July 11, 2024 • 13 mins
Scotty and Hannah talk to Ann Pembaur about dog rescues and finding "fur"ever homes for animals
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(00:00):
Welcome to Carolina Cares. It's ScottyBlaisdell, along with Hannah Tyler and some
special guests today. Yes, wedo have very special guests today. I
don't know what it is that makesme happier when I see a dog,
but there's something inside me that justkind of jumps and maybe that's maybe that
is why you know they use theseused dogs for therapy, right right,
(00:23):
And our Jingle dog is very excitedto be here because he's looking my crumbs
for my breakfast off the floor rightnow. Yeah, Jingles is the name
of the dog. But we're probablynot going to speak much to Jingles.
No, we'll just let her doher thing. But Ann Pimbauer is here,
and Ann is the president of theHaley Graves Foundation, and tell us
(00:44):
in a nutshell what that is.So the Haley Graves Foundation is a nonprofit
animal rescue. We don't just rescueanimals, though, we also do we
do community outreach. So somebody messagesas it says, hey, I want
to keep my pet, but Ican't afford the vet bills or to get
at vaccines or whatever. We willgo ahead and help that. That's stuff
(01:04):
we do behind the scenes. Thatpeople maybe don't know that we do.
It's great because maybe they're just overwhelmedwith the responsibility, but they have a
home and they want the dog correct. And it's kind of the same if
they reach out to us and say, hey, I want to keep my
pet, but I don't have food, we are more than happy to get
you food. I'm getting loved onover here by jingles. Oh you want
(01:26):
to talk buddy, You are sosweet. Yeah. Is this rescues in
general, So we are actually afoster based rescue, so that means that
all of our animals are actually inhomes. We don't have an actual facility
that you could go to. You'dhave to just attend our adoption events that
we have, and we have themusually two to three times a month and
kind of in various places. Sowe have them in Winston, we'll have
(01:49):
them in Greensboro, We'll have themin high Point. They're kind of just
all around the Triad area. Andthen in the meantime, these foster parents,
if you will take care of thesepets correct and then they them out
to these events hopefully get them adoptedcorrect. Yep. And they do their
own things too, like they'll takethem out to like breweries to get them
some exposure or whatever, like,they could do a lot on their end.
Two to try and get them adopted. They socialize them if you will.
(02:14):
And so often you hear people talkabout their prior breades and we love
all dogs, but why should youadopt a dog instead of go to a
breeder. When you adopt a dog, they're one hundred times more grateful.
But also you can get pure breadsfrom a rescue, so you don't need
to go to a breeder to geta pure bread dog. You can find
(02:34):
them in the shelters. You canfind them in rescues. And why go
to a breeder? I mean thereason they're there is because breeders are overbreeding
and not you know, they don'thave any standards. Yeah, you know,
I was going to ask that questionreally, because why does a dog
end up in a rescue? Whathappened in that situation? Different things.
You know, people don't contain theirdog properly, and then they get loose,
(02:57):
and then you know, they endup in the shelter, and then
they don't look in the shelter forwhatever reason, and you know they go
to a rescue or somebody adopts it. You know, we get a lot
of unfortunately, people who say they'reallergic to the dog. Oh those aren't
really I am almost like, justtake an allergy pill. But we get
a lot of those. Unfortunately,we get people that have, you know,
(03:22):
issues, behavioral issues with the dog. Again, we always try to
say, hey, try and geta trainer, like they can help you.
Some of these reasons, I justthink, you know, people just
are sometimes lazy and don't want tofix the person. They don't really realize
maybe what they signed up for whenthey got adopted. Yeah, when I
adopted my Tobers, they said theygave them up for adoption because he peed
(03:44):
on the floor once. Yeah,yeah, once. Yeah, And they're
like bye, we get things likethat. We're puppies, Like, oh,
the puppy has been biting everybody,Well what puppies do. Yeah,
yeah, we have one hit ourhouse. We call her a terror,
but we love her exactly. Ispeachy and she's a puppy. Uh,
she's a Corgie. Oh yeah,and I guess they're kind of known for
(04:05):
that little nippy. Well they're hurther, so they're heard exactly. I
didn't realize that we had have catsas well, and she will herd the
cats. It's just a bizarre thingto walk. So often people want a
puppy or they come in and theywant like a cute little Oh, it's
a it's a it's a puppy.It's so adorable. Can we just talk
about adopting senior dogs. I gotmine when he was ten, almost eleven,
(04:27):
and I think it's so important thateven if a dog is older and
they're life, they still deserve agreat home. I agree. I mean
I love senior dogs. I meanI have one. I mean he's I
guess almost a senior, but he'sa I call him my grumpy old man
because he's like, yes, justgrumpy, but I love him. He's
got so much personality. And whenI see that like crazy puppy come out
(04:48):
of him, come out of himevery once in a while, I'm like,
yeah, they's still that puppy inthere. Plus, if you want
to sleep in on the weekendsh youget a senior dog. They're not waking
up before time. Foh, it'sgreat and they're all that's so great because
like if most people, you know, they work nine to five, pretty
traditional, like they're gone for eighthours. A senior dog, you know,
can hold it and be happy justsleeping on your couch for eight hours,
(05:09):
Like that's what they do. Youknow. Let me ask a question
about as far as the taking careof pets, because it seems like this
being a place where there's all fourseasons and maybe a dog is able to
run around in the yard for partof the year, but during the really
cold months, how do you preparea dog to handle that? And should
(05:30):
you have some sort of heat forthem when they're outside or you just make
a place inside your home And Ijust feel I just feel like they're danger
out there. Yeah, I mean, obviously, being a rescue, I
want the dogs to be inside.I mean it's even if you're saying you
have a house for them or whatever. Unless it's like a heated and cooled
house that has comfort for them,I don't think they should be outside all
(05:55):
the time. Like, definitely,dogs should go outside. They're meant to
be outside, you know, andhave fun and like run around, go
and walk, sniff things, play, you know, they should be doing
all those things. But they also, I mean, we've domesticated these animals
so much they need to be inside, Like they're not bread anymore to live
and survive outside. Oh. Oftentimesdogs are more high maintenance than their human
owners. They who are anyway,and depending on breed, like shit zoos.
(06:21):
They love to be like the onlydog and miss tampered, and they're
very picky about their food. Youknow, I would imagine that's another thing
that you should look into before youget a second animal, is how do
they get along with other dogs?Is that a mistake a lot of folks
will make as well. Yes,and we require, you know, for
our rescue we require if you haveanother dog, that you bring the dog.
(06:42):
It's harder if they have cats.So we kind of just have to
say if our cat, you know, if our dogs are cat friendly,
then they should probably be okay withyour cats. I mean, cats are
kind of picky anyways, so theymight not like the dog anyways, they're
cats. That's all you have tosay. You know, it's an adjustment
period for yests. Cats are hardlyever going to like a dog right away.
I feel like we should reintroduce thisfrom the Hayley Grays Foundation and Pimbauer.
(07:08):
You are one of those fosters ofanimals. How many animals do you
have living in your home, notcounting your family. Yeah, I actually
currently have three of my own dogsand then I have three foster puppies day.
But that those dogs I've ever hadin my house. What's the most
thirteen? Oh my goodness. Yeah, I had a litter of puppies and
(07:28):
the mama. Thank god, Ididn't have them very long. I had
fosters that they went out to,but I had them for a couple of
days and I was like, Okay, I don't know how long I could
do this. And speaking of foster's, yeah, I'm guessing you guys are
always looking for people who want tofoster an animal one hundred percent. How
can they get involved with you guys? So they can, you know,
come and see us at adoption eventsand talk to us about it. They
can visit our website. We havea form on there they can fill out
(07:53):
to volunteer if they can't actually foster, and then there's also a foster application
on there if they want to foster. And if you foster with us,
we provide everything that you need.Food, great, We cover all the
medical If you need something, canyou tell me I will get it for
you. I don't you know Wedon't skimp on that stuff, so we
don't want you spending your money onit. Just all we require is that
(08:13):
they live inside with you like family, and you love on them and you
try and give them a good basisof a start, so when they go
to their new family, they areor maybe you'll fall in love and adopt
them yourself. Yes, we loveour foster fails. Yes. What is
the website? It is www dotthe Haley Graves Foundation dot com. It's
the Haley Graves and that's h A. L. E. Y. Yes,
(08:37):
okay, Graves Foundation dot com.Okay, So what is it in
us that makes us talk to animalsin a baby voice? What I noticed
when you came in and everyone inour facility came to see the dog more
so than when celebrities stop boxing.Yes, because she's just adorable first of
(08:58):
all, but we change. Yeah, you know, I think it's kind
of the same thing as with kids, right, Like when you see kids,
like especially babies, people get intothe baby talk. I think people
just associate dogs with babies and they'relike, oh my god, you know,
and we have that like I don'tknow if you've ever heard of cute
aggression, but that's when you getlike so excited you just want to squoize
on the I think a lot ofpeople suffer from that when they meet dogs.
(09:24):
I think it's funny to imagine ifyour boss is gruff and rough,
probably at home, if they havea dog, they have that baby voice
too. Yeah, I do.I happen to know the names of most
of the dogs in my apartment building. Couldn't tell you the name of their
owners. What's your name? Andthey're like, this is Mickey, and
then I become best friends with Mickey. Yep, yep. That's very calm.
If someone's thinking maybe this is thetime to jump in and actually finally
(09:46):
get a dog, what things shouldwe consider before we make that adoption.
I mean, look at your lifestyle, like are you an active person or
are you a person that wants tolay on the couch and just hang out
and have some dog to cuddle with, well, cuddle buddy. I mean,
so then you need to look atbreeds that are appropriate for your lifestyle.
So if you're a very active person, like a lab would be great,
or a lab mix that's like energeticand they go out and hike and
(10:09):
want, you know, do somethinglike that if you're like a lazy person
that just wants to hang out andlay on your couch, you probably should
look at a senior dog that wantsto sit around and cuddle. Judgment here,
by the way, No, no, oh, no, we can't
judge, because I am the personwho just wanted a cuddle dog and that's
why I got my senior tobes.Yeah. I mean, I'm a half
(10:30):
and half. I'm active and likecuddling. So you know, you just
got to find your dog that's appropriatefor your lifestyle. And you should research
breeds. I mean, rescues haveeverything's a mixed breed, but you can
kind of get an idea of maybewhat is in that mix breed just you
know by looking. It's not aone hundred percent guaranteed, but you can
kind of get an idea about thatand research, you know, research breeds
(10:52):
that you are looking for that wouldfit your lifestyle. And then also age
if you're going to be gone eightnine hours a day, a puppy is
not for you. That's that's notfair for a puppy to be locked up
that long. They can't hold itthat long. They're gonna pee and have
accidents. They're gonna be crazy becausethey've been camped out, you know,
in their create all day, soyou know, or if you don't create
them, they'll get destructive and you'llget upset because they're tearing up things because
(11:15):
they don't have any kind of outlet. Those are things to look into if
you do work. You know,I'm not saying you can't get a dog
if you work eight hours, justbaby, look at an older dog,
like an adult dog that can holdit that long and doesn't quite maybe need
as much stimulation during the day.You have to consider do you have money
for it. Pets are expensive.You got to buy food every week,
you have to get vaccines, doa wellness visit. God forbid something happens
(11:39):
and they get sick, you're gonnahave to pay for those medical bills so
they you know, just you needto make sure that you can't afford to
have an animal. Would you recommendpet insurance? By the way, so
I actually would. I personally haveit and it's saved me so much money
and I have it for my threeolder dogs, and it really I recommend
it. I'm a big advocate forit. But you know, with insurance,
(12:01):
it's not like human insurance where youhave to they'll pay for it at
the office. You have to actuallystill have the money to pay for it
and then they reimburseh you No,And if someone's listening who's a dog lover
but maybe isn't in a position tofoster or adopt on. Are you guys
accepting donations. Yes, of coursewe're always accepting donations. They don't want
any money. We don't want anymoney, but you know, like food
(12:22):
or toys or beds, things tokind of offset the cost to the fosters.
Yes, we accept all that stuff. And we actually have a Chewy
wish list and an Amazon wish listif people want to order off of that
of like supplies that we need,that's a great idea. Yeah, And
we actually on our website have adonate page so when you go to it,
it has both like ways you candonate and then also like our Amazon
(12:43):
and Chewy Chewy wish list linked theretoo, so kind of give you all
the ways. Well, dogs arepart of the family, definitely are.
They have their personalities, they havetheir needs just like any other family member.
You shouldn't take lightly adopting a dog. But it sounds like if you
want to get some help on doingthat, contact the Hailey Grays Foundation and
(13:03):
get some direction. Perhaps, canyou give us the website one more time.
Yeah, it's www Thehleygraves Foundation dotcom. That is Ann Pimbauer,
president of the Hailey Grays Foundation,and of course Jingles. Jingles was looking
me during the interview. We're friendsnow. Yeah, I love that.
This has just made our day.Thanks so much, and thank you for
(13:24):
joining us on Carolina Cares
Welcome to Carolina Cares. It's ScottyBlaisdell, along with Hannah Tyler and some
special guests today. Yes, wedo have very special guests today. I
don't know what it is that makesme happier when I see a dog,
but there's something inside me that justkind of jumps and maybe that's maybe that
is why you know they use theseused dogs for therapy, right right,
(00:23):
And our Jingle dog is very excitedto be here because he's looking my crumbs
for my breakfast off the floor rightnow. Yeah, Jingles is the name
of the dog. But we're probablynot going to speak much to Jingles.
No, we'll just let her doher thing. But Ann Pimbauer is here,
and Ann is the president of theHaley Graves Foundation, and tell us
(00:44):
in a nutshell what that is.So the Haley Graves Foundation is a nonprofit
animal rescue. We don't just rescueanimals, though, we also do we
do community outreach. So somebody messagesas it says, hey, I want
to keep my pet, but Ican't afford the vet bills or to get
at vaccines or whatever. We willgo ahead and help that. That's stuff
(01:04):
we do behind the scenes. Thatpeople maybe don't know that we do.
It's great because maybe they're just overwhelmedwith the responsibility, but they have a
home and they want the dog correct. And it's kind of the same if
they reach out to us and say, hey, I want to keep my
pet, but I don't have food, we are more than happy to get
you food. I'm getting loved onover here by jingles. Oh you want
(01:26):
to talk buddy, You are sosweet. Yeah. Is this rescues in
general, So we are actually afoster based rescue, so that means that
all of our animals are actually inhomes. We don't have an actual facility
that you could go to. You'dhave to just attend our adoption events that
we have, and we have themusually two to three times a month and
kind of in various places. Sowe have them in Winston, we'll have
(01:49):
them in Greensboro, We'll have themin high Point. They're kind of just
all around the Triad area. Andthen in the meantime, these foster parents,
if you will take care of thesepets correct and then they them out
to these events hopefully get them adoptedcorrect. Yep. And they do their
own things too, like they'll takethem out to like breweries to get them
some exposure or whatever, like,they could do a lot on their end.
Two to try and get them adopted. They socialize them if you will.
(02:14):
And so often you hear people talkabout their prior breades and we love
all dogs, but why should youadopt a dog instead of go to a
breeder. When you adopt a dog, they're one hundred times more grateful.
But also you can get pure breadsfrom a rescue, so you don't need
to go to a breeder to geta pure bread dog. You can find
(02:34):
them in the shelters. You canfind them in rescues. And why go
to a breeder? I mean thereason they're there is because breeders are overbreeding
and not you know, they don'thave any standards. Yeah, you know,
I was going to ask that questionreally, because why does a dog
end up in a rescue? Whathappened in that situation? Different things.
You know, people don't contain theirdog properly, and then they get loose,
(02:57):
and then you know, they endup in the shelter, and then
they don't look in the shelter forwhatever reason, and you know they go
to a rescue or somebody adopts it. You know, we get a lot
of unfortunately, people who say they'reallergic to the dog. Oh those aren't
really I am almost like, justtake an allergy pill. But we get
a lot of those. Unfortunately,we get people that have, you know,
(03:22):
issues, behavioral issues with the dog. Again, we always try to
say, hey, try and geta trainer, like they can help you.
Some of these reasons, I justthink, you know, people just
are sometimes lazy and don't want tofix the person. They don't really realize
maybe what they signed up for whenthey got adopted. Yeah, when I
adopted my Tobers, they said theygave them up for adoption because he peed
(03:44):
on the floor once. Yeah,yeah, once. Yeah, And they're
like bye, we get things likethat. We're puppies, Like, oh,
the puppy has been biting everybody,Well what puppies do. Yeah,
yeah, we have one hit ourhouse. We call her a terror,
but we love her exactly. Ispeachy and she's a puppy. Uh,
she's a Corgie. Oh yeah,and I guess they're kind of known for
(04:05):
that little nippy. Well they're hurther, so they're heard exactly. I
didn't realize that we had have catsas well, and she will herd the
cats. It's just a bizarre thingto walk. So often people want a
puppy or they come in and theywant like a cute little Oh, it's
a it's a it's a puppy.It's so adorable. Can we just talk
about adopting senior dogs. I gotmine when he was ten, almost eleven,
(04:27):
and I think it's so important thateven if a dog is older and
they're life, they still deserve agreat home. I agree. I mean
I love senior dogs. I meanI have one. I mean he's I
guess almost a senior, but he'sa I call him my grumpy old man
because he's like, yes, justgrumpy, but I love him. He's
got so much personality. And whenI see that like crazy puppy come out
(04:48):
of him, come out of himevery once in a while, I'm like,
yeah, they's still that puppy inthere. Plus, if you want
to sleep in on the weekendsh youget a senior dog. They're not waking
up before time. Foh, it'sgreat and they're all that's so great because
like if most people, you know, they work nine to five, pretty
traditional, like they're gone for eighthours. A senior dog, you know,
can hold it and be happy justsleeping on your couch for eight hours,
(05:09):
Like that's what they do. Youknow. Let me ask a question
about as far as the taking careof pets, because it seems like this
being a place where there's all fourseasons and maybe a dog is able to
run around in the yard for partof the year, but during the really
cold months, how do you preparea dog to handle that? And should
(05:30):
you have some sort of heat forthem when they're outside or you just make
a place inside your home And Ijust feel I just feel like they're danger
out there. Yeah, I mean, obviously, being a rescue, I
want the dogs to be inside.I mean it's even if you're saying you
have a house for them or whatever. Unless it's like a heated and cooled
house that has comfort for them,I don't think they should be outside all
(05:55):
the time. Like, definitely,dogs should go outside. They're meant to
be outside, you know, andhave fun and like run around, go
and walk, sniff things, play, you know, they should be doing
all those things. But they also, I mean, we've domesticated these animals
so much they need to be inside, Like they're not bread anymore to live
and survive outside. Oh. Oftentimesdogs are more high maintenance than their human
owners. They who are anyway,and depending on breed, like shit zoos.
(06:21):
They love to be like the onlydog and miss tampered, and they're
very picky about their food. Youknow, I would imagine that's another thing
that you should look into before youget a second animal, is how do
they get along with other dogs?Is that a mistake a lot of folks
will make as well. Yes,and we require, you know, for
our rescue we require if you haveanother dog, that you bring the dog.
(06:42):
It's harder if they have cats.So we kind of just have to
say if our cat, you know, if our dogs are cat friendly,
then they should probably be okay withyour cats. I mean, cats are
kind of picky anyways, so theymight not like the dog anyways, they're
cats. That's all you have tosay. You know, it's an adjustment
period for yests. Cats are hardlyever going to like a dog right away.
I feel like we should reintroduce thisfrom the Hayley Grays Foundation and Pimbauer.
(07:08):
You are one of those fosters ofanimals. How many animals do you
have living in your home, notcounting your family. Yeah, I actually
currently have three of my own dogsand then I have three foster puppies day.
But that those dogs I've ever hadin my house. What's the most
thirteen? Oh my goodness. Yeah, I had a litter of puppies and
(07:28):
the mama. Thank god, Ididn't have them very long. I had
fosters that they went out to,but I had them for a couple of
days and I was like, Okay, I don't know how long I could
do this. And speaking of foster's, yeah, I'm guessing you guys are
always looking for people who want tofoster an animal one hundred percent. How
can they get involved with you guys? So they can, you know,
come and see us at adoption eventsand talk to us about it. They
can visit our website. We havea form on there they can fill out
(07:53):
to volunteer if they can't actually foster, and then there's also a foster application
on there if they want to foster. And if you foster with us,
we provide everything that you need.Food, great, We cover all the
medical If you need something, canyou tell me I will get it for
you. I don't you know Wedon't skimp on that stuff, so we
don't want you spending your money onit. Just all we require is that
(08:13):
they live inside with you like family, and you love on them and you
try and give them a good basisof a start, so when they go
to their new family, they areor maybe you'll fall in love and adopt
them yourself. Yes, we loveour foster fails. Yes. What is
the website? It is www dotthe Haley Graves Foundation dot com. It's
the Haley Graves and that's h A. L. E. Y. Yes,
(08:37):
okay, Graves Foundation dot com.Okay, So what is it in
us that makes us talk to animalsin a baby voice? What I noticed
when you came in and everyone inour facility came to see the dog more
so than when celebrities stop boxing.Yes, because she's just adorable first of
(08:58):
all, but we change. Yeah, you know, I think it's kind
of the same thing as with kids, right, Like when you see kids,
like especially babies, people get intothe baby talk. I think people
just associate dogs with babies and they'relike, oh my god, you know,
and we have that like I don'tknow if you've ever heard of cute
aggression, but that's when you getlike so excited you just want to squoize
on the I think a lot ofpeople suffer from that when they meet dogs.
(09:24):
I think it's funny to imagine ifyour boss is gruff and rough,
probably at home, if they havea dog, they have that baby voice
too. Yeah, I do.I happen to know the names of most
of the dogs in my apartment building. Couldn't tell you the name of their
owners. What's your name? Andthey're like, this is Mickey, and
then I become best friends with Mickey. Yep, yep. That's very calm.
If someone's thinking maybe this is thetime to jump in and actually finally
(09:46):
get a dog, what things shouldwe consider before we make that adoption.
I mean, look at your lifestyle, like are you an active person or
are you a person that wants tolay on the couch and just hang out
and have some dog to cuddle with, well, cuddle buddy. I mean,
so then you need to look atbreeds that are appropriate for your lifestyle.
So if you're a very active person, like a lab would be great,
or a lab mix that's like energeticand they go out and hike and
(10:09):
want, you know, do somethinglike that if you're like a lazy person
that just wants to hang out andlay on your couch, you probably should
look at a senior dog that wantsto sit around and cuddle. Judgment here,
by the way, No, no, oh, no, we can't
judge, because I am the personwho just wanted a cuddle dog and that's
why I got my senior tobes.Yeah. I mean, I'm a half
(10:30):
and half. I'm active and likecuddling. So you know, you just
got to find your dog that's appropriatefor your lifestyle. And you should research
breeds. I mean, rescues haveeverything's a mixed breed, but you can
kind of get an idea of maybewhat is in that mix breed just you
know by looking. It's not aone hundred percent guaranteed, but you can
kind of get an idea about thatand research, you know, research breeds
(10:52):
that you are looking for that wouldfit your lifestyle. And then also age
if you're going to be gone eightnine hours a day, a puppy is
not for you. That's that's notfair for a puppy to be locked up
that long. They can't hold itthat long. They're gonna pee and have
accidents. They're gonna be crazy becausethey've been camped out, you know,
in their create all day, soyou know, or if you don't create
them, they'll get destructive and you'llget upset because they're tearing up things because
(11:15):
they don't have any kind of outlet. Those are things to look into if
you do work. You know,I'm not saying you can't get a dog
if you work eight hours, justbaby, look at an older dog,
like an adult dog that can holdit that long and doesn't quite maybe need
as much stimulation during the day.You have to consider do you have money
for it. Pets are expensive.You got to buy food every week,
you have to get vaccines, doa wellness visit. God forbid something happens
(11:39):
and they get sick, you're gonnahave to pay for those medical bills so
they you know, just you needto make sure that you can't afford to
have an animal. Would you recommendpet insurance? By the way, so
I actually would. I personally haveit and it's saved me so much money
and I have it for my threeolder dogs, and it really I recommend
it. I'm a big advocate forit. But you know, with insurance,
(12:01):
it's not like human insurance where youhave to they'll pay for it at
the office. You have to actuallystill have the money to pay for it
and then they reimburseh you No,And if someone's listening who's a dog lover
but maybe isn't in a position tofoster or adopt on. Are you guys
accepting donations. Yes, of coursewe're always accepting donations. They don't want
any money. We don't want anymoney, but you know, like food
(12:22):
or toys or beds, things tokind of offset the cost to the fosters.
Yes, we accept all that stuff. And we actually have a Chewy
wish list and an Amazon wish listif people want to order off of that
of like supplies that we need,that's a great idea. Yeah, And
we actually on our website have adonate page so when you go to it,
it has both like ways you candonate and then also like our Amazon
(12:43):
and Chewy Chewy wish list linked theretoo, so kind of give you all
the ways. Well, dogs arepart of the family, definitely are.
They have their personalities, they havetheir needs just like any other family member.
You shouldn't take lightly adopting a dog. But it sounds like if you
want to get some help on doingthat, contact the Hailey Grays Foundation and
(13:03):
get some direction. Perhaps, canyou give us the website one more time.
Yeah, it's www Thehleygraves Foundation dotcom. That is Ann Pimbauer,
president of the Hailey Grays Foundation,and of course Jingles. Jingles was looking
me during the interview. We're friendsnow. Yeah, I love that.
This has just made our day.Thanks so much, and thank you for
(13:24):
joining us on Carolina Cares
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