What is tolyamory? And do you keep secrets?

Clint guesses what the new word "Tolyamory" means. What does the latest research on teen girls, social media, and body-image show? And what percentage of people keep secrets from their partners/spouses?

Episode Transcript

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Doctor Jen. I know we havea couple of things to get to,
something about body image, which I'llshare with you. Do you keep secrets
from your significant other? And you'vegot something I have. Remember we were
doing a whole bunch of weeks ina row where I was quizzing you on
a different word. Yes, Ihave a new word for you. I
love it. I'm ready you wantit? Sure, let's start with that.

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Okay. The word is holly Amory. T O L Y holly Amory
A M O R. Why Soit's like Pollyamory, but with the T
at the front, which is whyit's throwing me off because Pollyamory. I
was like, well, she's toldme this before. I know this one

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Holly Amory. Okay, how abouthow about this is someone who gets off
on being with multiple partners and it'smostly men with women because the T instead
of the P has to do withtits. So it's Tollyamory tits only.

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Okay, I know you do notbelieve that. I don't. Okay,
Okay, now I'm gonna I'm gonnagive you bread crumbs. So, okay,
what is what is polyamory? Well? I thought polyamory was when you
maybe I'm wrong about what it is. I thought polyamory. God, I'm
mixing. I think I'm mixing theterms up. I thought it was multiple

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partners. And you're both okay withthat? Yeah, yeah, okay,
Yeah, it's at least you haveyou know, what's an open relationship or
open marriage. It's consensual non monogamy, and so right, it's the opposite
of what you just said of keepingsecrets from your partner, and that you
agree that you can either have relationshipswith other people, you can have sexual

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relations with other people, or both, and it's meant to be in the
open. So think about what doesholly sound like a little bit? What
does what holly? The beginning ofa t L? I? How about
tol'll tall? Oh? You liketaller people? No, t o L
not t a l oh. Thenit's taking a toll on you. You

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like to do it on that?No, it's think of it as to
tolerate. That was my next thing. Tolerate. Okay, that's good,
So let me read a definition.Yeah, you're not into it, but
you'll tolerate your partner doing that withother people because you know it's what they
want. You want to get theirrelationship alive. That is, yes,
probably at the core of it.Yes. So the this is a new

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coin termed by Dan Savage, whohas coined many a term in the past,
like pegging. Oh, I'm tryingto think what else He's come up
with really good ones. So he'slike a you know, a sex column
expert, speaker writer, and soit is a It refers to when a
person is aware and tolerating their partnersoutside sexual or romantic contact, but without

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having openly discussed it and consented toit. Huh. So they use examples
of like Hillary and Bill Clinton believeto be an example where INFIDELI was exposed,
yet they stayed together as a sociallymonogamous couple. And that often people
are doing this that maybe they havean awareness of it, they don't talk

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about it, they don't love it, but they still want to stay in
the relationship, probably feel like theywon't have any control over their partner and
can't and then go along with it, or because they feel like they should.
Because I'm going to say some couplesI've worked with belief that maybe they
should tolerate it because they know they'renot having sex with their partner and they

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don't want to. So yeah,what do you think hold on backing up
for that last thing you said?Maybe I might have misheard you, but
did you just say if one partnerdoes not want to have sex with the
other, but the other partner doesand there's no like physical thing and that
you just refuse to do it.You're saying you think they should be okay
with a tally amory. I'm not. There's no shoulds in here. I

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am not. I'm not shooting allover anyone. I'm sorry. I thought
you took a ship just now.Ah, that's fair, totally fair.
I gotta understand. Uh no,No, I just think that some people
will do that because they think theyshould gotcha, gotch Yeah, because they

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think it's only fair, and theyfeel like if they, you know,
said something to their partner, areactually faced it, they're afraid of what
they would hear. They're afraid itwould confirm what they think already and believe
already or know to be true sortof deeply inside of them and want to
ignore it, and that if theydid address it, like what are they
going to do? That? Istheir partner going to leave them? Are

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they going to actually leave their partner. So I think it's that there's there's
enough good in the relationship that theywant to stay in. And that could
be lots of things. That couldbe financial, that could be kids,
that could be a house, thatcould be just companionship, that could be
you're growing old together, like somany different things, and so you kind
of choose to look the other wayand not address it, even though if

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you don't really talk about it andyou don't love it. So, yeah,
what do you think I I mean, what do I say? I
mean, I've I've had friends inthis situation. I've had friends that have
told you they know their partner isprobably cheating on them and they don't want
to address it. Well, Imean there's been a little bit of that

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just in the past with certain friends, but more the other that they're the
one that's like, look, itain't happening at home, I'm gonna do
this, you know, And nowI don't. Again, I've never witnessed
it, but yeah, I've hadYeah, I've had it. Where what
do I think, Well, dothey think that their partner knows? Because
that's the thing. This is tollyAmory. This is the this is like
the person who's being cheated on.Well, okay, you're right. So

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if I'm looking at it from thatperspective, let me think I knew a
couple that was okay with it.I knew a couple that suspected it,
but no proof. I guess not. I guess I don't technically from that
standpoint, from that definition, havesomebody that was like, I think they're
doing it, but you know whatever. I mean. I have had a
female back in the day. Iremember she I do remember that. She

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said, I'll bet he is,but I have no proof, nor do
I want to know. Yeah,so just whatever, So I guess maybe
that's kind of it. But shedidn't know for sure though. Yes,
no, that's exactly that's I thinkfalls into this category. And I was
thinking too that maybe sort of fallsinto this category is and I've seen some
couples with this. They have kindof a don't ask, don't tell policy.

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Yep, that maybe once they talkedabout sort of in passing or something
like that, like it came uponce. It's super uncomfortable, probably maybe
when they were drinking or something,and it was kind of like, I
know, you're not happy here ifyou have to take care of yourself in
some ways, Okay, I justI don't want to hear about it,

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so and that, to me,yeah, kind of falls into this category.
It does, because you're like,maybe they're out there doing something.
I'm not sure. I don't wantto know about it. I don't want
to know about the details. Sosee, And it's interesting because if you
are in a scenario like that,Let's say you're just never having sex,
that's one thing, yeah, likenever, like it just doesn't happen.

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What about like Christmas and birthday?Hand jobs? You mean like in the
relationship. Yeah, yeah, Imean I guess that's sort of action,
but there's no penetration, no exchangeof bodily fluids. And That's where I'm
coming at with this one. Soyou need exchange of bodily fluids. Well

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you're saying, oh, hell yeahin the relationship. But my thing is
But my thing is this. Let'ssuppose you're in a relationship where you're not
getting any of that. Okay,Then it's kind of like, all right,
I kind of get where the personwho doesn't want to would go I
don't want to know about it,go ahead. But then there's the concern
at least I would be if Iwere that person who said, yeah,

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I get it where you need it, whatever, I just don't want to
ever hear about it. Well thenokay, then you're wondering if you guys
do it once in a while,right, are you then using a condom
or are you? Well, Imean there's so this is so fraught with
potential problems, but I think thethought is kind of like, hey,
can I can I like tap outor maybe right occasionally you'll get a BJ,

(08:31):
a b DA BJ or something likethat. So then again, I
mean there's less than concern I mean, you could still catch diseases from genitals
to mouth and vice versa, butyou know, less concerns than you know
intercourse. So I don't know.Yeah, it's I don't I don't know

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how people could do it, becauseI would freaking go nuts wondering like every
time my partner was traveling or somethinglike where they do, Like you need
to do a lot of apartmentalization,right, And I'm not great, Like
I actually feel sick to my stomachjust thinking about it right now, Like
I was like, WHOA, thatis not I mean, because you know,

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my preference in relationships is to betalking about everything, even the most
uncomfortable stuff, and make sure thingsaren't getting brushed under the rug. So
I would find this very hard todo. Hell yeah, me too.
Yeah yeah. Anyway, Okay,so nither of us are signing up for

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tollyamory? Is that what I hear? I was saying, Okay, what
uh? What did you have there? Well, so I've got this article
that I was reading and it says, if there's a young woman in your
life who has body image issues,tell her to stay off social media for
a week. A one week breakfrom social media is enough to significantly improve
the body image and self esteem ofyoung women, research finds. The study

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is among the first look at theeffect of a social media break on body
image and its benefits of particularly forthose who believe being thin as ideal.
The study simply had half of itsparticipants avoid using TikTok x, Facebook,
and Instagram for one week, whilethe others continued as normal. That was
it, and the results showed thatyoung women who had abstained experienced large boosts

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in their self esteem and body image. And the sources of body image or
research publication. So who knows aboutthat? I don't know if you know
about it. Yeah, I'm curiousabout that. I agree with it,
don't you. And well, yeah, it's interesting that one week could actually
create an observable difference like that therewould actually be a significant result from that.

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So I am curious about, likewho conducted the research and how rigorous
it was. But yeah, no, I mean, I yes, it's
funny. You know what this justreminded me of. In college, I
did a senior thesis and it wasspecifically on the impact of I mean,
at the time, this was eighteenninety one, the impact of women's you

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know, quote unquote perfect bodies likein magazines and such, and the impact
on women and women's self esteem andbody image. But I could you know,
at the time, I could onlyuse like a you know, have
a group of women come in andlook at, you know, a bunch
of images, and then you know, take a survey to see how they
felt about themselves, and have likea control group. Who I'm trying to

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remember what my control group was.I hope I had a control group.
Ah, I don't know. Iwas like twenty one. But anyway,
and so, but there was nothere was no I didn't find any result,
because it's like the intervention wasn't strongenough in that moment to have them
look for, you know, fiveminutes at some images from magazines. So

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this is interesting to me that likea week. I mean, yeah,
so here's why. Here's why Ilook at a week as maybe a little
longer than what it sounds to most. You go on vacation for a week,
and a couple things I think happen. If it's a great vacation.
You just start to feel refreshed,rejuvenated, more excited. Each day,

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you feel a little more relaxed.Maybe you want to get back home because
you've missed home, Like five sixdays is enough on the seventh day,
or like get me back home becauseof those effects for being on vacation for
a week, it's almost like beingon vacation from social media and you're not
comparing yourself and all that other crap. When you're saying so on vacation,
you would just in general spend lesstime online, and you think that's part

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of the refreshing component of it.Sorry, no, it was just I
guess it was a bad analogy.I'm saying. If you could feel refreshed
in that amount of time from avacation or miss your home in that amount
of I got it. I thinkbeing away from Yeah. Okay, no,
no, no, I see whatyou're saying. That's fair, especially
if you consider the amount of hoursthat some teens probably spend on social Oh

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yeah, absolutely, and that's fair. Oh yeah, that's I see what
you're saying. Okay, yeah,yeah, I'd be curious to know.
Yeah, I'd be curious to knowthe statistics on the amount of time if
they and if they only took folksthat were like higher users of social media,
or if they had just sort ofaverage, lower users. You know

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what. I didn't think about allthat. See, that's why you get
all these smart questions I'm associated with. Yeah, it doesn't say any of
that. It just says body imageor research publication. Yeah, so it
doesn't give anything to me. Uhis it interesting? I mean, and
I'm I'm yeah, I'm wondering ifthey did like a pretest and a post
test, or if they just withthe control group, just did post tests

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for both. Anyway, that's interesting. I think that's powerful. I'm gonna
see if this comes up. Yeah. I didn't think about going further into
it, so this is Yeah,let's see, maybe it's on here Science

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Daily. There's a large growing bodyof evidence pointing to potentially negative impacts of
social media mental health. No,that's not it. Well okay, so
I don't know. I try tolook it up on Google how long.
But the point is I I nexttime I bring something like this, I'll
try to look a little deeper intoit. But you think about that stuff
sometimes I don't. No, that'sfair, But this is, like I

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said, I'm I'm supposed to thinklike this because I was trained in doing
research. So see whatever point Iwas making, I tell it was like,
that's funny, that was well done. Oh my god. I just
wanted to do that at random timeswith my boyfriend or if we're like starting

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to have an argument, I'm justgonna be like, see, I'm like
mm hmm, exactly, yeah,look at you denying it. What's your
point? What? Oh? Ilike that and you should follow it up
just like it. Well, whateverpoint I'm trying to make, that's all
exactly. Yeah. See nowhere,so you know what, I'd really like
to go to this restaurant tonight.See wait what yeah, yeah, that's

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it. Whatever point I was tryingto make Yeah, here's something out of
psychology today. Okay, again it'sa nutshell, But there's also another story
that I'm going to go hand inhand with this, because I think it's
a very interesting that there's separate storiesbut could mesh well together. As an
example, so, are you keepinga secret from your significant other? You're
not the only one. Research foundin general a large majority. In fact,

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sixty percent of people in a committedrelationship admitted to keeping at least one
secret from their partners at some pointin life, and one quarter say they
were keeping a secret right now.So just we marinate on that a little
bit. There was a woman ina different article, and I don't remember
all the details, but she justrecently found out that her husband was keeping

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a seven hundred dollars a month secretfrom her, and that secret is marijuana.
In fact, I wonder if Ican tough one. Well, he
must not have been smoking it,because you could smell that everywhere. I
think I can get it back righthere. I think it was in this

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session because I wasn't gonna bring itup that I thought it goes so well
with keeping the secret. Let's see, I know I want to go back
to that article too. I wantto hear more about that because thinking about
that from myself. Yeah, let'ssee here, wait for yourselh I see.
I wonder how many people like wantto fart a lot and keep that

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as a secret, Like does itcount like those relationships where people pretend they
don't fart and they never fart infront of their partners? Does that count
as keeping a secret? And multiplesecrets? Every day you are distracted and
not listening to me. No,I'm listening to you. I'm trying to
find that article. Now, I'lllet it go. I'll let it go.

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I'll let that go. This partykeeping a secret? I mean yes,
but it's a secret that doesn't matterand as long as the other person's
not smelling it, okay. Sowhat type of secrets? How big are
these secrets do you think? Honeysaid? All that's see. Now you
got me back to wishing I hadmore information on that, and it's not

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well, So here's my thing,like, like, I'll tell you a
secret that I that I I don'tthink it's harmful. So my son Dylan
is under a lot of pressure,you know, with college and at that
age, I remember what it waslike, and my wife and I are
both so supportive of it, andanybody listening who knows my wife, don't

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don't. Don't reveal my secret becauseI don't think it hurts anything. And
I was just trying to keep himfrom it. To listen to our show.
Okay, go ahead. So allit is is, there was a
day that he and I were herebefore my wife got home, and our
garage is a little bit messy,and there was a little pile of clothes
and something in front of the washerand dryer. And he comes in the

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house and he goes Dad, andhe just come look at the dryer.
He he sort of stumbled over thepile of clothes and the dryer door was
down. It's a front load drive, so it sort of broke it a
little bit. Yeah, but nowso I kind of fixed it enough really
quickly to get it to shut.We got to put a little handle against

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it for now till I really sitin, you know, dive in and
fix it. Fix it so itstill works. It's a little bit of
a pain, but I took thefall. He didn't ask me to.
I just said, hey, hone, I fell against the dryer. I
broke it, you know, butbut it's working right now. Here's why.
Yeah, she probably would have beencompletely fine. I mean, he
felt like he would have been completelyfine with it. She would have been

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one hundred percent. My wife isnot brutal like that at all. She
didn't even give me that much crap. I was just, you know,
he's he's prepping for a show,he's got all kinds of rehearsals, he's
trying to maintain his college life whilehe's here for the week, you know,
that whole thing. He was gettingready to go back to school.
And I just thought, you know, I did it. I don't care,

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you know, and I don't knowif it's wrong like this, this
is interesting. I don't like it. She would not have been mean to
him at all. Right. Infact, she's giving me, she'd given
me lightheartedly crap a couple of timesin front of him, and she's like,
yeah, I had to put thestick against the door. I said,
I know, sorry about that.So I'm going to fix it and
just do it. And that's theonly thing I can even think about that

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I've lied to her at all,like at all, wow, And I
know really like I don't know butokay, okay, okay, wait,
first of all, so like Idon't get it, Like to me,
that seems like an uber level oflike protecting your son, Like what would
have been the harm of him beinglike, oh, yeah, I tripped
a fellow, I'm so sorry,Like what, like, I don't know,
that seems insane, Like is henot resilient enough to handle that?

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That we're totally resilient. I don'tknow, did it I just thought,
yeah, you know, I'll takethe hit. I don't know. Honestly,
as I'm talking about it, Idon't even have a clue. Okay,
okay, okay. What about secretsof a mission not overt like lies,
because that's different in keeping secrets,but like I mean, right,

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I think most secrets are partners,like we're not sharing something with them that
that would be important for them toknow, Like those are the one I
mean, because otherwise maybe we keepsecrets of like things that aren't that important
for them to know. But whatabout secrets that are important for them to
know, which, like, right, cheating is one of them. Oh
that's the first thing I was goingto or yeah, or or like you're

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you know, you've a big purchasethat you didn't mention that you know could
affect you financially, or maybe it'san even at a workplace emotional relationship that
you're right, I think there's alot of that. I really do.
I think there's a lot more thanthat that we even realize. Yeah,
you know, yeah, yeah,I would say that. I would say,

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maybe secrets from the past, abad something really bad you've done,
or something really bad that's been doneto you that feels like not relevant now,
but isn't something you want to share, but you are aware that you're
not sharing it. Yeah, Idon't know, Like like I don't know,
I don't know. If you're runninginto like an ex girlfriend at the

(21:23):
store, can you just talk fortwo minutes and say, see, you
have a great day. Is thateven starting to bring up or does that
create trouble that's not necessary? Ifthere's nothing, well, that's the thing.
Are you avoiding it on purpose?That to me is the are you
hiding it on purpose? That's theplace to look. Right, Wait,
what percentage did it say? Itsaid sixty something? Do you remember it's

(21:44):
sixty I can tell you right now, I think I still have it up
sixty three or something. Sixty percent, it was sixty okay, yeah,
huh, I uh, you knowwhat. I bet the numbers actually higher
and just. But if you gavepeople a long list of things to prompt
their memories of the types of secretsthey could be keeping, I bet more

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people than sixty percent would say that. Yeah. Interesting. I don't know.
I'm also thinking about, like somepeople who know that their partner has
had like a trauma in their past, and they know something sort of vague
about it, but their partner doesn'twant to talk about it, so they
never ask, so that other personis sort of keeping a secret, but

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the other person knows that there's aquote unquote secret there to not be shared.
Yeah. I don't know. Itreally depends on what the word secret
means. Right. There's so manydifferent facets to this, and I do
want it. We got a coupleof minutes up because my alarm went off.
But okay, but oh yeah,let me show you something. I
want to tell you a very proudmoment. My son just walked in the
door. He's downstairs. He probablycan't hear me right now, but I

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just thought of something that I wantedto share with you that I Okay.
So the other day he was ina competition for the Jimmy Awards and the
top two students of the twenty toppicked from all of Sandy Diego. You
were at the awards and my friendSarah was there. She said hi to
you. Oh that's right. Iforgot to tell you that. Yes,
she was so of the compassionate race. Remember the time you thought these were

(23:11):
cock rings? Yes, that's her. Oh my god. Yes, and
she was so sweet. She's awesome. So she texted me, Yes,
she was there with her boyfriend andher daughter. Who does you know,
local theater and like community theater andstuff. Not community theater but like school
school theater. So anyway, shetexted me and she goes, I just
ran to Clint August. She wasvery excited and she said, your son
was amazing that you know what.That is so nice of her to say.

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I will tell him that message.Now here's the thing. So these
were the top twenty kids in allof San Diego that were nominated and made
it to the finals. Wow.Now the top two, one female,
one male of these twenty will goto New York to the Jimmy Awards to
compete with one hundred kids or they'reone of hundred kids for a twenty five
thousand dollars scholarship. And Jimmy meanor I don't even know, and here

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I'd ask him, he'd tell me. But it's maybe it's some guy named
Jimmy that was very impactful. Idon't know, okay, but so is.
This was on News eight, thiswas on all over social media.
So I want you to watch thislittle ten second clip of this video.
Can you see it from there?Wait? So did they all perform?
So I don't understand what? Okay, So it's all singing. This one
is all singing. Okay. Studentsthat were there that got nominated all performed,

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all sang a song on stage atthese Broadway Theater Awards in San Diego
for high school students. Yes,and there were also some shows that were
up for best Show in San Diegofor the year. For the show.
Now, there were I think therewere six or seven. My son could
tell me if you were up here, but I think there was more than

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that. There was twenty kids.I think there were six or seven shows,
two, three, four or five, six or eight something like that
shows that were nominated for Show ofthe Year. And the one that won
was the one that my son wasone of the main actors in, which
was Guys and Dolls. Oh,so that was amazing. So they announced
that winner first. Yah. Throughoutthe show, each of the kids are

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with their ensemble cast and they're performingbecause the shows are also nominated. Then
there's twenty individual kids who are upfor this Jimmy Award, one female,
one male. Well, they announcedGavin as one of the top three males.
He makes it to the top three. It was amazing. It was
absolutely amazing. But here is wherethey congratulate. Listen, my son is

(25:29):
on this side. Watch his reaction. I can't see it well enough.
Oh okay, Now here's the thing. I don't know if people can hear
that online, but they couldn't hearit. Yeah, and Spencer, I
think it's Spencer Kerns. Here's thething. So cool. It could have
gone anyway. It could have goneif my son won, if the other

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kid from the other school one,or his friend Spencer from his school,
all any of the three deserved.It could have gone any one of those
ways. Wait, so that wasyour jumping up and down, and that
is what I'm most proud about.That even though he didn't win, he
was so elated and exciting he wasI was like, I brought tears to
my eyes. Like he was literallyjumping up and down and that. I
told him, I'm more proud ofthat than any awards you would because that

(26:15):
is true support, that is truelove. He was so excited for his
friends. He was jumping up anddown as if it were him, like,
Oh, you brought tears to myeyes. That's awesome, right,
really cool, Yeah, my son, that's awesome. Yes, of course
I wanted him to win for him, yeah and all that, but to
get top three is absolutely amazing inthe first place, even top twenty,

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to be there at all, yeah, with how much theater there is and
how many people are in theater inSan Diego. But again, that was
his reaction. I wanted you tosee that because that was one of the
proudest moments of my life. Oh, that's awesome. I saw because Sarah
sent it to me, or no, maybe I looked it up online now
I can't remember, but I sawlike your I saw like the pictures,
the headshots of all of the kidsthat were in the top twenty, your

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son's head shots, Like, oh, my badass licking. I'll tell him
that that's so funny. That's great. But hey, by the way,
let me say this Mia Rivera,who is our good friend's daughter and she
also goes to school with Kevin.They're good friends. She deserved it,
man, she was awesome. Ohand Spencer again, it could have been
Spencer the other guy. I wishI knew his name, and or my

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son, any one of the three, Gaviner or any of the other things.
Yeah, they all deserved it.So it was well deserved on his
part too. Yeah, so itwasn't like he won, and in my
mind I was like, oh,man, my son should have. Any
one of the three were phenomena.But yeah, they were all good and
congratulations to them. Now, I'lltell you something else. When when Spencer
came out of the theater and Isaw him with a huge smile on his

(27:45):
face because he's such a good kid. Yeah I shouldn't say kid, young
man. Well yeah, and meis such a great young lady. But
but what I witnessed was when Spencerwalked out and it was literally like you're
standing outside of Broadway performance in NewYork. I've been there, I've seen
it. Tons of people just wantedto give these actors congratulations. Ah.
Let me tell you, when Spencerwalked out with a smile on his face,

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that was that was awesome. Butwhat was even better is when he
saw his friend's reaction, the support, the elation. He actually cried and
that made me go, that's awesome. He was that raw and that appreciative
of the support from his friends inthat moment. That was another highlight.

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It was awesome. That's awesome.You're making me cry, Clint, that's
beautiful. That's really that level oflike vulnerability and connection for others. And
well, since you met Sarah there, she taught me a word. I
believe. The word is moodita mu d t a and it means feeling

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the joy of others as your own. And that is what your son,
you know, exemplified there his friend'sjoy of winning, like he felt as
his own joy because he was sohappy for him. Well, and what
was the word moodita? Yeah,it's a great word. Sounds like a
Mexican dish. Yeah, it's alsodelicious. I want some moodita with some

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cheese. Oh, like molay.It's like a really good Molay dish.
Okay, let me tell you aboutthis real quick. First time I tried
molay was not having and I waslike, nope, not for me,
No, No. Then I triedit at swear te at Sequon Casina Resort.
Really they're chips. Oh. Theyhave a Mexican fook place called Square
Tea, great drink, great everything. You should go there. But oh

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my god, the mole at thatmulet. I was like, oh,
this is molay. So whatever Ihad before, I don't know if it
was the good stuff or not.It wasn't good to me. But this
one, that tiny hint of chocolate. Oh oh. I looked at my
wife and I said, I didn'tthink I was a fan of molay.
Now I am, Oh so good. I had the best down in the

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Yucatan Penins in Mexico a few years. Food was so in Meredia is the
name of the town. Oh mygod. It was so good. Anyway,
not exactly what moodita is. ButI think we're we're feeling joy in
each other's joy of eating right now. So I guess that's still exemplifying that
word. So you just made thefood. Oh nope, I won't say

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it. You just made me hungry. Ah, I almost said rhymes with
cat kid. You made the almost. I like cat though, not to
eat cat. No, no,it's just like cat boy. All right.
I don't know what we just did, but I think we're done here. Okay,