April 15, 2025 • 21 mins
Today after the show, we laughed our ass off and you will too. This is AFTERWORDS featuring special guest BRETT BARTHOLOMEW.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This or Afterwards podcast, and we have in the studio
a guest and a friend of mine, Brett Bartholow Muleuel
mule bar follow me follow the annunciation there, and there's
a there's a reason he's in this studio for this,
for today, for this podcast. But now it's things have
changed a little bit, am I right?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
I mean, yeah, we don't want to jinx it.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Yeah, let's not jax it, but because uh, but let's
get a little background. Let's get into you who you
are and what you do for live and how we met.
Remember when I used to go to Exos all the time. Yeah, yeah,
and I met Brett at Exos. He was like, were
you a trainer there?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
You were a strength coach?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Yeah, a strength coach. And he has worked with massive celebrities,
massive athletes.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Strong athletes.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
It's funny because you remember when I was going there,
I didn't know. I mean, I feel like I know
more about sports now than I ever have in my
entire life. By at the time, I didn't know anything.
And I remember working out with Now when I look back,
I was working out with like Odell Beckham, yea incognito
you were.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Working out with I mean in some cases professionals and
olympians across twenty three sports, right.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
And I had no idea of anything going on, which
is funny because I'm still friend with a couple of
people that from that time.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah, I would imagine you were like athletes thrive. I
don't know what I can and can't say on this podcast,
Like you can talk shit, and that's part of the job, right,
being able to coach. This isn't like personal training where
you're like, hey, I'm Todd, let's get your six pack right, right,
Like these guys, you have to be able to get
on their level. And a lot of them, you know,
are used to being traded from team to team to team.
They're treated like assets, and so they want to know like,
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can you get to know me on more than just
a training level, and can you get in my head?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Right?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
And you do that?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Well, oh I do that? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
You could bullshit with them?
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Oh yeah, yeah, well I remember what time. I don't
know if you told me this, because every time I
was working out, these guys said, ask me what what
position I played? I had no idea. Somebody said, I
don't know if you Brett said, you need to start
telling people, you're a long snapper, because long snappers are
in then FL for like twenty years. Eventually I'd Sarah
saying I was in a long snapper. They go, oh,
get what we really.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Wanted is for him to do a rich eyesand thing
where he could run the forty yard dash. Yeah, you know, like,
why don't you just suit up get it done. We
got him some like white cleats that were diamond and bezel,
and he said, I'm not doing it.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
And I was, really, here's the thing with Brett. I
remember like working out with you in time. You were
training me and you were telling me, you go, hey,
I have a decision to make. I got an opportunity
to go to the Dolphins. You said, right to be
their coach or to memory And you said, or I
can own a piece of a gym in l A.
And I said, I think you should own the piece
of gym in l A. Right, That's that was my opinion.
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Now since then he did go to l A and
he did own a piece of gym and the gym
that he owned, By the way, who are the people
that trained there?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Oh well, I mean a lot of the folks that
were originally at Exos came nearby. I met selvester Stallone
the Rock. Which is it weird that I was a
little bit happier to meet David Spade than maybe The Rock.
I mean, I grew up on Black Sheep, and.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
You knows from here too, is he? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Well, what the hell? Why isn't he here?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Probably he's got he's come. He's filming in a couple
of weeks, I think. But anyway, so since then, right
he Then you went to Atlanta, right, and you started
a thing there, the whole thing. Now you're back here.
But here's what's happened in his life. And he's written
books and stuff too, like or at least one book.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Right, yeah, my second one comes out next year.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Right, So this guy is like the shit, you know
what I'm saying. Very successful guy. He's making a great
relationship and all of a sudden with I don't know
how much you want to say, he's now divorced. Is
it official yet or no?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah? Well, I mean like finalizing, yeah, in the process. Yeah,
there's a lot of the amount of way somebody can
delay something like that is unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Not familiar what not familiar?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, but yes, like for all intents
and purposes divorced.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
So I think it was back in Christmas you shot
me a message going, hey man, you told me the
story and you said, can you help find me somebody?
And going back and forth going on. So finally you're
back in the studio. Here, you're here in the studio.
I was thought we'd help him find a woman because
he's a great How old of a guy are you?
I'm thirty nine, thirty nine, extremely successful, kids, very fun
one kid boy or girl boy? How old five? Okay, Oh,
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that's that's good. That's an asset for a young dating guy.
Do you have a puppy?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
No?
Speaker 1 (03:57):
But you have custody, right, yeah, I'm sorry you have custody.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yeah, well joint custody.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Oh I thought you had.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
No, in Arizona, essentially like for you to get soul custody,
like your partner needs to be basically like a drug addict,
abusive things like that because of the state of Arizona. And
rightfully so right like, I'm not here to bad talk
the mom or anything like that. She's a fine person,
just not a fit. But you have joint custody because
they want that's so huge. The child and their development
and all that.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
And so, by the way, with you back, do you
remember when I came in here one time and I said,
I have a theory on really good people. I said,
they're either Mormon.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Or from Nebraska.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Where are you from Nebraska? He was part of my equation,
A right from.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Omaha specially, Well, I think John Jay's got an Omaha
faked up Omaha Nebraska people.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
You were one of the people. I just realized, the
nicest people I ever met are from either Omaha, Nebraska,
from Nebraska, or they're Mormon.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Well, like we just grow up, like you filter out
all the craziness from every coast. Right, you have the
West Coast and their whole you know, neurosis. You have
the East Coast, and I can't. Like I always feel
like I'm having a heart attack if I go to
the East Coast, I have to go to New York
a lot for work, and then I've friten of South
and the South has its own thing. In the Midwest,
I mean, we get characterized as dopey people from a
flyover state. Some of us are.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Right, you know, I didn't work on a Din't you
move corn and stuff?
Speaker 2 (05:10):
No, we're the corn huskers.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
So it was going to bring you in there and
try to find a woman to go out a day with.
But what happened, Uh.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Well, I went on a date. Listen, there's about dating
was new to me in general after fifteen years. You
think people think like, oh, you get on the apps
and you do that. No, it's a ship show and
the chre like the gene pool needs chlorine. So I
went on on one date. I went on one date.
And I have many faults and I'm very aware of them.
I have just the right amount of self hate, you
know what I mean. So I but like, go on
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one date and she's laughing. She texts me afterwards, I like,
when are we gonna do it again? And she goes, well,
you made me laugh too much. That remind me of
my old fiance and gave me an existential crisis. Oh
my gosh, this is what I'm trying to get away from.
Like I'm looking for somebody that can go through conflict
and realize like that's life. You're gonna have arguments, You're
gonna do that. That doesn't mean like because we do
live in this society now where especially I think all
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the like pop psychology people on Instagram. It's very Oh
if it's hard, go eat, pray, love and find your
own thing.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Be a boss.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Yeah, be a boss bitch, do all these things, and
like you don't need a man. And it's like nobody
wants to seemingly like be in a traditional relationship anymore.
And then if you're a guy that does want somebody
with traditional values somehow, it's like, oh, no, you're trying
to make a servile woman. No I'm not.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
I just want you need to find a tread wife.
It's a whole trend online where like there's this there
is like a whole group of people who like enjoy
being a traditional wife who stays home and makes the need.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
To do that.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
But I'm telling you, but that's a trend.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
That's the thing, ye traditional.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
I just want somebody that like I cook, I clean,
I do all these things, you know what I mean.
And I'm find doing that. I don't look at like
gender rules like if you and I are me read
like I'm doing that stuff because I respect you, I
like you, and shit needs to give.
Speaker 6 (07:03):
That's nice of you because i'd be like take out
the trash man.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
But like I don't need anybody to churn butter. You
want to have to be in a relationship and not
feel like that's so anyway. There's a million stories like that.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
It's like, how many.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Days have begun on? I went on like four or five, okay,
and each one ended like that.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
So well another one. I mean like half of them ghosts,
you know, and they're they're just like, oh, I got
the day in time wrong, and You're like, it's literally
right there, like accountabilities, this is not gonna work, you know.
Another one is like, within the first five minutes, she goes,
let me get something straight. I am not going to
change my hair color for you. I will not paint
my nails for you. I will not. I'm like, my
name's Brett, nice to meet you. Are you serious?
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Yes? I will not pay my nails.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Why not?
Speaker 5 (07:46):
I wonder like, what did they go through in their
previous relationships where they feel that that's a need right
up front?
Speaker 2 (07:51):
That's a perfect point, Kyle, and like are you supposed
to ask that? And so I'd be like, you have
to like establish I'm not your ex. I don't know
what youre through. And so the majority of them will
just spend the first ten to fifteen minutes, you know,
talking about their ex. Now, listen, I could do that too.
My ex filed for divorce on the day my book
manuscript was due to the publisher. I could sit here
and make a meal out of my trauma and like
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be like, but it's just like, no, we're here to
meet each other. What's your name? So yeah, it was
start there anyway, right, Yeah, it was like picking people
from an orchard of fuckery, you know, and you're just like,
can I just have a normal conversation for fifteen minutes
with somebody that isn't hell bent on whatever happened in
the past?
Speaker 1 (08:29):
So wait, were you on a bunch of apps or
I was on two?
Speaker 2 (08:32):
I did a bumble, which was a nightmare, you know,
because it was usually girls being like take me to
mccormicks or Dominic's and give me seafood towers and fly
over the world, and like they wanted you to sponsor them.
And so it was either a lot of people that
want to be sponsored, a lot of like duckface.
Speaker 6 (08:49):
You know, like like average Scott Steel babes, right.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Yeah, perfect, Yeah, kind of what's weird is I know
somebody just through my wife, I know so many single
women who say that the guy pools rub.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Oh, I have no doubt.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
I mean, there's already.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
So bad dating in general is rough.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
There was ur so here were the archetypes that I found,
just because I don't want to waste your time. The
archetypes were like girls that want to be sponsored, you know,
very clearly. Then there was they had women with like
three kids or four kids, and you're like that, you know,
that's a lot, you know, to each their own. And
if love's love cool, but like integrating that's yeah, that's
a lot. And then if they didn't have that, then
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they like hike every day and they have four dogs
or three cats. So it's like you're either the animal shelter,
you know, you're like I have like twenty kids, or
I want you to sponsor me. And then somewhere in
the middle was like I need a guy. One of
my favorites that I met. I think she like she
very much wanted somebody that was just going to coach
the church softball league, do Bible study, you know, twice
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a week.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
That sounds like the best choice so far, though, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
I mean, out of all those, that's fine. I'm just
a little bit more of it like an antihero, like
I believe in God. You know, I've tu you know,
things like that. But like, I'm not the guy that's
gonna wear flame. I'll mow the lawn twice a week,
do house projects as a love language. Right, I'm a
guy that's going to be romantic do this. But also no,
like you know, periodically you might want to be pinned
up against a car and made out with and so
you just have to find a balance of like traditional
(10:12):
values but people that have a little bit of an edge.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Okay, so you finally met somebody, yeah on an app?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yeah, yeah, I went on a date that wasn't a
now I mostly then she didn't show up the first time,
so wait, no, no, no, and then she ghosted me
on a FaceTime too. But I gave her a third
chance and she got her shit together and we figured
it out.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
So you've been on what? Okay, So how many times
have you seen her in person?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I just you know what, John jam glad you asked.
I was at her house till one am last night,
meeting her friends and going through the whole nicole Olympics.
You know, I've now been put through like a lot
of one date yeah, we went on one date and
so now and then I went to her house. That
was another date. But we talked on the phone. We've
done all the little you know.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
You were hesitant coming in here today about that because
you thought maybe she was gonna get upset.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Listen, I'm a pragmatist, like have any of you had dating?
I mean, how long I know you've been married a
fairly long time, right, how long you have you or
what's your situation.
Speaker 6 (11:02):
I've been with my boyfriend for almost five years, okay.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
So whether you've been married for a very long time, Rich,
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
You're married, divorced and now remarried two years?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Okay. Would it surprise either of you like to know
that you could hit it off with somebody and then
all of a sudden just ghosts or they change up
or what did you hear that?
Speaker 3 (11:19):
I would be surprised if you hit it off, because
I'm thinking of if you hit it off and things
went well and they ghosted you, I would be surprised.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
So I'm glad you said that because one of the
cool Yeah, Nicol, one of the other things that I
did is I went on a date with somebody and
we had, you know, a connection, didn't quite hit it
off like me and Nicole, but definitely had a connection
something that you go back and feel like that wasn't
a waste of the last two hours of my day
for and that was, well, I'm starting to feel things again,
and I'm not sure I'm healed enough for that because
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I'm not quite over. You get compared to the X
a lot, and so in that case, it was like, Okay,
so I made you, we liked each other, and now
you don't want to do this.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
I think there's a lot of that out there.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yeah, that's emotional immaturity, right, because our culture breeds it.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
It's like, all right, wouldn't you rather know that than
someone get in a relationship with you? I just have
that in the back of their head, and then you know.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Yeah, I think they're just trying to be honest.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Yeah I'm not I'm not giving I'm not saying they're
a bad person. I'm just telling you how that date went,
you know. And so it would not surprise me no
matter how much I hit it off or don't hit
it off with somebody. Remember I was married ten years,
you know, I was with my ex wife for fifteen
years in total, So all this is new and like
just not commitments to mean the same thing to everybody. Yeah,
would be Did you propose in Australia on the Sydney
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Harbor Bridge? Yeah, and then married on a dormant.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
I came supposed I was you said you your basseroob,
I did invite you.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
I have that invite John there and they asked about
you and we could call it.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Vegas? Was it?
Speaker 2 (12:43):
No? No, no, Vega. I go to Vegas.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
I really wanted to be there. So you were at
her house till one o'clock in the morning. Did you
go home one o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
I went home for being like like forensically clear. I
left her house at twelve thirty two am.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Knowing that you were going to be here this morning.
Did you work out this morning?
Speaker 2 (13:07):
I did not. I'm not a morning workout guy. I
work out sometime between ten and three.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Hey on the phone right now? Is the girl? Nicole?
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Oh? Perfect?
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Okay? Hey Nicole?
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Hey?
Speaker 5 (13:17):
Hello?
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Are you tired?
Speaker 7 (13:20):
Am I tired?
Speaker 2 (13:21):
No?
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Are you tired?
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Tired? Are you tired?
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Hold on second, right? Are you tired? Were you up leaves?
Speaker 2 (13:28):
No?
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Oh? Because Brett says he left your house at one
o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 7 (13:33):
Oh yeah, but I'm good.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Okay, So he's in here talking about you. We were
going to try to find him a girl, but he
says he found a girl.
Speaker 7 (13:42):
Yeah, he sure did.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Well do you How do you feel about him dating
anybody else? Would you prefer he not to?
Speaker 7 (13:48):
I mean I'd prefer him not too absolutely, but you know,
of course he can do whatever he'd like. But I'm
happy that you guys are calling me and not other women.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
You're not going to disappear on him?
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Isn't that wild? So quick? So soon? You know what
I mean that you guys feel, which I think is great. Right, No,
I guess you.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
Feel really no point of dragging it out if you don't.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
What do you do for a living, Nicole?
Speaker 7 (14:10):
Absolutely? I am a senior manager for the Arizona Humane Society.
I am also an emergency veterinary technician.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Wow, you're awesome.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
How many dogs do you have?
Speaker 7 (14:22):
I only have one. Her name is Juniper. Who's the best?
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Okay? That's good. That checks a lot of boxes right there.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Yeah, you still do the love pay I think I
think dog people are great people. So and you guys
met Do you guys meet it on an app?
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:35):
On which app?
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Hinge?
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Hinge?
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Okay, good, all right, she calls it cringe.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
She's probably right.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
So does that mean you messaged her first or she
messaged you firstus one of those?
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Yeah? I think I messaged her first, right, So.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
You're all in? Do you guys already say I love you?
Speaker 2 (14:47):
No?
Speaker 5 (14:50):
Before I even had time to spread I.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Told you last night, I already got like got put
through the ringer, like she says, she goes, you want
to come over? Next thing? I know, like assembly line
of her friends over.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
The real oh's highly important.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
Yea, it is a really important step. That's like that
sex Life of College Girls episode where they like interview
all the boyfriends and put them through the test.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Yep, So, Nicole, what's the take of your friends? What
do they think of Bread?
Speaker 7 (15:10):
No, they think he's amazing. I mean he obviously here's
a sitting with him, so you can tell he's very
much the exact same way like in person of my
friends just loved him and yeah, I mean the connection
is undeniable. So I'm just really happy.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
That's awesome. Well, I could say this, I've known bread
a while, and I've always thought you were a solid
human being, like I was looking like if I was
going to try to set like, let's say, my I
would set you up with my sister, like you know,
and brothers are protective. I try not to talk about her,
but like, no, I do have a sister, but I
would be like, I would be like, this is the
kind of guy you want to go out with your sisters?
She would tell her to leave her marriage and go
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out with I. Fact, that's what I want to happen
right now. Sorry, ridiculous shape. But you gotta watch out
those backsurgeries. Bread.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yeah, listen, why are you trying to you know, she
does no bread? No, she knows. Yeah, back surgery. Look
out for that. Tell you there's something I wanted to
admit I had.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
How old of a person? Can we ask how old
Nicole is? She younger? Older? You? Same age?
Speaker 2 (16:13):
I believe you're thirty eight? Yeah, yees, yeah you're younger.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Have you been married before, Nicole?
Speaker 7 (16:20):
I have yes, I was married about six years ago.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Okay. And do you have kids?
Speaker 7 (16:24):
Well, I do have two daughters and yeah, two daughters.
I was married and I'm nice and single.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Are you okay? Brett wanted me to ask you if
you would sever your parental rights?
Speaker 2 (16:38):
What did.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
What he does?
Speaker 1 (16:47):
I would like to adopt your daughter.
Speaker 7 (16:49):
It's just one of John's things.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Yeah, anyway, I'm really happy for you guys. Really, that's cool.
It'sn't that funny that you were gonna come in he
already find Like he literally was texting me yesterday going,
hey man, I was going to come in to help
find someone, but I think I found someone.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Well, I was freaked out. I told her, I go,
what do I do? You know? Because I'm like, I
mean it is we talked about this, so I'm like,
there is that ambiguity if you don't want to ruin
an opportunity like this, right if somebody is going to
flake out on you or you know, ghost or what
have you. And she's like, no, I'm ten toes down.
Let's se where this goes. But I'll be a good sport.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Does Nicole have nice feet? You know what?
Speaker 2 (17:21):
I haven't seen that. And it's funny you mentioned that
because we talked about the whole foot thing up here,
because we know you guys have an empire. I did
let her know. I did let her know. And Nicole
tell me if you think I'm lying here, I said,
it is a red flag with me if you have
like crazy troll feet, you know, because I have a theory.
You know, people like women that you know, don't take
care of that area usually you know there could be
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hygiene things other places, and so I won't do like,
I'm not on your level with this stuff. But like,
nice feet do matter. Like I'm Nelly from the early
two thousands. You know you have corn rows and pedicure toes.
It does matter, you know, it does matter. Speaking of
she has a fetish, tell them what your fetish. She
wasn't a coole about the Nelly thing, you know, don't lie.
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Don't get shy now.
Speaker 7 (18:04):
Nelly quotes of course, No, no, I don't have a
fetus with Nelly. But I did love Nellie when I
was younger, specifically in the band aid era.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
She wants me to wear a band aid all the time.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
I agree. I wanted to be Nelly with the band
aid for Halloween.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
When she still put band aids on toes.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
So I the real question is if I wear the
band aid, like does that give me extra points? Like
what is the band aid?
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (18:28):
I mean like, yeah, maybe I do that. It's not
quite does it have the same effect.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
As like, if you're ten toes down, now you better
get that band aid.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Okay, so your book, the one, your first book, Art
of Coaching, Conscious Coaching, Conscious Coaching. Sorry, come on, but
you coach, you coach coaches.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Well, now it's broader. What the hell candy did I
put in my mouth? This thing is like, I know,
Peyton put it there. I love it. I like all over. Yeah,
all of our work now is broader. So military, uh,
first responders all that. How to deal with dickheads? Right,
how to deal with the dark side of leadership. We
(19:07):
all meet manipulative people, we all have our own inner darkness.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
That's that's important.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
We got to have you back and talk about that
my other podcast on John Jay's pod.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
You have another podcast.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
I do a video.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
What came on my podcast?
Speaker 1 (19:19):
It was great.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Yeah, everything was like, this guy's in the this guy's
in the hot tub at three am contemplating life. You're like,
I go on the hot tub. You know, you have
like a whole routine that was like five years ago routine.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
I don't know as much do what he does. I
watch TV and I do my makeup.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
That's your prep. I'm Nicole. I know you got to
go back and save dogs. Thank you so much for
doing what you're doing with the Made Society.
Speaker 7 (19:40):
Hey absolutely, thank you for having me on and Bright.
I'm looking forward to seeing you more and getting to
know you more. So thank you.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
I appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Safe who saved Who? Thanks? All right? Okay, so would
your next book come out?
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Next book comes out summer of next year. Publisher determines
all that, so they take it. I just finished the manuscript.
They take it for nine months. They do all their
legal blah blah blah blah blah, make sure everything, and
then you come back.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
We'll promote it. And I want to do a podcast
on my other podcast anytime. Okay, good, Yeah, because I
will all be there. I really like your vocabulary. They
have a good vocabulary.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
Yeah, you have to keep Glen what happens?
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Yeah, that'd be fun.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Did you tell did you tell Kyle what you told
me about the compound we're building in the back of
my house by the way?
Speaker 1 (20:19):
No?
Speaker 2 (20:19):
What?
Speaker 1 (20:20):
All right?
Speaker 2 (20:20):
So like context brief context, Like I travel and I'm
seeing them out for work and I'm trying to cut
down on that so I can be at home for
my kid. Whatever. So we're putting up a two thousand
square foot kind of metal building where we can host events.
We have a small gem meeting space. It's we're all
doing my podcast all that. You know what he says
to me, that's a great place for foot picks.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
Oh god, I'm sure that.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
He's like everywhere he goes. Are you gonna have like
a glass ceiling where they can stand above you can
do from the.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
He's got a secret.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
I told you. I don't mind them.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Hey man, thanks for popping it.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Thank you for having me. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
So any informa you want to give out and listening
to the podcast, so they want to follow you get
your books.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Easiest way to do it go to artocoaching dot com.
Or you can find my book Conscious Coaching on Amazon,
but go to Artofcoaching dot com. That's the company. Yeah,
you're right about everything.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
All right, thanks Brett. All right, that's our Afterwards podcast.
John d Rich
This or Afterwards podcast, and we have in the studio
a guest and a friend of mine, Brett Bartholow Muleuel
mule bar follow me follow the annunciation there, and there's
a there's a reason he's in this studio for this,
for today, for this podcast. But now it's things have
changed a little bit, am I right?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
I mean, yeah, we don't want to jinx it.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Yeah, let's not jax it, but because uh, but let's
get a little background. Let's get into you who you
are and what you do for live and how we met.
Remember when I used to go to Exos all the time. Yeah, yeah,
and I met Brett at Exos. He was like, were
you a trainer there?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
You were a strength coach?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Yeah, a strength coach. And he has worked with massive celebrities,
massive athletes.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Strong athletes.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
It's funny because you remember when I was going there,
I didn't know. I mean, I feel like I know
more about sports now than I ever have in my
entire life. By at the time, I didn't know anything.
And I remember working out with Now when I look back,
I was working out with like Odell Beckham, yea incognito
you were.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Working out with I mean in some cases professionals and
olympians across twenty three sports, right.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
And I had no idea of anything going on, which
is funny because I'm still friend with a couple of
people that from that time.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah, I would imagine you were like athletes thrive. I
don't know what I can and can't say on this podcast,
Like you can talk shit, and that's part of the job, right,
being able to coach. This isn't like personal training where
you're like, hey, I'm Todd, let's get your six pack right, right,
Like these guys, you have to be able to get
on their level. And a lot of them, you know,
are used to being traded from team to team to team.
They're treated like assets, and so they want to know like,
(01:22):
can you get to know me on more than just
a training level, and can you get in my head?
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Right?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
And you do that?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Well, oh I do that? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
You could bullshit with them?
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Oh yeah, yeah, well I remember what time. I don't
know if you told me this, because every time I
was working out, these guys said, ask me what what
position I played? I had no idea. Somebody said, I
don't know if you Brett said, you need to start
telling people, you're a long snapper, because long snappers are
in then FL for like twenty years. Eventually I'd Sarah
saying I was in a long snapper. They go, oh,
get what we really.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Wanted is for him to do a rich eyesand thing
where he could run the forty yard dash. Yeah, you know, like,
why don't you just suit up get it done. We
got him some like white cleats that were diamond and bezel,
and he said, I'm not doing it.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
And I was, really, here's the thing with Brett. I
remember like working out with you in time. You were
training me and you were telling me, you go, hey,
I have a decision to make. I got an opportunity
to go to the Dolphins. You said, right to be
their coach or to memory And you said, or I
can own a piece of a gym in l A.
And I said, I think you should own the piece
of gym in l A. Right, That's that was my opinion.
(02:18):
Now since then he did go to l A and
he did own a piece of gym and the gym
that he owned, By the way, who are the people
that trained there?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Oh well, I mean a lot of the folks that
were originally at Exos came nearby. I met selvester Stallone
the Rock. Which is it weird that I was a
little bit happier to meet David Spade than maybe The Rock.
I mean, I grew up on Black Sheep, and.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
You knows from here too, is he? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Well, what the hell? Why isn't he here?
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Probably he's got he's come. He's filming in a couple
of weeks, I think. But anyway, so since then, right
he Then you went to Atlanta, right, and you started
a thing there, the whole thing. Now you're back here.
But here's what's happened in his life. And he's written
books and stuff too, like or at least one book.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Right, yeah, my second one comes out next year.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Right, So this guy is like the shit, you know
what I'm saying. Very successful guy. He's making a great
relationship and all of a sudden with I don't know
how much you want to say, he's now divorced. Is
it official yet or no?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah? Well, I mean like finalizing, yeah, in the process. Yeah,
there's a lot of the amount of way somebody can
delay something like that is unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Not familiar what not familiar?
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, but yes, like for all intents
and purposes divorced.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
So I think it was back in Christmas you shot
me a message going, hey man, you told me the
story and you said, can you help find me somebody?
And going back and forth going on. So finally you're
back in the studio. Here, you're here in the studio.
I was thought we'd help him find a woman because
he's a great How old of a guy are you?
I'm thirty nine, thirty nine, extremely successful, kids, very fun
one kid boy or girl boy? How old five? Okay, Oh,
(03:52):
that's that's good. That's an asset for a young dating guy.
Do you have a puppy?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
No?
Speaker 1 (03:57):
But you have custody, right, yeah, I'm sorry you have custody.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yeah, well joint custody.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Oh I thought you had.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
No, in Arizona, essentially like for you to get soul custody,
like your partner needs to be basically like a drug addict,
abusive things like that because of the state of Arizona. And
rightfully so right like, I'm not here to bad talk
the mom or anything like that. She's a fine person,
just not a fit. But you have joint custody because
they want that's so huge. The child and their development
and all that.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
And so, by the way, with you back, do you
remember when I came in here one time and I said,
I have a theory on really good people. I said,
they're either Mormon.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Or from Nebraska.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Where are you from Nebraska? He was part of my equation,
A right from.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Omaha specially, Well, I think John Jay's got an Omaha
faked up Omaha Nebraska people.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
You were one of the people. I just realized, the
nicest people I ever met are from either Omaha, Nebraska,
from Nebraska, or they're Mormon.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Well, like we just grow up, like you filter out
all the craziness from every coast. Right, you have the
West Coast and their whole you know, neurosis. You have
the East Coast, and I can't. Like I always feel
like I'm having a heart attack if I go to
the East Coast, I have to go to New York
a lot for work, and then I've friten of South
and the South has its own thing. In the Midwest,
I mean, we get characterized as dopey people from a
flyover state. Some of us are.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Right, you know, I didn't work on a Din't you
move corn and stuff?
Speaker 2 (05:10):
No, we're the corn huskers.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
So it was going to bring you in there and
try to find a woman to go out a day with.
But what happened, Uh.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Well, I went on a date. Listen, there's about dating
was new to me in general after fifteen years. You
think people think like, oh, you get on the apps
and you do that. No, it's a ship show and
the chre like the gene pool needs chlorine. So I
went on on one date. I went on one date.
And I have many faults and I'm very aware of them.
I have just the right amount of self hate, you
know what I mean. So I but like, go on
(05:49):
one date and she's laughing. She texts me afterwards, I like,
when are we gonna do it again? And she goes, well,
you made me laugh too much. That remind me of
my old fiance and gave me an existential crisis. Oh
my gosh, this is what I'm trying to get away from.
Like I'm looking for somebody that can go through conflict
and realize like that's life. You're gonna have arguments, You're
gonna do that. That doesn't mean like because we do
live in this society now where especially I think all
(06:11):
the like pop psychology people on Instagram. It's very Oh
if it's hard, go eat, pray, love and find your
own thing.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Be a boss.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Yeah, be a boss bitch, do all these things, and
like you don't need a man. And it's like nobody
wants to seemingly like be in a traditional relationship anymore.
And then if you're a guy that does want somebody
with traditional values somehow, it's like, oh, no, you're trying
to make a servile woman. No I'm not.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
I just want you need to find a tread wife.
It's a whole trend online where like there's this there
is like a whole group of people who like enjoy
being a traditional wife who stays home and makes the need.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
To do that.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
But I'm telling you, but that's a trend.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
That's the thing, ye traditional.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
I just want somebody that like I cook, I clean,
I do all these things, you know what I mean.
And I'm find doing that. I don't look at like
gender rules like if you and I are me read
like I'm doing that stuff because I respect you, I
like you, and shit needs to give.
Speaker 6 (07:03):
That's nice of you because i'd be like take out
the trash man.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
But like I don't need anybody to churn butter. You
want to have to be in a relationship and not
feel like that's so anyway. There's a million stories like that.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
It's like, how many.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Days have begun on? I went on like four or five, okay,
and each one ended like that.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
So well another one. I mean like half of them ghosts,
you know, and they're they're just like, oh, I got
the day in time wrong, and You're like, it's literally
right there, like accountabilities, this is not gonna work, you know.
Another one is like, within the first five minutes, she goes,
let me get something straight. I am not going to
change my hair color for you. I will not paint
my nails for you. I will not. I'm like, my
name's Brett, nice to meet you. Are you serious?
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Yes? I will not pay my nails.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Why not?
Speaker 5 (07:46):
I wonder like, what did they go through in their
previous relationships where they feel that that's a need right
up front?
Speaker 2 (07:51):
That's a perfect point, Kyle, and like are you supposed
to ask that? And so I'd be like, you have
to like establish I'm not your ex. I don't know
what youre through. And so the majority of them will
just spend the first ten to fifteen minutes, you know,
talking about their ex. Now, listen, I could do that too.
My ex filed for divorce on the day my book
manuscript was due to the publisher. I could sit here
and make a meal out of my trauma and like
(08:13):
be like, but it's just like, no, we're here to
meet each other. What's your name? So yeah, it was
start there anyway, right, Yeah, it was like picking people
from an orchard of fuckery, you know, and you're just like,
can I just have a normal conversation for fifteen minutes
with somebody that isn't hell bent on whatever happened in
the past?
Speaker 1 (08:29):
So wait, were you on a bunch of apps or
I was on two?
Speaker 2 (08:32):
I did a bumble, which was a nightmare, you know,
because it was usually girls being like take me to
mccormicks or Dominic's and give me seafood towers and fly
over the world, and like they wanted you to sponsor them.
And so it was either a lot of people that
want to be sponsored, a lot of like duckface.
Speaker 6 (08:49):
You know, like like average Scott Steel babes, right.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Yeah, perfect, Yeah, kind of what's weird is I know
somebody just through my wife, I know so many single
women who say that the guy pools rub.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Oh, I have no doubt.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
I mean, there's already.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
So bad dating in general is rough.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
There was ur so here were the archetypes that I found,
just because I don't want to waste your time. The
archetypes were like girls that want to be sponsored, you know,
very clearly. Then there was they had women with like
three kids or four kids, and you're like that, you know,
that's a lot, you know, to each their own. And
if love's love cool, but like integrating that's yeah, that's
a lot. And then if they didn't have that, then
(09:26):
they like hike every day and they have four dogs
or three cats. So it's like you're either the animal shelter,
you know, you're like I have like twenty kids, or
I want you to sponsor me. And then somewhere in
the middle was like I need a guy. One of
my favorites that I met. I think she like she
very much wanted somebody that was just going to coach
the church softball league, do Bible study, you know, twice
(09:48):
a week.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
That sounds like the best choice so far, though, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
I mean, out of all those, that's fine. I'm just
a little bit more of it like an antihero, like
I believe in God. You know, I've tu you know,
things like that. But like, I'm not the guy that's
gonna wear flame. I'll mow the lawn twice a week,
do house projects as a love language. Right, I'm a
guy that's going to be romantic do this. But also no,
like you know, periodically you might want to be pinned
up against a car and made out with and so
you just have to find a balance of like traditional
(10:12):
values but people that have a little bit of an edge.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Okay, so you finally met somebody, yeah on an app?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yeah, yeah, I went on a date that wasn't a
now I mostly then she didn't show up the first time,
so wait, no, no, no, and then she ghosted me
on a FaceTime too. But I gave her a third
chance and she got her shit together and we figured
it out.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
So you've been on what? Okay, So how many times
have you seen her in person?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I just you know what, John jam glad you asked.
I was at her house till one am last night,
meeting her friends and going through the whole nicole Olympics.
You know, I've now been put through like a lot
of one date yeah, we went on one date and
so now and then I went to her house. That
was another date. But we talked on the phone. We've
done all the little you know.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
You were hesitant coming in here today about that because
you thought maybe she was gonna get upset.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Listen, I'm a pragmatist, like have any of you had dating?
I mean, how long I know you've been married a
fairly long time, right, how long you have you or
what's your situation.
Speaker 6 (11:02):
I've been with my boyfriend for almost five years, okay.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
So whether you've been married for a very long time, Rich,
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
You're married, divorced and now remarried two years?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Okay. Would it surprise either of you like to know
that you could hit it off with somebody and then
all of a sudden just ghosts or they change up
or what did you hear that?
Speaker 3 (11:19):
I would be surprised if you hit it off, because
I'm thinking of if you hit it off and things
went well and they ghosted you, I would be surprised.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
So I'm glad you said that because one of the
cool Yeah, Nicol, one of the other things that I
did is I went on a date with somebody and
we had, you know, a connection, didn't quite hit it
off like me and Nicole, but definitely had a connection
something that you go back and feel like that wasn't
a waste of the last two hours of my day
for and that was, well, I'm starting to feel things again,
and I'm not sure I'm healed enough for that because
(11:46):
I'm not quite over. You get compared to the X
a lot, and so in that case, it was like, Okay,
so I made you, we liked each other, and now
you don't want to do this.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
I think there's a lot of that out there.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yeah, that's emotional immaturity, right, because our culture breeds it.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
It's like, all right, wouldn't you rather know that than
someone get in a relationship with you? I just have
that in the back of their head, and then you know.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Yeah, I think they're just trying to be honest.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Yeah I'm not I'm not giving I'm not saying they're
a bad person. I'm just telling you how that date went,
you know. And so it would not surprise me no
matter how much I hit it off or don't hit
it off with somebody. Remember I was married ten years,
you know, I was with my ex wife for fifteen
years in total, So all this is new and like
just not commitments to mean the same thing to everybody. Yeah,
would be Did you propose in Australia on the Sydney
(12:29):
Harbor Bridge? Yeah, and then married on a dormant.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
I came supposed I was you said you your basseroob,
I did invite you.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
I have that invite John there and they asked about
you and we could call it.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Vegas? Was it?
Speaker 2 (12:43):
No? No, no, Vega. I go to Vegas.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
I really wanted to be there. So you were at
her house till one o'clock in the morning. Did you
go home one o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
I went home for being like like forensically clear. I
left her house at twelve thirty two am.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Knowing that you were going to be here this morning.
Did you work out this morning?
Speaker 2 (13:07):
I did not. I'm not a morning workout guy. I
work out sometime between ten and three.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Hey on the phone right now? Is the girl? Nicole?
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Oh? Perfect?
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Okay? Hey Nicole?
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Hey?
Speaker 5 (13:17):
Hello?
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Are you tired?
Speaker 7 (13:20):
Am I tired?
Speaker 2 (13:21):
No?
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Are you tired?
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Tired? Are you tired?
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Hold on second, right? Are you tired? Were you up leaves?
Speaker 2 (13:28):
No?
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Oh? Because Brett says he left your house at one
o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 7 (13:33):
Oh yeah, but I'm good.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Okay, So he's in here talking about you. We were
going to try to find him a girl, but he
says he found a girl.
Speaker 7 (13:42):
Yeah, he sure did.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Well do you How do you feel about him dating
anybody else? Would you prefer he not to?
Speaker 7 (13:48):
I mean I'd prefer him not too absolutely, but you know,
of course he can do whatever he'd like. But I'm
happy that you guys are calling me and not other women.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
You're not going to disappear on him?
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Isn't that wild? So quick? So soon? You know what
I mean that you guys feel, which I think is great. Right, No,
I guess you.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
Feel really no point of dragging it out if you don't.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
What do you do for a living, Nicole?
Speaker 7 (14:10):
Absolutely? I am a senior manager for the Arizona Humane Society.
I am also an emergency veterinary technician.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Wow, you're awesome.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
How many dogs do you have?
Speaker 7 (14:22):
I only have one. Her name is Juniper. Who's the best?
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Okay? That's good. That checks a lot of boxes right there.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Yeah, you still do the love pay I think I
think dog people are great people. So and you guys
met Do you guys meet it on an app?
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:35):
On which app?
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Hinge?
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Hinge?
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Okay, good, all right, she calls it cringe.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
She's probably right.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
So does that mean you messaged her first or she
messaged you firstus one of those?
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Yeah? I think I messaged her first, right, So.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
You're all in? Do you guys already say I love you?
Speaker 2 (14:47):
No?
Speaker 5 (14:50):
Before I even had time to spread I.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Told you last night, I already got like got put
through the ringer, like she says, she goes, you want
to come over? Next thing? I know, like assembly line
of her friends over.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
The real oh's highly important.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
Yea, it is a really important step. That's like that
sex Life of College Girls episode where they like interview
all the boyfriends and put them through the test.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Yep, So, Nicole, what's the take of your friends? What
do they think of Bread?
Speaker 7 (15:10):
No, they think he's amazing. I mean he obviously here's
a sitting with him, so you can tell he's very
much the exact same way like in person of my
friends just loved him and yeah, I mean the connection
is undeniable. So I'm just really happy.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
That's awesome. Well, I could say this, I've known bread
a while, and I've always thought you were a solid
human being, like I was looking like if I was
going to try to set like, let's say, my I
would set you up with my sister, like you know,
and brothers are protective. I try not to talk about her,
but like, no, I do have a sister, but I
would be like, I would be like, this is the
kind of guy you want to go out with your sisters?
She would tell her to leave her marriage and go
(15:45):
out with I. Fact, that's what I want to happen
right now. Sorry, ridiculous shape. But you gotta watch out
those backsurgeries. Bread.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yeah, listen, why are you trying to you know, she
does no bread? No, she knows. Yeah, back surgery. Look
out for that. Tell you there's something I wanted to
admit I had.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
How old of a person? Can we ask how old
Nicole is? She younger? Older? You? Same age?
Speaker 2 (16:13):
I believe you're thirty eight? Yeah, yees, yeah you're younger.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Have you been married before, Nicole?
Speaker 7 (16:20):
I have yes, I was married about six years ago.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Okay. And do you have kids?
Speaker 7 (16:24):
Well, I do have two daughters and yeah, two daughters.
I was married and I'm nice and single.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Are you okay? Brett wanted me to ask you if
you would sever your parental rights?
Speaker 2 (16:38):
What did.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
What he does?
Speaker 1 (16:47):
I would like to adopt your daughter.
Speaker 7 (16:49):
It's just one of John's things.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Yeah, anyway, I'm really happy for you guys. Really, that's cool.
It'sn't that funny that you were gonna come in he
already find Like he literally was texting me yesterday going,
hey man, I was going to come in to help
find someone, but I think I found someone.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Well, I was freaked out. I told her, I go,
what do I do? You know? Because I'm like, I
mean it is we talked about this, so I'm like,
there is that ambiguity if you don't want to ruin
an opportunity like this, right if somebody is going to
flake out on you or you know, ghost or what
have you. And she's like, no, I'm ten toes down.
Let's se where this goes. But I'll be a good sport.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Does Nicole have nice feet? You know what?
Speaker 2 (17:21):
I haven't seen that. And it's funny you mentioned that
because we talked about the whole foot thing up here,
because we know you guys have an empire. I did
let her know. I did let her know. And Nicole
tell me if you think I'm lying here, I said,
it is a red flag with me if you have
like crazy troll feet, you know, because I have a theory.
You know, people like women that you know, don't take
care of that area usually you know there could be
(17:41):
hygiene things other places, and so I won't do like,
I'm not on your level with this stuff. But like,
nice feet do matter. Like I'm Nelly from the early
two thousands. You know you have corn rows and pedicure toes.
It does matter, you know, it does matter. Speaking of
she has a fetish, tell them what your fetish. She
wasn't a coole about the Nelly thing, you know, don't lie.
(18:03):
Don't get shy now.
Speaker 7 (18:04):
Nelly quotes of course, No, no, I don't have a
fetus with Nelly. But I did love Nellie when I
was younger, specifically in the band aid era.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
She wants me to wear a band aid all the time.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
I agree. I wanted to be Nelly with the band
aid for Halloween.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
When she still put band aids on toes.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
So I the real question is if I wear the
band aid, like does that give me extra points? Like
what is the band aid?
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (18:28):
I mean like, yeah, maybe I do that. It's not
quite does it have the same effect.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
As like, if you're ten toes down, now you better
get that band aid.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Okay, so your book, the one, your first book, Art
of Coaching, Conscious Coaching, Conscious Coaching. Sorry, come on, but
you coach, you coach coaches.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Well, now it's broader. What the hell candy did I
put in my mouth? This thing is like, I know,
Peyton put it there. I love it. I like all over. Yeah,
all of our work now is broader. So military, uh,
first responders all that. How to deal with dickheads? Right,
how to deal with the dark side of leadership. We
(19:07):
all meet manipulative people, we all have our own inner darkness.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
That's that's important.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
We got to have you back and talk about that
my other podcast on John Jay's pod.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
You have another podcast.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
I do a video.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
What came on my podcast?
Speaker 1 (19:19):
It was great.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Yeah, everything was like, this guy's in the this guy's
in the hot tub at three am contemplating life. You're like,
I go on the hot tub. You know, you have
like a whole routine that was like five years ago routine.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
I don't know as much do what he does. I
watch TV and I do my makeup.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
That's your prep. I'm Nicole. I know you got to
go back and save dogs. Thank you so much for
doing what you're doing with the Made Society.
Speaker 7 (19:40):
Hey absolutely, thank you for having me on and Bright.
I'm looking forward to seeing you more and getting to
know you more. So thank you.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
I appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Safe who saved Who? Thanks? All right? Okay, so would
your next book come out?
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Next book comes out summer of next year. Publisher determines
all that, so they take it. I just finished the manuscript.
They take it for nine months. They do all their
legal blah blah blah blah blah, make sure everything, and
then you come back.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
We'll promote it. And I want to do a podcast
on my other podcast anytime. Okay, good, Yeah, because I
will all be there. I really like your vocabulary. They
have a good vocabulary.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
Yeah, you have to keep Glen what happens?
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Yeah, that'd be fun.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Did you tell did you tell Kyle what you told
me about the compound we're building in the back of
my house by the way?
Speaker 1 (20:19):
No?
Speaker 2 (20:19):
What?
Speaker 1 (20:20):
All right?
Speaker 2 (20:20):
So like context brief context, Like I travel and I'm
seeing them out for work and I'm trying to cut
down on that so I can be at home for
my kid. Whatever. So we're putting up a two thousand
square foot kind of metal building where we can host events.
We have a small gem meeting space. It's we're all
doing my podcast all that. You know what he says
to me, that's a great place for foot picks.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
Oh god, I'm sure that.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
He's like everywhere he goes. Are you gonna have like
a glass ceiling where they can stand above you can
do from the.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
He's got a secret.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
I told you. I don't mind them.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Hey man, thanks for popping it.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Thank you for having me. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
So any informa you want to give out and listening
to the podcast, so they want to follow you get
your books.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Easiest way to do it go to artocoaching dot com.
Or you can find my book Conscious Coaching on Amazon,
but go to Artofcoaching dot com. That's the company. Yeah,
you're right about everything.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
All right, thanks Brett. All right, that's our Afterwards podcast.
John d Rich
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