Calling inspired moms & dads who would love to become a substitute teacher in Wisconisn! Today, we welcome Dr. Stephanie Wall, Director at Kelly Education to our show! Stephanie is an experienced educator who knows the challenges teachers and administrators face every day. Her educational research combines with her hands-on corporate HR knowledge to make her a visionary leader in our Tutoring Solutions business. She will serve as our in-house expert on addressing learning loss and optimizing student success. Dr. Wall lives in Seminole County and has worked for the Seminole County School District for 11 years, serving as a District Administrator, Grant Manager, Assistant Principal, and classroom teacher. She will partner with us on new solutions to assist with instructional effectiveness. Krista and Dr. Wall chat about the benefits of becoming a substitute teacher, how does this training program support our community, what are the economic benefits of becoming a substitute teacher, and what are the advantages that Kelly Education brings to you and your family!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the Mad's Own Mom Squad podcast, a production
of iHeartRadio. Hard working real mamas having real conversations. Now
sit back, relax, and get ready to talk mom life
with Chrisa and her squad.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Well, Matt Allan, I am a super thrilled to have
this phenomenal guest on the show today because it touches
my heart personally. As my mom. She was a single
mother of three kids, and she was a beautiful, inspiring teacher.
She taught special ed, she was a physical education teacher,
(00:35):
and she was just everything to me. And as we
all know as parents, our teachers are what are inspiring
our children for a future, and we all know that
growing up, our education was everything. I would definitely not
be here today if it wasn't for my pursuit into
education outside of high school, going to college, and then
(00:55):
falling into this career. So we have an absolutely beautiful women.
She's not here locally, so this is very exciting. Let
me introduce this queen of ours hashtag Lady Boss. I
love to welcome doctor Stephanie. While she is the director
of Learning at Kelly Education. There is so much to
be said about this woman. Stephanie is an experienced educator
(01:19):
who knows the challenges teachers in an administrator's face every day.
Her educational research combines with her hands on corporate hr
knowledge to make her a visionary leader in our tutoring
solution business. She will serve as our in house expert
on addressing learning loss and optimizing students' success. Also, doctor
(01:41):
Wall lives in gorgeous Seminole County and has worked for
the school district for eleven years, serving as a district administrator,
grant manager, assistant principal, God bless you, and a classroom teacher.
She is here today to talk about something that is
so needed in our school districts, and that is substitute teachers. Nonetheless,
(02:03):
good morning, my love, how.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Are you totally introduction? Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Oh you're so welcome. Well, it is a treat because
just so quickly want to let you know one of
our other fabulous hosts on here, Shanna Powell, got into
becoming a substitute teacher. And you know, she's been a
single mom and she's got five kiddos and she's done
such a remarkable job that she got hired on full time.
(02:27):
So we are thrilled on the Mantow Mom Squad for
her success. So I let her know about our interview
today and she was like super pumped up.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
That's great And it's such a great success story too,
and one that we hear a lot about how up too.
Teaching can really be kind of an entry point for
a broader career in education or really wherever your dreams
take you.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
But it's a.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Great way to connect with the community, give back to students,
and then just work towards whatever your career goals are. Yes,
so it's a wonderful opportunity.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Well, you have such a tremendous background, such a variety
in things that you have gotten yourself into, and now
that you have taken on the role of director of
Learning at Kelly Education, which you're you know, not only
doing that where you live, but you're doing this nationwide.
And that's why I'm so happy that we connected. So
let's get into this. Why is the topic of substitute
(03:18):
teaching so important, especially for the moms out there? Let's
talk about that.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yeah, I think the answer there is really twofold.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
I mean, as moms, I think we really care about
our children's education, and recent data is showing that our
students are going to spend up to one full academic
year of their academic career working with a substitute teacher.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
And so these.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Students, our children, are really spending time with substitutes, and
we need to make sure that we have the right
folks in those roles that they know how to support students,
how to keep learning moving forward when teachers are out.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
It's kind of a different.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Time now, when you know, when we were younger, the
substitute would show up and maybe they rolled in that
that old TV and you know, you put on a movie.
And we just don't have that time now in schools
to really waste.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
When a teacher is.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Out, learning needs to continue, and so our substitutes need
to have the skills, experience, and qualifications to keep that
learning going no matter how long a teacher is out
or for whatever reason. And so I think just that
knowing our students are served as moms is really really critical.
(04:30):
And the other side of that is really you know,
for moms from a career perspective, being a substitute teacher
can be a great way to either return.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
To the workforce or to balance kind of.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Your workforce and needs to earn an income and really
get a paycheck, but also be present and available for
your children if that's something that you need to do.
So it's really a great topic from both sides for
this group.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
So yeah, and I love that. You know, just outside
of that, our lives change every single day. Things happen
in our lives. So when we're talking about, you know,
with moms getting back into the workforce, you know, we
go through divorce sometimes, you know, we were stay at
home moms. We need to get back out there, you know,
and support our kiddos. This is a great opportunity which
(05:19):
I love as well. And you know, again it's it's
just so important to be able to be an inspiration
in our in our children's lives, and what a rewarding
position that is. I remember my even my mom's students
would like come over to her all the time say
missus Hatcher, thank you for you know, inspiring me to
do this. Sometimes they would come over to our house.
(05:41):
You know, I know today's times are much different, but
again it meant a lot to her. So how does
your substitute teacher training program support the continuity of learning
and then address the challenges in education that we are seeing?
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Yeah, excellent question.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
So, you know, with Kelly Education being the leading provider
of substitute teachers really nationally, we like to share this anecdote.
We invented the substitute teaching business really through one of
our local school partners more than twenty six years ago,
came to us with kind of this challenge and they
needed substitute teachers and thought that was something that they
(06:17):
could work with us to fill and from that we
really evolved the substitute teaching business as it is today.
And so we've been doing this for a really long time,
and we've been doing it really well across school districts
really across the country, and so we're really the right
folks to be putting together a training program for substitute teachers.
(06:38):
And so that's what we've done here in Wisconsin is
our second state that we've been providing a state specific
training too. And what we've done as well that I
think is really important is created something that's relevant.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
For today's substitute teachers.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
So it's not just our expertise kind of over the
length of time, it's also knowing what it takes to
be a substitute most COVID world with some of the
challenges that we're seeing in schools today with ongoing kind
of teacher absences and vacancies, how is that impacting substitute
teaching culture? And then packaging all of that in a
really engaging, well done, accessible learning module, I think is
(07:17):
really what sets us apart. Our training is fully online,
but it's not that ho hum online training that you're
kind of painfully getting through, really engaging, lots of meaningful anecdotes,
lots of checks for understanding along the way to make
sure that those folks are really getting what they need
to be confident and successful in the classroom from day one.
(07:39):
Because I think in the end, we know we can
kind of impact that continuity of learning, both by what
the teachers are doing and the substitutes are doing day
to day in the classroom, but also by making sure
that people want to come back to the classroom once again,
and they want to come back when they feel confident
and they feel like they're making a difference.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Love that. Love that. And when it comes to the training,
Doctor Wall, is there like a specific timeline when it
comes to completing this type of training.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Absolutely?
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
So the training takes about three to five hours to complete,
and so our folks have about ninety days to go
through the training from purchase, which is really more than
enough time because you can kind of move at your
own pace, move through modules quickly if you'd like, but
you really have that ability to go as quickly or
as slowly as you liked, as long as you complete
(08:30):
it within.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
The ninety days.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
And it is required to become a substitute teacher in
the state of Wisconsin. So unless you're in an educator
preparation program, which the majority is to turned on, you
are having to complete some kind of substitute teacher training program.
So it's really the first step in your substitute journey.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
If that's the as you're looking to go.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Down, wonderful because I was just going to ask that.
I mean, you know, when you're applying them for a
job and you show them that this type of credential
and training, this is what can get you in.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Absolutely, and I think with our training being whether you're
working for a Kelly Education or a teacher's on call district,
this training is really relevant. It's stay approved, but it's
definitely the most relevant, it's definitely the most up to date,
the newest's out there. So I think that would definitely
be a differentiator for you as someone who's going out
(09:22):
and applying for school districts after you get your certifications
and complete this training.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
So can you now discuss on the economic benefits of
a substitute teaching and how your new training program enhances
then these amazing opportunities to come.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Yeah. Absolutely, Well, I'll just kind of piggyback on what
I said earlier about you know, really being confident and
and effective in the classroom. I think our training is
what's going to help folks feel ready prepared and to
have really a good experience as a substitute teacher. And
if they're having that, they're going to want to continue
that work. And so those economic benefits are through that.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Ca continued work.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
First, first of all, right, like I've picked up a
substitute job, I like it.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
This is something I can continue to earn from. But
more broadly, being.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
A substitute teacher does give you a kind of that
locus of control. Like this week, I can work five days,
you know, and so I'm going to pick up five assignments.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Next week I can only work.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Two days, and so you have that flexibility to kind
of you know, manage your lifestyle and your situation. You know,
maybe you have a spouse in law enforcement or a firefighter,
and so you need to rotate. It's three days this week, I.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Can work in two days next week. So you have
that flexibility. But a lot of.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
You know, flexible jobs don't have that same kind of
economic benefit, right because these substitute positions are paid very
well in the data Wisconsin comparatively speaking, and so it's
just a great way to access that flexible work that
also pays very well and is very meaningful.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
I was just going to ask you that, can you
kind of give a general like dollar amount what teachers
here in Wisconsin as a substitute might be making.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Well, that's a little tricky because there are there is
a lot of variations, but I would say just from
my lens at the national level, I would.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Say it's quite competitive.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
And I think what I also really like about with
Punson is that you know, your state really focuses on
having the right person in the classroom. So you're you know,
you do need an associate's degree to become a substitute teacher,
you do need this training, and I think that your
state has done a great job in kind of recognizing
that when it comes to compensation, wonderful.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah, I love that. I love that. Yeah, and then
just you're doing a great Oh, thank you. Just another
quick question that I had so because I'm curious. So
you know, say you get hired out of school right
to maybe become like a substitute teacher for an eighth
grade class because maybe the teacher is on maternity leave.
So when that time comes to an end, do they
(11:57):
go and reapply maybe for another plus position at that
school or does someone just go and reach out to
different types of schools.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Yeah, that's a great question.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
It really depends on how the school district is managing
their substitute population. So you know, you have districts that
kind of manage that on their own, and so somebody
at the school district is thinking through that whole process
and how the substitutes might navigate it. And then you
have school districts that will partner with someone like Kelly
Education or Teachers on call and we manage that fullyef
(12:28):
for the district.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
And so we have an.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Entire process and system that really empowers the substitute to
go in and map out what their work journey is
going to look like throughout the course of you know,
the months, the year, and so maybe they pick up
that long term assignment. But when you're working with Kelly Education,
you can see if that if it's going to end
(12:51):
and there's another one coming in the pipeline, you can
go ahead and pick that up in advance.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
So there is a way to build.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
You know, we talked a lot about flexibility, but there
is that absolutely a way to build really a full
time substitute teaching career, and a lot of folks like
that because you know, you can really have the impact
on students, but you don't necessarily have to do some
of the other obligations but maybe a full time teacher
might have to do. Sure, and so you definitely have
(13:18):
again that locus of control, which is really important.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
To a lot of folks.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
So we're going to add to this list of doctor
Stephanie Wall hashtag agent because that is what that's all about.
I'll be like, girl, what's my next job? Advocating? Which
is important to advocate. Okay, so, now, what distinctive advantage
does Kelly Education bring to the table that makes it
exceptionally qualified to deliver the substitute teacher training maybe versus
(13:45):
others that are out there.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Great questions is like my favorite question. Again, we did
invent to teaching, you know, trade as an industry, so
we understand what it takes to get the right person
in a class room showing up consistently and moving.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Student learning forward.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Right. We are one of the few organizations that really
emphasizes that learning element. You know, we have a Director
of Learning, which I think speaks volumes to us as
an organization. We know that putting substitutes in the classroom
is about more than just a warm body. It's about
advancing learning. And so I think that position makes us
(14:26):
really the experts in the industry. And then we have
a team of wonderful educators and my department that put
all of that experience.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Kind of pen to paper in creating this training.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
And so you take that experience, that expertise, and then
you package it using the best practices in online and
virtual learning. And so we've created something that's truly digestible
for as firing substitutes. It's truly going to help them
feel prepared and really get them what they need to
be supported intoday's classrooms.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
And we love that.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
The Department of Education in Wisconsin approved US, so we
are official official because that's important as well. We are
one of those state approved courses. And I think just
the last piece that I will add is just that
flexibility right there. There are some options for in person
learning that the state puts out that I think are great,
but if that's not something that you can really commit
(15:20):
to and you're doing this, you know, maybe during nap
time or after bedtime, our course definitely gives you that
flexibility and it's not going to put you to sleep.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
If it's after bedtime, which so much coffee we can
survive on exactly.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Yeah, I think those are the big differentiators for us.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Well, this is just a tremendous Again, another opportunity, especially
for women out there and men too to find an
opportunity to get into the school districts if you're looking
to make you know, an extra income for your family
and you just always have had a passion for inspiring
children stuff that you teaching is definitely where it's at,
(16:02):
doctor Paul. Where can people then contact you in this
learning center.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
So if they go to www.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Dot substitute teachingpathways dot com, you'll see all the information
they can go in and purchase the cores right on
our page, drop it in their little shopping cart, and
get started today if that's what they'd like to do.
We're also posted on the Wisconsin DPI site that's a
little bit easier to find under the Substitute Teaching Licensure
information and so they just click and get started.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Fabulous. I appreciate you reaching out to us as an
honor to have you on our show, and we would
love to have you back on the Mattown Mom Squad again.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
A wonderful well.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Thank you so much, I really appreciate it.
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This is the Mad's Own Mom Squad podcast, a production
of iHeartRadio. Hard working real mamas having real conversations. Now
sit back, relax, and get ready to talk mom life
with Chrisa and her squad.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Well, Matt Allan, I am a super thrilled to have
this phenomenal guest on the show today because it touches
my heart personally. As my mom. She was a single
mother of three kids, and she was a beautiful, inspiring teacher.
She taught special ed, she was a physical education teacher,
(00:35):
and she was just everything to me. And as we
all know as parents, our teachers are what are inspiring
our children for a future, and we all know that
growing up, our education was everything. I would definitely not
be here today if it wasn't for my pursuit into
education outside of high school, going to college, and then
(00:55):
falling into this career. So we have an absolutely beautiful women.
She's not here locally, so this is very exciting. Let
me introduce this queen of ours hashtag Lady Boss. I
love to welcome doctor Stephanie. While she is the director
of Learning at Kelly Education. There is so much to
be said about this woman. Stephanie is an experienced educator
(01:19):
who knows the challenges teachers in an administrator's face every day.
Her educational research combines with her hands on corporate hr
knowledge to make her a visionary leader in our tutoring
solution business. She will serve as our in house expert
on addressing learning loss and optimizing students' success. Also, doctor
(01:41):
Wall lives in gorgeous Seminole County and has worked for
the school district for eleven years, serving as a district administrator,
grant manager, assistant principal, God bless you, and a classroom teacher.
She is here today to talk about something that is
so needed in our school districts, and that is substitute teachers. Nonetheless,
(02:03):
good morning, my love, how.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Are you totally introduction? Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Oh you're so welcome. Well, it is a treat because
just so quickly want to let you know one of
our other fabulous hosts on here, Shanna Powell, got into
becoming a substitute teacher. And you know, she's been a
single mom and she's got five kiddos and she's done
such a remarkable job that she got hired on full time.
(02:27):
So we are thrilled on the Mantow Mom Squad for
her success. So I let her know about our interview
today and she was like super pumped up.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
That's great And it's such a great success story too,
and one that we hear a lot about how up too.
Teaching can really be kind of an entry point for
a broader career in education or really wherever your dreams
take you.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
But it's a.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Great way to connect with the community, give back to students,
and then just work towards whatever your career goals are. Yes,
so it's a wonderful opportunity.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Well, you have such a tremendous background, such a variety
in things that you have gotten yourself into, and now
that you have taken on the role of director of
Learning at Kelly Education, which you're you know, not only
doing that where you live, but you're doing this nationwide.
And that's why I'm so happy that we connected. So
let's get into this. Why is the topic of substitute
(03:18):
teaching so important, especially for the moms out there? Let's
talk about that.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yeah, I think the answer there is really twofold.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
I mean, as moms, I think we really care about
our children's education, and recent data is showing that our
students are going to spend up to one full academic
year of their academic career working with a substitute teacher.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
And so these.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Students, our children, are really spending time with substitutes, and
we need to make sure that we have the right
folks in those roles that they know how to support students,
how to keep learning moving forward when teachers are out.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
It's kind of a different.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Time now, when you know, when we were younger, the
substitute would show up and maybe they rolled in that
that old TV and you know, you put on a movie.
And we just don't have that time now in schools
to really waste.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
When a teacher is.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Out, learning needs to continue, and so our substitutes need
to have the skills, experience, and qualifications to keep that
learning going no matter how long a teacher is out
or for whatever reason. And so I think just that
knowing our students are served as moms is really really critical.
(04:30):
And the other side of that is really you know,
for moms from a career perspective, being a substitute teacher
can be a great way to either return.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
To the workforce or to balance kind of.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Your workforce and needs to earn an income and really
get a paycheck, but also be present and available for
your children if that's something that you need to do.
So it's really a great topic from both sides for
this group.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
So yeah, and I love that. You know, just outside
of that, our lives change every single day. Things happen
in our lives. So when we're talking about, you know,
with moms getting back into the workforce, you know, we
go through divorce sometimes, you know, we were stay at
home moms. We need to get back out there, you know,
and support our kiddos. This is a great opportunity which
(05:19):
I love as well. And you know, again it's it's
just so important to be able to be an inspiration
in our in our children's lives, and what a rewarding
position that is. I remember my even my mom's students
would like come over to her all the time say
missus Hatcher, thank you for you know, inspiring me to
do this. Sometimes they would come over to our house.
(05:41):
You know, I know today's times are much different, but
again it meant a lot to her. So how does
your substitute teacher training program support the continuity of learning
and then address the challenges in education that we are seeing?
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Yeah, excellent question.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
So, you know, with Kelly Education being the leading provider
of substitute teachers really nationally, we like to share this anecdote.
We invented the substitute teaching business really through one of
our local school partners more than twenty six years ago,
came to us with kind of this challenge and they
needed substitute teachers and thought that was something that they
(06:17):
could work with us to fill and from that we
really evolved the substitute teaching business as it is today.
And so we've been doing this for a really long time,
and we've been doing it really well across school districts
really across the country, and so we're really the right
folks to be putting together a training program for substitute teachers.
(06:38):
And so that's what we've done here in Wisconsin is
our second state that we've been providing a state specific
training too. And what we've done as well that I
think is really important is created something that's relevant.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
For today's substitute teachers.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
So it's not just our expertise kind of over the
length of time, it's also knowing what it takes to
be a substitute most COVID world with some of the
challenges that we're seeing in schools today with ongoing kind
of teacher absences and vacancies, how is that impacting substitute
teaching culture? And then packaging all of that in a
really engaging, well done, accessible learning module, I think is
(07:17):
really what sets us apart. Our training is fully online,
but it's not that ho hum online training that you're
kind of painfully getting through, really engaging, lots of meaningful anecdotes,
lots of checks for understanding along the way to make
sure that those folks are really getting what they need
to be confident and successful in the classroom from day one.
(07:39):
Because I think in the end, we know we can
kind of impact that continuity of learning, both by what
the teachers are doing and the substitutes are doing day
to day in the classroom, but also by making sure
that people want to come back to the classroom once again,
and they want to come back when they feel confident
and they feel like they're making a difference.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Love that. Love that. And when it comes to the training,
Doctor Wall, is there like a specific timeline when it
comes to completing this type of training.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Absolutely?
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
So the training takes about three to five hours to complete,
and so our folks have about ninety days to go
through the training from purchase, which is really more than
enough time because you can kind of move at your
own pace, move through modules quickly if you'd like, but
you really have that ability to go as quickly or
as slowly as you liked, as long as you complete
(08:30):
it within.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
The ninety days.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
And it is required to become a substitute teacher in
the state of Wisconsin. So unless you're in an educator
preparation program, which the majority is to turned on, you
are having to complete some kind of substitute teacher training program.
So it's really the first step in your substitute journey.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
If that's the as you're looking to go.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Down, wonderful because I was just going to ask that.
I mean, you know, when you're applying them for a
job and you show them that this type of credential
and training, this is what can get you in.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Absolutely, and I think with our training being whether you're
working for a Kelly Education or a teacher's on call district,
this training is really relevant. It's stay approved, but it's
definitely the most relevant, it's definitely the most up to date,
the newest's out there. So I think that would definitely
be a differentiator for you as someone who's going out
(09:22):
and applying for school districts after you get your certifications
and complete this training.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
So can you now discuss on the economic benefits of
a substitute teaching and how your new training program enhances
then these amazing opportunities to come.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Yeah. Absolutely, Well, I'll just kind of piggyback on what
I said earlier about you know, really being confident and
and effective in the classroom. I think our training is
what's going to help folks feel ready prepared and to
have really a good experience as a substitute teacher. And
if they're having that, they're going to want to continue
that work. And so those economic benefits are through that.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Ca continued work.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
First, first of all, right, like I've picked up a
substitute job, I like it.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
This is something I can continue to earn from. But
more broadly, being.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
A substitute teacher does give you a kind of that
locus of control. Like this week, I can work five days,
you know, and so I'm going to pick up five assignments.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Next week I can only work.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Two days, and so you have that flexibility to kind
of you know, manage your lifestyle and your situation. You know,
maybe you have a spouse in law enforcement or a firefighter,
and so you need to rotate. It's three days this week, I.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Can work in two days next week. So you have
that flexibility. But a lot of.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
You know, flexible jobs don't have that same kind of
economic benefit, right because these substitute positions are paid very
well in the data Wisconsin comparatively speaking, and so it's
just a great way to access that flexible work that
also pays very well and is very meaningful.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
I was just going to ask you that, can you
kind of give a general like dollar amount what teachers
here in Wisconsin as a substitute might be making.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Well, that's a little tricky because there are there is
a lot of variations, but I would say just from
my lens at the national level, I would.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Say it's quite competitive.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
And I think what I also really like about with
Punson is that you know, your state really focuses on
having the right person in the classroom. So you're you know,
you do need an associate's degree to become a substitute teacher,
you do need this training, and I think that your
state has done a great job in kind of recognizing
that when it comes to compensation, wonderful.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah, I love that. I love that. Yeah, and then
just you're doing a great Oh, thank you. Just another
quick question that I had so because I'm curious. So
you know, say you get hired out of school right
to maybe become like a substitute teacher for an eighth
grade class because maybe the teacher is on maternity leave.
So when that time comes to an end, do they
(11:57):
go and reapply maybe for another plus position at that
school or does someone just go and reach out to
different types of schools.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Yeah, that's a great question.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
It really depends on how the school district is managing
their substitute population. So you know, you have districts that
kind of manage that on their own, and so somebody
at the school district is thinking through that whole process
and how the substitutes might navigate it. And then you
have school districts that will partner with someone like Kelly
Education or Teachers on call and we manage that fullyef
(12:28):
for the district.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
And so we have an.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Entire process and system that really empowers the substitute to
go in and map out what their work journey is
going to look like throughout the course of you know,
the months, the year, and so maybe they pick up
that long term assignment. But when you're working with Kelly Education,
you can see if that if it's going to end
(12:51):
and there's another one coming in the pipeline, you can
go ahead and pick that up in advance.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
So there is a way to build.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
You know, we talked a lot about flexibility, but there
is that absolutely a way to build really a full
time substitute teaching career, and a lot of folks like
that because you know, you can really have the impact
on students, but you don't necessarily have to do some
of the other obligations but maybe a full time teacher
might have to do. Sure, and so you definitely have
(13:18):
again that locus of control, which is really important.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
To a lot of folks.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
So we're going to add to this list of doctor
Stephanie Wall hashtag agent because that is what that's all about.
I'll be like, girl, what's my next job? Advocating? Which
is important to advocate. Okay, so, now, what distinctive advantage
does Kelly Education bring to the table that makes it
exceptionally qualified to deliver the substitute teacher training maybe versus
(13:45):
others that are out there.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Great questions is like my favorite question. Again, we did
invent to teaching, you know, trade as an industry, so
we understand what it takes to get the right person
in a class room showing up consistently and moving.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Student learning forward.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Right. We are one of the few organizations that really
emphasizes that learning element. You know, we have a Director
of Learning, which I think speaks volumes to us as
an organization. We know that putting substitutes in the classroom
is about more than just a warm body. It's about
advancing learning. And so I think that position makes us
(14:26):
really the experts in the industry. And then we have
a team of wonderful educators and my department that put
all of that experience.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Kind of pen to paper in creating this training.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
And so you take that experience, that expertise, and then
you package it using the best practices in online and
virtual learning. And so we've created something that's truly digestible
for as firing substitutes. It's truly going to help them
feel prepared and really get them what they need to
be supported intoday's classrooms.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
And we love that.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
The Department of Education in Wisconsin approved US, so we
are official official because that's important as well. We are
one of those state approved courses. And I think just
the last piece that I will add is just that
flexibility right there. There are some options for in person
learning that the state puts out that I think are great,
but if that's not something that you can really commit
(15:20):
to and you're doing this, you know, maybe during nap
time or after bedtime, our course definitely gives you that
flexibility and it's not going to put you to sleep.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
If it's after bedtime, which so much coffee we can
survive on exactly.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Yeah, I think those are the big differentiators for us.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Well, this is just a tremendous Again, another opportunity, especially
for women out there and men too to find an
opportunity to get into the school districts if you're looking
to make you know, an extra income for your family
and you just always have had a passion for inspiring
children stuff that you teaching is definitely where it's at,
(16:02):
doctor Paul. Where can people then contact you in this
learning center.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
So if they go to www.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Dot substitute teachingpathways dot com, you'll see all the information
they can go in and purchase the cores right on
our page, drop it in their little shopping cart, and
get started today if that's what they'd like to do.
We're also posted on the Wisconsin DPI site that's a
little bit easier to find under the Substitute Teaching Licensure
information and so they just click and get started.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Fabulous. I appreciate you reaching out to us as an
honor to have you on our show, and we would
love to have you back on the Mattown Mom Squad again.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
A wonderful well.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Thank you so much, I really appreciate it.
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