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Speaker 1 (00:00):
As you know, the Pope's funeral was this past weekend
in Rome, and joining us now live from Rome our
Fox Courts founded Jonathan Savage, Jonathan, Welcome in, Hi there,
good morning, So long ceremony and lots of people in attendance.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Yeah, a two hour mass witnessed by two hundred and
fifty thousand people according to the Vatican, packed into St.
Peter Square in the Vatican City itself, and then all
down the avenue that stretches into Rome. For I get
about a quarter or half mile absolute sea of humanity, reflecting,
of course, the respects felt for Paul Francis, but they're
(00:35):
also the love and admiration that I sensed from the
people who were here, who came from all over the world.
Some came specially for the funeral. I spoke to a
ninety one year old man who's flown in from Scotland
for the funeral. But some were teenagers here as well.
There was generations of families here for the funeral, and
some were just curious tourists who wanted to be part
of history. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
With that many people there, I would imagine security was
quite prevalent. Did you notice a big change.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
There, Yeah, when you arrived at the area around where
the funeral was taking place. There were back searches, there
were metal detectors, and there were many, many hundreds of
volunteers in bright red or yellow outfits and civil protection
volunteers who were assisting. There was It was a fairly
light touch security, I have to say, considering I think
(01:21):
there was an awful lot happening that was unseen. There
were snipers, there were fighter jets on standby, But the
conducted of security in a way that it facilitated the
people allowed them to come and celebrate the life of
port Frantice rather than feel that they had to jump
through too many hooks.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yeah, now the popo lion state and how long will
that be?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Well? The pope lane state before the funeral. After the funeral,
he was taken in a procession across the city to
his chosen resting place, the Basilica of Saint Mary Major.
He's the first pope in over one hundred years not
to be buried in the Vatican City itself, and after
he was laid to rest, tens of thousands of people
chewed up to fire passes too.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
I was under the impression after the funeral on Saturday Sunday,
he would actually lie stayed for a little bit, but
not so.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
No, the lions, they happened before the funeral. And now
he's been literresque.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
And now I understand the conclave is not going to
start until May seventh. What takes place between now and then?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Now the Vatican is in nine days of official morning novemdas,
and it was decided that the conclayt wouldn't begin until
after that was over. And then I don't know why
they've hadded a couple of extra days on there as well,
But it will start on Wednesday, May seventh, so there
can be a series of masses, a series of memorials
(02:35):
taking place over the next week or so, allowing the
Vatican to respect the memory of Pope Francis. In the meantime,
the Vatican seems like business as usual. I'm surrounded by
thousands of tourists as they usually would be, visiting some
Peter Square, visiting the Basilica and the Vatican museums.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
As many cardinals that have come in, not all of
them will actually participate in selecting the new.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Pub correct, that's correct. There are around two hundred and
fifty cardinals but only those under the age of eighty
will take part in the papal conclay where they select
a new pope. That means it's about one hundred and
thirty five, although we believe two or three of them
may be too ill to take part, bringing that number
down further. Interestingly, Pope Francis himself appointed eighty percent roughly
(03:21):
of the cardinals who will take part in choosing his successor,
so his legacy will be felt in the conflict.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
And how long do you anticipate once the conclave begins
that it will take a few days.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Paul Francis was elected in less than twenty four hours.
With Paul Benedict, I think it was two or three days,
and it will take as long as it takes. They
can have up to four votes a day, and once
a candidate gets sixty seven percent of the ballot, then
he is elected to cope.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I know people say, you know, you don't want to
try and guess on this, because you'll be wrong, and
the surprise may come that whoever you think may be
in the lead for this will not even be closed.
It'll be somebody out of left field. Has there been
discussion on the front runners is that still take place
even though they've all been told on to that because
(04:09):
you'll be wrong.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yeah, there are discussions taking places about the front runners.
But the problem is this is an incredibly difficult race
to call. You might say. One of the reasons is
because of pok France's appointing so many cardinals. He appointed
them from all over the world. He really went for
diversity of background in terms of cardinals from Africa, from Asia,
(04:33):
from Latin America as well as from Europe. So we've
never had a more geographically diverse lineup in the paper conclict.
That makes it hard to predict exactly which direction they're
going to go in.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
All right, very good, Jonathan Savage, thank you so much.
I appreciate you buddy, Live from Rome this morning,
As you know, the Pope's funeral was this past weekend
in Rome, and joining us now live from Rome our
Fox Courts founded Jonathan Savage, Jonathan, Welcome in, Hi there,
good morning, So long ceremony and lots of people in attendance.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Yeah, a two hour mass witnessed by two hundred and
fifty thousand people according to the Vatican, packed into St.
Peter Square in the Vatican City itself, and then all
down the avenue that stretches into Rome. For I get
about a quarter or half mile absolute sea of humanity, reflecting,
of course, the respects felt for Paul Francis, but they're
(00:35):
also the love and admiration that I sensed from the
people who were here, who came from all over the world.
Some came specially for the funeral. I spoke to a
ninety one year old man who's flown in from Scotland
for the funeral. But some were teenagers here as well.
There was generations of families here for the funeral, and
some were just curious tourists who wanted to be part
of history. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
With that many people there, I would imagine security was
quite prevalent. Did you notice a big change.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
There, Yeah, when you arrived at the area around where
the funeral was taking place. There were back searches, there
were metal detectors, and there were many, many hundreds of
volunteers in bright red or yellow outfits and civil protection
volunteers who were assisting. There was It was a fairly
light touch security, I have to say, considering I think
(01:21):
there was an awful lot happening that was unseen. There
were snipers, there were fighter jets on standby, But the
conducted of security in a way that it facilitated the
people allowed them to come and celebrate the life of
port Frantice rather than feel that they had to jump
through too many hooks.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yeah, now the popo lion state and how long will
that be?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Well? The pope lane state before the funeral. After the funeral,
he was taken in a procession across the city to
his chosen resting place, the Basilica of Saint Mary Major.
He's the first pope in over one hundred years not
to be buried in the Vatican City itself, and after
he was laid to rest, tens of thousands of people
chewed up to fire passes too.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
I was under the impression after the funeral on Saturday Sunday,
he would actually lie stayed for a little bit, but
not so.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
No, the lions, they happened before the funeral. And now
he's been literresque.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
And now I understand the conclave is not going to
start until May seventh. What takes place between now and then?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Now the Vatican is in nine days of official morning novemdas,
and it was decided that the conclayt wouldn't begin until
after that was over. And then I don't know why
they've hadded a couple of extra days on there as well,
But it will start on Wednesday, May seventh, so there
can be a series of masses, a series of memorials
(02:35):
taking place over the next week or so, allowing the
Vatican to respect the memory of Pope Francis. In the meantime,
the Vatican seems like business as usual. I'm surrounded by
thousands of tourists as they usually would be, visiting some
Peter Square, visiting the Basilica and the Vatican museums.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
As many cardinals that have come in, not all of
them will actually participate in selecting the new.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Pub correct, that's correct. There are around two hundred and
fifty cardinals but only those under the age of eighty
will take part in the papal conclay where they select
a new pope. That means it's about one hundred and
thirty five, although we believe two or three of them
may be too ill to take part, bringing that number
down further. Interestingly, Pope Francis himself appointed eighty percent roughly
(03:21):
of the cardinals who will take part in choosing his successor,
so his legacy will be felt in the conflict.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
And how long do you anticipate once the conclave begins
that it will take a few days.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Paul Francis was elected in less than twenty four hours.
With Paul Benedict, I think it was two or three days,
and it will take as long as it takes. They
can have up to four votes a day, and once
a candidate gets sixty seven percent of the ballot, then
he is elected to cope.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I know people say, you know, you don't want to
try and guess on this, because you'll be wrong, and
the surprise may come that whoever you think may be
in the lead for this will not even be closed.
It'll be somebody out of left field. Has there been
discussion on the front runners is that still take place
even though they've all been told on to that because
(04:09):
you'll be wrong.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yeah, there are discussions taking places about the front runners.
But the problem is this is an incredibly difficult race
to call. You might say. One of the reasons is
because of pok France's appointing so many cardinals. He appointed
them from all over the world. He really went for
diversity of background in terms of cardinals from Africa, from Asia,
(04:33):
from Latin America as well as from Europe. So we've
never had a more geographically diverse lineup in the paper conclict.
That makes it hard to predict exactly which direction they're
going to go in.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
All right, very good, Jonathan Savage, thank you so much.
I appreciate you buddy, Live from Rome this morning,
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