THE ALL GIRL GHOSTBUSTERS!

Meet the ladies of Integrity Paranormal Research!!!
An all-female paranormal investigation team in Los Angeles, CA 

Episode Transcript

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Welcome to another episode of Paranormalist.What up? Guys? Is Jojo right?
And I've been holding onto this episodefor quite some time. Talk to
these ladies a while back. It'sabout time I get this one up.
This is an all female paranormal investigationteam with some great stories. One of
these days I want to do aninvestigation with them. They are just the

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coolest. They are called IPR IntegrityParanormal Research, based in the Los Angeles
area, and I'm calling this episodethe all girl Ghostbusters. Oh yeah,
enjoy Jojo on the radio Paranormal Normal. Here we go. They are called

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IPR. They are an all femaleparanormal investigation team. There are four ladies
on the team, only three withus, but four total, right,
yes? Yes? What does IPRstand for? Integrity Paranormal Research? And
the three the four members are Crystal, Elaine, Laura and Sana. And
we were talking off air about howyou guys, you know, got started

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and all this. You know,Sana, you were the last one to
join, Is that right? Correct? And Crystal you launched IPR? What
what year in twenty eighteen? Inthe backstory, did you guys launch IPR?
Because one if you had experiences orsomething like that, or what was
the reason. Crystal and I havebeen best friends since we were twelve years
old. Oh, we went tojunior high together, and we've always been

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into the paranormal. We're always lookingfor ghosts, looking for weird stuff all
the time. And then we grewup and continued having these experiences and wanting
to learn more, and all ofa sudden, she's like, I'm gonna
put a group together. I waslike, okay, let's do it.
And then she's like, I'm gonnapost something online and look for other members,
other people that might want to joinus. Because our friends weren't really

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doing much. It was just alwaysme and her like talking about stuff.
But then she put out an ADand that's how we found Laura. I
answered the ad, what's going on? I was cruising. I was cruising
through Craig's list and I saw thead and I was like, well,
that's interesting because I just started reallygetting into it. And you know,

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frankly, when you see ads andstuff, you're like some shady stuff on.
Yeah, my kidney's going to gomissing or something, and so you
know, I for whatever reason,everything happens for a reason. I threw
caution to the wind, and Iwas like, I'm going to contact her,
and we contacted and we literally gottogether. About a week later,

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there was another female in the group. She has since gone on to do
her own thing and she's not intothis group anymore. But so I contacted
Crystal. We got together, andwe've been really like stuck together since then.
I mean we haven't COVID came twoyears of doing nothing, but we
were still very cohesive and we've gottentogether right after COVID kind of let up

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and we canntinue to do investigations now. And then sana Yah is the final
member. Final member. You kindof work your way into this whole thing,
right, I kind of did.I had to prove myself, which
go to the meeting? Are youknow No, it's a funny story.
I was actually hosting a podcast backin twenty eighteen, and I was looking

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for an investigative group for my HalloweenSpooky episode that I wanted to do because
it was in October actually October twentyeighteen. So I just I was searching
online and I came across their inactiveFacebook page and I sent out a message.
I was like, hey, youknow, would you guys be interested
in coming on my podcast? Iwould love to interview you guys. I

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see you guys are all females.This is so cool. And then Laura
replied, and I say, I'mscared. I'm gonna actually I'm not even
on Facebook, Dart. I wasgonna go check. But yeah, so
Laura responded, and then I hadthem on my show and we just it
off and I was really intrigued.I was like, I have to be
a part of this. After theinterview was over and they're like, yeah,

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come on investigations with us, allright, So we got this,
We got this team IPR and myback backstory, I have not had a
paranormal encounter where I can definitely sayI saw something, but I believe so
much and I've been obsessed with itsince I was a kid. I mean,
I just can't get enough of thisstuff. And finally, you know,
and once I got into radio,which I've been in radio forever,
now, you know, I finallyfound a way to start incorporating it into

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my radio show, and not justHalloween year round. Of course, around
Halloween I go buzzzonkers, you know, but started this podcast. It just
gives me, you know, justit's just it's a passion project, obviously,
and I try to get my Itry to get into as many you
know, haunted locations and investigations.And at the root of it, I'm
a story collector. I love collectingstories and see what you know. And
maybe some people lie to me.I don't know. But I've talked to

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so many people that are so credibleto me, credible sounding to me,
that I am convinced there is somethingon the other side. Of course,
I have my religious my spiritual beliefs, but I'm just as far as talking
to people, there is something thereand I just can't get it. I
can't get enough of this. SoI assume you guys, I think I
read one of you guys. Laura, you're kind of working on your intuition.

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That's give me where you stand at. Yeah, it's kind of interesting.
I've always been interested in the paranormal. I actually started out being as
a kid being way more interested inaliens right than anything else. I lived
in Alaska and I thought northern lightswere aliens, and I thought they were
coming to get me. That's anotherfascinating it. And it was like the
northern lights scared me to death.I would hide away from the northern lights.

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So I've always had alien dreams.But anyway, this transposed into checking
out what is on the other side, what are aliens? Where do they
come from? It took me intoghost hunting, and I've always been interested
in psychic and medium experiences. There'sjust a connection there that is inexplicable.

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You don't know how to explain whenyou have a psychic experience. I've had
a couple about five. But whenyou say psychic experience, well, like
something that you sent something back mesitting with somebody, and again, this
doesn't like happen every day. Idon't just like, oh I'm going to
read you or something like that.That doesn't happen to me. What happens
is I have a one on onewith somebody and we just start talking and

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that just feelings just start overcoming meand I have to act on it,
like I have to say something.My hands start to itch. It's really
strange and people won't believe you.You know that you had these experiences.
But this is where I really wantto start to dig in because there are
things we don't know and gaining evidencegathering evidence and having experiences is really where

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I'm at in this process. Iwant to find evidence, and I feel
like evidence is really about what you'reexperiencing. That's my evidence. I don't
need. I don't need somebody totell me or show me that there's a
ghost or a spirit. I alreadyknow that the evidence is a very person

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whole thing. For me. Idon't need to prove to anybody that something
exists. It's more about just findingout what is going on. For me.
It's kind of it's a deep subject. Not everybody can kind of not
everybody wants to do this. Ithink you and I are similar in that
sense where I want to I'm usingthis to try to you know, I
guess I want that ability to it. I think I want that ability.

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I say I think because I've talkedto several psydechics and whatnot and people who've
had these encounters, and I'm notsure where the on off switch is right,
because if you turn it on andyou can't turn it off, then
you're living the sixth sense. Isee dead people on right, you know
that's okay? I can't you wakeup in the middle of night, and
I think that that's why people don'tdo this kind of work because once you
start, Once you start, youopen the door. Yeah, and you

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would think that, you know,if you're if you've crossed over and you
find you know, I'm guessing mostpeople can't or don't have that ability obviously.
And if you see one person that, oh my god, they can
see me, they can hear me, it would be like the it'd be
like a row of like a likea mall full of closed store and one's
open where they're all going to go, and there you are. I'm afraid

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you turn it on. But atthe same time, here I am tracking
down this well exactly. It's likeand it is. It's addictive. It's
addictive because you're never really given thatphysical evidence because the evidence isn't physical.
It's hmm yeah, it's not somethingyou can hold in your hand. It's
not tangible. And that's what Ithink people need and want is something that

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they can put in their hand andtouch and feel and look at and observe
and put under a microscope. That'snot what this evidence is. Has nothing
to do with that. So youhave to you have to really be very
open minded. You have to havean open soul as well, you know,
and protect yourself and all of thosethings that we do in order to
do this kind of work. Butfor me, it's a very deep thing

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and I think about it all thetime. You're walking through some of these
places like I went to, likewe were talking, I went to Zach
Beagan's Haunted Museum, had an overnightrun, you know, and I carried
a Bible with me. I washoping it was protecting me spiritually and I
was gonna whack somebody with it.You got a pound bible. This place
is crazy, Elene. Now you'vehad some give me your story. Now,
well you are a nurse, notgonna say where obviously, but a

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nurse or doctor? What are you? I'm a nurse. I currently work
in an emergency room, and priorto that, I worked in a psychiatric
hospital. It was a lockdown facility. It had adult, adolescent and pediatric
units, so we had patients ofall ages and sizes and happenings in that
psychiatric hospital. That's got to bea load. Walk into place like that

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and work, and how do younot take that home? And it's just
that's a lot. You just putit in a box. You put everything
in there while you're at work,and then you leave the box at work
and you go on home without thebox wine. You get home and you
go to So what got you?What got you rolling into this? I
mean because I would think that workingat in an er and the psych wards
and whatnot. I mean, that'slike as a kid, you were into

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it, speaking of you know,being into the paranormal. That's why you
went there because just the energy justkind of drew you in in a way.
Maybe not the er, but thepsych word the psych hospital was really
interesting and I just kind of likefell into working there, right, I
was interested in psychology, so Imajored in psychology in college. By the
way, I said psych ward,that's more of a horror movie term.
It's a psych ward. Okay,sorry about that, Yeah, it's okay,

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But yeah, I majored in psychologyand then I decided to go back
to school for nursing. So myfirst job out a nursing school was at
a psych hospital. I worked inthe adult units, which was creepy,
but I did a lot of mytime at the adolescent unit, and a
lot of the kids there multiple reasonswhy they're there, and the people that
are there are on psychiatric holds forwhatever reason, like they're trying to hurt

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themselves, other people, or whateverother reason that landed them there. And
some of those reasons is some ofthese kids they hear or see things that's
causing them to act out in acertain way, or causing them to be
really upset, really anxious, ora range of emotions. So I remember
there was this one and she wouldget anxious around the same time, around
two pm every day, and I'mjust like, why at that time every

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day? That's so weird. Andone day I told her, what is
it that's making you so anxious?And she would cry and like she would
like look at the wall and justface the wall for a good half an
hour. And it was the strangestthing. And one day I just asked
her, like, what is makingyou do that? What is happening in
your head? Are you seeing things? Are you hearing things? What is
it that's making you feel that way? Draw it out for me, Explain

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it to me. And she drewme a picture and it was this black
object. It's this black being allblack, has horns and a tail,
and it's holding a kitchen knife andit's dripping with blood, and I'm like,
this is what you're seeing that's makingyou so anxious. She's like,
yeah, this thing talks to meand tells me to do things, and

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so she'll hurt herself or whatever.And I thought, okay, well,
now I know I just gotta there'snothing I can do to stop that.
So I just gotta as a nursemonitor her and make sure she doesn't hurt
herself while she's in that little transthat she goes into every day. Now
we can argue is she's doing thatfor whatever her reasons are? Is it
real? But she did draw methat photo, that picture right, And

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so, like I said, thesepeople are on holds, and holds usually
last for seventy two hours three days. If they need more help than the
hold gets extended up to fourteen days. So these people are here for up
to fourteen days a lot of times. So this girl got discharged, she
left. I get a new batchof kids, another kid, similar problem.
She's nervous and she's anxious, andshe's seeing and hearing things. And

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I deployed my last strategy, andI'm like, what is it that's making
you so so scared? Tell meexplain it, describe it to me or
draw me a picture and my kidsyou not, it's the exact same picture
that the other kid drew me.And the other kid, the first kid
I was telling you, she wasa teenager, maybe sixteen, seventeen years
old, and the second kid thatcame she was maybe eight, And they

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don't know each other. They wereadmitted at the hospital at different time age
difference. So I just thought thatwas really weird. And then I started
thinking, I'm like, is itreally them, like in their minds or
seeing these things, or is itthis place that's doing that to them?
They were brought there for a reason, obviously, mm hmm. I wonder
if they were seeing these things clearlythe obvious question were they seen it before

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they got there? Did you?I guess there is there a way to
find well, I think, youknow, they did have some of these
problems prior to being admitted into thehospital. But I just thought it was
really curious that these two separate peopledrew me the same picture under the same
type of like mental in the sameenvironment. Yeah, it was the weirdest
saying, there's other things that's happenedthere. The kids with quick the younger

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kid, was he seeing this attwo o'clock the same day as well?
Or just no? Like the secondkid, he was just she was just
real anxious, like crying at oddhours, like just not anyone good time.
So I would just tell her,like, what's wrong? Tell me?
Describe to me. Are you seeingthings? Are you hearing things?
If so, what are you seeing? What are you hearing? What are
they saying to you? Tell me? So if you tell me what they're

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saying to you, then I canbetter help you respond to those voices or
not respond whatever you know. Soother times the kids would be off the
unit. There's nobody on the entireunit, and so there's like rooms in
the psychiatric unit where boys and girlsare separated, and there's a row of
rooms that face each other, andthen it becomes the hallway ends into like

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an activity room. So when thekids go off to lunch, there's nobody
in any of the rooms doing activities. No one's in their bedrooms. It's
empty. So I'm walking down thehall just making sure no one got left
behind. No one's like messing around, And I hear my name in my
ear, like in my left ear, walking past the activity room, just

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real quick like, and I ignoredit. I don't think you're supposed to
answer them. I don't know.I don't know what would have happened if
I answered them, But I justI heard it. I made a mental
note. Someone just said my name. I walked out of there. Wow.
I kept that with me, eventell anyone. I was so freaked
out, And I did another walkthrough make sure there was no one there

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messing with me. And there wasno one there, But it's whispered my
name in my ear. Any ofthe other doctors nurses have anything similar or
did you even share that with them? Yeah, there'd been phone calls that
would come in in the adult unit. I've been told, like an assistant
nurse would pick up the phone andit would just be nobody talking, or
they'd hear whispers on the other lineand they would hang up. Just weird

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stuff like that. The energy inthat building's gotta be corle It's dense.
The energy in that building is likea blanket of energy. And you know
it's a psychiatric hospital. So everyone'seither depressed or anxious or wanting to hurt
themselves, or they're violent against otherpeople, or they're just out of their
minds and they can't take care ofthemselves, so they end up on this
hold and they end up in thehospital. So the energy there is just

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real low, bad, low energy. And what about the you said you
worked in the er, and that'sgoing to be a heavy I mean,
once again we're talking about we'll getto the paranormal stories and the investigat and
whatnot, but it's kind of thesame. It's the way everything happened.
Somebody passes, where do they goand we're off and running, you know
in the er, you said,when you've been in some situations obviously because

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bad things happened in the er unfortunately, But when it does happen, you
can feel a heaviness or maybe somepeople see things, you know something's there.
So I have never I've seen somethingmaybe twice in my entire life.
I've heard a million things. AndI felt, like Laura was saying,
you just know it, you justfeel it, So you just know it,
and I just have that feeling likewhen someone passes away. I remember

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the very last one. It wasa COVID patient and this happened really really
quickly. He was up, walkingaround, went back to bed, and
that was it stopped talking, justcollapsed and passed away. After we worked
on him for maybe an hour,and I have to go back in there
afterwards to clean up, to retrievethings out of the room, and he
was still in there, and Ican feel this confused energy like this.

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I can't even explain it. Itjust felt confused in there, like this
feeling of I don't really know whatjust happened. I'm a little confused.
And I remembered having to I feltlike I had to say this out loud,
like, Hey, this just happened. You're dead. You gotta go,
don't follow me. You know,everything's okay now, And just that
feeling in that room is just reallydense. And then you walk out of

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there and you're fine again. AndI've taken bodies down to the morgue,
and you would assume the morgue islike a creepy place in the hospitals,
but they're not. Oh it's creepyto me. Why is it creepy to
you? I don't know. Imean, I'm sure clearly you're right,
and you have you have the experience, and maybe you maybe you're at home
with it a bit more, butmaybe I don't know, maybe just the
sadness just knowing the family's attached tothe bodies in there, you know,

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So maybe that's that's that's it.I guess for me, that's a little
it's different than it being like acreepy place. You know, you're the
you're the one, I'm gonna whateveryou say goes here, because it's yeah,
I don't know. I mean,I've heard the creepy stories. I've
heard, you know, talk topeople who've worked at funeral parlors and whatnot,
and of course bodies will twitch fromtime to time, and of course
you're met, You're imagination goes crazyand you're losing your mind at that point.

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I don't know, it's just thatwhole that's just that's a lot to
take in. And it's not likeyou're saying your your husband works at a
hospital or and it's got to behard to shut that off when you after
all that stuff you experienced to gohome and just watch you know, you
know, friends, how do youbencome normal for that? You know?
Oh my god, so you needto watch friends. You do need to

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need to watch friends or whatever,you know, to relieve, give yourself
relief from from the heaviness, becauseit is heavy and I think that you
know, sorry, I mean justkeep going. When when I think that
people have a perception of ghost huntingof like I'm gonna find a ghost and
yeah, you know, and it'sall of this kind of like high frivolous

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energy and when you actually do it, it is not that. Not for
me anyway, I speak for myself. But it's again, and you know,
you go back to it's actually adeep thing. I'm trying to discover
something, I'm trying, I'm doingresearch, I'm working, and it is
it is a it's an experience,and it's experiences that you have and they
you know, they can weigh youdown and all of those things. And

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so yeah, when you go home, you need to have the glass of
wine, you need to watch somemindless TV. You need to just let
go meditate. Yeah, silence.Silence is good too. Can you imagine,
like we talked about going to thesethese haunted locations, which I'll kind
of want to switch to kind ofpush into your investigations. But by the
way, is that the psych hospital, the one you worked, is still
still active. Still yep, imaginestill active? Yeah, fifty years from

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now. That place is closed down. I think it's been there for around
one hundred years. Oh really,it's a old It used to be called
something something sanitarium and then they changedthe name over and I think at that
facility they used to do all theold school psych treatments there, like electroshock
therapy and all that stuff. Thatsounds just all kinds of bad, terrimial.

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God, but imagine, imagine thatwe find these sanitariums and old you
know, hospitals and whatnot that havebeen closed down, and we do these
investigations. But back when these placeswere open, that kind of energy was
in there, and that's why they'rehaunted. I mean, do the I
don't know what your theories are,but do the walls just soak up this
energy? I think so. Imean the residual haunts, well, you
know where things just kind of repeatthemselves, or is there active haunts or

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you know, it's hard to say. They're all theories. I get it,
but man, there's there's a lotgoing on on the other side,
and it's so crazy. It's justthat's why that's why we're all sitting here.
I guess before we jump into yourinvestigations, which I can't wait to
get into all of it. Anythingelse you want to add to that,
you know, before we transition,so to speak, I do want to
talk about the stigma that kind ofcomes with what we do. And you

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know, like Laura mentioned, it'snot all high energy. You know,
we're not going in they're all likerowdy. Yeah, we're going to go
bust gohos. You know, we'regoing to go like like the Ghostbusters.
Ghost hunting, I want to add, can be really boring, right,
Like we were sitting there for hourssometimes and we're not picking up anything on

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the EMF meters, we're not pickingup anything on our audio. It can
get really really boring. I don'tknow about the girls, but I've fallen
asleep during investigations. I've literally towawesome times and then right and I'm like,
it's three am, guys, igotta go home. You know,
I have to work tomorrow. Butlike so, it can be really really
boring and it's not for everybody.And then tie in the stigma with that.

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You know, I used to beashamed to tell my normal friends,
normal normal, we all have ournormal normal, those normal friends. It
was honestly you guys like they wouldliterally like laugh at you, and they
refuse to follow our ir Instagram.They're like, we don't want to follow.

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You're crazy. I'm sorry, youknow. And I'm like, I'm
like, oh my gosh, you'renot a real friend. They're like,
know that's I don't want to join. You're crazy. I'm like, okay,
whatever, So I know where youstand in my life, so I
see you on my side of things. People just know I do a lot
of artist interviews with you work onKiss Family, and they all know that.
If they haven't heard me say thison the radio or on social or

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in some artists walk in, I'msure the label their managers tell, hey,
Joe's going to ask about the paranormal, just look out. And I
do all of them, all ofthem, everybody, And it's I've heard
some just wildest story. Not everybody'slying to me. Some sure, maybe
they you know, and when youtell a story, you tell juice it
up a little bit here and there. It's just human nature. But they're
not not. Everyone is telling mea bunch of craziness. I'm guessing most

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of them are based in if notcompletely real, not all but most you
know, and man, there's somethingthere. Who calls you up? Like
how do we get do you searchout the investigations or do you yeah,
door, somebody ring up the whoare the hot line? Oh no,
that would be cool though, weshould consider something like you definitely need a

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hotline. We do like these weeklyor bi weekly live stories like live interviews.
We will have a guest every nowand then, or it'll just be
the four of us and we'll literallyinteract with our audience and ask people to
send in their stories. People willdm us, they'll email us at our
long email address and literally Integrity ParanormalResearch at gmail dot com, so people

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will write in and type it out. We make you work for it,
right, I really need to talkexactly. Or we'll have like Crystal reach
out to her friends, Elaine,you know, will just be people that
we know, like a referral system. A lot of our friends are like,
you need to come to my house. Yeah you know, yeah a
lot of our friends or you needto come to my house. Something's going

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on, and we're like, yeah, we're there, let's go. And
for your normal friends, I'll speakfor you know, the normies, for
the normies, you would be surprisedhow many emails and voicemails, because I
have a number two it's really eightthree three six eight two UFU one boo,
all right number Yeah, it's notfifty one. Are you sure?
I know, right, But you'dbe surprised how many people reach out And

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yeah, once again I go backto the not all are credible, but
you'd be surprised how many people reachout with really interesting stories, encounters and
then and from all over the country, all of it. It's just,
it's just it's not just a bunchof you know, goofballs watching ghost Adventures,
which I love that show, Bigsell the Zach I love. But
it's okay, investigations, give me, let's where should we start with.
Give me an investigation that really kindof threw you, guys for a loop,

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or one that really stands in itsticks in your head. I honestly,
the one of the few investigations thatreally really stick off for me is
Crystal's mom's house. That house isextremely active, and Elaine knows firsthand because
she grew up in that house prettymuch because your Crystal's best friend. Yeah,
we had that crazy night, youguys, remember where we were in
her mother's bedroom, and that onemedium that had been there already confirmed there

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was that portal inside her mom's bedroom, and I did not know that.
I was sitting right below it ina chair and it's blacked out dark and
we're literally invoking spirits and asking questionsand I'm just sitting there like okay,
right next to the portal. They'retrying to pull you in. It's like,
my seriously, I had no idea, and like it's like my second

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investigations. I'm fairly new to thegroup, and I'm like, okay,
yeah, let's see, like whatever. It's just creepy because it's dark.
You know, mine is playing Dregsand I'm sitting there and I feel something
just brush across my legs quickly,Like it almost felt like an animal,
you know, like when a dogkind of brushes up against your leg right
and You're like, there was nodog. There was no animal, was

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a dog outside. So I just, you know, being the jumpy person
that I am, I just kindof jumped out of my chair and I'm
like, you guys, something justtouched me. And I run over to
Elaine. She was sitting on thebed like in the corner. She's like,
you're sitting under the portal, andI'm like the portal. Oh my
god, I'm sitting under the portal. I'm sitting under the pool this entire
time. And I know I'm makingit sound funny right now, but you

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guys, it wasn't funny. LikeI was really freaked out. I could
not sit still the entire night.I was jumping around. I couldn't find
like a warm spot to sit at, you know, like cozy, like
comfortable spot. Every spot felt likethere was something there, and I just
stood. I was just standing.You make it sound all funny and stuff,
but you imagine like if you werein like speaking to people listening,
if you're in a room and somethingbrushes up against you and there's nothing there,

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it's nothing there. Oh it's justthis. It's just that, whatever
it is, it's something touched youthat's not there and you felt it.
That's why. Oh my god.So okay, And what are the theories
on the house, Like what itwas something going on in this house before
Crystal's mom moved in, or didsomething happen or And once again, there
doesn't need to be a history toa house to have paranormal activity in it,
but it's usually cool to track downthe back story and kind of see

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what's up with it, you know, But do you know any of the
backstory? Oh god, Crystal ishere. I wish Crystal. Yea,
what is some more stuff? Andwe'll bring Christal, Yeah, yeah,
we'll bring it back. Yeah.For sure. That house has been there
a while, and I think there'slike one or two people that have passed
away in that house. But thatenergy is not from those people that passed
away in that house. I thinkthere was a suicide that happened in the
driveway. Oh my god, itwas a family friend. It happened in

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the backyard and in the car,I think, And then I think somebody
passed away in the house. Butthat house has been there a while,
and we've been told that there's aportal side her mother's bedroom, which I
think also used to be Crystal's bedroomat one point, and people, just
like a train station, just goin and out, and these spirits just

(27:11):
come in and out, and theysee things walking in and out of the
walls in that room all the time. And adjacent to that room is another
room that's like a laundry room.And weird things happen in there too.
They see shadows, they feel thingsall the time. And Crystal and I
have actually seen something in the drivewayat like two thirty in the morning.
I was spending the night and itwas two thirty in the morning and we're

(27:32):
watching TV and the TV is likein front of us, but the kitchen
window is like a little bit behindto the side, but you can see
if with your peripheral vision the kitchenwindow, and we just saw a gray
shadow like look like a man withthe baseball cap like walk by the window
and we looked at each other,We're like, did you see that?
Did you see that? Yeah,we both saw it, So we ran
to the door, opened it tomake sure it wasn't an actual person there.

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There was nobody there. It's twothirty in the morning, there were
no cars, and her house asituation away from the streets where even if
there were cars turning and there's streetlights, it wouldn't reflect that far into
the house. So we're thinking,maybe that's the ghost in the driveway.
There's a ghost in the driveway andwe just happened to see him that night,
And other people have seen that ghostin the driveway too, So that's
just a couple stories from that house. There's hundreds of them throughout the entire

(28:21):
house. I think her great grandmothersashes used to be in the house until
a few years ago. They finallywent and spread them somewhere. So yeah,
like all kinds of stuff, allkinds of stuff going on in that
house. And the portal. Withthe portal being in the bedroom, you
think she would you know, Ithink I want to move in with this
bedroom mode. Yeah, hey,and Sonny, I have on your notes

(28:47):
here the house in Sierra Madre.Yes, what is that? So one
of my good friends, Sherwyn,he moved into this home about six years
ago in Cierra Madre. You guysknow cir Madre, right, it's really
pretty. It's really old by thefit Hills. They shoot a lot of
movies there too, horror movies,you know. But anyway, so he

(29:07):
moves into the three bedroom home andwe were all throwing him this housewarming party.
It was about six of us thatnight, you know, dinner,
the usual, drinks, music,just partying it up, whatever, and
so a few of us decided tostay back because we were too tired to
drive. It was really late,so me and one of my girlfriends took

(29:29):
the second bedroom. We took thebed, and there was a couple of
people in the living room, andso we're really tired. We go to
sleep, and then I wake up. I don't know what time it is,
because I don't know. I waskind of like out of it.
I wake up to use the restroomand it's really really dark. It's like
pitch dark. And his home issurrounded by like trees, so there's like
no street lights coming in or anythinglike that, so there's no lights coming

(29:52):
in from the window. So it'sreally really dark. And so I'm like,
okay, let me you know,I didn't even check my phone or
anything. I make my way outof the bedroom and there's like this long,
dark hallway that I have to walkthrough. Of course, the perfect
setup for a horror movie. Sodark, right, So he has these
beautiful like wooden oak floors, andso as you guys know, when you

(30:15):
walk in the wintertime on wooden floors, they're naturally gonna create right, right.
So I'm walking and I hear myfootsteps. I stop. I'm looking
for the light because the hallway isreally long and it's dark and the bathroom's
on the left, I remember fromearlier, so I'm like kind of feeling
for the door. It's really dark. I quickly I find the light switch
on the wall. I cut onthe lights. I go into the restroom

(30:37):
take care of my business. Icome back out and the lights are off,
and I'm like, okay, that'sfunny, that's weird, Like did
somebody get up behind me? Didmy friend wake up? And I don't
know, I should turn off thelights, Like this isn't funny, you
know. So I turn the lightsback on again, and I look at
the door and the doors, youknow, halfway open the way I left
it, and it's I can seehow dark it is inside our bedroom.

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So I'm walking towards the bedroom.There's another light switch. I don't know
why I didn't. I didn't.I guess I didn't realize that light switch
was there all long. But Iturned the lights off and then go back
into the bedroom and I go tosleep. I checked the time before I
went to sleep, and it waslike around three fifteen, so I'm like,
okay, it's three fifteen whatever.I ended up going back to sleep.

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I wake up in the morning.We're all in the kitchen we're having
breakfast, and I'm like, you, guys, did any of you wake
up behind me? Around three fifteen? Did somebody cut off the lights?
Because the lights they just they turnedoff, you know, after I turned
them on, and it was inthe restroom, and everyone was like,
no, we were passed out.Nobody woke up. Everyone denied it.
Right. So cut forward three monthsdown the road, we're at his house

(31:41):
again and we're just chilling in hisliving room and he's like, you,
guys, you won't believe what happenedlast night. I heard weird like knocking
tapping noises coming from my closet.It was as though someone was tapping from
the inside of my closet all nightlong. I'm like, what goodness.
Yeah, And so, being theparanormal you know, fanatic that I am,

(32:05):
I was like, Okay, Igotta go look, got to go
check out your bedroom closet. SoI get up, I go into his
bedroom, I open up the closet, and I kid you not, it
was like ten to fifteen degrees colderin the closet compared to the rest of
the room. It was so cold. So at this point I'm looking at
him I'm like, Okay, arethere like any events in this closet.
So I'm looking around. There's noac event. There's obviously no window because

(32:27):
it's a closet. It wasn't evena walk in closet. It was like
a normal sized closet. Like,where's this cold like breeze coming from?
He's like, yeah, it wasjust knocking. It was like something was
in there knocking, you know.And I'm like, that's crazy, Like
what you don't have pets, youknow, you're living by yourself. What
could it be? So we shutthe closet door, and I was like
convinced. I was like, there'ssomething. There's definitely something here, and

(32:47):
it feels like a dark energy.Doesn't feel human, it felt like a
dark energy. So I assume futureinvestigations at this house. At some point.
He doesn't live there anymore. Ohyeah, he got married. Him
and his wife. They moved out, but she said she would feel things
in that in that house too,like when she was there when they were
engaged. She would come over andit would spook her out a bit.

(33:08):
Goodness all right, yeah, SoJojo, have you ever heard of unearthing
the supernatural? Do you know thoseguys I have not know say the name
again, unearthing the supernatural, unearthingthe supernatural. Yeah, their navajo,
their navajo and their normal investigator Arizona. No, what's what's the Yeah,
what do I need to know?Well, kind of their motto. Their

(33:30):
thing is to they implore people tolook beyond like the house, the history
the structure of the building itself,and go deeper and go into the history
of the land. And that's whatthey do. That's their specialty. And
so it's just interesting when you gointo a house and you say things like
it's not human or I feel likeit's you know, dark not Yeah,

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it's not human, or it's somethingyou know, maybe it comes from the
land, maybe it comes from Soit's just it's it's something that when we
went to Perakon, we went tothe oc Pericon they were there and got
to talk with them, and itwas just really interesting the way that people
have different ways of investigating and theoriesand how to apply and how they apply
their teachings and their no ways totheir paranormal investigations. It's really interesting.

(34:15):
So, you know, that's probablya good point because no matter how long
the structure has been there, theland's been there longer. There's always some
other history going on as well.Yeah, and you were talking, well,
I had some notes on you aboutsome investigation took place. I'm not
sure if it was with a groupor just yourself and whatnot. But the
chapel, the chapel investigation and abell ringing? Was that your Oh yeah,

(34:36):
what was that? A picture likethe middle of the night. It's
actually, yeah, it is.It's you know, horror movies or thriller
movies and all that stuff. Youknow, they draw from reality. I
mean, people have these experiences.So it's really interesting. And down south
in Texas where my grandparents live,way down in the Rio Grand Valley,

(34:57):
right, there's an old, anold farm, and there was a family
who lived on this farm and theyhad their own chapel. You know,
you used to have your own chapel. It was like your own village.
Your workers lived on the farm,the family lived on the farm, You
had your own chapel. You didn'tneed to go anywhere. Really, everything
stayed on the farm. There's anold chapel and it's always been this haunted
you know, it's always had thehaunted history. And me and my couple

(35:22):
of cousins and my sister went outone night and you it's just you know,
you drive down the long dark road. You know, it's lined with
palm trees because it's in the southof the Rio Grand Valley. It's tropical
basically, and you know these hugeold palm trees, you know, they're
hundreds of years old, and they'rejust swaying in the breeze and there's no
lights. You know, there's nolights in You're just going down this yes,

(35:44):
no, yeah, you know,and you get there and it's just
all that's left is the chapel,of course, and we go there and
we're there's and also there's when youhave a chapel, you have a cemetery
on the ground. That's where theybury their family and their workers, and
everybody's there together. So we're atthe we're there and we're investigating. We're
scared, you know, we're scared. It's a creepy feeling. You feel

(36:07):
the history, you feel all ofthat stuff, all of that It flows
through you and you try to andyou well you should, you try to
have it flow through you, becauseif you get stuck in fear, you're
not going to get anywhere, right. So but we're out there, we
get in our car and we're drivingaround the building because you can drive around
the building and so and that nightthere really wasn't any breeze. There was

(36:30):
no wind to speak of. Andwe drive around the building and we drive
back behind the chapel and there's asteeple now all of a sudden, dong
dong, And we were like,seriously, what is that Because there's no
reason for the bell to be ringing. There's no wind, there's nobody there.

(36:52):
It's the middle of the night.We're out there by ourselves, trust
me. We were like, we'regoing to die out here. But and
you know, and things like that, and it was there was really literally
no reason for the bell to beringing. There was no wind to speak
of. And we were like,okay, we kind of sometimes you hear
things or you see things like that, and you're like, time for us
to go. Let's go. Ifthe bell was saying come in or get

(37:15):
out, I mean, I guessyou guys took it as get the heck
out. We took it as thelong hornor and you have to go down
that long ass road, sorry,that long road, and it's like,
oh my god, it's going totake us forever to get you know,
and you're expecting, you're expecting likethe worst to happen. But you know,
also because your emotions are so high, so you really do work to

(37:35):
kind of like, Okay, everybodybe calm, everybody relax. Everybody's kind
of trying to attain this zen beingright where everything's great, and when things
like that happen, it's just,you know, it just proves. It
proves to me that things happen theirexperiences. Your experiences are your evidence,

(37:58):
and so I think that people haveto come to their own experiences and that
is their evidence. And so youknow, you always, you know,
you get the skeptic, the personwho's like nothing exists, that doesn't happen,
that's not a real thing until untilthey till the thing happens. But
there are the people whose things dohappen to them and they're still like nah,

(38:20):
no, yeah, that's snubburn isyou have an example of one of
those, nah. I mean,like there's a show on YouTube on the
Watcher channel, and it's these twoguys and they go investigate hundred places and
they do their little ghost hunt andone's a skeptic and the other one's a
believer, and they've been doing theseinvestigations and they've been getting evidence, and
the skeptic is still like, nah, even though it's clearly a voice,

(38:43):
or clearly something's happened to where youand I and all of us would be
like, oh, something's there forsure, he's like, nah, Nah,
it's probably the car outside, eventhough he knows there's no car outside.
Some people are some people are like, I admit it, they're always
going to try to find the logicalexplanation for everything, you know, But
I think we all do that.I think we all try to find the

(39:04):
logic. You know, we're alwaystrying to debunk everything. We're always trying
to find a reason for what hashappened or what has just happened, or
what we've just witnessed. But whenwe can't, we like kind of submit
to We were like, okay,fine, we can't totally totally. That's
what you guys call yourself basically integrity, right, you know, because yeah,
I think that's smart to do itlike that. But at the same
time, when when when it's somethingthat's all right, we've checked all the

(39:25):
boxes, for everything else. Mmhmm, it's hard not to believe it.
Yeah, it's there, it is. You know. Hey, have
you guys ever had an investigation whereyou felt you were in danger. No,
I've never felt in danger. Youknow. One of the things that
I kind of when we were againwe were at oc Paricon is the running
theme for me. There were afew things that happened at the oc Pericon
that I thought were really cool.One of them is that there's a faith.

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Everybody has a faith that runs throughtheir investigations or that they have they
protect themselves. I'm not saying it'sa religion, it's not. It's you
know, whatever it is for eachperson individually, there's something that they believe
in that they put faith into toprotect them. I've never felt danger or
in danger or threatened in any way. And I'm not saying that will never

(40:15):
happen. I hope it doesn't.But you know, and when you're doing
this work, you have to preparefor everything. So we say a little
prayer, We hold hands, andwe say a little prayer before we begin
our investigations, so we have thatshield, you know, we feel protected
from the beginning till the end.Do you say an entrance and an exit
prayer. Yes, yeah, wehave the protection oils that we put on

(40:36):
ourselves and little amulets crystals, andI think that doing that together, you
know, and it also allows us. Hey, we grow closer by doing
that together. But we also knowthat we all have each other's backs.
We're all in this together. Weare doing this together. This is a
team effort. Not one of usis doing this for some you know,
solo project or whatever, you knowwhat I mean. No, we work

(40:59):
together on our investigations, and that'simportant because I I I personally don't want
it. You want to share theexperiences too, you know what I mean.
It's like going out on my own. Okay, I can do that
every day. Why would you wantto do an investigation by yourself? Getna
would I would get I would fallasleep, I would get puzzas and no

(41:22):
one would be there exactly, itwould be there to help you. It's
no fun by yourself. Well itis, I guess it can be terrifying
by yourself, you know. Butwhen you have to walk through like hey,
you go this whole way, I'lldo that whole way kind of thing,
there's always like oh, my god, there's those. Yeah. I've
done a fair amount of these thingstoo, maybe you guys probably more than
me. But there are those momentswhere it's just your heart starts to really
pound. It's just and you're tryingto keep that even keel. Oh my

(41:45):
god. But there are moments where, like you said, it's boring.
You know, you get three hoursof what was that? And then then
you got that one second of youknow, when they said your your name,
Yes, that's terrifying. Whole worldstops just like that's happened to me
too. Yeah, that's happened tome. Okay, what was the name
that? Yeah? What happened withyou with that? Well, it was
just it was I was at work. I was I have a bar restaurant,

(42:08):
and I was at work and Iwas in there by myself doing my
work. And at first, youknow, we have like these hanging pendant
lights over the bar that I ownand work at. So there's these hanging
pendant lights. Long story short,there's four of them, and I'm there
by myself and this pendant light.Actually, it was like something hit it,

(42:30):
like funk, you know what Imean, Like something hit it,
and I thought a big old mothor something or a weird bug was going
to fall out of the light becauseit had gotten in there and gotten zapped,
and you know, then I'm goingto have this nasty fried bug in
front of me, lovely right,But nothing, nothing came out, and
like I actually and it started toswing, you know, the light was
swinging and it was like tapped,and I was like, well, and

(42:51):
none of the other lights were tappedand you know, or moving or anything.
So I expected to bug the funtto fall out. Nothing fell out.
And immediately on my left side,I was like Laura to the point
like where I turned. I turnedmy head to like who's I'm here about
myself? Who's here? And I'mgetting chills already yea. And yeah,
So when your name is whispered toyou, when your name is called,

(43:15):
when you hear it in an EVP, when you know what I mean,
it's like hmmm mmmm. And thenyou know, I don't really know how
to even really process it. It'ssomething that happened and something that happens,
but it's it will it will shakeyou. It just it just makes you
go hm. You know, youjust get three inches taller, like you
know, you're like, you know, so it's all of this, all

(43:37):
of this stuff is really exciting.It's very personal. It's a very personal
thing, right, it's exciting.It's like it's a very personal experience.
You're sharing it with other people andalso people that you can tell right,
right, because we're talking about thenormies, the normal people or whatever who
don't believe you. But you know, because you can't really talk about we
don't tell them anything. We don'ttell them, I don't call them norm

(44:00):
They just go yeah, yeah,yeah, and they, you know,
go get their stuff at Creator Joe's. I'm a proud weird person. I
have no issue with that iron weirdleg. Yeah. Do you think that,
like, for example, the voicethat you heard, could that have
been of course it could have been. But your thoughts on if it's something
that followed you from a previous investigation. No, it's there, it's there.
It's nice place as something. Yeah, it definitely has something. It's

(44:22):
there. It's in something at yourbar. What's the name in the bar?
What is it? It's called ourbar. It's in Koreatown. Just
are letter our second word bar rbar bar in Koreatown. And yeah,
we've been there for sixteen years andall the stories, I mean, we've
had movie shoots and videos and allkinds of stuff happened there over the years,

(44:43):
and more often than not, peoplecome up to me and go,
this place is different, it's special. Have I ever felt threatened there?
No, it's never been anything negativelike that. But people come in and
feel the energy for sure. Wewere just investorry. We were just investigating
the our bar a few weeks agoand Leane and I experienced the light coming

(45:06):
on and off just by itself.It was a touch light. The tap
the top light gets brighter, Tapit again, gets a little brighter,
tap it again, turns off.So we were when were we doing.
You have to touch it, youhave to touch It's a light touch,
but you have to. We weresitting across from it. We were over
here, and the light was overhere, over the bar, across the
way from us and on its own, and we're like, Laura, look,

(45:29):
and Laura, I don't know ifyou saw it. She's like what.
I'm like, it just turned onby itself. Did you touch it?
She's over here and the light topswitches over there, so there's no.
She obviously didn't touch it. Andit was pitch black, and then
we made sure to turn off allthe lights. We were even like should
we turn these lights off? Andshe Laura was like, yeah, we
should, and she turned them offand I watched her turn them off.

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And then we're doing an EVP session. We're doing asking questions and all of
a sudden, the lights turned onand I look and I'm like, Sana,
those lights are on. And theflashlight incident as well, yes,
flash Okay, that was crazy?Was that you? Or was that Christal?
I was. I was sitting ona bench like and I was walking
trying to get up, so Ihad to scoot my way out and this

(46:13):
flashlight Laura had just put on topof my bag or something, and it's
one of those flashlights you have topull to turn on. Gotcha, And
she had just closed it and justset it down, and I was just
scooching by, and the flashlight turnedon, okay, right before our eyes,
like we saw it turned on.And then I grabbed a flashlight.

(46:34):
I'm like, how do you turnthis thing on? And it's not a
touch thing like the other light,you know. I was like, you
know, you have to pull it, and I actually did it and then
it turned on. So I don'tknow how that happened, but that was
in real time. I'm like,guys, flash light just turned on.
You see that? And they sawit. You guys, ever have batteries
drained? I've never had that experience, so you haven't you have? We

(46:54):
were just at Zach the a museumthing we're talking about earlier, and our
video guy Wacko that's his that's right, his name, uh and it fits.
But he you know, he's reallygood at his job he does.
He works, you know, foriHeartRadio, for kiss a FM, and
he just the previous night he's everythingis charging. He's plugging in everything.
That's the whole. That's what hedoes. We charge all these batteries,

(47:15):
charged the mics and whatnot. Thecamera stayed fine, but the audio he
gave us these lob mics to youknow, to clamp on us fully charged
and we just stepped in started andwe weren't talking five minutes gone, I
mean not just not low off.So switched it out for the He calls
like a like a zoom mic,I guess we call it or a shotgun
mic, and he starts putting batteriesin it. Now, these batteries they

(47:37):
like for for a wedding. Ifhe shot a wedding, he would go
probably through five batteries for a sixhour, you know, say six hours.
We went through ten batteries in abouttwo and a half hours. I
mean, it's just sucking it leftand right. Now. Either either it's
possible these batteries maybe they got maybethere's something wrong with them. All of
a sudden, these batteries, allof a sudden they're mass but I mean

(48:00):
just sucking the juice and of thesebatteries left. The theory being, of
course they spirit used, you know, they sucked the energ different batteries to
get energy themselves. And who knowswhat's right or what's wrong with that,
But I find that fascinating. Itis fascinating. It is right. It
is what's happened to me at Alcatraze. Actually, okay, I went into
one of the cells that they saidit was the most haunted cell, and

(48:20):
I went in there and my digitalcamera. That was before the time of
camera phones, so I had anactual camera and it died. Then I
made sure to charge that thing becauseI knew I was going to alcatrazman take
a ton of pictures. No,it died. As soon as I walked
into that cell, it died.And then I was like, oh,
that's weird. All right, Well, I guess I'm not taking any pictures
of this place. So I goback outside, out out out of the

(48:44):
prison, and my camera came backon. That's just nuts. Somebody didn't
want you to take picture. Theydidn't want me to see them. I
guess maybe. So we've had Mike'sGo Dead and Hollywood Tower apartments, you
know, basically the they said theHollywood Tower Tower of Terar was based on
that. Who knows. But wehave Mike set up, you know,
doing the Halloween broadcast one year,you know, the Paranormal broadcast and h

(49:05):
just before we go on, Imean, everything's testing great, the engineer's
running around. We got three orfour engineers in it when you know,
gone right, just wrapping me sign. I had had that happen at a
and this old tuberculosis hospital. Ibelieve it was at Fresno. I forget
where, but when that happened,we had we had to go buy a
generator because it just did. Everythingcame to the whole radio show just done.
Because this thing just boom just goes. So these these investigations are crazy.

(49:30):
If people want to know contact youfor an investigation, like just walking
through what when you show up?What do you bring all that good stuff?
And then kind of how do theyreach you? And I would love
to know when somebody calls you,what are they what are they getting in
for? So we normally get emailsand dms. We don't really advertise our
phone number, but they can't.They email us at Integrity Paranormal Research at
gmail dot com, Integrity Paranormal Researchat gmail dot or Integrity Paranormal Research on

(49:55):
Instagram. They can DM us throughthat and they reach out to you.
They tell that here's what's happening atmy house. Yes, and then you
guys show up with a fair amountof equipment and whatnot and block out a
night kind of a thing. Youoff to go. Crystal and Laura have
a bunch of cool equipment. Shehas like EF meters. Yeah, I
use also like dowsing rods, right, you know, And I kind of

(50:19):
like to go a little bit moreold school, you know, I really,
I mean, I love all thenew technology and stuff, but I
really rely on what I see,what I hear what I feel. It's
really it's it's more interesting. It'sinteresting to me that way because it's a
little it's a little more grounded forme. I'm not looking. I don't
want to look at something the wholetime that I'm investigating. I want to

(50:40):
actually like look, you know.I wanted to mention that too, that
when you're investigating, it really forcesyou to be in the moment. And
this is something else that I foundout. Yeah, no, it really
it forces you to kind of likelive life. You're in that moment.
You can't be anywhere else. Youhave to be aware, you have to
sit yourself down and be in yourbe in your skin. So being able

(51:01):
to do that, not being distractedby all of these outside things that we
live in every day is part ofthe reason why I do this. I
think I kind of like your theory. And I mean I love I love
all the gadgets. There's so muchfun, you know, because we got
to have a little fune when wedo these events. They're super cool,
those and all that stuff, allthat good stuff, you know. But

(51:21):
there's something about for me audio andvideo I mean just I mean, dowsing
rods are interesting too. I'm notsure exactly, because people back in the
day used to find water with theI don't know how that works, but
it's somehow it does. It's hardto explain. But audio video, that's
just you know, when you getsomething. Not that we're trying to go
to court with this, but ifwe were going to court, audio and
videos would use. And uh,when you see something that you can't explain,

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and there it is, and youknow personally because the normis or the
non believers, they'll be they'll saysomething like, well, I'm sure somebody
was behind the tree or somebody youknow, there's somebody in the other room
banging a pan. If you knowthat nobody was there and you have it
on, it's so it's such apower. It is like, dude,
what okay, what is that?I have a buddy name Doubt Dallas,
Dallas Levado's name, and they theyhad a house in Texas that they lived

(52:08):
in for a while and if yousee the video you could explain it the
way easily. But she played inthis video nobody's in the house. They're
about to move out of this house, and the house is just banging.
Everything is doing cabinets and doors,everything's going nuts, and she played me
this video and I believe her.What the house is basically throwing a fit
because they're about to leave or moveout. I think it's what the story

(52:29):
was, and what the heck thehouse is having an earthquake, but nobody
else is having a quake, butthis house, right, it was just
it was that video. You know, I have to. I'll show it
to you, to us. Thisis something. And I don't know if
they still have if they still ownthe house. They don't know take the
back they sold the house, butI think they still know the owners there,
so maybe they can get who knows, maybe they'd give sacess to it.

(52:50):
They probably will. But it's justto hear a house. It was
rocking. This thing was so wild, any I mean, how do you
dispute how do you dispute that there'sonly one of two things? Either there
is massive paranormal activity that house,or somebody's in the room banging some pots
and pants, you know, soit's one of those two things. A
gigantic tractor drove by outside. Imean, it was crazy. When you
see this, he's like, ohmy god, what the heck? Hey,

(53:12):
when you guys, when people callyou for investigations. Have you ever
turned down anyone? I don't thinkwe've turned down anyone. You will cancel
on us a lot of times.We'll book like a home and then they'll
write a sense saying, oh sorry, I can't do this date we have
we have to reschedule. So thatbums us out having second thoughts, like,
wait, I think they do.I think I think it's a natural
thing. Do you really want toknow? Wake this up. There's a

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guy, Okay, there's a guythat calls me from New York calling the
Kiss Ofphem request lines. But hisparents' house is basically on his it's basically
historical landmark, not his house,but the land And there's a burial site
right next either right next to it, I mean like really close to his
house. And the parents knew beforethey moved there that that was there.
Their parents, his grandparents told them, hey, don't don't do this because

(53:59):
look, look, I mean it'sright there. Who knows what could happen.
Maybe it's just they're like, no, no, this house is beautiful
for getting him. Well, littlething's been happening in his basement. So
I'm trying to get this guy toyou know, set up cameras down there,
and he did. After debating,he's like, you know what,
I don't. I don't want toknow. It's different when it's your house.
I suppose you know. So itwas it was leave. They're kind
of like, leave well enough andalone. I just want to have my

(54:19):
coffee, you know, after theghost hunters leave, you're still in the
house, still there. I hada guy call me up. I've heard
just like you guys. I've heardso many stories. It's on one of
my podcasts. But he was akid and he was playing hide and seek
and the bait. It was himand the babysitter. I believe he was.
He ran down into like the littlebasement area to hide, and of
course you hear her going one,two, three, four five, here
I come, all that stuff,you know, And at some point he

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thinks he sees her in the bathroomarea. They had these swinging doors,
if I recall correctly, So hesees her like I guess, he sees
her legs kind of in the youknow, behind these doors in the bathroom
area, and he goes to runup to her to say something to it,
like I got you kind of athing and then he hears his babysitter
call upstairs, like, all right, the game's all where, let's come,
come, come, come, getsome food. Meanwhile, as the
babysitter is calling from I'm getting goosebumps. The babysit is calling from upstairs.

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He's looking at what he thought initiallywas the babysitter. He realized that's not
her. Holy crap, he said, he didn't go into that basement for
years. It wouldn't need doppelgangers.Is crazy, that's a whole nother thing.
Goodness. Spent another hour talking aboutthat. Well, if you guys
have something going on in your houseand you're serious about like what do I

(55:28):
do with this? You feel kindof lost. I'm guessing most people feel
kind Where do I turn? Youknow? Do I do? I call
some TV show? Whatever? Youknow? I mean, just what do
you do? Uh? Here's anoption? Uh the email once again,
Integrity Paranormal Research at gmail dot com. We'll take you about a half hour
to type that, but nonetheless,get on that. We'll get to us
eventually. Thank you, guys forfor hanging out, Thanks for having us.
It was really fun talking with you. Yeah, and once again,

(55:50):
thank you guys for listening. Ifyou have a paranormal encounter of your own
God, reach out, give medetails. I would love to get you
on the podcast. A three threesix eight two UFO one I camp.
We've have a number, I havemy girlst brothers. We need one to
We're gonna have to come up withall right, But once again, thank
you guys, thank you, thankyou, thank you, thank you.