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March 4, 2025 • 16 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
People are fired up about the second It up date. Tessa,
good morning, what's what's up? Go ahead?

Speaker 2 (00:13):
I John Jay, I am so freaking pissed right now.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
I cannot even who does Bailey think she is? Seriously,
I'm feel so sorry for Gabriel. I mean, what a
decent guy. What is she expecting to pay her like
trash bill pay for everything? Like he should like just
take care of her because he wants to take her
out for a date. Are you freaking kidding me? This

(00:38):
is what the problem is with men, and they think,
you know, oh, I'm taking a nice lady out, and
it's just oh.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Jet mad right now?

Speaker 4 (00:51):
Fired up?

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Right, that's a problem with men.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
I cannot even contain how I'm like sideriously shaking here
in traffic. I'm so mad right now.

Speaker 4 (00:59):
Who are are you mad at? Are you mad at Gabriel?
Or are you mad at it? No?

Speaker 3 (01:03):
Gabriel is Oh my god, he's a saint, that poor guy.
I feel so bad for him.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
That's not saying I'm like, you can't be mad at
somebody for not knowing what they don't know. If you
expect them to pay, you should say something and then
let him decide. Because he might go like, well, hey
don't I don't want to have to pay for your babysitter.
I'm not the kid's dad. If you want to go out,
figure it out. He could say that, but she didn't
give him the option.

Speaker 5 (01:25):
No, she didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
She is like a whole other level of volulu and crazy.
I mean, she is just I look at her as
a woman that she just gives a bad name to
those that are trying to find a nice guy to
date and who are parents because.

Speaker 5 (01:43):
I have five kids.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
The first thing you do is you tell a guy.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
You know I have children.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
But if you're looking to go out, you're not expecting
them to hit the bill for your babysitter, for their kids,
food for the night for I mean, like, what does
she want him to do do her life dry cleaning
as well? Like him put gas in my car to
get me there.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
That all depends about how she is. I think, Wow, wait, Tessa,
you said you're frustrated listening to us in traffic. Where
exactly are you? I'm trying to get a visual so
I can like I want to see things through your eyes.
Where are you? What free were you on?

Speaker 2 (02:15):
I was on Grand Avenue.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
I just got off because I'm so mad. The people
next to me were looking at me, and I think
they were concerned because I was like screaming.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
All right, Tessa, thank you so much for listening. Drive safe.

Speaker 6 (02:29):
Thank you, Lindsey, Hi.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Go ahead your thoughts on second.

Speaker 7 (02:36):
I am with her. I'm with her one I too,
am a single mom of two kids. In A first
date is for two people to go and get to
know each other. You both need to be interested and invested.
No one owes the other one anything. It is insane
for her to think that he should pay for her babies.
That's her job. Make yourself free, and if you do
make yourself free and tell someone you're available, it's rude

(02:57):
on your part to ghost them, period, Blake. He doesn't
owe you anything. If you don't want to meet somebody
unless they pay your bills for everything, that's what you
need to be upfront about. That's where your clue is,
not him. This is a new issue, Bailey, no one else.
Twenty of us just want to have a nice time
with a nice guy and don't expect anything if it
moves forward. That's a conversation.

Speaker 8 (03:16):
To have a first date is to get to know
each other.

Speaker 9 (03:18):
You don't owe each other.

Speaker 7 (03:19):
Jack, that's ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
Fair enough.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
I agree with you, man. Thanks, I'd love you, passion, Lizzie,
thank you so much, No problem, Donna, good morning on
the air.

Speaker 8 (03:31):
I just want to say, Gabriel, you got a huge
red flag.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
See Gabriel all the way like as a single on myself.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Okay, thanks Donna one uh yeah, do that on the
first date. Yeah, good morning, j Let's can help you.

Speaker 8 (03:49):
Oh.

Speaker 7 (03:49):
I wanted to respond.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
I wanted to respond to the second go ahead. Oh,
I just wanted to say.

Speaker 10 (03:57):
Too, like I totally disagree with the that she expected
her date to pay for her baby like babysitter. I
think that's ridiculous, first of all, like that's something you
need to do with your baby, dad and yourself or
a family member, like that's not the one who's coming
into the picture for the first time to take responsibility

(04:18):
of that. And then second to throw out that she
already pays for daycare and her child's clothing and her care, Like, girl,
that's your baby, that is your child, your responsibility. This
is not your baby daddy. You're talking to take.

Speaker 9 (04:31):
That all out on him?

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Very very true, very true. Thank you for calling in Yeah,
of course, good bye, Stephanie. High you.

Speaker 8 (04:42):
As a single mom. Not once did I ever, ever,
ever expect a guy to pay for my kid child care, daycare,
or to go on a date, not even to help
pay for it. No, that's your responsibility if you're dating.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
No, you're right, that's ridiculous for Gabriel.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Think we all were with you, Stephanie, thank you, Candy,
good morning.

Speaker 9 (05:01):
Hi.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Hi.

Speaker 11 (05:04):
So I started out as single mother. I am actually
married to the man that I was with when she
was very young, and I would have never, in my
wildest dreams asked him to pay for a babysitter if
I wanted to go out. I wanted to go out,
I pay for it.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
I get dressed.

Speaker 11 (05:24):
I do all that on my own because I am
a single mother. I am independent. I take care of
what I need to take care of.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
Yeah, wasn't it interesting too, It's not like Gabriel was
resistant even so, oh, if that's important to you, let's
do that. And she shut them down again. So there
must have just not been enough magic between.

Speaker 12 (05:41):
The two, ieel like there must have been some sort
of trauma from a different relationship where she was just
totally misunderstood as a single mom where it's like there
are people who don't realize, like, these kids are going
to be important to me. These kids are going to
be my number one priority. So I kind of felt
like maybe in a relationship she had before, that person
didn't understand.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
That it was unusually hostile.

Speaker 11 (06:03):
When Kyle just said there must have been unreasonable.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
When Kyle said there must have been some trauma, I
was like, oh, there must have been some magic in
that old top hat they found when they and began to.

Speaker 4 (06:16):
Dance round adult ADHD And right there.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
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We will continue to address this issue on our Afterwards podcast.
So feel free to call eight seven seven nine three
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rich On kiss keep japin, keep growing, keep rolling this

(06:45):
Afterwards podcast. Lots of people passionate about second and up eight.
Good morning, John Jay and rich can help you.

Speaker 9 (06:51):
Yes, I was just seeing that you guys are still
talking about the segment about the second date up date.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
Yes, go ahead your thoughts.

Speaker 9 (07:01):
So for me, I've dated, I've been dating around and
never once have I even and I'm pretty like mindful
about like, you know, like people's situations. I never thought
about being asking a woman for who's going to watch
your kid as far as like them pain, like for

(07:21):
a babysitter to go out. That's never crossed my mind.
And I think a lot of guys aren't really like
thinking about that, you know, Yeah, sure brought up and yeah,
and we don't want to intrude because we don't want
to like start asking about their kids because there's a
lot of creepy people out there, and we don't want
to be like, hey, you know what's going on, who

(07:43):
watched your kids? So yeah, that's I'm glad you brought
that up.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
You got kids, You need a babysitternight. Okay, you know
what you could do too exactly? Maybe we can start
a whole new thing now where when you're flirting with
someone you make plans to go on a date, you
could say, look, here's my budget. I have two hundred
fifty dollars for dinner tonight. In a movie, you can
take your daycare out of that, and if you take
more money out of the daycare, then maybe we can
only afford all of gardens so romantic.

Speaker 9 (08:08):
Yeah, that's a pretty big budget for a first dame.

Speaker 4 (08:13):
Right, you can get a lot of olive gardens for
two hundred dollars.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Just cost seventy five dollars for babysitting.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
Well, I guess that's true.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
All right, thanks man, have a great day, dude. Thanks listen, Tanya,
good morning, good morning, second date. Update your thoughts.

Speaker 5 (08:31):
Oh, I'm seen Gabriel all the way.

Speaker 8 (08:33):
That woman is crazy to just think that he owes
her anything.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
It was one day.

Speaker 7 (08:38):
He don't owe her nothing, no babysitter, he said, he's
at the LP.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
She's got the win for sure. Anything.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
Yeah, how comes. Everybody's happy that Gabriel never went on
a first date. They're like, thank god for you.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
A single mom always once a single mom. So my
daughter was three, Okay, I never expected my husband now
to pay for anything when we first started dating.

Speaker 5 (09:02):
Oh I need a babysitteror no, you figure it out.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yeah, you're right, you're right man, passion.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Titleman, and that woman was absurd. It's a shame. I
hope her child doesn't end up like her.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Michelle, good morning, you're in the air. Hi, good morning,
you're on the Afterwards podcast. Yes, go ahead.

Speaker 13 (09:26):
I think we're all missing her point. She wasn't saying
that she wanted the babysitter to be paid. I can
go ahead and get behind her point when she said,
I just don't want to train him. And in my experience,
I actually been married twice where I being technically trained

(09:49):
my ex husbands, So now I see them with other
women and they're the man that I ask them to be.
So I think that's where she's coming from, that she
does and want to train another man. She wants a
trained man that it's good enough for her already who
didn't come and know, Like yeah, but she.

Speaker 4 (10:11):
Had a lot of trapdoors for him. It's like if
he didn't pass her her will you pay for the
babysitter test, which she wouldn't know was a test, then
she just dropped him and he said, I'd be happy
to pay for it, just tell me. So I kind
of get his point.

Speaker 13 (10:25):
Yeah, at both points are very valid. I just everybody's
attacking her, but I can see her point as well.
Like me, if I was going to be dating again
after a seven year marriage. I don't want to train
another man. I want that man to actually come into
my life and know what he wants.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
So you'd be a good advertising campaign for people like
if if Michelle's dating this guy, she's getting him ready
for you. If Michelle's married to guys, she's getting him
ready for you.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
Good ones, You're right Michelle.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
Yesterday, I have a great day. Thanks for listening.

Speaker 13 (11:05):
All right, Thank you, guys.

Speaker 5 (11:06):
A Z Cactus good morning, Yes, good morning, good morning.
I have got the comment on this issue with this
girl saying that she needed babysitting money. What an insult
to her own intelligence? Who talks that way? Who even
expects that? Out of anyone? You chose it to deal
with it. But what I want to say is this

(11:29):
is the problem with men today. I'm an older woman,
probably a little older than you, John Jay. However young men,
oh no a thirty eight. Well I'm a lot older
than you. But I only date older men. Why because
there's no drama. Men know that if they go for
somebody their own age or younger, it's all bullshit that

(11:50):
goes through this whole thing.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
What do you mean, I love you?

Speaker 5 (11:53):
Well, these young women expectations like what Peyton's. She's heard
of women who say they need to go shopping, they
need this, say that, and expect the guy to pay.
What the hell?

Speaker 14 (12:05):
Why?

Speaker 5 (12:06):
Why are you expecting a man to do this for you?
Where's your own money? Where are you at?

Speaker 12 (12:10):
All?

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Right?

Speaker 5 (12:11):
Is this a port persons dilemma? I don't know, but
even if you're a low income, I'm sure you've got
to accommodate somehow for yourself and your kids. I just
think that it's such a stupid thing for anyone. I
don't care how old you are. I don't care how
many kids you've got. Maybe you don't have any kids.
Why do you expect a man to take care of everything?
Where is your money?

Speaker 1 (12:31):
Very good?

Speaker 5 (12:32):
Have money or a job? You have no business out there?

Speaker 1 (12:34):
All right? Good points? Is he cactus? Thank you for listening.

Speaker 8 (12:38):
You're welcome there, coming in hot.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
Elma, Good morning, you're on the Afterwards podcast. Second it
update your thoughts.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
Go ahead, Bailey needs to get off of online dating.
If she doesn't have a sitter already, like a backup
sitter ready to go, she should not expect anybody to
pay for it. I was a single moms. Thank goodness,
my kids are twenty five and twenty. But I've never
expected anybody to pay. That's ridiculous. I think you guys

(13:05):
need to bring Gabriel in and find them at real date.

Speaker 4 (13:07):
Yeah, I did any guys when you were dating with
your babies? Did any guys ever offer to pay for
the babysitter to go out with you?

Speaker 2 (13:14):
I'm no, absolutely not, But I never like held that, oh,
you know, against them. I always had a backup though.
You know, if I was going to be out there
putting myself out there to be open to dating, then
I had a backup already.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yeah. I guarantee you guys, no, thanks Alma.

Speaker 7 (13:31):
Thank you absolutely not.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
Bye bye, Kelvin, good morning, Thanks for holding You're on
the Afterwards podcast. Go ahead, Yes, I.

Speaker 14 (13:39):
Just I wanted to give a guy's perspective on the
second date update. I think that I feel bad for
my man Gabriel, someone who has dated and is now
married to a woman who had a child. The one
thing I am extremely thankful for is that she gave
me so much mercy and grace in the beginning, because,
as a twenty five year old who had never dated

(14:00):
a single mom I think Rich said it earlier today too.
I didn't know what I didn't know, and there was
a lot of coaching involved, but again, she was willing
to take that time to say, hey, you know, when
you're in this position, this is how you have to
handle certain things. And then I just ended up falling
in love with the child too, and then eventually we
just became a family. So I just feel bad for

(14:21):
Gabriel because I don't I feel like he wasn't given
the chance to show her. And you know, I agree
with Kyle too, where I think there was just past
trauma and I think that she just instantly was just
like not trying to go on the date with the guy,
and it just wasn't fair to him. So I wanted
to give that perspective.

Speaker 15 (14:40):
Super great guy, kill and your girl's daughter's so lucky
to have you as that extra love too.

Speaker 7 (14:46):
That's awesome because there's not a lot of men out
there that stick around for stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Yeah, thanks Kevin.

Speaker 14 (14:52):
Yeah absolutely, thanks guys, Good.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Morning, John Jay and Rich can help you.

Speaker 6 (14:58):
Oh yeah, I wanted to try men on the discussion
they were having today this morning.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Go ahead.

Speaker 15 (15:06):
Yeah, So I'm sorry, but that woman needs therapy and
she founded Borderline Erotic. So no, it is absolutely not
a requirement for single men out there who are wanting
to date women with children. It is not a requirement.
If you choose to offer to pay, that is just

(15:27):
a really nice gesture, but it is not required.

Speaker 5 (15:31):
I don't know, like whoever wanted to think she was.

Speaker 6 (15:35):
A fired up right yes, because you know, I'm a
mom and now I'm married and I dated and it
was never requirement and never came to my mind that, oh,
somebody needs to pay for me to go out or like, No,
I just think like, but one of the ladies said

(15:57):
she must have some trauma and she definitely need to
find therapy.

Speaker 13 (16:01):
Gabriel, fun, you try to.

Speaker 6 (16:04):
Say that, oh in the long run, what is it
going to be?

Speaker 15 (16:08):
Like, No, in the long run, that's just huge red
black for Gabriel.

Speaker 13 (16:12):
Gabriel run.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Thank you so much, Gabriel run, have a great day.
Thank you for calling. Good Yes,
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