Living In 2 Haunted Houses

She's lived in 2 haunted houses, she's had some frightening encounters, must hear Shannon's story!!!

Episode Transcript

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Welcome to Paranormalish. What's up,guys. This is Jojo Wright got another
good one for you. This oneI've titled it Living in Two Haunted Houses
because Shannon, who you'll meet ina second Shannon has lived in two haunted
houses. And she had a jobat one point that had a bit of

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a frightening history. The place sheworked at used to be a funeral home,
which I'll let her explain everything.But she's seen some crazy stuff.
She is so fascinating and she's supernice. I hope at some point she'll
do some more podcasts with me becauseshe's got some crazy just the best stories
ever. But they're more than stories. This is just this is her life.
And wait, do you hear?All Right, let's get into it.

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This is living in two Haunted Houses. Jojo on the radio present Paranormal Normal
is Shannon. Are you Are youready for this? I'm ready? All
right, I'm talking to Shannon.Shan. How do I say? Your
last name is Shannon? No doubt? Okay, Shannon, no doll.

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She lives here in southern California.I'm not sure if you want to say
what city you live in, Iwon't say right now. Well, right
now I'm in Rancho Puka manga,but we'll kind of keep my childhood films
private. There we go, allright. She's got a fascinating story,
and you know, I guess I'mnot sure where to start at, but
I know when we first signed onto this zoom, the first thing you
said was, Jojo, my family'scrazy. You're gonna love my mom and

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you give her limited access to wigiboards, what guinea or something along those
lines. Yes, So my momhas been fascinated with horror movies, paranormal
She has this obsession with Ouiji boards, particularly, she lives the way they
look, and she always says,maybe I should get a real one,
and I go, no, youcan have a pillow, a blanket,
a doormat, anything with a wigiboard on it, but an actual one.

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Because all of our houses are thatwe've lived and have been haunted enough.
Do you think they've been haunted becauseof what like your mom is into
or just that has nothing to dowith it. Well, my mom used
to do seances. I found outwhen she was in her twenties with friends
for fun back in the eighties,and then back in the seventies, I
found out. My dad threw awaya wigi board, but it never came
back. Don't know if those aregood. Back I came back or it

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never left. It never came backto him, you know how, you
hear the weird stories. He threwit away, said it didn't work and
that was it. He also sayshe was cursed by a Back in the
eighties, they used to call herSpider lady. She was in Laguna Beach.
He used to deliver bread out there, and he said, one day
she put a hex on me,and we thought, you're joking. He
still says it today. No,she cursed me, and I go,

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well, maybe I'm the reason forall these things happening. I got so
this famous witch Laguna Beach. Yeah, he used to be. He was
a bread delivery driver, so backin like the early eighties, used to
deliver down there and near the artstuff, and he would he said,
there was this lady. They calledher spider lady. She had a cage

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on her. He said, therewere cages on her. She had a
dog and a cat in one,and she was real weird. He's like,
I don't know she's around anymore.She probably died. I sometimes think
it's a myth, but he stillsays, no, she was real.
I'm not lying, and anybody elseknows about that. I don't know if
she was a myth. But heused say he used to call her spider
lady. That is crazy, allright, So we'll get to that later

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on. Maybe I have to lookthat up now. A couple of notes.
When I was you know, whenShannon sent me this email, and
uh, since your parents' house.I guess, well, you're you've had
sleep paralysis from like five years oldtill till now. Uh, you grew
up in two haunted houses, andyour parents took you on ghost tours and
haunted hotel family vacations all throughout theyears. I want you to touch on

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all this stuff. You've moved downto your parents' house of course since then,
and that must have stirred some thingsup. Back in your parents' house,
you always wake at three am,and you work in a haunted spa,
and that spa was a former funeralhome. My god, all right,
where Shannon, where do we?I mean? I want to unwrap
all this stuff. Well, start, I don't. I don't work at
the spa anymore that you know,Well, I was. I worked there

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for about nine months, so thatwas a few couple of years ago.
But we'll start from when I wasfive years old, so I will.
I was in my I shared abedroom with my sister when we were growing
up. So I woke up onenight and I see in the corner of
our door, uh caped figure withyellow eyes staring at me. And I
can't scream. I can't move,and my sister and I have bunk beds.

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I'm on the bottom bunk, she'son the top, and I'm just
looking at this thing, and it'sall of a sudden getting closer. So
I put my covers over my headlook out, and there's all the same
figures surrounding my bed and I can'tscream, so I just decide I'll go
back to sleep. The next morning, I wake up my sister and I
go, Hey, did you seethat in the room last night? And

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she goes, no, what areyou talking about? That was me,
Like she wanted to play it off, like she was playing a trick on
me, and I go, thatwasn't you. And we never knew what
it was. I only saw itthat one time at my childhood home.
I didn't see that hooded figure againuntil I moved to my parents' current home

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that we were living in when Iwas about fourteen years old, and at
that time it was the same hoodedfigure but with red eyes. And I
woke up exactly at three am,almost like I couldn't breathe and having like
a demonic nightmare, which I getchronic demonic nightmares. Love, I'll tell

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you when I moved him with myboyfriend, I had to warn him about
that. But I woke up atthree am, like sweating, like drenched
shirt, looked up, saw thehooded figure, almost wanted to scream,
and I like, once I wasable to get access to move again,
I turned on my light almost likenothing happened, But it was exactly three
in the morning. The first dreamwas you saw the hooded figure, but

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it turned into a bunch of themkind of a thing. Well, there
was like once I put the coversover my face and then I looked up,
they were all of a sudden surroundingme. Gotcha. But yeah,
and that was like five years old. I knew it wasn't a dream.
It's stuck with me until now.So do you consider that sleep paralysis or
is that that just seeing as somesort of spirit or demon? You know?

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But I get sleep paralysis where Idon't see anything, but I get
the feeling of like wake up,wake gotcha? Or you know, but
I haven't seen the figures in quitea few years. Any theory what the
what the figure is? Or isit just I mean, I've been sold
it was shadow people maybe, butI go nobody else can relate to the
hood. It it's like almost likelike what you see what you know when

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you like people do rituals with thosehoods, right, and then all you
can see is the eyes. It'seither I saw yellow when I was a
kid, and then I saw redwhen I was a teenager, And do
you still have these? God,I hate to even call it sleep paralysis
now because that seems it seems likeyou may be I don't know. That
seems a little next level, youknow. I don't know. I kind
of I get. I get.I almost know how to control my sleep

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paralysis where I can come out ofit. There's been sometimes where I think
my boyfriend accidentally wakes me up andI'll almost like I get defensive because I'm
in a deep sleep, and Ilike almost hit him. He's like,
are you trying to punch me?I'm like, what are you doing?
I was like, I was awakethough, And you said you had to
warn your boyfriend. What was thatconversation? Like, well, when we

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first started dating, and I said, if I'm going to be staying over,
I gotta be honest, like weirdstuff happens to me. I don't
conjure anything up. I don't tryto seem like I'm different or anything.
I just had to tell them.Sometimes I can't wake up. I might
look awake, but I can't comeout of it immediately. Or if I

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don't know, I think I usedto sleep walk when I was a kid.
Hasn't happened in decades. But Ijust had to warn him about these
things. Or if I wake upand I stood up at three in the
morning like panicked, don't be alarmed. All right, I do have to
know about these Go into as muchdetail as you can. But you grew
up in two haunted houses. Yes, so the first one. Not looking

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for locations or anything like that.But when's the first like, what's the
first thing that gave it away?Like, all right, this place the
first time probably was when I sawthose figures. That was the first experience
I remember. Okay, But whenwe got when my sister and I moved
into the master bedroom, our parentswere like, you know, you guys
are getting older, move into themaster bedroom. It was two bedroom house.

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They were also the only owners ofthat house, so who knows what
the land was before when we werekids, but and it was the house
from the eighties, not old,not old at all. But when we
moved into there, there was thismaster bathroom that had like a wall that
you couldn't see the whole bathroom into, you know, past the bedroom,
and my sister and I used tosee shadows all the time because we were

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I was definitely afraid of sleeping alonein the dark when I was a kid,
because I just was terrified from thathooded figure experience. I said,
I never want I need to seewhen I sleep. Now if I wake
up, I need to be ableto see what's around me, so I
would see fit. We would hearthings walking around the bathroom in the middle
of the night. We would seeshadows going in and out of the light,

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and we would just kind of lookat each other and go, I'm
not going in there. I assumethe first time you heard it, you'd
probably like you, like you hearsomebody walking, you probably think, well,
I mean maybe the first time youthought is that mom? Is that?
But after that, when you realizeyou hear walking and you know that
nobody's in there, that's got tobe just fear level ten, right,
I mean, just there's something inyour house and you don't know what it

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is. Yeah, my mom anddad, you know, played it off
like, you guys are crazy becausewe watched ghost Hunters all the time.
You watch too many shows. Mymom and dad let us watch Stephen King
when I was like five. Youknow, any Stephen King movie, right,
you know, And I go,well, look at the vacations we
went on. So I'm trying totell them the house is haunted. And
they never believed us at the UtterOld House. Even till today, they

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still don't believe it. My sisterwas also a golf growing up in high
school, so she had this friendthat would come over and she did black
magic. No. I also thinkshe brought stuff to our lives because I
would wake up in our master bedroomthat we shared to Marilyn Manson on at
three in the morning and then theTV go static all of a sudden,
and I was like, you needto not sleep over anymore. And what

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else happened sticking with that first house, anything any other stories from that first
house. I'm trying to see ifwe go in chronological and kind of you
know, the first house, youknow what it was towards the end when
we were about to be moving,when I was about eleven years old.
It was mostly the shadows the bathroom. I started having bad nightmares more often
by the time we were about tomove out, so maybe whatever was there

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didn't like that we were moving.The only reason I got excited to move
is because my parents said, youguys, get your own room, but
gotcha. Yeah, yeah, sobut nothing besides like the bad nightmares,
the shadows that first experience when Iwas five, that was the main core
of everything there. That was likethe main core of everything that happened at
that location. You're moving, butI assume because the parents don't. You

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know, your parents don't believe thatthe house was haunted. You're not moving
because of that. You're just movingto get a bigger house and you get
your new room and everything. Soyou get into this new house, everybody's
all excited, as you should be, you know, and then what's the
first you know, well, thefirst night sleeping in my own room without
my sister for the first time waswas a little strange. I went,

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Okay, it's new sounds it's settling. You know, it's the typical mom
and dad saying it's just the housesettling. You know, I clearly knew,
probably the first week moving into there, this place is haunted. I
don't know how many owners have beenthere, but it used to be orange
gropes where my parents' houses and eventhe best surrounding houses are like over one

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hundred years old from the neighborhood.Wow, okay, Yeah, So the
first thing that happened was I startedwaking about three in the morning and I
started feeling like I wasn't alone inmy room. When I would wake up,
nothing would initially happen, but Iwould always feel like it is something
in here, and then I justgo back to sleep. But I would

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almost be like I had to goto the bathroom and be like I'm not
going, I'm not going in thehallway to like I felt this level of
fear of always being watched when Iwas a teenager. And then that was
And then the big first major thingto happen there that I knew something happened
was when I saw the red eyedfigure at fourteen years old. So you
had the hooded figure in the firsthouse. Second house, He's back with

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red eyes, much more aggressive,with like I couldn't breathe almost Oh did
you know that story? Yeah,So when I so before I woke up
and saw the red eyed figure.I couldn't breathe. I felt I was
sweating. Right when I woke up, I felt like I was catching my
breast and I instantly like, satup because I was freaking out of my

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dream. And then I looked overand I had a big closet mirror on
the side of me. And Ilooked over and I saw it and then
it was gone. And that wasthe only time that did happen. But
after that happened my mom, Mymom started to notice I was becoming fearful
of the house because I would wait. I would sleep with my light on

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all night, my fan, myceiling fan light, and she'd be like,
why are you Why is this on? So she would come in in
the middle of the night turn itoff when I was asleep, and in
the morning when she woke me up, she goes, I turned off your
light, And I said, really, I had it on when I went
to bed, and she goes,no, I came in and turned it
off. Did you wake up?And I said no. It started to
play tricks with me where I waslike, we're all experiencing different We also

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all experienced different things in the house. From what I did to where my
parents and my sister have different storiesthan I do, like completely different.
Can you share some of those stories? My sister used to say, because
my sister, after she graduated highschool, we're five years apart, she's
older. She would see lights,beams of light in the house all of

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a sudden, She'd be like,I just saw a bright flash of light.
That's all that she saw. Mysister wanted to see everything I experienced.
She was that type of girl whowas like, I want to see
a ghost, I want to seea demon and I'm like, no,
you don't, but I think Isaw more demonic things. My parents.
This is what we found out,probably less than ten years ago. Finally

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when they admitted, yeah, Ithink our house was haunted. Oh they
did finally admit it. Oh ittook years. It took year's jojo.
My mom goes, my mom anddad go, did you guys ever hear
the kids? And I go,we are your kids and they go,
no, the little kids. Ihave never experienced little kids in that house
today, but my parents get freakedout by it, and especially since there's

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no more little kids, no kidsin the house anymore. My parents have
said they hear like little whispers,you know when your kids come up to
you when you're probably in your bed, Like your daughter has come up to
you and whispers and you're like,what are you doing? My mom hears
that, or she feels her ankleslike something tugging at the blanket at the

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end of her bed frame. Anytheory on I mean, this house had
owners before they moved before you guysmoved in. Yeah, multiple owners.
It's from the nineties though, AndI can't explain why we all It's almost
like different energies want to show themselselvesto each of us. I just got
the scariest part of it. Yougot the row end of the stick on

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this one man. That's just yeah. I also heard a man's voice one
morning where I was laying in bedprocrastinating ready for high school, and all
of a sudden I heard get upoutside of my door, like it was
bred as day. I'm about togo to school, and my mom's downstairs
and they go is dad home?And she goes no, And I'm going,

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did you hear the man's voice?And she goes no. I think
she got a little freaked out atthat point, but she never she never
heard it. I never you know, that was the only time I did
hear that man's voice. Everything elsehas been I don't think human. Your
mom's hearing the kids, or yourparents are hearing the kids. Your sister's

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got the white lights. And yougot you know, demon man. You
know you got the Yeah, yougot the raw deal of the of the
family for sure. Yeah. Theonly other thing that we still haven't figured
out today, which happens every fewmonths, is the our backyard will suddenly
get perfectly neat piles of leaves likethey were raked into a pile, little

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piles of leaves, and my mom, even when our dog was alive,
she wouldn't go near them. Shewouldn't even touch them in the backyard.
She'd walk around them. And mymom would say, there's a huge pile
of leaves again. And we wouldalways say, Dad, did you rake
And he goes, I don't rake, and I go, well, the
rake's right there, and he's like, yeah, I use the leaf floor.
I have never heard that. Idon't know if that could be.

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I always joke with them that theyhave a haunted gardener, because I did.
I did see something one night onlike a stormy night. It was
one of those like cliches in ourkitchen window when I was home by myself
one night, and I said,there's a man back there. I think
it's the gardener. What is hedoing? And my dog even was going
crazy right when I saw it,so I knew I wasn't just hallucinating,

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but we saw. I saw aman, like a transparent man, staring
at me from the corner of ourkitchen window that faced the backyard on the
outside. He was outside, hewas on the outside, and I was
like, there's no way the gardener'sin the backyard. And I started looking,
and I go it was too darkat the time. There were not
enough lights at the time back thereto really see. But I always say,

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maybe that's the guy that breaks theleaves. That is crazy. You
know. I've talked to a lotof people with a lot of fascinating stories,
but I've never heard of, youknow, leaves being raked in someone's
backyard. And I can't think ofany other explanation for why there would be.
I mean, would an animal pile, I don't know. I can't
imagine that too perfect. I mean, sometimes they were in like little leave

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pile, like little piles and thensometimes they're in like a big pile,
so it's just too perfect for anyoneto gather them up. I'm thinking,
maybe is it Indian burial ground they'reon? Who knows? Okay, so
this is uh? These are thetwo houses you grew up in with your
parents as a kid, eventually moveout to the place you're at. You
know now, Yeah, did anythingfollow you to here or did it stay

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with the house or houses? Idon't think anything is here, especially because
I'm in an apartment complex. Wenever know what noises are going on.
I've never felt anything. It's fairlynew, but that doesn't always mean anything.
I've never felt anything here. Myboyfriend's never felt anything. But my
parents. About a month after Imoved out, they go, what did

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you leave here? And I go, what do you mean? What did
I leave? They go, who'sin your room at night? We hear
stomping around your old room in themiddle of the night and they can't explain
it, And I go, Idon't know. I told you guys for
years. Wow, I think maybeI did leave something there. I actually
slept in there last week when Iwas killing some time at my parents' house,

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and I didn't feel too weird.But they always say whenever since I've
left, they hear like walking aroundat night. Sometimes my dad says it
sounds like stomping. Do they stillhear the kids or you know, do
the kids still tug at Mom sometimes? Although she did have one of those
demonic dreams I kind of told herabout later on no kidding, she told

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she told me she had this fearwhen she woke up, and she goes,
I almost felt like I couldn't breathe, but she didn't see anything.
She goes, I just had areally scary dream, and they go,
I've been trying to tell you thisfor years, and you told me it's
not Greatal, what's uh? Thethe vacations you used, you guys used
to you get You guys sound kindof like us, like my family,

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you know, But they my Dianaand Sophie will usually reject some of my
vacation ideas because I want to goto Transylvania. I want to stay at
the Stanley Hotel in Estes Park.Well, I've been to the Stanley Hotel,
but they haven't been with me.Your family minus you can take my
mom. My mom and dad wouldlove the Stanley Hotel. It's fascinating.
But where where'd they take? Likeyou family vacations around haunted the haunted themed

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family vacated, where'd they where'd youguys go? San Diego? Oh,
the Coronado, uh No, theHert and Grand Hotel in gas Lamp.
I didn't know it was haunted.My mom, I don't think knew it
was haunted when we first stayed there. But she said, we're going to
do a ghost tour. Most peoplego to Hawaii, Mexico. No,
we go to haunted hotels apparently,And this is around I was in my

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adolescence. I would say so,and I'll get to that in a moment
about everything happening when I was ateenager, because my mom kind of did
research a few years ago about maybewhy things were happening to me during that
time. But she we go tothis hotel and I go, it looks
creepy. It's like Victorian theme,I mean, comfious bed deal ever sleep.
And I'll say that, but we'regoing on a tour, and my

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Mom's like, get everything we need. We're not going to be back at
the hotel. Guys, what isthe first stop on our tour our hotel
and I go, this is wherewe're staying. Oh, that's crazy,
and my appearents and then we cometo find out someone died or got shot
in a room down the hallway fromwhere we were staying, Like that's what
made this hotel known the murder roomthat was only down the hall from where

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were where we were in this hotel. And I told my parents, no
wonder I didn't sleep the whole tripbecause we kept hearing little kids running around
the hallway at like two or threein the morning, looking outside, going,
nobody's out there. We kept goingaround, we have We just kept
hearing weird stuff outside of our room, and I kept waking up going I

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keep feeling to see something. I'mgoing to see something. You just never
slept easy. But we went toa couple places on that tour that just
gave me the hebgb's. You knowyou guys go by that, did you
do you recall going by the WhaleyHouse? I have been to the Whaleyhouse
multiple times. What are your thoughtson the Whaleyhouse? There is a lot
of energy. And I have afriend who wants to go on a night

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tour there and I go. Idon't know if I can do it.
I can handle a lot, Idon't know if I want to conjure up
anything in my life. I love, I would love to do ghost stores,
but I'm afraid of something attaching itto me. So I mean the
fact, I just love the pointwhen you said your mom said, we're

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not you know, let's get yourstuff, We're taking a tour. We're
not going to be at the hotelfor for quite a while. You go
on this ghost tour and they pullup next to the hotel you just left
where you're staying at. That's thatis hilarious. Yeah. And every place
they tried to take a picture ofme at the camera died. The camera
kept dying. I mean this wastwo thousand and seven, two thousand and
eight, So it's just, youknow, a little digital camera. Every

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time they took photos of me,they would die. There's only one photo
of me that came out, andthere's an orb. Do you think that
next to me you seem to likedo you think you have a gift that
will you know where if you workedon it, you could become whatever psychic?
You know, something along those lines. I do think I have some

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intuitions. I just don't tap intoit because I think it could be good,
but I think it also comes withthe bat that's the problem, so
I keep I try to control thatpart, to be like, don't read
too much into it, like Iam. I do say to people who
want to know, I'm a littlesensitive to energies, but I don't like

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to claim that all the time becausethen people get a little weird. I
barely told friends like who have knownme for decades about all this part of
my life. You have talked toseveral people, you know quite a few
people who have that gift, andsome people don't think it's a gift.
Some people love it. But I'malways curious, you know, And I
guess everyone's a little different. Ifthere's an on off switch, because you
know, when you want it on, that's great, but when you want

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it off and it doesn't go off, that's not so great. I don't
think I have. I don't thinkI have an on off switch. I
don't think I thought it was gone. For a while. It seemed like
I was only just waking up atmy three am and it was like whatever.
And then when I got to theSPA is when I realized I'm very
much still in tune with whatever itis, because I just got to this

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point living at my parents' house.When I did, I don't care.
You can stay here. Don't botherme, don't bother my family. We
live in harmony together. I wouldsee my door handle jiggling and meld of
the night and I'd be like,what do you want? You know,
almost like it was a roommate inthe house. So it became just I
guess, just out of survival andjust you had like you couldn't just leave.

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You just got used to it.Yeah, I mean I used to.
I used to see things happen andgo or things would go missing in
the house and my mom would say, where is it? Where? Like
where are my keys? I'd belike, ask the ghosts and she's like
really, and I go, Idon't know. Because I got so it
almost like it just didn't phaze meanymore. It started. This thing caused

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so much. It caused a fewproblems with my family and I, especially
about ten years ago. We weregoing through some stuff personally physically, you
know, with health stuff with ourwhole family, and there were some financial
issues I think with the energy inthe house. It made it really bad,
and I said, anytime our energiesgot down, bad stuff came with

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it. Gotcha, it seemed likewe started to fight more we started.
I mean there was one day mydad lost his car keys and I mean
tore the house apart, yelled atall of us, where are my car
keys? The next morning they're inthe center of the kitchen on the floor,
just almost like we had to putour foot down at one point and

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be like, you can stay here, you can do whatever you want,
just don't bother us and we willlive in peace. The keys, I
mean, and none of you guys, clearly I'm assuming touch those keys.
No. I mean my dad wasa truck driver for work. He had
to go to work. We're like, I don't have your keys. I
mean it caused a lot of problems. And people think, oh, it's
cool you live in a house hauntedhouse, and I go not when it

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starts to mess with your families likesanity and you start accusing each other of
like stealing, hiding things. Thingsstill pop up in the house today that
we thought we're lost. My momgoes, how did I find this?
I thought this was gone. Shegoes, I know, I looked in
this store last week and that wasn'tin there. All this is just crazy
fascinating, and you make it sound, you know, somewhat like it waited.

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It just became normal. It justbecame normal. That's that's what I
mean. I go into the housenow and I almost feel it's home.
It's still is home whenever I gosee my parents, which is you know,
a couple times a week. Friendsand family, do they know of
what's going on? A few ofmy friends heard a voice. Uh when

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we were in middle school going upthe stairs. So a few friends go,
do you remember when we all wentto Shannon's house and something said hi
to us and I told them.I tried to play it off as no,
guys, that was my bird.We had birds at the time,
and I said, now it's thebird, and I go, no,
I heard something say what the hell? Just yeah. A few of my
friends do a lot of them neverwanted to sleep over, Like, what

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did noyone want to stay with me? Because your house is on it?
What's the last thing? I knowyou're you're not in the in the house,
but what's the last thing that hashappened? I assume if if it
has, it's probably your mom anddad, you know, But what's uh
kids wrestling around? And what's thelast thing that went down in the house
that you know of? My momsaid she heard. She just hears the

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footsteps now on the stairs in themiddle of the night, or in my
room. She'll hear footsteps going downthe stairs in the middle of the night.
Or she'll just hear them in mybedroom. All right, And you
had the job at one point.You don't work there anymore. You worked
in a haunted spot which was formerlya funeral home in the nineteen forties.
I think you, yeah, yes, before you take a job there,
and knowing that you've got the youknow, you're sensitive to some energies,

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and you take this job, areyou hesitant, thinking like, man,
I'm going to walk into like astorm here, if you know, just
because of the history. I didn'tknow it was a funeral home until someone
told me about a month in.You're like, thanks, Well, I
was in college at the time,so I needed to work the evenings a

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lot, so they said, okay, you can be the closer, and
I go great. I thought it'sjust a creaky old spot, but I
always got this uncomfortable, uneasy feelingwalking by one of the treatment rooms.
Every time I walked by and turnedoff the lights, I just felt a
heaviness like and I thought, no, it's just me. It's just the

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dark. I'm you know, that'smy fears, that not being able to
see. But I would almost rundown this hallway when I turned off the
lights just to get out of it. And then one night I kind of
confided in a coworker who I wasclose to at the time. I said,
Hey, is this place like kindof haunted? And she goes why
and I go, well, Iheard it was a funeral home. And

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she goes, we're not supposed totalk about that, and I go,
okay, but I said there's alsoa room that's really like uneasy. She
goes, are you one of thosesensitive people? And I go I'd like
to say, yes I am.And she said, well, tell me
what room you think it is andI said, I think it was like
room three. At the time,I can't really remember. All of a
sudden, my phone was sitting onthe table in her in her room,

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and Siri went off and goes,why do you think that My phone just
started talking? And I we bothwe both got the chills and looked at
each other and she goes, oh, you are sensitive. Because I also
found out the owner, the previousowner of the spa, she used to

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do rituals and spirit you know,talk to angels, and I go,
how many things are in here?So? Was that was the room you
were suspecting? Was that the roomthat you know a lot of stuff took
place in. I don't know ifthere was stuff that took place in,
but apparently other people who were sensitiveused to always feel an uneasy feeling.
And I used to say, Ifeel just uncomfortable every time I walk by

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that room. The whole it wasa funeral parlor, so the whole place.
Who knows, you know, whoknows every room. We also had
a like a locker room for thewomen to change it. So you know
those that every like bathroom has thoselike kickstands that go down on the door
right to hold it open. Iused to watch it go up there,
and it used to just go likeit was on the ground holding the door,

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and all sudden just go up andI'd go, oh, are you
going to lock me in here?And I'd be by myself at like ten
o'clock cleaning. I started talking tothese things because I used I used to
get yelled at the next day,like, hey, why did you leave
the music gone? I go,I didn't, and they go, I
think my boss is figured out,And I said, I turned off the
music because I used to come inand be like good morning to the little

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ghosts. I used to talk tothem and be like, good morning,
what are we going to do today? But at night things were definitely comfortable
with me because stuff with me andone other girl. She used to say,
I get scared here by myself.I said, don't be scared.
I've seen enough things in here bymyself at night. And she said.
At one point, we started noticingwe were hearing like our co workers call

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us. But we had cameras inthe front of the spot, and we'd
be in the back and we'd hearthat coworker's voice and we'd go, did
you just call me? And they'relike, no, I can't even hear
you. Like almost like these whateverspirits where there were mimicking our voices now,
I mean wow, we started tonotice our voices were getting mimicked.
There was one night I tried Iwas closing up and all of a sudden,

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I saw this big old picture framelift up and fall on the ground
and break, and I go,I'm leaving. I'm not picking that up.
So my bosses came to the nextday and they go, did you
drop a picture frame? I said, it wasn't me, this something else
and they never spoke about it.Oh my god, this is some crazy
stuff. I mean, you takeit so well, it doesn't scare me

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anymore because the worst happened when youknow, I was a kid and a
teenager, and back to the teenager, my mom started doing research later on.
She goes, I think everything happened, especially when hormones are going on,
your body is just going crazy.She goes, Honestly, I think
a demon tried to attach itself toyou, because apparently like incubusses and stuccubis

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can be attracted to adolescent teens,and my mom kind of feared that was
what was going on with me.Unfortunately, I tried to keep all this
really private from friends in high school, and the only friend it happened too
that I was super I'm still superclose with. She actually got has a

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scar from something that scratched her inthe middle of the night, and what's
that story? This is in yourhouse once again. No, this was
at her house, that's the problem. And I used to sleep there all
the time in high school. Shewoke up one morning, don't know what
time, I have a feeling it'sprobably around two or three in the morning
kind of thing, and she goes, I heard all my books, my

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books fall off my shelf and theyall just got thrown to the ground.
And then she woke up to likea scratch right above her eye and she
was bleeding, and she was like, did I scratch myself? And she
had normal nails. She still hasa scar to this day. Real fate.
And we don't talk about it toomuch because she gets doubt about it.
But she goes, do you thinkyou brought something into my life?

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Because I we were so close,and we, you know, slept at
each other's houses maybe four to fivetimes a week in high school, and
had we actually had to stage herroom so she would go back to sleep
in there, because I said,you've got to stay in this room.
You can't be living in fear,you know, I said, I Because
everything happened when I was so young, I think it prepared me. I

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don't get scared of a lot ofthings. I'm that person at Universal Horn
Nights who's laughing at everything, like, hey guys. But I think because
everything happened when I was so young, it just doesn't phaze me anymore.
There was one time I did havea really bad sleep paralysis episode at her
apartment in college, and she's Iwas asleep. She was said, are

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you okay sleeping at my apartment byyourself if I go to my boyfriend's And
I said sure. This was anorgan at University of Oregon. It was
an off campus apartment. She neversaid anything happen in this apartment because it
was pretty brand new. I wokeup at three in the morning having one
of my dreams, and all ofa sudden, her cat is in my
room in the room I'm sleeping,and the lights are on, the doors

(35:13):
open. I thought we got brokeninto and I'm freaking out and I'm going
I think it's I go, Ithis isn't a break in. This is
one of my dreams, and thisis an episode that's happening, she said.
After I left from that trip,she would come home to like everything
knocked all over the place in herhallway, and she goes, my cat
did not do that. She wouldfind things just like heavy things just tossed

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everywhere. After that, wow,So that was the only time we both
were. I said, do youever feel safe in that apartment? She
said, yeah, I just amnever really here since I'm always at my
boyfriends. But it was after Ileft that time where she goes, I
think you either brought something here orcontra something up. But she I recently

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stayed at her house that she livesin now in Oregon, and I go,
I don't think your house is haunted. I don't get the vibe,
thank god. And does saging?Does that usually do the trick? And
why does that work? If itdoes work, I don't know. I
only did it because I went onGoogle because I said, I think we
should sage, and she got,you know, there's a there's a shop.

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We went there. There's like acrystal shop where I grew up down
the street from my parents, andthey have stage and they do like tarot
card readings. I can tell youthat place later if you ever want to
check it out. But I justwent there and I said, look,
this is what happened. We needsomething. You're like stage I said,
great, anything else They said crystals. So I don't know. I've heard

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staging can help, but I've alsoheard it's a temporary fix. I definitely
can tell you I've had a lotof friends where some of my friends that
have been with me since you know, kindergarten, we have had some experiences,
but nothing, nothing compared to nothingto what I experienced by myself.
So safe to say as we wrapthis up, Shan and these stories are

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fascinating. The most frightening thing wasprobably at the very beginning when you saw
the hooded figures in the room.Right. Yes, I would say that's
probably the scariest thing to ever happento me, and I hope, I
hope it never happens again. Ikind of have a fear. I don't
have children of my own yet,but I kind of go, what if
this passes down? Because I wassensitive as a kid. I mean my

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mom, I used to tell herI saw Grandma all the time, and
Grandma passed away when I was three. She would be like, Grandma's not
here, and I'd be like,I used to I saw her in my
dreams. We talked and she'd belike it was almost like it was real
though, So there's a lot oftheories on dreams where it's more than just
a dream. I mean, Idon't know where. I don't know how
to prove or disprove. But I'veheard so many stories where it's just it's

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just not your I don't know,it's hard to say, but a lot
of theories where that's where a lotof visitation takes place. Why who knows?
But God, Shannon? Anything else? Am I forgetting anything? Or
is there something else that would bethat I should ask? U? See?
I would say probably those are themain core stories there's always been.
There's little things. The probably thething that I tell people the weirdest thing

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I can ever explain. I lovegoing into it antique shops, but I
can't go into antique shops for long. I almost get like a vertigo and
like a I feel like my headhas like static, Like I almost feel
like I'm it's a frequency thing,Like everything's just really high pitched or something

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to me, really like vertigo feelingsin antique stores. Is going into an
antique shop kind of like walking intoa haunted house? Kind of Yes,
I can say, I feel youjust feel the hairs start rising, you
feel you just feel like you're onguard because you know you don't know what
you're gonna like encounter. If youfeel like you're going to see something,
I don't. I try to almosttell myself mentally, I don't want to

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see anything, but I know I'mgoing to feel something there. Okay,
your friends will probably ask you this, and I doubt what you have is
something you can teach. But ifyou if I wanted to walk through an
antique store and look for those clues, you know, how can I?
You know? What do I lookfor? Is it just as simple as
the hair is on the back ofyour neck and your arms standing up?

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Because that happens for other reasons too, But now I know when it's something
else and not just you know.I don't. I almost don't know.
It's almost like I just want.Like when I was a kid, I
used to tell my parents I feelsick and tired every time we went into
an antique shop, and they thought, oh, you just don't want to
be here, like you just wantto leave, But it was no,
I literally feel sick. I don'tknow. It's almost like I just start

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staring at certain things and I almostfeel like I'm just hyper focused and I
almost just feel like if you couldfeel like a sensation of white noise,
I don't even like a static whitenoise. That's how I feel in my
head and I'm looking at something,and it's the weirdest thing I tell people.
I know I'm gonna sound crazy forit, but it's just something that

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happens. Two things I'll say.I've done several, you know, quite
a few paranormal investigations, you know, and there are some when when you're
done, your body is just drainedto the point of just collapse. Not
all of them, but I've hada couple of those where it's just absolute,
like like this must be what deathfeels like. Not like it's a
bad thing. But I'm just sotired. And that's back. You know.

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I used to do the night showon Kiss. I do the afternoons
now. I used to listen tothe night show and hear all the spooky
I used to be listening to thoseas a kid and go, oh my
god, I go to bed soon. But my body clock at that time,
I could stay up so late becauseyou know, I would be on
the air from let's say seven toten pm at ten o'clock. I am

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I could go for another three hoursbecause my brain is so fired up at
the end of an investigation, saynine forty five, I'm ready to collapse.
So I know it's something something happenedthere. And also just a random
funny note, there's a there's anantique store here in Santa Clarita. Okay,
I always I like, we've beenthrough there a couple of times.
But my wife, you know,she kind of put her foot down.
She was I'm not going in there. There's something creepy about that play.

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I don't think she has any anydon't she doesn't have this gift, but
uh, just something about it,you know. And Pete Wentz told me
once that he no. No.Mike Shanoda of Lincoln Park, Mike Shinoda,
his wife bought a dresser set andthey brought it home. It's on
one of the podcasts I forget whichone I didn't remember. I vaguely remember
that story. Yeah, yeah,it's it's they brought it home and then

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all of a sudden, this littleold lady starts appearing in their room.
And he didn't see it, butas his wife saw it. If I,
if I recall the story correctly,and uh, they ended up like
I think saging or assaulting or somecombination. Maybe I'm forgetting all the specifics
of it. But after that andhe he says, I don't know what.
I don't know what to think aboutit. All I know is when
we put this, when we didthis procedure, it stopped. But this

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little old lady showed up. Iguess that was her dresser. You have
to assume, right, That's whatI know. I always go I want
to buy something all the time,and I antique shop and I stole myself.
The only thing I have bought recentlywhich I don't think is haunted was
like a ring and it was youknow, I even had the initials of

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whoever made it. But I don'tever feel like that was something bad.
Wow. Okay, so you wentto an anti antique store bought a ring
with initials and man, you wereasking for it, Shannon, Oh my,
I did well. I was like, I like it, and I
was like, I told my friend, though, I go, do you
think I'm gonna feel weird if Itake this home and she goes, I

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guess you'll just have to get ridof it. If it starts happening,
but I go, I don't everfeel weird with it. I think maybe
I just get lucky and get agood spirit or something. So maybe I
I the only time I you know, I've been to a few psychics.
I did have one the first timeactually I went to one. It was
at the Renaissance Fair over in Irwindalewhen I was in fifteen or something,

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and she said get out, andI was shocked. I go, well,
why she goes something bad is aroundyou? Just leave And the psychic
kicked you out. She didn't wantto read whatever energy was around me.
She just said, you're a goodperson, you're good energy, but you
just have a lot of bad thingswith you at this moment, and I
just don't want to know or tapinto whatever it is. And that was

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about what era in your life.I was fifteen years old, so that
was in the first or second onit probably the second second, yeah,
which is probably about a year twoyears after the second one. Is that
right around the time where dad losthis keys? And oh yeah, that
was that was close to the timewhen all the peak of everything started happening.
You know, it just seemed likethe negativity of energy just conjures up

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and it starts something in the household. I almost felt like I even started
to wonder, are we like aportal in this house because we're all experiencing
different things? Or is that manythings just in this house that we can't
that want to show themselves. Doesalmost like the murder House of American horror
story. They all see different things. I'm not as dramatic as that.

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I started to think, are wegetting American horror story? You know,
this is like just a place wherepeople stay, you know, Shannon,
this is this is too good.If any other stories come up in the
future, Let's do another episode,I would love that and tell your mom
and dad hello. I would loveto say hi to you know, ouiji
board mom at some point see howshe's doing. You know, thank you

(44:22):
so much. I really really appreciateit. You got something special. That's
a that's a that's a crazy life. What great stories? Oh yeah,
hopefully I'll have some good stories.Hopefully they're not too creepy. Think I
want to stay in this apartment fora while, not ready to house hunt
in the future, and know that'sthe thing. When we go house hunting
in the future. I'm gonna haveto be like, I need to know
what this house is like at threeam. That okay, final question on

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everything. When you do go househunting, that you have a whole nother
layer to really deal with, youknow how, I mean, how do
you assure that before you put allthis money down and you commit to it,
that it that you're not walking intoAmityville horror. I almost feel like
I have to go get some RECson like the land, the history of
like the house, or maybe livein a brand new house. I don't

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know just to. And I loveold I love those old houses that have
charmed but I also go there's alot of things in them that I don't
think I can handle.