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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Today on the show, we have Manny Muno's speaking with
Pamela Wilson and they are talking about caring for your
aging parents. And Pamela Wilson is a well renowned caregiving
expert involved in the aging, caregiving and health fields for
more than two decades. And also on the show today
we have our friend Brady and our friend Whitney Reynolds
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back for another episode, another empowering episode of Whitney's Women.
So let's kick off the show.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
It's a difficult situation many of us have dealt with,
many of us are dealing with, or many of us
will deal with caring for our aging parents, grandparents, other
loved ones and all the questions and difficulties that come
with them. Let's bring in an expert to discuss some
of those issues. Pamela Wilson is a well renowned caregiving
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expert involved in aging caregiving in the health fields for
more than two decades. Her website is Pamela Dwilson dot com. Pamela,
I appreciate.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
The time, my pleasure.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Let me start off with this because it's often one
of these two key issues where we first find ourselves
confronting our aging parents, either having to have that talk
with a loved one about taking away their car keys
or having that even more difficult conversation about the fact
that they are no longer able to live on their own.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
It's so difficult. You know, a lot of parents may
see this coming and a lot of times what they
worry is, you know, people telling them that they're failing right,
you can't drive anymore, you can't live alone. And so
when kids approach it, it's really approaching it from a
position of Hey, mom and dad, I'm noticing these things
are happening. Do you think you need any help? Or
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start asking questions before you start telling, because once you
start telling, they can shut down and then really become
in a place where they're refusing and they're digging in
their heels and they're saying, you know, I'm not leaving
this house, you know, unless I'm on my two feet.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yeah, you know, So what are the best ways to
approach that conversation so it isn't confrontational.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
For example, so it would be, hey, mom or dad,
I'm noticing that you need a little help around the house.
Can I help? What what might we be able to
do together? So you kind of make it a you know,
word doing this and I'm noticing it, But are you
noticing the same thing? You know, I want to make
sure that you know you have the help that you need.
You also could start with a story, say, hey, mom
or dad, you know my friend, Oh my gosh, you
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know this happened with their mom and dad and oh
what a nightmare. You know, I'd like to know what
you want to do about your your health or about
this issue. Can you tell me?
Speaker 2 (02:51):
It's one of the difficult things because not only are
you having to all of a sudden kind of switch
rolls right, all of a sudden, you're the caregiver to
the parent that has always been your caregiver, but you
almost have to one up them in terms of saying no,
this is the way we're going to go. If they refuse, well, you.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Know, one up. Being sometimes works, sometimes doesn't work, I always.
So here's what we don't see. So as a caregiver,
we're stressed out right, we're saying, oh my gosh, our
parents need all this, it's going to take time. But
what we don't see is what our parents are going through. Right.
They're losing their health. They can't you know, they can't
stand up out of a chair. They're worried about all
these things. They're stressed and anxious. They don't want to
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tell the kids because they think the kids are going
to take over. So it's really both sides. Coming in
heavy handed as a child usually does not work. You've
got to have some degree of empathy and some compassion
and say, well, what's going on with you? How do
you feel about this?
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Right?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Gosh, it must be really hard to be old and
not be able to do all the things you used
to be able to do.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Tell me about that, and I guess there's two different approaches,
also depending on if a parent is beginning to fail
mentally or if a parent is beginning to fail physically,
Because if it's physical, then they probably are starting to
understand they need more help. If it's mental, they might
not realize it at that point.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
The mental is really really hard because parents and sometimes
kids don't even catch it right. Parents can hide a
lot of things that the kids don't see them very often.
But if you are a child and you are noticing
that your parent is forgetful, what you wanted to say is, hey,
let's go to the doctor because maybe it could be
you know, maybe a medication you're taking is causing this forgetfulness.
You know, until we really know, we don't know how
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to help you. So you don't say, hey, you've got
Alzheimer's or demensions, right, you say, let's go figure out
what's going on. Let's go see the doctor.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Approaching it from the caregivers standpoint, which I know is
part of your expertise, getting to that point where you're
realizing that you need to have that conversation. The amount
of stress that that has to set off on people
realizing what they're probably about to undergo in terms of
beginning to take care of their parents. How do you
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prepare yourself mentally to become a caregiver.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
So for that, and let's just assume it's a family situation.
Hopefully you have siblings right that you're talking to about
this saying hey, you know, our dad seem to like,
you know, be starting to need help. Talk amongst your
siblings and say, okay, what can we all do? You
know if I can you know, stop over on Saturdays
and you live in town, can you come over on Monday? Right?
So you kind of talk amongst the siblings to even
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see if you have any support, because if you dealt
that's going to raise your stress level. You know, if
the siblings are saying, hey, we can help, then you
go to your parents and you present it. But if
it really is only you to manage your stress, you've
got to have a plan to talk to your parents
and not just like a conversation, but mom or dad,
let's create a plan. Where do you want to live,
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who do you want to be your caregiver? How much
money do you have? So you got to look at
this as a kind of almost as like a business
plan if you work, a lot of people at work
have a business plan and you have goals. So what
are the goals for your parents? How are they going
to pay for it? Are they going to stay home
or are they going to have caregivers? You got to
kind of from a bigger picture more factual place that
can lower your emotions and your anxiety.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
It almost feels like that's a conversation we need to
have long before we get to the point where we
need to implement it though, kind of like having a
living will or something like that, which which so many
of us don't even have until it's too late.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
In a perfect world, these conversations would happen today before
anything happens, so there's no emotion attached to it. But
the problem is we're so busy we don't have time.
Something happens, and then we react to it right then
we're emotional.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
We're speaking with Pamela Wilson, well renowned caregiving expert involved
in the aging, caregiving and health fields for more than
two decades. Her website is Pamela Dwilson dot com. What
about preparing, for example, for you know, we have all
sorts of different transportation options these days. People could take
you know, of service vans to visit their doctors, they
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could take ubers, things like that. But when you're talking
about putting your parent in long term care, for example,
somewhere where there are going to have maybe they're living
independently but surrounded by the care they need. That's a
completely different conversation, and especially when you look at it
from a financial standpoint.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Isn't it well it is. I mean most people can
even afford assisted living, you know, I mean assisted living
depending on where you are, could be three to five
to seven thousand dollars a month. Which is why you've
got to have these conversations. I say, at least five
years before the need, because if you have to plan
for state medicaid, there's a five year look that period.
You have to make sure money is being spent appropriately.
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Places that take Medicaid have long waiting lists. You may
have a two year wait to get in, and they
may want you to pay for two years privately before
they accept you. So these are really conversations that cannot wait.
If you want to have choices, what.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Are the good rules of thumb? Then if you're looking
for these kinds of places for your parent and ideally
if you're doing it together with your parent for the future.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
So rule of thumb is can you pay or not pay?
That's the first question. If you cannot pay, then you're
looking at state medicaid. You better investigate the Medicaid program
and what the application process is like what the time is.
Then you're looking at places that accept Medicaid, which are
even fewer. Then you may have to get your parent
on the weightlift. Now, if there's money, that's a whole
different issue, because then you start saying, Okay, what part
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of town do you want to live in, what services
do you need? Let's go look at these places, Let's
have lunch, Let's see what they offer, let's look at
their charges, and then let's make a decision about what's
the best place that you know you want to go
live at.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Are these options that, for example, Medicare would cover Is
it only when you don't, when you can't afford it
at all and you have to turn to medicaid.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Medicare does not cover it. Now, if you have long
term care insurance, which is an optional benefit, that can
cover it, but no, Basically, if you're going to live
in a care community, you pay for it privately or
you spend down to a Medicaid level.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
What about preparing your parent for those financial commitments that
may have to come that you, as a caregiver may
have to take over for them, whether or not they're
living in an assisted living facility or still independently on
their own.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
That's why you want to have the conversations early. You know,
sometimes parents that want to tell kids if they have
money or not, or what they have. So that's the
case where you engage some independent person like me who's
you know your parents will talk to because it's confidential,
But you really have to find out mom and dad,
how much money do you have? This is what care costs.
You know, in home care is fifty dollars an hour,
a care community is five thousand dollars a month. We
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need to know what money you have so we can
make a plan and so we know if we have
to help you or not. Now kids always think, well,
I've got it. You know I've got to pay for
my parents care. No, you don't. You can investigate medicaid
and put your parents on medicaid, but you need the
time to plan. So again it goes back to have
the conversations today before. You need to have the conversation.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Uh, if it is preemptive, as you're suggesting, obviously makes
the most sense. How do you go about doing that
because for example, like death planning, it's not some it's
not a conversation. Many of us want to have, and
the parents might not want to even consider that two years,
five years down the line, they're going to have to
turn to assistance or not be independent anymore.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Well, it's a realistic conversation because Ham and Dad, we're
all going to get there. You know, You're just going
to get there sooner than I am. And by the way,
I'm making my plan. So doesn't it make sense that
we all plan at the same time. Take it off
your parents and put it on yourself.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
What about one of the issues that we're seeing so
often more and more of these days and younger people
because of social media, but in older Americans as well,
and the loneliness epidemic it's called.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Yes, isolation and loneliness actually contribute to dementia and more anxiety.
So there's benefits to you know, having family nearby. There's
benefits too if your parents can still drive and socialize.
But again it depends on were they social throughout their life.
So I mean, you may have a parent who didn't
want to be with anybody right and they're alone and
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they're happy, or you have parents who used to go
out and socialize and now they can't drive. So in
those situations, can you you know, send them an uber
to go to the senior center, or take them out
for dinner, or get them together with their friends. So
in a sense, you kind of, as a child, become
their social director.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
I kind of realize as a parent, we have a
lot more information now than we did when I was
a kid when my parents were raising me, more information
then than we had when my grandparents were raising my parents.
But the older we get, the more stuck in our
ways we are. How do you have those conversations with
your parents? They're said in their ways, but we now
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have more information to be able to take care of them.
The need for a healthier lifestyle as you age, to
protect you from needing these different things. That's another difficult
conversation as well.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Well, they're all difficult conversations, and it's because we in
the United States are not a preventive society, and insurance
companies don't get paid for people being healthy, right, so
there are no conversations. So if you're talking about prevention
with your parents, the question is were they preventative all
their life? You're probably not going to change a habit
if they weren't. But if you talk about the consequences, well,
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marm and dad. If you continue to do that, what
happens if you fall and you break a hip and
you end up in a nursing home. Now, sometimes they
are just going to dig in their heels and they're
not going to listen. And that's when you wait for
the train wreck. And then unfortunately, you react to the
train wreck, which happens a lot. They broke their hip,
they have to go to a nursing home, there's no choice.
How do we look at these things and on their habits.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Right when we're looking at either a nursing home and
assistant living facility, or even I think more importantly, at
home care, you go, I imagine through an interview process,
see your needs, your wants, things like that. What are
the most important things to look for? Let's start with
at home care. When you're looking for somebody who's going
to either come visit or be living with a parent.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
So with at home care, it's important to know what
your parent needs, right because you basically are directing these
people just because they you know, they could be an
independent party or they could work for an agency. Right,
just because they work for somebody doesn't mean they know
what you need them to do. So basically you make
a tasflix and say, hey, I need you to do
these ten things. What is that going to cost me?
And then you look at if you've been doing this
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as a caregiver. Am I spending ten hours a week?
Over there? Am I spending twenty hours a week? How
many hours do I need a caregiver? So you basically
come up with a plan. You go to the carriage
and see you're the independent person, say this is what
I want this and how much time I need? Who
do you have? How much is it going to cost?
And then you really want to look at consistency. You
want if you can get the same person all the time,
there's a huge benefit versus having somebody different show up
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every day who has to start from scratch to learn
about your parents.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
From the caregivers perspective, we talked about a few minutes
ago about how overwhelming it could be in terms of
the stress taking on this new responsibility of all of
a sudden taking care of the person who's taken care
of you for the majority of her life. What about
the idea where you need your you time to keep
your sanity, for example, And it's a thin line. A
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lot of people don't know where to draw that line.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
People have to make you time. Caregivers have to set boundaries.
Carerivers are probably the worse at setting boundaries because they
want to be helpful and they feel like, well, I
have to do this for mom or dad, or I
have to do that. First of all, if you don't
take care of yourself, you can't take care of them.
And second, find somebody who can shortcut your learning curve,
like a care manager or a caregiving expert that you
can call. And maybe you have to pay right, but
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you get all the answers you're looking for in a
thirty minute phone call or in an hour phone call.
You're not having to spend time searching on the internet.
That gives you more you time, right gives you more
me time.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
For a lot of people, it's either the first option
or the last option would be to take a parent
into their own homes, because that creates entirely new stressors
the older they get, or they have health issues in
your own relationship with your spouse, talk to me about
that and the things to consider when making that decision.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
You're going to make that decision, make a contract and
put it in writing, and the reason I say that
is it's almost like a pre marital contract because you
don't know how it's going to work out. If they
work out great, you may have no worries. It may
be your worst night. So mom or dad, we're going
to agree to this. We're going to agree on a
trial of one month or two months. We're going to
see how it works out. If it works out great,
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If it doesn't work out, then we have to look
at other options. And these are the other options. And
then you can put specifications like you know our kids
have their friends over, is that going to be a
problem for you? Or you know, we know that you
like to eat certain things. How are we going to
accommodate that. You really have to look at it like
you're marrying your parents and what are all the day
to day issues that could come up and be proactive
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about talking about those so that they don't become a problem.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Boundaries and barriers, I imagine are a key part of
that negotiation. Are they not very much?
Speaker 3 (15:38):
So?
Speaker 5 (15:39):
Yeah, if you had to give.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
One piece of advice to somebody who is probably preparing
to have that conversation with their parent because they know
the moment is coming, what would that one piece of
advice be try to.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Be very compassionate and do your research up front, so
you don't want to go in and tell your parents
you know all these things are going wrong and they
have to make changes. You want to go in and say, hey,
you know what, I did some research. I see you're
having these problems. Let's talk about all these options and
see what you think. You've got to be prepared for
the worst and have information to present so that the
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conversation can continue. If if you don't get where you
want in the first conversation, and you probably won't, it's
probably going to be a series of conversations.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
And I think the most important part of all of
this is do with the do this. Have these conversations
preemptively so when you need to implement them, you're ready
and both sides know what they can expect.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Yes, and you're not scrambling and you're not making decisions
under pressure.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Pamela Wilson well renowned caregiving expert involved in aging, caregiving
and the health fields for more than two decades. Her
website is Pamela Dwilson dot com. That's Pamela d Wilson
dot com. Pam Really appreciate your time. Thanks so much
for joining us.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Thank you, Manny, I appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (16:48):
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Speaker 4 (17:00):
Yeah, this is our first one of the year.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
Brady. We are bringing the I know, we're get it.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
We're squeezing it right in Okay, And I have to
tell you our woman to kick things off this year
is also a bright light in our community for many reasons.
I'm really proud of her because she has connected the
dots on purpose and passion and is really changing the
lives of women. We're going to get into that. But
without any further ado, welcome Eta to the show.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
How are you. I'm good. Hi.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
I am so excited you are here because you have
an event and I think it's perfect for the new year,
because January is this time where we're like, okay, new year,
new me, all these goals, but how do we actually
put goals into action? And you created the center for
Beautiful Living. Tell us about it.
Speaker 7 (17:43):
Center for Beautiful Living is a very powerful way that
we coach people to get to the nitty gritty of
what it is they want. And that is how you
get a goal when you really want it, and you
can see the line to get that you will.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
Achieve your goals.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Well, and I love that you're saying, how do you
actually achieve the goals because so often we dream, but
it's still just a dream or goal of unless we
actually start to do it. So you are a salon
owner for years, you know the beauty industry, but you're
also a coach and that's what you've combined together for
this Beauty Flip experience exactly.
Speaker 7 (18:19):
Bringing my twenty years of a salon and being in
the beauty industry with my twenty five years of coaching,
I have found this very unique way to coach couples, families,
and particularly women how to have a really beautiful, satisfying life.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Well, tell us about the event that you're doing and
the nonprofit it's going back to.
Speaker 7 (18:38):
The event that we're doing is called the Taste of
Beauty Flip. It is part of a mini version of
a year long course. This is ultimately imagine this place
where you get the chance to see yourself from a bigger,
broader perspective.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
You're the hero of your own movie.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
Ooh right, Yeah, go into that a little bit more,
because that's cool. Whitney the hero of her own movie.
Speaker 7 (19:03):
Well, if we watch a hero movie, what we find
often is how we're so excited that they go up
against challenges and yet they somehow get through it to
the other side where they really achieve something. I think
in our own lives when we feel those challenges, we
fall short or get stuck and we don't know how
to bust through.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Wow. I love that. And you know the beauty flip.
I actually tried it. It was before the end of
the year, so I got to dip my toe and
I actually literallytti.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
I had my mom with me, so.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
It was a really fun It was this I really
don't know how to like pinpoint to say to women
what they experience, but it really is this way that
you become vulnerable with a lot of women that you
don't know, in this way of like you kind of
take off your mask.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (19:51):
One of the things I like to say is imagine
going to a networking event that also has a whole
spa experience while sort of allowing women to be really
honest with each other and then throw in a glass
of prosecco and some life bites like who doesn't want
to go to that?
Speaker 5 (20:09):
Right?
Speaker 4 (20:09):
And you said, this is a mini taste of it,
because it's actually a full year type coaching experience.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
Exactly.
Speaker 7 (20:15):
You can do one on one coaching with me, and
if you go to my beautyflip dot com, you can
sign on for a thirty minute free coaching session with
me as well as sign up for the taste. In
the taste, you get a really beautiful two hour experience.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
I think it stands by itself. I know I need to.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
I still am dreaming about that charcuterie board. Okay, so
let's talk about the nonprofit that it's going back to support,
because this is important, Like Whitney's Women, not only are
you impacting the lives of the women that are coming
to beauty Flip helping them really do a self discovery,
but you also have a charitable component to it, which
I for anybody listening, if you have a business, have
a charity component.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
Okay, there, I love that. I love that.
Speaker 7 (20:56):
So we are supporting Lincoln Park Community Center or serve US,
and they are an amazing shelter. They tend to thirty
three hundred homeless people a year, but they don't just
give them a shelter. They actually teach them how to
do financing, how to do life skills, how to figure
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out how to run an apartment. So ultimately in the
end they land on their feet.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
And that is so cool.
Speaker 7 (21:24):
So I'm so excited to be a part of this.
And we are donating portions of anyone who signs up
for our beauty flip experiences or classes ten percent. But
also if you come into the salon and you want
to buy products, ten percent all of February and March,
they'll go to the center.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Well, and you were saying, you know, it's one of
those things that like when we live in Chicago, it
gets cold, it gets cold, just old to runt my car. Yeah,
and imagine if you are insecure in housing and wondering
how you're going to buy, these services are critical, especially
right now.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (21:57):
Yeah, absolutely, even last week when we were having that cold,
cold weather, they got in extra cots and they basically
picked up every single time the phone ring and got
another human person saved.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
That is amazing, amazing. Okay, so tell people again where
they can find out more about this taste and experience.
Speaker 7 (22:17):
Yeah, come to my beautyflip dot com. And there you'll
see a place where you can sign up for either
a three thirty minute coaching session or to join the
beauty Flip glasses and Tastes.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
And again this is going back to the Lincoln Park
Community Service. I also want to note that you do
have a salon. Like you've been in the beauty industry forever.
Your physical location of people want to find out more
is located where.
Speaker 7 (22:44):
We are located basically on the corner of Lincoln and
Webster twenty to twelve North Lincoln, in the heart of
Lincoln Park, in this gorgeous building called the Bakery Building,
a little historic building that was once a very famous
French restaurant.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
Oh I love it.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Every time I think about your slan, I think about
an orange Julius.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
Yeah, because it's right. Do you have red hair? So
it's like, there we go, there we go, beauty. I
have a Whitney's Women today. Baby. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
Okay, one more time, give us that website.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
My beautyflip dot Com.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Okay, and we'll have more on our website.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
I don't know if it was intentional or not, but
my stress level and blood pressure went down listening to
all this amazing stuff that you got to offer. So
well done, right, I know. And Whitney, you are our
superhero of this movie called Whitney's Women. You're the wonder woman.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
Oh you know what I love.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
I just love that women care about our community and
giving back because it's one of those things that when
we get in the day today, we can be so
self focused that we forget that we're all in this together,
and if we can elevate what other people are doing,
that's huge. So edit is a testament of like really
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Today on the show, we have Manny Muno's speaking with
Pamela Wilson and they are talking about caring for your
aging parents. And Pamela Wilson is a well renowned caregiving
expert involved in the aging, caregiving and health fields for
more than two decades. And also on the show today
we have our friend Brady and our friend Whitney Reynolds
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back for another episode, another empowering episode of Whitney's Women.
So let's kick off the show.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
It's a difficult situation many of us have dealt with,
many of us are dealing with, or many of us
will deal with caring for our aging parents, grandparents, other
loved ones and all the questions and difficulties that come
with them. Let's bring in an expert to discuss some
of those issues. Pamela Wilson is a well renowned caregiving
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expert involved in aging caregiving in the health fields for
more than two decades. Her website is Pamela Dwilson dot com. Pamela,
I appreciate.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
The time, my pleasure.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Let me start off with this because it's often one
of these two key issues where we first find ourselves
confronting our aging parents, either having to have that talk
with a loved one about taking away their car keys
or having that even more difficult conversation about the fact
that they are no longer able to live on their own.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
It's so difficult. You know, a lot of parents may
see this coming and a lot of times what they
worry is, you know, people telling them that they're failing right,
you can't drive anymore, you can't live alone. And so
when kids approach it, it's really approaching it from a
position of Hey, mom and dad, I'm noticing these things
are happening. Do you think you need any help? Or
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start asking questions before you start telling, because once you
start telling, they can shut down and then really become
in a place where they're refusing and they're digging in
their heels and they're saying, you know, I'm not leaving
this house, you know, unless I'm on my two feet.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yeah, you know, So what are the best ways to
approach that conversation so it isn't confrontational.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
For example, so it would be, hey, mom or dad,
I'm noticing that you need a little help around the house.
Can I help? What what might we be able to
do together? So you kind of make it a you know,
word doing this and I'm noticing it, But are you
noticing the same thing? You know, I want to make
sure that you know you have the help that you need.
You also could start with a story, say, hey, mom
or dad, you know my friend, Oh my gosh, you
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know this happened with their mom and dad and oh
what a nightmare. You know, I'd like to know what
you want to do about your your health or about
this issue. Can you tell me?
Speaker 2 (02:51):
It's one of the difficult things because not only are
you having to all of a sudden kind of switch
rolls right, all of a sudden, you're the caregiver to
the parent that has always been your caregiver, but you
almost have to one up them in terms of saying no,
this is the way we're going to go. If they refuse, well, you.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Know, one up. Being sometimes works, sometimes doesn't work, I always.
So here's what we don't see. So as a caregiver,
we're stressed out right, we're saying, oh my gosh, our
parents need all this, it's going to take time. But
what we don't see is what our parents are going through. Right.
They're losing their health. They can't you know, they can't
stand up out of a chair. They're worried about all
these things. They're stressed and anxious. They don't want to
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tell the kids because they think the kids are going
to take over. So it's really both sides. Coming in
heavy handed as a child usually does not work. You've
got to have some degree of empathy and some compassion
and say, well, what's going on with you? How do
you feel about this?
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Right?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Gosh, it must be really hard to be old and
not be able to do all the things you used
to be able to do.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Tell me about that, and I guess there's two different approaches,
also depending on if a parent is beginning to fail
mentally or if a parent is beginning to fail physically,
Because if it's physical, then they probably are starting to
understand they need more help. If it's mental, they might
not realize it at that point.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
The mental is really really hard because parents and sometimes
kids don't even catch it right. Parents can hide a
lot of things that the kids don't see them very often.
But if you are a child and you are noticing
that your parent is forgetful, what you wanted to say is, hey,
let's go to the doctor because maybe it could be
you know, maybe a medication you're taking is causing this forgetfulness.
You know, until we really know, we don't know how
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to help you. So you don't say, hey, you've got
Alzheimer's or demensions, right, you say, let's go figure out
what's going on. Let's go see the doctor.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Approaching it from the caregivers standpoint, which I know is
part of your expertise, getting to that point where you're
realizing that you need to have that conversation. The amount
of stress that that has to set off on people
realizing what they're probably about to undergo in terms of
beginning to take care of their parents. How do you
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prepare yourself mentally to become a caregiver.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
So for that, and let's just assume it's a family situation.
Hopefully you have siblings right that you're talking to about
this saying hey, you know, our dad seem to like,
you know, be starting to need help. Talk amongst your
siblings and say, okay, what can we all do? You
know if I can you know, stop over on Saturdays
and you live in town, can you come over on Monday? Right?
So you kind of talk amongst the siblings to even
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see if you have any support, because if you dealt
that's going to raise your stress level. You know, if
the siblings are saying, hey, we can help, then you
go to your parents and you present it. But if
it really is only you to manage your stress, you've
got to have a plan to talk to your parents
and not just like a conversation, but mom or dad,
let's create a plan. Where do you want to live,
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who do you want to be your caregiver? How much
money do you have? So you got to look at
this as a kind of almost as like a business
plan if you work, a lot of people at work
have a business plan and you have goals. So what
are the goals for your parents? How are they going
to pay for it? Are they going to stay home
or are they going to have caregivers? You got to
kind of from a bigger picture more factual place that
can lower your emotions and your anxiety.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
It almost feels like that's a conversation we need to
have long before we get to the point where we
need to implement it though, kind of like having a
living will or something like that, which which so many
of us don't even have until it's too late.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
In a perfect world, these conversations would happen today before
anything happens, so there's no emotion attached to it. But
the problem is we're so busy we don't have time.
Something happens, and then we react to it right then
we're emotional.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
We're speaking with Pamela Wilson, well renowned caregiving expert involved
in the aging, caregiving and health fields for more than
two decades. Her website is Pamela Dwilson dot com. What
about preparing, for example, for you know, we have all
sorts of different transportation options these days. People could take
you know, of service vans to visit their doctors, they
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could take ubers, things like that. But when you're talking
about putting your parent in long term care, for example,
somewhere where there are going to have maybe they're living
independently but surrounded by the care they need. That's a
completely different conversation, and especially when you look at it
from a financial standpoint.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Isn't it well it is. I mean most people can
even afford assisted living, you know, I mean assisted living
depending on where you are, could be three to five
to seven thousand dollars a month. Which is why you've
got to have these conversations. I say, at least five
years before the need, because if you have to plan
for state medicaid, there's a five year look that period.
You have to make sure money is being spent appropriately.
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Places that take Medicaid have long waiting lists. You may
have a two year wait to get in, and they
may want you to pay for two years privately before
they accept you. So these are really conversations that cannot wait.
If you want to have choices, what.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Are the good rules of thumb? Then if you're looking
for these kinds of places for your parent and ideally
if you're doing it together with your parent for the future.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
So rule of thumb is can you pay or not pay?
That's the first question. If you cannot pay, then you're
looking at state medicaid. You better investigate the Medicaid program
and what the application process is like what the time is.
Then you're looking at places that accept Medicaid, which are
even fewer. Then you may have to get your parent
on the weightlift. Now, if there's money, that's a whole
different issue, because then you start saying, Okay, what part
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of town do you want to live in, what services
do you need? Let's go look at these places, Let's
have lunch, Let's see what they offer, let's look at
their charges, and then let's make a decision about what's
the best place that you know you want to go
live at.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Are these options that, for example, Medicare would cover Is
it only when you don't, when you can't afford it
at all and you have to turn to medicaid.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Medicare does not cover it. Now, if you have long
term care insurance, which is an optional benefit, that can
cover it, but no, Basically, if you're going to live
in a care community, you pay for it privately or
you spend down to a Medicaid level.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
What about preparing your parent for those financial commitments that
may have to come that you, as a caregiver may
have to take over for them, whether or not they're
living in an assisted living facility or still independently on
their own.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
That's why you want to have the conversations early. You know,
sometimes parents that want to tell kids if they have
money or not, or what they have. So that's the
case where you engage some independent person like me who's
you know your parents will talk to because it's confidential,
But you really have to find out mom and dad,
how much money do you have? This is what care costs.
You know, in home care is fifty dollars an hour,
a care community is five thousand dollars a month. We
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need to know what money you have so we can
make a plan and so we know if we have
to help you or not. Now kids always think, well,
I've got it. You know I've got to pay for
my parents care. No, you don't. You can investigate medicaid
and put your parents on medicaid, but you need the
time to plan. So again it goes back to have
the conversations today before. You need to have the conversation.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Uh, if it is preemptive, as you're suggesting, obviously makes
the most sense. How do you go about doing that
because for example, like death planning, it's not some it's
not a conversation. Many of us want to have, and
the parents might not want to even consider that two years,
five years down the line, they're going to have to
turn to assistance or not be independent anymore.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Well, it's a realistic conversation because Ham and Dad, we're
all going to get there. You know, You're just going
to get there sooner than I am. And by the way,
I'm making my plan. So doesn't it make sense that
we all plan at the same time. Take it off
your parents and put it on yourself.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
What about one of the issues that we're seeing so
often more and more of these days and younger people
because of social media, but in older Americans as well,
and the loneliness epidemic it's called.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Yes, isolation and loneliness actually contribute to dementia and more anxiety.
So there's benefits to you know, having family nearby. There's
benefits too if your parents can still drive and socialize.
But again it depends on were they social throughout their life.
So I mean, you may have a parent who didn't
want to be with anybody right and they're alone and
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they're happy, or you have parents who used to go
out and socialize and now they can't drive. So in
those situations, can you you know, send them an uber
to go to the senior center, or take them out
for dinner, or get them together with their friends. So
in a sense, you kind of, as a child, become
their social director.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
I kind of realize as a parent, we have a
lot more information now than we did when I was
a kid when my parents were raising me, more information
then than we had when my grandparents were raising my parents.
But the older we get, the more stuck in our
ways we are. How do you have those conversations with
your parents? They're said in their ways, but we now
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have more information to be able to take care of them.
The need for a healthier lifestyle as you age, to
protect you from needing these different things. That's another difficult
conversation as well.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Well, they're all difficult conversations, and it's because we in
the United States are not a preventive society, and insurance
companies don't get paid for people being healthy, right, so
there are no conversations. So if you're talking about prevention
with your parents, the question is were they preventative all
their life? You're probably not going to change a habit
if they weren't. But if you talk about the consequences, well,
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marm and dad. If you continue to do that, what
happens if you fall and you break a hip and
you end up in a nursing home. Now, sometimes they
are just going to dig in their heels and they're
not going to listen. And that's when you wait for
the train wreck. And then unfortunately, you react to the
train wreck, which happens a lot. They broke their hip,
they have to go to a nursing home, there's no choice.
How do we look at these things and on their habits.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Right when we're looking at either a nursing home and
assistant living facility, or even I think more importantly, at
home care, you go, I imagine through an interview process,
see your needs, your wants, things like that. What are
the most important things to look for? Let's start with
at home care. When you're looking for somebody who's going
to either come visit or be living with a parent.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
So with at home care, it's important to know what
your parent needs, right because you basically are directing these
people just because they you know, they could be an
independent party or they could work for an agency. Right,
just because they work for somebody doesn't mean they know
what you need them to do. So basically you make
a tasflix and say, hey, I need you to do
these ten things. What is that going to cost me?
And then you look at if you've been doing this
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as a caregiver. Am I spending ten hours a week?
Over there? Am I spending twenty hours a week? How
many hours do I need a caregiver? So you basically
come up with a plan. You go to the carriage
and see you're the independent person, say this is what
I want this and how much time I need? Who
do you have? How much is it going to cost?
And then you really want to look at consistency. You
want if you can get the same person all the time,
there's a huge benefit versus having somebody different show up
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every day who has to start from scratch to learn
about your parents.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
From the caregivers perspective, we talked about a few minutes
ago about how overwhelming it could be in terms of
the stress taking on this new responsibility of all of
a sudden taking care of the person who's taken care
of you for the majority of her life. What about
the idea where you need your you time to keep
your sanity, for example, And it's a thin line. A
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lot of people don't know where to draw that line.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
People have to make you time. Caregivers have to set boundaries.
Carerivers are probably the worse at setting boundaries because they
want to be helpful and they feel like, well, I
have to do this for mom or dad, or I
have to do that. First of all, if you don't
take care of yourself, you can't take care of them.
And second, find somebody who can shortcut your learning curve,
like a care manager or a caregiving expert that you
can call. And maybe you have to pay right, but
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you get all the answers you're looking for in a
thirty minute phone call or in an hour phone call.
You're not having to spend time searching on the internet.
That gives you more you time, right gives you more
me time.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
For a lot of people, it's either the first option
or the last option would be to take a parent
into their own homes, because that creates entirely new stressors
the older they get, or they have health issues in
your own relationship with your spouse, talk to me about
that and the things to consider when making that decision.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
You're going to make that decision, make a contract and
put it in writing, and the reason I say that
is it's almost like a pre marital contract because you
don't know how it's going to work out. If they
work out great, you may have no worries. It may
be your worst night. So mom or dad, we're going
to agree to this. We're going to agree on a
trial of one month or two months. We're going to
see how it works out. If it works out great,
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If it doesn't work out, then we have to look
at other options. And these are the other options. And
then you can put specifications like you know our kids
have their friends over, is that going to be a
problem for you? Or you know, we know that you
like to eat certain things. How are we going to
accommodate that. You really have to look at it like
you're marrying your parents and what are all the day
to day issues that could come up and be proactive
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about talking about those so that they don't become a problem.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Boundaries and barriers, I imagine are a key part of
that negotiation. Are they not very much?
Speaker 3 (15:38):
So?
Speaker 5 (15:39):
Yeah, if you had to give.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
One piece of advice to somebody who is probably preparing
to have that conversation with their parent because they know
the moment is coming, what would that one piece of
advice be try to.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Be very compassionate and do your research up front, so
you don't want to go in and tell your parents
you know all these things are going wrong and they
have to make changes. You want to go in and say, hey,
you know what, I did some research. I see you're
having these problems. Let's talk about all these options and
see what you think. You've got to be prepared for
the worst and have information to present so that the
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conversation can continue. If if you don't get where you
want in the first conversation, and you probably won't, it's
probably going to be a series of conversations.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
And I think the most important part of all of
this is do with the do this. Have these conversations
preemptively so when you need to implement them, you're ready
and both sides know what they can expect.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Yes, and you're not scrambling and you're not making decisions
under pressure.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Pamela Wilson well renowned caregiving expert involved in aging, caregiving
and the health fields for more than two decades. Her
website is Pamela Dwilson dot com. That's Pamela d Wilson
dot com. Pam Really appreciate your time. Thanks so much
for joining us.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Thank you, Manny, I appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (16:48):
Thank you so much, and we are back. It is
like the most uplifting and positive part of my month.
Each time you come in here, just the studio just
gets brighter every single time. The one and only from
the Whitney Rental Show Whitney Rentals this Year for Whitney Women.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Yeah, this is our first one of the year.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
Brady. We are bringing the I know, we're get it.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
We're squeezing it right in Okay, And I have to
tell you our woman to kick things off this year
is also a bright light in our community for many reasons.
I'm really proud of her because she has connected the
dots on purpose and passion and is really changing the
lives of women. We're going to get into that. But
without any further ado, welcome Eta to the show.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
How are you. I'm good. Hi.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
I am so excited you are here because you have
an event and I think it's perfect for the new year,
because January is this time where we're like, okay, new year,
new me, all these goals, but how do we actually
put goals into action? And you created the center for
Beautiful Living. Tell us about it.
Speaker 7 (17:43):
Center for Beautiful Living is a very powerful way that
we coach people to get to the nitty gritty of
what it is they want. And that is how you
get a goal when you really want it, and you
can see the line to get that you will.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
Achieve your goals.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Well, and I love that you're saying, how do you
actually achieve the goals because so often we dream, but
it's still just a dream or goal of unless we
actually start to do it. So you are a salon
owner for years, you know the beauty industry, but you're
also a coach and that's what you've combined together for
this Beauty Flip experience exactly.
Speaker 7 (18:19):
Bringing my twenty years of a salon and being in
the beauty industry with my twenty five years of coaching,
I have found this very unique way to coach couples, families,
and particularly women how to have a really beautiful, satisfying life.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Well, tell us about the event that you're doing and
the nonprofit it's going back to.
Speaker 7 (18:38):
The event that we're doing is called the Taste of
Beauty Flip. It is part of a mini version of
a year long course. This is ultimately imagine this place
where you get the chance to see yourself from a bigger,
broader perspective.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
You're the hero of your own movie.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
Ooh right, Yeah, go into that a little bit more,
because that's cool. Whitney the hero of her own movie.
Speaker 7 (19:03):
Well, if we watch a hero movie, what we find
often is how we're so excited that they go up
against challenges and yet they somehow get through it to
the other side where they really achieve something. I think
in our own lives when we feel those challenges, we
fall short or get stuck and we don't know how
to bust through.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Wow. I love that. And you know the beauty flip.
I actually tried it. It was before the end of
the year, so I got to dip my toe and
I actually literallytti.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
I had my mom with me, so.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
It was a really fun It was this I really
don't know how to like pinpoint to say to women
what they experience, but it really is this way that
you become vulnerable with a lot of women that you
don't know, in this way of like you kind of
take off your mask.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (19:51):
One of the things I like to say is imagine
going to a networking event that also has a whole
spa experience while sort of allowing women to be really
honest with each other and then throw in a glass
of prosecco and some life bites like who doesn't want
to go to that?
Speaker 5 (20:09):
Right?
Speaker 4 (20:09):
And you said, this is a mini taste of it,
because it's actually a full year type coaching experience.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
Exactly.
Speaker 7 (20:15):
You can do one on one coaching with me, and
if you go to my beautyflip dot com, you can
sign on for a thirty minute free coaching session with
me as well as sign up for the taste. In
the taste, you get a really beautiful two hour experience.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
I think it stands by itself. I know I need to.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
I still am dreaming about that charcuterie board. Okay, so
let's talk about the nonprofit that it's going back to support,
because this is important, Like Whitney's Women, not only are
you impacting the lives of the women that are coming
to beauty Flip helping them really do a self discovery,
but you also have a charitable component to it, which
I for anybody listening, if you have a business, have
a charity component.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
Okay, there, I love that. I love that.
Speaker 7 (20:56):
So we are supporting Lincoln Park Community Center or serve US,
and they are an amazing shelter. They tend to thirty
three hundred homeless people a year, but they don't just
give them a shelter. They actually teach them how to
do financing, how to do life skills, how to figure
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out how to run an apartment. So ultimately in the
end they land on their feet.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
And that is so cool.
Speaker 7 (21:24):
So I'm so excited to be a part of this.
And we are donating portions of anyone who signs up
for our beauty flip experiences or classes ten percent. But
also if you come into the salon and you want
to buy products, ten percent all of February and March,
they'll go to the center.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Well, and you were saying, you know, it's one of
those things that like when we live in Chicago, it
gets cold, it gets cold, just old to runt my car. Yeah,
and imagine if you are insecure in housing and wondering
how you're going to buy, these services are critical, especially
right now.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (21:57):
Yeah, absolutely, even last week when we were having that cold,
cold weather, they got in extra cots and they basically
picked up every single time the phone ring and got
another human person saved.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
That is amazing, amazing. Okay, so tell people again where
they can find out more about this taste and experience.
Speaker 7 (22:17):
Yeah, come to my beautyflip dot com. And there you'll
see a place where you can sign up for either
a three thirty minute coaching session or to join the
beauty Flip glasses and Tastes.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
And again this is going back to the Lincoln Park
Community Service. I also want to note that you do
have a salon. Like you've been in the beauty industry forever.
Your physical location of people want to find out more
is located where.
Speaker 7 (22:44):
We are located basically on the corner of Lincoln and
Webster twenty to twelve North Lincoln, in the heart of
Lincoln Park, in this gorgeous building called the Bakery Building,
a little historic building that was once a very famous
French restaurant.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
Oh I love it.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Every time I think about your slan, I think about
an orange Julius.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
Yeah, because it's right. Do you have red hair? So
it's like, there we go, there we go, beauty. I
have a Whitney's Women today. Baby. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
Okay, one more time, give us that website.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
My beautyflip dot Com.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Okay, and we'll have more on our website.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
I don't know if it was intentional or not, but
my stress level and blood pressure went down listening to
all this amazing stuff that you got to offer. So
well done, right, I know. And Whitney, you are our
superhero of this movie called Whitney's Women. You're the wonder woman.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
Oh you know what I love.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
I just love that women care about our community and
giving back because it's one of those things that when
we get in the day today, we can be so
self focused that we forget that we're all in this together,
and if we can elevate what other people are doing,
that's huge. So edit is a testament of like really
sewing into the community and lifting women up. But you know,
I love my boys too. I mean, you're like my
(23:58):
radio husband, so you know we've been doing this a
long time. I have to tell you though, this is
a little bit of a drum roll announcement. Okay, okay, wait, well,
not well that.
Speaker 6 (24:09):
Time announcement wenment. I know, ready, let's go.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
I know, I'm not letting my tennis elbow impact that
drum roll. April fourteenth, my new season comes out, so
it is slated.
Speaker 5 (24:19):
It is ready.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
I have to tell you, you know, I feel like Chicago
Land has grown up with me. Before we were a
national show. We started here and then other markets picked
us up one by one. But Chicago we are proud
to call our home base. And we're telling stories in
a deep way. You can see that our little muscle
has grown the way. We're doing these deep storytelling and
really trying to let people know that their story matters.
(24:43):
So April fourteenth, save the date. Whitney Reynolds dot Com
just got a whole new makeover. Speaking of makeovers, so
go to it. We also have Whitney Reynolds Live coming up,
but we haven't announced that date yet, so stay tuned
for that. Thank you again always Brady for having me in.
Speaker 6 (24:57):
We will be watching and we will be ready to
listen to you next time. Whitneys women, Thanks Whitney, thank you.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
For listening, and thank you all for always tuning into
the Weekly Show right here on iHeartRadio on ninety three
to nine, Light FM, one on three five, Kiss FM,
and Rock ninety five to five. We do this every
single weekend. And of course, if you know somebody who
should be on the Weekly Show, here at iHeartRadio. You
can always contact me at Paulina at iHeartMedia dot com
and I'll try my very best set up an interview
(25:23):
with you so you can tell us how you're making
our city and suburbs a much better place to live.
Thank you always for tuning in, and of course you
can catch up on this episode and all previous episodes
up on our free iHeartRadio app. You can just simply
search for the weekly show. Thank you again, and of
course thank you for tuning in and spending your weekend
mornings with us on iHeartRadio. On the weekly show, catch
(25:46):
us again on our free iHeartRadio app. Search for the
weekly show. Thank you so much, Stay safe, Chicago, and
we'll talk to you again next weekend
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