April 18, 2025 • 34 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, well we are into another new hour insensitivity
training for politically correct world. It's Friday morning, everybody, Yeah,
loved another week. It is what Friday morning? It is
the Woody Show. My name is what? That's Greg Gory.
There's Gina Gregg. All right, we got Menace who is here?
(00:21):
Good morning, Menace Bass, Sammy's here, Morgan's here, and we
have a special studio guest ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
The one, the only Kevin Smith.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
You can't keep me away.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
We don't want to.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Let me tell you something man before we dive into
anything else. Uh what he reached out to me? Was
it last week or whatever?
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (00:43):
He was like, hey, man, Menace is walking like it was?
That felt like it was two in the morning. Oh
is walking? Didnety like you got a live stream.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
And yeah that happened.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Yeah, yeah, he walked from the Disney Burbank lot to Disneyland.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Yeah, like a like a fundraiser.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
I wanted to do it, and I'm so happy you
brought it up because I actually there's something involving that
walk that I felt terrible about like the entire day after,
and involved you because we wanted to bring you in
on the live stream in the last thirty minutes of it.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
And then what He's like, Oh, bring in somebody in
the live stream, and he said Kevin.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I didn't realize.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
I was so out of it because I already walked
like forty ye and I was like, oh, I don't
want to stress the stream. I don't know who you're
talking about. And then he said Kevin Smith, and I
was like, oh, for Kevin, I'll do it because for me,
you walk on water because I'm I was an ex
film student turned to radio guy. And I felt absolutely
terrible because I thought, like, you heard me say like
(01:50):
I don't want to do that, and then we try
to get a hold of you, and I'm like, oh, I.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Pissed off Ken Smith.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
And I was laying in bed like all day next day,
I'm like, I pissed off worship.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
My wife doesn't worry about offending me, Like you just
displayed here.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
That's very It wouldn't that be nice?
Speaker 4 (02:08):
But number two, it was all on me man, because
he was like, do a thing, and I was like,
I'm old.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
F Well, you're always on social media, but I do
like live streaming.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Yeah, it's because you can join in and so like,
you know, kind of stop in and say hi kind
of thing.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
But it was a mutual nod job.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
So it's fine, yes, yeah, but I was like, I
was pretty devastated.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
No, not at all. Oh my god, look, you're the
only reason I come here. Never mind, it's always been
you menace. But I heard on the way up in
the elevator. My I got a compliment on my hookahs.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
I'm not like one of these.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
I'm not a cultist, but when I found a product
that works, I stand up.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
We were on the Clerk's three tour My sneakers like
falling apart, and I went into like one of these
hiking stories because we were in Bold, so it wasn't
like I could just go to the mall.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
I saw a walking store across the street.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
I say, man, like I'm on my feet a lot
was a good sneaker, and that dude was just like, oh,
let me show you, and he whipped out the Parodi's
Hocus and they looked ridiculous. They looked like, well, this
is what you make an action figure where so it
stands off and he's like, try him on, And I
tried him on. And they were like literally pillow soft.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yeah, it was great.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
So ever since then, I've got about eight pair, eight
different pairs.
Speaker 6 (03:30):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
And it's I'm not a sneaker head.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
I don't collect or anything, but like, damn if you
can't accomplish things, this sneaker I know.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
And it hurts my heart because I am a sneaker guy,
and I'm.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Like, are they considered like a mom sneaker or a
dad sneaker?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I think like geriatric, I think.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Whatever.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
As an old head sneakerhead guy.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
To me, they are, but the younger generations have really
embraced them and they rock them.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Like Grandpa, they say, the Grandpa style shoes, the pre
I just read something about the I told Menace about.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I said, hey, you're in luck then, dude.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Yeah, I just read an article on this new Adida
shoo that looked just like the Hookahs too.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
I'm oh, God, changing the market man. But wait a second,
So just to go back to the walk, how long
did it take?
Speaker 5 (04:18):
It's I left at three am and I got there
at nine forty pm, so I don't know it like fifteen.
Speaker 6 (04:26):
Hours yeah, total more in that way, more than that. Yeah,
it's like, uh, let's see three to three is twelve
plus another six. You're right that we we estimated eighteen hours.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
Originally I wanted to get there around like eight o'clock,
but you know, so many cool listeners stopped and I
kept on stopping and saying there were stops.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Was it broadcast?
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Oh yeah, yeah. We streamed the entire video stream the
whole film. People knew it was real. It was April
for reels.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I know you don't smoke we anymore, but you look
like it like a confused stone.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Like get all the logistics together on Like, how did
you broad It was all the broadcasting just done from
your phone.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, so I had harness with a bunch of ye
used mobile and not sponsored.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Video stream, well we have.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
We have Kevin Smith in studio with us, and there's
a lot to talk to you about. I know, Greg's
got a question for you, and then I got a
lot of questions about Dogma is Back in Your Possession
one of my one of my favorite movies. The first
time I ever met you is like, I couldn't wait
to talk about Dogma. I mean everybody you know, Clerks
of course, and all the other movies that you've done.
But like Dogma is one of those things because it
hasn't been available for so long, and the story about
(05:38):
why hasn't been available on you know, DVD and streaming
service and everything else got really interesting for a while.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
And but now it's back in your possession of a
movie that you wrote and acted in and directed, and so, uh,
there's a whole thing around this that we're going to
talk about. And well, we got to take the break first
because I know, man, once we get talking, we're going
to talk. Oh yeah, and we have Kevin Smith here.
Can find him on Twitter and Instagram at that Kevin
Smith more what he showed next?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Hang on, so what do you showed to be.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Happy Friday, everybody? Kevin Smith is here. Happy Friday, everybody. Yes,
Happy Friday to you. It's good to see how you doing.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
You're doing, and you're doing.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
I have no complaints whatsoever, man, I you seems like
you're having a good time.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
You know, on social media, you're doing a lot of stuff.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Before I got here, I was checking. We got the
final art on doing a crossover. I got a comic
book label called the Secret Stash Press over at dark
Horse Comics, and so we do a comic book called
Quick Stops, which is like offshoot stories from the viewsk universe, Jane, Silent, Bob,
the Clerk's characters and whatnot. All those movies that I
made that were interconnected. These are little stories that you
(06:45):
would never bother to make a whole movie about. So
we're doing a crossover with the folks at Archie. So
it's Archie meets Jane's and I just saw all the
final artwork and match it against like the script, and
it was wholesomely to life. Like a lot of people
right away are like, oh, man, are Jane and something
Bob I'm gonna do?
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Betty Rock is like they're teenagers.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
No, that's not the story, but it wound up being
it's it fits insanely well in the arch universe, Like, yes,
there's definitely moments that push the line and stuff, but
it's shockingly wholesome and it really at the base of
it is a story about how Archie comes to work
at Quick Stuff and it helps Randall get over the
(07:28):
death of Dante. Like it's nuts, man, I can't believe
it worked. The artist absolutely killed it, and we're all
drawn in.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
The Archie style, so you wrote it. Yeah, I wrote
it and then wrote the story.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Yep, that's how you're do it in comics. Well, some
people can write a script and draw.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
It as well tell you, but you come up with
all this stuff my whole story, and it's like no
weed anymore.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
No.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
But I was like, how do I make this work?
And I found a way to work.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
There were enough parallels, like we referenced the Archie characters
and Chasing Amy, like mister Weatherby and Archie and and
Joghead and stuff. So there's like a joke there, a
long running joke that we were kind of associated with
Archie because of that.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
But there's a Veronica in their world, Veronica and our world.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Our guy Dante was always caught between two girls, so
to speak.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
So it kind of worked out.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Now.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
So this morning I got up and I was just like,
like I never saw this coming, Like they reached out
and they're like, you want to do this?
Speaker 3 (08:19):
I was like, how have we not done this? Yeah?
And it just made me so happy. Am I get
rich off it? Absolutely not.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
You get paid like maybe one hundred bucks of page
in comics or something like that, and at you know,
this is forty pages. So it's all right for writing,
but nobody gonna live off that you do it because
the joy. And this morning I sat there and received
all the joy. Writing comics, writing cartoons always has this
delayed benefit effect where you do a thing and then
you go on with your life and then like a
(08:47):
month two months later, somebody presents you with the thing
you wrote and it's all drawn out and it just delivers.
That's what you need to do, is set up cascading
joy throughout your life, particularly in a time right now where.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
There's so little of that.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Kevin Smith is here, find him on Twitter and Instagram
at that Kevin Smith. And where will people be able
to find that? Like how much July? All right, so
that'll be stand So like what is it? Comic book stores?
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Now?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
You've got pre.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Orders going right now and there's like a thousand different versions.
It's fun, but yeah, your whole life is fun.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yeah, it's all your stuff, your creativity and the stuff
you want to do. It's almost as good as our life.
Guess who's gas and guessing if someone's fat or skinny,
and talking about your crap and redneck news.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Kevin Smith is here. Dogma's coming out in theaters.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
We've got a lot to talk about their Dogma movie
dot com for all the info. More. Kevin Smith coming
up here on The Woody Show. I think, all right,
welcome back everybody. Oh it's Friday morning, It is the Show.
(10:01):
Kevin Smith is here very excited to get Dogma backed.
I know because Dogma was one of those movies and
I remember I heard about the controversy before I even
knew what it was.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
And this is like what year, like, come about ninety
year my.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Kid was born.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Okay, so in fact, my kid, we were going to
get my kid baptized and somebody put a brick through
our front window. Yeah, because then when the movie came out,
there were people on the religious folks who were upset
about them.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
They remember, okay, yeah, because this this coincided with an
event in my career where I was living in Saint
Louis at the time. The Pope was coming to town.
Oh no, to Saint Louis, and it was causing all
kinds of traffic problems. It's kind of like with F
one in Vegas, Like everybody in Vegas hates F one
because you know the chaosity that creates getting around.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
In historic St. Louis hates the Holy Father.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Even before traffic, but do they it's it's the most
Catholic city in America.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
I'm just I'm sure you found out in this experience
with Dogma. Anyway.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
So I'm like, look, man, if the Pope really wants
to and I was like ripping on like the you know,
the Pope coming to town. Well, the Secret Service made
us stop the radio station and make sure that I
wasn't going to like inflame anybody.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Yeah, while the Pope and also guests who was in
town right around that time was George Carlin, so he
and he was on stage.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
I went to that show, was at the Fox.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Theater, and and he's making it anyway, so your controversy,
and then I was I was taking off the air
for the two days of.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
The Pope was in town. That's he could be a threat.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
No, there were no threats. They just didn't want me
like riling people up about that.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Threat.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Yeah, that wasn't saying to do anything. It was just
you know, bitching about the traffic. Get him off the air.
So I heard about the controversy with dog when I'm like, oh,
I must see this. This is definitely from a sense
of humor standpoint right down Broadway from me saw the movie.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
What a bunch of cool twists.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Speaking of George Carlin, George Carlin Atlantis, Moore said, of
course everybody else.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
That you have.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
This most star studied it's a great.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
James Allen Bob reboot was the most star study cast.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
And anyway, so you know, dogma great movie, and you
know you'd be able to watch it back at that time,
and then there was this great dark period where you
couldn't get it. And it's because Harvey Weinstein, Yes, the
Harvey Weinstein, he had the rights to it.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Yeah, well, technically what happened was in order for the
movie to come out, Disney hated it. Disney owned Mirrimax
at that time. So Disney was like, you guys got
to get rid of this movie. And this had happened
before a Mirror Max with a couple of films. For example,
there's a movie called Kids.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Oh yeah, and so as a young man, I was like,
you know what, I can probably go to the rest
of my life stt having sex.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Yeah, mirror Max made that movie. Mirri Max was owned
by Disney. Disney was like, you got to get rid
of this movie. It's not a Disney type film. And
so the Weinstein brothers personally bought the movie and then
released it themselves, and they made a bunch of money
with it. So when the dog would controvert happen, and
then Disney, like Michael Eisner, was leaning on Harvey gun
(13:04):
you have to get rid of this movie. You never
should have made it in the first place, and now
you have to get rid of it. So Harvey and
Bob had a model already from what they did with Kids,
where they bought Dogma personally, although I never saw a receipt,
you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, there was no
proof that they actually money changed hands they ever paid
Disney back, which is a point of contention. But in
(13:24):
any event, once they had it, then they licensed it
out first to Lionsgate for theatrical release. This baby lions Gate.
This is like I remember when we hit thirty million,
Lionsgate took out a double page ad going.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
For thirty million.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
This is the company that would go on to make
you know.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Games, Dunger games, franchises and whatnot.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
So there was a time they were a very small company.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
So Lionsgate had a for theatrical Sony or columby TriStar
had it for home video. When you do these things,
they have deals, and those deals eventually laps you. That
probably did a ten year deal or something like that,
as we all know, went through some issues and is
in jail.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
A year ago.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Year and a half ago, we started reaching out, going like,
I wrote a very heartfelt letter about how this is
my fourth movie, and I know you made lots of them,
but this is tied in with my father who's dead,
and it's all about my Catholicism. It's sitting on a
shelf someplace. Can we please have it? It's twenty fifth
anniversaries coming out. I offered two hundred and fifty k.
(14:25):
The lawyer got back to us said absolutely not. So
I wrote another letter and then offered five hundred k.
Lawyer came back said absolutely not. That's about as high
as I can go without reaching out to others who
may be like perhaps I reached out to Benemett. So
I was able to go back and be like, how
about a million bucks? Still told us to know. So
that was it. Six months, eight months go by, I
(14:47):
forget about it because it's all done and stuff. Then
we get a call from these people who are like,
we just bought like ten movies, and we were going
through them and we see one has Ben Affleck in it.
What do you know about this company that bought movies?
Studio didn't buy these movies. What happened was this, I
guess this guy, of course is ever fighting his legal battle,
so he had more bills and he liquidated a bunch
(15:09):
of things that he personally owned. So the way I
heard the story is this his company is not even
a company, it's an investment.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
What do they call those things?
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Vents?
Speaker 4 (15:19):
So they bought a tronsch they called it of movies
that Harvey personally owned. One was Kids, Larry Clark's movie.
One was Fahrenheit nine to eleven Michael mooresecon They did
the same thing with that years later. Six of them
were kung Fu movies because he had been working on
(15:40):
kung Fu stuff with Quentin, so he started buying I
guess Shaw Brothers stuff maybe. And then one was Dogma.
And this whole tranche of films got sold as a
big set for not not we were within spitting distance, yes.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Wow, still all of them.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
One the guy who makes the decision was no.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
It was kind of felt like a real from Hell's
hard I stab at the kind of moment. But whatever.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
So this company was like, we own this now, but
we don't know what to do with it. Do you
want to play with it? I was like, that's all right,
So we did. First thing we did was our due
diligence to make sure that that dude is completely separated.
Because over the years people have been like, hey, I
get your Dogma back. I'm be like, great, man, let's
do it and stuff, and they're like, but a piece
of it goes back to him, and I was like,
(16:33):
I can't and never in a million years, I'd rather
never touch that movie.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
So he's I mean, he's got his own problems. I
doubt he even cares about this at this point.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
So now it's like, oh my god, I get to
play with it again. And it has been wild man, because,
like you got to remember, this happened nineteen ninety nine,
twenty six years ago. There was a Dogma poster, there
was a Dogma trailer, the Dogma marketing story had been written,
and like, now twenty six years later, they're like, here's
your new poster. I was like, oh my God, like
(17:00):
this is phenomenal, Like here's the new trailer, and the
trailer like I know that movie. The trailer made me
want to see the movie where I'm like this, this
movie looks dope, like it's just sold in a modern way.
We could never put the buddy Christ on the poster
back in the day. We were dodging death threats back
now now it's like, well, the image of Jesus pointing
(17:21):
we actually wink him with his thumbs up has been
co opted by so many people.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
That I was like, let's us use it.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
It came from us, like it's all over the internet
and stuff, and he became the center point of the poster.
We have all these famous people who are tiny around
him and Jesus front and center.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Argument. I was like, who is.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
More famous than Jesus?
Speaker 1 (17:40):
They all love them and so it's it's gonna be out,
like people can buy it, you could stream it.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Well, it comes out re releases theater June fifth, everywhere,
so the same way it would like a normal movie.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
But before that was so it's another what you call
the Resurrection premiere.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
It's called well, first there's Dogma the Resurrection Tour, and
then the movie on June fifth, is called Dogma Resurre.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Right, but I'm saying on Easter Sunday. This Sunday, the
tour begins, which I think is hilarious first of all. Also,
by the way, it's for twenty yes, yeah, it's all
coming together.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
So it literally came together in a month and a half.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
I was sitting on Zoom with everybody a month and
a half going, month and a half go going like
Easter is for twenty.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Yeah, and we were all like, let's do it.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
And the folks at Iconic Releasing Man made it happen
in a month and a half.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
NAMC Theaters has been amazing.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
So it's happening in LA at the Grove in Lack.
It off on Sunday for twenty this Sunday for twenty
Easter Sunday, which is perfect. And then after that it's
this Resurrection tour which is hitting a lot of woodies
show cities like, for example, Dallas on April thirtieth, Philadelphia
May fifth, Pittsburgh May twenty third, just some woody show cities.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Then back in LA. You can get all the details.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Just go to dogmamovie dot com.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Listen listening to it as long as you listening, this
is the Hood Show.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
A right, welcome back everybody, It is the Woodie Show.
It's Friday Morning Kevin Smith. This year Sunday the I'm
calling it the resurrection premiere Dogma securely back with Kevin
Smith where it belongs. And it's happening at the Grove
on Sunday, which is Easter Sunday.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Perfect timing. Nice.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
And then after you hit the road doing all the
things around different cities, you know, doing the Q and
A screenings that you do, it all wraps up back
in Burbank May thirtieth.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
We just added at the.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Exactly, man, I expect you to get a new pair
of Hokas for but yeah, right in Burbank May thirtieth.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
So cool. So what is like, what is like, madd
and Ben, what all guys think about it?
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Now?
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Like that's what an interesting question because somebody was like,
what's your guest list for the for the premiere on
on Sunday? And I was like, wow, Scott Moser's coming in.
He was a producer of the movie Laura Greenley. She
was like a line producer, social producer. And they're like, no, no,
I mean like your guest list, and I was like,
(20:13):
who the cast? Like yeah, I was like, I don't
heard from anybody.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
I texted Ben the day that the trailer was going
to drop and I was like, hey man, you got
a second and he was like, he's shooting a movie
right now. He's like, I will tonight. I was like,
I don't even need you tonight. I'm just gonna leave
something here. Watch it at your leisure. Is gonna make
you feel young again. And so didn't hear back, but
I don't take that as like him going like I
(20:40):
hate this.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
He's directing the movie.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
The next morning, Jordan, who's at Jason Mus's wife, she
runs our company. She like shamed me into texting Rock.
She's like, if you if you texted Ben, why wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
You just text Chris Rock?
Speaker 4 (20:54):
So I was like all right, and I reached out
to Rock and I was like, hey man, is this
still you?
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Because it has.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Been for right yeah?
Speaker 4 (21:01):
And uh, I said, is this still you? Rufous because
that's what we played in Dog. He was like, it's
still me, friend?
Speaker 3 (21:06):
How are you?
Speaker 4 (21:06):
And I said I got something to send you? And
I sent him the trailer with the passwords. So you
can watch it.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Never heard back, But again I don't they all they
all holy ghosted. You know, I'm stealing that joke.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
And taking on the road. That's glass right there.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
Yeah, so that's not a complaint, that's not me whining
or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
But everyone's in their own stuff, you know what I'm saying.
And that's something I always remember about.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
My work, is said, what about Alaris?
Speaker 3 (21:34):
I haven't heard from?
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
But again, this isn't.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Like I never here from I haven't heard from Georgia.
I wouldn't have that interesting that that was the way
he came to do in a dream? Yeah you got bad. Yeah,
he can't do in a dream instead of you know,
you gotta do this.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
Yes, you guys shooting promos for the movie at the
AMC at the Grove and they were doing a quality
check on on the new version because his new four
k uppers and stuff like that. So they were running
it in this big theater where we were also shooting,
and we came in just when the George Carlin scene happened,
and my god, he was just absolutely magnificent and.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
He was like the dude who on that movie. That
was like I was Catholic.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
When I started that movie over the movie was over,
I don't think I was Catholic anymore.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
And that was because of George.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
George is like at one point I was like saying,
hey man, so in this scene, you're gonna do this
and blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
You know, it's like that thing in church.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Well for more information, go to dogmamovie dot com. It's
dogmamovie dot com. You'll find all the dates and everything
else there. I'm super happy for because I know it's
such a big deal for you. For got it back
all come see it. We got we got more stuff
with Kevin Smith coming up next.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
He's ourbscole.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Now, all right, welcome back everybody.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
It is the Woody Show. It is all right. I
like that clip. We're gonna use that from now on.
Kevin Smith is here, the one, the only Kevin.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Smith, so delighted to do here as kids, you know
why this is a seven minute ride from my I'm
gonna say it again, and I always say when I
come in and it's never taken up on I would
literally come here.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
I know you say that. You say that all the
time every day. I thought it was fun. You know,
seeing a little bit about what you do. You know,
we're the with the four thirty movie thing just right
down the street. We just did that quick little thing
for your that's your latest movie as of right now.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
That was the Yeah, the last flick Guy come out,
And I've talked about before when I came on the show,
that opening gives me chills.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Number One, I love when a movie starts over, like
the studio logos.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
Yeah, Number two, you set the tone perfectly, man, because
like you understood the assignment.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
I came in and I was like, what do I
need Z one hundred.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Like old school like top forty.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
You started naming them. Oh yeah. You were like, oh
you want.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Him him or Hilly and yeah, dudes, we called them
human new human newman pukers.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
What do you mean? I was like yelling, screaming at that's.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
The term of does anyone puke anymore? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Now it's more of a podcast vibe right where every conversation.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Not on like the on the like the the old
not old. They're not oldie stations anymore, but they play
like a lot of eighties.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
It's not oclock. Yeah exactly exactly.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
But you nailed it, man, and song under it, like
all of that was perfect, and all the references and stuff.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
And he knew better than to show me on camera.
It's like, it's better scene than her moist built for radio.
Speaker 6 (24:29):
Not too long ago, Kevin did fill in shifts at
our sister station and I loved it.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Did a great that was great.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Yeah, I wanted that so badly. I wanted to be
the king of.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
A M Radio Los Angeles basin, but it didn't work
out and it still haunts me to this day.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
You're in better shade, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
The people around the air and I love I love radio, Yeah,
I know you do.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
And the how close it you guys are anyway.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Heart exact heart attack anyway. I I thought it was
I thought it was really fun to get to see
what you do. You come in here and you love
to see and participating in what we do. I thought
it was fun to go and participate and see.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
Time you come to a sad be in it like
on camera. Great, we're still our money fell apart for
we're making Jane Solemn, Bob Stor Wars. We were so
close and then our money which was Canadian fell apart. Yes,
so now it's back to Jordan board to find more money.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
It was just fine. I can't complaining. Man around gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
I'm around, yes, yeah, yeah yeah. So question about I'll t.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
How you began in a Kevin Smith movie. First you're
just a voice. Sure, then you our body? Pretty great one, right,
and we put them together.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Yeah, back to the Dogma thing real because Dogma's coming
back out in theaters June fifth.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Kevin finally got the movie back. It's the big anniversary.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
He's doing the whole thing, the resurrection towards hitting all
these woodies show cities Dallas, Philly, Pittsburgh, of course Los Angeles,
a big premiere, re premiere, new premiere this Sunday, Easter
Sunday for Dogma. Of all the things and all the
complaints and all the controversy that happened when first came out,
was there anything.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
That was scared?
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (26:01):
There like a scary threat. What we were really concerned
about we got it?
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Was it four hundred thousand pieces of hate mail and
three were verified death threats. And one of them I'll
still remember the one that said, and this is me
quoting a letter.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
So how do I put this? Do we need to
bleep it out, no border, we ready, can we bleep
it out?
Speaker 4 (26:23):
And you just standing by, But it was it was
directed at a group of people, so I'm not gonna
do it. I see you did it, but were I
assume it was in but so it said you and
in parentheticals people of the Jewish persuasion.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Okay, but we started a little more all of them.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
Man, you better take that money you stole from us
and start investing in flak jackets because we're coming in
there with shotguns.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Your brothers in christ.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
And too good. For too long, Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
It was terrifying, man. So there was we couldn't open
our mail in the office for like four months. And
sea when we went to Cannes, they installed for our screening.
Uh they installed up installed at the palais metal detectors. Sure,
because there were threats of violence and stuff. But the
weirdest one, and I still remember this and tell this often,
(27:18):
we got to the New York Film Festival premiere of
the movie. So it's Alice tully Hall. New York Film
Festival is a huge event back East every year, and stuff.
We brought our kid, Harley was just born, she was
an infant, and we put these little angel wings on her,
so she dressed like a little angel, still chubby cheeked
and stuff like just this like barely two months old.
(27:39):
So we come out of the car and there's a
thousand people lined up all around the theater holding statues
of Mary, praying the Rosary at Us, weaponizing prayer like
at Us and stuff peaceful. Nobody liked pushing or shoving,
but there were a lot of bodies, a lot of
people not happy that we were there. So we go
(27:59):
in and my plan is I tell the publicist, Gina Gardini.
I was like, I'm gonna go into it, but I'm
gonna bring the kid out because she got the wings on.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
It's gonna be adorable.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
And Gina's looking at me all weird, and I was
like what, and she goes, I just need to remind
you that anybody could buy a ticket for the screening.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
And I was like, I know, that's why I sold out.
It's awesome.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
She goes, no, anybody can buy a ticket for the screening.
This to happen, and I was like, oh, yeah, I
guess you're right. I was like, what's your point. She's like,
you're about to step on stage holding your baby. Yeah,
are you saying don't do that? She's going Kevin, I
would feel remiss to not at least mention it, considering
(28:35):
the climate around this movie, And I was like, I mean,
you know, do I I was scared, but I was like,
if I could go out there without the kid, that's
like letting the terrorists win. So I went out with
the kid. But I've been lying if I said I
wasn't using her like a human shield.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
That's the kids.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Four.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Hey, everybody, here's the kid in the balcony, and that's
the kids.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
I do.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
I do all of this blasphemy for her, all these
things I do in life I do for my family.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Yeah, he loves her.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
I was like, well, but also at the same time,
because she's serving a dual purpose.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
As scary as that kind of stuff is, I mean, like,
what what great marketing, especially for a movie like that.
You know more that group gets pissed off, like, the
better it was for the people who would love your movie, Yes.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
And no, like that was the thing I always felt
did the movie at disservice was people was like, oh, man,
I hear this movie gives it to the church.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
And when you see Dogma it's actually a pretty reverent film.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Yeah, no, it's great. It's pretty pro faith. So I
know there are a bunch of people out there who
were like, it's like Monty Python's Life of Brian. But
it wasn't like My Life of Brian went after their subject.
Mine was more about.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Like curious like that would be.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
It was written by a guy who was still kind
of believing in it.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
Like Carlin said to me when we were on set,
like at one point he was like, you really still
believe in all this, don't you? And I was like, yeah,
you raised Catholic, you don't. And he goes, I'm smarter
than that. Yeah, And that was like the beginning and
the end of my faith and stuff. So the movie
like came with issues and so much so that when
it was all over, I was like, next movie I make.
(30:12):
I just want to make a movie where like nobody's
mad at me, where nobody can follow the next one
Jane Solem, Bob straight back, nice and then we glad
went after or something.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
They're easier to deal with than pissed off Catholics, that's
for sure.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Way it's so weird because I never in my entire
career I've never courted controversy, Like I've never been the
guy that's like, let's poke at the establishment. But some
of the stuff I've done has people in a weird way,
and I just assume in my head and heart that
it's aged out of that. So so far this Dogma
re release has been relatively like none of the problems.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Have last time, different time. I hope it stays that way.
I really do. I'd be so happy.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Well, go see the re release June fifth in theaters
and then also it'll be I'm sure soon after a
pretty close so the streaming in that.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Stream and we got a nice steal book that's becoming.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
That'll be awesome, all right, So go to dogmamovie dot
com from Orformation on that.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
All right.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
We said the very beginning of your visit here today
that Greg had a question for you. This is something
I believe that we did talk about on the air
about a week or two ago. No one can answer
it just in general. It's not about you specifically, but you.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
You're the one this mask.
Speaker 6 (31:22):
Yes about this, and my question sounds so stupid, But
when you have a heart attack, yes, does it hurt?
And do you think somebody could have one without even.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Knowing one hundred percent. Number one, not a dumb question.
Number two.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
I can't speak to all heart attacks, and I'm sure
there are those that do hurt, but I had one
where I was not hurt. How it manifested was I
was sweating profusely, but I was heavier then, so I
always sweated, so I didn't notice that.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
I know that feeling and never felt pain. Wow. Never.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
Even when the doctor at the emergency room was like,
you're having a massive was like, how do you feel?
Speaker 3 (31:58):
I was like, if you'll find he goes.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
You're doing it wrong. We've been doing wrong. There's supposed
to be a lot of pain you have the massive
heart attack, so no pain. How how heavy were you
at your heaviest?
Speaker 3 (32:07):
My heaviest was three.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
I was always like, if I ever weigh my erico,
that's bad. And I went past. It was three two three,
and I eventually hit three thirty five.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Three thirty five.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
So when you when you had the heart attack, you
were three, It was three hundred, three hundred because I'd
stopped sugar for a while, so I dropped and what
do you know?
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Like is this your is this like last time? I
weighed crazy.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Skinny five, like are you feeling okay? Like, oh my god,
like right now. I always say like if somebody said
to me like, oh.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
My god, don't look well. You look you don't look well,
you look so sick.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Yeah, if anyone's ever like you look gaunt, I'm like,
thank you, I do that.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
How do I do it again?
Speaker 1 (32:42):
I always longed to look on you stop feel fat though,
sometimes like people talk about that.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
If I were to just robe like you would have
zero thought in either direction about oh this guy is
he was?
Speaker 2 (32:56):
But do you still feel like you're yes?
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Because you know I remember even when I lost a
ton of weaight, at one point I was two hundred
and I was one hundred and eighty five pounds after
being two hundred and sixty pounds, and I still felt
like I was too sixty.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
Like here, I I still buy to Excel underwear yea,
and it hangs off me and my wife is like,
you look disgusted.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
You look like a little old man.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
I was like, really big my wife.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
By new underwear, just by smaller.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
I was like, the moment I commit with smaller size
is when you're gonna go.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Starting at the back.
Speaker 6 (33:28):
I don't know if it's false memory syndrome, But didn't
you say that one of your concerns about the whole
heart attack thing was having to get naked in front
of him?
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Yes, see them they.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
Were trying to get me to get my hockey jersey
off me in the o R.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
And I was like, holding it down.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
That's a belly thing, not a penis thing. Right, it's
all because.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
If you got the belly, you don't got the.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Experience. I've been told that's so true. That's also true.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
Ye.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Well, Kevin, it's great to see you, excellency and so happy.
Uh the dog with thing is great because I know
how important that's been to you for.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Such a life.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Yeah, and watching I said on social media, seem like
you're in a really good place, seeming really happy. Things
are going well, and I'm happy for you. Above ground man,
Kevin Smith. Everybody year back your kids, all right, it
is the only show. Well you will beat right back.
All right, well we are into another new hour insensitivity
training for politically correct world. It's Friday morning, everybody, Yeah,
loved another week. It is what Friday morning? It is
the Woody Show. My name is what? That's Greg Gory.
There's Gina Gregg. All right, we got Menace who is here?
(00:21):
Good morning, Menace Bass, Sammy's here, Morgan's here, and we
have a special studio guest ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
The one, the only Kevin Smith.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
You can't keep me away.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
We don't want to.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Let me tell you something man before we dive into
anything else. Uh what he reached out to me? Was
it last week or whatever?
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (00:43):
He was like, hey, man, Menace is walking like it was?
That felt like it was two in the morning. Oh
is walking? Didnety like you got a live stream.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
And yeah that happened.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Yeah, yeah, he walked from the Disney Burbank lot to Disneyland.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Yeah, like a like a fundraiser.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
I wanted to do it, and I'm so happy you
brought it up because I actually there's something involving that
walk that I felt terrible about like the entire day after,
and involved you because we wanted to bring you in
on the live stream in the last thirty minutes of it.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
And then what He's like, Oh, bring in somebody in
the live stream, and he said Kevin.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I didn't realize.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
I was so out of it because I already walked
like forty ye and I was like, oh, I don't
want to stress the stream. I don't know who you're
talking about. And then he said Kevin Smith, and I
was like, oh, for Kevin, I'll do it because for me,
you walk on water because I'm I was an ex
film student turned to radio guy. And I felt absolutely
terrible because I thought, like, you heard me say like
(01:50):
I don't want to do that, and then we try
to get a hold of you, and I'm like, oh, I.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Pissed off Ken Smith.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
And I was laying in bed like all day next day,
I'm like, I pissed off worship.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
My wife doesn't worry about offending me, Like you just
displayed here.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
That's very It wouldn't that be nice?
Speaker 4 (02:08):
But number two, it was all on me man, because
he was like, do a thing, and I was like,
I'm old.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
F Well, you're always on social media, but I do
like live streaming.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Yeah, it's because you can join in and so like,
you know, kind of stop in and say hi kind
of thing.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
But it was a mutual nod job.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
So it's fine, yes, yeah, but I was like, I
was pretty devastated.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
No, not at all. Oh my god, look, you're the
only reason I come here. Never mind, it's always been
you menace. But I heard on the way up in
the elevator. My I got a compliment on my hookahs.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
I'm not like one of these.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
I'm not a cultist, but when I found a product
that works, I stand up.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
We were on the Clerk's three tour My sneakers like
falling apart, and I went into like one of these
hiking stories because we were in Bold, so it wasn't
like I could just go to the mall.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
I saw a walking store across the street.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
I say, man, like I'm on my feet a lot
was a good sneaker, and that dude was just like, oh,
let me show you, and he whipped out the Parodi's
Hocus and they looked ridiculous. They looked like, well, this
is what you make an action figure where so it
stands off and he's like, try him on, And I
tried him on. And they were like literally pillow soft.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yeah, it was great.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
So ever since then, I've got about eight pair, eight
different pairs.
Speaker 6 (03:30):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
And it's I'm not a sneaker head.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
I don't collect or anything, but like, damn if you
can't accomplish things, this sneaker I know.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
And it hurts my heart because I am a sneaker guy,
and I'm.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Like, are they considered like a mom sneaker or a
dad sneaker?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
I think like geriatric, I think.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Whatever.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
As an old head sneakerhead guy.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
To me, they are, but the younger generations have really
embraced them and they rock them.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Like Grandpa, they say, the Grandpa style shoes, the pre
I just read something about the I told Menace about.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I said, hey, you're in luck then, dude.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Yeah, I just read an article on this new Adida
shoo that looked just like the Hookahs too.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
I'm oh, God, changing the market man. But wait a second,
So just to go back to the walk, how long
did it take?
Speaker 5 (04:18):
It's I left at three am and I got there
at nine forty pm, so I don't know it like fifteen.
Speaker 6 (04:26):
Hours yeah, total more in that way, more than that. Yeah,
it's like, uh, let's see three to three is twelve
plus another six. You're right that we we estimated eighteen hours.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
Originally I wanted to get there around like eight o'clock,
but you know, so many cool listeners stopped and I
kept on stopping and saying there were stops.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Was it broadcast?
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Oh yeah, yeah. We streamed the entire video stream the
whole film. People knew it was real. It was April
for reels.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I know you don't smoke we anymore, but you look
like it like a confused stone.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Like get all the logistics together on Like, how did
you broad It was all the broadcasting just done from
your phone.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, so I had harness with a bunch of ye
used mobile and not sponsored.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Video stream, well we have.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
We have Kevin Smith in studio with us, and there's
a lot to talk to you about. I know, Greg's
got a question for you, and then I got a
lot of questions about Dogma is Back in Your Possession
one of my one of my favorite movies. The first
time I ever met you is like, I couldn't wait
to talk about Dogma. I mean everybody you know, Clerks
of course, and all the other movies that you've done.
But like Dogma is one of those things because it
hasn't been available for so long, and the story about
(05:38):
why hasn't been available on you know, DVD and streaming
service and everything else got really interesting for a while.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
And but now it's back in your possession of a
movie that you wrote and acted in and directed, and so, uh,
there's a whole thing around this that we're going to
talk about. And well, we got to take the break first
because I know, man, once we get talking, we're going
to talk. Oh yeah, and we have Kevin Smith here.
Can find him on Twitter and Instagram at that Kevin
Smith more what he showed next?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Hang on, so what do you showed to be.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Happy Friday, everybody? Kevin Smith is here. Happy Friday, everybody. Yes,
Happy Friday to you. It's good to see how you doing.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
You're doing, and you're doing.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
I have no complaints whatsoever, man, I you seems like
you're having a good time.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
You know, on social media, you're doing a lot of stuff.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Before I got here, I was checking. We got the
final art on doing a crossover. I got a comic
book label called the Secret Stash Press over at dark
Horse Comics, and so we do a comic book called
Quick Stops, which is like offshoot stories from the viewsk universe, Jane, Silent, Bob,
the Clerk's characters and whatnot. All those movies that I
made that were interconnected. These are little stories that you
(06:45):
would never bother to make a whole movie about. So
we're doing a crossover with the folks at Archie. So
it's Archie meets Jane's and I just saw all the
final artwork and match it against like the script, and
it was wholesomely to life. Like a lot of people
right away are like, oh, man, are Jane and something
Bob I'm gonna do?
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Betty Rock is like they're teenagers.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
No, that's not the story, but it wound up being
it's it fits insanely well in the arch universe, Like, yes,
there's definitely moments that push the line and stuff, but
it's shockingly wholesome and it really at the base of
it is a story about how Archie comes to work
at Quick Stuff and it helps Randall get over the
(07:28):
death of Dante. Like it's nuts, man, I can't believe
it worked. The artist absolutely killed it, and we're all
drawn in.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
The Archie style, so you wrote it. Yeah, I wrote
it and then wrote the story.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Yep, that's how you're do it in comics. Well, some
people can write a script and draw.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
It as well tell you, but you come up with
all this stuff my whole story, and it's like no
weed anymore.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
No.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
But I was like, how do I make this work?
And I found a way to work.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
There were enough parallels, like we referenced the Archie characters
and Chasing Amy, like mister Weatherby and Archie and and
Joghead and stuff. So there's like a joke there, a
long running joke that we were kind of associated with
Archie because of that.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
But there's a Veronica in their world, Veronica and our world.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Our guy Dante was always caught between two girls, so
to speak.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
So it kind of worked out.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Now.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
So this morning I got up and I was just like,
like I never saw this coming, Like they reached out
and they're like, you want to do this?
Speaker 3 (08:19):
I was like, how have we not done this? Yeah?
And it just made me so happy. Am I get
rich off it? Absolutely not.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
You get paid like maybe one hundred bucks of page
in comics or something like that, and at you know,
this is forty pages. So it's all right for writing,
but nobody gonna live off that you do it because
the joy. And this morning I sat there and received
all the joy. Writing comics, writing cartoons always has this
delayed benefit effect where you do a thing and then
you go on with your life and then like a
(08:47):
month two months later, somebody presents you with the thing
you wrote and it's all drawn out and it just delivers.
That's what you need to do, is set up cascading
joy throughout your life, particularly in a time right now where.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
There's so little of that.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Kevin Smith is here, find him on Twitter and Instagram
at that Kevin Smith. And where will people be able
to find that? Like how much July? All right, so
that'll be stand So like what is it? Comic book stores?
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Now?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
You've got pre.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Orders going right now and there's like a thousand different versions.
It's fun, but yeah, your whole life is fun.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yeah, it's all your stuff, your creativity and the stuff
you want to do. It's almost as good as our life.
Guess who's gas and guessing if someone's fat or skinny,
and talking about your crap and redneck news.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Kevin Smith is here. Dogma's coming out in theaters.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
We've got a lot to talk about their Dogma movie
dot com for all the info. More. Kevin Smith coming
up here on The Woody Show. I think, all right,
welcome back everybody. Oh it's Friday morning, It is the Show.
(10:01):
Kevin Smith is here very excited to get Dogma backed.
I know because Dogma was one of those movies and
I remember I heard about the controversy before I even
knew what it was.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
And this is like what year, like, come about ninety
year my.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Kid was born.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Okay, so in fact, my kid, we were going to
get my kid baptized and somebody put a brick through
our front window. Yeah, because then when the movie came out,
there were people on the religious folks who were upset
about them.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
They remember, okay, yeah, because this this coincided with an
event in my career where I was living in Saint
Louis at the time. The Pope was coming to town.
Oh no, to Saint Louis, and it was causing all
kinds of traffic problems. It's kind of like with F
one in Vegas, Like everybody in Vegas hates F one
because you know the chaosity that creates getting around.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
In historic St. Louis hates the Holy Father.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Even before traffic, but do they it's it's the most
Catholic city in America.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
I'm just I'm sure you found out in this experience
with Dogma. Anyway.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
So I'm like, look, man, if the Pope really wants
to and I was like ripping on like the you know,
the Pope coming to town. Well, the Secret Service made
us stop the radio station and make sure that I
wasn't going to like inflame anybody.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Yeah, while the Pope and also guests who was in
town right around that time was George Carlin, so he
and he was on stage.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
I went to that show, was at the Fox.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Theater, and and he's making it anyway, so your controversy,
and then I was I was taking off the air
for the two days of.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
The Pope was in town. That's he could be a threat.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
No, there were no threats. They just didn't want me
like riling people up about that.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Threat.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Yeah, that wasn't saying to do anything. It was just
you know, bitching about the traffic. Get him off the air.
So I heard about the controversy with dog when I'm like, oh,
I must see this. This is definitely from a sense
of humor standpoint right down Broadway from me saw the movie.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
What a bunch of cool twists.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Speaking of George Carlin, George Carlin Atlantis, Moore said, of
course everybody else.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
That you have.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
This most star studied it's a great.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
James Allen Bob reboot was the most star study cast.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
And anyway, so you know, dogma great movie, and you
know you'd be able to watch it back at that time,
and then there was this great dark period where you
couldn't get it. And it's because Harvey Weinstein, Yes, the
Harvey Weinstein, he had the rights to it.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Yeah, well, technically what happened was in order for the
movie to come out, Disney hated it. Disney owned Mirrimax
at that time. So Disney was like, you guys got
to get rid of this movie. And this had happened
before a Mirror Max with a couple of films. For example,
there's a movie called Kids.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Oh yeah, and so as a young man, I was like,
you know what, I can probably go to the rest
of my life stt having sex.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Yeah, mirror Max made that movie. Mirri Max was owned
by Disney. Disney was like, you got to get rid
of this movie. It's not a Disney type film. And
so the Weinstein brothers personally bought the movie and then
released it themselves, and they made a bunch of money
with it. So when the dog would controvert happen, and
then Disney, like Michael Eisner, was leaning on Harvey gun
(13:04):
you have to get rid of this movie. You never
should have made it in the first place, and now
you have to get rid of it. So Harvey and
Bob had a model already from what they did with Kids,
where they bought Dogma personally, although I never saw a receipt,
you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, there was no
proof that they actually money changed hands they ever paid
Disney back, which is a point of contention. But in
(13:24):
any event, once they had it, then they licensed it
out first to Lionsgate for theatrical release. This baby lions Gate.
This is like I remember when we hit thirty million,
Lionsgate took out a double page ad going.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
For thirty million.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
This is the company that would go on to make
you know.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Games, Dunger games, franchises and whatnot.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
So there was a time they were a very small company.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
So Lionsgate had a for theatrical Sony or columby TriStar
had it for home video. When you do these things,
they have deals, and those deals eventually laps you. That
probably did a ten year deal or something like that,
as we all know, went through some issues and is
in jail.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
A year ago.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Year and a half ago, we started reaching out, going like,
I wrote a very heartfelt letter about how this is
my fourth movie, and I know you made lots of them,
but this is tied in with my father who's dead,
and it's all about my Catholicism. It's sitting on a
shelf someplace. Can we please have it? It's twenty fifth
anniversaries coming out. I offered two hundred and fifty k.
(14:25):
The lawyer got back to us said absolutely not. So
I wrote another letter and then offered five hundred k.
Lawyer came back said absolutely not. That's about as high
as I can go without reaching out to others who
may be like perhaps I reached out to Benemett. So
I was able to go back and be like, how
about a million bucks? Still told us to know. So
that was it. Six months, eight months go by, I
(14:47):
forget about it because it's all done and stuff. Then
we get a call from these people who are like,
we just bought like ten movies, and we were going
through them and we see one has Ben Affleck in it.
What do you know about this company that bought movies?
Studio didn't buy these movies. What happened was this, I
guess this guy, of course is ever fighting his legal battle,
so he had more bills and he liquidated a bunch
(15:09):
of things that he personally owned. So the way I
heard the story is this his company is not even
a company, it's an investment.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
What do they call those things?
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Vents?
Speaker 4 (15:19):
So they bought a tronsch they called it of movies
that Harvey personally owned. One was Kids, Larry Clark's movie.
One was Fahrenheit nine to eleven Michael mooresecon They did
the same thing with that years later. Six of them
were kung Fu movies because he had been working on
(15:40):
kung Fu stuff with Quentin, so he started buying I
guess Shaw Brothers stuff maybe. And then one was Dogma.
And this whole tranche of films got sold as a
big set for not not we were within spitting distance, yes.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Wow, still all of them.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
One the guy who makes the decision was no.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
It was kind of felt like a real from Hell's
hard I stab at the kind of moment. But whatever.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
So this company was like, we own this now, but
we don't know what to do with it. Do you
want to play with it? I was like, that's all right,
So we did. First thing we did was our due
diligence to make sure that that dude is completely separated.
Because over the years people have been like, hey, I
get your Dogma back. I'm be like, great, man, let's
do it and stuff, and they're like, but a piece
of it goes back to him, and I was like,
(16:33):
I can't and never in a million years, I'd rather
never touch that movie.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
So he's I mean, he's got his own problems. I
doubt he even cares about this at this point.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
So now it's like, oh my god, I get to
play with it again. And it has been wild man, because,
like you got to remember, this happened nineteen ninety nine,
twenty six years ago. There was a Dogma poster, there
was a Dogma trailer, the Dogma marketing story had been written,
and like, now twenty six years later, they're like, here's
your new poster. I was like, oh my God, like
(17:00):
this is phenomenal, Like here's the new trailer, and the
trailer like I know that movie. The trailer made me
want to see the movie where I'm like this, this
movie looks dope, like it's just sold in a modern way.
We could never put the buddy Christ on the poster
back in the day. We were dodging death threats back
now now it's like, well, the image of Jesus pointing
(17:21):
we actually wink him with his thumbs up has been
co opted by so many people.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
That I was like, let's us use it.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
It came from us, like it's all over the internet
and stuff, and he became the center point of the poster.
We have all these famous people who are tiny around
him and Jesus front and center.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Argument. I was like, who is.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
More famous than Jesus?
Speaker 1 (17:40):
They all love them and so it's it's gonna be out,
like people can buy it, you could stream it.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Well, it comes out re releases theater June fifth, everywhere,
so the same way it would like a normal movie.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
But before that was so it's another what you call
the Resurrection premiere.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
It's called well, first there's Dogma the Resurrection Tour, and
then the movie on June fifth, is called Dogma Resurre.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Right, but I'm saying on Easter Sunday. This Sunday, the
tour begins, which I think is hilarious first of all. Also,
by the way, it's for twenty yes, yeah, it's all
coming together.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
So it literally came together in a month and a half.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
I was sitting on Zoom with everybody a month and
a half going, month and a half go going like
Easter is for twenty.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Yeah, and we were all like, let's do it.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
And the folks at Iconic Releasing Man made it happen
in a month and a half.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
NAMC Theaters has been amazing.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
So it's happening in LA at the Grove in Lack.
It off on Sunday for twenty this Sunday for twenty
Easter Sunday, which is perfect. And then after that it's
this Resurrection tour which is hitting a lot of woodies
show cities like, for example, Dallas on April thirtieth, Philadelphia
May fifth, Pittsburgh May twenty third, just some woody show cities.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Then back in LA. You can get all the details.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Just go to dogmamovie dot com.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Listen listening to it as long as you listening, this
is the Hood Show.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
A right, welcome back everybody, It is the Woodie Show.
It's Friday Morning Kevin Smith. This year Sunday the I'm
calling it the resurrection premiere Dogma securely back with Kevin
Smith where it belongs. And it's happening at the Grove
on Sunday, which is Easter Sunday.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Perfect timing. Nice.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
And then after you hit the road doing all the
things around different cities, you know, doing the Q and
A screenings that you do, it all wraps up back
in Burbank May thirtieth.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
We just added at the.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Exactly, man, I expect you to get a new pair
of Hokas for but yeah, right in Burbank May thirtieth.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
So cool. So what is like, what is like, madd
and Ben, what all guys think about it?
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Now?
Speaker 4 (19:51):
Like that's what an interesting question because somebody was like,
what's your guest list for the for the premiere on
on Sunday? And I was like, wow, Scott Moser's coming in.
He was a producer of the movie Laura Greenley. She
was like a line producer, social producer. And they're like, no, no,
I mean like your guest list, and I was like,
(20:13):
who the cast? Like yeah, I was like, I don't
heard from anybody.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
I texted Ben the day that the trailer was going
to drop and I was like, hey man, you got
a second and he was like, he's shooting a movie
right now. He's like, I will tonight. I was like,
I don't even need you tonight. I'm just gonna leave
something here. Watch it at your leisure. Is gonna make
you feel young again. And so didn't hear back, but
I don't take that as like him going like I
(20:40):
hate this.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
He's directing the movie.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
The next morning, Jordan, who's at Jason Mus's wife, she
runs our company. She like shamed me into texting Rock.
She's like, if you if you texted Ben, why wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
You just text Chris Rock?
Speaker 4 (20:54):
So I was like all right, and I reached out
to Rock and I was like, hey man, is this
still you?
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Because it has.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Been for right yeah?
Speaker 4 (21:01):
And uh, I said, is this still you? Rufous because
that's what we played in Dog. He was like, it's
still me, friend?
Speaker 3 (21:06):
How are you?
Speaker 4 (21:06):
And I said I got something to send you? And
I sent him the trailer with the passwords. So you
can watch it.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Never heard back, But again I don't they all they
all holy ghosted. You know, I'm stealing that joke.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
And taking on the road. That's glass right there.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
Yeah, so that's not a complaint, that's not me whining
or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
But everyone's in their own stuff, you know what I'm saying.
And that's something I always remember about.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
My work, is said, what about Alaris?
Speaker 3 (21:34):
I haven't heard from?
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
But again, this isn't.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Like I never here from I haven't heard from Georgia.
I wouldn't have that interesting that that was the way
he came to do in a dream? Yeah you got bad. Yeah,
he can't do in a dream instead of you know,
you gotta do this.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
Yes, you guys shooting promos for the movie at the
AMC at the Grove and they were doing a quality
check on on the new version because his new four
k uppers and stuff like that. So they were running
it in this big theater where we were also shooting,
and we came in just when the George Carlin scene happened,
and my god, he was just absolutely magnificent and.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
He was like the dude who on that movie. That
was like I was Catholic.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
When I started that movie over the movie was over,
I don't think I was Catholic anymore.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
And that was because of George.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
George is like at one point I was like saying,
hey man, so in this scene, you're gonna do this
and blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
You know, it's like that thing in church.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Well for more information, go to dogmamovie dot com. It's
dogmamovie dot com. You'll find all the dates and everything
else there. I'm super happy for because I know it's
such a big deal for you. For got it back
all come see it. We got we got more stuff
with Kevin Smith coming up next.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
He's ourbscole.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Now, all right, welcome back everybody.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
It is the Woody Show. It is all right. I
like that clip. We're gonna use that from now on.
Kevin Smith is here, the one, the only Kevin.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Smith, so delighted to do here as kids, you know
why this is a seven minute ride from my I'm
gonna say it again, and I always say when I
come in and it's never taken up on I would
literally come here.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
I know you say that. You say that all the
time every day. I thought it was fun. You know,
seeing a little bit about what you do. You know,
we're the with the four thirty movie thing just right
down the street. We just did that quick little thing
for your that's your latest movie as of right now.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
That was the Yeah, the last flick Guy come out,
And I've talked about before when I came on the show,
that opening gives me chills.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Number One, I love when a movie starts over, like
the studio logos.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
Yeah, Number two, you set the tone perfectly, man, because
like you understood the assignment.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
I came in and I was like, what do I
need Z one hundred.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Like old school like top forty.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
You started naming them. Oh yeah. You were like, oh
you want.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Him him or Hilly and yeah, dudes, we called them
human new human newman pukers.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
What do you mean? I was like yelling, screaming at that's.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
The term of does anyone puke anymore? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Now it's more of a podcast vibe right where every conversation.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Not on like the on the like the the old
not old. They're not oldie stations anymore, but they play
like a lot of eighties.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
It's not oclock. Yeah exactly exactly.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
But you nailed it, man, and song under it, like
all of that was perfect, and all the references and stuff.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
And he knew better than to show me on camera.
It's like, it's better scene than her moist built for radio.
Speaker 6 (24:29):
Not too long ago, Kevin did fill in shifts at
our sister station and I loved it.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Did a great that was great.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Yeah, I wanted that so badly. I wanted to be
the king of.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
A M Radio Los Angeles basin, but it didn't work
out and it still haunts me to this day.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
You're in better shade, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
The people around the air and I love I love radio, Yeah,
I know you do.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
And the how close it you guys are anyway.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Heart exact heart attack anyway. I I thought it was
I thought it was really fun to get to see
what you do. You come in here and you love
to see and participating in what we do. I thought
it was fun to go and participate and see.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
Time you come to a sad be in it like
on camera. Great, we're still our money fell apart for
we're making Jane Solemn, Bob Stor Wars. We were so
close and then our money which was Canadian fell apart. Yes,
so now it's back to Jordan board to find more money.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
It was just fine. I can't complaining. Man around gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
I'm around, yes, yeah, yeah yeah. So question about I'll t.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
How you began in a Kevin Smith movie. First you're
just a voice. Sure, then you our body? Pretty great one, right,
and we put them together.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Yeah, back to the Dogma thing real because Dogma's coming
back out in theaters June fifth.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Kevin finally got the movie back. It's the big anniversary.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
He's doing the whole thing, the resurrection towards hitting all
these woodies show cities Dallas, Philly, Pittsburgh, of course Los Angeles,
a big premiere, re premiere, new premiere this Sunday, Easter
Sunday for Dogma. Of all the things and all the
complaints and all the controversy that happened when first came out,
was there anything.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
That was scared?
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (26:01):
There like a scary threat. What we were really concerned
about we got it?
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Was it four hundred thousand pieces of hate mail and
three were verified death threats. And one of them I'll
still remember the one that said, and this is me
quoting a letter.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
So how do I put this? Do we need to
bleep it out, no border, we ready, can we bleep
it out?
Speaker 4 (26:23):
And you just standing by, But it was it was
directed at a group of people, so I'm not gonna
do it. I see you did it, but were I
assume it was in but so it said you and
in parentheticals people of the Jewish persuasion.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Okay, but we started a little more all of them.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
Man, you better take that money you stole from us
and start investing in flak jackets because we're coming in
there with shotguns.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Your brothers in christ.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
And too good. For too long, Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
It was terrifying, man. So there was we couldn't open
our mail in the office for like four months. And
sea when we went to Cannes, they installed for our screening.
Uh they installed up installed at the palais metal detectors. Sure,
because there were threats of violence and stuff. But the
weirdest one, and I still remember this and tell this often,
(27:18):
we got to the New York Film Festival premiere of
the movie. So it's Alice tully Hall. New York Film
Festival is a huge event back East every year, and stuff.
We brought our kid, Harley was just born, she was
an infant, and we put these little angel wings on her,
so she dressed like a little angel, still chubby cheeked
and stuff like just this like barely two months old.
(27:39):
So we come out of the car and there's a
thousand people lined up all around the theater holding statues
of Mary, praying the Rosary at Us, weaponizing prayer like
at Us and stuff peaceful. Nobody liked pushing or shoving,
but there were a lot of bodies, a lot of
people not happy that we were there. So we go
(27:59):
in and my plan is I tell the publicist, Gina Gardini.
I was like, I'm gonna go into it, but I'm
gonna bring the kid out because she got the wings on.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
It's gonna be adorable.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
And Gina's looking at me all weird, and I was
like what, and she goes, I just need to remind
you that anybody could buy a ticket for the screening.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
And I was like, I know, that's why I sold out.
It's awesome.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
She goes, no, anybody can buy a ticket for the screening.
This to happen, and I was like, oh, yeah, I
guess you're right. I was like, what's your point. She's like,
you're about to step on stage holding your baby. Yeah,
are you saying don't do that? She's going Kevin, I
would feel remiss to not at least mention it, considering
(28:35):
the climate around this movie, And I was like, I mean,
you know, do I I was scared, but I was like,
if I could go out there without the kid, that's
like letting the terrorists win. So I went out with
the kid. But I've been lying if I said I
wasn't using her like a human shield.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
That's the kids.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Four.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Hey, everybody, here's the kid in the balcony, and that's
the kids.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
I do.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
I do all of this blasphemy for her, all these
things I do in life I do for my family.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Yeah, he loves her.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
I was like, well, but also at the same time,
because she's serving a dual purpose.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
As scary as that kind of stuff is, I mean, like,
what what great marketing, especially for a movie like that.
You know more that group gets pissed off, like, the
better it was for the people who would love your movie, Yes.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
And no, like that was the thing I always felt
did the movie at disservice was people was like, oh, man,
I hear this movie gives it to the church.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
And when you see Dogma it's actually a pretty reverent film.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Yeah, no, it's great. It's pretty pro faith. So I
know there are a bunch of people out there who
were like, it's like Monty Python's Life of Brian. But
it wasn't like My Life of Brian went after their subject.
Mine was more about.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Like curious like that would be.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
It was written by a guy who was still kind
of believing in it.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
Like Carlin said to me when we were on set,
like at one point he was like, you really still
believe in all this, don't you? And I was like, yeah,
you raised Catholic, you don't. And he goes, I'm smarter
than that. Yeah, And that was like the beginning and
the end of my faith and stuff. So the movie
like came with issues and so much so that when
it was all over, I was like, next movie I make.
(30:12):
I just want to make a movie where like nobody's
mad at me, where nobody can follow the next one
Jane Solem, Bob straight back, nice and then we glad
went after or something.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
They're easier to deal with than pissed off Catholics, that's
for sure.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Way it's so weird because I never in my entire
career I've never courted controversy, Like I've never been the
guy that's like, let's poke at the establishment. But some
of the stuff I've done has people in a weird way,
and I just assume in my head and heart that
it's aged out of that. So so far this Dogma
re release has been relatively like none of the problems.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Have last time, different time. I hope it stays that way.
I really do. I'd be so happy.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Well, go see the re release June fifth in theaters
and then also it'll be I'm sure soon after a
pretty close so the streaming in that.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Stream and we got a nice steal book that's becoming.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
That'll be awesome, all right, So go to dogmamovie dot
com from Orformation on that.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
All right.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
We said the very beginning of your visit here today
that Greg had a question for you. This is something
I believe that we did talk about on the air
about a week or two ago. No one can answer
it just in general. It's not about you specifically, but you.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
You're the one this mask.
Speaker 6 (31:22):
Yes about this, and my question sounds so stupid, But
when you have a heart attack, yes, does it hurt?
And do you think somebody could have one without even.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Knowing one hundred percent. Number one, not a dumb question.
Number two.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
I can't speak to all heart attacks, and I'm sure
there are those that do hurt, but I had one
where I was not hurt. How it manifested was I
was sweating profusely, but I was heavier then, so I
always sweated, so I didn't notice that.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
I know that feeling and never felt pain. Wow. Never.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
Even when the doctor at the emergency room was like,
you're having a massive was like, how do you feel?
Speaker 3 (31:58):
I was like, if you'll find he goes.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
You're doing it wrong. We've been doing wrong. There's supposed
to be a lot of pain you have the massive
heart attack, so no pain. How how heavy were you
at your heaviest?
Speaker 3 (32:07):
My heaviest was three.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
I was always like, if I ever weigh my erico,
that's bad. And I went past. It was three two three,
and I eventually hit three thirty five.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Three thirty five.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
So when you when you had the heart attack, you
were three, It was three hundred, three hundred because I'd
stopped sugar for a while, so I dropped and what
do you know?
Speaker 2 (32:24):
Like is this your is this like last time? I
weighed crazy.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Skinny five, like are you feeling okay? Like, oh my god,
like right now. I always say like if somebody said
to me like, oh.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
My god, don't look well. You look you don't look well,
you look so sick.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Yeah, if anyone's ever like you look gaunt, I'm like,
thank you, I do that.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
How do I do it again?
Speaker 1 (32:42):
I always longed to look on you stop feel fat though,
sometimes like people talk about that.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
If I were to just robe like you would have
zero thought in either direction about oh this guy is
he was?
Speaker 2 (32:56):
But do you still feel like you're yes?
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Because you know I remember even when I lost a
ton of weaight, at one point I was two hundred
and I was one hundred and eighty five pounds after
being two hundred and sixty pounds, and I still felt
like I was too sixty.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
Like here, I I still buy to Excel underwear yea,
and it hangs off me and my wife is like,
you look disgusted.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
You look like a little old man.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
I was like, really big my wife.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
By new underwear, just by smaller.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
I was like, the moment I commit with smaller size
is when you're gonna go.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
Starting at the back.
Speaker 6 (33:28):
I don't know if it's false memory syndrome, But didn't
you say that one of your concerns about the whole
heart attack thing was having to get naked in front
of him?
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Yes, see them they.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
Were trying to get me to get my hockey jersey
off me in the o R.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
And I was like, holding it down.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
That's a belly thing, not a penis thing. Right, it's
all because.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
If you got the belly, you don't got the.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Experience. I've been told that's so true. That's also true.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
Ye.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Well, Kevin, it's great to see you, excellency and so happy.
Uh the dog with thing is great because I know
how important that's been to you for.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Such a life.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Yeah, and watching I said on social media, seem like
you're in a really good place, seeming really happy. Things
are going well, and I'm happy for you. Above ground man,
Kevin Smith. Everybody year back your kids, all right, it
is the only show. Well you will beat right back.
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