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After a little bit of a hiatus, Paranormalish is back. What of guys,
It's j Jojo in the radio Andthis next episode, which I'm so
excited to finally get this thing out, it features an artist named Gunner.
Big shot to Gunner, we didn'teven plan to do this episode. He
came in to talk to someone elsehere at iHeart Burbank and me and Gunner
(00:21):
got to talking in the hallway andhe told me about this this insane,
this wild story. So immediately werushed to the studio and we recorded this
podcast. And he has a coupleof stories. First of all, the
main story, which takes place athis house. After he tells that story,
there's a few other smaller stories.Quick note. On one of those
smaller stories, he mentions a hotelin London. Something happened to him at
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this hotel. Well, he textsme about a week after we did it
and he said, hey, Jojo, correction, the hotel wasn't in London.
What happened to him actually took placeat a hotel in Dallas known as
the Adolphus Hotel Adlphus Adolphus Hotel.I hope I'm saying that name right,
but apparently this hotel is stunning,beautiful, luxurious, and insanely haunted if
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those stories are true. So maybedown the road I'll do an episode on
the Adolphus Hotel in Dallas. Butthis this podcast Beware of the Teddy Bear,
and we'll explain what that means soonenough. Yeah, in Joy Jojo
on the Radio Present Paranormal and Normal. Okay, I just met Gunner maybe
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ten minutes ago, fifteen minutes ago, and somehow that meeting, Hey,
how you doing, Nice to meetyou, turned into holy crap, you've
got a paranormal like this is alegit story, legit story. Okay.
First of all, dude, niceto meet you, Jojo. It is
such an honor. I've listened toyou on the radio for years, and
I've listened to the Paranormal podcast onthe I heard ido when you told me
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that. I thought you said I'minto the paranormal, but I'm still kind
of that you check down, Oh, parent absolutely checked it out. I
love this shit. Okay, Ilove this shit. So okay, so
this what what're about to tell me? Give me all every detail. I'm
going to give you the whole thing. So I I've always loved, like
been into paranormal stuff. I fullybelieve in it, but you know,
you grow up and you always havedoubts. Right, You're like, I
believe it, I've never seen itwith my own eyes, so it's hard
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to like be one hundred percent certain. So and I'm not sure if we'll
ever be one hundred percent, whichis fine, maybe not whatever, maybe
not. So I got a placein La. I moved out of my
child at home. I got myfirst ever house in LA and you know,
I was very big on like thisis my first place. I want
to get the house, you know, uh saged and the whole the energy
thing. I was like, thisis what feels right. You know,
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I've grown up seeing paranormal activities andall this stuff. It just feels right
to do. I've always been afraidof ghosts every time, Like I grew
up being afraid at you know,I'd always say I feel things or when
it's dark, I'd be freaked out. And so I move into this house.
I don't feel scared. I don'tfeel scared, but I feel a
little bit weird at times where likemaybe I hear something, maybe I just
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feel some sort of presence. ButIt doesn't scare me. It just makes
me feel a little uneasy, likeyou could tell you feel like somebody's watching
you. Not someone's I just feellike there's something there. But again,
I grew up being terrified, andlike if I heard or felt anything,
I'd be super nervous, thinking,like, you know, I'm gonna get
haunted or whatever. But this wasfor the first time in my life I
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felt something. But I wasn't scared. I wasn't like, this didn't feel
like a horribly negative, bad ghostor energy or whatever it was. And
so backstory here, there's this teddybear, this giant teddy bear I bought
for my girlfriend at one of thosecorny fairs. Okay, put it in
this room in the house, andevery time to walk to my bedroom,
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you have to walk past this room. And so you know this, every
time I'd walked past, the teddybear was just kind of sitting in the
edge of the room and it wouldkind of spook me out a little bit,
a little bit freaky. And somy girlfriend and I after a few
months, were like, we gottaput this thing in the closet because it's
a little freaky, Okay, Andlike I said, I wanted to say
to the house and do the wholething, but I never got around to
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it. I just never got aroundto it. And my girlfriend's mother who
comes and stays at the house sometimeswhen we're gone to watch the dog whatever,
she is super super in connected tospirits and energy, and you know,
there's I could go on a wholetangent about what she's had happened in
her life. You know, shewas pregnant with my girlfriend. Four separate
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doctors told her that there was noshe wasn't pregnant, you know, that
something had happened. There was noheartbeat, the baby wasn't there. She
went on her honeymoon, she wouldn'tdrink, she wouldn't you know. She
believed truly that there was a babyinside of her, even though four separate
doctors had told her otherwise. Andshe woke up in the middle of the
night one night after a dream ofher two sons walking holding a holding hands
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with a little girl in the middlewith blonde hair, saying, Mom,
this is our sister Elizabeth. Andsure thing, you know, she went
back after her honeymoon. Baby wasthere, Harpy was there, and my
girlfriend. His name's Elizabeth now.So she's been always like that, She's
always had whoa those kind of connectionsand those kind of spiritual things happen.
So every time she stay at thehouse, she'd say, I keep hearing
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footsteps upstairs. And I was alwayslike, I never hear that. There's
maybe there's squirrels on the roof.I don't know, I never hear that.
So finally it's one night. Mygirlfriend I are sitting in bed.
She's on one side of the bed, I'm on the other. We're in
some sort of a tiff about somethingstupid, probably she's reading a book,
and we have a standing mirror onthe floor that like you know, is
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angled up. My dog has neverdone this before, goes ballistic. He
is staring in the mirror up abovemy girlfriend's head, which is the corner
of our bedroom, going ballistic.Oh and I've never heard him do this
before. He's running around the halltrying to find like thinking that maybe the
windows a me I mean, thinkingthe mirror is a window, trying to
see where that is. He seessomething, and I'm like freaked out.
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My girlfriend and I are freaked out. We're like, okay, it's time,
Like I got to call somebody.It's time. This is months after
I'm like, it is, thisis this is finally the motivation I needed
to get this done. So Icall a friend of mine who is super
spiritual and into all this stuff,and she connects me with two people who
come over and kind of are goingto clear the house of energy. So
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they come over. It's a couple, a man and a woman. They
come over. You know, they'resuper nice people, They're super normal,
you know. And I say,look, I have you here for a
reason, right. I believe thatthere's something going on here, but part
of me is always still a littleunsure. There's one specific room in this
house that freaks me and my girlfriendout more than any other room. Can
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we just walk around and see if, you you know, can tell which
room it is? Absolutely So westart walking around one bedroom. Okay,
this is a little interesting. Okay, you know the kitchen, all right?
All right, go upstairs. Themoment that this woman opens the door
into this bedroom, she goes,this is the room. We need to
do this right now. And I'mlike, what is going on? What
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is going on? She needs allthe lights in the house off, lighting
candles. She makes my girlfriend,and I put crystals over our hearts,
like on crystal necklaces to protect usfrom you know, maybe the spirit grabbing
on to us or whatever. Ihave to hold my dog because put a
crystal over him. The whole thing, and I'm freaked out. At this
point. It's hits black. It'seleven PM at night, and two strangers
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are in my house saying that there'sa spirit that they need to get rid
of right now. So our wholething is the way that she connects with
these spirits. She does DMT.That's apparently how she gets to that level
where she can communicate with these spirits. So here we are in my house.
This woman is smoking DMT on thebed of this guest bedroom, and
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my dog is freaked out. Hewon't enter the room. He's like super
skittish. She's freaked out, soshe ends up going into this and you
know, she drops into the placewhere she can communicate with these things,
and she's crying and she's you know, not being verbal, but something communicating
with something. She crawls down ontothe floor and you know she's doing all
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making all these noises and you know, having some sort of communication. And
then it ends She's like, Ineed to do it again. I was,
I was, I was having aconversation. I need to do it
again. So she does another hitover DMT. She I'm telling you,
this is this is crazy, butthis is I swear, this is as
real as it gets. So shedoes d EMPTY again. She's on the
floor, she's crying, she's crying. She she goes to the closet,
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a sliding closet, slides the thingover. And remember I told you,
my girlfriend, I put the teddybear in the back of the closet because
it had been freaking us out right. She opens the closet, goes straight
to the back of the closet,pulls this teddy bear out, has no
idea that it's there. She pullsthis teddy bear out. She's telling her
partner to open the window, Pleaseopen the window, open the window.
So he does, and she goesfrom bawling crying to like, in one
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instant, laughing, just completely laughing, happy, you know, just like
something had completely cleared. My dogat the exact same moment, who wouldn't
enter the room, walks over tothe corner of the closet where the teddy
bear was lays down, stomach up, like as content as he could possibly
be. Where the teddy bear was, where the teddybear closet, like where
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she pulled the teddy bear out ofthe closet. She told the guy opened
the window. He opened the window, and then she starts laughing as she's
still like enter trance. My dogcomes in, he's belly up all of
a sudden, super comfortable. Shecomes to and she says, there was
a child's spirit that I don't knowif it died here or if this was
just a place that it had beenin the past where it was comfortable,
but it came and it grabbed ontothis teddy bear and this is where it
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felt comfortable. And all I hadto do was was, you know,
open the window and show this spiritthat angels were ready to take it to
heaven, that it didn't need tobe scared. And so she said,
you know, it was gone rightthat the child spirit was gone. And
the child spirit makes sense why Iwas. I felt something, but I
wasn't scared or nervous, you know. Oh yeah, So I'm like,
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wow, this is crazy, thisis wild. I can't believe it's happened.
And that's kind of that for thatnight. Right, So she sages
the whole house, she sprays thisholy water everywhere, and she says,
this, the spirit's gone. Everything'syou know, there was definitely something here,
but the angels took it to heaven. Okay. And so I'm like,
great, right, I'm five percentsure that this happened. Maybe it
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was complete bullshit, but I waslike, you know, this girl came
into my house, she did DMT, and she took the spirit and now
it's gone. Right, that's thestory. Welcome to La. Welcome to
La. Exactly the next day,my one of my really good friends,
he came over every day. Hewas like training me at my house in
my backyard. He'd come every day. Super religious guy, super religious,
comes every single day. He comesthrough the door the next morning and had
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no idea any of this happened.Goes, what happened in here? He
goes, the energy in here isso light today? What happened? And
so my girlfriend I are like,whoa, Okay, this is pretty cool.
So maybe something, maybe it wasreal, maybe it really happened.
So closed the chapter on that.We're like, great again, eighty five
percent, ninety percent sure it worked. That's that about two weeks later,
I get in an argument with myneighbor, not an actual argument, but
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Gardner like broke her pipe and shewas upset, and so I was talking
to her and you know, beingnice and neighborly, and she kind of
calmed down and was like, I'msorry for you know, reacting like that.
I've just the last two people whohave lived in this house have just
given me basically hell, because they'vebeen horrible, horrible neighbors, et cetera,
et cetera. The last people thatlived in your house. Huh okay,
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And she says, yeah, thepeople who lived here before. The
last people. She said, theyran a daycare out of this house.
Oh my god. And they shesaid they ran a daycare. There was
just, you know, tens ofkids coming in every single day. And
she's like and randomly one day theyjust disappeared. They left everything in the
house, they just disappeared and nevercame back. So in my head,
I'm like, child spirit daycare likethat. To me, she had obviously
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no clue any of this happened.That was like the final step to me.
It confirmed everything that had happened.You know, while that lady was
at the house, and so shestraight up said that there was a daycare
running out of my house and thatone day the people who were running it
just disappeared, Which makes you thinksomething happened, Something happened. Why do
you leave so quick? But youknow when you when you when I have
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a feeling, but it doesn't freakme out. Then she says this lady
says it was a child spirit.Great that checks that checks that box.
Next day trainer comes says, theenergy in the house is completely different,
had no idea any of it happened, just says, says that out of
the blue. That's another check.But when the neighbor two weeks later says
that there was a child's daycare thatran out of that house until one day
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they just disappeared, I'm like,that's that? What in the world's that?
And so now I am a fullbeliever that this has happened. Now
this is the house you you stilllive in, This still live in the
house. Nothing since I would beyou know, have you ever done any
just downe of curious, Maybe youdon't want to know this, but have
you done any research on did someoneno clue? No this I even want
to know? No, no,desire because you've kind of cleared it up
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anyway. I'm good it's gone,you know, all everything checked out,
and I'm good. I don't needto do the research on it. I
don't want to know. And I'mtelling you, I'm a normal guy.
I've always yeah, I've believed inthis stuff, but I've always been doubtful,
right, Like you know, I'venever been one hundred percent certain.
So when this happened, she knewexactly what room it was without me telling
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her. She explained the child spirit, and then the trainer, and then
the neighbors, saying the kids,Like I'm telling you, as a normal
person, this was the first experienceI've had where I was like, there's
not one part of this that doesn'tadd up, Like everything independently adds to
this story being a true story.Like that is so since that I'm a
full believer, and I'm like,I'm certain that that happened. I'm certain
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that there was something there and thatit's gone now, and that it was
a child spirit. Now that's allkind of wrapped up. Are you glad
this thing happened? Are you gladto experienced this? You'd rather kind of
like, yeah, no, I'mthrilled that this happened, because again I
grew up, I was always nervousat this and so when I was when
I felt a presence, but Iwasn't scared of it. I was like,
I got to get this house,like, you know, clear it
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of this energy at some point.So when this thing finally happened and my
dog was going crazy in the mirror, I was like, Okay, I'm
gonna do it. And to knowthat, I mean, she could have
come in there and done whatever andsaid it's gone, and I would have
never known, you know, i'dbelieve her, maybe I wouldn't. But
then to have the other parts independentlycheck out to the same story, it
was like, I'm thrilled because nowI don't have that feeling anymore. Have
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you had any other experience, notin the house, but any other places
in the house, or just anyin anywhere in the world. I mean,
And the reason I ask this isbecause you've had this one encounter obviously,
so you kind of have a yousee how it works. Mm hmm.
Plus you as an artist, youtravel around saying hotels a lot,
and you'd be surprised how many ofthese hotels I have won this before or
after the house. This was thisis way before. This is probably three
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or four years ago. Were youthere. No, that's a good one
too. That one, I neversaw anything that just gave me. That
just was like you know, whenyou feel something, you know it's not
right right. But there was nolike evidence for that one. This one,
I think we were in London actually, and there was. We were
staying in a hotel and for whateverreason, I was in the room by
myself. My drummer, who normallyshares a room with me, was at
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a bar or something with some otherguys. We had a show, so
I was getting a bed early andI was freaked out. It's just like
a spooky, eerie room. Thewindow opened up and all you could see
was like the corner of the building, Like there was no view. It
was just an eerie little room.And I kept hearing noise above, like
in the in the ceiling, likepeople were running around upstairs. And it's
like ten eleven pm. I'm tryingto go to bed, so I'm called
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the front desk. I said,hey, you know, this is the
room I'm in. The people aboveme are making noise, you know,
is there any way you can calland just ask them to, you know,
be quiet. And she was like, well, above you is the
gym. But the gym closes atsix pm on no one's allowed in there.
And I was like, I'm hearingpeople running around upstairs, like,
is there a chance that people aremaybe in there that's snuck in there?
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She goes, she calls me back, there's nobody in the gym, oh
man. So I'm like, ohgod, this is terrifying. Right we
go again by myself. I'm like, camp, please come to my room,
Jack please, Like, I'm freakingout. And about thirty minutes later,
as I'm like starting to fall asleepin the hallway outside the door,
i hear someone sprinting, like likesprinting down the hall and I'm like,
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I'm freaked out. It sounds likethey're coming close to my door. And
then they get to my door silence. I'm I'm not the guy that's going
to the door by the way tolike open it and check. I'm hiding
under the covers, like this isterrifying. So that happened that I was
freaked out. Apparently that hotel,when you search it, the story of
that hotel was the floor above me, which was the gym. There was
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a like in the sixties, youknow, a long time ago, there
was a wedding and the man stoodup the wife and so the wife killed
herself in that hotel. No,and that hotel is like a notoriously known
haunted hotel in London. And Ifound all that out after the fact.
Can you do you recall the nameof the hotel? I would have to
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look because I was posting all thison my Instagram and I was like,
I could find it, but no, I don't know off the top of
my head. Hit me up andlet me know. I would love to
get will some noodle in on thatas well? I will, dude,
Yeah, do you think that?Do you have a gift? I don't
think so. Those are the onlytwo I've had. My girlfriend's mother is
like she has a gift where shesees things she had her grandmother. I'll
end on this one. Her grandmother, Uh, my girlfriend's mom's grandmother,
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Okay, who she was really reallyclose with. She was in a home
she was not doing very well.And my girlfriend's mom was going back and
forth from Michigan to Vegas where shelives, visiting her then coming home and
visiting her and just trying to spendtime with her. And she was back
home in Vegas. Same thing.She had a dream. She had a
dream where her grandmother was saying elevenseven, eleven seven, eleven seven,
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and it was like November fourth.She had just left Michigan. She was
back home and she had this dreameleven seven, eleven seven, and she
knew, she's like November seventh,something's gonna happen, Like I need to
go back. Instantly booked a flightback to Michigan, got there on the
sixth, spent the day with her, and her grandmother died the morning of
the seventh. No kidding, manthat this is no words. Yeah,
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it's just so fascinating. Yeah,and your girlfriend's mom, I mean,
I wonder if she enjoys the Imean sometimes I'll ask people this that have
that gift? Is it? Canyou turn it on and off? Is
there an on off switch? Shedoesn't get by it. She something about
I'm telling you she has more experiencesthan anyone I've ever heard, Like she
had one where she has it oncamera. Actually, and I'll send you
this too, because on our shehas a camera in her living room and
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she's sitting watching TV and her dogsstart going crazy and behind her in the
kitchen, the cabinets open and shut. Oh man, yeah, to be
continued, let's see. I wouldlove to have you come back and maybe
bring yeah, bring her, bringher and your girlfriends, I mean,
your schedules. Just know that's such. That's a no brainer. That's a
no brainer. Thank you for thankyou, Thank you so much, dude,
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thank you. I'm glad this allworks out. And again, for
everyone who's listening, I'm aware thatit's easy to hear these stories and doubt
and have like, oh, that'sgot to be a lie. I am
a normal guy. This is notI'm not a ghost hunter. I'm nowhere
near any of that. I'm justa guy who makes music. This is
shit that's happened to me in myreal life. I'm telling you one hundred
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percent, all these stories are asauthentic and real as possible. So I
believe in this shit now for sure.
After a little bit of a hiatus, Paranormalish is back. What of guys,
It's j Jojo in the radio Andthis next episode, which I'm so
excited to finally get this thing out, it features an artist named Gunner.
Big shot to Gunner, we didn'teven plan to do this episode. He
came in to talk to someone elsehere at iHeart Burbank and me and Gunner
(00:21):
got to talking in the hallway andhe told me about this this insane,
this wild story. So immediately werushed to the studio and we recorded this
podcast. And he has a coupleof stories. First of all, the
main story, which takes place athis house. After he tells that story,
there's a few other smaller stories.Quick note. On one of those
smaller stories, he mentions a hotelin London. Something happened to him at
(00:45):
this hotel. Well, he textsme about a week after we did it
and he said, hey, Jojo, correction, the hotel wasn't in London.
What happened to him actually took placeat a hotel in Dallas known as
the Adolphus Hotel Adlphus Adolphus Hotel.I hope I'm saying that name right,
but apparently this hotel is stunning,beautiful, luxurious, and insanely haunted if
(01:08):
those stories are true. So maybedown the road I'll do an episode on
the Adolphus Hotel in Dallas. Butthis this podcast Beware of the Teddy Bear,
and we'll explain what that means soonenough. Yeah, in Joy Jojo
on the Radio Present Paranormal and Normal. Okay, I just met Gunner maybe
(01:34):
ten minutes ago, fifteen minutes ago, and somehow that meeting, Hey,
how you doing, Nice to meetyou, turned into holy crap, you've
got a paranormal like this is alegit story, legit story. Okay.
First of all, dude, niceto meet you, Jojo. It is
such an honor. I've listened toyou on the radio for years, and
I've listened to the Paranormal podcast onthe I heard ido when you told me
(01:56):
that. I thought you said I'minto the paranormal, but I'm still kind
of that you check down, Oh, parent absolutely checked it out. I
love this shit. Okay, Ilove this shit. So okay, so
this what what're about to tell me? Give me all every detail. I'm
going to give you the whole thing. So I I've always loved, like
been into paranormal stuff. I fullybelieve in it, but you know,
you grow up and you always havedoubts. Right, You're like, I
believe it, I've never seen itwith my own eyes, so it's hard
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to like be one hundred percent certain. So and I'm not sure if we'll
ever be one hundred percent, whichis fine, maybe not whatever, maybe
not. So I got a placein La. I moved out of my
child at home. I got myfirst ever house in LA and you know,
I was very big on like thisis my first place. I want
to get the house, you know, uh saged and the whole the energy
thing. I was like, thisis what feels right. You know,
(02:40):
I've grown up seeing paranormal activities andall this stuff. It just feels right
to do. I've always been afraidof ghosts every time, Like I grew
up being afraid at you know,I'd always say I feel things or when
it's dark, I'd be freaked out. And so I move into this house.
I don't feel scared. I don'tfeel scared, but I feel a
little bit weird at times where likemaybe I hear something, maybe I just
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feel some sort of presence. ButIt doesn't scare me. It just makes
me feel a little uneasy, likeyou could tell you feel like somebody's watching
you. Not someone's I just feellike there's something there. But again,
I grew up being terrified, andlike if I heard or felt anything,
I'd be super nervous, thinking,like, you know, I'm gonna get
haunted or whatever. But this wasfor the first time in my life I
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felt something. But I wasn't scared. I wasn't like, this didn't feel
like a horribly negative, bad ghostor energy or whatever it was. And
so backstory here, there's this teddybear, this giant teddy bear I bought
for my girlfriend at one of thosecorny fairs. Okay, put it in
this room in the house, andevery time to walk to my bedroom,
(03:42):
you have to walk past this room. And so you know this, every
time I'd walked past, the teddybear was just kind of sitting in the
edge of the room and it wouldkind of spook me out a little bit,
a little bit freaky. And somy girlfriend and I after a few
months, were like, we gottaput this thing in the closet because it's
a little freaky, Okay, Andlike I said, I wanted to say
to the house and do the wholething, but I never got around to
(04:03):
it. I just never got aroundto it. And my girlfriend's mother who
comes and stays at the house sometimeswhen we're gone to watch the dog whatever,
she is super super in connected tospirits and energy, and you know,
there's I could go on a wholetangent about what she's had happened in
her life. You know, shewas pregnant with my girlfriend. Four separate
(04:25):
doctors told her that there was noshe wasn't pregnant, you know, that
something had happened. There was noheartbeat, the baby wasn't there. She
went on her honeymoon, she wouldn'tdrink, she wouldn't you know. She
believed truly that there was a babyinside of her, even though four separate
doctors had told her otherwise. Andshe woke up in the middle of the
night one night after a dream ofher two sons walking holding a holding hands
(04:48):
with a little girl in the middlewith blonde hair, saying, Mom,
this is our sister Elizabeth. Andsure thing, you know, she went
back after her honeymoon. Baby wasthere, Harpy was there, and my
girlfriend. His name's Elizabeth now.So she's been always like that, She's
always had whoa those kind of connectionsand those kind of spiritual things happen.
So every time she stay at thehouse, she'd say, I keep hearing
(05:10):
footsteps upstairs. And I was alwayslike, I never hear that. There's
maybe there's squirrels on the roof.I don't know, I never hear that.
So finally it's one night. Mygirlfriend I are sitting in bed.
She's on one side of the bed, I'm on the other. We're in
some sort of a tiff about somethingstupid, probably she's reading a book,
and we have a standing mirror onthe floor that like you know, is
(05:31):
angled up. My dog has neverdone this before, goes ballistic. He
is staring in the mirror up abovemy girlfriend's head, which is the corner
of our bedroom, going ballistic.Oh and I've never heard him do this
before. He's running around the halltrying to find like thinking that maybe the
windows a me I mean, thinkingthe mirror is a window, trying to
see where that is. He seessomething, and I'm like freaked out.
(05:55):
My girlfriend and I are freaked out. We're like, okay, it's time,
Like I got to call somebody.It's time. This is months after
I'm like, it is, thisis this is finally the motivation I needed
to get this done. So Icall a friend of mine who is super
spiritual and into all this stuff,and she connects me with two people who
come over and kind of are goingto clear the house of energy. So
(06:17):
they come over. It's a couple, a man and a woman. They
come over. You know, they'resuper nice people, They're super normal,
you know. And I say,look, I have you here for a
reason, right. I believe thatthere's something going on here, but part
of me is always still a littleunsure. There's one specific room in this
house that freaks me and my girlfriendout more than any other room. Can
(06:41):
we just walk around and see if, you you know, can tell which
room it is? Absolutely So westart walking around one bedroom. Okay,
this is a little interesting. Okay, you know the kitchen, all right?
All right, go upstairs. Themoment that this woman opens the door
into this bedroom, she goes,this is the room. We need to
do this right now. And I'mlike, what is going on? What
(07:02):
is going on? She needs allthe lights in the house off, lighting
candles. She makes my girlfriend,and I put crystals over our hearts,
like on crystal necklaces to protect usfrom you know, maybe the spirit grabbing
on to us or whatever. Ihave to hold my dog because put a
crystal over him. The whole thing, and I'm freaked out. At this
point. It's hits black. It'seleven PM at night, and two strangers
(07:25):
are in my house saying that there'sa spirit that they need to get rid
of right now. So our wholething is the way that she connects with
these spirits. She does DMT.That's apparently how she gets to that level
where she can communicate with these spirits. So here we are in my house.
This woman is smoking DMT on thebed of this guest bedroom, and
(07:46):
my dog is freaked out. Hewon't enter the room. He's like super
skittish. She's freaked out, soshe ends up going into this and you
know, she drops into the placewhere she can communicate with these things,
and she's crying and she's you know, not being verbal, but something communicating
with something. She crawls down ontothe floor and you know she's doing all
(08:11):
making all these noises and you know, having some sort of communication. And
then it ends She's like, Ineed to do it again. I was,
I was, I was having aconversation. I need to do it
again. So she does another hitover DMT. She I'm telling you,
this is this is crazy, butthis is I swear, this is as
real as it gets. So shedoes d EMPTY again. She's on the
floor, she's crying, she's crying. She she goes to the closet,
(08:35):
a sliding closet, slides the thingover. And remember I told you,
my girlfriend, I put the teddybear in the back of the closet because
it had been freaking us out right. She opens the closet, goes straight
to the back of the closet,pulls this teddy bear out, has no
idea that it's there. She pullsthis teddy bear out. She's telling her
partner to open the window, Pleaseopen the window, open the window.
So he does, and she goesfrom bawling crying to like, in one
(08:58):
instant, laughing, just completely laughing, happy, you know, just like
something had completely cleared. My dogat the exact same moment, who wouldn't
enter the room, walks over tothe corner of the closet where the teddy
bear was lays down, stomach up, like as content as he could possibly
be. Where the teddy bear was, where the teddybear closet, like where
(09:20):
she pulled the teddy bear out ofthe closet. She told the guy opened
the window. He opened the window, and then she starts laughing as she's
still like enter trance. My dogcomes in, he's belly up all of
a sudden, super comfortable. Shecomes to and she says, there was
a child's spirit that I don't knowif it died here or if this was
just a place that it had beenin the past where it was comfortable,
but it came and it grabbed ontothis teddy bear and this is where it
(09:41):
felt comfortable. And all I hadto do was was, you know,
open the window and show this spiritthat angels were ready to take it to
heaven, that it didn't need tobe scared. And so she said,
you know, it was gone rightthat the child spirit was gone. And
the child spirit makes sense why Iwas. I felt something, but I
wasn't scared or nervous, you know. Oh yeah, So I'm like,
(10:01):
wow, this is crazy, thisis wild. I can't believe it's happened.
And that's kind of that for thatnight. Right, So she sages
the whole house, she sprays thisholy water everywhere, and she says,
this, the spirit's gone. Everything'syou know, there was definitely something here,
but the angels took it to heaven. Okay. And so I'm like,
great, right, I'm five percentsure that this happened. Maybe it
(10:24):
was complete bullshit, but I waslike, you know, this girl came
into my house, she did DMT, and she took the spirit and now
it's gone. Right, that's thestory. Welcome to La. Welcome to
La. Exactly the next day,my one of my really good friends,
he came over every day. Hewas like training me at my house in
my backyard. He'd come every day. Super religious guy, super religious,
comes every single day. He comesthrough the door the next morning and had
(10:48):
no idea any of this happened.Goes, what happened in here? He
goes, the energy in here isso light today? What happened? And
so my girlfriend I are like,whoa, Okay, this is pretty cool.
So maybe something, maybe it wasreal, maybe it really happened.
So closed the chapter on that.We're like, great again, eighty five
percent, ninety percent sure it worked. That's that about two weeks later,
I get in an argument with myneighbor, not an actual argument, but
(11:09):
Gardner like broke her pipe and shewas upset, and so I was talking
to her and you know, beingnice and neighborly, and she kind of
calmed down and was like, I'msorry for you know, reacting like that.
I've just the last two people whohave lived in this house have just
given me basically hell, because they'vebeen horrible, horrible neighbors, et cetera,
et cetera. The last people thatlived in your house. Huh okay,
(11:30):
And she says, yeah, thepeople who lived here before. The
last people. She said, theyran a daycare out of this house.
Oh my god. And they shesaid they ran a daycare. There was
just, you know, tens ofkids coming in every single day. And
she's like and randomly one day theyjust disappeared. They left everything in the
house, they just disappeared and nevercame back. So in my head,
I'm like, child spirit daycare likethat. To me, she had obviously
(11:56):
no clue any of this happened.That was like the final step to me.
It confirmed everything that had happened.You know, while that lady was
at the house, and so shestraight up said that there was a daycare
running out of my house and thatone day the people who were running it
just disappeared, Which makes you thinksomething happened, Something happened. Why do
you leave so quick? But youknow when you when you when I have
(12:16):
a feeling, but it doesn't freakme out. Then she says this lady
says it was a child spirit.Great that checks that checks that box.
Next day trainer comes says, theenergy in the house is completely different,
had no idea any of it happened, just says, says that out of
the blue. That's another check.But when the neighbor two weeks later says
that there was a child's daycare thatran out of that house until one day
(12:39):
they just disappeared, I'm like,that's that? What in the world's that?
And so now I am a fullbeliever that this has happened. Now
this is the house you you stilllive in, This still live in the
house. Nothing since I would beyou know, have you ever done any
just downe of curious, Maybe youdon't want to know this, but have
you done any research on did someoneno clue? No this I even want
to know? No, no,desire because you've kind of cleared it up
(13:01):
anyway. I'm good it's gone,you know, all everything checked out,
and I'm good. I don't needto do the research on it. I
don't want to know. And I'mtelling you, I'm a normal guy.
I've always yeah, I've believed inthis stuff, but I've always been doubtful,
right, Like you know, I'venever been one hundred percent certain.
So when this happened, she knewexactly what room it was without me telling
(13:22):
her. She explained the child spirit, and then the trainer, and then
the neighbors, saying the kids,Like I'm telling you, as a normal
person, this was the first experienceI've had where I was like, there's
not one part of this that doesn'tadd up, Like everything independently adds to
this story being a true story.Like that is so since that I'm a
full believer, and I'm like,I'm certain that that happened. I'm certain
(13:45):
that there was something there and thatit's gone now, and that it was
a child spirit. Now that's allkind of wrapped up. Are you glad
this thing happened? Are you gladto experienced this? You'd rather kind of
like, yeah, no, I'mthrilled that this happened, because again I
grew up, I was always nervousat this and so when I was when
I felt a presence, but Iwasn't scared of it. I was like,
I got to get this house,like, you know, clear it
(14:05):
of this energy at some point.So when this thing finally happened and my
dog was going crazy in the mirror, I was like, Okay, I'm
gonna do it. And to knowthat, I mean, she could have
come in there and done whatever andsaid it's gone, and I would have
never known, you know, i'dbelieve her, maybe I wouldn't. But
then to have the other parts independentlycheck out to the same story, it
was like, I'm thrilled because nowI don't have that feeling anymore. Have
(14:28):
you had any other experience, notin the house, but any other places
in the house, or just anyin anywhere in the world. I mean,
And the reason I ask this isbecause you've had this one encounter obviously,
so you kind of have a yousee how it works. Mm hmm.
Plus you as an artist, youtravel around saying hotels a lot,
and you'd be surprised how many ofthese hotels I have won this before or
after the house. This was thisis way before. This is probably three
(14:50):
or four years ago. Were youthere. No, that's a good one
too. That one, I neversaw anything that just gave me. That
just was like you know, whenyou feel something, you know it's not
right right. But there was nolike evidence for that one. This one,
I think we were in London actually, and there was. We were
staying in a hotel and for whateverreason, I was in the room by
myself. My drummer, who normallyshares a room with me, was at
(15:13):
a bar or something with some otherguys. We had a show, so
I was getting a bed early andI was freaked out. It's just like
a spooky, eerie room. Thewindow opened up and all you could see
was like the corner of the building, Like there was no view. It
was just an eerie little room.And I kept hearing noise above, like
in the in the ceiling, likepeople were running around upstairs. And it's
like ten eleven pm. I'm tryingto go to bed, so I'm called
(15:35):
the front desk. I said,hey, you know, this is the
room I'm in. The people aboveme are making noise, you know,
is there any way you can calland just ask them to, you know,
be quiet. And she was like, well, above you is the
gym. But the gym closes atsix pm on no one's allowed in there.
And I was like, I'm hearingpeople running around upstairs, like,
is there a chance that people aremaybe in there that's snuck in there?
(15:58):
She goes, she calls me back, there's nobody in the gym, oh
man. So I'm like, ohgod, this is terrifying. Right we
go again by myself. I'm like, camp, please come to my room,
Jack please, Like, I'm freakingout. And about thirty minutes later,
as I'm like starting to fall asleepin the hallway outside the door,
i hear someone sprinting, like likesprinting down the hall and I'm like,
(16:21):
I'm freaked out. It sounds likethey're coming close to my door. And
then they get to my door silence. I'm I'm not the guy that's going
to the door by the way tolike open it and check. I'm hiding
under the covers, like this isterrifying. So that happened that I was
freaked out. Apparently that hotel,when you search it, the story of
that hotel was the floor above me, which was the gym. There was
(16:42):
a like in the sixties, youknow, a long time ago, there
was a wedding and the man stoodup the wife and so the wife killed
herself in that hotel. No,and that hotel is like a notoriously known
haunted hotel in London. And Ifound all that out after the fact.
Can you do you recall the nameof the hotel? I would have to
(17:02):
look because I was posting all thison my Instagram and I was like,
I could find it, but no, I don't know off the top of
my head. Hit me up andlet me know. I would love to
get will some noodle in on thatas well? I will, dude,
Yeah, do you think that?Do you have a gift? I don't
think so. Those are the onlytwo I've had. My girlfriend's mother is
like she has a gift where shesees things she had her grandmother. I'll
end on this one. Her grandmother, Uh, my girlfriend's mom's grandmother,
(17:26):
Okay, who she was really reallyclose with. She was in a home
she was not doing very well.And my girlfriend's mom was going back and
forth from Michigan to Vegas where shelives, visiting her then coming home and
visiting her and just trying to spendtime with her. And she was back
home in Vegas. Same thing.She had a dream. She had a
dream where her grandmother was saying elevenseven, eleven seven, eleven seven,
(17:47):
and it was like November fourth.She had just left Michigan. She was
back home and she had this dreameleven seven, eleven seven, and she
knew, she's like November seventh,something's gonna happen, Like I need to
go back. Instantly booked a flightback to Michigan, got there on the
sixth, spent the day with her, and her grandmother died the morning of
the seventh. No kidding, manthat this is no words. Yeah,
(18:11):
it's just so fascinating. Yeah,and your girlfriend's mom, I mean,
I wonder if she enjoys the Imean sometimes I'll ask people this that have
that gift? Is it? Canyou turn it on and off? Is
there an on off switch? Shedoesn't get by it. She something about
I'm telling you she has more experiencesthan anyone I've ever heard, Like she
had one where she has it oncamera. Actually, and I'll send you
this too, because on our shehas a camera in her living room and
(18:34):
she's sitting watching TV and her dogsstart going crazy and behind her in the
kitchen, the cabinets open and shut. Oh man, yeah, to be
continued, let's see. I wouldlove to have you come back and maybe
bring yeah, bring her, bringher and your girlfriends, I mean,
your schedules. Just know that's such. That's a no brainer. That's a
no brainer. Thank you for thankyou, Thank you so much, dude,
(18:56):
thank you. I'm glad this allworks out. And again, for
everyone who's listening, I'm aware thatit's easy to hear these stories and doubt
and have like, oh, that'sgot to be a lie. I am
a normal guy. This is notI'm not a ghost hunter. I'm nowhere
near any of that. I'm justa guy who makes music. This is
shit that's happened to me in myreal life. I'm telling you one hundred
(19:17):
percent, all these stories are asauthentic and real as possible. So I
believe in this shit now for sure.
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