April 22, 2025 • 36 mins
Featured during Hour 3 of the Tuesday April 22, 2025 edition of The Armstrong & Getty Replay...
- Rand Paul's RFK Vax Speech
- Our Minds Are Not Ready for Tech Advances
- Jack can't sleep
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Arm Strong and Getty and he.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Armstrong and Getty Strong.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
And I've vaccinated all my kids.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
I believe vaccines are one of the modern miracles. Beyond
all Pale, The Speckled Monster is a great book about
the introduction of the smallpox vaccine in seventeen twenty into
our country. All miracles, But I'm not a one size
fits all. It's not all or nothing. I chose to
wait on my Hepatitis B vaccine and we did it
when they went to schools. That made me an awful person?
(00:50):
Does that make me an anti vaxxer? Because I questioned
the government dictative whether I do it? And I'm not
speaking for anybody else. I'm only speaking for myself. But
for goodness sakes, let's have an honest debate about these things.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
Senator Ran Paula Kentucky, who's an ophthalmologist, he's actual medical professional,
weighing in at the RFK Junior hearing yesterday, and you heard.
Speaker 6 (01:14):
The main point of his screed there at the end,
and you'll hear it more. The idea that can we
stop insisting we must all be of lockstep on some
of these difficult questions. We have to have an atmosphere
of honest debate, and he's absolutely right. Anything else to
add or shall we plunge on Let's hit it.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Biden's FAA exceeded.
Speaker 6 (01:38):
Its goal in Hello, Hello Michael, the co pay attention
if you ask me my opinion.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
The reporters are uping down the hall and they say
you still anti vaccine. No, I'm pro vaccine, but on
the COVID vaccine and on the COVID illness there was
a thousandfold or more difference between the elderly and children.
If you don't acknowledge that you're committing malpractices, you're showing
your ignorance. If you say a six month old must
be mandated to get it.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
The science is not there.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
So all this blather about the science says this, and
the science says.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
That, no, it doesn't. The science actually shows it.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
No healthy child in America died from COVID.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Look it up. No healthy child died from COVID.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
An amazing stat given the fact that we had yellow
caution tape around playground structures and little kids wearing masks.
Good lord, we haven't even talked about that part of it,
So that this was a school being closed and the
parks being closed on all this sort of stuff. Poor
little kids running around with masks on, can't see you know,
(02:42):
the other kids' faces.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Or whatever for no reason.
Speaker 6 (02:46):
Right even when that became clear because of Trump derangement syndrome,
absolutely unforgivable.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Rand Paul rolls on.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
So if you ask me my advice as a physician,
if you were sixty five or older, or overweight and
some other conditions, I would have said, hell, yes, I'd
take the COVID vaccine. The risks of the disease were
real and much greater than the vaccine. But if you
ask me, should my healthy six month old get it? See,
these are the nuances you're unwilling to talk about because
there's such a belief in submission. Submit to the government
(03:15):
to what you're told. There is no discussion. There ought
to be a debate. You're not going to let him
have the debate because you're just going to criticize and
say it is this and admit to it, or we're
not going to appoint you. But it's more complicated than that,
and this is why people distrust government because you're unwilling
to have these conversations.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
And I go home, ask your Democrat young.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Mothers, your Republican young mothers, if they're vaccinating their kid
for appetitis being They're.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Like, well, do I have to do it? Do on
day one?
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Is this precious little baby? Is there science to say
you shouldn't do it? Probably not, But it's my kid.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
You know.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
It's like, there isn't clear cut science saying not to.
Speaker 7 (03:50):
I need to start saying nuances instead of a nuance.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
Please don't, please don't do that. He pointed out earlier
in his screen. I guess it was edited out that
hepatitis B is generally spread through drug use of needle drugs,
and sexuals.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
You're making an assumption that my six month old is
not a smack addict having unprotected sex with randos.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
The idea that a.
Speaker 6 (04:11):
One day old kid needs that vaccine, then it's you know,
if I'm wrong about this, I will manfully announce it
and apologize. But I suspect very very strongly that the
idea is we will get much higher compliance if we
have the HEV vaccine part of the battery of things
that you give the kid in the hospital while the
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kid is there. And you know, if we let people
wait until it's actually necessary, we'll get lower compliance and
more people will get sick and hurt and die and
the rest of it. Again, maybe it's sort of kind
of well meaning, but I think we're all sick of
that sort of paternalism and dishonesty to get us to comply.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Rolling along.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
But on autism, there's no good science of anything to
show what causes autism.
Speaker 7 (04:57):
We don't know.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
It's a profound disease. I know many moms here and
dads who have kids that autics. I know them personally,
I've met their kids. But the thing is is they
saw their kids developing completely normal, maybe speaking one hundred words,
go to no words at about fifteen months of age. Now,
there isn't proof.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
There isn't proof that the vaccines caused it. That's true.
There isn't proof that it calls it. But we don't
know what causes it yet.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
So shouldn't we be at least open minded We take
seventy two vaccines.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Could it be?
Speaker 4 (05:26):
I don't know, But we shouldn't just close the door
and say we're no longer because we believe so much
in submission, we're not going to have an open mind
to study these things. And so it's sort of this
crazy notion.
Speaker 6 (05:37):
I have found no compelling evidence that indeed autism is
caused by inoculations vaccines. On the other hand, is ran
Paul makes clear again that's yet another example of if
we even have an honest debate and look at this
and have some more studies and all in an open way,
(05:59):
we will have lower compliance rates. It's all about compliance.
And again with a few exceptions. Maybe I think complying
with a lot of the vaccine policies is a really
really good idea. But the days of being able to
just shout to the sheeople what they have to do
and they'll all line up and do it, even though
(06:21):
you're presenting it dishonestly, I just there's so much information
out there they can't get away with it anymore.
Speaker 7 (06:26):
Are there seventy two that your kid has to get
to go to school?
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Now, I've seen that repeatedly. I don't know that that's true.
Speaker 7 (06:31):
If it's half that many, that's a lot total doses.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
Perhaps, yeah, And I'm including boosters, you know, I'm so
cynical about government. It's just particularly pre COVID, we paid
so little attention to this. Why would I believe that
somebody somewhere doesn't think, hey, you know what, you get
this on the mandated list, that's worth five billion dollars.
How do we get that through whatever committee to get
(06:56):
you know, add one more when there's already seventy one,
thirty six or whatever shots adding one more that nobody's
paying any attention to. You just take your kid to
the doctor and then hey, you need this group of
injections to go to first grade.
Speaker 7 (07:09):
And everybody just says, Okay.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
There's so much money involved. I find it hard to
believe that there's zero malfeasan's going on. Yeah, there's a.
Speaker 6 (07:18):
Very very little profit in vaccines, but times a billion, yeah,
maybe it becomes significant. The you know, the aspect of
it that.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
I think is likely.
Speaker 6 (07:28):
Well, I don't have any proof this is happening, but
the government and its mandates, particularly in the wake of COVID,
I think deserve whatever is the opposite of the benefit
of the doubt. If somebody came to me and showed
me the secret memo that said, look, if we get
ninety eight percent compliance with this vaccine. We will prevent
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ten thousand deaths a year. It's going to result in
about a thousand kids getting being autistic, but as a
net gain, it's it's a good So we're just gonna
be quiet about the autism stuff. And I don't actually
believe that's happening. But if you do, because of what
(08:13):
you've observed from the government, I can't call you crazy.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
Right, there's no possible way they know what the long
term effect of the combination of some of these vaccines
are because they haven't aroblem long enough.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Right. More of the Randyman.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Schizophrenia, I would put in the same notion.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
You have a kid who's completely normal to eighteen or
nineteen and their brain goes heywire. How does that happen?
It's the most bizarre disease. Shouldn't we be open Could
it be our food? It might be vaccines, it might
be our food. But autism is more common. I don't
know about the schizophrenia statistics, but autisms more common.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Should we want to be open minded? Instead?
Speaker 4 (08:53):
We're so close minded and we're so consensus driven that
the science says this, well, science doesn't say anything. Science
is a dispute, and ten years from now we could.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
All be wrong.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Roll on, Curly, roll on.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Twenty years ago, they did this enormous study and they
said everybody over fifty should take an aspirin.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
I thought, well, that's a pretty good idea. It makes sense.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
But you know what, twenty years later they measured it
and they found if you had no heart disease and
you were taking aspen, your chance of dying from a
brain bleed or from a stomach bleed were greater than
the risk of heart disease. You have heart disease, they
still say take an aspirin if you don't have changed
your mind twenty years later. But would you have all
said I was crazy and I should no longer be
in public discourse if I had said twenty years ago,
(09:33):
I don't feel like taking an asper I ride my
bike all the time.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I'm afraid it might hit my head. But that's what
country's about, is what this sentence is about.
Speaker 7 (09:41):
That's a good example.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yeah, yeah, it is one final clip.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
So just ask you to look at the larger picture
and give the guy break who says I just want
to follow the science where it leads without presupposition. I
think Really, what we have up here is presupposition. You've
already concluded it's absolute that ought isn't caused by We
don't know what causes autism, so we should be more
humble in what we say.
Speaker 7 (10:05):
Sorry, I didn't get to a.
Speaker 6 (10:06):
Question that doesn't make me say therefore, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
But you can't deny that we are openly having some
of these conversations thanks to our FKA Junior and his advocacy.
(10:27):
He's got some really troubling conflicts of interest, and he's
half a con man if you ask me.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
But still dat.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
Knows how to turn lemons in the lemonade. You find
a dead bear, what do you do? You just leave
it there? You bury it?
Speaker 7 (10:41):
No, you come up with a hilarious.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
Prank, not to mention the underrated, bringing a whales head home,
chain sawing it off the whale and then strapping it
to the roof of your car as its juice is
dripped down the window.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Barbaric.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
Okay, we got on a topic earlier we need to
fix when we come back. As we finished strong with
the is flatulent speech. I vote no, I don't think
it has First Amendment protections.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
It is unmistakably speech in this instance, and I believe
that Thomas Jefferson would agree with me, certainly Ben Franklin,
who was a big fan of flatulence.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty The Armstrong and Getty Show, The.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
I'm thinking about buying the Apple Vision Pro VR headset
for myself for my birthday. What sold me on what
to maybe own it this time around is the update
that Apple just did that I've been reading about. So
you can take VR three D spatial photos now with
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your phone or you can take them with the VR,
and then when you look at those photos, it's almost disturbing,
as we all know that something goes on with a
two D photo. I mean, it's nice to look at
a picture of your kid's fifth birthday party and now they're,
you know, college kids. It's cool to have that picture,
(12:13):
but there's something that's lost with the two D news
of it or something like that. The photos in the
VR headset are as if you were sitting there and
it screws with your head.
Speaker 7 (12:24):
Man, it really does.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
But I guess with the new technology, the latest technology,
they do a pretty good job of that. With all
your old photos from your phone, of turning it into
three D and having the feeling of you're actually there.
I don't even know if I can handle it emotionally
to look at some of those photos to be back
in the room when they're born, or their second birthday party,
or the videos. Oh my god, I don't even know
(12:47):
if I could handle it. I don't know if human
beings can handle it. Can you handle being right back
in that moment where it completely fools your brain like.
Speaker 7 (12:56):
You're there, Oh my god, my kids are two again.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Just just thinking.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
About it gives me the gets me all excited. It is,
just so I'm going to try that out and see
what that's like.
Speaker 6 (13:07):
Yeah, that's a really intriguing question though, because you know,
something that left in my mind immediately was there were
no photographs at all until fairly recently.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
And I mean a tenth of a blink of an eye.
Speaker 6 (13:18):
On the evolutionary scale, how far back do you have
to go? Really, anything that happened anything more recent than
two hundred years ago is obviously clearly indisputably something we're
not designed for. It might be harmless, or it might
be good. I mean, like antibiotics for instance, thumbs up
(13:39):
on antiotics.
Speaker 7 (13:41):
Wow, you're not RFK Junior.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
But no.
Speaker 6 (13:43):
The idea of pictures of your kids so you can
permanently remember how they looked at a certain age is
something that was unknown on Earth until very very recently.
Speaker 7 (13:58):
How about it? You can get can be there.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (14:01):
I don't know if we're built that way.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
I saw an example when I did the the demonstration
at the Apple Store of a kid's birthday party recorded
on that device, and it was like I was sitting
at that birthday party. Yeah, and man, ah, your your wedding,
your your people who people who have passed, Mom and
dad you know, no longer alive, and here you are
sitting at the dinner table talk. You can't talk to them, obviously,
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but it's it's as if for your brain that it's real.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Right.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
So I was reading about the reviews before I drop
a fair amount of money on this thing and everything
like that, and there was there was a link on
there about the advances they've made in what do you guess?
On the VR thing? And I had to click on that,
and I almost wish I hadn't. Now I haven't seen
what that would be like in a vision pro and
I won't because I'm not gonna try that. I don't
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want it on my computer. I don't want to link
to whatever site you get it. But I was looking
at the videos and it and since I've had the
experience of the sitting at the kids' birthday party or
sitting by the lake and knowing how that was looking
at the VR video even in two D and thinking,
oh my god, if that was in full three D,
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like I'm in the room, how would any man ever
leave their house? I mean, seriously, it's going to be.
Speaker 6 (15:26):
Taken break on Sunday afternoons to watch football.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
We already have a problem with internet porn. Yes, I'm asking,
is the human brain ready to, you know, relive your
kids to year old birthday party? Is the human brain
ready to be completely fooled, completely.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
Fooled by a sexual interaction. No, no, is the answer
to your question.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
No.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
It will decimate humankind or whatever part of it has that.
Speaker 8 (15:55):
Oh god, yeah, we we have of invented pleasures we
are not meant to have as human beings that we
can't handle, that a lot.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Of people can't hand.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and it will do us in Yeah,
we're in to bring new world territory there.
Speaker 6 (16:17):
Yeah, whether you know us on an individual level or
as a civilization or as a species, it's it's, without
a question, not good. Just because something can exist doesn't
make it good. I mean, people need to get through that.
Just because the society is doing something, just because your
next door neighbors are doing something, just because on the
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Internet people say this is.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Cool, does not in any way make any of it cool.
Speaker 6 (16:43):
You really, you know, I'm sure there's some brilliant philosophers
who's been more eloquent on this than me. But you
need to decide what sort of life you want to
live independent of what you're being told by people making
money or telling you what your lifestyle should be, or
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you will be swept up by people who do not
have your best interest in mind, and you will crash
on the rocks of pleasure.
Speaker 7 (17:14):
Crash on the rocks of pleasure.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
I think a lot of people would sign up for that,
even as described the way it was just described.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
That was a rough draft.
Speaker 6 (17:24):
I'd hate for the metaphor police to come and arrest
me for mixing too many of them together.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
But arm strong.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
The armstrong and getting shot, I'm some interesting sleep stats
for you. Everybody sleeps or talks about sleep. It seems
everybody does sleep. It does seem everybody talks about sleep.
I am having as I now officially called a crisis,
a sleep crisis, for the first time in my life.
(17:57):
So I got to spend some time looking into figuring
this out. I mean, it's a crisis. I've had periods
in my life, like lots of parents, where I wasn't
getting enough sleep, but that was just because I didn't have,
you know, the opportunity to spend enough time in bed sleeping.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
It wasn't because I couldn't figure out how to sleep.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
Now I can get into bed and just like last night,
I went to bed at I don't know when, it
was nine o'clock. I laid there till at least two am.
Last time, I left completely awake the whole time. Oh,
no idea. I had no caffeine from ten am. I mean,
I just and I have no idea where this has
come from. And it's just happened kind of out of nowhere.
It's driving me nuts. It's a horrible feeling. And then
(18:30):
you obviously you got all the problems with being asleep.
I'm looking at government statistics. This is from one of
your national health organizations something or other. Nearly before we
get to that, have you dealt with the guilt you
have for having staged bum fights for all those years,
still staging bum fights? The money, the money is great
shame and it's shame. It's easier than ever to find crazy,
(18:53):
violent drum bums. So oh that's a good point. Yeah,
it's really the golden era of staging bum fights.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
I could go outside the radio station right now and
find two crazy, angry people who'd be happy to fight
each other for a couple of bucks.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
He's not joking.
Speaker 7 (19:06):
I'm not joking.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Well, I'm joking that I'm going to do that.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
I'm not joking that I can find two angry, violent
people downstairs that would fight, or maybe over in the
sales room.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
For of adults report falling asleep during the day without
meaning to.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
At least once a month.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
Do you fall asleep during the day at least once
a month Americans? I fall asleep driving way too often,
always have. Really, Oh that's not a minor story.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Yeah, Katie's like, wait, wait, wait, what I.
Speaker 6 (19:41):
Know I've been hearing this for years you don't.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
You just try to slide that right by us.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
You don't fall asleep driving, No, I am octating a
diet that way. Well, I don't want to. It's not
like I think it's cool. I know, I know, Katie,
I know.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
I don't know what to say.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
You just well, a lot of Americans fall asleep during
the day without meaning to, at least once a month,
do you, Katie, No, I actually driving at your desk
or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
I simply can't do that. And I don't know we're
the same.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
That would be that would be astonishing to me if
that happen.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Yeah, I don't know if I believe this number, but
it is. It's a from the National Institute of Health's
health not not that I believe they're statistics, but it's
not most sleep statistics you hear.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Oh and then look for this.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
Almost all sleep statistics you hear about pillows and sleep
and whatever. You look at the bottom and it's paid
for by a mattress company or a pillow company or whatever.
Speaker 7 (20:45):
That's crap.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
But this is from the National Institute's about That'd be
a shocking number. If forty percent of adults fall asleep
during the day unintentionally once a month.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
I mean, even when I had my desk job and
I'd go and have a big lunch and I was
on the west side of the building, Gladys, I tell you,
I remember it so well, and the office would get
so warm with the afternoon sun shining on my office,
and I'd have a full belly and I closed the
door like I was on an important call. You maybe
I get shit ten minutes to show, but that's all
(21:19):
that was entirely on purpose. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do
that regularly in the car or sitting in a chair
or wherever. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (21:26):
I think falling asleep on accident is like NARCOLEPSI, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
You just kind of start nodding off. So it's a
sign for sure.
Speaker 7 (21:33):
I sometimes fall asleep during the hour three of our
show a second segment.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
Wow, that was way out of line. I'll tell you
what it is before I give the percentage. We've been
trying to do this for years because if you give
the percentage first, by the time you get to the
what it was.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Nobody remembers the percentage exactly.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
This is the percentage of adults who had trouble falling
asleep most days or every day in the last month.
That would be me fourteen and a half percent, which
pretty big chunk, having trouble falling asleep almost every day
I have my whole life, So I just think that's
the way I built pretty much. But not like lay
there for hours like has just hit me recently for
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some reason, it increases. And this is where I thought
it was particularly interesting, and this is from the CDC.
The percentage of people who have trouble falling asleep goes
up as your education goes down, as your family income
goes down, and as you become more rural, which is
surprising to me really.
Speaker 6 (22:37):
Yeah, lower income rural people have more sleep problems than
hard driving urban nites. Yeah, this is that counter into it. Yeah,
I agree, But that's the dark of the country night.
You got the crickets at chirp and you just had
you know, you got flapjacks.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
What's those John Denver song? I don't know what is
the John Denver song?
Speaker 6 (23:01):
You know with the the thank God I'm a country boy. Oh,
I got me and my pipe. I got me Old Phil.
When the sun's coming up, I got cakes on the griddle.
Sound not fall asleep with the lifestyle.
Speaker 9 (23:11):
I wonder if they have more trouble falling asleep because
they're not as busy throughout the day. Maybe like the
slower lifestyle, they're not so go, go go.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
I don't know, well, I don't know. I have no
idea what that is.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
But then they're the they're the uh statistics on staying asleep,
which is a whole nother thing too, which I and
I know lots of people have you fall asleep, but
then you wake up at one of them morning or
do in the morning for some unknown reason, and you
lay there for a while, which I hate.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
I just hate that. Phelly, It's just the worst.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
Uh. And then you know, you keep looking at the
clock and it gets closer to when you got to
get up, and you're still tired.
Speaker 7 (23:45):
I hate it. But breaking it.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
Down again, so education, income goes down, the likelihood that
you're not gonna be able to sleep goes up. A
greater percentage of white adults had trouble staying asleep every
day in the last month, then Hispanic, Black, or Asian.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Any idea why that is? My white guilt keeps me up?
Speaker 6 (24:06):
I know, yep, yes, yeah, Robin DiAngelo really talks some
sense to me, and now I can't go to sleep
at night knowing that my ancestors one hundred and seventy
five years ago did bad stuff.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
The crowd that has the least trouble, it would look
like from the statistics, is urban educated Asian people. Almost
nobody has trouble sleeping, getting to sleep or staying asleep.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Wow, why that is? I have no idea. Tiger moms
their heads hit the pillow and they're out.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
Yeah, if you have any guess as to why that
is with the.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Because in my mind, you go up in income and.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
Education and people are like, go go drinking coffee, high pressure.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
But that's not doesn't fit in with the statistics.
Speaker 6 (24:51):
Okay, here's your hillbilly elegy analysis. We are heavily weighted
in semi ru to rural America with the former manufacturing
job on disability, drinking too much, taking drugs, smoking cigarettes.
Crowd and their lifestyles just aren't conducive to get in sleep.
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They're obese, they don't get enough exercise.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
That is weighted.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
The statistic is that the typical rural lifestyle at this point,
that's not mean to experience.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
But is that overwhelmed the statistics.
Speaker 6 (25:29):
Now, well, yeah, that's I chose my words carefully as always.
I think that has weighted those statistics in that direction.
I don't know if it's typical or not, but there
are a hell of a lot of people who do
live like that.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
If you have less than a high school diploma, one
in six haven't been able to get to sleep most
days in the last thirty days.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
So education going down? Is that the stress of how
do I make a living?
Speaker 5 (25:58):
Or do you think that's because we've always like the
statistic to make this point of what is the statistic
we like two.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Out of three? That's my favorite. People who.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
People who divorce, who get divorced are more likely to smoke,
or it's the other way around. People who smoke are
more likely to get divorced. Smoking doesn't cause divorce or
vice versa, but there's a lifestyle that goes with smoking generally,
and so.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
That way you have landing at life.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
So what I'm wondering about the uh, the less than
a high school diploma, are you more likely to like
drink red bulls until ten o'clock at night and then
try to get to sleep.
Speaker 7 (26:38):
Then if you have a college education.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
I don't know that. Yeah, that's I think.
Speaker 6 (26:44):
Yeah, you've led us to the promised Land, and well done,
I say, I think if you looked at a list
of say four or five.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Or six I don't study this stuff.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
I don't know quote unquote sleep disruptive habits or activities.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
I think they would be more heavily on the lower
income end. But I don't know.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
Scratchers. The scratchers keep you awake trying to figure out
if you have matched three numbers. Don't know, bondo on
your car. I don't know. I don't know if you've
got any idea why as education goes down, sleep problems
go up. Now I am a college graduate in a
suburban area.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
I shouldn't be having to I don't know what the problem.
I do drink Red Bull all day long. No, I
actually can't drink that stuff. I don't know how anybody does.
My son and all his friends do.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
They love it, and it's horrible. It's horrible. I limit
him with disgusting.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
But and I don't I don't know. I might actually
have to see a doctor about this. At this point,
it's become a crisis. It's a crisis in my life,
and I dread over the last several weeks, I dread going.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
To bed even though I'm exhausted, just oh god, I
can't just lay there. And then of course that adds
to it.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
It's like when you're worried about if you're worried about
your blood pressure blood pressure checked?
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Oh, tell me about it? Yeah, no kidding. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
Somebody suggested the three ms magnesium, melatonin, and masturbation.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Oh boy, wow, night after night to get and stay asleep. Exercise,
physical exercise. Clearly, I get, I get exercise.
Speaker 7 (28:20):
I'm not doing anything different. That's what's crazy.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
None, no changes in my life, just all of a sudden,
can't sleep at all, like hardly age man age.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
I wonder if the bang bangs are getting to you? Right? Yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (28:32):
The double meal eating For those not familiar with the term.
Speaker 9 (28:36):
I don't sleep great when I eat like crap sometimes,
so maybe I don't know.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Stop going to Wienersnitzel. He does eat like a bear.
Speaker 6 (28:45):
Having discovered an unlocked door to Lake Tahoe cabin.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
What did I have for dinner last night? Let's just
use like a random meal like last night. This is
science last night for dinner, quarter pounder with cheese and
a mcflury. So there's nothing to Katie's theory whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Clearly, I'm just making it up.
Speaker 7 (29:05):
Oh my god, who eats like that?
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Jack, Armstrong and Joe, The Armstrong and Getty Show, The
Armstrong and Getdy Show.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
This is pleasant and delightful.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
A bread making craze has begun in my extended family.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
Oh cool, Yeah, I remember during the pandemic when people
started doing that, and so yeah, oddly.
Speaker 6 (29:36):
Enough, it began with a relative who has some sensory issues. Jack,
something you know about. I'm going to keep things vague
to protect the innocent, but say it was my uncle Morty,
and we would make reference to Morty bread and how
good it was, and Morty when he would come for
a visit would always leave a loaf. And when I
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was through with Morty bread, I was very, very sad
because it was so good.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Before I leave work today, oh god, Jesus boy, you
know Jack, you know what Katie? I just do you
want to go off and do our own thing? Could we?
Speaker 7 (30:12):
Would you take?
Speaker 3 (30:13):
We wouldn't ever. Yeah, Michael, you're higher and here you
can watch Jack.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
We're out of here, you can you guess it is
going to be like and this, this is this happened
to me at least once in my youth. It was
explained to me, Hey, the band just got a break up.
We just we can't do this and it's too much
trouble to do that. And so we're breaking up. And
then a week later here, yeah, they're playing he just
got a different dude playing your instrument.
Speaker 7 (30:35):
Oh my god.
Speaker 6 (30:38):
Yeah, wow, So that's what we're doing to Jack right now. Yeah,
we I'm really not gonna do it radio anymore.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
That's like the they break up with you because I
just I just don't think I should be in a
relationship right now. And then you see him walking down
the street holding hands with somebody next weekend.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Okay, well I'm going into bread making. You guys have fun.
Speaker 7 (30:55):
Okay, the bread making, I am.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
That's something I would like to actually learn how to
do one because I love homemade bread and it just
seems like could be a cool craft.
Speaker 6 (31:04):
And I pronounced, having enjoyed some Morti bread and then
switched back to the regular stuff.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Oh my god, it's just so much better.
Speaker 6 (31:12):
And so Judy got a new mixer because our old
mixer's motor was kind of funky. And so now she's
got this big, like industry looking mixer. And she made
a couple of loafs of what's known as the Morty bread.
And my lost student daughter made herself some bread, although
one of her two cats stepped on the bread as
it was proofing, which I guess means rising or something. Yeah,
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and so one of the loaves is robust and very
healthy looking, and the other loaf is really just excuse me.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Loaf, because I can't ruined it. Damn cats.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
The cat stepped on the bread. But you're gonna go
ahead and make it anyway, doesn't that mean?
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (31:50):
Yeah, I mean you put it in the oven at
three hundred and fifty degrees for a half an hour
or whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
It's fine. I don't know that I want letter box bread. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (31:57):
This tastes a little like whatever a cat walks through. Well, now,
I will tell you this.
Speaker 6 (32:02):
Having baby sat my daughter's cats for three weeks over Christmas,
she does occasionally get ready to bleeper. She does occasionally
refer to their mittens because they you know, they pooh out,
they poo in the box, then they walk out of
the box.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
Sure, that's see, that's not a tasty term.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
I don't like.
Speaker 6 (32:27):
They dip their paws and some paus and some sort
of disinfectant on their way out. Must clean the paws
after one poos. You know, No, they don't do that.
That's a great term. It is, and discuss we've got cats.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
And Michael, we're going to use that term patting around
mittens all over your house.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
I'm going to start calling people mittens. This is great.
Oh my goodness, this is many charming folks. I apologize.
I work at this guy and working with told me
the other.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
Day, but a bunch of mittens around here?
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Why do I put up with it?
Speaker 2 (33:03):
I know?
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Anyway? Where was I? Oh?
Speaker 6 (33:06):
I was going to talk about the various things that
are so far superior in their homemade version, right, but
we've kind of drifted so far away from it.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Like I brewed beer for a while. My brother brewis
beer and it's so good.
Speaker 6 (33:23):
He's actually got the cooler with two taps, and anytime
we visit his house he has home brewed beer in
kegs on tap.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Wow, icy cold on his patio. It's ridiculous. Oh, it's so.
Speaker 6 (33:37):
Although if I lived like that, I would be a
flaming alcoholic in three hundred and seventy five pounds. What
if there's a downside, But I'd be happy, and I
wouldn't be thinking about my problems, and people would be
more interesting.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
But bread might be at the top of the list.
Beer is close.
Speaker 6 (33:53):
I say cookies, and I'm a bit of a purist,
maybe a bit of a pain in the ass. I
know that's hard to imagine. Uh, I will not eat
store bought cookies. I just I won't because the calories
and the taste. No.
Speaker 9 (34:08):
Yeah, oh those cookies that I sent you guys, the
picture of of her break that I made.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Oh, they were so homemade. Is it's it's it's just
it's like sex, It's so good.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
I grew up in Wisconsin with a lot of homemade butter,
and homemade butter is just so much better than what
he did in the store. It's like a different thing
you each, brother, I wouldn't know if you put homemade,
and I had forgotten how good it was. So this
field trip my son went on to a couple of
years ago, they churned buttered. They I spent more time
churning than the kids did. But as I was one
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of the chaperones. But I churned up the exactly their
weedy little arms. I turned up the butter, and I'd
forgotten how good it is. You put homemade butter on
homemade bread and you have a flip and treat right there.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
That sounds wonderful. I'm guessing.
Speaker 9 (34:56):
Oh no, I'm just I'm in the process of trying
to make sour doughver because that's my favorite, oh of life,
and I haven't.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
I haven't gotten it down yet because it's complicated.
Speaker 6 (35:05):
But we missed the whole getting a starter going during
COVID thing.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
I wish we had.
Speaker 6 (35:11):
But yeah, Jack, I'm sure there are semi overpriced like
electric butter turns you can get from you know, sharper
imature whatever.
Speaker 5 (35:20):
We did it the old timey away with a look
like the thing you've seen in old timey movies with
a stick in a cylinder with a hole on the top.
It kind of looks a little sexual. But I mean,
you're you're doing this thing.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
Speaker 7 (35:36):
But yeah, homemade butter, that's what you got to add.
You have homemade bread with homemade butter.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Oh wow, I'm looking at how to make homemade butter.
It doesn't look that difficult. It's not hard at all.
I'm going to try it today. Do it, yeah, and
then report back. Oh so good.
Speaker 5 (35:51):
Get me a tub, not that sort of stuff to
get and sell over there at the store.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Oh, I know it, I know it. The Armstrong and Gettys.
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
Arm Strong and Getty and he.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Armstrong and Getty Strong.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
And I've vaccinated all my kids.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
I believe vaccines are one of the modern miracles. Beyond
all Pale, The Speckled Monster is a great book about
the introduction of the smallpox vaccine in seventeen twenty into
our country. All miracles, But I'm not a one size
fits all. It's not all or nothing. I chose to
wait on my Hepatitis B vaccine and we did it
when they went to schools. That made me an awful person?
(00:50):
Does that make me an anti vaxxer? Because I questioned
the government dictative whether I do it? And I'm not
speaking for anybody else. I'm only speaking for myself. But
for goodness sakes, let's have an honest debate about these things.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
Senator Ran Paula Kentucky, who's an ophthalmologist, he's actual medical professional,
weighing in at the RFK Junior hearing yesterday, and you heard.
Speaker 6 (01:14):
The main point of his screed there at the end,
and you'll hear it more. The idea that can we
stop insisting we must all be of lockstep on some
of these difficult questions. We have to have an atmosphere
of honest debate, and he's absolutely right. Anything else to
add or shall we plunge on Let's hit it.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Biden's FAA exceeded.
Speaker 6 (01:38):
Its goal in Hello, Hello Michael, the co pay attention
if you ask me my opinion.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
The reporters are uping down the hall and they say
you still anti vaccine. No, I'm pro vaccine, but on
the COVID vaccine and on the COVID illness there was
a thousandfold or more difference between the elderly and children.
If you don't acknowledge that you're committing malpractices, you're showing
your ignorance. If you say a six month old must
be mandated to get it.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
The science is not there.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
So all this blather about the science says this, and
the science says.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
That, no, it doesn't. The science actually shows it.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
No healthy child in America died from COVID.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Look it up. No healthy child died from COVID.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
An amazing stat given the fact that we had yellow
caution tape around playground structures and little kids wearing masks.
Good lord, we haven't even talked about that part of it,
So that this was a school being closed and the
parks being closed on all this sort of stuff. Poor
little kids running around with masks on, can't see you know,
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the other kids' faces.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Or whatever for no reason.
Speaker 6 (02:46):
Right even when that became clear because of Trump derangement syndrome,
absolutely unforgivable.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Rand Paul rolls on.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
So if you ask me my advice as a physician,
if you were sixty five or older, or overweight and
some other conditions, I would have said, hell, yes, I'd
take the COVID vaccine. The risks of the disease were
real and much greater than the vaccine. But if you
ask me, should my healthy six month old get it? See,
these are the nuances you're unwilling to talk about because
there's such a belief in submission. Submit to the government
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to what you're told. There is no discussion. There ought
to be a debate. You're not going to let him
have the debate because you're just going to criticize and
say it is this and admit to it, or we're
not going to appoint you. But it's more complicated than that,
and this is why people distrust government because you're unwilling
to have these conversations.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
And I go home, ask your Democrat young.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Mothers, your Republican young mothers, if they're vaccinating their kid
for appetitis being They're.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Like, well, do I have to do it? Do on
day one?
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Is this precious little baby? Is there science to say
you shouldn't do it? Probably not, But it's my kid.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
You know.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
It's like, there isn't clear cut science saying not to.
Speaker 7 (03:50):
I need to start saying nuances instead of a nuance.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
Please don't, please don't do that. He pointed out earlier
in his screen. I guess it was edited out that
hepatitis B is generally spread through drug use of needle drugs,
and sexuals.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
You're making an assumption that my six month old is
not a smack addict having unprotected sex with randos.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
The idea that a.
Speaker 6 (04:11):
One day old kid needs that vaccine, then it's you know,
if I'm wrong about this, I will manfully announce it
and apologize. But I suspect very very strongly that the
idea is we will get much higher compliance if we
have the HEV vaccine part of the battery of things
that you give the kid in the hospital while the
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kid is there. And you know, if we let people
wait until it's actually necessary, we'll get lower compliance and
more people will get sick and hurt and die and
the rest of it. Again, maybe it's sort of kind
of well meaning, but I think we're all sick of
that sort of paternalism and dishonesty to get us to comply.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Rolling along.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
But on autism, there's no good science of anything to
show what causes autism.
Speaker 7 (04:57):
We don't know.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
It's a profound disease. I know many moms here and
dads who have kids that autics. I know them personally,
I've met their kids. But the thing is is they
saw their kids developing completely normal, maybe speaking one hundred words,
go to no words at about fifteen months of age. Now,
there isn't proof.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
There isn't proof that the vaccines caused it. That's true.
There isn't proof that it calls it. But we don't
know what causes it yet.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
So shouldn't we be at least open minded We take
seventy two vaccines.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Could it be?
Speaker 4 (05:26):
I don't know, But we shouldn't just close the door
and say we're no longer because we believe so much
in submission, we're not going to have an open mind
to study these things. And so it's sort of this
crazy notion.
Speaker 6 (05:37):
I have found no compelling evidence that indeed autism is
caused by inoculations vaccines. On the other hand, is ran
Paul makes clear again that's yet another example of if
we even have an honest debate and look at this
and have some more studies and all in an open way,
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we will have lower compliance rates. It's all about compliance.
And again with a few exceptions. Maybe I think complying
with a lot of the vaccine policies is a really
really good idea. But the days of being able to
just shout to the sheeople what they have to do
and they'll all line up and do it, even though
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you're presenting it dishonestly, I just there's so much information
out there they can't get away with it anymore.
Speaker 7 (06:26):
Are there seventy two that your kid has to get
to go to school?
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Now, I've seen that repeatedly. I don't know that that's true.
Speaker 7 (06:31):
If it's half that many, that's a lot total doses.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
Perhaps, yeah, And I'm including boosters, you know, I'm so
cynical about government. It's just particularly pre COVID, we paid
so little attention to this. Why would I believe that
somebody somewhere doesn't think, hey, you know what, you get
this on the mandated list, that's worth five billion dollars.
How do we get that through whatever committee to get
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you know, add one more when there's already seventy one,
thirty six or whatever shots adding one more that nobody's
paying any attention to. You just take your kid to
the doctor and then hey, you need this group of
injections to go to first grade.
Speaker 7 (07:09):
And everybody just says, Okay.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
There's so much money involved. I find it hard to
believe that there's zero malfeasan's going on. Yeah, there's a.
Speaker 6 (07:18):
Very very little profit in vaccines, but times a billion, yeah,
maybe it becomes significant. The you know, the aspect of
it that.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
I think is likely.
Speaker 6 (07:28):
Well, I don't have any proof this is happening, but
the government and its mandates, particularly in the wake of COVID,
I think deserve whatever is the opposite of the benefit
of the doubt. If somebody came to me and showed
me the secret memo that said, look, if we get
ninety eight percent compliance with this vaccine. We will prevent
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ten thousand deaths a year. It's going to result in
about a thousand kids getting being autistic, but as a
net gain, it's it's a good So we're just gonna
be quiet about the autism stuff. And I don't actually
believe that's happening. But if you do, because of what
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you've observed from the government, I can't call you crazy.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
Right, there's no possible way they know what the long
term effect of the combination of some of these vaccines
are because they haven't aroblem long enough.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Right. More of the Randyman.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Schizophrenia, I would put in the same notion.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
You have a kid who's completely normal to eighteen or
nineteen and their brain goes heywire. How does that happen?
It's the most bizarre disease. Shouldn't we be open Could
it be our food? It might be vaccines, it might
be our food. But autism is more common. I don't
know about the schizophrenia statistics, but autisms more common.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Should we want to be open minded? Instead?
Speaker 4 (08:53):
We're so close minded and we're so consensus driven that
the science says this, well, science doesn't say anything. Science
is a dispute, and ten years from now we could.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
All be wrong.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Roll on, Curly, roll on.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Twenty years ago, they did this enormous study and they
said everybody over fifty should take an aspirin.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
I thought, well, that's a pretty good idea. It makes sense.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
But you know what, twenty years later they measured it
and they found if you had no heart disease and
you were taking aspen, your chance of dying from a
brain bleed or from a stomach bleed were greater than
the risk of heart disease. You have heart disease, they
still say take an aspirin if you don't have changed
your mind twenty years later. But would you have all
said I was crazy and I should no longer be
in public discourse if I had said twenty years ago,
(09:33):
I don't feel like taking an asper I ride my
bike all the time.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I'm afraid it might hit my head. But that's what
country's about, is what this sentence is about.
Speaker 7 (09:41):
That's a good example.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yeah, yeah, it is one final clip.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
So just ask you to look at the larger picture
and give the guy break who says I just want
to follow the science where it leads without presupposition. I
think Really, what we have up here is presupposition. You've
already concluded it's absolute that ought isn't caused by We
don't know what causes autism, so we should be more
humble in what we say.
Speaker 7 (10:05):
Sorry, I didn't get to a.
Speaker 6 (10:06):
Question that doesn't make me say therefore, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
But you can't deny that we are openly having some
of these conversations thanks to our FKA Junior and his advocacy.
(10:27):
He's got some really troubling conflicts of interest, and he's
half a con man if you ask me.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
But still dat.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
Knows how to turn lemons in the lemonade. You find
a dead bear, what do you do? You just leave
it there? You bury it?
Speaker 7 (10:41):
No, you come up with a hilarious.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
Prank, not to mention the underrated, bringing a whales head home,
chain sawing it off the whale and then strapping it
to the roof of your car as its juice is
dripped down the window.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Barbaric.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
Okay, we got on a topic earlier we need to
fix when we come back. As we finished strong with
the is flatulent speech. I vote no, I don't think
it has First Amendment protections.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
It is unmistakably speech in this instance, and I believe
that Thomas Jefferson would agree with me, certainly Ben Franklin,
who was a big fan of flatulence.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty The Armstrong and Getty Show, The.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
I'm thinking about buying the Apple Vision Pro VR headset
for myself for my birthday. What sold me on what
to maybe own it this time around is the update
that Apple just did that I've been reading about. So
you can take VR three D spatial photos now with
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your phone or you can take them with the VR,
and then when you look at those photos, it's almost disturbing,
as we all know that something goes on with a
two D photo. I mean, it's nice to look at
a picture of your kid's fifth birthday party and now they're,
you know, college kids. It's cool to have that picture,
(12:13):
but there's something that's lost with the two D news
of it or something like that. The photos in the
VR headset are as if you were sitting there and
it screws with your head.
Speaker 7 (12:24):
Man, it really does.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
But I guess with the new technology, the latest technology,
they do a pretty good job of that. With all
your old photos from your phone, of turning it into
three D and having the feeling of you're actually there.
I don't even know if I can handle it emotionally
to look at some of those photos to be back
in the room when they're born, or their second birthday party,
or the videos. Oh my god, I don't even know
(12:47):
if I could handle it. I don't know if human
beings can handle it. Can you handle being right back
in that moment where it completely fools your brain like.
Speaker 7 (12:56):
You're there, Oh my god, my kids are two again.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Just just thinking.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
About it gives me the gets me all excited. It is,
just so I'm going to try that out and see
what that's like.
Speaker 6 (13:07):
Yeah, that's a really intriguing question though, because you know,
something that left in my mind immediately was there were
no photographs at all until fairly recently.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
And I mean a tenth of a blink of an eye.
Speaker 6 (13:18):
On the evolutionary scale, how far back do you have
to go? Really, anything that happened anything more recent than
two hundred years ago is obviously clearly indisputably something we're
not designed for. It might be harmless, or it might
be good. I mean, like antibiotics for instance, thumbs up
(13:39):
on antiotics.
Speaker 7 (13:41):
Wow, you're not RFK Junior.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
But no.
Speaker 6 (13:43):
The idea of pictures of your kids so you can
permanently remember how they looked at a certain age is
something that was unknown on Earth until very very recently.
Speaker 7 (13:58):
How about it? You can get can be there.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (14:01):
I don't know if we're built that way.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
I saw an example when I did the the demonstration
at the Apple Store of a kid's birthday party recorded
on that device, and it was like I was sitting
at that birthday party. Yeah, and man, ah, your your wedding,
your your people who people who have passed, Mom and
dad you know, no longer alive, and here you are
sitting at the dinner table talk. You can't talk to them, obviously,
(14:28):
but it's it's as if for your brain that it's real.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Right.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
So I was reading about the reviews before I drop
a fair amount of money on this thing and everything
like that, and there was there was a link on
there about the advances they've made in what do you guess?
On the VR thing? And I had to click on that,
and I almost wish I hadn't. Now I haven't seen
what that would be like in a vision pro and
I won't because I'm not gonna try that. I don't
(14:54):
want it on my computer. I don't want to link
to whatever site you get it. But I was looking
at the videos and it and since I've had the
experience of the sitting at the kids' birthday party or
sitting by the lake and knowing how that was looking
at the VR video even in two D and thinking,
oh my god, if that was in full three D,
(15:15):
like I'm in the room, how would any man ever
leave their house? I mean, seriously, it's going to be.
Speaker 6 (15:26):
Taken break on Sunday afternoons to watch football.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
We already have a problem with internet porn. Yes, I'm asking,
is the human brain ready to, you know, relive your
kids to year old birthday party? Is the human brain
ready to be completely fooled, completely.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
Fooled by a sexual interaction. No, no, is the answer
to your question.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
No.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
It will decimate humankind or whatever part of it has that.
Speaker 8 (15:55):
Oh god, yeah, we we have of invented pleasures we
are not meant to have as human beings that we
can't handle, that a lot.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Of people can't hand.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and it will do us in Yeah,
we're in to bring new world territory there.
Speaker 6 (16:17):
Yeah, whether you know us on an individual level or
as a civilization or as a species, it's it's, without
a question, not good. Just because something can exist doesn't
make it good. I mean, people need to get through that.
Just because the society is doing something, just because your
next door neighbors are doing something, just because on the
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Internet people say this is.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Cool, does not in any way make any of it cool.
Speaker 6 (16:43):
You really, you know, I'm sure there's some brilliant philosophers
who's been more eloquent on this than me. But you
need to decide what sort of life you want to
live independent of what you're being told by people making
money or telling you what your lifestyle should be, or
(17:05):
you will be swept up by people who do not
have your best interest in mind, and you will crash
on the rocks of pleasure.
Speaker 7 (17:14):
Crash on the rocks of pleasure.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
I think a lot of people would sign up for that,
even as described the way it was just described.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
That was a rough draft.
Speaker 6 (17:24):
I'd hate for the metaphor police to come and arrest
me for mixing too many of them together.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
But arm strong.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
The armstrong and getting shot, I'm some interesting sleep stats
for you. Everybody sleeps or talks about sleep. It seems
everybody does sleep. It does seem everybody talks about sleep.
I am having as I now officially called a crisis,
a sleep crisis, for the first time in my life.
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So I got to spend some time looking into figuring
this out. I mean, it's a crisis. I've had periods
in my life, like lots of parents, where I wasn't
getting enough sleep, but that was just because I didn't have,
you know, the opportunity to spend enough time in bed sleeping.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
It wasn't because I couldn't figure out how to sleep.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
Now I can get into bed and just like last night,
I went to bed at I don't know when, it
was nine o'clock. I laid there till at least two am.
Last time, I left completely awake the whole time. Oh,
no idea. I had no caffeine from ten am. I mean,
I just and I have no idea where this has
come from. And it's just happened kind of out of nowhere.
It's driving me nuts. It's a horrible feeling. And then
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you obviously you got all the problems with being asleep.
I'm looking at government statistics. This is from one of
your national health organizations something or other. Nearly before we
get to that, have you dealt with the guilt you
have for having staged bum fights for all those years,
still staging bum fights? The money, the money is great
shame and it's shame. It's easier than ever to find crazy,
(18:53):
violent drum bums. So oh that's a good point. Yeah,
it's really the golden era of staging bum fights.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
I could go outside the radio station right now and
find two crazy, angry people who'd be happy to fight
each other for a couple of bucks.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
He's not joking.
Speaker 7 (19:06):
I'm not joking.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Well, I'm joking that I'm going to do that.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
I'm not joking that I can find two angry, violent
people downstairs that would fight, or maybe over in the
sales room.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
For of adults report falling asleep during the day without
meaning to.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
At least once a month.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
Do you fall asleep during the day at least once
a month Americans? I fall asleep driving way too often,
always have. Really, Oh that's not a minor story.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Yeah, Katie's like, wait, wait, wait, what I.
Speaker 6 (19:41):
Know I've been hearing this for years you don't.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
You just try to slide that right by us.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
You don't fall asleep driving, No, I am octating a
diet that way. Well, I don't want to. It's not
like I think it's cool. I know, I know, Katie,
I know.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
I don't know what to say.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
You just well, a lot of Americans fall asleep during
the day without meaning to, at least once a month,
do you, Katie, No, I actually driving at your desk
or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
I simply can't do that. And I don't know we're
the same.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
That would be that would be astonishing to me if
that happen.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Yeah, I don't know if I believe this number, but
it is. It's a from the National Institute of Health's
health not not that I believe they're statistics, but it's
not most sleep statistics you hear.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Oh and then look for this.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
Almost all sleep statistics you hear about pillows and sleep
and whatever. You look at the bottom and it's paid
for by a mattress company or a pillow company or whatever.
Speaker 7 (20:45):
That's crap.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
But this is from the National Institute's about That'd be
a shocking number. If forty percent of adults fall asleep
during the day unintentionally once a month.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
I mean, even when I had my desk job and
I'd go and have a big lunch and I was
on the west side of the building, Gladys, I tell you,
I remember it so well, and the office would get
so warm with the afternoon sun shining on my office,
and I'd have a full belly and I closed the
door like I was on an important call. You maybe
I get shit ten minutes to show, but that's all
(21:19):
that was entirely on purpose. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do
that regularly in the car or sitting in a chair
or wherever. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (21:26):
I think falling asleep on accident is like NARCOLEPSI, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
You just kind of start nodding off. So it's a
sign for sure.
Speaker 7 (21:33):
I sometimes fall asleep during the hour three of our
show a second segment.
Speaker 5 (21:38):
Wow, that was way out of line. I'll tell you
what it is before I give the percentage. We've been
trying to do this for years because if you give
the percentage first, by the time you get to the
what it was.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Nobody remembers the percentage exactly.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
This is the percentage of adults who had trouble falling
asleep most days or every day in the last month.
That would be me fourteen and a half percent, which
pretty big chunk, having trouble falling asleep almost every day
I have my whole life, So I just think that's
the way I built pretty much. But not like lay
there for hours like has just hit me recently for
(22:17):
some reason, it increases. And this is where I thought
it was particularly interesting, and this is from the CDC.
The percentage of people who have trouble falling asleep goes
up as your education goes down, as your family income
goes down, and as you become more rural, which is
surprising to me really.
Speaker 6 (22:37):
Yeah, lower income rural people have more sleep problems than
hard driving urban nites. Yeah, this is that counter into it. Yeah,
I agree, But that's the dark of the country night.
You got the crickets at chirp and you just had
you know, you got flapjacks.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
What's those John Denver song? I don't know what is
the John Denver song?
Speaker 6 (23:01):
You know with the the thank God I'm a country boy. Oh,
I got me and my pipe. I got me Old Phil.
When the sun's coming up, I got cakes on the griddle.
Sound not fall asleep with the lifestyle.
Speaker 9 (23:11):
I wonder if they have more trouble falling asleep because
they're not as busy throughout the day. Maybe like the
slower lifestyle, they're not so go, go go.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
I don't know, well, I don't know. I have no
idea what that is.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
But then they're the they're the uh statistics on staying asleep,
which is a whole nother thing too, which I and
I know lots of people have you fall asleep, but
then you wake up at one of them morning or
do in the morning for some unknown reason, and you
lay there for a while, which I hate.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
I just hate that. Phelly, It's just the worst.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
Uh. And then you know, you keep looking at the
clock and it gets closer to when you got to
get up, and you're still tired.
Speaker 7 (23:45):
I hate it. But breaking it.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
Down again, so education, income goes down, the likelihood that
you're not gonna be able to sleep goes up. A
greater percentage of white adults had trouble staying asleep every
day in the last month, then Hispanic, Black, or Asian.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Any idea why that is? My white guilt keeps me up?
Speaker 6 (24:06):
I know, yep, yes, yeah, Robin DiAngelo really talks some
sense to me, and now I can't go to sleep
at night knowing that my ancestors one hundred and seventy
five years ago did bad stuff.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
The crowd that has the least trouble, it would look
like from the statistics, is urban educated Asian people. Almost
nobody has trouble sleeping, getting to sleep or staying asleep.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Wow, why that is? I have no idea. Tiger moms
their heads hit the pillow and they're out.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
Yeah, if you have any guess as to why that
is with the.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Because in my mind, you go up in income and.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
Education and people are like, go go drinking coffee, high pressure.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
But that's not doesn't fit in with the statistics.
Speaker 6 (24:51):
Okay, here's your hillbilly elegy analysis. We are heavily weighted
in semi ru to rural America with the former manufacturing
job on disability, drinking too much, taking drugs, smoking cigarettes.
Crowd and their lifestyles just aren't conducive to get in sleep.
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They're obese, they don't get enough exercise.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
That is weighted.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
The statistic is that the typical rural lifestyle at this point,
that's not mean to experience.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
But is that overwhelmed the statistics.
Speaker 6 (25:29):
Now, well, yeah, that's I chose my words carefully as always.
I think that has weighted those statistics in that direction.
I don't know if it's typical or not, but there
are a hell of a lot of people who do
live like that.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
If you have less than a high school diploma, one
in six haven't been able to get to sleep most
days in the last thirty days.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
So education going down? Is that the stress of how
do I make a living?
Speaker 5 (25:58):
Or do you think that's because we've always like the
statistic to make this point of what is the statistic
we like two.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Out of three? That's my favorite. People who.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
People who divorce, who get divorced are more likely to smoke,
or it's the other way around. People who smoke are
more likely to get divorced. Smoking doesn't cause divorce or
vice versa, but there's a lifestyle that goes with smoking generally,
and so.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
That way you have landing at life.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
So what I'm wondering about the uh, the less than
a high school diploma, are you more likely to like
drink red bulls until ten o'clock at night and then
try to get to sleep.
Speaker 7 (26:38):
Then if you have a college education.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
I don't know that. Yeah, that's I think.
Speaker 6 (26:44):
Yeah, you've led us to the promised Land, and well done,
I say, I think if you looked at a list
of say four or five.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Or six I don't study this stuff.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
I don't know quote unquote sleep disruptive habits or activities.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
I think they would be more heavily on the lower
income end. But I don't know.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
Scratchers. The scratchers keep you awake trying to figure out
if you have matched three numbers. Don't know, bondo on
your car. I don't know. I don't know if you've
got any idea why as education goes down, sleep problems
go up. Now I am a college graduate in a
suburban area.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
I shouldn't be having to I don't know what the problem.
I do drink Red Bull all day long. No, I
actually can't drink that stuff. I don't know how anybody does.
My son and all his friends do.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
They love it, and it's horrible. It's horrible. I limit
him with disgusting.
Speaker 5 (27:40):
But and I don't I don't know. I might actually
have to see a doctor about this. At this point,
it's become a crisis. It's a crisis in my life,
and I dread over the last several weeks, I dread going.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
To bed even though I'm exhausted, just oh god, I
can't just lay there. And then of course that adds
to it.
Speaker 5 (27:56):
It's like when you're worried about if you're worried about
your blood pressure blood pressure checked?
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Oh, tell me about it? Yeah, no kidding. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
Somebody suggested the three ms magnesium, melatonin, and masturbation.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Oh boy, wow, night after night to get and stay asleep. Exercise,
physical exercise. Clearly, I get, I get exercise.
Speaker 7 (28:20):
I'm not doing anything different. That's what's crazy.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
None, no changes in my life, just all of a sudden,
can't sleep at all, like hardly age man age.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
I wonder if the bang bangs are getting to you? Right? Yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (28:32):
The double meal eating For those not familiar with the term.
Speaker 9 (28:36):
I don't sleep great when I eat like crap sometimes,
so maybe I don't know.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Stop going to Wienersnitzel. He does eat like a bear.
Speaker 6 (28:45):
Having discovered an unlocked door to Lake Tahoe cabin.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
What did I have for dinner last night? Let's just
use like a random meal like last night. This is
science last night for dinner, quarter pounder with cheese and
a mcflury. So there's nothing to Katie's theory whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Clearly, I'm just making it up.
Speaker 7 (29:05):
Oh my god, who eats like that?
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Jack, Armstrong and Joe, The Armstrong and Getty Show, The
Armstrong and Getdy Show.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
This is pleasant and delightful.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
A bread making craze has begun in my extended family.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
Oh cool, Yeah, I remember during the pandemic when people
started doing that, and so yeah, oddly.
Speaker 6 (29:36):
Enough, it began with a relative who has some sensory issues. Jack,
something you know about. I'm going to keep things vague
to protect the innocent, but say it was my uncle Morty,
and we would make reference to Morty bread and how
good it was, and Morty when he would come for
a visit would always leave a loaf. And when I
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was through with Morty bread, I was very, very sad
because it was so good.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Before I leave work today, oh god, Jesus boy, you
know Jack, you know what Katie? I just do you
want to go off and do our own thing? Could we?
Speaker 7 (30:12):
Would you take?
Speaker 3 (30:13):
We wouldn't ever. Yeah, Michael, you're higher and here you
can watch Jack.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
We're out of here, you can you guess it is
going to be like and this, this is this happened
to me at least once in my youth. It was
explained to me, Hey, the band just got a break up.
We just we can't do this and it's too much
trouble to do that. And so we're breaking up. And
then a week later here, yeah, they're playing he just
got a different dude playing your instrument.
Speaker 7 (30:35):
Oh my god.
Speaker 6 (30:38):
Yeah, wow, So that's what we're doing to Jack right now. Yeah,
we I'm really not gonna do it radio anymore.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
That's like the they break up with you because I
just I just don't think I should be in a
relationship right now. And then you see him walking down
the street holding hands with somebody next weekend.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Okay, well I'm going into bread making. You guys have fun.
Speaker 7 (30:55):
Okay, the bread making, I am.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
That's something I would like to actually learn how to
do one because I love homemade bread and it just
seems like could be a cool craft.
Speaker 6 (31:04):
And I pronounced, having enjoyed some Morti bread and then
switched back to the regular stuff.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Oh my god, it's just so much better.
Speaker 6 (31:12):
And so Judy got a new mixer because our old
mixer's motor was kind of funky. And so now she's
got this big, like industry looking mixer. And she made
a couple of loafs of what's known as the Morty bread.
And my lost student daughter made herself some bread, although
one of her two cats stepped on the bread as
it was proofing, which I guess means rising or something. Yeah,
(31:35):
and so one of the loaves is robust and very
healthy looking, and the other loaf is really just excuse me.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Loaf, because I can't ruined it. Damn cats.
Speaker 5 (31:44):
The cat stepped on the bread. But you're gonna go
ahead and make it anyway, doesn't that mean?
Speaker 3 (31:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (31:50):
Yeah, I mean you put it in the oven at
three hundred and fifty degrees for a half an hour
or whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
It's fine. I don't know that I want letter box bread. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (31:57):
This tastes a little like whatever a cat walks through. Well, now,
I will tell you this.
Speaker 6 (32:02):
Having baby sat my daughter's cats for three weeks over Christmas,
she does occasionally get ready to bleeper. She does occasionally
refer to their mittens because they you know, they pooh out,
they poo in the box, then they walk out of
the box.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
Sure, that's see, that's not a tasty term.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
I don't like.
Speaker 6 (32:27):
They dip their paws and some paus and some sort
of disinfectant on their way out. Must clean the paws
after one poos. You know, No, they don't do that.
That's a great term. It is, and discuss we've got cats.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
And Michael, we're going to use that term patting around
mittens all over your house.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
I'm going to start calling people mittens. This is great.
Oh my goodness, this is many charming folks. I apologize.
I work at this guy and working with told me
the other.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
Day, but a bunch of mittens around here?
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Why do I put up with it?
Speaker 2 (33:03):
I know?
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Anyway? Where was I? Oh?
Speaker 6 (33:06):
I was going to talk about the various things that
are so far superior in their homemade version, right, but
we've kind of drifted so far away from it.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Like I brewed beer for a while. My brother brewis
beer and it's so good.
Speaker 6 (33:23):
He's actually got the cooler with two taps, and anytime
we visit his house he has home brewed beer in
kegs on tap.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Wow, icy cold on his patio. It's ridiculous. Oh, it's so.
Speaker 6 (33:37):
Although if I lived like that, I would be a
flaming alcoholic in three hundred and seventy five pounds. What
if there's a downside, But I'd be happy, and I
wouldn't be thinking about my problems, and people would be
more interesting.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
But bread might be at the top of the list.
Beer is close.
Speaker 6 (33:53):
I say cookies, and I'm a bit of a purist,
maybe a bit of a pain in the ass. I
know that's hard to imagine. Uh, I will not eat
store bought cookies. I just I won't because the calories
and the taste. No.
Speaker 9 (34:08):
Yeah, oh those cookies that I sent you guys, the
picture of of her break that I made.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Oh, they were so homemade. Is it's it's it's just
it's like sex, It's so good.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
I grew up in Wisconsin with a lot of homemade butter,
and homemade butter is just so much better than what
he did in the store. It's like a different thing
you each, brother, I wouldn't know if you put homemade,
and I had forgotten how good it was. So this
field trip my son went on to a couple of
years ago, they churned buttered. They I spent more time
churning than the kids did. But as I was one
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of the chaperones. But I churned up the exactly their
weedy little arms. I turned up the butter, and I'd
forgotten how good it is. You put homemade butter on
homemade bread and you have a flip and treat right there.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
That sounds wonderful. I'm guessing.
Speaker 9 (34:56):
Oh no, I'm just I'm in the process of trying
to make sour doughver because that's my favorite, oh of life,
and I haven't.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
I haven't gotten it down yet because it's complicated.
Speaker 6 (35:05):
But we missed the whole getting a starter going during
COVID thing.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
I wish we had.
Speaker 6 (35:11):
But yeah, Jack, I'm sure there are semi overpriced like
electric butter turns you can get from you know, sharper
imature whatever.
Speaker 5 (35:20):
We did it the old timey away with a look
like the thing you've seen in old timey movies with
a stick in a cylinder with a hole on the top.
It kind of looks a little sexual. But I mean,
you're you're doing this thing.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
Speaker 7 (35:36):
But yeah, homemade butter, that's what you got to add.
You have homemade bread with homemade butter.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Oh wow, I'm looking at how to make homemade butter.
It doesn't look that difficult. It's not hard at all.
I'm going to try it today. Do it, yeah, and
then report back. Oh so good.
Speaker 5 (35:51):
Get me a tub, not that sort of stuff to
get and sell over there at the store.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Oh, I know it, I know it. The Armstrong and Gettys.
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