THE HOUSE IS ALIVE

Listen as Dallas Lovato, Dianna DeLaGarza & psychic Lorna Bailey discuss the haunted Lovato family house in Texas (among other encounters)!!!

Episode Transcript

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Let's do this. Welcome to Paranormalish. My name is Joe, Joe right,
and I've been holding on to theseto this episode and matter of fact,
the next couple episodes for quite awhile, and I've decided to finally
put these things out. I'm soexcited. It's just these stories are just
too good. This episode, matterof fact, this episode and the next
episode features a couple of people I'llmention their names real quick. First of

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all, my buddy Dallas Lavado,and Dallas's mom, Diana day La Garza,
and then psychic Laurna Bailey. They'vegot quite a few stories, but
the main portion of the of thepodcast focuses on a house that the Lavados
lived at in Texas. Now,I've spoken to dem Me about this several
times during interviews over the last Idon't know how many years, but we've

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never got really deep into it.We just kind of touched on it,
you know, lightly. But youknow, recently, I'm in a car
with Dallas Lavado. We're just chatting, you know, me and my wife
Dita, my daughter Sophie, andDallas, and we get to talking about
the paranormal and and this house Dallasplays me a video of something that happened
in the house and my mind justwent it's crazy. So I think you're

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This episode is called the House IsAlive. Jojo on the radio paranormal

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or this podcast. I'm so pumpedtoo. I get this one going because
well a I love the paranormal I'mnot quite sure where this how this one's
going to go because my friend DallasLavado is just a crazy woman, and
I don't know where this thing takesoff. Dallas, how are you you
good? I'm good. I'm reallygood. Oh my god. Now introduced

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your mom here? Okay, soI'm Dallas and this is my beautiful,
lovely mother, Diana us nice tobe here. Thank you. Have I
met you before, Diana? Or? Is I think so? Years ago?
Right? Years ago? Briefly?Did you guys meet on the set
of The Helpers? Oh my god, that's where we met that. I
totally forgot about. Yeah, god, I forgot about that. Yeah.

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Me and Dallas are big movie stars. If you guys don't know, yes,
Oh my god, I love thatmovie. I'm sorry the movie though,
it changed the If you guys seea movie called It's Not The Helpers
or it's It's No Vacancy. Itwas originally No Helpers and then yeah,
they changed it to No Vacancy andI got my head well spoiler alert,
I got my head shopped off.How did you die in the movie,
Dalla? I was electrocuted in abathtub. Used to getting killed in a

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movie? Is that the first timeI met you too? Yeah? Yeah?
In person because we had known ofeach other, but we we hadn't
actually met in person because I thinkyou had done a couple of interviews with
Demi right back then, and thenwe got casted to do this movie and
my character another spoiler alert, butmy character tries to convince Joe. Joe's

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character to like cheat on his girlfriend. Oh, I remember I had to.
I had to like dance on himin a club. It was crazy.
It was just I'm sorry about thatedge and then I killed them.
Yeah, you're the one that killedme, right, It was it was
all of us murder. Laura,Hi, Lura, nice to Nice to

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meet you. You guys, tomeet you too. I've heard a lot
about you and I know who youare, so I'm so glad to be
here and thank you. I'm pumpedto have in you. Diana was telling
me, you guys have been friendssince like the ninth grade. Yeah,
in high school. Yeah, bestfriends forty five, forty six years.
Yeah, and still best friends tothis day. Yeah. How lucky.
I'm yeah, definitely, that's awesome. Yeah, and when did you realize

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that? Laura was like, maybethis question for you, Laura, and
I'll kind of bounce around with theI have so many questions for all you
insane. When did you realize thatyou were a psychic slash medium. I
want to choose the proper terminology.But when did you realize that, you
know, I would I would imagineat some point in life you're like,
wait, weird things are happening.I don't know what's going on. Then
you realize that, oh my god, I've got this gift. When did

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you realize that? Right? Well, well, looking back now, I
know it started at age three.Looking back, but I was busy with
life and raising kids and going throughchaos. But things just started happening,
and I noticed certain every place thatI moved into there was activity, and
I was like, what's going on? And then the last when I really

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started learning that I could communicate withthe other side is I moved into this
apartment in East Texas and things werehappening, and I just had the feeling.
So I didn't know my neighbors.I just moved in. So I
went over to one neighbor and Isaid, can you tell me who died
in my apartment? And she justlike fell back, and she goes,

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how'd you know? And I said, well, that doesn't matter, I
just know. Just trust me.I'd just even know who it is,
you know, because I didn't knowher enough to tell her, and I
would. That's when I really startedlearning, and really I owe it to
miss Dorsey. It ended up missusDorsey had Miss Dot had died in my
apartment, in my bedroom, andshe's the one who actually taught me how

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to relay messages because I was gettingthoughts and pictures in my mind and I
knew they weren't mine. So thenagain I would go to my neighbor and
I'd go, does this make senseto you? And she was like,
oh my god, how'd you knowthat? And I was like, I
don't know. But so that's kindof how it started. And I was
probably at age I was in mythirties, in my thirties, and then

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so we started this group seeing onweekend where we'd all sit out at a
picnic table because word gets around realfast in a small country town, and
I would just kind of I didn'tknow I was tuning in, but I
was in and whatever I got andit was the people could relate and they
were they were like, oh mygod, there's no way you could know
that. And so I really oweit to miss Dot for teaching me to

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descipher my thoughts from hers and relayingmessages, so around that time. But
I've had it since age three becausethen I started looking back and when I
was because I asked my mom,I said, how old was I when
we were in this house and thiswas my bedroom and I described my bedroom
and I was three years old,two to three years old, and I

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would see two figures at my bedroomdoor, like a man and a woman
just standing there. Didn't scare me. I didn't know any different, and
they were just always there at night, and every night that would scare me
night. This is a random manand woman just chilling in the doorway.

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Did you tell anyone like, hey, there's these two people that are kind
of here. What should I do? No discussion, just there. They
were years old, Yeah, Iwas three years old. I didn't.
I didn't. I just thought itwas normal. But one night something told
me to wave to them, andso I did and they waved back,
and then they just appeared and Inever saw them again. So really,

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I can go back to age three, but then life gets in the way.
So round my thirties and miss dottaught me how to decipher my thoughts
from theirs and gift messages. Okay, let me just kind of take a
left turn for a quick second.I just had a podcast recently where and
this your story kind of reminds meof this moment. This little girl named
Ava was at a wedding rehearsal inNapa and the parents are hanging out and

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there, you know, a typicalwedding rehearsal, and the little girl she
turns to her right and see something. Clearly nobody can see it, but
she starts waving in silence, justwaving. Then she starts saying hi,
Hi, And then they started askingEva and she was like I said two
or just just turned to what doyou see? And she goes pirate,
pirate. I know you're thinking,what, like, you know, where

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am I going with this? Well, she starts following this. You know,
what she claims was a pirate downthe hall of a church and why
why would I why would she seea pirate in a church of all places?
Well, you know, they gether back on her seat and finished
the rehearsal. The church finds outwhat she had said and they they mentioned
it to the brothers, that's whatthey call him at this particular church.

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Uh, they said, this littlegirl saw a pirate in the hall and
they said, up, that mightbe brother Lucien. Brother Lucian is buried
on site. They're great, guypassed away. He didn't pass away on
site, but he's buried on site. Passed away, you know, years
and years before. Uh and uhhe had lost an eye and he wore
an eye patch. We found apicture of him. Wow, he's buried

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on site grave twenty three outside thethis ablishment and he has an eyepatch.
So that yeah, I show youa pick in a minute here. It's
it's all myself. It's crazy,but that reminds me of you, like
you every day there's these you know, there's your pirate so to speak.
Right there. That's just nuts.That's amazing. Wow. All right,

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So okay, now we've established thatLorna is a psychic medium. We've got
Dallas and Diana here. I wantto start off with the story that Dallas
told me and in Demi's mentioned thisin interviews as well, but Dallas really
get into it with me the housein Texas. Oh yeah, this and
she Dallas even played me a videowhich we get to in a minute.
I kind of want to go chronologicalorder here if we can work that out.

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But you play me a video ofthe cabinets, just like you guys
are. It was you know,just wild. Yeah. But this house?
When did you know this house?Like, what's the first experience of
any of you get? Like,I don't know if it was you,
Mom or Dallas or you know,or Madison or Dammy who had the first
experience. Maybe you Okay, youhad the first experience. I'll tell you

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about the cabinet one after Okay,that was because that's when you guys were
leaving, right yeah, yeah,and we that's actually when soon after that
was when we actually started asking Lornato come over and investigate with right,
Okay, that was kind of thebeginning of our investigations. So things would

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happen. For instance, there wasa bathroom story, so we none that
should I not funny? Not doit? I like it? Okay.
So two o'clock in the morning,we came in from being with out with
friends and there was a bathroom inthe middle of the house on the first

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floor. Okay, it's like theguest bathroom. Guest bathroom. It's just
a bathroom. I mean with thea toilet, that's it and the sync
and I went in there one nightand I the toilet was back. Oh
my god, Okay, I don'tknow what happened. I don't We're gonna
blame that one on the ghost,but it was it was backed up,

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and I thought, gross, I'mnot going to touch that. I'll wait
till in the morning, right,And so I went on to bed.
I got up the next morning andit was sparkling clean, and I said
to my husband, did your dadcome in this morning? And maybe because
he would come over and clean ourhouse sometimes, and I said, did

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he come over this morning and cleanthe bathroom? And he said no,
why And I said, did youget up this morning? And he said
no, I'm still in bed.Answer that, yeah, I wasn't even
home. No, they didn't.They weren't even there. And so that
was like the very first beginning ofus realizing there was something going on in

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our house. After that, likeone night I knew I had locked the
back door and we had a dogthat was that he stayed outside because he
loved it outside. He had adog house there and everything, And in
the middle of the night he's inmy bedroom. So we never could figure
out how did he get in?Because I know, I locked the back

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door, which is the only wayhe could get in, and he said
it scared him so bad because therewas a storm at the time, and
all of a sudden, he'd likethe lightning struck and it woke him up,
and there's this dog it was rightthere. The dogs like never would
come inside. There was There wasalso a time where things would happen,

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like we'd be looking for a certainpair of socks that he needed to go
with a certain outfit suit he woresuits to work, okay, and we'd
be looking for a certain pair ofsocks and we'd tear the house apart because
he needed that pair of socks.And next thing you know, I'd go
into the bedroom and the pair ofsocks was laid out perfectly on the bed,

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not yeah, not put together,but laid out perfectly, when the
heels and toes matching perfectly. Yeah. When when when that happened? Are
you thinking, like is it myimagination? Like at that, I mean
maybe it's that's still early in thein the game here, right, very
early, So you're thinking to yourself, I'm guessing like i'd be. I'd
be thinking like what is going on? Like I don't think I'm crazy,

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but I didn't put that there,and I don't know who did. So
that's when you start thinking something something'sgoing on. Yeah, something's going on
here. And of course it progressedto our neighbor across the street when we
weren't home seeing a little girl inthe second window window yea, yeah,

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Emily. Yeah, her name's Emily. So we think that there is there's
a spirit of little girl named Emily, because we had multiple people Lorna obviously
like the most legitimate that we could, you know, tell, but we
had a lot of people like comeinto our house and and try to figure

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out like what was going on,and across the board, like a lot
of the people that we brought into investigate our house all said the same
thing, the exact same name.They described the white dress that she was
wearing almost like colonial style. Yeah, and everybody said the same thing,
and so it was it was prettycrazy. And then, you know,

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but like at the same time,during that point, we kind of were
like, all right, well,clearly there's something else here, but we're
not necessarily afraid of it because sheseems to be kind of helping us out.
Listen, she's doing jobs that Iwould not dare So thanks, Ems.
But the one thing I would yousaid the neighbor. I saw the

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girl, Yeah, the neighbor acrossthe street. Because I would keep my
window like my blind's open. Ilove natural sunlight, and so whenever I
would leave, I you know,I would just forget to pull the blinds
down and I would I would gettext messages from her like hey, come
see me, and I'm like,what are you talking about. She's like,
you're home and I'm like, no, no one's there. It's just
my dad right now. Like wehaven't been there in like weeks months and

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she's like, no, you're youliterally sit and like say hi to me
and like wave and it's it's socrazy. I know we weren't even there.
So that was how often did thishappen? Like oh, all the
time, all the time. AlmostLike it got to a point where it

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was so common for things to happenin our house that when we would have
like a guy friends stay over orjust like any males, we would say
like, if you stay in thisroom, like just be careful because there's
Emily and I let Laura explain this, but there's Emily, and then we
also think there's this other entity thatis attached to Emily. And I actually

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saw it one time. My unclesaw it. I saw it. You
told me about you told me theantlers. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's that's a whole other thing.But yeah, like to that one.
Yeah, it got to a pointwhere people would just come over and
we'd be like, yeah, justexpect that there's a ghost here, and
like so if you see anything crazy, you know, like, don't be
being scared. Yeah, don't bedon't be afraid, like like you know,

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like it's it's just common, likeyou're not gonna get hurt. Nobody's
gonna hurt you or whatever. Andso many people have like run screaming from
you. Is after saying one nightthey're like, yeah, I'm not I'm
not going there. What then doyou still do you guys still own this
house? No? I just don'tlet the people because I'm friends with the
people that bond and I don't knowthat they don't listen to this and they're
like, gee, thinks you neveryou never told them about you? No,

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he a little. I didn't meetthem, so it's not on me
fault. Oh my god, surprise. Okay, So, so Emily's there?
Who any idea who? Maybe thisquestion for question for all you guys
are certainly Laura. Any idea whoEmily is? What I picked up on
when I was there and I tunedin or whatever, I saw her in

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my mind and she is young something. It was like she was I don't
know who she is. It's froma long time ago, like colonial period
or whatever. What she gave tome the information was I saw her stomach
and everything like she might have beenpoisoned. You say, you see people,
you can see spirits in your mind. Do you ever see them in

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the sort of in the flesh oryou know what? Do I look three?
I've seen three real ones in mywhole life. All right, we'll
get to let me get to thosein a second. But the girl,
the lady next door sees and Emily, she thought it was you. Okay,
oh yeah, she just chills inmy room. She wears my clothes,
what's on my makeup? And I'mlike, hey, girl, thanks

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for hanging out, and what aboutOkay, you said you guys believe something's
attached to Emily. Now this thismay be opened up at the can of
worms. But what is There's definitelysomething else there that is not nice.
And I used to come over allthe time and spend the night, and
I will tell you now, Iwill never spend the night in that house
again. Sorry, Diana, No, she stopped spending. We bring her

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in to investigate, and we'd allbe around the dining room table and recording
so that we could play it backlater and listen for e VP and listen
for anything that we missed in realtime. And after the last time we
did that, Laura said, I'mnot spending the night here anymore. SORRYOK,

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my suitcase and left literally did metbecause because Joejoe, we had the
recorder, like we were upstairs,I was talking trying to get answers,
you know, and all that,and recorded it and we're all at the
table and we had to take quarterand we were playing it back and listen
to everything, and all of asudden, this loud what was it,

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y'all? A growl? Yeah,growling. We all just like flew back
in our chairs. And I said, rewind that. Well, when we
rewinded it, it wasn't there.It wasn't on the recording. This is
the Amityville Horn. Oh it's is. And so I took my suitcase and
I said, I love y'all,but I'm out. That's gotta be for

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you. That's gotta be crazy.And walking walking certain places for you,
I would imagine, like maybe walkingthrough it's creepy enough for anyone to walk
through a graveyard, you know,but for you walking through a graveyard as
a whole, and walking through amall for you, you see all this?
You know? Or what is it? Well? I can walk into
if I'm tuned in, Like beforeI go out in public and everything,

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I really have to put up myguard and get prepared. But if I
walk into a house or a building, if I feel any negativity, I'm
out. I can tell you.As soon as I walk into a place,
I can fill it out, andI'll tell you if it's good or
not. What if you have likeguy, let's say you go to a
hospital visiting a friend. Walking downthe hallway of a hospital must be for

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you terrifying, right, I avoidhospitals at all costs. Yeah, man,
because you can fill it. Youcan fill the energy. You can
feel the sadness of the people thatmaybe we're getting news of their loved ones.
That it passed that energy stage.It's fair. Did you guys ever

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try to fix the house? WhenI say fixed, like call a priest,
call a past or anything, likemaybe we called Laura man and Laura
Yeah, And okay, let mefocus on this attachment that the Antler thing.
I'm not sure what they call it, Dallas. What do we that
that thing? What is? Describethat story? You told me so.

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So when we first we always kindof felt like, okay, there's Emily,
but then they're just always seemed tobe like this unsettling feeling like that
wasn't it, you know, likethat that wasn't all even though nothing had
like bad happened, it just itjust kind of felt like there was a
little bit more of a heaviness thanjust like a nice little girl who just

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happened to, you know, diein an unfortunate circumstance, who just might
be hanging out here, you know, because because she wants to feel connected,
she's you know, on the otherside, and we seem to be
like a good source of comfort forher, you know. And so we
were always fine with that. Butthen this was I don't even know how

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many years ago, uh, severalprobably like five six, yeah, about
that. About that, my unclewas staying in the house, and he
woke up one night and he alwayshe never has to like set an alarm.
He always wakes up at the sametime every day, no matter what.

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And so one night it was weird. He woke up around like,
of course three am, you know, around that time. And so he
woke up and he's like he feltlike a little paralyzed, not like sleep
paralysis, he said, I've hadsleep paralysis. But I was just frozen
in fear, not like I couldn'tmove, but just like something was in

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the room with me, and Ididn't want to look over. So he
finally got up the courage to turnhis head to look over and see what
was there. And in the cornerof the room, which was backlit from
our outside lights, but it wasat night, and so all he could
see was like this, this backlitshadow of something. And he said he

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could see it as clear as day. It was a very tall man,
about six seven feet. It hadantlers long like almost like antelope antlers,
glowing like yellow green eyes, andit had hoofs for feet, and it

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was not human legs, and hesaid it had these long fingernails. It
was holding like the staff type ofthing. And he doesn't get creeped out
by like scary movies. He doesn'tbelieve in any of this stuff. He's
like, guys, I've been aroundyou guys for years. I've come over
to the house. I haven't reallyexperienced anything, or even if I did,
I'm just gonna chalk it up toyou know, it was it was

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just my mind playing tricks on meor whatever. That's kind of how he
would come into it, you know, as a skeptic, he said.
But that night, he as soonas he unparalyzed himself from fear, he
said, he stared at it forseveral seconds and saw every detail of this
thing. And he said he immediatelywhen he got up the courage, he
jumped out of bed, got hissuitcase and literally went to stay at a

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hotel and said, I'm sorry,Eddie, I can't stay here anymore.
Like he was staying there. Hewas living there at the time or staying
there for a period. I thinkhis house was being built or something.
And yeah, he was like,I'm not I'm sorry. I'm not going
back to that house. I willnever stay there. I'm not going back
there, you know. So,and then I ended up having my own
experience where I walked upstairs and Isaw it. But he saw it with

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his eyes eyes. I saw itwith my mind's eye, and something froze
me in fear from walking upstairs.And all of a sudden, I'm halfway
up the stairs carrying laundry and Ijust froze in fear, and I saw
this thing in my mind's eye.I could see exactly in Demi's room where
this thing was. And all ofa sudden, the door just slammed.
The light bulb busted, and thedoor just slammed shut, and it was

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just by itself. I was therehome alone. I drove to Waterburger.
I didn't even have shoes on.I grabbed my keys, grabbed my phone,
and I drove to Waterburger. AndI called her hysterical. I was
like, and I was like,I don't know how to help you because
I'm not there. But she hedefinitely called me. This is making the
Amityville Horror look like a Disney movie, this right, except no one died.

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Yeah, so, Emily, wellthat was before we got there.
Okay, who is this? Thisthat being? What is that Lorna.
Do you ever do he's on thator do you guys? I mean,
it's a very negative there's negative beingsand there's evil beings, and he's kind
of borderline. He changes, he'sshifts, he's like a shape shifter.

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And I don't always trust if it'sEmily or not. And Emily will hide.
That's how I know when it's trulyhim, because Emily will just I
won't feel her at all, andthat's kind of sad that this this thing
is tormenting her, you know,Yeah, she'll hides from him. Ye
wow. And we've said multiple timeslike we've tried to get Emily to cross

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over, you know, we've youknow, that's the one thing you want
for spirits. And part of thereason why we do what we do is
because yes, there is some likedark stuff, you know obviously, but
it's like that anywhere you know,there's gonna be negative anywhere you go,
any job you go to, anyschool you go to, you know there's
gonna be negative things about that situation. But there's also so much more beautiful

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things that we've experienced together in ourinvestigations that I mean, the scary stuff
I think because we've experienced so muchbeautiful I think that's why we don't get
as scared of the scary stuff,and it doesn't turn us off from doing
these investigations because it's so powerful youfeel when a spirit crosses over you.

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Literally, it's like this rolling chills. You feel so connected to like the
universe and what else is out there, And it's just such a beautiful thing
to see a spirit and feel thatspirit release and get peace, so much
so that it transcends into someone likeme who's not even you know, really

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psychic, you know, So it'sI think all that beauty and exploration completely
outweighs the negative for me. I'vethe feeling I've felt with the good has
felt way more powerful than any negativethat I've experienced out there. I agree,
Yeah, can you learn to bepsychic? And is Dallas learning?

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Has your psychic abilities grown? Yeah? Laura and I have had so many
conversations throughout the year. Laura hasreally helped our entire family unlock our own
individual I guess gifts. I guessyou could call it a get you know,
yeah, gifts and like I'll pickup the phone, I'll caller with

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like the most random question about likespirituality or whatever. And now Laura has
taken that, not just helping ourfamily, but now she's kind of gone
on on TikTok and she goes onlives and she helps other people. And
sometimes I'll just pop in for twoseconds and I just start immediately crying.
It's the most beautiful thing to seethese people reacting to their loved ones being

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able to communicate through a conduit likeLorna in such a beautiful positive way.
And I'm not just saying that.I mean it's it's incredible. You know
we I think we all have abilities. I think we all have gifts and
it's just a matter of practicing andunderstanding how what your gifts are and exploring

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that. Being open minded is thefirst step. Really, I think,
you know, I want to doan investigation with you guys. Please do
you would really have good and whatwe Joe, let me tell you something,
Joe, Joe, real quick,Okay, every time we go on
an investigation and I start tuning in, I will tell them in the car.
I'm like, they know we're comingbecause they when I tune in,

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and somehow they know and I canfeel them before we even get to the
place. I guarantee you if yougo on an investigation with us and I
there, yep, they know it, you will experience stuff without fail.
We've never ever done an investigation whereat least a handful of things have been

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undebunkable. Can I let me justlet me one thing, it was a
dream. Let me just say whathappened, and you guys tell me what
your reaction is. Roosevelt Hotel.There's a room at the Roosevelt where I
forget the actor's name, old actor, a room that he stayed in.
Is it Cliff Montgomery or something alongthose lines. You know. That's what

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That's why we set up an investigationat the Roosevelt. At the Roosevelt.
But we couldn't get there, Yes, but we couldn't get the room.
And I also don't remember the nameof the person who died there. But
we couldn't get that room, sowe we got the room next to it.
Yeah, well I got I gotthat room, and the room isn't
that far corner. Isn't that farcorner down that hall? Yeah, So

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I brought in, you know,uh, somebodies and we did a little
piece. We filmed a thing,you know, we didn't post it.
But well, anyway, that's besidethe point, you know. We I
got into the room, some friendscame in and said hey and whatever.
Then they took off. Then Istayed the night by myself in this room.
Oh my god. Now I youknow, of course, I'm kind

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of on high alert. You know, my lights are on on, you
know, and I'm thinking, allright, I need to I'm getting kind
of tired. I'm going to goto sleep, and I've knocked out almost
by You get so tired you fallasleep and you don't even realize you falling
asleep until you wake up. You'relike, oh my god, that just
happened. But tell me if thisis strange or if this is nothing.
But I woke up at four fortyfour am after having a dream. And

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the dream that I had was asif I was lying, I was looking
through When you normally dream, youdream it's happening to you like this is
me in the dream. I'm walking, I'm running, I'm doing this.
In this dream, I felt likeI was looking through someone else's eyes and
I was lying on someone's lap andthey were like rubbing my head, and
it I kind of feel like ifI would have seen a mirror in the

(31:00):
dream, I could see who Iwas or I was in, but I
was on somebody's lap kind of likethey were petting my head. And that's
the dream. Then I woke upat four forty four am in that room
at the Roosevelt. What does thatmean if anything? Well, the four
four four is significant, so thatmeans it's real. It mean it means
it wasn't a real dream. SoI feel like somebody was trying to just

(31:25):
tell you something or show you somethingor let you know that they were there.
And the other part maybe I shouldlook up, you know, the
actor's name or more, you know, more events that happened that I just
can't explain that that was so bizarreto me. Lord, Okay, I
need you mentioned earlier you had seenyou've seen three spirits. Normally you see
him in your mind's eye, butyou've seen three spirits in person, like

(31:48):
they look like you know, mestanding in front of you. I thought
it was a person. Yeah,give me, give me, give me
some of those if you don't mind, No, I don't mind. Okay.
I was living in Colorado for justa little bit. We were on
a two hundred thousand acre ranch wherethey actually the guy still rode horses and

(32:08):
herded up the cows. Okay,right, So I'm I'm in the kitchen.
My husband's off with his guys herdingup cows on the horses, and
I'm just doing the dishes looking outthe window. Now it's mountainous, but
well we're at it's kind of flat. But there was a line of trees
and I'm just doing the dishes andI'm looking up the window and I see

(32:30):
this cowboy on his horse, buthe's headed towards the tree line, and
I'm like, what is he doing? I maybe they left a cow and
he's trying to get a cow outof that group, right, So I'm
like, how'd you miss a cow? And so I'm thinking what is he
doing? And then he got rightto the tree line and he just what's

(32:54):
the word to piss? Decipitated justevaporated, just poof, just slowly evaporated,
noing, what the hell was that? And then and then I started
thinking, wait a minute, hewas like beige. He had a cowboy
hat on, he had the longcoat, you know, the dusters,

(33:15):
and even the horse was beige.Everything was beige. And as soon as
he hit the tree line he disappeared. Well, I kind of freezed out
a little bit, and I waslike, what did I just see?
What was that? So when myhusband at the time gone home, well,
actually I kept I kept it tomyself for a day or two because
I was just like, did Isee what I think I just saw?

(33:37):
And then so I asked him.I'm like, Okay, you don't think
I'm crazy, but and I describedto him what I saw and he goes,
oh my god. And so hetold the hand guy that's always been
there and they believed me, andhe said, oh, that was I
can't remember the name now, thatwas so and so he worked this ranch
for years and he loved it somuch he was buried up. They're on

(34:00):
the side of the mountains shop.That's crazy, son of a gun.
And at the time it looked likea cowboy Chase macaw. No big deal,
A big deal. But let's yeah, we saw that in La,
we'd have bigger problems. I'd belike, that is definitely a spirit Santa

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Clarina. Yeah, yeah, oh, any other of those three, give
me, give me one more ofthose encounters. I just find it fascinating
Camario. Okay, actually, beforewe get to Camario, I think I
want to do a separate podcast onthe Camario investigation. Yeah, that could
be a whole podcast in its ownthat that was bad anyway. Okay,

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So the next one, I wasin a group meeting, let's call it.
We're at a church where you havea group meeting and everybody talks,
tells her story whatever. I'm sittingthere in the chair next to a couple
of people. I'm right by thedoor, and there's a hall. Well,
everybody's kind of telling their same youknow, telling their story, therapy

(35:07):
group, whatever you want to callit. And all of a sudden,
there's this man sitting there kind oftwo chairs over and he starts talking.
He looked older a lot, butit was real. It was a real
person if he looked human. AndI was like, where did he come
from? I'm sitting right here.I didn't see him walk down the hall.
All of a sudden, he's sittingin the chair and he's telling his

(35:29):
story and he's encouraging people and givingthe people advice, and everybody's mesmerized by
him, including me, And I'mlistening to him because everybody's just focused on
him, and I'm like, there'ssomething different about him, and I'm thinking,
where the hell did he come from? And he's just talking and it's
just beautiful and he's giving all thesewords of wisdom, and I'm like wow,

(35:53):
And then I think I looked atthe girl next to me, and
I was just like, what inthe world. I looked back, and
he's gone. And he would havehad to have walked down that hall for
me to see him leave, buteverybody was like in a state of they
didn't notice, like in a trancewatching him. Yeah, trance, that's

(36:15):
the word I'm looking for. Theywere in a trance and soaking up every
word. And then I turned andhe's gone, and I'm like, there's
no way that old man walked downthat hall without me seeing him? Was
everyone else? Were they all sortof trance? Like? Did they?
Did everyone else realize? He justsort of nope? Just me. You'd
know what That's happened to me severaltimes in my life. Oh yeah,

(36:37):
where you were in Canada? Canada? He was an angel. He was
an angel talking to these people andtrying to help them. But he was
an angel, and I was freakedout for a while. What church was
that? Again, I don't knowwhat church it was. You know where
they where you can get a roomand have a you know group, you

(36:57):
know, support me. And younever know if hearn angel stories just out
of nowher. And sometimes you thinkyou're picking up a hitchhiker, but it's
it's not. But then you noticedwhen you they after the good deed is
done for you, all of asudden, they they're gone, and yeah,
and everybody sees them to leave.No, and everybody just resumed like

(37:19):
normal. And I'm like, didthey not? Just witnes? Did you
guys? Are not? Wow?What did you see? What's the you
said you saw something? Well?I think the one that comes to mind
for me is when I had twosmall children, I was actually running fever.
We left church, we were cominghome. I knew I needed to

(37:43):
get home because I was sick,and we were driving along the highway and
all of a sudden, I realizedmy card died because I had forgotten to
put gas in it. And I'mvery good at that. By the way,
It's not the only, not theonly time that's happened to me,

(38:04):
but we have a gas take literallysitting by our gate just for when there
was a gay. Yeah, wehave a spare gas can for that reason.
But I was driving home and Ipulled over. The car just died.
I pulled over on the side ofthe road. It started to rain,
and I had two little kids withme, and the service station was

(38:28):
not that far away, but itwas too far for me to drag my
two children with me, and Ihad no idea what I was going to
do. You remember, because youwere there, that all of a sudden,
this man pulls up next to meand he said, there's a gas
station, you know, a milefrom here or whatever. He know.

(38:51):
He was in a it was atruck truck okay, and he said,
let me go get you. Hesaid, what happened? Are you okay?
And I said, I think Ijust ran out of gas. And
he said, let me go geta gas can for you and I'll put
some gas in it. I'll beright back. So we were allowed to
sit there safely in our car whilehe went and did the work. He

(39:13):
got the gas in the gas tankand the gas can, brought it back,
put it in the car, andthen we started the car and he
said, now let's drive your car. You drive your car to the gas
station because this gas that I putin there probably won't last you very far.

(39:35):
Gotcha, And I said, okay. So it was we drove to
the gas station. He said,I'm going to follow you, just to
make sure you have enough gas toget there. We drove to the gas
station. He was following us.I went to put gas in the car
and turned my head to look,and all three of us said, where
did he go? Literally truck gone. He was gone, and none of

(40:00):
us saw him leave. He didn'tsay anything. He didn't. You know,
you'd think he would have. Hewould have said, okay, you
know you're good now, so I'mgoing to go and be safe or what.
Nothing. Nothing. He just disciplinedus there. And what was crazy
is the the gas station that wewere at, you could see really far
out like there wasn't It wasn't verybusy or like a lot of buildings that

(40:22):
would obstruct your view. I mean, it was it was pretty fi.
Yeah, so we would have seenhim driving away, yeah, and he
none of us saw him drive away. Instantly, he completely disappeared. Wow.
And so I wasn't even able totell him thank you, except you
know, maybe at the car whenyou put the gas in. But I

(40:43):
wanted to say thank you, andI turned my head and he had completely
gone. Do you think with aguy like that making that gesture, he
would kind of like he would say, hey, you guys are safe.
Yeah, are y'all? Okay,I'm going to go ahead and go now.
No, he disappeared. Gone,Yeah it was. It was pretty
cool, all right. And alsoI want to say, you know you

(41:04):
talked about when you were in theRoosevelt. You were obviously there doing an
investigation, correct, Okay. Ithink sometimes when we open ourselves up too
learning and seeking answers, which youobviously did because you were there doing that.

(41:24):
Then when you went to sleep andyou had this dream. And I
have a theory about dreams and visions. That's my gift is dreams. Yeah,
she's very good at that. Ihave a theory that if you have
a regular dream, you're going toforget about it. You know, it's
just a dream. You know,you in twenty four hours, you probably
don't give it a second thought.But like something that someone's trying to tell

(41:47):
you, something that you're it's goingto stick with you. And I have
some that have stuck with me foryears. Oh yeah, just like yours
has so like that lingering feeling,like when you wake up and you just
want to go back to sleep oryou try to remember all the details and
whether it's a good dream or youknow not. It's those ones that linger

(42:08):
with you all day and you can'tkind of stop thinking about it for whatever
reason, whether you want to goback there or you want to re experience
it, or there's just some kindof feeling that shifts in you, and
so it's almost like there's this lingeringother emotion that's kind of there with you
all day. Those, I thinkare the dreams that have something, have

(42:30):
some kind of meaning behind it ora message that you need to hear.
And obviously, because you opened yourselfup to learning about all of this,
then what happened to you that nightat four forty four was probably someone trying
to tell you something. Watch youlook up this guy's birthday and he's like,

(42:51):
I don't know at forty four,well maybe the year forty four.
At that time in the morning,Oh my, Okay, as I wrapped
this particular we're gonna do another towith this crew here. You guys are
just I could talk to you guysfrom this is fun. I want to
go on an investigation with you guys. I know I've said I really want
to do this. So I don'tknow what city where we I mean,
Laura you live, You're you're inTexas, right, Yes, I'm in

(43:13):
Texas. We can go to Texas, we can do La whatever from I
don't know. We'll find a place. I should see if the family would
let us go back to the house. They don't know. So, okay,
guess I'm going to be in town. By the way, I'm going
to do a stance in your newhome. Random guy, I mean,

(43:34):
have you met Emily? Do youwant to do that? Dude? I'm
I'm seriously so down. I mean, we can go to Texas. There's
so many places. There are somany places, Okay. Thing about the
thing about investigations, especially when youhave someone like Laura there, you can
be anywhere. And that's kind ofwhy we do what we do, is
because we kind of want people tounderstand that anybody can do this. This

(43:59):
is not something that, like Ithink, everybody is born with with abilities.
You know, whether you choose toto lean into that and open your
mind to it and your heart toit. That's up to you, you
know, But I think everybody isborn with something and Laurna. Having Lorna
there with us has like obviously madethings so much easier. But what what

(44:21):
we've learned in all of our yearsof doing this and all of our you
know, experiences and stuff like that, is that it's very easy for anyone
if you want to to tap intothese other things that we as just human
beings have a hard time believing orwrapping our minds around, or you know,

(44:45):
a lot of times, like themedia has made it seem like,
you know, all all of thisparanormal stuff like, oh, it's just
like spooky and scary and everything.It really, what we've experienced personally,
it's more beautiful than than anything.Okay that was not Camario. Oh yeah,

(45:05):
yeah, Okay, Paul's on Camario. I need to talk all about
Camerio. Oh yeah, that's anotherpodcast, you guys, get ready for
that final question on this one though, if we if Dallas, if they
let us go back into your house, which I don't want to get too
excited. Clearly Dallas is willing,I'll be on it. Are you willing
to go back there? Absolutely?All right? So Diana is in Lorna

(45:27):
made a saving earlier she said shewould never go there again. Lorna,
would you say that, wouldn't spendthe night? Take time is different for
her, She'll be fine. Okay. Final question, let's say we encounter
this thing. Is there a protection? Do you have a procedure that when
you leave a place, like,all right, I don't want anything to
follow me. Is there something thatyou do to protect yourself from something following
you out? Yeah? Yeah,all right, whatever that is? You

(45:50):
mean you want to know what itis? Yeah, what do you do?
What do you do or if youif you can say, I don't
know if it's like a secret ornot. I will A lot of it's
in my mind and tuning in becauseyou to remember too, everything that we
experience, they're in another dimension.So you're raising your vibration to communicate with
them, so you open up tothat other dimension, you know, right,

(46:13):
And I just have certain things andprayers, mantras, whatever you want
to call it to protect myself.Especially after Camra Rio, I've learned.
I was like, you know,I thought I was protected, but I
think I got up that a littlebit. Guys, here, this one
who All right, and uh,Dallas, I said that was the final
question. But one more question whenI forget who was leaving the house in

(46:37):
Texas? But you play me thevideo, Okay, that was your leaving
a video of everything was slamming?Yeah, was that that's when you were
leaving, right right? So whatway through that? Yeah? What had
happened was is so we were movingout basically kind of almost overlapping when the
new family was moving in. Therewas a lot of stuff that just kind
of like our schedules, we justkind of ended up crossing paths. I

(47:00):
ended up meeting them. They wereso nice, and it was the last
day that I was staying in thishouse. And I have a very very
very deep connection that I literally cannoteven explain or put into words about this
house and maybe Emily, you know, but just that house specifically. I

(47:22):
just I've always, I've just alwayshad a deep connection with this house.
And so the last day that Iwas there, I was flying out at
night and I was rushing around liketrying to, you know, just pack
up all my stuff, say goodbyeto the house. And I ended up
leaving to go to the airport,and all of a sudden, I get

(47:42):
a text from George, who ishe's basically like my brother. It's my
dad's artist who he represents, andhe lives with us when he's in from
Mexico. So he was staying withus and he was staying at the house
kind of cleaning up everything and makingsure that we were okay to leave.
So I get a text and Georgehad said, Dallas, the house.

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I don't know how to how elseto explain it, but all I can
say is the house does not wantyou to leave. The house is crying.
Yeah, he said, the houseis crying. And I said what,
and he goes, hold on,let me send you a video.
He sent me this video, andliterally, I've I've never heard a sound
like this come from anything other thansomething seriously like wrong with like a building

(48:31):
or a structure. It was theweirdest, craziest thing. It sounded like
the house was exploding and everything wasjust like this rumble and like it would
start and it would just start toshake. He said, the house was
shaking. All of a sudden,the sprinklers came on just crazy. I
mean sprinklers were going off and oneverywhere, like spraying, not just that

(48:54):
they were on, but they werelike the water was shooting up. The
whole house was just making this crazysound and they couldn't figure out where it
was coming from. Nothing was wrongwith it. It was like all of
the pipes and all of the structurewas just going crazy. And so what's

(49:15):
what's crazy is I get to theairport and Eddie ends up dropping me off
at like the wrong terminal, butI ended up making it to that terminal,
but all these little things kept happeningto prevent me from making my flight.
So I went up to the ticketcounter and I was like, listen,
you know, is there anyway doyou have a later flight, you

(49:37):
know, or is there something thenext day? And they're like, oh
absolutely, and just immediately were soeager to just put me on a flight
whenever I, you know, neededto fly out, and like that,
like hardly ever happens. So Iwas like, okay, this is just
crazy. So the house, literally, I feel, was so sad that

(49:59):
I was leaving that it told meI needed another night to stay there.
So sure enough, I ended upchanging my flight to the next day,
and I had one more night inthe house, and I was really able
to just kind of sit there andjust kind of be with with saying goodbye.
But to this day, without fail, since I've moved out of that
house, I have dreams about thathouse and me actually living there every single

(50:23):
night, No kidding, it has. There's only been like maybe a handful
of nights where I've just been eithertoo tired or not really sleeping well to
where I wasn't dreaming. But withoutfail, it happens at least once,
if not multiple times a night whereI fall asleep and I wake up and
I'm in the house and I'm justliving there, and I always know that

(50:43):
this other family is coming in,and usually whenever I realize that, it's
very shortly after that that I startto wake up. So I definitely think
that there's something there. Because Ican control my dreams, I can leave
if I don't want to be somewhere, but these ones are a lot harder
for me to lucid dream and therethere, it's a lot more challenging for

(51:05):
me to like like leave or wakemyself up or stop. So yeah,
I just I fall asleep and Iwake back up in my happy place.
It's safe to say this house isalive. I think so what is that
that? Yeah, that show thatmovie like Monster House or whatever. Yeah,
yeah, And I'll both tell youthis real quick. That house is

(51:29):
very attached to Dallas. It's likea split. I see a split.
I don't know if it's Emily andthen whatever the hell that other thing is.
But if we go investigate that,now we'll go. I will tell
you now that Emily bikes me,but that other thing doesn't because it knows
that I know. It's secrets.All right. This is beyond fascinating and

(51:52):
look terrifying. Man. All right, would you guys come back for I
want to focus an entire sew iton this Camario hospital investigation, because yeah,
they do it quite a few investigations. And Laurena, to my understanding,
you got picked up and slammed downto the ground. Yeah, don't

(52:13):
get knocked out in the concussion,sweet mother. All right, we're gonna
hear all about the glass in herhands, all kinds of stuff. All
right, you didn't like me becauseI knew it. I'm telling you they
know that I know them, andthey don't like it.