February 18, 2025 • 30 mins
Meet Allison & Easton, they live in a haunted house! Also something very unusual is buried in the backyard!!!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to another episode of Paranormalish. On this episode, I'm
talking to a couple. Her name's Alison, his name's Easton,
and they have a couple of things going on, but
I guess the main thing is they live in a
house that's haunted. Now they seem they seem to enjoy
it for the most part, you know, So that's the
main thing. And also they recently went to the Stanley
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Hotel in Estes Park, Colorado, the famous haunted Stanley Hotel,
and they've.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Got some stories about that as well. But here we go.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I called this episode Alison and Easton live in a
haunted house Jojo on the radio paranormal and normal. Okay,
welcome to another episode of Paranormalish. I'm so pumped for
this one. Easton and Alison.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
What's up you guys?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Hey, I'm doing awesome. I guess we should explain how
we know each other.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
We work.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
This is not our main job, obviously doing a podcast
about ghosts, although I wish you were times. But Easton
and I work at iHeartRadio in Los Angeles or in Burbank.
I do a radio show and Easton works on several
radio shows and podcasts and all this stuff. I don't
know if you want to run through them, but eighteen
to forty for starters, yeah, American Top forty is Ryan Seacrest.
We count down the biggest hits of the week, Yes,
(01:16):
you do, the iHeart Radio Countdown with Jojo Yay, and
then any good podcast you've ever heard. I have my
hand and I'll just leave it at that, right, And Allison,
how'd you guys? I mean a little bit about yourself
because I met you through Easton.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Obviously, I'm Alison and Easton's lovely wife. We've been for
INDs since they were eighteen. We remat when we moved
to Los Angeles, and we were married seven years ago. Yeah,
we both have paranormal stuff. I think I might be
a little bit more into it than Easton.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
But you guys, now, you guys seem like you were
meant for each other. You really do great.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
It is how we feel too. I think that's always
a good sign.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
It really is. All right.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
So, obviously I have an obsession with the paranormal, and clearly,
like Alison just said, they have not only an obsession, certainly, Allison,
but you have these encounters and I've been on a
mission to get you guys in here, and for one
reason or another, it took a while to make this
thing happen. But I'm glad we waited until now because
of the Stanley Hotel, which we'll start off with you
guys as we taped this podcast just about I don't know,
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within the.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Last two weeks, three weeks, whatever it was.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Just recently you went to stay at the Stanley Hotel,
which is infamous for Stephen King's you know, encounter which
turned into The Shining. Where do you want to start
at with the Stanley Hotel, So.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
We explain a little bit about it. A lot of
people think the Stanley Hotel was where The Shining was filmed.
It was not. I think it's actually much spookier. Stephen
King stayed there on a vacation with his wife at
the end of the season. There was no other guests
in the hotel at the time, and he had this
really scary nightmare and just a very weird feeling throughout
the whole experience that inspired him to write The Shining.
So the hotel in The Shining is based on the
Stanley Hotel and it's real history, which I think is
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really cool. Wow.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I think it's better than being filmed there. I think
this is where the real in my head, where the
real shining is, where it happened, you know.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
And it's great because the Stanley's leaned into it. They
since planted a hedge of age. They have like a
ghost tour. It's so funny. They totally like know their market.
I think we do.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Easton.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
You sent me a couple of notes and you guys
stayed in the Lord dun Raven suite.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Yeah, she is. What's what's the backstory on that suite?
Speaker 4 (03:08):
We were going coming to Colorado for a different reason.
We're going to go to a themed Mexican restaurant and
I this is another story that yeah, that's another podcast.
But we we were like, oh well, let's let's go
stay in Estes Park for a night and see the Stanley.
So I booked the room and I said in the notes,
give me your spookiest room. And they called me and
they're like, we have a lot of options for you.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Then you had to do the upsell.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Yeah yeah, I mean it worked. I paid a lot
of extra for there. It was the room that's it's
not like the nicest room, but it has the most
activity it's the Lord dun Raven Suite.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
To be the most haunted room in the whole haunted hotel.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Yes, and Lord Dunraven was a guy that lived on
the land before the hotel was built, and he like
hunted the elk into near extinction. Bad dude. Nobody liked him,
but his spirit seems to hang around this room. So
we're like, well, yes, sign us up, let's go stay
in that room.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
What room number was it? Do you recall four?
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Ten or ten or ten? I'm writing that down there.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Yeah, it's in what was originally the attic and it's
directly under the bell tower, which was really exciting in
the morning to hear that going off right.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Really woh okay? I mean in terms of like amenities,
I mean the room has like the ceilings made of
like sunken ship wood or something like that.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Like, wait, they redid the room, so the ceiling is
wood from a reclaimed sunken ship. When we walked in,
so we didn't read anything about the room. I wanted
to go in not knowing or having any ideas ahead
of time and just sort of see if anything happened.
And right away we thought the weirdest thing was a
very strange little closet that was in the bathroom the
elevators like directly on the other side. It's just a
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weird place for a closet. And we found out later
that that's the upper center of the bazaarre, that in
a corner near the bed or the two areas that
are supposed to be the most haunted, and that's where
we experienced bizarre things happening. So that seems to be
if you go stay there, check out the closet.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
God, I love this stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
By the way, before we go any further, I've stayed
at this Stanley hotel one time, and a friend of
a friend of ours, Miles, who also works at our
her radio, he stayed there as well, but he stayed
there's two hotels. There's the main building, which is where
this you're where you stayed at. Then there's the building
right next to it, which I forget what that's called,
but it's uh.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
The main building is the lodge, and I can't recall
the name of the other building, but that was actually built.
The Stanley was built to be a guest house. So
f f O Stanley was Yeah, he had tuberculosis. He
was dying so he moved to Colorado to Esdy's Park
because they were just basically him and his wife are
trying to find a nice place for him to die.
And he had tuberculosis. And what they didn't know back
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then is if you have less oxygen in your lungs,
that helps the tuberculosis or kills it off. And there's
such because of the altitude he was getting less oxygen.
He ended up living another thirty years. So he couldn't
leave Esty's Park or he would have died like immediately.
So they just built this insane guest house for all
their rich friends to come and stay. That's now it
turned into a that's the lot, that's the hotel. So
the lodge was built for the women and children, and
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that's the original, and then that other building was for
the men because back then, you know, they kept the
guests up right when they would come to stay.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
I believe they do weddings in that other building as well. Okay, yeah,
that Miles stayed in that. In that building, he basically
was putting he got there kind of late. He's putting
his clothes away in the drawer and the drawers. The
way he described it was it wasn't like, you know,
these drawers don't open and close easily, wooden tracks, you know.
So he opened the drawer, put its clothes in, shut
the drawer, kind of walked around doing other stuff, turns around,
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the drawers open, and he thought, well, maybe maybe I
didn't close it.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
You know, fair enough, we all do that.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Closed it again, went about his business, turns around, you know,
and it's he's the only one in there. It's open
and once again, roller track. It's a man, a wooden track,
not a roller track. It's not going to open easily.
So at that point he's like, all right, I shut
it with intent his words boom, and goes to bed,
wakes up the middle of the night, has to go
to the restroom and.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Bumps into the drawer that's open.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
So he he he has a conversation with the room,
not quite sure exactly.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
He told me a couple of things.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
I'm sorry, I don't mean to you know, one of
those We've all had those conversations in scary places, because
that's what all of the three of us do. And
after that, after the conversation with the room, it didn't
happen again. So, you know, these things happened at the
Stanley Hotel, apparently with people that I trust and know
and love, which gets back to you, guys, walk me
through the first Like I guess we can go in
chronological order or whatever order you you want to go
in what happened in this room house?
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Okay, So we got there around six o'clock and we
wanted to just get some photos. We were really staying
one night, so we thought, okay, we'll put everything in
our room. We'll go and walk the ground, see it
at golden hour and get some pictures, come back in
and of course we were going to the ghost tour
later that evening. Of course, So we get into the room.
We put everything in the closet right away, right like,
not really knowing, don't unpack anything immediately leave, walked around
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the grounds, are gorgeous, had a great time, took some photos.
We come back in the room and a necklace that
I didn't even remember packing it was just in the
middle of the floor, which it could have fallen in
a bag. Me not packing it. That was one thing,
but the fact that it had been like somehow removed
and put in the middle of the floor was very weird.
We could not figure how that would have happened, but
at the time I thought, Okay, maybe I dropped it.
It must have been on my person somehow, And that
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was the first strange thing I think at that point,
even though at felt corny, we spoke to the room
as well, and that we welcome your presence respectful if
you would like to make yourself known, we're really open
to it. And then you know, Eas's kind of laughing
as I do this, but he does it with me.
He's a good sport. And then we left and one
on the ghost tour. Do you want to talk about
the tour?
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Yeah, we went on. It was like it was a
nighttime tour and they just kind of took us through
all the places where there's been activity reported, right, and
we went into like, you know, there's like this performance
room where they still hold concerts today.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Oh, I think I've been to that because they had
a bit of a Halloween ball of sorts. Completely different
building is that writers in.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
The Yes, totally like only it's like the furthest side
of the grounds. And we learned it'say, I think a
one eighth scale replica of the Boston like Symphony Hall.
Whoa Okay, yeah, because FO shorts or shorts one of them, guys.
I love toys FO. Stanley's wife wanted to play in
the Boston Symphony and she couldn't because she was a
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woman and it was the nineteen tens or whatever. So
he built like a replica of the hall so she
could perform in a version of it, which is but
there's stories of like the groundskeeper, like who dropped dead
shoveling snow, like he'll scream at people to get out
after eleven o'clock and spooky stuff. The tour was really spooky.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
We didn't have anything scary, but it was a great
it's a great tour. I let you go in the
tunnels under there's tunnels that right call everything, and then
they turned the lights off. I mean it was just
a great time.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Yeah, that was really fun. So we do the tour.
We're having a blast, and then we come back up
to our room and we're just kind of like, you know,
getting ready for bed. I guess, and I notice on
the bed is I was wearing a baseball hat when
we rolled in, and I deliberately put the hat on
top of my backpack on the night's stand because I
didn't want it. I don't know. Some of these beds
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are dirty, you know. I didn't want right put it
on the bed right away, but so I left on
the nightstand. Then we go to the tour and then
come back the hat is sitting on top of the bed.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
It was the first thing we noticed we walked in
the room. It was like, oh, that was weird. Did
you put that there?
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Yeah? And it was.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
It really stuck out to me because I just remember
having such a vivid like deliberation in my mind of like,
Mayel put this on bed? No, I want to leave
it on the nightstand. I left it on the like
I remember so vividly leaving it on the nightstand. And
we came back and it was on the bed.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
We thought we had maybe imagined it, but we had
taken photos of the room when we got in and
you could see his hat where he'd left it, like
right before we left the room. So it was really strange.
We couldn't figure out how it would have moved.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
These are one of those things you can This is
where people either see what they see or you talk
yourself out of it. But you put it on the nightstand,
you know, you put it photos to back up and
there it is on.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
The bed and between that and the necklace, it was
just strange and it mad it funnier because it was
a Charlie XCX brat hat. So I like to think
the ghost was in there doing the Apple Dance.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Summer.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
So you know, after all this, I mean, some people
I don't want to go back there. Who knows what
will happen next time. This is, you know, the tip
of the iceberg. But clearly would you guys want to
go back and stay like.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Oh we love it?
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Oh yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:08):
After that, So on our wedding registry we put a
ghost hunting kit and his aunt Laura. That's a very
good sport. I bought it press So we brought the
NF detector of course on this trip. So after the
hat we were like, okay, we're all in. And then
that was weird too. Again, we stayed not expecting anything
to happen, so we were really surprised. And when we
pulled the detect route. Do you want to talk about that?
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Yeah? Yeah, the uh it's a I mean, anyone who
listens to the podcast will know an electromagnetic field.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Right, anybody listen to this show clearly knows what that is.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, pretty standard ghost heading equipment.
It measures like differences in electromagnetic waves, and so we
were kind of pointing it around the room and those
things like if you pointed at your cell phone, it's
gonna go crazy, you know. So we were just pointing
around the room transite, and then there's a corner of
the bed. There's no electronics or anything over there. It's
just it's just nothing. It's just a bed and a
wooden dresser, and it starts going crazy and we're kind
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of moving it up and down three dimensional space trying
to figure out like where the readings start and stop,
and it's just this one spot.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
So then the next day after we stayed, I thought, okay,
now I'm going to read about it. See what other
people have experienced now that we kind of had our experience.
And that was everyone kept saying seeing a shadowy figure
in that spot, or having a bad feeling or that
spot feeling really cold, and it was that spot where
a detector had been going off. So that was odd.
And then people kept talking about the closet and things
moving that they put in the closet. We asked someone
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at the gift shop. She said, Oh, I've never had
anything happen here, but that room, people's stuff is always
moving around. So again it's like, oh, it's just a
sprat hat, maybe not that big of a deal. But
the some of everything together seemed very strange, but not
you know, we loved it. We were not scared. Did
not have a bad vibe to me.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
And you confront the skeptics here because I posted about
this on the internet and a lot of people are like, oh,
housekeeping came in and moved your hat. You know, that
seems to be the common But.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
The thought of a housekeeper coming in, going through my back,
pulling an echoes out, putting that, packing everything back up,
coming back again two hours at eight thirty a night
and moving a hat and then leaving, that's scarier to
me than a go maybe do it.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Did they do anything else in the room? No, No,
just that.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
I mean there were hardly any staff there at night.
I think just the front desk.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
We didn't see any housekeeping at all, like because the
right and this is like nine or ten pm, so
it's not like they're doing a turndown service, you know.
So that's my debunking of the housekeeper.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
I guess my my, a skeptic, would say, well, maybe
they're just, you know, trying to build up the ghost
lore and let's sneak and move a.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Few things around. But I think that would be a
bit of a stretch.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
It's more far fetched than a ghost. But that's the
thing with skeptics, right, Sometimes the stuff they come up
with to explain it like that sounds crazy to me.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
I mean, the hotel itself has it has. The lore
is the lore, it is what it is. These people
that work there, it's just the job, you know. I mean,
let me surely, I'm sure they appreciate it and love it,
I would think, but it's just a job. Are they
really going to spend extra time after working all day
or whatever any just to go move somebody's hat. They're
they're not getting paid any extra to mint to sum
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up a ghost, you know. So I find I tend
to believe with what you guys, why would they do that?
Speaker 3 (13:59):
I thought it was interesting they talked about how this
has been going on pretty much since the hotel was built,
and they hit it for decades and decades until they
had one person working at the hotel that said, no,
people will like this, like we need to talk about
the ghosts, and now that's what it's known for. And
I thought that was interesting that they spent so long
trying to hide these strange occurrences and now that's, yeah,
that's why you go visit.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
And they brought up something because you know, when you
hear that there is a ghost in a house, you assume, oh,
someone died there and the ghost the spirit remains. But
something that they talked about at the hotel is like
nobody has or a few people have died there, but
like no one was like murdered there or anything. The
fact that they have all this activity is because there's
so many people that have great memories of being at
that hotel. And sometimes when a spirit is like left behind,
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they gravitate towards They want to relive moments from their
life that where they were happy, you know, So that
might be being a child at the Stanley Hotel when they
stayed there when they were like ten years old, and
then they die in their nineties and then their spirit
goes back to being a ten year old running around the hotel,
like knocking on doors and moving hats around and stuff.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
I would think, you know, if the theory is well,
you know, spirits are people, you know, then you'd want
to go to where what made you happy? You know,
So why wouldn't you want to go back there? By
the way I had it, this is not a paranormal experience.
But the night one night I was there at the
at the Stanley, I guess some couple had a fight
next door, and so I was like, what the heck
is going such? I mean, I don't know if it
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wasn't necessarily a physical fight, but like it got close.
So I called, you know, downstairs and let I was like,
oh my god, there's something going on this. And then
the police came and knocked on my door later to
get get a report from what I you know, from
if I had heard anything like, well here's what I so,
that's whoa But I was thinking. I was thinking in
my head like what if nobody's really next door? I'm
just hearing this stuff. Everybody was fine. They kicked the
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guy out. I think they probably arrested the guy, just anybody.
I don't know the whole story, but that's kind of
what happened. So Okay, if you've never stayed at the
Stanley Hotel. You have to experience this. It's something special
about it.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
It really is beautiful hotel. I mean, if you're interested
in historic buildings, it's stunning. The location is great, the
town that it's in is amazing. ST's Park. We left
me I would go back in stay anytime, not even
for the ghosts, Like if we had nothing happen, I
would have wanted to go back. But it was great.
And again we went in not expecting anything, thinking oh,
it's probably marketing. And leaving with Easton was it changed me?
Speaker 1 (16:12):
On?
Speaker 3 (16:12):
He was like, that was really weird.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Yeah, I try to be a skeptic of this kind
of stuff, but I was fully in it.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
And I guess the last thing I'll say is probably
the first thing you guys did is as you were
driving to the hotel you played the shining theme.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
So all right, of courus. You got to get in
the mood.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
You had to.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
We had so much fun doing Did you do the
hedge Maids when you were there? Yeah, so much fun.
You know, we had to pretend we were freezing to
death in the hedgemaids. Take the photo.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Yes, ninety degrees outside, so cool, so cool?
Speaker 1 (16:39):
All right, So that's one story. They've got a couple
of stories that we'll call that the Stanley Hotel segment.
The next segment we have to talk about and I
don't know if this is if this falls under the
paranormal you know, banner or not, but I find it
so fascinating and it's just it's it's yeah, the urn
in the backyard. What the heck give me the I
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don't know which one of you guys want to take this,
but this is the most week bizarre store.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
We've had a few things up, and it's the house.
But I'll start with the earth. Okay, well, maybe I'll
start with when we moved in. And I don't know
if it relates to the urn or not, but when
our house is built nineteen eleven, it's the historic home,
one of the first houses. So we're in a small
town that was one of the first towns in Los
Angeles County. So our house is one of the oldest
houses in LA And when we moved in, there was
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in our dining room, we have wood paneling, and there
was just an old pie toon nailed to the wall.
So when we were walking through checking the house out
the first time, we were like, what is that? That's
on decore And apparently there'd been a pot bellied stove
in there at some point and one of the owners
along the way had taken the stove out and instead
of sealing it up correctly with new wood, they just
nailed a pie ten over it. It had been like
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that for fifty years, so that was a little strange.
So then when we were in and I was well,
I was home alone, and I had the guy from
the gas company out to make sure we hooked our
stove up correctly, and I was unpacking stuff in the
dining room and I kind of just got a weird feeling.
But I thought, you know, it's a new house. I'm
not used to it yet. But I was feeling kind
of nauseous. And the stove guy said, Okay, your stove's good.
I'm leaving anything else you want me to check out.
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As soon as he said that, that pyton it didn't
just fall down. It looked like somebody flung it off
the wall. It like scattered across the room, and we
were both really freaked out. And he was like, that's weird,
and I'm like, yeah, that was really weird. And then
I said, hey, actually, while you're here, that used to
be where Pop Belly's stove was. There's a chimney in
the wall. Could you just make sure it's not venting anything?
Sure enough, it was venting carbon monoxide out. And we
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had bought the house because the previous owner had unfortunately
gone blind as the result of macular degeneration, and a
major cause of that is long term small amounts of
carbon monoxide explosion. So I don't know what that was about,
but it felt very much like something in there was
looking out for.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Us, Like I said, hey, fix this right.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
We know the original owners. They built it to be
their retirement home. The husband died two weeks after the
house was finished. The wife lived alone in there for
about thirty years and then passed away in the home
as well. So I like to think she's maybe in
there keeping an eye out for us, but it could
also be so we knew maybe there's somebody in here.
And then after about six months of living in the house,
I got a text from from the owner's son saying, Hey,
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my dad left something really embarrassing on the property. Can
I call you? And I was like, the ninety did
he lead old dirty magazines?
Speaker 4 (19:15):
What is it We're wanted over text?
Speaker 3 (19:18):
So he like you know, called me and what it
was once he said, Hey, my dad had this friend
that was a bachelor, he's never married, never had kids,
and he was dying of cancer. And he asked, my dad,
would you take care of my body after I passed
the way? Wh you handled the arrangements and left him
a couple hundred dollars. So that was enough to get
the friend cremated, but not enough to have him interred somewhere.
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And I guess that the family just didn't want to
pay for it, so they had, you know, the friend
on the mantle and his urn for decades before the
owner's wife was like, you got to get your buddy
out of here. So the husband said, oh, sure, I'll
take care of it. I'll take him to porescelawn or whatever.
But he actually just buried him in the backyard and
never told anyone until that time. So he told his
son saying, hey, hey, I just remember my friends in
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the backyard.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Something is supposed to do.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Can we can we go dig him up? I feel
bad about it, and I said, of course you can
dig him up. That's so we thought it was hysterical.
So that you know, the man was in his late nineties.
He was supposed to come with the sun. He gets
really ill and passes away before, so we don't know
where it is. Nobody knows.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
So the so the sun had called the.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Gun son had called, said, Hey, I'm gonna bring my
dad over. We're gonna dig this up. He dies before
it happened, dies before it happens. So all we know
is there's an urn in the backyard somewhere, but we
don't know where it is. So it's kind of funny.
Anytime I'm doing any gardening, I'm always very aware of
where I'm digging. And then during COVID, during lockdowns, I'm
in the little local free group and someone said, hey,
this isn't really you know, I'm not asking it for
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an item. I'm wondering my son is really into metal detecting.
Does anyone have a yard? They wouldn't mind if he
went and looked around, So we thought, maybe it's going
to be like a big Lebowski situation, and this friend
is just in a coffee can buried in the backyard.
So we had this nine year old out there looking
for him for hours, but unfortunately did not locate him.
So we're still looking.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
Yeah, could be like in a cardboard box, or it
could be a I don't know, we don't know. Maybe
it's not out there at all. You know, we don't
know yet.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
But what the heck, I mean, that's your backyard is
kind of begging for some sort of paranormal activity. Now
there is one theory we were kind of talking. I
told a couple of people about this, and what if
it's not somebody's earned in the backyard. What if they
buried something valuable back there, like you know, some money,
some something, cat something. What if that's the.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Case, Maybe we need to invest in a metal detector.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Yeah, I mean maybe, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
Yeah, I've got some calls out because the people that
came by there, there were children, you know, they were
like doing as a hobby. I did find a guy
who seems to be he had the really heavy duty one,
and I saw him on the street. He was looking
in the like there's little like spots of grass in between,
like the sidewalk in the street. He was just like
scanning those, and I'm like, hey, buddy, I gotta I
got a job for you. So we're gonna get that
guy out there, y'all will.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Do a follow up if we find anything. Yeah, I
don't know where it is. I mean, I kind of
think it is out there just for something. I like
the idea that there's going to just be a box
of cash out there.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
That would be great, That would be pretty pretty wild.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
So if that's the guy, you guys need to find,
it's your property now, you know. If it's a dead
dude in the box, sure, you know. But from the
paranormal side of things, I mean, you know, what what
could happen? I mean, if a guy is buried in
a place that he doesn't want to be buried, you
would think he would appear and say, Hey, like the
pen that flew across the room, Hey.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Fix this right?
Speaker 3 (22:21):
That makes me think he likes it. I don't know
if I don't want to move him, you know, but
I don't know. I don't know what you would do
if I want to know where it is. But I
don't necessarily want to move him either, because I feel
like that if nothing's gone bad so far, so maybe
I just leave things as they are.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Yeah, and I don't know where he'd want to be, because,
you know, because.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
He didn't have any family.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
This guy. His plan was, Hey, do with me what
you will, sir, Cremate me and put me.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Somewhere, put me in put me in Easton and Allison's backyard.
That'd be awesome, all right. So you guys, basically, I
guess you know, I mean, it's not the typical haunted house,
but you guys kind of live in a haunted house
in a way, right or actually, you know what am
I saying this? This is a haunted house. It's mean,
I mean, listen to what you just said.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
I guess we do. And again I I was a
little more skeptical before this house, but we've had I
think the original bedroom, which is Euston's office, is where
a lot of the weird stuff has happened. Our dog
refused to go in there for years and years. We
had a friends stay in there when night. We have
a little guest bed. We hadn't told her anything, and
she said she woke up in the middle of the
night because all the papers on the desk were just
fell on the ground and there's no air vent or anything.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Really.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
We had another friend come by with his toddler, and
the toddler and the dog were just standing at the
door threshold staring into that room looking freaked out, and
we had to pick them up and move them because
they wouldn't come back. So something weird with that room.
I think it's maybe the room that she died and
if she's in there the original owners.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
And this might not be. This isn't like a scientific
way of measuring ghosts or paranum activity, but there was
there was a filter on TikTok, like a year ago.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Here we go.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
Yeah, it would it would make it would take an
image and use AI and make it like look like
a person, like.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
The SLS cam.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Yeah, you see those things where it looks like well,
if you if you guys don't know what we're talking about,
a lot of these ghost shows use it if you
if you do. For example, like a dance video game
one PlayStation, the camera is pointing towards you, It reads
your figure and it turns you into a stick figure.
Now the game will put like a face on you
and some animation, but the stick figures that what you're
talking about.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
Yes, it's it looks for like a humanoid figure and
then it will like put a character on top of it,
like it'll make it look like you know, sailor moon
or something like that. Gotcha, okay, And I think in
paranormal activity three these something like that.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
So this has been scientifically tested, This is a peer review,
This is scientific method, the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
So what people were doing was taking this filter and
taking pictures of their of rooms in their house with
no people in them, and seeing if it was able
to detect a figure, right, maybe not a different wavelength
on the electromagnetic field or something like that. So I,
of course I tried it throughout the house and it
wouldn't do anything. But then when I went in that room,
it had a figure in there and that was the
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only place in the house where it would work and resting.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Yeah, And then I don't know if this makes us
what we did a Ouiji board in there one time.
He did not want to do it. I made him
do it. Those things are, you know, And I didn't
really think anything would happen. I just thought this will
be fun. And we were in there and we just
asked it kind of as a joke because the dog
would never go in that room. I said, do you
like dogs? And it immediately went to know and both
of us wear we didn't push it. We were really
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freaked out. I mean, it's scared. So again, I don't
know if that was us subconsciously, one of us messing
with the other. But yeah, I guess there's a reason
our dog didn't want to go in there. Whatever's in there,
didn't want him in there. Very strange.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Ouiji boards is strange because every time, just like what
you said, every time I've done one, you're looking at
the other person going did you push that? And you
don't know if they did or not, you know, And
I don't And I don't think I pushed it either.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
I don't think.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
So, but I've heard so many warnings don't don't mess
with them, which I get it. But the flip of
that is it's you know, it's it's in the toy section,
you know, could it be I went to Barnes and
Noble the other day over at the grove, I think
it was, and you know, there's games and this, and
there's weed board sitting there, like, what the heck do
you do?
Speaker 2 (26:04):
You guys?
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Well, am I missing any stories from the house or because.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Yeah, it's really weird. Oh, there's just been little things.
I had a surgery last year and I had a
physical therapist working with me at the house and she
had like a sheet over me and she was doing
something in my leg and she just stopped talking. She
was like mid sentencing, got really quiet, okay. And then
that was the first time I met with her. And
then she came back a few times later and we'd
sort of got more comfortable, and she said, do you
think your house is haunted? And I was like, what
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she said. I was working on you, and at a
spot where I could tell it was probably really hurting,
something lifted that sheet up and I thought, okay, that's weird.
I told her some of these stories and she's she's
not really a believer either, but she was a little
freaked out. So you know, I think it's a helpful ghost.
I think if we have spirit right, But it was
it was weird, just enough little things where like you said,
if it was one thing, I could explain it, but
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there's been so many small things that it is a
little strange. The python really freaked me out. Yeah, I
will never figure out that.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
And we still have the pieton.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
I have a photo, which I know is great for
a podcast, but I do have a picture.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
The pie tin just to relive that for a quick second.
The pie tin is hang is kind of it's over
the hole where the you know where the this is
a terrible description. It's over the whole thing. But it
just flies. It's it just flies across the room.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Yeah, I mean it really looked like like like pulled
it off the wall through it on the ground. It
didn't just fall down. It went several feet with a
great force. I mean, it was very strange. And again
there was carbon monoxide coming out, but nothing that would
be like pushing it out with that kind of force.
It was just so so weird, and I would have
thought I'd imagined it. But the gas coumpany guy looked
like he was going to cry. He was really freaked out.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
And just to fight off the skeptics here, is there
any other reason it would have flown off? I mean,
can you I mean, aside from air pushing it out,
which is not the case.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
You know, right, there's no cross ventilation.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
I mean there were nails holding it in.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Yeah, oh there were.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Yeah, it was like nailed on.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
But yeah, it wasn't like you know, it wasn't like
you couldn't pull it off. You could like pull it
off if you wanted.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
To, but it was but pretty secure.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
It wasn't gonna tip out or like fall out or anything.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
I know, Okay, gut feeling. I mean, I guess you
kind of already told me. What else could it have been?
Speaker 3 (28:05):
It's very weird.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
I mean, if we're talking, let's be super rational, but
still with the with you know, open mind. Somebody tell
me what else it could have been other than.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Yeah, you know listeners if you know right in I'm curious.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Do you hope you have more experiences in the house
or is it strange to be this is It's one
thing to go to the Stanley, but you know, this
is where you go you live.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
At I've never felt I mean, if anything, she's been helpful.
She may have saved us from carbon monoxide poison. It
feels very feminine to me. I don't know why I
always say she, but to me it feels like a woman.
But or maybe I don't know, but I've never felt
scared by it. I just didn't really. I've had weird
stuff happen, but not as much until we moved into
this house, and it's really changed how I think about
the idea of ghosts or spirits, and I've never felt
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a sinister vibe from this, so I don't mind her.
She's welcome in our home. I think. I think Euston
feels the same.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
Yeah, yeah, I agree. I never feel unsafe for like
anything weird is happening, you know, like aside from little
instances here there. But I enjoy it, and she's welcome,
and I'm as far as I'm a guest in her home.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Can I come stay that the room with the well
your office, that's the one in question right now? Right?
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Can I come? Is there like a place I could
camp out for the night in your office?
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (29:16):
I would love day the night.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Well, Luigi board out for you.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Can we do that? One of the hundred percent serious?
Speaker 4 (29:22):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Oh my god, okay, we have to do this. My god.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
You guys live in a haunted house. How exciting? How
long have you lived in a house?
Speaker 3 (29:29):
But then there's seven years, so hopefully we'll be there
a long time and hopefully we continue having bizarre experiences
because I think it's fun, even.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Though it might not be the lady that lived there
for thirty years after her husband passed. Uh?
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Is there a picture of her anywhere? Have you ever?
Speaker 3 (29:42):
No? I've tried to track her down. I have a history,
so our town is very cute. We had a town historian,
so he actually provided me with everyone that's ever lived
there I have a record of, but I haven't been
able to find anyone living other than the most recent
family that was there. The ones would be earned. So
I'm still working on it because I feel like there's
got to be some Fringd nieces or nephew. Is somebody
I could.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Talk to you.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
I would love to get a picture of the lady
that lived there and pasted there, I believe, right yeah,
and put it up somewhere and just you know, see
if she reacts to the past.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Right.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
I love that idea.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
That's a great idea.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Thank you guys so much for hanging out. Thank you
once again. That's Easton and Allison and they live in
on a house
Welcome to another episode of Paranormalish. On this episode, I'm
talking to a couple. Her name's Alison, his name's Easton,
and they have a couple of things going on, but
I guess the main thing is they live in a
house that's haunted. Now they seem they seem to enjoy
it for the most part, you know, So that's the
main thing. And also they recently went to the Stanley
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Hotel in Estes Park, Colorado, the famous haunted Stanley Hotel,
and they've.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Got some stories about that as well. But here we go.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
I called this episode Alison and Easton live in a
haunted house Jojo on the radio paranormal and normal. Okay,
welcome to another episode of Paranormalish. I'm so pumped for
this one. Easton and Alison.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
What's up you guys?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Hey, I'm doing awesome. I guess we should explain how
we know each other.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
We work.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
This is not our main job, obviously doing a podcast
about ghosts, although I wish you were times. But Easton
and I work at iHeartRadio in Los Angeles or in Burbank.
I do a radio show and Easton works on several
radio shows and podcasts and all this stuff. I don't
know if you want to run through them, but eighteen
to forty for starters, yeah, American Top forty is Ryan Seacrest.
We count down the biggest hits of the week, Yes,
(01:16):
you do, the iHeart Radio Countdown with Jojo Yay, and
then any good podcast you've ever heard. I have my
hand and I'll just leave it at that, right, And Allison,
how'd you guys? I mean a little bit about yourself
because I met you through Easton.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Obviously, I'm Alison and Easton's lovely wife. We've been for
INDs since they were eighteen. We remat when we moved
to Los Angeles, and we were married seven years ago. Yeah,
we both have paranormal stuff. I think I might be
a little bit more into it than Easton.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
But you guys, now, you guys seem like you were
meant for each other. You really do great.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
It is how we feel too. I think that's always
a good sign.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
It really is. All right.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
So, obviously I have an obsession with the paranormal, and clearly,
like Alison just said, they have not only an obsession, certainly, Allison,
but you have these encounters and I've been on a
mission to get you guys in here, and for one
reason or another, it took a while to make this
thing happen. But I'm glad we waited until now because
of the Stanley Hotel, which we'll start off with you
guys as we taped this podcast just about I don't know,
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within the.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Last two weeks, three weeks, whatever it was.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Just recently you went to stay at the Stanley Hotel,
which is infamous for Stephen King's you know, encounter which
turned into The Shining. Where do you want to start
at with the Stanley Hotel, So.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
We explain a little bit about it. A lot of
people think the Stanley Hotel was where The Shining was filmed.
It was not. I think it's actually much spookier. Stephen
King stayed there on a vacation with his wife at
the end of the season. There was no other guests
in the hotel at the time, and he had this
really scary nightmare and just a very weird feeling throughout
the whole experience that inspired him to write The Shining.
So the hotel in The Shining is based on the
Stanley Hotel and it's real history, which I think is
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really cool. Wow.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I think it's better than being filmed there. I think
this is where the real in my head, where the
real shining is, where it happened, you know.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
And it's great because the Stanley's leaned into it. They
since planted a hedge of age. They have like a
ghost tour. It's so funny. They totally like know their market.
I think we do.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Easton.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
You sent me a couple of notes and you guys
stayed in the Lord dun Raven suite.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Yeah, she is. What's what's the backstory on that suite?
Speaker 4 (03:08):
We were going coming to Colorado for a different reason.
We're going to go to a themed Mexican restaurant and
I this is another story that yeah, that's another podcast.
But we we were like, oh well, let's let's go
stay in Estes Park for a night and see the Stanley.
So I booked the room and I said in the notes,
give me your spookiest room. And they called me and
they're like, we have a lot of options for you.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Then you had to do the upsell.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Yeah yeah, I mean it worked. I paid a lot
of extra for there. It was the room that's it's
not like the nicest room, but it has the most
activity it's the Lord dun Raven Suite.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
To be the most haunted room in the whole haunted hotel.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Yes, and Lord Dunraven was a guy that lived on
the land before the hotel was built, and he like
hunted the elk into near extinction. Bad dude. Nobody liked him,
but his spirit seems to hang around this room. So
we're like, well, yes, sign us up, let's go stay
in that room.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
What room number was it? Do you recall four?
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Ten or ten or ten? I'm writing that down there.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Yeah, it's in what was originally the attic and it's
directly under the bell tower, which was really exciting in
the morning to hear that going off right.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Really woh okay? I mean in terms of like amenities,
I mean the room has like the ceilings made of
like sunken ship wood or something like that.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Like, wait, they redid the room, so the ceiling is
wood from a reclaimed sunken ship. When we walked in,
so we didn't read anything about the room. I wanted
to go in not knowing or having any ideas ahead
of time and just sort of see if anything happened.
And right away we thought the weirdest thing was a
very strange little closet that was in the bathroom the
elevators like directly on the other side. It's just a
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weird place for a closet. And we found out later
that that's the upper center of the bazaarre, that in
a corner near the bed or the two areas that
are supposed to be the most haunted, and that's where
we experienced bizarre things happening. So that seems to be
if you go stay there, check out the closet.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
God, I love this stuff.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
By the way, before we go any further, I've stayed
at this Stanley hotel one time, and a friend of
a friend of ours, Miles, who also works at our
her radio, he stayed there as well, but he stayed
there's two hotels. There's the main building, which is where
this you're where you stayed at. Then there's the building
right next to it, which I forget what that's called,
but it's uh.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
The main building is the lodge, and I can't recall
the name of the other building, but that was actually built.
The Stanley was built to be a guest house. So
f f O Stanley was Yeah, he had tuberculosis. He
was dying so he moved to Colorado to Esdy's Park
because they were just basically him and his wife are
trying to find a nice place for him to die.
And he had tuberculosis. And what they didn't know back
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then is if you have less oxygen in your lungs,
that helps the tuberculosis or kills it off. And there's
such because of the altitude he was getting less oxygen.
He ended up living another thirty years. So he couldn't
leave Esty's Park or he would have died like immediately.
So they just built this insane guest house for all
their rich friends to come and stay. That's now it
turned into a that's the lot, that's the hotel. So
the lodge was built for the women and children, and
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that's the original, and then that other building was for
the men because back then, you know, they kept the
guests up right when they would come to stay.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
I believe they do weddings in that other building as well. Okay, yeah,
that Miles stayed in that. In that building, he basically
was putting he got there kind of late. He's putting
his clothes away in the drawer and the drawers. The
way he described it was it wasn't like, you know,
these drawers don't open and close easily, wooden tracks, you know.
So he opened the drawer, put its clothes in, shut
the drawer, kind of walked around doing other stuff, turns around,
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the drawers open, and he thought, well, maybe maybe I
didn't close it.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
You know, fair enough, we all do that.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Closed it again, went about his business, turns around, you know,
and it's he's the only one in there. It's open
and once again, roller track. It's a man, a wooden track,
not a roller track. It's not going to open easily.
So at that point he's like, all right, I shut
it with intent his words boom, and goes to bed,
wakes up the middle of the night, has to go
to the restroom and.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Bumps into the drawer that's open.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
So he he he has a conversation with the room,
not quite sure exactly.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
He told me a couple of things.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
I'm sorry, I don't mean to you know, one of
those We've all had those conversations in scary places, because
that's what all of the three of us do. And
after that, after the conversation with the room, it didn't
happen again. So, you know, these things happened at the
Stanley Hotel, apparently with people that I trust and know
and love, which gets back to you, guys, walk me
through the first Like I guess we can go in
chronological order or whatever order you you want to go
in what happened in this room house?
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Okay, So we got there around six o'clock and we
wanted to just get some photos. We were really staying
one night, so we thought, okay, we'll put everything in
our room. We'll go and walk the ground, see it
at golden hour and get some pictures, come back in
and of course we were going to the ghost tour
later that evening. Of course, So we get into the room.
We put everything in the closet right away, right like,
not really knowing, don't unpack anything immediately leave, walked around
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the grounds, are gorgeous, had a great time, took some photos.
We come back in the room and a necklace that
I didn't even remember packing it was just in the
middle of the floor, which it could have fallen in
a bag. Me not packing it. That was one thing,
but the fact that it had been like somehow removed
and put in the middle of the floor was very weird.
We could not figure how that would have happened, but
at the time I thought, Okay, maybe I dropped it.
It must have been on my person somehow, And that
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was the first strange thing I think at that point,
even though at felt corny, we spoke to the room
as well, and that we welcome your presence respectful if
you would like to make yourself known, we're really open
to it. And then you know, Eas's kind of laughing
as I do this, but he does it with me.
He's a good sport. And then we left and one
on the ghost tour. Do you want to talk about
the tour?
Speaker 4 (08:26):
Yeah, we went on. It was like it was a
nighttime tour and they just kind of took us through
all the places where there's been activity reported, right, and
we went into like, you know, there's like this performance
room where they still hold concerts today.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Oh, I think I've been to that because they had
a bit of a Halloween ball of sorts. Completely different
building is that writers in.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
The Yes, totally like only it's like the furthest side
of the grounds. And we learned it'say, I think a
one eighth scale replica of the Boston like Symphony Hall.
Whoa Okay, yeah, because FO shorts or shorts one of them, guys.
I love toys FO. Stanley's wife wanted to play in
the Boston Symphony and she couldn't because she was a
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woman and it was the nineteen tens or whatever. So
he built like a replica of the hall so she
could perform in a version of it, which is but
there's stories of like the groundskeeper, like who dropped dead
shoveling snow, like he'll scream at people to get out
after eleven o'clock and spooky stuff. The tour was really spooky.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
We didn't have anything scary, but it was a great
it's a great tour. I let you go in the
tunnels under there's tunnels that right call everything, and then
they turned the lights off. I mean it was just
a great time.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Yeah, that was really fun. So we do the tour.
We're having a blast, and then we come back up
to our room and we're just kind of like, you know,
getting ready for bed. I guess, and I notice on
the bed is I was wearing a baseball hat when
we rolled in, and I deliberately put the hat on
top of my backpack on the night's stand because I
didn't want it. I don't know. Some of these beds
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are dirty, you know. I didn't want right put it
on the bed right away, but so I left on
the nightstand. Then we go to the tour and then
come back the hat is sitting on top of the bed.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
It was the first thing we noticed we walked in
the room. It was like, oh, that was weird. Did
you put that there?
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Yeah? And it was.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
It really stuck out to me because I just remember
having such a vivid like deliberation in my mind of like,
Mayel put this on bed? No, I want to leave
it on the nightstand. I left it on the like
I remember so vividly leaving it on the nightstand. And
we came back and it was on the bed.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
We thought we had maybe imagined it, but we had
taken photos of the room when we got in and
you could see his hat where he'd left it, like
right before we left the room. So it was really strange.
We couldn't figure out how it would have moved.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
These are one of those things you can This is
where people either see what they see or you talk
yourself out of it. But you put it on the nightstand,
you know, you put it photos to back up and
there it is on.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
The bed and between that and the necklace, it was
just strange and it mad it funnier because it was
a Charlie XCX brat hat. So I like to think
the ghost was in there doing the Apple Dance.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Summer.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
So you know, after all this, I mean, some people
I don't want to go back there. Who knows what
will happen next time. This is, you know, the tip
of the iceberg. But clearly would you guys want to
go back and stay like.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Oh we love it?
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Oh yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:08):
After that, So on our wedding registry we put a
ghost hunting kit and his aunt Laura. That's a very
good sport. I bought it press So we brought the
NF detector of course on this trip. So after the
hat we were like, okay, we're all in. And then
that was weird too. Again, we stayed not expecting anything
to happen, so we were really surprised. And when we
pulled the detect route. Do you want to talk about that?
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Yeah? Yeah, the uh it's a I mean, anyone who
listens to the podcast will know an electromagnetic field.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Right, anybody listen to this show clearly knows what that is.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, pretty standard ghost heading equipment.
It measures like differences in electromagnetic waves, and so we
were kind of pointing it around the room and those
things like if you pointed at your cell phone, it's
gonna go crazy, you know. So we were just pointing
around the room transite, and then there's a corner of
the bed. There's no electronics or anything over there. It's
just it's just nothing. It's just a bed and a
wooden dresser, and it starts going crazy and we're kind
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of moving it up and down three dimensional space trying
to figure out like where the readings start and stop,
and it's just this one spot.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
So then the next day after we stayed, I thought, okay,
now I'm going to read about it. See what other
people have experienced now that we kind of had our experience.
And that was everyone kept saying seeing a shadowy figure
in that spot, or having a bad feeling or that
spot feeling really cold, and it was that spot where
a detector had been going off. So that was odd.
And then people kept talking about the closet and things
moving that they put in the closet. We asked someone
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at the gift shop. She said, Oh, I've never had
anything happen here, but that room, people's stuff is always
moving around. So again it's like, oh, it's just a
sprat hat, maybe not that big of a deal. But
the some of everything together seemed very strange, but not
you know, we loved it. We were not scared. Did
not have a bad vibe to me.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
And you confront the skeptics here because I posted about
this on the internet and a lot of people are like, oh,
housekeeping came in and moved your hat. You know, that
seems to be the common But.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
The thought of a housekeeper coming in, going through my back,
pulling an echoes out, putting that, packing everything back up,
coming back again two hours at eight thirty a night
and moving a hat and then leaving, that's scarier to
me than a go maybe do it.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Did they do anything else in the room? No, No,
just that.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
I mean there were hardly any staff there at night.
I think just the front desk.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
We didn't see any housekeeping at all, like because the
right and this is like nine or ten pm, so
it's not like they're doing a turndown service, you know.
So that's my debunking of the housekeeper.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
I guess my my, a skeptic, would say, well, maybe
they're just, you know, trying to build up the ghost
lore and let's sneak and move a.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Few things around. But I think that would be a
bit of a stretch.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
It's more far fetched than a ghost. But that's the
thing with skeptics, right, Sometimes the stuff they come up
with to explain it like that sounds crazy to me.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
I mean, the hotel itself has it has. The lore
is the lore, it is what it is. These people
that work there, it's just the job, you know. I mean,
let me surely, I'm sure they appreciate it and love it,
I would think, but it's just a job. Are they
really going to spend extra time after working all day
or whatever any just to go move somebody's hat. They're
they're not getting paid any extra to mint to sum
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up a ghost, you know. So I find I tend
to believe with what you guys, why would they do that?
Speaker 3 (13:59):
I thought it was interesting they talked about how this
has been going on pretty much since the hotel was built,
and they hit it for decades and decades until they
had one person working at the hotel that said, no,
people will like this, like we need to talk about
the ghosts, and now that's what it's known for. And
I thought that was interesting that they spent so long
trying to hide these strange occurrences and now that's, yeah,
that's why you go visit.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
And they brought up something because you know, when you
hear that there is a ghost in a house, you assume, oh,
someone died there and the ghost the spirit remains. But
something that they talked about at the hotel is like
nobody has or a few people have died there, but
like no one was like murdered there or anything. The
fact that they have all this activity is because there's
so many people that have great memories of being at
that hotel. And sometimes when a spirit is like left behind,
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they gravitate towards They want to relive moments from their
life that where they were happy, you know, So that
might be being a child at the Stanley Hotel when they
stayed there when they were like ten years old, and
then they die in their nineties and then their spirit
goes back to being a ten year old running around the hotel,
like knocking on doors and moving hats around and stuff.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
I would think, you know, if the theory is well,
you know, spirits are people, you know, then you'd want
to go to where what made you happy? You know,
So why wouldn't you want to go back there? By
the way I had it, this is not a paranormal experience.
But the night one night I was there at the
at the Stanley, I guess some couple had a fight
next door, and so I was like, what the heck
is going such? I mean, I don't know if it
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wasn't necessarily a physical fight, but like it got close.
So I called, you know, downstairs and let I was like,
oh my god, there's something going on this. And then
the police came and knocked on my door later to
get get a report from what I you know, from
if I had heard anything like, well here's what I so,
that's whoa But I was thinking. I was thinking in
my head like what if nobody's really next door? I'm
just hearing this stuff. Everybody was fine. They kicked the
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guy out. I think they probably arrested the guy, just anybody.
I don't know the whole story, but that's kind of
what happened. So Okay, if you've never stayed at the
Stanley Hotel. You have to experience this. It's something special
about it.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
It really is beautiful hotel. I mean, if you're interested
in historic buildings, it's stunning. The location is great, the
town that it's in is amazing. ST's Park. We left
me I would go back in stay anytime, not even
for the ghosts, Like if we had nothing happen, I
would have wanted to go back. But it was great.
And again we went in not expecting anything, thinking oh,
it's probably marketing. And leaving with Easton was it changed me?
Speaker 1 (16:12):
On?
Speaker 3 (16:12):
He was like, that was really weird.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Yeah, I try to be a skeptic of this kind
of stuff, but I was fully in it.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
And I guess the last thing I'll say is probably
the first thing you guys did is as you were
driving to the hotel you played the shining theme.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
So all right, of courus. You got to get in
the mood.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
You had to.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
We had so much fun doing Did you do the
hedge Maids when you were there? Yeah, so much fun.
You know, we had to pretend we were freezing to
death in the hedgemaids. Take the photo.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Yes, ninety degrees outside, so cool, so cool?
Speaker 1 (16:39):
All right, So that's one story. They've got a couple
of stories that we'll call that the Stanley Hotel segment.
The next segment we have to talk about and I
don't know if this is if this falls under the
paranormal you know, banner or not, but I find it
so fascinating and it's just it's it's yeah, the urn
in the backyard. What the heck give me the I
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don't know which one of you guys want to take this,
but this is the most week bizarre store.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
We've had a few things up, and it's the house.
But I'll start with the earth. Okay, well, maybe I'll
start with when we moved in. And I don't know
if it relates to the urn or not, but when
our house is built nineteen eleven, it's the historic home,
one of the first houses. So we're in a small
town that was one of the first towns in Los
Angeles County. So our house is one of the oldest
houses in LA And when we moved in, there was
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in our dining room, we have wood paneling, and there
was just an old pie toon nailed to the wall.
So when we were walking through checking the house out
the first time, we were like, what is that? That's
on decore And apparently there'd been a pot bellied stove
in there at some point and one of the owners
along the way had taken the stove out and instead
of sealing it up correctly with new wood, they just
nailed a pie ten over it. It had been like
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that for fifty years, so that was a little strange.
So then when we were in and I was well,
I was home alone, and I had the guy from
the gas company out to make sure we hooked our
stove up correctly, and I was unpacking stuff in the
dining room and I kind of just got a weird feeling.
But I thought, you know, it's a new house. I'm
not used to it yet. But I was feeling kind
of nauseous. And the stove guy said, Okay, your stove's good.
I'm leaving anything else you want me to check out.
(18:08):
As soon as he said that, that pyton it didn't
just fall down. It looked like somebody flung it off
the wall. It like scattered across the room, and we
were both really freaked out. And he was like, that's weird,
and I'm like, yeah, that was really weird. And then
I said, hey, actually, while you're here, that used to
be where Pop Belly's stove was. There's a chimney in
the wall. Could you just make sure it's not venting anything?
Sure enough, it was venting carbon monoxide out. And we
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had bought the house because the previous owner had unfortunately
gone blind as the result of macular degeneration, and a
major cause of that is long term small amounts of
carbon monoxide explosion. So I don't know what that was about,
but it felt very much like something in there was
looking out for.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Us, Like I said, hey, fix this right.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
We know the original owners. They built it to be
their retirement home. The husband died two weeks after the
house was finished. The wife lived alone in there for
about thirty years and then passed away in the home
as well. So I like to think she's maybe in
there keeping an eye out for us, but it could
also be so we knew maybe there's somebody in here.
And then after about six months of living in the house,
I got a text from from the owner's son saying, Hey,
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my dad left something really embarrassing on the property. Can
I call you? And I was like, the ninety did
he lead old dirty magazines?
Speaker 4 (19:15):
What is it We're wanted over text?
Speaker 3 (19:18):
So he like you know, called me and what it
was once he said, Hey, my dad had this friend
that was a bachelor, he's never married, never had kids,
and he was dying of cancer. And he asked, my dad,
would you take care of my body after I passed
the way? Wh you handled the arrangements and left him
a couple hundred dollars. So that was enough to get
the friend cremated, but not enough to have him interred somewhere.
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And I guess that the family just didn't want to
pay for it, so they had, you know, the friend
on the mantle and his urn for decades before the
owner's wife was like, you got to get your buddy
out of here. So the husband said, oh, sure, I'll
take care of it. I'll take him to porescelawn or whatever.
But he actually just buried him in the backyard and
never told anyone until that time. So he told his
son saying, hey, hey, I just remember my friends in
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the backyard.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Something is supposed to do.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Can we can we go dig him up? I feel
bad about it, and I said, of course you can
dig him up. That's so we thought it was hysterical.
So that you know, the man was in his late nineties.
He was supposed to come with the sun. He gets
really ill and passes away before, so we don't know
where it is. Nobody knows.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
So the so the sun had called the.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Gun son had called, said, Hey, I'm gonna bring my
dad over. We're gonna dig this up. He dies before
it happened, dies before it happens. So all we know
is there's an urn in the backyard somewhere, but we
don't know where it is. So it's kind of funny.
Anytime I'm doing any gardening, I'm always very aware of
where I'm digging. And then during COVID, during lockdowns, I'm
in the little local free group and someone said, hey,
this isn't really you know, I'm not asking it for
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an item. I'm wondering my son is really into metal detecting.
Does anyone have a yard? They wouldn't mind if he
went and looked around, So we thought, maybe it's going
to be like a big Lebowski situation, and this friend
is just in a coffee can buried in the backyard.
So we had this nine year old out there looking
for him for hours, but unfortunately did not locate him.
So we're still looking.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
Yeah, could be like in a cardboard box, or it
could be a I don't know, we don't know. Maybe
it's not out there at all. You know, we don't
know yet.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
But what the heck, I mean, that's your backyard is
kind of begging for some sort of paranormal activity. Now
there is one theory we were kind of talking. I
told a couple of people about this, and what if
it's not somebody's earned in the backyard. What if they
buried something valuable back there, like you know, some money,
some something, cat something. What if that's the.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Case, Maybe we need to invest in a metal detector.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Yeah, I mean maybe, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
Yeah, I've got some calls out because the people that
came by there, there were children, you know, they were
like doing as a hobby. I did find a guy
who seems to be he had the really heavy duty one,
and I saw him on the street. He was looking
in the like there's little like spots of grass in between,
like the sidewalk in the street. He was just like
scanning those, and I'm like, hey, buddy, I gotta I
got a job for you. So we're gonna get that
guy out there, y'all will.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Do a follow up if we find anything. Yeah, I
don't know where it is. I mean, I kind of
think it is out there just for something. I like
the idea that there's going to just be a box
of cash out there.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
That would be great, That would be pretty pretty wild.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
So if that's the guy, you guys need to find,
it's your property now, you know. If it's a dead
dude in the box, sure, you know. But from the
paranormal side of things, I mean, you know, what what
could happen? I mean, if a guy is buried in
a place that he doesn't want to be buried, you
would think he would appear and say, Hey, like the
pen that flew across the room, Hey.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Fix this right?
Speaker 3 (22:21):
That makes me think he likes it. I don't know
if I don't want to move him, you know, but
I don't know. I don't know what you would do
if I want to know where it is. But I
don't necessarily want to move him either, because I feel
like that if nothing's gone bad so far, so maybe
I just leave things as they are.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
Yeah, and I don't know where he'd want to be, because,
you know, because.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
He didn't have any family.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
This guy. His plan was, Hey, do with me what
you will, sir, Cremate me and put me.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Somewhere, put me in put me in Easton and Allison's backyard.
That'd be awesome, all right. So you guys, basically, I
guess you know, I mean, it's not the typical haunted house,
but you guys kind of live in a haunted house
in a way, right or actually, you know what am
I saying this? This is a haunted house. It's mean,
I mean, listen to what you just said.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
I guess we do. And again I I was a
little more skeptical before this house, but we've had I
think the original bedroom, which is Euston's office, is where
a lot of the weird stuff has happened. Our dog
refused to go in there for years and years. We
had a friends stay in there when night. We have
a little guest bed. We hadn't told her anything, and
she said she woke up in the middle of the
night because all the papers on the desk were just
fell on the ground and there's no air vent or anything.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Really.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
We had another friend come by with his toddler, and
the toddler and the dog were just standing at the
door threshold staring into that room looking freaked out, and
we had to pick them up and move them because
they wouldn't come back. So something weird with that room.
I think it's maybe the room that she died and
if she's in there the original owners.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
And this might not be. This isn't like a scientific
way of measuring ghosts or paranum activity, but there was
there was a filter on TikTok, like a year ago.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Here we go.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
Yeah, it would it would make it would take an
image and use AI and make it like look like
a person, like.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
The SLS cam.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Yeah, you see those things where it looks like well,
if you if you guys don't know what we're talking about,
a lot of these ghost shows use it if you
if you do. For example, like a dance video game
one PlayStation, the camera is pointing towards you, It reads
your figure and it turns you into a stick figure.
Now the game will put like a face on you
and some animation, but the stick figures that what you're
talking about.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
Yes, it's it looks for like a humanoid figure and
then it will like put a character on top of it,
like it'll make it look like you know, sailor moon
or something like that. Gotcha, okay, And I think in
paranormal activity three these something like that.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
So this has been scientifically tested, This is a peer review,
This is scientific method, the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
So what people were doing was taking this filter and
taking pictures of their of rooms in their house with
no people in them, and seeing if it was able
to detect a figure, right, maybe not a different wavelength
on the electromagnetic field or something like that. So I,
of course I tried it throughout the house and it
wouldn't do anything. But then when I went in that room,
it had a figure in there and that was the
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only place in the house where it would work and resting.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Yeah, And then I don't know if this makes us
what we did a Ouiji board in there one time.
He did not want to do it. I made him
do it. Those things are, you know, And I didn't
really think anything would happen. I just thought this will
be fun. And we were in there and we just
asked it kind of as a joke because the dog
would never go in that room. I said, do you
like dogs? And it immediately went to know and both
of us wear we didn't push it. We were really
(25:21):
freaked out. I mean, it's scared. So again, I don't
know if that was us subconsciously, one of us messing
with the other. But yeah, I guess there's a reason
our dog didn't want to go in there. Whatever's in there,
didn't want him in there. Very strange.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Ouiji boards is strange because every time, just like what
you said, every time I've done one, you're looking at
the other person going did you push that? And you
don't know if they did or not, you know, And
I don't And I don't think I pushed it either.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
I don't think.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
So, but I've heard so many warnings don't don't mess
with them, which I get it. But the flip of
that is it's you know, it's it's in the toy section,
you know, could it be I went to Barnes and
Noble the other day over at the grove, I think
it was, and you know, there's games and this, and
there's weed board sitting there, like, what the heck do
you do?
Speaker 2 (26:04):
You guys?
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Well, am I missing any stories from the house or because.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Yeah, it's really weird. Oh, there's just been little things.
I had a surgery last year and I had a
physical therapist working with me at the house and she
had like a sheet over me and she was doing
something in my leg and she just stopped talking. She
was like mid sentencing, got really quiet, okay. And then
that was the first time I met with her. And
then she came back a few times later and we'd
sort of got more comfortable, and she said, do you
think your house is haunted? And I was like, what
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she said. I was working on you, and at a
spot where I could tell it was probably really hurting,
something lifted that sheet up and I thought, okay, that's weird.
I told her some of these stories and she's she's
not really a believer either, but she was a little
freaked out. So you know, I think it's a helpful ghost.
I think if we have spirit right, But it was
it was weird, just enough little things where like you said,
if it was one thing, I could explain it, but
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there's been so many small things that it is a
little strange. The python really freaked me out. Yeah, I
will never figure out that.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
And we still have the pieton.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
I have a photo, which I know is great for
a podcast, but I do have a picture.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
The pie tin just to relive that for a quick second.
The pie tin is hang is kind of it's over
the hole where the you know where the this is
a terrible description. It's over the whole thing. But it
just flies. It's it just flies across the room.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Yeah, I mean it really looked like like like pulled
it off the wall through it on the ground. It
didn't just fall down. It went several feet with a
great force. I mean, it was very strange. And again
there was carbon monoxide coming out, but nothing that would
be like pushing it out with that kind of force.
It was just so so weird, and I would have
thought I'd imagined it. But the gas coumpany guy looked
like he was going to cry. He was really freaked out.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
And just to fight off the skeptics here, is there
any other reason it would have flown off? I mean,
can you I mean, aside from air pushing it out,
which is not the case.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
You know, right, there's no cross ventilation.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
I mean there were nails holding it in.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Yeah, oh there were.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Yeah, it was like nailed on.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
But yeah, it wasn't like you know, it wasn't like
you couldn't pull it off. You could like pull it
off if you wanted.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
To, but it was but pretty secure.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
It wasn't gonna tip out or like fall out or anything.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
I know, Okay, gut feeling. I mean, I guess you
kind of already told me. What else could it have been?
Speaker 3 (28:05):
It's very weird.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
I mean, if we're talking, let's be super rational, but
still with the with you know, open mind. Somebody tell
me what else it could have been other than.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Yeah, you know listeners if you know right in I'm curious.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Do you hope you have more experiences in the house
or is it strange to be this is It's one
thing to go to the Stanley, but you know, this
is where you go you live.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
At I've never felt I mean, if anything, she's been helpful.
She may have saved us from carbon monoxide poison. It
feels very feminine to me. I don't know why I
always say she, but to me it feels like a woman.
But or maybe I don't know, but I've never felt
scared by it. I just didn't really. I've had weird
stuff happen, but not as much until we moved into
this house, and it's really changed how I think about
the idea of ghosts or spirits, and I've never felt
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a sinister vibe from this, so I don't mind her.
She's welcome in our home. I think. I think Euston
feels the same.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
Yeah, yeah, I agree. I never feel unsafe for like
anything weird is happening, you know, like aside from little
instances here there. But I enjoy it, and she's welcome,
and I'm as far as I'm a guest in her home.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Can I come stay that the room with the well
your office, that's the one in question right now? Right?
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Can I come? Is there like a place I could
camp out for the night in your office?
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (29:16):
I would love day the night.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Well, Luigi board out for you.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Can we do that? One of the hundred percent serious?
Speaker 4 (29:22):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Oh my god, okay, we have to do this. My god.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
You guys live in a haunted house. How exciting? How
long have you lived in a house?
Speaker 3 (29:29):
But then there's seven years, so hopefully we'll be there
a long time and hopefully we continue having bizarre experiences
because I think it's fun, even.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Though it might not be the lady that lived there
for thirty years after her husband passed. Uh?
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Is there a picture of her anywhere? Have you ever?
Speaker 3 (29:42):
No? I've tried to track her down. I have a history,
so our town is very cute. We had a town historian,
so he actually provided me with everyone that's ever lived
there I have a record of, but I haven't been
able to find anyone living other than the most recent
family that was there. The ones would be earned. So
I'm still working on it because I feel like there's
got to be some Fringd nieces or nephew. Is somebody
I could.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Talk to you.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
I would love to get a picture of the lady
that lived there and pasted there, I believe, right yeah,
and put it up somewhere and just you know, see
if she reacts to the past.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Right.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
I love that idea.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
That's a great idea.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Thank you guys so much for hanging out. Thank you
once again. That's Easton and Allison and they live in
on a house
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