April 13, 2025 • 45 mins
Gary wraps up Sunday with your calls and questions.
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Speaker 1 (00:33):
Well the weekends upon is welcome. You're at home with
Garry Sulvan. Thanks for joining me another hour getting some
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We'll continue with your calls and let's start with Ron
Ron welcome.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Thank you Gary. I have a deck question. Okay, it
is a deck that's nine or ten years old, probably
six or seven years ago. I'm told it had a
semi transparent staying put on it and nothing since.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I have.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Heard of a company called Imperial Deck Solutions out of Indianapolis.
They are a sister company to Rhinal Shield, and they
put on a ceramic blasphemer coating on decks, pergolo's wood fences,
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things like that. They say they would send it down,
put on two coats of the ceramic coating and then
a clear top coat that would have an anti skid
agent in it has a ten year warnedy. It's expensive
(02:47):
that in my situation, if it would last for twelve
or fifteen years before we needed to even consider it
recoat in it, I'd be thrilled. And I just wonder
if you had any thoughts on something like this.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
So, what is the warranty for ten years? What's that cover.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Everything?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Okay, labor? So is that fading or is that healing?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Or Yeah, if for example, I dropped the bowling ball
on it and cause it to crack, that would not
be covered. But just about anything else you can think of,
including hale is covered.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Well, you know, I talk about Rhino's Shield a lone.
In fact, I have Rhiner's Shield on my house. But
I'll be honest with you, I'm not familiar with their
deck coding, so I don't know if I can really offer,
but I made a note of it, and I am
going to find out all about it because I'm very
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satisfied with the coding they put on my home, which
is now probably about eight years old. It looks as
good as it did. The deck had it done right,
but it looks just like a painted house. I mean
they did all the true work, and the side of
the house. I mean it's fine. Decks are a little
bit different. They're kind of a different animal. And I
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noticed that their warranties different. You know, the house warranties
twenty five years, the deck warranties ten. So before I
could really give you an opinion, I'll be honest with you,
I just got to look into it. I'd like to
learn a little bit more about it. I don't know
if it's a breathable coating. I don't know if it's
necessary to have a breathable coating. I don't know how
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thick it is. You say it has a little bit
of a texture, or you did not say that.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
It is an anti slip pop coat.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Okay, okay, so that's clear.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Apparently that comes in different degrees. You can get it
more or less unslipt as you wish.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
M hm, Well that's interesting. Well I'm going to have
to learn more about that because my understanding is I
think they also have a subsidiary company that's also doing
garage floors. So I got to get a little more
updated on that before I offer an opinion, because I
do always like to either try things out or you know,
get the information rate from the horse's mouth, if you will.
(05:42):
It's intriguing. I'm intrigued. I talked yesterday there's a company
out I think I see it on social media called
Permaciel where they put clear coatings on decks, and I
was I've seen that several times this week, and I thought, boy,
I'm going to get a call on that because I
know it's got like a fifteen year warrant team might
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even be longer net And there's been several companies that
have rolled that product out, and several of them they
just kind of fade away, and I know they're expensive.
A friend of mine had it done and that wasn't
the name of the company, so but it was that
same type of genre and it kept it. It kept
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that deck in really good shape for about twelve years.
So some of this stuff, you know, sounds too good
to be true, but it is true. So I got
to check that out before I put my stamp on it,
if you.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Will, okay, and just go on more quick question. If
I could sure concerning rhino shield, it seems like that
should make a fairly decent rooping product, and that she
would be afraid of something like hail damage.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yeah, well, I can ask that question. I have not
heard anybody using it on roofing.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
But uh so.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
I got a couple questions. I got decks, and I
got roofing, and I got a garage floor. So I'll
see what's going on, and I'm sure in the next
few weeks we'll have a discussion about all that.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Okay, thank you.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
All right, you bet, thank you appreciate it. I yeah,
well that's interesting. I did not know about a decking product.
I did know about the garage floor product, but I
don't know much about that either, just the pended house product,
which I'm yeah, they cost a little bit more, but
where else you're cann get a twenty five year warranty
in also for the house, he said, ceramic, there's some
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insulating qualities there, there's some heat resistant qualities there, So
that is certainly an option, but adhesion that is the
That's the thing with decks. And I've been I say,
I've been playing the deck game for a long time,
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and I mean a long time. When pressure treated wood
first came to the marketplace, I was a young man
and the claim was is there is a wood now
that will never ever ever have to be painted, It
will never ever ever have to be stained, it will
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never ever have insect issues. Wow, this is the greatest
thing in the world. Five years later, there was no
deck sealers, and people didn't know what they were buying,
and they were painting it, and the paint was peeling off,
and the wood was turning gray and it was starting
to split, and all of a sudden there was deck sealers.
(08:53):
After about eight to ten years in the marketplace, they
realized wasn't the water that was doing all this damage.
It was the sun. It was the UV rays of
the sun. That water and treatment was infused into the wood.
Right out, it split, it turned grade, it had splinters,
and right away all the deck sealers started trying to
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sell you waterproofing. And it took another five years and
then they started putting in UV blockers. It was literally,
if memory serves me correct, and I believe it does,
it was pretty much twelve fifteen years before they figured
out the whole sun thing. They had the protectance for
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pressure treated wood which contained water proofing and wax. So
you put that on and there was all this water
that beat it up on a deck and you went, wow,
it looks awesome. It did, but it didn't protect what
the problem was. So I want to check a little
further and see where we are on that. All right, well,
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you're at home with Gary Salvin and we're talking about
your home projects and taking that walk around the home
and got into a couple of good discussions, some painful
discussions actually about decks and sealers and different things. There's
nothing worse or for me, there's nothing worse when somebody
starts talking to me about using different deck coatings solid
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color stains, which I really like. I want to get
into that too, Bill, I'll get to you in a second.
But when you're using a coating on anything, you just
got to make sure that preparation is so key. We
were quickly going back when the rhino shield. Those products
are not only a product, but they are applied. So
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that's good. You know, you got experts that know the product,
playing it properly and prepping it properly also, But whenever
you put a coating, it's a coating, it's subject appealing.
All right, Bill, welcome Berry is there.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Thank you for taking my call. I got a question
about how I can get some spray paint that was
put on my sidewalk and my driveway. When these people
were putting underground cables.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
In those will fade away you went them off now though, right.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Well, I've had three different cable companies. One I don't
know why our city I live in Worcester, why they
didn't get together and do one thing, but the first
one to put in and I've got blue on my
driveway and sidewalk. It has been in there a year.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
And a half. Okay, so that was that's blue, that's
the water.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Yeah, and all the orange went away and the red
went away, but not the blue. I don't know if
they ran out blue and ran up the wall mark
got can of regular rust elium and splayed it because
they're not supposed to use that because it's no, it
doesn't know.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
There's marketing, don't you know there's marking paints that are
just degrading. Right, you're exactly right. The yellow and the
red you say it faded and it did its job.
Why the blue isn't. I don't know either. Do you
know who did the markings or no?
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Yes, I do, Well, they subcontract out to somebody else,
you know that goes these cable companies they get I
don't know if they run up the lows and get well,
I don't know either the workers to do it or.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Yeah, I don't know either. So what's your question?
Speaker 4 (15:40):
What's the best way to get the blue off? Pressure washer?
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Yeah? I would probably. Now I start off today's show
saying how you got to be careful using a pressure
washer on concrete on wood, and I maintain that, But
if you're going to use a pressure washer on concrete.
You got a large margin of error on would you
have a small margin of error? So I would use
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a pressure washer two thousand psi twenty four hundred psi.
The trick is i'd keep the nozzle instead of eighteen
inches away, I'd probably keep it six inches away. What
angle on the nozzle straight up? Oh, the degree of nozzle,
I'd probably start with it twenty five and you could
(16:27):
probably go down to a fifteen Okay, but if you
go twenty five about you know, four to six inches away,
see if that does it. Otherwise, maybe get the fifteen degree.
Also depends on what you know. What's the size of
the pressure worsher two two thousand or three thousand, So
you if it's two thousand and then you got it four
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to six inches away and a twenty five degree nozzle's
not working, I'd knock it down to a fifteen degree
nozzle and see how it does.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
Okay, Well, I comment on yesterday you were talking about
putting water down floor drains. Okay, and well, I was
starting to smell something in the basement and there's a
drain that's behind my HVAC unit which has the hollows
goes into it. From the air conditioner, but with the
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air conditioner not running, it tends to drat. I never
thought about putting water down that drain.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
So yeah, you know, and that's that's important, you know,
because that's what's kind of keeping the sewer gas out
of your home, right, you know, I do want to
add one more thing on that blue thing. You could
also get some graffiti remover and that on there, follow
the directions and scrub. That might be a good remedy
for that. Also, do you get that a paint store
(17:45):
or yeah, yeah, you get a paint store, hardware.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Store graffiti remover. Okay, I hadn't thought of that, so
I assume that this paint's got to be oil days
or something that, yeah, to this to this point, so
I appreciate it's a graffiti.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
All right, very good, Thank you much for the call.
Appreciate it. Yeah, those paints, I get that call periodically
where people Obviously, if it's sitting there for a year
and a half, i'd be kind of honked off too.
But those are those spray paints. They do them across sidewalks,
they'll do them across driveways, they'll do them across your lawn. Obviously,
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the lawns are not really an issue. The grass may
be painted red, but as the grass grows, you're gonna
mow that off. Plus the paint's going to break down
on the sidewalks. It really is designed to break down.
It's if the proper paint is used for those markings,
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it should not be a problem. I can't tell you.
I can't remember, and they don't know if I asked
how long those markings last. But I don't think it's
over a year, and I haven't had one right across
my driveway peat or over a I'd walk on the
side of the house, so it didn't really bother me.
But again, a pressure washer. Yeah, but graffiti remover is
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a good product for removing that. I am sure, because
that's what a lot of graffiti's done is with spray paint. Also,
chalking down on a brick house, graffiti remover, that's a
good way to clean that brick up. Also, all right,
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Home with Gary Sullivan. All right, back here we go,
we got bill Bill welcome. Thank you, yes, sir.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
Thanks for taking my call. I have a older home
that we purchased several years ago, and last fall we
had it had the bedrooms painted, and I noticed after
probably several months later, they started to crack in the
paint on the ceiling. Now and the crack kept growing,
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and eventually a piece fell off, now a piece of paint,
and it was probably an eighth of an inch thick.
I noticed there was powdery on the interior part, and
I think it was originally lastered. So is there anything
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I can do to besides scraping the whole ceiling off?
To fix it.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
I don't know. I got some questions. So this is
this is the the ceiling on a home that was
I don't know, eighty to one hundred.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
Years old, about in nineteen sixty, so it's fairly.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Nineteen sixty, Okay, all right, I was kind of an
older home because it is plaster.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
Right, it is plastered. Yeah, and it was the the
interior part of the paint that fell off felt powdery. Yeah,
and I think I think it was you. I think
it was plaster.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
I'm not sure, but yeah, Yeah, is this on you say,
the ceiling? Is it on the Is it near the
wall and the ceiling on an outside wall?
Speaker 5 (24:55):
No, it's more interior, away from the away from the wall.
Maybe some of it's even in the center of the room.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Okay, okay.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
And that ceiling, I look, there's no you know, no
moisture can come through.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
That.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
The ceiling isn't coded with you know, it doesn't look
wet like I had been wet or anything.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Well, to answer your question, how much of that ceiling
is peeling or the paint that's feeling how much?
Speaker 5 (25:33):
Well, in one spot, it's in one bedroom, it's probably
two six inch spots maybe six inches across, kind of
a circle, not quite a circle, but there's two or three.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Of them, okay. And how many rooms are affected?
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Two? Two bedrooms?
Speaker 5 (25:56):
Why is it only has you know, a couple of
spots and then one the other has two places where
that's maybe four feet across.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Are those bedrooms side by side?
Speaker 5 (26:13):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Okay, okay. So in difference to what you say, I
believe there was a water problem, maybe not anymore. And
what it is, it's one or two things. When moisture
gets into concrete or plaster, there is lime involved, and
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there are salts involved. And you hear us talk a
lot about efflorescence. So when you think about it, really,
that plaster is sixty five years old, and over the years,
even if it had a little bit of water, it's aging.
It's not disintegrating, it's aging. It's becoming compromised, and that
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efflorescence is pushing that pain off. In nineteen sixty, most
of the paints that we used, most of the paints,
not all the paints. Latex paints were invented and they
were starting to be used, but oil based paints were
the primary source of paints. In Oil based paints were
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not breathable. Today's paints are wouldn't allow the water vapor
to penetrate, and it would just kind of sit there.
It would be trapped. Either the paint would peel or
the water would be there for an extended period of time,
allowing again that plaster to absorb it and to start
(27:44):
a process of creating efflorescence. Efflorescences when water is added
to lime or salted blooms, it's like salt crystals, and
over time even humidity. Now, even that paint's breathable, but
if that first is oil, it's still not breathable, right,
And it's probably also getting brittle the pain itself because
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that first layer, I think you said during the conversation
that it was the paint was peeling all the way
down to the plaster was about an eighth inch thick.
And that kind of all makes sense. So do you
have to scrape the whole wall down? You know, I
don't know. Ideally, I guess you would take all the
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paint off, but I know you don't want to do that,
So what you can do? I grew up in a
house that was built in the late forties, and my
job was about every four years with dad was to
scrape off the paint off the front wall of a
brick house that faced the southwest, and that moisture would
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get into that plaster. And we had the same problems.
And every five years we scraped the paint off and
we patched a crack, and we cleaned it, and we
primed it, and we painted it. If you were going
to eliminate this whole issue, I would say you would
strip that whole get all that paint off, either mechanically
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or chemically, and then you would clean it with a
good efflorescence, a mild acid and clean all that efflorescence
off and use a coat of acrylic primer and use
two coats of self priming acrylic paints. And you might
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go fifteen years before that process continues, okay. So or
or we can go ahead and scrape off all the
loose paint that we can scrape off, and we could
use some dry wall topping compound kind of smooth it
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out where there's a difference in heights, and we could
put an acrylic you wouldn't You could put in a
crillic primer over the ceiling, and you know, two coats
of a self priming paint and it will be as
good as the paint that's beneath it, because once it
dilaminates from the plaster, it's going to bring the paint
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with it, right, So, yes, you know, and so in
a way, what I'm telling you is that process is
never going to stop. Whether you scrape it all the
way off, prime it and paint it, or whether you
spot treat it and paint it. You know, it's gonna
be good for a while. But that plaster is old
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and there is efflorescence, and it will keep showing its
ugly head over time. It will be slower, but you know,
the chances of it always occurring is is pretty strong.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
Okay, I guess I need to make a decision on that.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Well, there's options. Okay, there's options. I'll give you those two.
Just say, you know, I mean, there is wall liners
that can be installed over old plaster. It's like a
heavy I must say fabric, but heavy being probably as
thick as the coat of paint that's peeling off that
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you can literally attach it. It looks like drywall, it
looks like stipple paint. It can look like a herring bone,
It can look whatever you want and that can be
installed over the ceiling and you're basically bearing the problem.
You can put quarter inch drywall over that existing plaster
and bearing it. There are decorative ceiling tiles that are
(31:43):
as thin as a piece of paper, and you could
make that ceiling ornate. You could make it look like
a copper ceiling, a pewter ceiling, a wood ceiling which
can be just installed with dollops of glue and they
butt up. There's no track. It's go on to website.
I think it's Decorative Ceiling Tiles dot com. There's thousands
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of different patterns, so you can hide it. You know,
you don't have to. So a lot of it is
depending on how much you want to work, what the
finished results are going to look like, and there's options.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
Okay, all righty, well, thank you.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
You're quite welcome. Thanks for the call. I appreciate it.
All right, let's take a break. We've got Linda and
Cheryl as we continue. You're at home with Gary Sullivan.
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We got Linda, Linda, welcome, Hi Garry.
Speaker 6 (35:51):
I have been working on getting some wall paper out
of my bathroom. But now what's my next step? I say,
I got glue.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
On the wall.
Speaker 6 (35:58):
Now we're con painted, really want to paint it, but.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
You got to do both. You got to get the
glue off and you can go ahead and paint it.
If you don't get the glue off, when you paint it,
that glue will liquefy and it'll bleed through the final
code of paint and that's not going to make you happy.
Speaker 6 (36:17):
But you know, the walls are kind of crummy, so
just put some sand paper, run some sand.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Paper on there, and probably better quite honestly, to wipe
it down to liquefy it and remove it rather than
sand it, because even any residue really can bleed through.
And a lot of people make the mistake of tearing
off the wallpaper and you're so happy it's gone. It's off,
and they don't rinse that wall down and then bleeds
(36:43):
through the paint job, and then you've sealed that in,
which is a big problem. So you can get a
product called diff DF. Mix it with hot water and
spray it all over the wall. Let it sit about.
It's it's diff wallpaper remover.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
Wallpaper remover.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Okay, okay, And you spray it all over the wall,
let it sit, follow the directions, and then you rinse
it off and and and you've removed that glue. I've
also had people tell me, uh, dish washing, uh not
dish washing, fabric softener, fabric softener, put that on there,
(37:29):
that'll dissolve the glue. But it's an enzyme glue remover,
but very important. I think even vinegar and water with
some liquid soap may do it. I've always used the
dif it's inexpensive, mix it with water, spray it on,
rinse it real good after it sits and does its
does its thing, and yeah, you'll you'll be able to
(37:50):
see where you've removed it pretty easily.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Okay, great, thank you, all right.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Good luck, take care bye bye. Yeah, old wallpaper even
and nine. No, there's a lot of updating from the
big rage of the eighties. What was that wallpaper borders
eighties nineties or early two thousands maybe then it's kind
of out of style. Start taking those off. They come
off pretty easy, but they don't remove the adhesive. Then
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they paint the wall. It bleeds through. Cheryl Welcome, Well,
Hi Gary Hike.
Speaker 7 (38:27):
My question is about extending a water spicket so that
it can be turned off, like outside the frame of
our deck rather than right at the house. And so
we have a we bought a house in Michigan and
it has a really large deck that's about two feet
off the ground and currently the water'spicket. We have an
access panel in the deck to be able to access
(38:49):
the water. So it would be really handy to be
able to turn the water on and off without going
up on the deck and accessing you know, lifting that
access panel.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
M hm, Well you can what what type of pipe
you got? Copper pipe, so you can certainly do that.
The question is the big question is I would like
to have that connection to that spicket done inside the house.
(39:23):
And I think that's where it kind of comes into play,
because what are you going to do? I mean, do
you go up there in the winter time? You go
up there I mean, is this in your house or
is this a cabin or something. It's in your house. Okay,
So what you want to do, I mean, do you
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turn off the water now going to the spickett outside
in the fall and winter?
Speaker 7 (39:52):
We do?
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Yeah, okay there?
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Well inside, Okay, So if you can really once you
start putting copper pipe with water on the outside, it's
it's it's vulnerable to freeze. Right yeah. So I don't
know when you shut your water down, but like today
(40:17):
where I'm at, it's going to be sixty two degrees,
but tomorrow morning it's going to be thirty five. And
if it's gonna and last week there was a day
when down to twenty five. I mean, so if that
water's in the house right now and then you've got
a frostproof faucet on the outside, it's not going to freeze.
(40:39):
But if we run a pipe out there and then
connect the pipe, that water and that pipe's going to freeze.
So if you can I don't know where that goes
through the foundation, if you can take that and you know,
shut off the water, cut the pipe, put an elbow in,
put a a vertical copper pipe, and then take a
(41:05):
horizontal pipe out through the wall and put that frostproof
faucet through that hole and still make your connection inside
with Yeah, and you can even probably still use the
same valve. You're okay, But I don't want you to
take off that faucet that's outside now and run the
(41:26):
copper pipe up the side of the house and then
put the faucet there, because there'll be some night you're
going to get tricked and then water and that pipe
will freeze.
Speaker 7 (41:38):
That's what we're afraid of. And right now, you know,
we don't turn on the water to that like until
it's consistently warm, So we don't have it on right now,
and we figure it's probably going to be a couple
more weeks at least before we can do that.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Is there any when you look inside your house, are
you as high up off the foundation of the house
that you can go on the inside?
Speaker 7 (42:04):
We are, it's at our basement ceiling.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
Yeah. Yeah, So that's the issue. So you know, you
can go outside, you can run copper pipe, but you
can't you can't turn that You know, you can't turn
that water on until you're safely out of the free zone,
and you better have it shut off when you're back
(42:29):
in that free zone. Because it's exposed. You can put
insulation on it, but you know, you can put heating
tape on it. But it's it's a little bit of
a gamble, that's all. You've got to be aware of
what you're doing there.
Speaker 7 (42:45):
Just Well, would it be possible to like have our
frost free spickett where we have it now and do
some kind of extension so that we had a suckond
thicket out at the face of our deck or with that.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Uh and with the pop pipe on the outside of
the house. Yeah, I guess on the inside you could, uh,
you could put in you could put a t or
an elbow off the existing pipe. It'd be a tea
where you know, you cut the pipe on the inside.
(43:22):
You'd put that piece of copper in that would connect
to the frost proof and then off the other side
of the tee. You could have a pipe with a
valve and an elbow and going through the wall and
then going up. Yeah, I mean you could can you
(43:44):
could you could finagle something like that?
Speaker 7 (43:46):
Yes, gotcha? Okay, Well, I think the way you talked
about it makes sense an initial way.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
All right, Well, good luck and Uh yeah, if you
go on that direction, just don't forget because it's exposed.
All right, Danny boy, another weekend. Thank you very much
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We'll continue with your calls and let's start with Ron
Ron welcome.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Thank you Gary. I have a deck question. Okay, it
is a deck that's nine or ten years old, probably
six or seven years ago. I'm told it had a
semi transparent staying put on it and nothing since.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I have.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Heard of a company called Imperial Deck Solutions out of Indianapolis.
They are a sister company to Rhinal Shield, and they
put on a ceramic blasphemer coating on decks, pergolo's wood fences,
(02:20):
things like that. They say they would send it down,
put on two coats of the ceramic coating and then
a clear top coat that would have an anti skid
agent in it has a ten year warnedy. It's expensive
(02:47):
that in my situation, if it would last for twelve
or fifteen years before we needed to even consider it
recoat in it, I'd be thrilled. And I just wonder
if you had any thoughts on something like this.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
So, what is the warranty for ten years? What's that cover.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Everything?
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Okay, labor? So is that fading or is that healing?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Or Yeah, if for example, I dropped the bowling ball
on it and cause it to crack, that would not
be covered. But just about anything else you can think of,
including hale is covered.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Well, you know, I talk about Rhino's Shield a lone.
In fact, I have Rhiner's Shield on my house. But
I'll be honest with you, I'm not familiar with their
deck coding, so I don't know if I can really offer,
but I made a note of it, and I am
going to find out all about it because I'm very
(04:08):
satisfied with the coding they put on my home, which
is now probably about eight years old. It looks as
good as it did. The deck had it done right,
but it looks just like a painted house. I mean
they did all the true work, and the side of
the house. I mean it's fine. Decks are a little
bit different. They're kind of a different animal. And I
(04:32):
noticed that their warranties different. You know, the house warranties
twenty five years, the deck warranties ten. So before I
could really give you an opinion, I'll be honest with you,
I just got to look into it. I'd like to
learn a little bit more about it. I don't know
if it's a breathable coating. I don't know if it's
necessary to have a breathable coating. I don't know how
(04:53):
thick it is. You say it has a little bit
of a texture, or you did not say that.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
It is an anti slip pop coat.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Okay, okay, so that's clear.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Apparently that comes in different degrees. You can get it
more or less unslipt as you wish.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
M hm, Well that's interesting. Well I'm going to have
to learn more about that because my understanding is I
think they also have a subsidiary company that's also doing
garage floors. So I got to get a little more
updated on that before I offer an opinion, because I
do always like to either try things out or you know,
get the information rate from the horse's mouth, if you will.
(05:42):
It's intriguing. I'm intrigued. I talked yesterday there's a company
out I think I see it on social media called
Permaciel where they put clear coatings on decks, and I
was I've seen that several times this week, and I thought, boy,
I'm going to get a call on that because I
know it's got like a fifteen year warrant team might
(06:03):
even be longer net And there's been several companies that
have rolled that product out, and several of them they
just kind of fade away, and I know they're expensive.
A friend of mine had it done and that wasn't
the name of the company, so but it was that
same type of genre and it kept it. It kept
(06:25):
that deck in really good shape for about twelve years.
So some of this stuff, you know, sounds too good
to be true, but it is true. So I got
to check that out before I put my stamp on it,
if you.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Will, okay, and just go on more quick question. If
I could sure concerning rhino shield, it seems like that
should make a fairly decent rooping product, and that she
would be afraid of something like hail damage.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yeah, well, I can ask that question. I have not
heard anybody using it on roofing.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
But uh so.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
I got a couple questions. I got decks, and I
got roofing, and I got a garage floor. So I'll
see what's going on, and I'm sure in the next
few weeks we'll have a discussion about all that.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Okay, thank you.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
All right, you bet, thank you appreciate it. I yeah,
well that's interesting. I did not know about a decking product.
I did know about the garage floor product, but I
don't know much about that either, just the pended house product,
which I'm yeah, they cost a little bit more, but
where else you're cann get a twenty five year warranty
in also for the house, he said, ceramic, there's some
(07:45):
insulating qualities there, there's some heat resistant qualities there, So
that is certainly an option, but adhesion that is the
That's the thing with decks. And I've been I say,
I've been playing the deck game for a long time,
(08:07):
and I mean a long time. When pressure treated wood
first came to the marketplace, I was a young man
and the claim was is there is a wood now
that will never ever ever have to be painted, It
will never ever ever have to be stained, it will
(08:30):
never ever have insect issues. Wow, this is the greatest
thing in the world. Five years later, there was no
deck sealers, and people didn't know what they were buying,
and they were painting it, and the paint was peeling off,
and the wood was turning gray and it was starting
to split, and all of a sudden there was deck sealers.
(08:53):
After about eight to ten years in the marketplace, they
realized wasn't the water that was doing all this damage.
It was the sun. It was the UV rays of
the sun. That water and treatment was infused into the wood.
Right out, it split, it turned grade, it had splinters,
and right away all the deck sealers started trying to
(09:15):
sell you waterproofing. And it took another five years and
then they started putting in UV blockers. It was literally,
if memory serves me correct, and I believe it does,
it was pretty much twelve fifteen years before they figured
out the whole sun thing. They had the protectance for
(09:37):
pressure treated wood which contained water proofing and wax. So
you put that on and there was all this water
that beat it up on a deck and you went, wow,
it looks awesome. It did, but it didn't protect what
the problem was. So I want to check a little
further and see where we are on that. All right, well,
(09:58):
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you're at home with Gary Salvin and we're talking about
your home projects and taking that walk around the home
and got into a couple of good discussions, some painful
discussions actually about decks and sealers and different things. There's
nothing worse or for me, there's nothing worse when somebody
starts talking to me about using different deck coatings solid
(13:33):
color stains, which I really like. I want to get
into that too, Bill, I'll get to you in a second.
But when you're using a coating on anything, you just
got to make sure that preparation is so key. We
were quickly going back when the rhino shield. Those products
are not only a product, but they are applied. So
(13:56):
that's good. You know, you got experts that know the product,
playing it properly and prepping it properly also, But whenever
you put a coating, it's a coating, it's subject appealing.
All right, Bill, welcome Berry is there.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Thank you for taking my call. I got a question
about how I can get some spray paint that was
put on my sidewalk and my driveway. When these people
were putting underground cables.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
In those will fade away you went them off now though, right.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Well, I've had three different cable companies. One I don't
know why our city I live in Worcester, why they
didn't get together and do one thing, but the first
one to put in and I've got blue on my
driveway and sidewalk. It has been in there a year.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
And a half. Okay, so that was that's blue, that's
the water.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Yeah, and all the orange went away and the red
went away, but not the blue. I don't know if
they ran out blue and ran up the wall mark
got can of regular rust elium and splayed it because
they're not supposed to use that because it's no, it
doesn't know.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
There's marketing, don't you know there's marking paints that are
just degrading. Right, you're exactly right. The yellow and the
red you say it faded and it did its job.
Why the blue isn't. I don't know either. Do you
know who did the markings or no?
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Yes, I do, Well, they subcontract out to somebody else,
you know that goes these cable companies they get I
don't know if they run up the lows and get well,
I don't know either the workers to do it or.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Yeah, I don't know either. So what's your question?
Speaker 4 (15:40):
What's the best way to get the blue off? Pressure washer?
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Yeah? I would probably. Now I start off today's show
saying how you got to be careful using a pressure
washer on concrete on wood, and I maintain that, But
if you're going to use a pressure washer on concrete.
You got a large margin of error on would you
have a small margin of error? So I would use
(16:04):
a pressure washer two thousand psi twenty four hundred psi.
The trick is i'd keep the nozzle instead of eighteen
inches away, I'd probably keep it six inches away. What
angle on the nozzle straight up? Oh, the degree of nozzle,
I'd probably start with it twenty five and you could
(16:27):
probably go down to a fifteen Okay, but if you
go twenty five about you know, four to six inches away,
see if that does it. Otherwise, maybe get the fifteen degree.
Also depends on what you know. What's the size of
the pressure worsher two two thousand or three thousand, So
you if it's two thousand and then you got it four
(16:48):
to six inches away and a twenty five degree nozzle's
not working, I'd knock it down to a fifteen degree
nozzle and see how it does.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
Okay, Well, I comment on yesterday you were talking about
putting water down floor drains. Okay, and well, I was
starting to smell something in the basement and there's a
drain that's behind my HVAC unit which has the hollows
goes into it. From the air conditioner, but with the
(17:16):
air conditioner not running, it tends to drat. I never
thought about putting water down that drain.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
So yeah, you know, and that's that's important, you know,
because that's what's kind of keeping the sewer gas out
of your home, right, you know, I do want to
add one more thing on that blue thing. You could
also get some graffiti remover and that on there, follow
the directions and scrub. That might be a good remedy
for that. Also, do you get that a paint store
(17:45):
or yeah, yeah, you get a paint store, hardware.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Store graffiti remover. Okay, I hadn't thought of that, so
I assume that this paint's got to be oil days
or something that, yeah, to this to this point, so
I appreciate it's a graffiti.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
All right, very good, Thank you much for the call.
Appreciate it. Yeah, those paints, I get that call periodically
where people Obviously, if it's sitting there for a year
and a half, i'd be kind of honked off too.
But those are those spray paints. They do them across sidewalks,
they'll do them across driveways, they'll do them across your lawn. Obviously,
(18:23):
the lawns are not really an issue. The grass may
be painted red, but as the grass grows, you're gonna
mow that off. Plus the paint's going to break down
on the sidewalks. It really is designed to break down.
It's if the proper paint is used for those markings,
(18:45):
it should not be a problem. I can't tell you.
I can't remember, and they don't know if I asked
how long those markings last. But I don't think it's
over a year, and I haven't had one right across
my driveway peat or over a I'd walk on the
side of the house, so it didn't really bother me.
But again, a pressure washer. Yeah, but graffiti remover is
(19:08):
a good product for removing that. I am sure, because
that's what a lot of graffiti's done is with spray paint. Also,
chalking down on a brick house, graffiti remover, that's a
good way to clean that brick up. Also, all right,
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Home with Gary Sullivan. All right, back here we go,
we got bill Bill welcome. Thank you, yes, sir.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
Thanks for taking my call. I have a older home
that we purchased several years ago, and last fall we
had it had the bedrooms painted, and I noticed after
probably several months later, they started to crack in the
paint on the ceiling. Now and the crack kept growing,
(23:40):
and eventually a piece fell off, now a piece of paint,
and it was probably an eighth of an inch thick.
I noticed there was powdery on the interior part, and
I think it was originally lastered. So is there anything
(24:03):
I can do to besides scraping the whole ceiling off?
To fix it.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
I don't know. I got some questions. So this is
this is the the ceiling on a home that was
I don't know, eighty to one hundred.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
Years old, about in nineteen sixty, so it's fairly.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Nineteen sixty, Okay, all right, I was kind of an
older home because it is plaster.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
Right, it is plastered. Yeah, and it was the the
interior part of the paint that fell off felt powdery. Yeah,
and I think I think it was you. I think
it was plaster.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
I'm not sure, but yeah, Yeah, is this on you say,
the ceiling? Is it on the Is it near the
wall and the ceiling on an outside wall?
Speaker 5 (24:55):
No, it's more interior, away from the away from the wall.
Maybe some of it's even in the center of the room.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Okay, okay.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
And that ceiling, I look, there's no you know, no
moisture can come through.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
That.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
The ceiling isn't coded with you know, it doesn't look
wet like I had been wet or anything.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Well, to answer your question, how much of that ceiling
is peeling or the paint that's feeling how much?
Speaker 5 (25:33):
Well, in one spot, it's in one bedroom, it's probably
two six inch spots maybe six inches across, kind of
a circle, not quite a circle, but there's two or three.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Of them, okay. And how many rooms are affected?
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Two? Two bedrooms?
Speaker 5 (25:56):
Why is it only has you know, a couple of
spots and then one the other has two places where
that's maybe four feet across.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Are those bedrooms side by side?
Speaker 5 (26:13):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Okay, okay. So in difference to what you say, I
believe there was a water problem, maybe not anymore. And
what it is, it's one or two things. When moisture
gets into concrete or plaster, there is lime involved, and
(26:37):
there are salts involved. And you hear us talk a
lot about efflorescence. So when you think about it, really,
that plaster is sixty five years old, and over the years,
even if it had a little bit of water, it's aging.
It's not disintegrating, it's aging. It's becoming compromised, and that
(27:00):
efflorescence is pushing that pain off. In nineteen sixty, most
of the paints that we used, most of the paints,
not all the paints. Latex paints were invented and they
were starting to be used, but oil based paints were
the primary source of paints. In Oil based paints were
(27:21):
not breathable. Today's paints are wouldn't allow the water vapor
to penetrate, and it would just kind of sit there.
It would be trapped. Either the paint would peel or
the water would be there for an extended period of time,
allowing again that plaster to absorb it and to start
(27:44):
a process of creating efflorescence. Efflorescences when water is added
to lime or salted blooms, it's like salt crystals, and
over time even humidity. Now, even that paint's breathable, but
if that first is oil, it's still not breathable, right,
And it's probably also getting brittle the pain itself because
(28:08):
that first layer, I think you said during the conversation
that it was the paint was peeling all the way
down to the plaster was about an eighth inch thick.
And that kind of all makes sense. So do you
have to scrape the whole wall down? You know, I
don't know. Ideally, I guess you would take all the
(28:29):
paint off, but I know you don't want to do that,
So what you can do? I grew up in a
house that was built in the late forties, and my
job was about every four years with dad was to
scrape off the paint off the front wall of a
brick house that faced the southwest, and that moisture would
(28:52):
get into that plaster. And we had the same problems.
And every five years we scraped the paint off and
we patched a crack, and we cleaned it, and we
primed it, and we painted it. If you were going
to eliminate this whole issue, I would say you would
strip that whole get all that paint off, either mechanically
(29:13):
or chemically, and then you would clean it with a
good efflorescence, a mild acid and clean all that efflorescence
off and use a coat of acrylic primer and use
two coats of self priming acrylic paints. And you might
(29:33):
go fifteen years before that process continues, okay. So or
or we can go ahead and scrape off all the
loose paint that we can scrape off, and we could
use some dry wall topping compound kind of smooth it
(29:53):
out where there's a difference in heights, and we could
put an acrylic you wouldn't You could put in a
crillic primer over the ceiling, and you know, two coats
of a self priming paint and it will be as
good as the paint that's beneath it, because once it
dilaminates from the plaster, it's going to bring the paint
(30:17):
with it, right, So, yes, you know, and so in
a way, what I'm telling you is that process is
never going to stop. Whether you scrape it all the
way off, prime it and paint it, or whether you
spot treat it and paint it. You know, it's gonna
be good for a while. But that plaster is old
(30:38):
and there is efflorescence, and it will keep showing its
ugly head over time. It will be slower, but you know,
the chances of it always occurring is is pretty strong.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
Okay, I guess I need to make a decision on that.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Well, there's options. Okay, there's options. I'll give you those two.
Just say, you know, I mean, there is wall liners
that can be installed over old plaster. It's like a
heavy I must say fabric, but heavy being probably as
thick as the coat of paint that's peeling off that
(31:19):
you can literally attach it. It looks like drywall, it
looks like stipple paint. It can look like a herring bone,
It can look whatever you want and that can be
installed over the ceiling and you're basically bearing the problem.
You can put quarter inch drywall over that existing plaster
and bearing it. There are decorative ceiling tiles that are
(31:43):
as thin as a piece of paper, and you could
make that ceiling ornate. You could make it look like
a copper ceiling, a pewter ceiling, a wood ceiling which
can be just installed with dollops of glue and they
butt up. There's no track. It's go on to website.
I think it's Decorative Ceiling Tiles dot com. There's thousands
(32:08):
of different patterns, so you can hide it. You know,
you don't have to. So a lot of it is
depending on how much you want to work, what the
finished results are going to look like, and there's options.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
Okay, all righty, well, thank you.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
You're quite welcome. Thanks for the call. I appreciate it.
All right, let's take a break. We've got Linda and
Cheryl as we continue. You're at home with Gary Sullivan.
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weekend for all. Right back to the funds we go.
We got Linda, Linda, welcome, Hi Garry.
Speaker 6 (35:51):
I have been working on getting some wall paper out
of my bathroom. But now what's my next step? I say,
I got glue.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
On the wall.
Speaker 6 (35:58):
Now we're con painted, really want to paint it, but.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
You got to do both. You got to get the
glue off and you can go ahead and paint it.
If you don't get the glue off, when you paint it,
that glue will liquefy and it'll bleed through the final
code of paint and that's not going to make you happy.
Speaker 6 (36:17):
But you know, the walls are kind of crummy, so
just put some sand paper, run some sand.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Paper on there, and probably better quite honestly, to wipe
it down to liquefy it and remove it rather than
sand it, because even any residue really can bleed through.
And a lot of people make the mistake of tearing
off the wallpaper and you're so happy it's gone. It's off,
and they don't rinse that wall down and then bleeds
(36:43):
through the paint job, and then you've sealed that in,
which is a big problem. So you can get a
product called diff DF. Mix it with hot water and
spray it all over the wall. Let it sit about.
It's it's diff wallpaper remover.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
Wallpaper remover.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Okay, okay, And you spray it all over the wall,
let it sit, follow the directions, and then you rinse
it off and and and you've removed that glue. I've
also had people tell me, uh, dish washing, uh not
dish washing, fabric softener, fabric softener, put that on there,
(37:29):
that'll dissolve the glue. But it's an enzyme glue remover,
but very important. I think even vinegar and water with
some liquid soap may do it. I've always used the
dif it's inexpensive, mix it with water, spray it on,
rinse it real good after it sits and does its
does its thing, and yeah, you'll you'll be able to
(37:50):
see where you've removed it pretty easily.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Okay, great, thank you, all right.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Good luck, take care bye bye. Yeah, old wallpaper even
and nine. No, there's a lot of updating from the
big rage of the eighties. What was that wallpaper borders
eighties nineties or early two thousands maybe then it's kind
of out of style. Start taking those off. They come
off pretty easy, but they don't remove the adhesive. Then
(38:19):
they paint the wall. It bleeds through. Cheryl Welcome, Well,
Hi Gary Hike.
Speaker 7 (38:27):
My question is about extending a water spicket so that
it can be turned off, like outside the frame of
our deck rather than right at the house. And so
we have a we bought a house in Michigan and
it has a really large deck that's about two feet
off the ground and currently the water'spicket. We have an
access panel in the deck to be able to access
(38:49):
the water. So it would be really handy to be
able to turn the water on and off without going
up on the deck and accessing you know, lifting that
access panel.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
M hm, Well you can what what type of pipe
you got? Copper pipe, so you can certainly do that.
The question is the big question is I would like
to have that connection to that spicket done inside the house.
(39:23):
And I think that's where it kind of comes into play,
because what are you going to do? I mean, do
you go up there in the winter time? You go
up there I mean, is this in your house or
is this a cabin or something. It's in your house. Okay,
So what you want to do, I mean, do you
(39:46):
turn off the water now going to the spickett outside
in the fall and winter?
Speaker 7 (39:52):
We do?
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Yeah, okay there?
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Well inside, Okay, So if you can really once you
start putting copper pipe with water on the outside, it's
it's it's vulnerable to freeze. Right yeah. So I don't
know when you shut your water down, but like today
(40:17):
where I'm at, it's going to be sixty two degrees,
but tomorrow morning it's going to be thirty five. And
if it's gonna and last week there was a day
when down to twenty five. I mean, so if that
water's in the house right now and then you've got
a frostproof faucet on the outside, it's not going to freeze.
(40:39):
But if we run a pipe out there and then
connect the pipe, that water and that pipe's going to freeze.
So if you can I don't know where that goes
through the foundation, if you can take that and you know,
shut off the water, cut the pipe, put an elbow in,
put a a vertical copper pipe, and then take a
(41:05):
horizontal pipe out through the wall and put that frostproof
faucet through that hole and still make your connection inside
with Yeah, and you can even probably still use the
same valve. You're okay, But I don't want you to
take off that faucet that's outside now and run the
(41:26):
copper pipe up the side of the house and then
put the faucet there, because there'll be some night you're
going to get tricked and then water and that pipe
will freeze.
Speaker 7 (41:38):
That's what we're afraid of. And right now, you know,
we don't turn on the water to that like until
it's consistently warm, So we don't have it on right now,
and we figure it's probably going to be a couple
more weeks at least before we can do that.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Is there any when you look inside your house, are
you as high up off the foundation of the house
that you can go on the inside?
Speaker 7 (42:04):
We are, it's at our basement ceiling.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
Yeah. Yeah, So that's the issue. So you know, you
can go outside, you can run copper pipe, but you
can't you can't turn that You know, you can't turn
that water on until you're safely out of the free zone,
and you better have it shut off when you're back
(42:29):
in that free zone. Because it's exposed. You can put
insulation on it, but you know, you can put heating
tape on it. But it's it's a little bit of
a gamble, that's all. You've got to be aware of
what you're doing there.
Speaker 7 (42:45):
Just Well, would it be possible to like have our
frost free spickett where we have it now and do
some kind of extension so that we had a suckond
thicket out at the face of our deck or with that.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Uh and with the pop pipe on the outside of
the house. Yeah, I guess on the inside you could, uh,
you could put in you could put a t or
an elbow off the existing pipe. It'd be a tea
where you know, you cut the pipe on the inside.
(43:22):
You'd put that piece of copper in that would connect
to the frost proof and then off the other side
of the tee. You could have a pipe with a
valve and an elbow and going through the wall and
then going up. Yeah, I mean you could can you
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could you could finagle something like that?
Speaker 7 (43:46):
Yes, gotcha? Okay, Well, I think the way you talked
about it makes sense an initial way.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
All right, Well, good luck and Uh yeah, if you
go on that direction, just don't forget because it's exposed.
All right, Danny boy, another weekend. Thank you very much
for all your efforts. It was kind of fun, it
was kind of busy, and that's all good stuff. Don't forget.
You can pick up the podcast that Danny's got loaded
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on the iHeart app each and every hour, plus our
project of the week, which was Rotor Ruder talking about
outdoor foscets. Don't get caught, don't get got short in
the springtime over the fall time. All right, good Lord willing.
We'll both be back next weekend for more At Home
with Garry Sullivan.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
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