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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Twenty five NFL Draft and brought to you by cours Light,
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
And we are back at the Virginia Mason Athletics Center.
We being Jesseman McIntyre, Rob Rang, Myselfie and Furness actually
Ryan running the show for us back at the Elliott
Avenue studios. Do we get Wi Fi back? By the
way they're ash I think so?
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Well.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Actually, you know what, I don't know because I tried
to send a text when I got here to Jackson
and it didn't work.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Are you sure you don't here?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Now?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Are you sure you don't just have a block on
Jackson's phone because you don't want to deal with him?
That it's always a possibility. Although I've got the little things,
not a five G actually actually day la Vega's coming back.
Oh my god, ah, you could certainly have that. I
mean that could be taking the place. No, yeah, we've
we've had some challenges, but you know what, our great
crew between Ashley, Chris Kidd, Anderson Hurst, Jess Mac and Tyre,
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Jackson Feldts, the crew behind the scene has done a
phenomenal job since we've been out here since one o'clock
on Thursday afternoon. So tip of the caps stick taps
all around for all these guys and ladies that have
done a great job for us. We are here today.
It's round four for Day three of the NFL Draft
is underway, and as we sit out here at the
Virginia Mason Athletic Center, the Seahawks will make a pick
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coming up later in this I'm guessing around eleven. I'm
really just don't say anything. I'm not setting you up.
I'm not teeing this up. I'm not very good at math,
so actually you can make fun of me because you
don't normally do that. But yeah, I'm guessing around eleven
o'clock or so. Today we'll have probably in about fifty
to fifty five minutes or so, we should have the
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Seahawks pick in the fourth round. Yeah they're flying today. Yeah,
they're going a little faster. It's the second to last
pick in the fourth round, right after Baltimore. So it's
number thirty five overall, one thirty seven overall, thirty five
in this round. After we hear from Jalen Milroe in
the second we got last night's conversation with him. I'll
get back with Rob because there is a massive run
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going on at one position that was thought to be
really deep. I don't know how deep it is right
now as we get deeper into this fourth round, and
it's a position Seattle might have been looking at. So
we'll talk about that with Rob coming up in a minute.
But last night really a rarity. The Seahawks have only
done it three times now in sixteen years. They drafted
a quarterback, much like they did in twenty twelve. That
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quarterback was drafted in the third round. Of course, it
worked out pretty well with a guy by the name
of Russell Wilson last night. Jalen Milroe, the quarterback that
probably has the most upside, probably the highest ceiling of
any of the quarterbacks in this draft. Maybe an unfinished
product as well in terms of accuracy and mechanics and
some other things, but there is no doubt in his athleticism,
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his arm, strength, and speed, everything he's got going for him.
And he was picked by the Seattle Seahawks yesterday in
that third round, number ninety two overall, and afterwards we
got a chance to talk to the new Seahawk quarterback
Jalen Milroe, who was thrilled to be picked by Seattle.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
So it's definitely a dream come true. You know. The
best thing about it, I would gather with family throughout
this whole process. You know, it's definitely a unique journey
for sure, not knowing where you can go, but it's
all about that right spot. And I know I'm in
the right spot moving forward, right spot. Kind of this
community and people that believe in me, that's all in
on me. You know, I felt that from the jump
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when I visited Seattle, uh for my thirty visit and
being around the coaching staff and then it's a great vibe.
So I just enjoyed my my old journey while I
was there.
Speaker 6 (03:33):
What was your takeaway from that visit?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
What was the experience like?
Speaker 5 (03:37):
So, first of all, I've never been into Seattle Washington.
You know, the previous staff at Washington raved about the
city and you know, talked about it, and so I've
never been to that part of the world. So my
friend visit over there was you know, I took it
all in, uh number one, but also just uh seeing
the facility, seeing who who's all involved, with the coaches,
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that meeting everyone and then also just picking up with
you know, who's gonna be comfortable. I mean, so just
a great visit overall.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Jalen, how did.
Speaker 7 (04:08):
The discussions with the coaching staff go in regard to,
you know, learning about the offense and where they envision
you fitting in.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
Yeah, so no matter we're out select, I'm gonna have
to learn an offense. That's that's for any quarterback, no
matter who you are. And so I know that going
in and also the best you know thing for any
rooking quarterback that a veteran in a room, and so
that's you know awesome just to have that going into
this courtright room and then also just acknowledgements that's that's
behind it. So I'm just so super excited for just
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just a new journey, a new chapter of my life
to being settled.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Jealan, I think that.
Speaker 8 (04:42):
The natural assumption, just given your skill set, given the
depth chart here, given Kobeac's history with Taysom Hill, has
been that you could potentially come in and fill a
role similar to that, what is your uh, what's your
thought on that, what's your willingness to fill.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Kind of that maybe wildcat type role in you out
at least.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
So I'm coming in to learn, you know, learn, grow
and bring nothing but positive vibes to the offense, you know,
and and fulfilling all that that's a necessity with my
role on the team. So you know, of course, once
I get there, I understand my niche for sure. But
you know, I really now I'm competing, you know, no
matter what day it is, no matter how many reps
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I get, competing for an opportunity presents of at the
correct position jealin.
Speaker 7 (05:29):
After starting two years in Alabama, which areas of your
game do you look at as your greatest focus to
improve here coming to Seattle?
Speaker 5 (05:39):
I think I think, of course, you know, throughout my
time frame playing football is always room for improvement. That's
for any player. And so I just know that massing
the game of football, playing sound and key to my reads,
that's what I'm not my best And so I understand that,
and I know that I'm gonna be in the best
situation with this coaching test. So I'm super excited.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
What was last season like at Alabama playing with Kayln
de Borg and and you know it's been taken over
for saving and that change and everything.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
I had so much fun last year. I have no
regrets from last season. And I was surrounded by a
lot of great coaches that you know, so that poured
everything into our into our room, and so that's why
I have no regrets even this past season. But also
just just was enjoying the posts with the new staff.
You know, I was to coach Savings last quarterback and
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coach the board first quarterback at Alabama. So I have
a unique journey as it went to my senior year.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
You did a lot of.
Speaker 6 (06:32):
Shotgun in college and some people actually there's a lot
of under centered. You practice a little bit of senior ball,
like you talk about that and how much that was
part of the transition and learning process.
Speaker 9 (06:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
So I mean throughout my whole time playing football, I've
gone a center. You know, of course rep wise in games.
You know, it's it's limited as as it is to
playing in the NFL and seeing the national stage. But
I've been under center throught my time frame, and so
it went be too much of a crutch, you know,
going into looting. So I'm just prepared for it.
Speaker 8 (07:05):
What was the meeting like with the Seahawks when you
came out here for the thirty visit and what do
you feel like they were trying to learn about you
when they were getting.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
To know you. Yeah, so the Sea I on the
best quarterback in the draft and they emphasized that. And
then also with them getting to know me is you know,
spending time with me, you know, one on one at
the facility and just you know, talking ball as well.
So we just took it as an opportunity to you know,
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get to know me. How have you extended those you
know what drives me all the process when it comes
to preparation, all those different things. You know, I was
able to talk to everyone in the staff about that,
about that.
Speaker 10 (07:44):
What made you think this was the right place, Danileen,
and what made you think that they were.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
In on you?
Speaker 5 (07:50):
Number one? You know, words of affirmation, you know. Number two,
you know, just just the belief system of everyone there.
That's all it takes. You know, you are differently, you
played differently. We have an army behind you, and that's
what I have and so I'm super excited about it,
you know, just just knowing that I'm going into a
culture that's wanting to win, that's one to achieve great
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things and I'm going to bring that as a rookie
and throughout my whole time being in Seattle.
Speaker 6 (08:19):
Do you think you're the best quarterback in the draft
and do you have any message with the teams that
passed on to you today.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
That's as.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Jalen.
Speaker 11 (08:31):
When you were in the pocket and you were asked
to go through your progressions. Obviously you have elite running skills,
but how were you coached and how how did you process? Okay,
if my first isn't there, how much were you encouraged
to then run as opposed to stay in the pocket, No,
go to your second or your third of your checkdown?
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Just kind of talk how you've been.
Speaker 11 (08:52):
Coached to use your athleticism within the construct of a
pass offense.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
So my second packing touch down, get Kentucky wing through
a full progression and we scored a passing touchdown. So
I've done it before, you know, I don't continue to
do it. It's nothing I can't do in the football field.
The things I can prove on absolutely, but it's not
it's nothing I can do on the football field. I've
thrown every type of touchdown, stepping up in the pocket,
throwing the run. I'm going to find progressions. I've thrown
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a check down the next score, I've used my legs,
So you know, looking at it, you know, picking too
much want on the field. I can do it. So
I'm just I said that humbly, you know, not you know,
not over arrogant. It's just more just knowing what I
bring to the table and knowing that I just just
a different dynamic when it comes to being on the
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football field that I know I'm gonna utilize in that field.
Speaker 9 (09:43):
Galen, what did you learn about yourself last year doing
some of the down moments there, like the loss of
Vanderbilt and coming out of that and those sorts of
circumstances that maybe you guys hadn't had to deal with
in in prior seasons there at Alabama.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
So I don't think not so many people can say this,
but I can say this. You know, probably I never
lost a game back to back in my entire life
of playing football. Well, I mentioned that is because of
course you're gonna have failure, You're gonna have lessons Dart
the time fraens and playing football. It is, but it's
out of how you regroup and how you re group
from adversity and My theme of my whole life is
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next play mentality, you know how you know, not leaning
on failures to drive me, you know, And that's something
that's that's been emphasized with my whole time friend playing football,
you know, and so you know, I emphasize that when
it comes to we were playing different games. One game
doesn't lean doesn't lean up to the next game, and
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so the matter is a win, no matters a loss.
It's all how you can regroup and be the best
version yourself so that you can compete at the highest
of it that's necessary so you can win.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
You are you still in Green Bady? Do you stay
there for air?
Speaker 5 (10:51):
Now?
Speaker 6 (10:51):
I'm in Houston jailhen you you played against nick Emmon
Lorey when he was in South Carolina and now as
your teammates.
Speaker 9 (10:57):
What do you remember about facing him game planning for him?
Speaker 5 (11:01):
Yeah? So one thing he's he's utilized all over the
football field. And so when you utilize all over the
football field, that means the special and you at the
player that you are, you know, you know that going
into the week, how good of a player he is,
the fives, he has, the range that he plays with,
and so it's gonna be great to be teammates with him,
you know, and just you know, build together as rookies
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come in doing allever Nea, please we can have the
team out.
Speaker 10 (11:26):
You stayed at the draft in Green Bay throughout the
first round?
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Is that right?
Speaker 5 (11:30):
That's right?
Speaker 9 (11:31):
What what was that experience like?
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Were you upset? Were you mad?
Speaker 1 (11:35):
What?
Speaker 3 (11:35):
What'd you take of that?
Speaker 5 (11:37):
Was? No matter where I was drafted, I started to
come in and prove myself and earn the trust and
respect the guys in the locker room, and so it
wasn't a necessity to hear my name called early on.
Later on, it didn't really matter to me. It was
more to hear my name called because I know that
team is all lay on me and they saw something
to me the other team didn't. So it was all
about opportunities. So it didn't really matter when I was selected.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Did you talk to through this process?
Speaker 5 (12:04):
They're hurt for sure, and what conversations about that's more
of an intimate, you know, dialogue. But as that's my guy,
you know, he's someone that's a supportive of mine and
so you know, it's just something unique about the Chalus.
Speaker 9 (12:19):
For sure, Jilan, if you're breaking down your own game,
being super critical yourself, both positive and negative. What are
your strengths, what are your weaknesses? And and what do
you what do you bring the table here?
Speaker 5 (12:29):
They let take take lists, sex, play on time, and
be me. That's that's the area of growth when it
comes to being me. I know that I'm not one
dimensional at the court opposition. I'm a problem solver. I'm
a student of the game and love football. Man.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Uh let me let me ask Ashley first the first
time you I don't I'm assuming you didn't hear that
last night?
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Correct?
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (12:59):
What what's your first impression of the Seahawks new quarterback?
Speaker 4 (13:02):
I like him a lot.
Speaker 7 (13:03):
His best answer and response was when he talked about
it doesn't matter where I'm drafted, I still have to
come and improve myself.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I love that mentality because there's a that's a guy
that two years ago, Rob two years ago would have
been probably a guy that's that was thought of potentially
being a first round pick. Yeah, right, first round talent exactly.
Speaker 12 (13:25):
And that's the thing is that there was you know,
with moving on from Nick Saban and his coaching staff
to Kailin de Boor, there was a thought, Okay, well,
That's why I was such a cool thing to be
interviewing with Nick Sheridan a moment ago, you know, or
a couple I guess an hour ago now where who
was of course the offense coordinated this past season for
Alabama and got to see Jaylen Monroe in person, see
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his development. You know, that to me was one of
the most fascinating aspects about this is that with Kaylen
de Bor going to Alabama and knowing the way that
Kaylen de Bor and his staff helped Michael Pennix Junior
become such an established quarterback, a very accurate, savvy quarterback.
After there was some talk before early in his career
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that this is a guy who's an athlete, but he's
not necessarily a future NFL quarterback. That there was talk that,
you know, Milroe, he could take off now. And there
were elements of his play that did improve. There were
also some things I thought they kind of stunted his
growth because this is a you know, as as Milroe said,
you know, you don't ask a zebra to be a
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dog basically, you know, I mean, he is a guy
that has a very unique skill set and if you
are going to try a pigeonhole and then make him
play a different type of a system. Then I think
that's going to take some time there.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
And you know, h made the point in.
Speaker 12 (14:43):
Yesterday's show about the fact that that Milroe had four
different offensive coordinators over his time at Alabama. This is
a guy that just needs a little bit of continuity
to really be able to unleash his potential. And so
I'm a sided to see him come to Seattle and
be given that opportunity to to just kind of learn
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from the sideline a little bit. Maybe there's a package
there where, especially at the goal line or in red
zones or goal line or or in short yard situations
where you take advantage of his ability as a as
a runner, as a as a passer, but also just
not expect him to come in and play immediately. And
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so to me, that again, that's one of the most
intriguing things about him. There there's no pressure. You come here,
you learn and allow your natural talent to really blossom,
as opposed to some of these quarterbacks that were drafted
in the first round or whatever. To Ashley's point, you know,
they're drafted so early that they're the pressure is intense.
You have to get on the field to justify where
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your team selected you. And that's one of the reasons
why you see so many quarterbacks who who you know,
who bust early because they just struggle with a level
of expectation and they're just not quite ready. This guy
has already had to with expectations playing at Alabama, and
again he's coming to a system here that I think
is his quarterback friendly. Kyle or excuse me, Klink Kuback
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has proven his ability to develop quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Over his career.
Speaker 12 (16:13):
And it also he's going to be playing behind some
veteran quarterbacks who had taken their lumps, and Sam Darnold
knows that as well as anybody. Drew Locke knows that
as well as anybody. And also they are very different
type of skill sets. So when the Seahawks do want
to have a running presence of quarterback, then they've got
arguably the most athletic quarterback in this draft class ready
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waiting in the wings.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Rob rang Ian for Nass, Jessin McIntyre, Ashley Ryan, all
with you this morning. It's ten twenty two on a
Saturday morning, Day three of the NFL Draft, rounds four
through seven. Round four, well underway. Seahawks are ten picks
away from making their first selection of day three. We'll
have that for you very soon. Greg Bell is here,
Let's do this. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back.
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Maybe we'll grab Captain Bell, throw him on for a second.
Get and I want to get Rob's thoughts too. We'll
get Greg's thoughts on what the Seahawks may be doing
coming up here in a few picks, But Greg, before
we get before we get to that point, Rob will
also kind of lean on you. I said there was
a position run. There's now been two big position runs
that the Seahawks were probably looking at in this round four.
So we'll get your thoughts on running back and edge rushers,
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which all of a sudden are flying off the board
in this fourth round. We'll do that next nine three
point three KJFM.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Now back to the Virginia Mason Athletics Center and the
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Speaker 3 (17:43):
FAM.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
All right, we're back at the Virginia Mason Athletic Center.
We now being Greg Bell joining us along with Rob rang, Ianfiness,
Jasmin McIntyre, Ashley, Ryan Gang is all here for a
little Saturday breakfast at the draft as we've been doing
this for many many years. Rob Rang, you and I
hanging out here a little turkey sausage and hanging out
and having fun. Seahawk PR staff treats us very well.
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Over these few days. We put on lots of pounds
and regret every second of it. Later next week when
we look at the ways of the scale before we
bring Greg in in preview kind of what's going to happen.
Big run on a couple position groups roped so far
in this in this fourth round.
Speaker 12 (18:19):
Yeah, we have seen huge runs at the running back
and edge rusher positions, definitely the If the Seahawks are
looking to address those positions, then they're gonna want to.
I think jump in here pretty quickly and select that
one of my favorite players at running back that is
still available would be Jordan James. We talked about Oregon before.
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This is a guy that didn't run quite as well
in the forty yard dash. I think it's some they
were expecting, but his lateral agility and his vision I
think are make him a really good fit in a
wide zone blocking scheam like the one the Seahawks are employing.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
I'm gonna come back to you a second for wide
receivers too, because I think that that is probably their
biggest need right now. Roster wise, Greg Bell, how are
you good morning, Siring. Yeah, we've seen you more than
my wife. Well, I don't even know if my wife's
seen me in the last three days. So it's okay.
This is a labor love this. I always I don't
take it for God. I walked in this morning and
you know, you walk through the halls, this great building here,
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and I'm like, yeah, we're covering the NFL Draft in
the Seahawks quarters. It's not a bad it's not a
bad gig. So and especially when you can leave it
noon or one like I can't today.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Oh okay, thank you for that.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
I know, I know you two guys can't say. First
time in the fifteen sixteen years, I've been able to
do that. So I'm okay, what do you think so far?
Speaker 13 (19:34):
It's the people's choice draft, and it's a I mean,
if they did ran a popularity contest, this might be
one of the most popular Seahawks drafts. The fans' choices,
go address that offensive line, go get a guard, Well
they did in the first round. They get a quarterback
only three times in John Schneider's sixteen years. Can we
say they drafted a quarterback and they drafted one who's
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very interesting?
Speaker 3 (19:58):
They make it.
Speaker 13 (19:59):
Frankly, it makes a team interesting. Not that they were
disinteresting and people weren't gonna pay attention anyway, but let's
face it, they are a more interesting team with a
more interesting preseason and off season with Jyaln Milroe.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
How are they gonna use them? Are they gonna give
him a package of plays? Really interesting?
Speaker 13 (20:15):
Last late last night, Mike McDonald said, well, Sam how
Sam excuse me, Sam Donald.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Sam Howe's gonna get traded any second that someone offers
for him.
Speaker 13 (20:24):
But Sam Donald is going to play by far and away,
not more than ninety percent of the snaps. He didn't
say one hundred's that's.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Where we came with that ten percent and was bringing
up earlier rop, Yeah, it's.
Speaker 13 (20:36):
Been one hundred around here for how many since Russell
Wilson became the starter? It has been one hundred percent
of the time unless the quarterback was injured, that the
starter got one hundred percent of the red.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
There's never been a quarterback I don't want to say controversy,
but even competition here, there's.
Speaker 13 (20:48):
Never been a carved out role in the playbook for
a second quarterback. He yeah, never, No, there aren't. There
is now And Mike McDonald made it clear that they
are gonna put Milroe in the spots in the schemes,
in the plays that he is best at what's he
best out of course, running and getting outside and challenging
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ed rushers and making defenders choose between defending passes and run.
There are gonna be that. It could be five plays
in some games, but there will be plays in the
playbook this year and spots in the game plan for
Jalen Milroe. And you can't say that about Drew Locke.
You couldn't say that about Gino Smith when he was
the backup to Russell Wilson. You couldn't say that about Tavares.
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Jackson's backups go back a generation.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
And you can't say that at the quarterback position. And
rob the team.
Speaker 13 (21:39):
Became more interesting last night, and in Mike McDonald's mind,
harder to defend, and as a defensive minded head coach,
that's what he wants a quarterback.
Speaker 12 (21:48):
Yeah, And that was one of the things that I
thought was fascinating when Mike McDonald was kind of talking
about Milroe and just how danger or how difficult it
is from a defensive perspective to try to just prepare
against the quarterback that has that kind of athletic a building.
He kind of talked about that, you know, you can
be playing perfect defense, you know, just based on the
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formation what the offense is likely going to try to do,
and you are in position to stop that. But when
you have a quarterback that is as dynamic with the
ball in his hands as any of these you know,
these multi dimensional quarterbacks that are just taking over in
the NFL, then it just it's it's impossible. It's going
to be incredibly frustrating as a as a defensive mind
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like Mike McDonald to just see a uh, you know,
a Jaden Daniels run around, a Kyler Murray run around
and make plays, you know, the same way that Russell
Wilson should do that for the Seahawks so many times,
you know. And that's the thing is that Jalen Milroe
isn't going to just run around. He is going to
run and then break off a sixty yard touchdown. And
it's that type of explosive playmaking ability they're frankly, the
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Seahawks have lacked for years now.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
And he'll run over your linebacker.
Speaker 13 (22:56):
That He Mike McDonald last night and did not shy
away from comparing. Jalen Mill wrote without an NFL practice
yet to Lamar Jackson. Yeah, we asked, Lamar, is your
experience in Baltimore with Lamar Jackson part of the thinking
that Miller?
Speaker 3 (23:12):
He said, yeah, Yeah. The short answer is yes.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Well he's sitting there and practice every day, going against
this guy and the quarterback that makes you miss. I
think one of the things that jumped out at me,
you know when you're talking. When I was thinking about
it last night, you know prime Russ, like prime Russ,
and Russ's absolute, you know, the pinnacle of his career
when he was at his most athletic, fast, comfortable confidence.
You know, pocket passer, Russ would run around before he
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would run forward. Sure he was trying to throw. And
the thing that was interesting with Russ is you know
Russ was put together. I'm trying to think who it was.
Maybe his second to last year towards the end of
his career. Here and Greg, you remember as we were
down in San Francisco at Levi Stadium and he scrambled
to his right because we're looking down to our left.
It was a far side of the stadium. I remember
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this play. He scrambled to his right, came back to
the left, and then saw Green hit a switch. Because
people are saying, Oh, he's lost a step, he's he's overweight,
he's this or that. No, man, he hit a switch,
went and he took on its a d N that
was kind of that had kind of come across, put
his shoulder and knocked the guy out of the game.
(24:22):
I forget who it was, and just trucked the guy
after beating another guy on the outside. And I think
in the back of my mind you and I might
have even talked about it. That's like, why doesn't he
do that more?
Speaker 5 (24:34):
You know?
Speaker 2 (24:34):
But I think with Russ it was so he was
so uber focused on being a pocket passer and not
falling into a stereotype of a running quarterback, and yet
he had that ability when he wanted to. And that
was again that wasn't even primetime Russ. You have a
guy like Milrow that comes in and you said he
can he'll truck a linebacker, right Rob, Like he'll he'll
(24:55):
truck a linebacker, not think twice about it. God forbid,
you're a d be and you see that guy coming downhill, like,
that's not what you're gonna want to see. The question
is can they improve his accuracy? Can they improve his timing?
Can they improve the mechanics as you mentioned last night?
I think the answer is yes, because there's no rush
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when I meant no rush.
Speaker 13 (25:18):
When I mentioned Thursday night Jalen Milroe being on their radar,
and I was told of the combine how interested the
Seahawks were about him for once, they didn't.
Speaker 10 (25:27):
They weren't leading me astray. They and you seem to
recoil at.
Speaker 13 (25:34):
The thought of Jalen Milroe here and I had to
go leave because of the press conference starting.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
But I could see the look on his face, like, Bell,
what are you talking about? But it's not because of
the entirety of the quarterback position now. He's not ready
to do that.
Speaker 13 (25:49):
He's got a couple of years to be able to
develop into that. It's because of the singular set that
they could put in. I asked last night Mike McDonald
about a Taysom Hill compared, and he said, no, no, no,
this isn't Taysom Hill.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
He's not an h back. He's not a fullback.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
He's not a guy we're gonna fight end that's gonna
catch the ball.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
He's not that. No, don't. He is a quarterback through
and through is what McDonald said.
Speaker 13 (26:13):
But my point of asking about Taysom Hill is will
Kubiak have a select bunch of plays, half a dozen
dozen plays in a playbook and a game plan for it?
And the answers yes and again, it makes the team
harder to defend. It makes a defensive coordinator and staff
have to game plan for that. You're not gonna have
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to game plan the same way with Sam Donald as
you are for Jalen Milroe. If you've seen Jalon Milroe
come in the game five times in the previous week,
and if you're doing that, you're harder to defend. This
is a more dynamic offense simply because Jalen Miller is
on the roster, and we'll see how they actually how
much they use him.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Let me do this, Ash let's take a quick three
minute time out. Great, can you stick around for a
seconds because by the time we come back will be
what two picks away. This is where I like to
have fun. This is where we put n time. You've
nailed this, you can give me a we'll see it.
Give it. He loves what I did.
Speaker 10 (27:05):
What's our average drop about once once a decade?
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Yeah, got no, No, we've actually there's been more than
one occasion when it's like dahn, we just talked about
that guy an Now we ago on day three and
that's pig. The Seahawks are at thirty five, the Chiefs
at thirty one in this round are on the clocks.
We'll take a quick break, come back, have the Seahawks
first pick of day three, thirty five. Overall, you'll hear
that live right here in ninety three point three kJ FM.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
By R and R Foundation specialist the Queen Anne deerh
And by Fox thirteen on Sports Radio ninety three point
three kJ R FM.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Just when I want those types of cues on Monday,
starting Monday, where I mean extremely specific actually is on it.
I mean I asked her how far back two minutes
and four seconds? Sin so I could start my clock
and plan my day accordingly. Just want to make sure
you're ready to Well, that's the kind of efficiency we
have in the morning on the morning show at ninety
three pos.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Actually, they don't know what it is at seven am.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
They don't know to be sharper than everybody else.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Right, kind of weird because when I've done stuff and
been done hits and talk to those guys in the morning,
it doesn't always feel that accurate. But boy, it sure
feels accurate today.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Well, that's because we have you one, so we can
mail it in for a little bit.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Wait a second, that's my policy. That's where we learned it.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
You can't take that for me.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Uh Ian Ferness, Rob Rang and Ashley Ryan. Back to
the studio. Is Jessman McIntyre's here and Captain Bill greg
Bell from the News Tribune, our Seahawk Insider is here
with us as well. At the Virginia Mason Athletic Center,
the Chiefs pick is being announced right now. Jalen, there's
another one, damn it, Jalen Royals Utah States, go ahead
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and scratch that one off the list. What did I
tell Robert one hundred percent you were gonna tell me
Jalen Royals for the Seahawks at thirty five, right.
Speaker 12 (28:47):
Yeah, he was a player that I definitely was very
intrigued by, just because of the fact that he does
have not only receiver ability, but return skills as well.
Utah State is, of course the program that has produced
a couple of different very good Seahawks, obviously Bobby Wagoner,
but Robert Turban as well, and so that's a program
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that has been good to Seattle. And so to see
them go Royals going to the Kansasy Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes,
that makes them better. Yeah, exactly, You're gonna see this
guy's ability to create after the catch something I think
that the Seahawks are lacking. Royals will be able to
do that for Patrick Mahomes and they can't see Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
All right, So next up, the Raiders are on the clock.
Is this, well, Denver's on the clock, and then the
Raiders again, Greg, We've talked about the Shadoor Sanders thing
for three days now, and you're starting to run out
of teams and opportunities. Can you see a fit behind
Geno Smith with Pete Carroll there well as a backup?
Speaker 10 (29:44):
I can, but it really depends on when. It's almost
as if the league.
Speaker 13 (29:49):
I'm not accusing him of this, but it seems as
if they've colluded to say, how long are we gonna
make him pay a penance for what he did pre draft,
for the things of sandbag and interviews with com in
pre draft meetings with teams, and the teams he didn't
want to play for, he just didn't try in the interviews,
reportedly for his father at times flat out saying I
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only want to coach an NFL, but I can coach
my son. The specter of Dion Sanders coming with his
son and being a part of that, whatever that part
of that would be. There are teams who frankly obviously
don't want any part of that, and we talked off air,
but you think look at the team like the Steelers,
who obviously my Steelers and I still have a lot
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of ties back in Pittsburgh, a friends and close to
the team.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
They obviously need a quarterback in the future.
Speaker 13 (30:38):
Mike Tomlin was over the top talking about Shador Sanders
before the draft, more than he usually talks about any
singular player in the college draft. And the Steelers have
had what five pit four picks now and they haven't
had even a sniff of Shador Sanders. So it's obvious
that the league, you do it the league's way, no
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matter noingular college player. Family history, legacy is bigger than
how the league does it, and the league has a
way of doing it. And they were turned off by
the way shod Or Sanders did it, obviously, And that
is more than the talent, more than the potential. And
it's not gonna be the Seahawks.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
We know that.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Then picking Jalen Miller.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Don't think they don't think they'll have six quarterbacks on
the roster. Yeah, that's people forget that they have five
quarterbacks on the roster.
Speaker 13 (31:27):
Jared Allen who may not see in a snap again
and would have to go through waivers to the practice squad.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
They will trade Sam Howe.
Speaker 13 (31:34):
The question is when will the team be willing to
give what I think would have to be a conditional pick.
I know some people are saying a pick late seventh pick,
seventh round this year. Why would another team give away
a draft pick without seeing what the playing time, what
what Sam How's ability will be to play, and what
is the final year of his contract? So to me,
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it's a conditional twenty twenty six pick.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
When you do, yeah, it's gonna be a twenty twenty
five pick.
Speaker 13 (31:59):
And when you trade it. Why would you trade a
conditional pick on the day of the twenty twenty five draft.
So I think that's going to come after the draft,
when they settle out undrafted free agents and whatnot.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Yeah, I don't think there's any doubt about that. I mean,
Jalen Hall is QB four right now in a sense,
depending away, how you want to look at Sam Howell,
and that's just a training camp arm. If that probably
you know mini camp arm. However you want to look
at those things.
Speaker 13 (32:25):
The question that becomes that they put three on the
active roster during the season, which they've rarely done.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
And the answer right now is yes, it's gonna be yes,
because they have Drew Locke.
Speaker 13 (32:32):
For two years, five million dollars and in the experience
and that in the cache in the locker room. Of course,
Sam Donold's a starter. And yeah, Milroe your draft so
that you can have him available and train him.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Broncos took Q Robinson, an edge rusher out of Alabama.
That's pick number thirty two to one to thirty four
overall Raiders pick is in there at thirty three, then
Baltimore and then Seattle.
Speaker 13 (32:56):
So we've talked about wide receiver, Yeah, and Rob, I
don't think it would be an this round. But what
about Efton Chisholm from Eastern Washington would be the first
wide receiver from the leagues to go since Cooper Cup
in twenty seventeen.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
What round do you think he could go and would
that be a Seahawks.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
F I think that he's later.
Speaker 12 (33:13):
I think that we're talking more like seventh round, maybe
even falls out of the draft.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
But he's a good player.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
He's just you know, he's a.
Speaker 12 (33:20):
He's a guy that is almost like a running back
more than a wide receiver. You know, he is quick
and he's powerful. He does create after the catch, but
he ran in the high four sixes at the at
his forty yards or in the forty yard dash, and
that is a time that I think most NFL teams
are are just not going to, you know, value what
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he does well enough to overlook that lack of speed.
But at the same time, he catches the ball. He's
highly competitive. He's a special teams guy. He is he
is the kind of guy that you want. He just
there's a reason why he wound up going to Eastern
Washington because this is a really good player. He just
doesn't have NFL.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
So what makes sense for Seattle two picks from now?
Speaker 12 (34:04):
For me, again, there's a couple of wide receivers I
think make an awful lot of sense because again I
think that this is.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Well, there's not a lot of X guys.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
I would say, well, there's a few.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
There's a few.
Speaker 12 (34:14):
Helic Alu Manor from Stanford is a player again that
I talked about last night. Yeah, I'm still very intrigued
by Tory Horton from Colorado State again is another one
that I'm excited by. I was intrigued by the comments
and Mike McDonald, you know, and just continually uh, you know,
mentioning the idea of Elijah Royo is almost playing kind
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of that X role as well as what he was
was saying. And so maybe the already view that X
receiver as playing as somebody that's on their roster. I
still think regardless of what position they play, I still
think you need more speed. And so a couple of
other receivers that have elite speed. Isaiah Bond from Texas,
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Elijah Badger from Florida, h KeAndre Lambert Smith from Auburn.
Those are guys that again, these are all players that
are in the at least the four fours, in some
cases for threes. One of my absolutely favorite running backs
in this class. I mentioned Jordan James before.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Ian.
Speaker 12 (35:13):
You and I are talking out there a moment ago
about some of the positional runs that we have seen.
The running backs are flying off the board at this point.
Jordan James, frankly is a better running back than at
least three or four of the backs that have come
off the board so far in the fourth round. So
if you want to look smart, and I think the
Seahawks has done a terrific job so far this draft
of getting guys not only they're good players, not only
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have a great deal upside, but also getting players at
a position of value, then I think that Jordan.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
James would make some sense.
Speaker 12 (35:42):
And then again, I know there's a lot Sawk fans
out there that all they care about is just getting
more offensive lineman Marcus Bow from Purdue, Jalen Rivers from Miami,
Bryce Cable Doo from Kansas. Who's that, Yeah, he's a
guy that they brought in here for a visit. He
has the you know, very good agility for a big
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sixty five, three hundred pound offensive lineman. And Kansas is
starting to churn out offensive lineman now. So we saw
the forty nine ers get a big hit with Dominic
Pooney a year ago in the middle rounds at the
guard position, so he might be someday.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
It's interesting.
Speaker 12 (36:20):
One of my favorite interior offensive linemen in this class
is Joshua Gray from Oregon State.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
He is available.
Speaker 12 (36:26):
He was a five year starter for the Beavers and
he had played the left tackle but also moved inside
to play.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Center guard, right center.
Speaker 12 (36:35):
Yeah, he'll be an interior offensive lineman in the NFL.
But his I thought that he was terrific at his
pro day workout, and he is a guy that I
think would would make some sense as well. And then again,
the cornerback position is one that I'm still very intrigued by.
Denzel Burke from Ohio State, Dorian Strong from Virginia Tech,
Tommy Hill, if it was Pete Carroll, and actually the
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Raiders are gonna be on the board here in a second,
I do think that, oh, sorry, they just took the
defensive tackle Tonka Hemingway, who plays like his name should
be Tonka. He's just a big, physical kind of guy
in the interior. But again, Tommy Hill is a guy
who's two hundred and fifteen pounds playing corner. So again
that the size, physicality, special teams ability, I think would
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be intriguing to them. And one of my favorite players
that I'm still stunned is available out there is Joshua
Farmer from Florida State. If you want to find a guy.
The Seahawks unfortunately released Cameron Young, a defensive tackle from
Mississippi State that we never actually got to see play
really for the Seahawks due to medical concerns. Here, Joshua
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Farmer to me is a very similar player and that
he is a traditional nose guard who's a tough guy,
and so I think that he would be not a
guy who didn't get a lot of sacks. But at
the same time, if you were looking for that Jonathan
Hankins kind of a replacement at the nose guard position,
Joshua Farmer from Florida State Jay Toya from UCLA both
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would make an awful lot of suns.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Serious Titans in Baltimore made a trade. So Tennessee, Uh, well,
there you go, Tennessee, just took one of the guys
you were just talking about, the wide receiver out of
Stamford El like im Manner, and so do you think
that they might have jumped in front just to get
him over Seattle?
Speaker 12 (38:17):
Do you think I think that's a possibility, You know,
I mean, Aum Manner is a he's a good player.
Speaker 5 (38:22):
He just he is.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
He doesn't settles on the clock, by the way, we
should just for our listeners, Seattle is on the clock,
and as soon as they go up to make the pick,
we will go to that live Go ahead, Rob.
Speaker 12 (38:31):
Sorry, you know that that is a possibility here that
the Iyeu Manner may have been the guy that they
were looking for. And I don't I don't know that
to be true. I just think that he plays with
the physicality. He's got a good release for a guy
who is six foot one and a half and two
hundred and ten pounds. And again, one of the things
I liked most about him is that when the ball
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was in the air, he was one of those receivers,
a big receiver who played big. That was always one
of the frustrations I had with DK cap is that
if you're still big and strong, then damn it, go
up and get the ball.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
And I am in and does that?
Speaker 5 (39:06):
He just has it?
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Was Canadian man, what do you want? Of course?
Speaker 3 (39:09):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
I probably brawn guys on the bench in Montreal.
Speaker 12 (39:12):
Yep, exactly. He put some maple syrup on it. He
could catch anything out there. I mean so again, one
of the receivers that I really liked in this class.
I thought he wasn't surrounded by much talent at Stanford,
and yet he was the guy for them gaming game
out and so.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
I think that he would have made some sense.
Speaker 12 (39:29):
Again, though, if you're going to see another wide receiver
come off the board here soon, I would expect to harton.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
We got a trade, Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
I was trying.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
I was trying to read the Chuck Powell air traffic controller.
Air traffic controller Seattle has traded their pick here in
the fourth round to the Chuck. Do you know what
the New England A Patriots. Okay, we'll try to get
the details for it. In a second. The Seahawks have
made a trade. They've traded out of the fourth round
with the New England Patriots.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
The sixth round.
Speaker 13 (40:01):
They don't have a sixth round pick, okay, so there
was probably a package of moving down into the fifth
in the fifth and get a sixth That makes sense.
So they'll keep the nine total picks and probably get
a sixth instead.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Of using it.
Speaker 13 (40:13):
Right, And it could be because they just lost the
wide receiver that they were going to take. It's pout
ahead of them.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
I wouldn't be surprised at all.
Speaker 3 (40:20):
As soon as that happens.
Speaker 13 (40:21):
That's when you often see trade downs because somebody traded
up unexpected. The Titans and the Seahawks have a great relationship.
They talked about that. Yeah, going back to last year
in the summer practices.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
Here's the so Seattle picks up the fifth round pick
one four and the seventh round pick two thirty eighth,
so they have three picks in the seventh round. They
get an additional fifth round pick that gives them three
right in the fifth round for Seattle in exchange for
that fourth round pick they just traded to the Tennessee Titan.
So Seattle goes back to having ten total draft picks
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as of now, ten total draft picks, including three coming
up in the fifth rount go ahead, Greg, your time,
the relationship, not just relationship, but also maybe reading the
tea leaves in Tennessee, knowing what Seattle's thinking.
Speaker 13 (41:07):
Yeah, and obviously it's it's sniffs that they were gonna
take the Stanford Wide receiver until the Titans traded up
in front of him.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
And they'll never hear that. By the way, we got
to we wanted.
Speaker 13 (41:16):
But so when you only have five minutes to pick,
instead of throwing something together as a plan B that
you didn't think you had to use until right before
your spot, then you trade down.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Check Chuck, just go grab that Just's head several So
I think that's it.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
I think that's what's happened there.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
Well, just Chucks. Chuck's kind of he's able. We're on
the fly. Here's a beautiful thing about live radio. All right,
what he got for us?
Speaker 4 (41:34):
I'm just gonna let you know. It's just seven spots down,
so they'll be picking again really soon.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
I think maybe you guys nailed it.
Speaker 4 (41:41):
I think maybe their guy got taken and they let's
make a quick adjustment, give ourselves some time to think,
and also pick up that tenth pick that we traded.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
What Greg said too, right, like you. That's when you
see the picks. May somebody jumps ahead of you, especially
now in these middle rounds, you're like, Okay, well let's
go ahead and bop down. If that was the guy
we wanted the next to whoever the next guy you're
it is, you probably haven't figured out, like we can
get that guy.
Speaker 4 (42:03):
You know how angry you get, even in a fantasy
draft when somebody know what I was thinking. Can you
imagine what John's thinking?
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Okay, you know what. I'm glad you brought that up.
I'm glad you brought that up because I think this
is something where people can relate if you put and
you know, I know, at least on our show about
eighty percent of our listeners or fantasy football players, and yeah,
you're sitting there in late August and the guy jumps
up and he takes the backup tight end for whatever
team that you think you were the smartest guy in
the world to have in the in the ninth round
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of the draft, and you're pissed off of your buddy
for the next week. I think I said something about
andrews Hurst mother.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
If I remember back to our.
Speaker 10 (42:38):
Fantasy draft that we had, and I didn't mean it,
but I think it came out.
Speaker 3 (42:42):
I think it was just a natural reaction.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
Oh that is good.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
All right.
Speaker 13 (42:45):
So this is the guess how many trades involving draft
picks this now makes for John Schneider in sixteen drafts and.
Speaker 3 (42:52):
He guesses one hundred forty.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
Okay, this is the fortieth.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
The fortieth trade one is rarely that he rarely is
moving up, yeah in this draft.
Speaker 13 (43:04):
But the fortieth trade in sixteen drafts, this is what
he does. So he still has the nine picks, He's
seven picks later than he was earlier.
Speaker 12 (43:11):
Go ahead, Rob, Yeah, well just wait wait, take another
defensive player. Yeah, well the Patriots came. They trade Joshua Farmer,
and so that's the thing. It's like, so two of
the players I just kind of we've been talking about that.
I thought, were you know, really starting to qualify as
steals at this point in the draft. Uh, you know,
Farmer being another one. So I am Manor and Farmer, Look,
I like Seattle moving down to you kind of just
(43:33):
recalibrate your options here. As Chuck talked about, it's only
seven picks are moving down. But that's the thing is that, uh,
these are seven picks that that you are starting to
go from the guys that are going to be steals
to the guys that are going to be you know,
basically at I think at their highest point are going
to be backup players farmer to me, I you man
or to me had some starting upside in the future.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
Okay, So this is what it is, Chuck?
Speaker 1 (43:57):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (43:57):
You know? This is the draft miss Christmas present to
you from John Schneider is basically you're going to have
somewhere around five to six picks during your segments starting
at noon today. Yeah, I'm gonna have one Marry draft
miss to you from John Schneider in the Seattle Seahawks
to recap what Chuck said. So pick number six in
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the fifth round is what they just acquired from New England.
That'll be coming up very soon. We'll take a break
here before the top of the hour. Then pick number
thirty six and thirty nine in the fifth round. So
three fifth round picks nothing as of now in the
sixth round.
Speaker 13 (44:31):
Correct, which makes you think they're probably going to trade
down on that fifth, get into the sixth and perhaps get.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
A seventh because they want Chuck to have more stuff
to do between twelve and three, so right now, three
in the fifth and three in the seventh, so six
remaining picks. As it stands here at ten fifty seven
in the morning on Saturday morning.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
It's white Elephant exchange time. Right now.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
People are just like, I don't want this, I want that. No, somebody,
somebody just scored. They got the Crown Royal somehow. That
was like the one good gift under the of the tree,
and you're trying to hold onto it. I'm going to
trade the the homemade potholders for your Crown Royal. It's
been traded twice. Can't do that anymore, all right, that's
check pal, he's coming up an hour. Greg's here, Rob's here,
will take a quick break, come back with more. Ninety
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three point three KJFM