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Are we doing this? We're doingthis. It's the show, The Woodie
Show, all right, Welcome backeverybody. We are the Woody Show,
as you're all very much. WhereAlter Ego twenty twenty four is happening,
Paramore, The Black Keys, BushSome forty one, the nineteen seventy five,
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thirty Seconds to Mars, Yellow Card, Lovely the Band, and more.
And we are lucky to have oneof the one of the front men
from one of these great bands instudio with us right now. Mystery guests,
we please say hello, Hello,I know exactly who that are.
Yeah, guess first, right,Yeah, Yeah, that's Gavin Rosta from
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Bush Davin. Hi, how areyou yo? It's a it's a.
It's great to have you here.Man. You were one of my first
ever big interviews in radio. Great. How did it go? You know
what? I was so? Yeah? You were great. I was a
nervous man. I was working inPortland, Oregon at the time and for
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a station K and r K andyou guys were playing a big show and
you were super, super nice andsuper cool and that was a big moment
for me. Like you always rememberyour first right, Yeah, my first
big band interview was Bush and youand Nigel back in like nineteen ninety seven.
I'm sure Gavin remembers all of that. He does it. That was
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my first big interview. Yeah,I was Woody. Oh my god,
it's Woody. Well, welcome,And a couple of things going on,
just so you know, besides Alterego with Bush, the Greatest Hits Album
nineteen ninety four to twenty twenty three, that's going to be out on November
the tenth. Pre Orders are goingon now. But the new single Nowhere
to Go But Everywhere that is streamingnow everywhere. And they've got a North
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American tour which is on October fourteenththat starts in Orlando and goes all across
the country. We just just goto the website. You have all the
dates there. No matter what cityyou're in, there's got to be one
that's coming around here close. Solike on these shows that you're going to
be doing, is this really gonnakind of be like a Greatest Hits tour?
I mean, I guess I alwayswere like terrified at doing the Greatest
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Hits because I love having new songsand keep moving forward and you get a
sense. I always thought it waslike a Swan song. People like,
okay, ceiling or moving by,So I didn't like. I was like,
no, no, but it's beenreally amazing to put it together and
people's reactions, and so I thinkthat, yeah, I've been reluctant to
put it out, but now thatsetlist will have to definitely reflect that loaded
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it'd be kind of fun to justplay it where it's just because there was
still four that we left off there, so there's going to be even a
Deluxe Greatest Hits. There's a newgenre. We're doing the Deluxe Greatest Hits.
Four new songs on the Greatest Hits. One of the four songs that
were hits that don't make on thattwenty six what didn't make the records.
It was like a warm machine madlove come down to a serene machine head
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everything then between us something like that. So no, So I don't know.
Yeah, there's one song that youwant to play at every show?
What is that? And of allthe regular songs on the setlist, what's
this the one song if it wasup to you, that you would never
play again, just for whatever reason, not that you don't love all your
songs. But okay, he waslike, oh, my god, yeah
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again, like really, well,I wait, I go, You've fallen
a little bit out of love withthem. I haven't played Swallowed for a
bit. Is that on the GreatestHits album? Yeah, they'd be a
mutiny. But yeah, but thenI play on a play again, I
like it again. Yeah. It'sjust like you just feel paranoid because you
always like, I got to writesomething better, so I gotta keep keep
pushing forward. And I saw Ido something and I feel really good about
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it, and then I go,now I played Chemicals and I hadn't played
that for a while, or Ipladn't play really Fly for ages, and
then I played the other day.Oh yeah I did. I did a
show with Corey from slit Knot andCorey Taylor. Corey Taylor and we're doing
with Christis show and he goes tothey go, what's the best song you
wish you'd written to Corey and hegoes reedy Fly. I was like,
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that's got to go back on thecell. Put that. The next night,
I was like, what am Ithinking? I'm an idiot, idiot?
So many big songs, so Ithat went right, and so none
of them, none of them getI don't understand things. You know,
some people get really annoyed to theirhits. Some people like they hate the
hits. I never got that.It's just like sort of hate and your
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mom or something, your family.It doesn't make sense. We're not a
band, but like you know,we're up here doing the show every day.
It's like, man, there's aguy. If you love it,
we'll do it every day. Yeah. There's a guy that I saw recently
that he remained nameless because I thoughtit was really uncool. He goes playing
his set and there's these unknown songsand he goes and here's the one that's
paid the rent, big hit.Yeah, yeah, everybody loves its,
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like, oh, it's so sadsongs. Great, Well, I'm not
going to say it is a goodtime. Josh Queens of the Stone Age
yea to him. He did aninterview with one of our friends, Striker,
who has his podcast Tuna on Toast, and he said in that interview
is like, man, he goesbecause I know every time I go play
a show, we're gonna play noone knows because the fans love that song
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and that's what they want to hear. And he said the bands and the
artists or whatever who don't do that. He called them sea words. He
is the very strong Yeah, letme go back to the uh Burke Krusher.
By the way, it is adear friend of the Woody Show.
We love Bert. He's a greatfriend of ours. We hosted his movie
premiere that when he just had thatthe machine that came out. Dude,
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I have never been more uncomfortable forsomebody. And maybe because I know the
guy too, And when he hadyou and Corey on his Something's Burning podcast
and he said, so you've everbeen married or he said are you married?
And Gavin says, uh, Iwas married, and Burt goes to
who, No, I was nevermore uncomfortab ball. That's my question edited
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in there too. I Mean,the thing is is that you go on
those shows and you get you getdone a couple of times, but you
have to get done a couple oftimes. That is not funny, right,
So I love it. It's Iwas laughing my head off and I
said right off for that segment.I was like, don't cut that out.
And then they got me so andsomebody else and then I you know,
you get them back. It justthat's what it is and like you
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gotta have a good you go.You know you could be a laugh by
the way, Gavin broad donuts,I know, yeah, I really want
you to, like you know howmany You're way too big and famous to
bring us no matter what. Yeah, speaking speaking of food though, like
I'm sorry, Greg, I wasgonna say, speaking of famous And I
asked this to somebody else and Ican't remember who I asked it to,
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but I'm always dying to know.Hypothetically, you run into a musician that
you haven't met before. I mean, I'm sure you've met Dave Grol,
but let's just say Dave Grol.Do you guys act like you already know
each other or is it like heyGavin, Hey Dave or you know something
that I was talking about this withsomeone yesterday that like dentists have a like
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a language, so musicians we havewe totally understand the process and understand things
that other people won't know about thekind of minute shi the kind of real
details of our life. Right,So yeah, there's a shorthand. But
also, like the other thing,that's a bit weird if people know you
with and they you're famous to theirdis cebrity to them. There's always relaxed
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kind of social interaction already, familiarity, familiarity exactly that people feel relaxed.
They don't know, you're not goingto pop out and be someone else crazy,
right, So so yeah, there'sa shorthand that comes with that,
for sure. It's so interesting.I'm still stuck on food over here.
Okay, sorry, because I heardthat you're launching a cooking show. Really,
yeah, you been working on I'man Idiot? Why? Yeah,
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Hey, little John's got a homeand decorated on TV. Why can't you
have a cooking Yeah? Yeah,sure, we could maybe do a collaboration,
be able to kitchen for me.Yeah. I was looking for things
to do. I don't have toleave home. I've got so many kids
in La at home that I haveto go away so much for touring,
And I thought, how smart wouldit be to create things that you don't
have to leave home for? Andthe drag of it is is that I
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do a clothing line see of Sound, which is doing just starting to doing
really good, just coming out andtrying to do this cooking show, which
is like rock Star Kitchen chronicles.Is it like tour bus cooking or kind
of stuff for you're making it,like make bougie food that's tast really good,
looks really good, bougie home cookand then just sit and like apply
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people with alcohol and just ask somequestions. It's a great stream, right,
I'm like trying not to pass outright now. It's super straightforward wine
and bougie food. Okay, inviteus over. Yeah, down. So
we shot to two episodes and nowI'm going to start in January. Well,
where can you see it? Well, that's what we're just doing the
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deal now. And so there's someinternal stuff going on because we have some
big Israeli partners, for example Stupid, so they're a little busy, a
lot of tragy, so heavy,more important things going on right now.
They can take the back burner that'son the cooking show. See that was
that was a cooking thing. Therewas the cooking. Yeah. Gavin Rossdale
from Bush is here. Bush willbe at Alter Ego twenty twenty four along
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with Paramour and lot Ups insane,right, I mean it's pretty good.
Paramore, the Black Keys some fortyone. By the way, they're like
on their farewell going around. Thisis this is going to be it for
them for a while. I'm surethey're going to come back to make huge
money at some hey remember US festivalyears from now. But there they want
to go do other things, butthey're going to be playing Alter Ego the
nineteen seventy five thirty Seconds to Mars, Yellow Card, Lovely the Band,
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and a whole bunch more. It'shappening Saturday, January thirteenth the Honda Center
in Anaheims. That's, uh,you still living in Orange County? I
still am. Yeah, Okay,so that's I think now I never left.
I when you drive yourself? WhenI drove there, when I got
there, when I first got theretwenty five years ago, I figured I
couldn't leave. Yeah, Now,when you drive yourself to the show,
or do you get somebody to dothat for you? Driving myself to the
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show, that feels a bit likethat's that's that stops the fun? Yeah,
fun stuff. Yeah. What kindof what kind of car do you
drive? I have? I havea Range Drover English, but I do
like my I have so many kidsthat I've got sort of a big SUV
for them, and I like drivingthat because yeah, I asked that question
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because we had Dave Grohlan here onetime, and he was telling a story
about how he saw these guys anduh, they noticed that he was there.
He saw these two guys in thecar wash, saw Dave at the
car wash, and he heard themlike taking bets on which car was his,
and it totally like flipped them outwhen it was the mini van.
So Dave Grohl drove the mini vanyeah, to the car wash, and
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these guys like Nocker minivan, that'sright, yeah, yeah. And he
wasn't lying because there's been videos onsocial media driving it. I once had
one of those years ago when mykids was small, and we went to
someone's birthday party somewhere with the kids, and when I got out of the
car, he came up to meand asked before pictures nordogos, and they
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said, we weren't sure it wasyou because we still space. That's cool.
I was like, hey, what'swrong with that? You know?
Well, that's just so that someone'sgonna be cool man, you know exactly,
just like a regular regular dude.I thought you were Gavin's problem.
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All right, Welcome back, everybody. Yeah, it is the Woody Show.
Gavin Rossdale from Bush is here anddude as a big fan of cooking
and food and everything else. Andyou've lived in Socow now for so long,
Like, what are you like whenyou're on the road and you're touring
everywhere and you think about going home. Are there any like in particular food
spots that like are must like youas soon as you get home? You
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want to you want to get thereas soon as you can. I'm still
reading for when you went. You'rea big fan of when you come back
And I was like, what youwent? Cooking? Cooking? I got
lost. I was like all right. I was like, wow, it's
really relaxed at this station. Seewhere he's going there? Yeah? Yeah,
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Greg, Yeah, and Greg anyhow, my bad my bag and I've
got a terrible Yeah, I've gota terrible brain. But my brain was
put me on red. This isa trap. This isn't trapman, you
know what? Maybe you are andwe went and we wouldn't like where your
go to food spots around so Cal? Well, So Cal? I think
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that, uh. I think loveup here where I live. I love
PUTTITOI that French restaurant because I loveChef Ludo. I like Pikito mass Oh
yeah, I kind of like that. We got one of those right down
the street here in Feeling for that. That's and the there's a few Japanese
places. I like the clean noodle, Clean Noodles, and I discovered it
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recently at this one place down Matsuhisa. This mushroom soup. God, I've
heard of it. You feel likeyou're in Japan. I love Japan.
I've heard enough about Japan from Menace. I want to get a different I
want to get a different perspective.He goes to Japan that ends up like
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a KFC. It's like, oh, I'm here in seven eleven. He
takes pictures of that seven eleven.The food is incredible, Gavin, What
is so amazing? What what madeyou fall in love with Japan? Their
attention to detail everything is incredible,and they've they've just sort of mastered everything
from Italian food, French food.They just taken all this information and they
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have their own incredible history of theirown So I love the whole thing,
that whole wild cooking that. Ijust love everything about Japan, including the
seven elevens, because the eggs andthe the rice vinegar and the soy sauce
correct on the seven eleven all theway to Japan and go to KFCC is
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big on I think Christmas Day,Yeah, it is Christmas Day is they
have in Japan. It's k fC and McDonald's. You have a month
ahead of time for you know,just the simple just the way they do
stuff in fashion, there is theclose, incredible and stuff. A parenting
question, what's the best stage?I've heard different things from different people.
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You have kids in you know,every stage you know of of their development.
What do you think because people keeptelling me like, oh, no,
one thing that's better, and what'sthe best one? Right? Well,
the one thing that people should alwaysbe aware of, and it's really
true, and I was told thisearly on, is that nothing lasts.
No stage lasts. And so themore time depends on the stage that could
be pretty great. Right, Themore more time you spend with them,
and the more less uptight you getabout them, because it doesn't you know,
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obviously you have does some disciplines suffof that, but without getting frustrated
at them. It's so such awaste of time because it's so precious the
time. It's just incredible because everynew stage is something incredible. But then
you suddenly remember, oh my god, we lost that stage. I remember.
Give you one example one of myfirst son, and it was really
great is his room was used tobe in the room with us, and
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then it was in his own room. There's a big dealer. But the
first time that I walked into intohis room, there's a little corridor of
about ten feet from from where thebedroom was the first time that he had
got out of his crib, andhe walked through and just standing there like
something out of the shining. Iwas like, ah, it moves.
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I was like, I wasn't readyfor that stage. That was beautiful,
very moment, But I was scaredof him because I hadn't first seen him
get out of somewhere walked towards myThat was a deep moment on guess I
was a little scared all that one. The universe has a way of leading
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you to where you're supposed to be. That's the moment you're supposed to be
there. The Woody Show. Allright, welcome back. It is the
Woody Show. Gavin Rossdale from BushIt's here Planning Alter Ego twenty twenty four,
Taramore Black Heyth some forty one,The nineteen seventy five thirty seconds to
Mars Yellow Card Lovely Demand in moreAnaheim, California, the Honda Center Saturday,
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January thirteenth, hosted by Yours TrulyThe Woody Show. That's right,
yeah and uh yeah. And alsoBush's tour, the North American Tour Getting
Underweight November fourteenth, that starts inOrlando, makes its way around the country.
They got a new single, Nowhereto Go but Everywhere. Also the
the Greatest Hits Album nineteen ninety fourto ninethe or nineteen twenty three. Yeah,
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the nineteen twenty three, they gobackwards. Oh good for one hundred
nineteen ninety four to twenty twenty three. It's Bush's Loaded. The Greatest Hits
Album. That's November tenth. That'llbe out. We were talking a little
bit about that before the break.Pre Orders are live now. Fun fact,
Gavin and I share a birthday October. Yeah, that's so cool.
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You already know this as somebody whowas born on the thirtieth of October.
Very few cool people born October thirtyto the people have other cool birthday pals.
I have you, we were born, Yeah, I have you and
I have the fonds. Henry Winkler. Yeah, I remember that's a dog.
Yeah, it's friend Murphy Jensen,the legendary tennis player. Okay,
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take your he's really into tennis.Okay. How do you feel about pickleball?
I mean, kind of taking someshine away from tennis. Yeah,
you hate it. It feels likethe kind of crazy golf of golf.
And I don't like golf, butI don't like to me, it's it's
I see a lot of people lovingit, and that's a great thing.
It's just it's just pure, likeyou know, you ski or snowboard,
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you know what I mean. Ijust I feel like a purist on that
stuff. So I'm into tennis.But a lot of people loving it,
so that's a great thing. Andthey say something weird like people play racket
sports like live weird amounts of timelonger than any people that don't. It's
all it's all the stress you putyour body through, the stress movements that
we used to think like five yearsago, oh that's really bad for us.
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And now we're all like, oh, we know about red light,
we know about all these things.And actually, mighty Chondria are happy if
we don't starve ourselves and if wedo ice therapy, icepar starve ourselves.
So you put your body in shockby doing things that are shocking to your
body. If you'd rather than beingsedentary and sitting with like, you know,
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fast food on your couch, that'swhy the whole thing you break up.
You keep your body lean and mean. See I'm sitting here, not
because you're looking right at me.I'm sitting here nodding a lot. But
you know you wouldn't think about it. You wouldn't think a boy looking at
me. But I did play tennislike growing up, and I loved it.
I love I played and I actuallywas pretty decent at it. And
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the thing that makes sense, canI read a lot about it working out?
You can get ripped by reading aboutit or thinking about it or talking
about it. I'd be I'd lookbetter than you. I would. But
you know it's a lot of that. I've saved so many workout videos on
Instagram that I've never gone back to. Let me run again. Yeah,
but like it's that short burst,high intensity stuff they say is really good.
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Right, So that makes sense foryou know tennis or those those racket
sports and Roy, how old areyou going to be this year to eight
fifty eight. Wow, you lookgreat, you really do. You are
the goal. It's all the tech. Yeah, But like dude, being
a rock star, being a goodlooking guy, your whole life, Like,
do you have any insecurities? I'mriddled with that, good question?
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Yeah, yeah, mad question,Like am I not human? I think?
Actually a famous, famous rock star, good looking guy. I'm built
on madness and fear, you know, yeah, yeah, like the fear
of what like, fear of failinglike that. It's a big thing for
me. The fear of not fulfillingmy own potential, the fear of of
not not reaching my goals, youknow, that certain stuff. It's not
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it's not. I'm not a perfectionist, like everything has to be perfect,
but I have to be headed inthe right direction, yeah, to do
stuff. So I think it's interestingtalking to people who so many people look
up to and they think, youknow, everybody's got this, everybody's got
a perfect life besides them, right, they see these famous people, Oh
man, their life, it's gotto be so easy. And I'm always
interested to find out. Like,you know, it makes no sense when
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you think of it, really honestly, Like you think it looks someone like
the one of the greatest men weever had, Grace sas Anthony Bourdain.
Yeah, oh yeah, coolest job. Who wouldn't want to have dinner with
him, who want to be hisfriend? Who wouldn't have him over their
house and be great friends with him? I know that Josh ham was friends
with him from the Queens of theStone Age, Yeah, you know.
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And and he took his own life. So yeah, there's the indication.
And if anything, nowadays it's areally healthy dialogue about mental health. We
never used to have and so weyou know, rock music and the stuff
that we did, it's all builtwith all those issues in it and pre
therapy, depression and and that sortof alienation stuff. And now you see
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that it really is a massive,crazy problem. Yeah, you know,
I think it's an incredible thing thateveryone talks about it so much more is
that your therapy like through music orI think you actually like I have the
coach therapy. I have done it. I was life coaches sounds so does
sound imagine like I'm going to bea life coach. You gotta believe,
you gotta believe in yourself to bea life coach. I know somebody who
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is, and I mean, she'sa really cool chicken everything, but like
you have exactly, I don't knowbecause like sometimes her life is a just
confidence is the main main thing Iknow you can of fear. Does somebody
of your calibers still get stage fright? Like I will be nervous on this
show because it's really great to beback at you know, do it doing
that show. So yeah, thosebig events with other and mainly the biggest
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one is like doing like when afterBowie died and I sang they had his
alumni did a whole night of shows, and so I did I'm Afraid of
Americans and with the original band,and then my heart was I was in
my maud. I couldn't even speak. I ran out of the building when
I finished the two nights. Thesecond I enjoyed it. And then I
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went did the Lincoln Park thing forChester the benefit after he passed, and
I sang one of their songs whichwas so leave out all the rest,
which is when my time comes,forget the wrongs I've done. Oh my
god, leave out all the It'sjust like I was just didn't want to
mess it up for the fans,for him, for his family, so
those times it's like I just can'teven speak. You know, it's crazy.
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I heard a story, you know, that you told long ago in
some interview about like in your earlydays of Bush or just being a musician,
Like the thing that held you backthe most of the feedback that you
got from you know, these people, it was about your voice. I
didn't think that you had a goodvoice, which is crazy, right,
Like when you think about all thatyou've accomplished and you're known for having like
one of the most unique iconic voices, especially of the nineties era rock and
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all like that, Yeah, Ithink that it's Yeah, it's just how
it goes, isn't it? Likeyou're there? Isn't as that lying at
the Grace Jones on that record shedid with Trevor Horn where you use your
defects, then you're going to bejust use your faults, use your defects,
then you're going to be a stop. Did you get in your head
about that, like or like,what do you do when people tell you
that? Did you try to changeyour voice or try to do something different
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or you just keep keeping with whateveryou were already doing. I was so
stupid. I just kept going Ithought, well, you don't, you
know, just because you don't thinkit's good enough today, it doesn't not
mean it's not gonna be good enoughnext week. And I they it was
the easiest thing, was yeah,to criticize my voice or my stage presence
or something that wasn't good on stage. I was just learning and growing up
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and maybe did a bad show ina pub with like broken beer bottles flying
past your head. You know.It's like, I don't know what it
was, but I think fondly ofthose people because they helped me. You
know, they helped me, theyfed my hunger. Is it also true?
And I don't know if I don'tknow if this is real or not.
I heard this and it kind ofseems hard to believe, although you
hear crazier stories about how songs getwritten and whatever. Sure, the first
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song that you wrote on your ownwas come Down. Yeah, that's that's
the first song. Well, whathappens is I'd written songs for a number
of years to other bands where Isang, and then the second matters into
other bands. The second band hedidn't want me to play guitar. To
play guitar, I wasn't very goodI'm not really that good now, but
I'm going bet I wasn't that goodthen and so enjoy So he didn't let
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me play guitar, which is kindof legit, but at the same time,
it's it stopped a whole well,it stopped a whole slew of songs,
obviously, because I wrote from thenwhen I so when he left me
and the band broke up with theband disbanded, and I forced myself to
unlock the magic of songwriting. Andthe first song I did right was come
Down. Wow, that's crazy.That's really cool, man. Could you
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hear about it? I mean,knowing bares, It's not like it's it's
been ever since. It's not likeyou were selling insurance until that moment and
you sat down for the very firsttime you ever held you had been doing
music, and I'd written decent songs. I hadn't written theming nothing for Bush.
I'd written nothing for Bush, allright. So that's when people say
when you're the second record or lookyour first album is like, oh,
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it's easy, because that's like twentyyears of songs since you were like eight
years old. I was like,no, no, no, it was
a year and a half of writing. So I never had that issue whenever
I go to write a new recordand we're like, oh my god,
how could I ever do it?I've never done it. From this way,
I always did this. But thereare first albums, man, then
there's sixteen Stones that is yeah,that's an iconic album. I mean listening
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all these great so while because Ialways remember writing it. The only reason
I talk over you, I apologizeis because way more I know, because
you inspire me, because it's likeI can tell you exactly what's going on
in my head when I was writingthose songs, and how I was walking
around the with my dog playing onecassette thing of the riff of machine heads
to get to get the words orto get any metal to go with it.
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So I have all the other sideof the story where I was on
a rote glycerine in my bedroom oppositemy brown chest of drawers tape recorder on
the top, and it just wentand it came out so quick as it
won two goes, one go thewhole song, and I was like,
I was convinced I'd rip someone off. And I was like playing it to
people, where have you heard Ishould write this song? Sounds too adult.
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Yeah too. At least it wasn'tlike in a diarrhea medication jingle or
something like that. You know,it makes something really embarrassing. Oh my
god. Yavin Rossdale from Bush ishere Alter Ego twenty twenty four, Paramore,
Bush, Black Keys, Some fortyone, the nineteen seventy five,
thirty Seconds to Mars, Yellow Card, Lovely the Band and more, Saturday,
January thirteenth of the Hona Center inAnaheim. Capitol One cardholder presale begins
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next Tuesday. This the twenty fourthgeneral on sale next Friday, the twenty
seventh. You Got Bushes Loaded theGreatest Hits Album nineteen ninety four to twenty
twenty three. Uh, that's gonnabe out November tenth. Pre Orders are
live now. But their new singleNowhere to Go But Everywhere, that is
streaming everywhere right now. And makesure you go catch Bush. If you
can't see him at Alter Ego,you go see him on their North American
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tour, which gets underway November fourteenthin Orlando. The always nice kind and
as we learn today, humble chefhimself. Yes, Gavin Rossdale, thank
you, dude, thank you somuch for coming and we're looking forward to
seeing it Alter Ego. Guys,all Right's the one show we'll be right
back side next