your game.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
A lot of them are the best at games. So
you're like, well, that are they playing it the way
I intended?
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Exactly?
Speaker 5 (06:02):
I wonder how it's for Sorry, Laura, but it's for
that reason that I can imagine a studio as rich
as rock Star, just like you say, Tanner, They'll release
the trailer on a Saturday, don't give a fuck. They
can do whatever they want, Like they might just put
this in and then when that finally happens and somebody
finally quote unquote discovers the rumor, then they have a
day where they're all drinking pizza and eating beer and
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just watching the internet explode. Like that could totally be
a possibility. They're just doing this for their own entertainment
at this point.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
I mean, I don't know. Some people brought this up
on the internet. How has rock Star kept this quiet?
How have zero leaks come out?
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Except I'm sure there's NDAs all over the place.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
But even even when there's NDAs with things, I mean,
the White House is leaking things left and right? Or
how does this happen? We're probably, but do you think
do you think there are employees. It's kind of like
when you go to a comedy show you have to
check your phone in Maybe I bet it's.
Speaker 6 (06:56):
Like that based on what I've heard though.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
I mean, like, I asked my buddy a very vague
question about an upcoming video game I thought he was
working on. And this is one of my best friends
in the world. You guys all know him. I was
in a band with him back in the early two thousands,
like we're super tight. And he said, under no circumstances
are you going to get any information for me? And
then he told me a very sustinct, sustinct story about
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a guy getting fired and losing his whole career over
telling a friend something.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, I would imagine where the pressure is insane.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
I also, what do they hold over you? Is it like,
is it obviously your career?
Speaker 2 (07:32):
You'll never work in the industry again, I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yeah. I mean you go to their campus. They got
a refrigerator buzz full of bodies.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
I don't know why, Sorry, go ahead, la, No.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I was just gonna say, I wonder how stressful because
like we're all like, oh, building games, that would be
so much fun. But like I wonder stressful.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
You're under a time renment. I think it's like, like, listen,
we have to have this done by this date and
you're just coding. It's not like you're like I feel
like it's probably super stressful, yeah, because there you have
your you're on a time timeline because you got to
get a game, the biggest game ever, Yeah, done at
a certain time, and there's and there's probably a lot
of pressure to get it done and haven't been perfect.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Probably just people are most likely working around the clock
on this thing. I read this book called and this
is a novel, So I mean, I don't really know
if there's much truth to the like what the industry
is like, but it's called Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow
and they work on video games and it's just like
it drives people crazy. So I would love to know like.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Long hours of those guys too. I think they'll they'll
do like eighteen hour days.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Yeah, because we like the idea of video games. We
like the idea of being at the creative session or
be like, oh it should be like this or like
that the person on the ground floor the code.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Have you ever seen? Life isn't fun if you go
and look at early stages of GTA five before it
was released. It looks so awful because you just see
all the math on the screen and it's yeah, it's
one big geometry, no thank you, and it yeah it's
not for you know, like for the common gamer who
just likes to kick it and play a video game.
This isn't your jam. But what do they say? I
really would love to know what the contract says. By
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the way, if you you know, if you release anything,
if you leak anything, only will you lose your career,
will sue you, will take your firstborn. We're gonna launch
your animals into space. Honestly though, we're gonna sell your home.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Black suburbans are going to start pulling up in front
of you like what I do?
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Is it part of when you have the golden ticket,
you don't let it go away. It's the same thing
as if you get a high end Nike job. You
wouldn't They going to sacrifice their sacrifice of things.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
They must be treating their people so well to make
sure that nobody's bitter and spoil like and sour and
goes and screws zero leaks.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah, because if if anything was going awry, you would
think that some disgruntled employee would be saying.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
So, but we've had nothing, and the only leaks I
think we have had are the ones that they intended
for us to see.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Yeah, and no matter what the protocols are, it's impressive
that there's still no leaks if it's even if it's
my career, just the leakage of I've had a couple
of pops.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
I'm just gonna tell you about one scene. No, you're
not like I'm having anally gage right now.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Just thinking yeah, you know what I mean, chips.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Yeah, Marcus Good.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
You got to think about the payment that is involved
with these people that have maybe been working for the
Rockstar GTA franchise for you know, a couple of games. Now,
like their their life span in gaming isn't going to
go through GTA three all the way to GTA six, right,
that's way too long. But think about the growth of
rock Star over that time, and a lot of times
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when they go to pay these coders and these and
these animators and stuff, they'll give them a good salary,
but they'll also say, hey, we want to give you more.
Here's some stock options for you in our company that
the stock prints money. That's all it's ever done. And
if you say something, we're yeah, we'll take your salary,
but we're also going to take those stock options back
that have been growing your nest egg and your retirement
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for god knows how long. Yeah, it's a I mean,
that's a pretty big bargaining chip when you think.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
On it, And like, you don't get paid if this
doesn't go off without a hitch.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Again, they're anticipating what two billion, three billion dollars within days.
We're talking days, and so I would assume that that
is a huge thing. Like we can't give you a big.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Salary, buds, but this is something that stock that will
likely split, and when it splits, your kids won't have
to work.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
And also, like you say, you work on GTA five
or whatever was a six six, you could get a
job doing anything probably in the.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Yeah, I would imagine that if you worked on the
greatest game and the biggest game ever, that you're probably
a shoe in anywhere you want. Like, if you work
in New York, you can work anywhere.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
How exhausted are you though, if you've been working on
this game for however many years and you're just like,
please you don't want to play it anymore. Od I
need a paycheck, I need this Is this thing ever
going to come out? Because I got to feed my family.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Yeah, you know, like and by the time like it
comes out. I always wonder about that about people who
make movies. Can you enjoy a movie like we can
enjoy movies?
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Some people don't.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
They have to hate GTA by the time it comes out.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
By the time it's out, like everyone's excited and you
just like I want to play Sega, Like there'll be.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
A key bump of excitement when they have that keg
watch party of the streamers. But right after that, it's
like turn it off.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
It's like I'm playing pong.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
It's the same thing with when Tanner, when you build
a song, I can't you go over that song so
much that it's you wish it wasn't yours because you've.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Gone over and you hear actors talking about it where
it's like either they don't watch the movies that they're
in or and maybe this, and or they see any
movie at all and can't help but pick it apart
and like what it was like those people also who
are working on these games, if they they do.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
The same thing. But yeah, with games too, I guarantee it,
guarantee it. So I do the same thing. And when
I listen to radio, I critique everything. I can't listen
to radio going.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
To they say, don't make your passion a career because
it can ruin it.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
The game's probably going to cost one hundred dollars. Just
let you know. It sounds like the baseline for like,
just the basic version of GTA is going to be
one hundred bucks.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
It sounds like bye.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Within the game, Well, I need the GTA blanket, the
hat thed visor.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
The Collector's edition will probably be one hundred and fifty
two hundred and fifty bucks.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
And the the GTA night guard that I'm going to
wear will sleep.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah, well I've got the one from them exactly GTA condoms.
They don't wear condoms in g T A.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
I was gonna say, you know what saved sex is
when GTA comes out, because no, what's happening.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Yeah, I just typed in Rockstar Games, GTA six and
the Google News just to see what would come up.
And yeah, g t A six trailer to release date
could have been hiding in plan sight the whole time. Uh,
so the rumors are April first, we'll see. I'm not
saying it's happening because Rockstar hasn't said anything, but I maybe.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
So you may be standing in Disneyland scrolling on your
phone trying to block the sun.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
It's got to happen eventually, because the game's coming out soon.
It got to give us the trailer eventually.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
So when are we supposed to buy the stock? Are
we supposed to already have it?
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Man, there's so much nerd news. I don't even know
what any of this means.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
But certain.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
H X g t A six designer reveals players don't
explore games. I don't know what that means.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
I explore games.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Possibility of possibility of g t A six delay threatens
games industry.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Because all the other games are waiting.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
To find Companies are going to tang.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Yeah, because games are waiting to like they need money
for this quarter or that quarter, and so they're waiting
to announce the release date of their game because they
don't know when GTA is.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Officially cann't want it to get buried.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
If you put your game out around that.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Time, is like purposefully trying to fuck other companies.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Maybe I mean but they're competitive, right, That's part of it.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
But it's also you're not trying to squash out an
entire industry because they do need each other for the
ecosystem of it, to make sure they still keep making
xboxes and PlayStations. But I'm sure you want to win,
but I don't know if you want to kill everybody else.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
And I also I got the feeling that Rockstar is
so big that they're not even concerned with any of.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
What.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Everyone can go fuck themselves. That's the vibe I get
from them.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
We're going this way, you can you can get out
of the way.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
I wonder what the attitude's like in there. Do you
think they're like cocky about it, like we're Rockstar, everyone
else can get fucked. I'm sure, I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I'm sure they're kind. But if you at where to
puff your chance, they'd be like, have a seat.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
I don't think so, because in most industries, a rising
tide lifts all ships. Right, if the gaming industry does well,
it's good for all developers. But Rockstar can be independent
of that. They're gonna do good regardless of if the
tide rises. They're above the tide. It's wild to think
about it like that. But there's no argument to be
made there. They are the biggest, They are the baddest,
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and it's not close, especially watching like Activision fall on
its face over and over again and Biowear fall on
its face, like the U s to be the.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Like this, This new Assassin's Creed getting came out and
people are ripping it apart, you know, and it's it's
crazy when they're spending three hundred and fifty four hundred
million dollars on these games and they're fucking terrible and
they're broken, they're glitching left and right. How can I
And that's why not much for it to be trucked
and then you're charging us eighty bucks for it, and
that's why we're pissed.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
It's a many I'm glad that the snow moves so
accurately when he walks through it, but there's only one
region with fucking snow, like I would like the game
to work, and then if the snow looks a little shoddy,
I'll get over it.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Is killing the rushing video games is killing the gaming
industry because this game I'm playing are now is called Starfield,
and it's big. Think of red Dead Redemption in Space.
It's big, it's epic, and it is the glitchiest thing
I've ever played. Feel the fall out of your ship.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
I feel like it's almost like the equivalent of studios
putting out these big productions with a Madam Web. Yeah,
like a big They spend a ton of money on it,
on the actors and a bunch of a list celebrities,
but they don't take time to like flesh out the
plot or make it.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
We need the gameplay work. It can look beautiful all
day long, but if it's broken, there's zero point.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Right Yeah, Cause even pubg You'll be twenty twenty five
minutes into a campaign and you're in a final battle
in your cars, flying around fats and all of a sudden,
it'll just go. And when that sound starts, it's gonna
restart the whole freaking unit. Yeah, And the it's just
the sense of wasted time when that happens. I mean, videos,
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throw controller video games. We already know, Okay, we're wasting
true time. But there's gonna be a payout here. Me
or him are gonna die, not just turn your Xbox
off and walk away and you Yeah, and if they
do that, to you enough for the game. You're not
coming back now Luckily pubg It's rare anymore, but it
still happens.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
I think there's gonna be a big shift in the
gaming industry soon. They're gonna they're gonna start spinning less. Uh,
they're you know, there is you know. I don't know especially.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
And like AI, I'm sure will play a part in
this to a certain degree, which I think I.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Can get better for cheaper. That's what we need, you know,
because they're gonna budget cut. But hopefully our technology gets
to where it's smoother because it's we have the bigger chip,
we have, you know, more power behind it.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
I want I want smooth gameplay, and I don't want
to be forced to buy something every ten seconds.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
And I don't want to loved one telling me to
go to bed.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Yeah I want to hear about it. Just chill with
the in game purchases.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
I do think that the bugs, I think that'll I
think that'll hurt them if they do that. If they
if it's one of those things where you're constantly seeing
ads for stuff, because like I get fit, I get
fed up with that just being on scrolling through Instagram,
you know, what I mean, it's like I'll shut down
the app.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
I don't think Rockstar will put ads in the game.
But what I mean was like, like I don't want
to have to buy something every time I want to
upgrade right now, Like if I want an attachment for
a gun, I have to spend a twenty dollars pack.
Fuck you, I'm sure I'm making me do that.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
You know that's how it's going to be.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
I can't believe though, they never sold the billboards in
any any of these because well they don't need the money.
Rock Star doesn't. But same with PUBG or anything else
where you're there all the time. If I drove by
on GTA and a billboard instead of having some fake
advertisements said Coca Cola, but it wouldn't take away from
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the gameplay, would actually be more realistic.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
I think maybe experiends don't want to associate with, so
like they don't Coca Cola.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
They don't want to be But also Rockstar said that
they did that intentionally because it's supposed to be satire,
like it's to get it, so that's why it's La.
But it's not La, it's San Andres, right, So.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
You think that they would do like some sort of.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
Like there's clucking bell instead of tako yah yeah, yeah,
yeah right. It's funny.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
But they're mimicking our vehicles, you know, like they're have
different names, but they're mimicked.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Did they get the rights for that? I wonder marketing
is a ripoff? Don't feel like did they just get
a right the rights to like the the schematic of
a range Rover and put in GTA? How they get
all the cars in GTA?
Speaker 5 (19:25):
They just changed little things about them and a lot
of the stuff where you see online where somebody's driving
a Ford f one fifty and it says Ford f
one fifty and it's got the Raptor logos, those are
all mods. They're just there's there's a mod that you
can get for your PC that it's That's the only
thing that it changes about the game is it takes
all of those cars and instead of making them a
generic name with a weird model, it actually has the
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real American cars that you would recognize. So the moding
community does a lot of that stuff. And the other
thing too is you have to think about the way
that these games make money. If they were to sell
that billboard in pubg to coc Cola. They'd get a
good one time payout for that, and that would be great.
But what they also can do is they can put
their new skin on that billboard that costs you fifty
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dollars in the cash shop, and you're gonna play seventy
five games and sit there and look at that and
see all the other advertise their own. That's where they're
those in game purchases. They get huge amounts of just
in game free advertising for them, and that type of
stuff does work. And I want to go back to
one thing. Actually, first, I'd like to make the comment Laura,
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I think you're doing a bang up job on this
one because I can normally when we start talking video games,
I hear the life leave your body as the conversation
goes on.
Speaker 6 (20:39):
But you seem engaged in this one. So I'd just
like to say, you know.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
I think even in the studio, I haven't felt that
energy this whole topic. I haven't felt that.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
She's one of the great actresses of our time, and
I appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
I think at this point I think she wants to
play a little GTA six.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
I'm just I'm not. I mean, I've never played GTA
before that fun. It's fun. I do think it. I
do think it would be fun. I think when I
was younger, it was very much like I mean, I
was the biggest proud on the planet. So it's like,
this is really inappropriate. It's one of those violent and yeah.
So I mean I think I think I probably shouldn't
play it because I think I might get hooked on.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
I think it's one of those games that I think
a couple would have a fun time playing to goe
oh yeah, well, I.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Think it's a lesson in money management. If you spend
money on a prostitute, you can actually get that money
back if you beat it up right or kill that prostitute.
But in the game, not in real life.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Yeah, we'll see what that's like, because you know, it's
a game held in Vice City, which is their version
of Miami.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
I wonder if deaths of prostitutes go up or down
after is really laid down.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
It gives people an outlet for those weird itches.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
I think it's gonna go down. I think it's right
because people are gonna be home playing the game.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
But I don't like to think that people have the
itch to do that at all.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Well, it takes place in a mock Florida. It's not
out here where we're breathing the clean air.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Well, we'll see. The rumors are we could get a trailer,
the second trailer on April Fools. If it does happen,
you'll be able to find it at one of five
nine in the brew dot com. And yeah, and when
we do get going, Marcus, we got to get our
discord going so we can invite listeners into play with us.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
Hell. Yeah, it's gonna be so much fun. Man.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
I'm I'm worried about the amount of time I'm gonna
dump into this game, especially after spending the amount of
money I'm gonna spend on it. The one thing is
we all come back. It always comes full circle. It
better be fucking right if we're gonna pay one hundred
bucks for it. Rockstar hasn't let us down ever, but
the trend is let down every single time broken games.
(22:35):
And you know, as you mentioned it, a disgruntled developer
Tanner saying like, oh, well, gamers don't explore games. I'm sorry,
but I'm gonna flip that argument on its head. You
people programming the games obviously don't understand what the gamers want,
and considering you're making a product for us that we're
spending our hard earned money on, I say, you stop
treating us like we're beta testers and we need to
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go around and feel the edges of every single map
to make sure we can't fall through and find something.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
I understand you spend all that time building a beautiful map,
but sometimes I just want to play the fucking game, like.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
You know what I mean, I want to backlash. I mean,
you know. Rockstar is facing a tremendous amount of pressure
here because if their game is not right, it's like,
what did I spend all this money and wait all, wait,
all this time.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Rockstar will not put out a broken game.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
And they expect perfection and so do their consent.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
They've never put out a broken, broken game, and this
is like they've been around for thirty years.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Like with all the delays and stuff, the pressure just
keeps mounting.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
But that means if that means if it's delayed, it's
still not going to come out broken. I'm okay with
that if they delay it, but I don't think they will. Uh,
we'll see what happens. It's going to make all the
money in the world, and uh yeah, really excited for it.
I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Side note, this has nothing to do with anything Marcus.
Have you signed the petition?
Speaker 6 (23:50):
There's a petition?
Speaker 5 (23:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Uh, I needed I needed so.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
I'm going to sign.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
But I need it. I needed to.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
He doesn't want to read and tell him this whole story.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
I'm so exhausted. Just you know what, just a good idea.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
I don't We don't need to explain it. You can
listen to the podcast. Just go to our Instagram and
click on the button.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
I like, how you know exactly what I was cast
to the podcast.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
I'm on the podcast now.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
They don't know the full show because yeah, there's two podcasts.
Thanks for never hearing it.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
There's a lot to it. So a dog, you don't have.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
To explain it.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
Okay, explain it to me now our office, this puppy
got fired and we're trying to bring him back.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
All right, that's the gist.
Speaker 6 (24:32):
Hell has the dark heart to fire a puppy? Did
you even pay it?
Speaker 1 (24:36):
See we had his signature at hello.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Yeah, okay, I know.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
I just wanted to. You didn't know about it, and
I thought I should bring his a ten.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
Go and sign the petition at one of five nine
dot com and and let's try to get this puppy back.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
You know, we don't know what's going to happen, but
we're going to print out thousands of copies or whatever
we get, so do that.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Now, We're just going to wallpaper the entire front end
of all.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Right, Marcus, good juh, thanks you fuck big ups. Thanks
for joining us today. I'm tired, man, It's been a lot.
I've gotten like six hours of seven hours of sleep
this whole week. I've not been sleeping good at all.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
You'll get a chance to reload before you leave for Disneyland,
since luckily it's the end of the weekend. You'll go, Yeah,
I don't leave till Sunday, so you'll be almost a
normal person by the time you get there.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Recharge and what times your flight on Sunday?
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Like at seven pm?
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Oh wow, you got to recharge to rerun out your battery,
you know, because that's what you got to do on vacau.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
I've been walking, you know, like he talks to retalks
a couple miles every day just to get ready for it.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Do you have new shoes?
Speaker 4 (25:32):
I do, haven't you been using them because I'm saving.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Well, you should break them in at least I will.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
I guess that's a good point. But they're really they're
super light. Yeah, like Nike shoes. But yeah, but just
trying to like just get ready for it because there's
like probably seven eight miles nine miles of walking a day.
You do it, just if you do the whole day.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
You're going to be getting your steps in for sure.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
It's a good way to burn the chiaro off.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Yeah, because I will have plenty, plenty of your multiple turros.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
So yeah, Gus on the petition, there's something else was
gonna say tell you about g t A, but I
forgot lord talking and then.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
I just I wanted to bring it back around to
what was really important.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
And everyone's excited for the game.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
So we'll see you tomorrow one more show before on
vacation for a week, and remember when we come back. Uh,
we're going to start the Tanner Ju and Laura first
ever beat my Meat competition.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Beat your meat, all the meat, beat our meat, beat
our meat, beat beat our meats.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
I thought it was beat my meat. I'm going to
beat my meat.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
I don't know it's the meat.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
It's Casey and Drew telling each other beat my meat.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Beat my meat, to do it through their teeth, just
so you got to grind. Okay, all right, so that
will be on Monday, the seventh. Grind the meat with Monday,
and on your birthday, it's.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Gonna be sweet, biggest bone you've ever seen.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Didn't need to say that part. And then and then
the eleventh, Flora the eleventh will be doing the actual competition.
All right, noise, go ahead, take us out, Come on,
give me a real song, real song, give.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Me in the ofs of she's got this dog on
the brain.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
I don't know the dogs got sent home.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
I'm leaving, not to the Morgue by transport terminated.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
You've been listening to Tanner, Drew and Laura's Donkey Show,
heard daily at one O five nine the brew dot com.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
May God have mercy on all of our souls.
Let me know when you're ready.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I bet that's a good start.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
This is Tanner, Drew and Laura's Donkey Show, Donkey Show.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
What's up Chance? Yeah, Tanner, Jo and Lauren's Donkey Show podcast.
Speaker 5 (00:21):
Block clock clock clock black black.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Clock click clock clock click clack son the black Cat,
get cat.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
That's the emptying of a clip, Laura, that's right.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Oh wow.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Anyway, Hi's Tanner j Law's Donkey Show Podcast. I'm Tanner
Drew here lords here bust dress. Marcus is with this
black black We were just talking. Yeah, oh wow, that
is just clip.
Speaker 6 (00:47):
That's all.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Is Marcus trying to do jokes?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
And can we do that? A black click? Blacking so
hard that it ruined his microphone.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
I see, can we play that?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Yeah, Marcus? You want to do you want to do
that again? Why I pull this up slow.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
Like like kind of quiet, like under like understated a
little bit, you think I like.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
To understated, like the acoustic version.
Speaker 6 (01:08):
Okay, peep po.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
So that's guns and guns and plug It's this is
the jam under This is gonnaet stuck in the headle day,
black black, making.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
My way through the hood, simming this yak niggas about
to get blown with the mate, get.
Speaker 6 (01:28):
Yet, get.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Right.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Never felt so.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
Hard with the block yo ass fan gets shot.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Slick.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
I'm finna kill you.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I'm finna you, and now you bleed.
Speaker 6 (01:50):
Plea when I shoot you?
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Ain't your net No, don't placause you know I will
shoot you and your.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah making my way through Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
All right those ten hour lookies, Yeah, they'll go on
for the ten hours, but it is it's an instant hit.
Oh man. By the way, the video that that came
from was somebody who just was screwing around with GTA
five mods. Yeah, and we were recording this on March
twenty seventh, Thursday, March twenty seven, and twenty twenty five.
The rumors are, and listen, there's been a rumor, say
(02:39):
every other day with Rockstar GAMESA and GTA six. I
don't believe anything until I actually see it or I
hear it from Rockstar themselves. But the rumors are that
the next trailer trailer to because the game is supposed
to come out what third quarter of this year, right
or fourth?
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I thought it was fourth, but maybe I'm just being
sometime around November October, I guess somewhere in there.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
So The rumors are that the trailer date for trailer
two has been in our like, right in our face
the whole time. The dates are apparently in the first
trailer and it says zero four zero one twenty five.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
That's like some Taylor Swift Easter egg bullshit like, but.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
It's also April Fool's Day. So does that give you
any pause? Maybe, yeah, you know, because it's a little weird.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Yeah, but they wouldn't. Why would they put in April
fol joke in a trail bill?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Messed up? Well, just what does it? Because they know
people are going to read into it like crazy, is
it anything.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Other than a date?
Speaker 4 (03:33):
There's a bunch of numbers on there. I can't Marcus
if you want to pull it up they I guess
some other numbers correlate to a date that's already been set.
And so some are like, okay, well that one's real.
So this one water, this they would nead us to
believe is reel.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Is there usually rules about like when trailers drop because
April first is on a Tuesday? Like is that are there?
Speaker 4 (03:53):
That's not a bad day to drop a trailer?
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Yeah, but is it usually like a Friday?
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Or they can dance to their own beat too.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Rockstar can do whatever they want. So, like if trailers
normally come out of a Wednesday, rocks are I'll say,
eat a dick, We'll do it on a Saturday. They
just don't care. They could do it at Saturday at
two am and it'll still.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Will be around.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
It advertises itself, I mean, just this rumor mill. They
don't even have to talk and it gets advertised, but
based on a T shirt.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
They're telling their shareholders. Take two Interactive, which owns Rockstar Games,
is telling their shareholders the game is coming out this year.
So to me, that's like the Ten Commandments.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
They have to like if they because the shareholders, that's
those are the only people who really matter.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Exactly, So and so they where's the hell? What the
hell is this trailer?
Speaker 6 (04:37):
Now?
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Fans are saying, listen red Dead Redemption two is the
same way they waited not too long before the actual
game released to release trailer too. So maybe they're doing
the same thing here, Marcus, what do you think will
we get a trailer on on April Fool's Day for
GTA six The trailer the second.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Trailer man doing what we've done for a living for
as long as we have. April first is like a
whole the calendar. For me, I don't believe anything coming
on April first. You could schedule my wedding on April first,
and I would not believe it until she had the
ring on her finger, and even then I would be
susceptible to some kind of joke.
Speaker 6 (05:12):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
I think it sounds very rockstar to put that date
in the thing just to cause the stir, kind of
like Bor was saying, and they know people are going
to go crazy about it. And I you know, I
have a buddy that works at a very high end
game studio at Bungee, which has worked on a ton
you know, Halo, Destiny, all of them. Yeah, And one
of the things that he told me about after they
release a big game at his studio is that they
(05:36):
will take a day and they'll order a keg of
beer and a bunch of pizzas, and everybody that worked
on that game will go into a big theater room
and watch all the biggest streamers in the world try
to do all the things that they just.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
I bet that's a blast.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
As a developer, you know something you just see it
come to light and now you can just watch in
real time.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
These these nerds play your game.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
A lot of them are the best at games. So
you're like, well, that are they playing it the way
I intended?
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Exactly?
Speaker 5 (06:02):
I wonder how it's for Sorry, Laura, but it's for
that reason that I can imagine a studio as rich
as rock Star, just like you say, Tanner, They'll release
the trailer on a Saturday, don't give a fuck. They
can do whatever they want, Like they might just put
this in and then when that finally happens and somebody
finally quote unquote discovers the rumor, then they have a
day where they're all drinking pizza and eating beer and
(06:24):
just watching the internet explode. Like that could totally be
a possibility. They're just doing this for their own entertainment
at this point.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
I mean, I don't know. Some people brought this up
on the internet. How has rock Star kept this quiet?
How have zero leaks come out?
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Except I'm sure there's NDAs all over the place.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
But even even when there's NDAs with things, I mean,
the White House is leaking things left and right? Or
how does this happen? We're probably, but do you think
do you think there are employees. It's kind of like
when you go to a comedy show you have to
check your phone in Maybe I bet it's.
Speaker 6 (06:56):
Like that based on what I've heard though.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
I mean, like, I asked my buddy a very vague
question about an upcoming video game I thought he was
working on. And this is one of my best friends
in the world. You guys all know him. I was
in a band with him back in the early two thousands,
like we're super tight. And he said, under no circumstances
are you going to get any information for me? And
then he told me a very sustinct, sustinct story about
(07:20):
a guy getting fired and losing his whole career over
telling a friend something.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, I would imagine where the pressure is insane.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
I also, what do they hold over you? Is it like,
is it obviously your career?
Speaker 2 (07:32):
You'll never work in the industry again, I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yeah. I mean you go to their campus. They got
a refrigerator buzz full of bodies.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
I don't know why, Sorry, go ahead, la, No.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
I was just gonna say, I wonder how stressful because
like we're all like, oh, building games, that would be
so much fun. But like I wonder stressful.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
You're under a time renment. I think it's like, like, listen,
we have to have this done by this date and
you're just coding. It's not like you're like I feel
like it's probably super stressful, yeah, because there you have
your you're on a time timeline because you got to
get a game, the biggest game ever, Yeah, done at
a certain time, and there's and there's probably a lot
of pressure to get it done and haven't been perfect.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Probably just people are most likely working around the clock
on this thing. I read this book called and this
is a novel, So I mean, I don't really know
if there's much truth to the like what the industry
is like, but it's called Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow
and they work on video games and it's just like
it drives people crazy. So I would love to know like.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Long hours of those guys too. I think they'll they'll
do like eighteen hour days.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Yeah, because we like the idea of video games. We
like the idea of being at the creative session or
be like, oh it should be like this or like
that the person on the ground floor the code.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Have you ever seen? Life isn't fun if you go
and look at early stages of GTA five before it
was released. It looks so awful because you just see
all the math on the screen and it's yeah, it's
one big geometry, no thank you, and it yeah it's
not for you know, like for the common gamer who
just likes to kick it and play a video game.
This isn't your jam. But what do they say? I
really would love to know what the contract says. By
(09:02):
the way, if you you know, if you release anything,
if you leak anything, only will you lose your career,
will sue you, will take your firstborn. We're gonna launch
your animals into space. Honestly though, we're gonna sell your home.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Black suburbans are going to start pulling up in front
of you like what I do?
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Is it part of when you have the golden ticket,
you don't let it go away. It's the same thing
as if you get a high end Nike job. You
wouldn't They going to sacrifice their sacrifice of things.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
They must be treating their people so well to make
sure that nobody's bitter and spoil like and sour and
goes and screws zero leaks.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah, because if if anything was going awry, you would
think that some disgruntled employee would be saying.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
So, but we've had nothing, and the only leaks I
think we have had are the ones that they intended
for us to see.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Yeah, and no matter what the protocols are, it's impressive
that there's still no leaks if it's even if it's
my career, just the leakage of I've had a couple
of pops.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
I'm just gonna tell you about one scene. No, you're
not like I'm having anally gage right now.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Just thinking yeah, you know what I mean, chips.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Yeah, Marcus Good.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
You got to think about the payment that is involved
with these people that have maybe been working for the
Rockstar GTA franchise for you know, a couple of games. Now,
like their their life span in gaming isn't going to
go through GTA three all the way to GTA six, right,
that's way too long. But think about the growth of
rock Star over that time, and a lot of times
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when they go to pay these coders and these and
these animators and stuff, they'll give them a good salary,
but they'll also say, hey, we want to give you more.
Here's some stock options for you in our company that
the stock prints money. That's all it's ever done. And
if you say something, we're yeah, we'll take your salary,
but we're also going to take those stock options back
that have been growing your nest egg and your retirement
(10:48):
for god knows how long. Yeah, it's a I mean,
that's a pretty big bargaining chip when you think.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
On it, And like, you don't get paid if this
doesn't go off without a hitch.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Again, they're anticipating what two billion, three billion dollars within days.
We're talking days, and so I would assume that that
is a huge thing. Like we can't give you a big.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Salary, buds, but this is something that stock that will
likely split, and when it splits, your kids won't have
to work.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
And also, like you say, you work on GTA five
or whatever was a six six, you could get a
job doing anything probably in the.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Yeah, I would imagine that if you worked on the
greatest game and the biggest game ever, that you're probably
a shoe in anywhere you want. Like, if you work
in New York, you can work anywhere.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
How exhausted are you though, if you've been working on
this game for however many years and you're just like,
please you don't want to play it anymore. Od I
need a paycheck, I need this Is this thing ever
going to come out? Because I got to feed my family.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Yeah, you know, like and by the time like it
comes out. I always wonder about that about people who
make movies. Can you enjoy a movie like we can
enjoy movies?
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Some people don't.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
They have to hate GTA by the time it comes out.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
By the time it's out, like everyone's excited and you
just like I want to play Sega, Like there'll be.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
A key bump of excitement when they have that keg
watch party of the streamers. But right after that, it's
like turn it off.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
It's like I'm playing pong.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
It's the same thing with when Tanner, when you build
a song, I can't you go over that song so
much that it's you wish it wasn't yours because you've.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Gone over and you hear actors talking about it where
it's like either they don't watch the movies that they're
in or and maybe this, and or they see any
movie at all and can't help but pick it apart
and like what it was like those people also who
are working on these games, if they they do.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
The same thing. But yeah, with games too, I guarantee it,
guarantee it. So I do the same thing. And when
I listen to radio, I critique everything. I can't listen
to radio going.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
To they say, don't make your passion a career because
it can ruin it.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
The game's probably going to cost one hundred dollars. Just
let you know. It sounds like the baseline for like,
just the basic version of GTA is going to be
one hundred bucks.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
It sounds like bye.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Within the game, Well, I need the GTA blanket, the
hat thed visor.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
The Collector's edition will probably be one hundred and fifty
two hundred and fifty bucks.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
And the the GTA night guard that I'm going to
wear will sleep.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah, well I've got the one from them exactly GTA condoms.
They don't wear condoms in g T A.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
I was gonna say, you know what saved sex is
when GTA comes out, because no, what's happening.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Yeah, I just typed in Rockstar Games, GTA six and
the Google News just to see what would come up.
And yeah, g t A six trailer to release date
could have been hiding in plan sight the whole time. Uh,
so the rumors are April first, we'll see. I'm not
saying it's happening because Rockstar hasn't said anything, but I maybe.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
So you may be standing in Disneyland scrolling on your
phone trying to block the sun.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
It's got to happen eventually, because the game's coming out soon.
It got to give us the trailer eventually.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
So when are we supposed to buy the stock? Are
we supposed to already have it?
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Man, there's so much nerd news. I don't even know
what any of this means.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
But certain.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
H X g t A six designer reveals players don't
explore games. I don't know what that means.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
I explore games.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Possibility of possibility of g t A six delay threatens
games industry.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Because all the other games are waiting.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
To find Companies are going to tang.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Yeah, because games are waiting to like they need money
for this quarter or that quarter, and so they're waiting
to announce the release date of their game because they
don't know when GTA is.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Officially cann't want it to get buried.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
If you put your game out around that.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Time, is like purposefully trying to fuck other companies.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Maybe I mean but they're competitive, right, That's part of it.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
But it's also you're not trying to squash out an
entire industry because they do need each other for the
ecosystem of it, to make sure they still keep making
xboxes and PlayStations. But I'm sure you want to win,
but I don't know if you want to kill everybody else.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
And I also I got the feeling that Rockstar is
so big that they're not even concerned with any of.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
What.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Everyone can go fuck themselves. That's the vibe I get
from them.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
We're going this way, you can you can get out
of the way.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
I wonder what the attitude's like in there. Do you
think they're like cocky about it, like we're Rockstar, everyone
else can get fucked. I'm sure, I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
I'm sure they're kind. But if you at where to
puff your chance, they'd be like, have a seat.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
I don't think so, because in most industries, a rising
tide lifts all ships. Right, if the gaming industry does well,
it's good for all developers. But Rockstar can be independent
of that. They're gonna do good regardless of if the
tide rises. They're above the tide. It's wild to think
about it like that. But there's no argument to be
made there. They are the biggest, They are the baddest,
(15:25):
and it's not close, especially watching like Activision fall on
its face over and over again and Biowear fall on
its face, like the U s to be the.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Like this, This new Assassin's Creed getting came out and
people are ripping it apart, you know, and it's it's
crazy when they're spending three hundred and fifty four hundred
million dollars on these games and they're fucking terrible and
they're broken, they're glitching left and right. How can I
And that's why not much for it to be trucked
and then you're charging us eighty bucks for it, and
that's why we're pissed.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
It's a many I'm glad that the snow moves so
accurately when he walks through it, but there's only one
region with fucking snow, like I would like the game
to work, and then if the snow looks a little shoddy,
I'll get over it.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
Is killing the rushing video games is killing the gaming
industry because this game I'm playing are now is called Starfield,
and it's big. Think of red Dead Redemption in Space.
It's big, it's epic, and it is the glitchiest thing
I've ever played. Feel the fall out of your ship.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
I feel like it's almost like the equivalent of studios
putting out these big productions with a Madam Web. Yeah,
like a big They spend a ton of money on it,
on the actors and a bunch of a list celebrities,
but they don't take time to like flesh out the
plot or make it.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
We need the gameplay work. It can look beautiful all
day long, but if it's broken, there's zero point.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Right Yeah, Cause even pubg You'll be twenty twenty five
minutes into a campaign and you're in a final battle
in your cars, flying around fats and all of a sudden,
it'll just go. And when that sound starts, it's gonna
restart the whole freaking unit. Yeah, And the it's just
the sense of wasted time when that happens. I mean, videos,
(17:05):
throw controller video games. We already know, Okay, we're wasting
true time. But there's gonna be a payout here. Me
or him are gonna die, not just turn your Xbox
off and walk away and you Yeah, and if they
do that, to you enough for the game. You're not
coming back now Luckily pubg It's rare anymore, but it
still happens.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
I think there's gonna be a big shift in the
gaming industry soon. They're gonna they're gonna start spinning less. Uh,
they're you know, there is you know. I don't know especially.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
And like AI, I'm sure will play a part in
this to a certain degree, which I think I.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Can get better for cheaper. That's what we need, you know,
because they're gonna budget cut. But hopefully our technology gets
to where it's smoother because it's we have the bigger chip,
we have, you know, more power behind it.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
I want I want smooth gameplay, and I don't want
to be forced to buy something every ten seconds.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
And I don't want to loved one telling me to
go to bed.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Yeah I want to hear about it. Just chill with
the in game purchases.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
I do think that the bugs, I think that'll I
think that'll hurt them if they do that. If they
if it's one of those things where you're constantly seeing
ads for stuff, because like I get fit, I get
fed up with that just being on scrolling through Instagram,
you know, what I mean, it's like I'll shut down
the app.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
I don't think Rockstar will put ads in the game.
But what I mean was like, like I don't want
to have to buy something every time I want to
upgrade right now, Like if I want an attachment for
a gun, I have to spend a twenty dollars pack.
Fuck you, I'm sure I'm making me do that.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
You know that's how it's going to be.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
I can't believe though, they never sold the billboards in
any any of these because well they don't need the money.
Rock Star doesn't. But same with PUBG or anything else
where you're there all the time. If I drove by
on GTA and a billboard instead of having some fake
advertisements said Coca Cola, but it wouldn't take away from
(18:48):
the gameplay, would actually be more realistic.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
I think maybe experiends don't want to associate with, so
like they don't Coca Cola.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
They don't want to be But also Rockstar said that
they did that intentionally because it's supposed to be satire,
like it's to get it, so that's why it's La.
But it's not La, it's San Andres, right, So.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
You think that they would do like some sort of.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
Like there's clucking bell instead of tako yah yeah, yeah,
yeah right. It's funny.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
But they're mimicking our vehicles, you know, like they're have
different names, but they're mimicked.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Did they get the rights for that? I wonder marketing
is a ripoff? Don't feel like did they just get
a right the rights to like the the schematic of
a range Rover and put in GTA? How they get
all the cars in GTA?
Speaker 5 (19:25):
They just changed little things about them and a lot
of the stuff where you see online where somebody's driving
a Ford f one fifty and it says Ford f
one fifty and it's got the Raptor logos, those are
all mods. They're just there's there's a mod that you
can get for your PC that it's That's the only
thing that it changes about the game is it takes
all of those cars and instead of making them a
generic name with a weird model, it actually has the
(19:48):
real American cars that you would recognize. So the moding
community does a lot of that stuff. And the other
thing too is you have to think about the way
that these games make money. If they were to sell
that billboard in pubg to coc Cola. They'd get a
good one time payout for that, and that would be great.
But what they also can do is they can put
their new skin on that billboard that costs you fifty
(20:08):
dollars in the cash shop, and you're gonna play seventy
five games and sit there and look at that and
see all the other advertise their own. That's where they're
those in game purchases. They get huge amounts of just
in game free advertising for them, and that type of
stuff does work. And I want to go back to
one thing. Actually, first, I'd like to make the comment Laura,
(20:30):
I think you're doing a bang up job on this
one because I can normally when we start talking video games,
I hear the life leave your body as the conversation
goes on.
Speaker 6 (20:39):
But you seem engaged in this one. So I'd just
like to say, you know.
Speaker 4 (20:41):
I think even in the studio, I haven't felt that
energy this whole topic. I haven't felt that.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
She's one of the great actresses of our time, and
I appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
I think at this point I think she wants to
play a little GTA six.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
I'm just I'm not. I mean, I've never played GTA
before that fun. It's fun. I do think it. I
do think it would be fun. I think when I
was younger, it was very much like I mean, I
was the biggest proud on the planet. So it's like,
this is really inappropriate. It's one of those violent and yeah.
So I mean I think I think I probably shouldn't
play it because I think I might get hooked on.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
I think it's one of those games that I think
a couple would have a fun time playing to goe
oh yeah, well, I.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Think it's a lesson in money management. If you spend
money on a prostitute, you can actually get that money
back if you beat it up right or kill that prostitute.
But in the game, not in real life.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Yeah, we'll see what that's like, because you know, it's
a game held in Vice City, which is their version
of Miami.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
I wonder if deaths of prostitutes go up or down
after is really laid down.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
It gives people an outlet for those weird itches.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
I think it's gonna go down. I think it's right
because people are gonna be home playing the game.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
But I don't like to think that people have the
itch to do that at all.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Well, it takes place in a mock Florida. It's not
out here where we're breathing the clean air.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Well, we'll see. The rumors are we could get a trailer,
the second trailer on April Fools. If it does happen,
you'll be able to find it at one of five
nine in the brew dot com. And yeah, and when
we do get going, Marcus, we got to get our
discord going so we can invite listeners into play with us.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
Hell. Yeah, it's gonna be so much fun. Man.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
I'm I'm worried about the amount of time I'm gonna
dump into this game, especially after spending the amount of
money I'm gonna spend on it. The one thing is
we all come back. It always comes full circle. It
better be fucking right if we're gonna pay one hundred
bucks for it. Rockstar hasn't let us down ever, but
the trend is let down every single time broken games.
(22:35):
And you know, as you mentioned it, a disgruntled developer
Tanner saying like, oh, well, gamers don't explore games. I'm sorry,
but I'm gonna flip that argument on its head. You
people programming the games obviously don't understand what the gamers want,
and considering you're making a product for us that we're
spending our hard earned money on, I say, you stop
treating us like we're beta testers and we need to
(22:56):
go around and feel the edges of every single map
to make sure we can't fall through and find something.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
I understand you spend all that time building a beautiful map,
but sometimes I just want to play the fucking game, like.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
You know what I mean, I want to backlash. I mean,
you know. Rockstar is facing a tremendous amount of pressure
here because if their game is not right, it's like,
what did I spend all this money and wait all, wait,
all this time.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Rockstar will not put out a broken game.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
And they expect perfection and so do their consent.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
They've never put out a broken, broken game, and this
is like they've been around for thirty years.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Like with all the delays and stuff, the pressure just
keeps mounting.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
But that means if that means if it's delayed, it's
still not going to come out broken. I'm okay with
that if they delay it, but I don't think they will. Uh,
we'll see what happens. It's going to make all the
money in the world, and uh yeah, really excited for it.
I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Side note, this has nothing to do with anything Marcus.
Have you signed the petition?
Speaker 6 (23:50):
There's a petition?
Speaker 5 (23:51):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Uh, I needed I needed so.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
I'm going to sign.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
But I need it. I needed to.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
He doesn't want to read and tell him this whole story.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
I'm so exhausted. Just you know what, just a good idea.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
I don't We don't need to explain it. You can
listen to the podcast. Just go to our Instagram and
click on the button.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
I like, how you know exactly what I was cast
to the podcast.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
I'm on the podcast now.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
They don't know the full show because yeah, there's two podcasts.
Thanks for never hearing it.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
There's a lot to it. So a dog, you don't have.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
To explain it.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
Okay, explain it to me now our office, this puppy
got fired and we're trying to bring him back.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
All right, that's the gist.
Speaker 6 (24:32):
Hell has the dark heart to fire a puppy? Did
you even pay it?
Speaker 1 (24:36):
See we had his signature at hello.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Yeah, okay, I know.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
I just wanted to. You didn't know about it, and
I thought I should bring his a ten.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
Go and sign the petition at one of five nine
dot com and and let's try to get this puppy back.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
You know, we don't know what's going to happen, but
we're going to print out thousands of copies or whatever
we get, so do that.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Now, We're just going to wallpaper the entire front end
of all.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Right, Marcus, good juh, thanks you fuck big ups. Thanks
for joining us today. I'm tired, man, It's been a lot.
I've gotten like six hours of seven hours of sleep
this whole week. I've not been sleeping good at all.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
You'll get a chance to reload before you leave for Disneyland,
since luckily it's the end of the weekend. You'll go, Yeah,
I don't leave till Sunday, so you'll be almost a
normal person by the time you get there.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Recharge and what times your flight on Sunday?
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Like at seven pm?
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Oh wow, you got to recharge to rerun out your battery,
you know, because that's what you got to do on vacau.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
I've been walking, you know, like he talks to retalks
a couple miles every day just to get ready for it.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Do you have new shoes?
Speaker 4 (25:32):
I do, haven't you been using them because I'm saving.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Well, you should break them in at least I will.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
I guess that's a good point. But they're really they're
super light. Yeah, like Nike shoes. But yeah, but just
trying to like just get ready for it because there's
like probably seven eight miles nine miles of walking a day.
You do it, just if you do the whole day.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
You're going to be getting your steps in for sure.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
It's a good way to burn the chiaro off.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Yeah, because I will have plenty, plenty of your multiple turros.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
So yeah, Gus on the petition, there's something else was
gonna say tell you about g t A, but I
forgot lord talking and then.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
I just I wanted to bring it back around to
what was really important.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
And everyone's excited for the game.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
So we'll see you tomorrow one more show before on
vacation for a week, and remember when we come back. Uh,
we're going to start the Tanner Ju and Laura first
ever beat my Meat competition.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Beat your meat, all the meat, beat our meat, beat
our meat, beat beat our meats.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
I thought it was beat my meat. I'm going to
beat my meat.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
I don't know it's the meat.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
It's Casey and Drew telling each other beat my meat.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Beat my meat, to do it through their teeth, just
so you got to grind. Okay, all right, so that
will be on Monday, the seventh. Grind the meat with Monday,
and on your birthday, it's.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Gonna be sweet, biggest bone you've ever seen.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Didn't need to say that part. And then and then
the eleventh, Flora the eleventh will be doing the actual competition.
All right, noise, go ahead, take us out, Come on,
give me a real song, real song, give.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Me in the ofs of she's got this dog on
the brain.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
I don't know the dogs got sent home.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
I'm leaving, not to the Morgue by transport terminated.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
You've been listening to Tanner, Drew and Laura's Donkey Show,
heard daily at one O five nine the brew dot com.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
May God have mercy on all of our souls.
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