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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (01:41):
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Speaker 1 (01:44):
All right, let's go to Kathy Kathy Welcome. Hey, Kathy,
Kathy's gone. I guess we'll go to Teresa. Teresa welcome,
Good morning, Gary morning.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
Yeah, hey, I have a question about treated number. I'm
gonna be building and replacing some bluebird boxes around my
place and somebody told me that you.

Speaker 4 (02:16):
Shouldn't use treated number because that's toxic to baby birds.
Now is there anything to that? What is that stuff
treated with?

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Well, I know you don't want to burn treated would,
but you know it's I don't know if I would
call it toxic. I you know what, I can't even
tell you what it's treated with anymore, Teresa, because they've
changed it. I can't tell you how many times in
the last fifteen years. It used to be treated with
an arsenic product. And we know arsenic was toxic, but

(02:49):
quite honestly, the measurements of arsenic that was in there,
the EPA determined that it was not toxic, but it
had such a bad inflame fluence on people. They changed
the treating process anyway. Those twenty years ago. They went
from CCA treated to a AQM to ACQ. I mean,

(03:10):
there's all kinds of different ways. It's not treated anything.
I should say. The treatment of treated wood is not
as strong as it used to be. But if you
were to use that, I would get the treated wood
that's you know four ground contact.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
Yeah, if you were to paint over that wood, would
that seal it in? Or if you thought the wood
and let it sit for a year, would that would
it go away?

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Well, it's not going to go away. It will allow
the residue will be there. It's delivered with water, so
it's in the water is infused into the woods. So
you should not paint it for a year regardless, otherwise
it's just going to peel off.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
Well, maybe I'll look into something else to build them
with I don't know.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah, what is it you were building again? Is it?
You say? Flower boxes?

Speaker 4 (04:10):
No bluebird boxes?

Speaker 2 (04:11):
All blue bird boxes.

Speaker 4 (04:14):
They said that it's hard on the baby bird.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Yeah, that it could be.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
I mean, I would rather see you build them with
like a cedar, something along nose.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Line cedar or redwood.

Speaker 4 (04:28):
Boy, is a lot more expensive, no.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
Doubt about that, No doubt about that. But yeah, I'm
not sure in terms of a bluebird. I'm sure from
a human standpoint, but yeah, I'd probably have to do
a little research. But I've usually seen bluebird boxes made
of redwood and cedar, and I imagine that's the reason.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
Yeah, well, listen, thank you for your time.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
All right, thank you much for the call. Appreciate it.
If you'd like to join us too, so we got
a spot for you.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
It's eight hundred eight two through A two five five
lines open and Kathy's back.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Kathy welcome.

Speaker 5 (05:07):
Hi, Thank you for taking my call. Sorry about that,
No worries. I have a kit in it up in
the attics and it's built over the water and.

Speaker 4 (05:17):
It's two stories. It used to be just.

Speaker 5 (05:20):
One story with a flat roof, but then they built
like a gable roof. I guess what you would call
over the top of it all right? When they did that,
there's no ventilation, so I know it's the ventilation, but
what they upstairs have to be the metal roof and

(05:41):
then they put the insulation, and then on top of that,
which is on the inside is zac and I need
to take all that down because we have so much
moisture in the camp because it is also built over
the water. Do you have any suggestions on what we

(06:02):
use for the ceiling on the second.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Floor your your phone breaks up just a little bit,
so I missed some parts.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
I know there's no ventilation.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Up there, but where is the where is the insulation
being put?

Speaker 5 (06:24):
It's between So the taievak is what they used for
ceiling material, and then elation and then it's the metal
roof on the outside.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Okay, So the tievac is up on the underside of
the roof.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
Inside inside the camp right in the attic.

Speaker 5 (06:49):
It's like, yeah, no, this is actually the second.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
Story, the second story okay. And you're question is what
to me again, how would they do that?

Speaker 5 (07:04):
Or so do we have any any idea of what
we could use for ceiling that would camp is built
over the waters, the camp shifts a little bit, So
I'm not sure what to put on there because of
all the moisture too. What we could put on for ceiling.

Speaker 6 (07:25):
There, Yeah, on the ceiling itself, yes, for paint, well,
I don't know what to use, Like would you put
like wood up there?

Speaker 5 (07:40):
Like right now, all they have is tied and that's
holding all the moisture in.

Speaker 7 (07:44):
I believe.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Well, tie bak is like gortex. It let's it, let's
moisture out. It breathes, but doesn't let moisture in. Oh okay,
So that's usually used on it. It's used on that
exterior walls usually, so you know it's going to allow
the humidity to go out, but if it rains, it's

(08:06):
not going to allow humidity or moisture to come in.

Speaker 5 (08:11):
Right, So this tivak is inside, it's used it for
the ceiling inside the second story.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
So it's not wide open.

Speaker 5 (08:25):
To all be taken down.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah, I would say that tivak, you're gonna have to
treat that first floor in the second floor as one
open area, would be my thought, and what you would
what I would see happening. And it's very difficult for
me to say Kathy, because I can't see the house
and how it's structured. But if you've got foam in

(08:50):
those walls, okay, you can get closed cell foam and
open cell foam, so a closed cell foam will not
let moisture in and it won't let mess your moisture
out it is, and then it's like whole whole house encapsulation.
And that would be to me, that would be exactly

(09:12):
what you're looking for, because then you have created an
envelope inside that home and you can work on you know,
window ventilation, you can work on air conditioning ventilation, you
can ventilate.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
In other words, you're you're.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
Keeping moisture from the outside and you're keeping what's on
the inside, and you can process accordingly, you know, with
cross ventilation or with air conditioning. So you wouldn't want
anything interrupted in between the floors.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
That would be my guess, correct, correct.

Speaker 5 (09:47):
And see in the downstairs there isn't any time act
but it's just upstairs in the second floor.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yeah, it's all open.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
But right, so by not hand having that tievek on
the outside your or closed cell phoae, you're getting you're
getting air that's working its way through the walls, and
without the tievek to stop, you're getting humidity, and you know,
when it rains, you get excessive humidity, and then it's trapped.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
It's it's it's not going anywhere.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
We're not, you know, because the upstairs is kind of
sealed up. So I think based on what you're telling me,
I think you're kind of, you know, really at a
position where you got to look at the overall whole area.
And that's why I said the whole house encapsulation with

(10:46):
closed cell foam and working accordingly, I think is important.

Speaker 5 (10:50):
Thank you so much. That's what I didn't know where
to start.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
So yeah, I think that's where it would because yeah,
you're and even if you vent a the upstairs, I mean,
you gotta it's kind of like one of these deals.
You got to go one way or the other. You
can't be halfway. And you're not alone, Kathy. I just
read you know somebody, seventy percent of our homes are
improperly ventilated and it's such a key component now from

(11:17):
energy efficiency and also having a healthy home.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
So you're not alone.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
But I would certainly get to talk to a foaming
expert or even a contractor and evaluate the whole thing
exactly what you need in insulation and ventilation.

Speaker 5 (11:34):
Okay, thank you, thank you so much, Gary, I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
You're quite welcome. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
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Speaker 2 (12:39):
Eric. Welcome Gary for taking my call. You're quite welcome.

Speaker 7 (12:46):
Question is Gury and I can give a little background
history of recent is pipes moaning like when you flush
a toilet or things like that. The pipes will actually
have a moaning sound for what you know. You can
google out there things. And we had between twelve and
twenty inches of rain here in Kentucky in April, about

(13:10):
a four day span, and I've got water in my
basement and I've taken sure of that piece, but we
ran multiple shop backs getting all this out, getting it out,
getting it out, and dumping it in a shower. And
I don't know if that this has never happened. I've
all built a whole twenty seven years ago that that
really just cleaned those pipes out or what happened, But

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that seems to be a common effect now And I
just want to get your opinion.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
I don't think it's related, to be honest with you.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
You so tell me. Is there specific times where you
hear that groaning or moaning?

Speaker 1 (13:50):
Is it like when you first turn the water on,
or when you flush a toilet, or is there any
robing sound like drumming sound or anything like that.

Speaker 7 (14:02):
It is normally like when you flush a toilet and
things of that nature. I'm kind of trying to remember
back I'm in the shower. Don't know if it affects that,
but there is not There's no sound whatsoever. It's just
after it flushes, and I don't know if it's when
the flapper stops and it starts filling back up. But
then after that you will get this constant moaning sound

(14:25):
for you know, three five, seven seconds.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Okay, I'm gonna give you something really easy to do.
And I kind of had a similar problem with no
flooding going on. It was an upstairs bathroom, and it
was the same way flushing it and filling it. There
wasn't any drumming. Drumming is usually a loose washer, whether

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it's in the twilt or whether it's in the fusst
and the sink. A banging sound is usually water pressure.
Maybe the pipes aren't ad here properly to the joice
in the basement or something, or the water pressure is
just higher than it should be, which we can always check.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
But a moaning.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
Sound is usually is it in any other bathroom but
just that one?

Speaker 2 (15:15):
Or is it everywhere?

Speaker 7 (15:17):
It's basically everywhere.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
What I would do, and let's just do this for
an exercise, uh, is I would open your faucet and
shut off the water.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Okay, And you can lead that like that, you know,
so you'll have the faucets open.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
It'll drain all the water out of it. And then
turn your water back on. It'll spurt, spatter and everything else.
And when everything's kind of flowing, you don't have to
turn all your faucets off and do three or four
of them on different heights of inside the house.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
And we want those pipes and.

Speaker 7 (16:02):
The toilets as well.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Yeah, yeah, just kind of just flush everything out, shut
everything down, turn the water on, and toilets will fill
up and the pipes will you know, the faucets will discharge.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
All the water. When it's all running smoothly.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Again, go ahead and close your other faucets and see
if that doesn't take care of it.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
Sometimes there are air that gets in there and it
causes that moaning sound, and if it's everywhere, that would
be where I would start.

Speaker 7 (16:36):
Okay, thank you so much. Another brief question for you.
I saw one of your advertisements about wet and forget,
and I've got some of that, but I've got questions.
On a covered deck, concrete floor and you put can
you put wet and forget down there, knowing that it's
not going to get rain on it? Should you wash
it all.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Okay, So if you're going to use it still gets sunlight, no, yeah,
I would use an oxygenated.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
Bleach then rather than to wet and forget.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
If it got sunlight and didn't get rain and you
hosted off periodically, I'm pretty sure it.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Would stay active and it probably work.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
But if you get a like concrete cleaner or a
deck cleaner, it'll it contained trisodium bicarbonate and it's a powder.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Mixed with water and rinse that deck with that.

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Speaker 1 (19:11):
You're at home with Gary Solvon, then uh well, if
you're working on your home or thinking about a project,
or maybe there's just something.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
That isn't right.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
Now. I talk a lot about taking that walk around
the house and if it isn't right, if it doesn't
look right.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
You don't have to be an expert.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
But if it looks like there's something going on, such
as paint that gets cracks going vertically up a door jam,
you got a water issue behind that door jam. That's
why the paint's cracking. My point being is if you
got things that don't look right, explore, find out what
the source is, find out what's going on, and.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Get it repaired. Because I've said this for many years,
and it's so very true that.

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Little five dollars repair it'll quickly become fifty dollars. It
can become five hundred dollars in march right up the ladder.
In other words, don't ignore it. All right, If you'd
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Alex welcome.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
Yes.

Speaker 11 (20:16):
My concern is all these new appliances more energy efficiency.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
Uh huh?

Speaker 11 (20:23):
What I have a somebody that had the efficiency furnace
put in the fan motor circuit board cost just sixteen
hundred dollars.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
Yes, they do lust the cost.

Speaker 7 (20:36):
To put it in.

Speaker 11 (20:37):
I mean, how much are we gaining I have.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
Well, that's a good question, Alex. I think that's a
really really fair question.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
But you're right.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
I bought a refrigerator, a new one. We had the
on one twenty six years. I bought it last March,
so I've had it for fifteen.

Speaker 11 (20:59):
Months, thirty five years old. This running perfectly.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Yeah, I've had it for fifteen months. I've had two
service calls. I've never bought an extended war team in
my life until I bought this refrigerator. I figured if
I had two service calls in a year it was
actually a year because they were both warranted, that I
was gonna make sure and they're not cheap.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
Service calls aren't cheap. We know that. That's a great
question or not. That's a good question.

Speaker 7 (21:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (21:29):
I have a friend who bought a new refrigerator two
three years ago.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Uh huh.

Speaker 11 (21:35):
And luckily you just made it under the warranty. They
had a Pollop computer board in there.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Yep.

Speaker 7 (21:42):
Well they're they're.

Speaker 11 (21:43):
Made in Taiwan. What happens to China? Says they like
to take over Taiwan. You can't get computer boards. What
do you use it for storage?

Speaker 2 (21:52):
Cat?

Speaker 1 (21:52):
Yeah, well, that's all the decisions us big boys have
to make, right. I'm just telling you the new ones
are significant, lean, more energy efficient. But you're exactly right.
I mean, I hear you loud and clear. I've experienced
the same thing.

Speaker 7 (22:09):
You know.

Speaker 11 (22:09):
Another thing. A friend of mine has a furnace that's
probably eighty or ninety years old. It's a gravity furnace.
The heated changer is bulletproof. Yeah, it's still working fine.
If the power goes out from an EMP attack of Carrington, e'sent,
no problem, it's got it's got a piot.

Speaker 7 (22:33):
What they call it, is sure.

Speaker 11 (22:36):
And another stop you get a power outage. Everybody's power
is going to go off in the middle of a
cold wonder what are they going to do?

Speaker 1 (22:45):
Well, then you get to buy a whole house generator.
I guess, I don't know. It's the ying and the
yang of everything in life. Those are the decisions we make.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
But I hear you loud and clear. I'm not just
brushing you off or anything along those lines. You you
are correct.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
Now we've had we talked about the boards and you
know the circuit board and stuff, and then they're not
all like that, but they're certainly, it seems to me,
at least as a casual observer, a proliferation of problems
versus the older appliances. But I thank you for your input,

(23:21):
and those are the decisions we've got to make. I'm
bringing you the data that says these new ones are
significantly two to three times more efficient.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
But you're exactly right.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
If you're going to replace it in ten twelve years,
maybe it's not worth it.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
I'll leave that decision to you. Let's go to Dave.

Speaker 12 (23:39):
Dave, welcome, Good morning, sir.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
I'm doing fine, thank you.

Speaker 13 (23:46):
Five years ago I toured a twenty three by sixty
foot concrete driveway six six I ever did.

Speaker 12 (23:53):
It, but I'm proud of that driveway. I sealed it
with HGG stealer that I got from Sheryn Leam.

Speaker 13 (24:00):
Huh later saying again from Shervan Williams. Yeah, I'm about
three hours each of you across from Hunting Wake, Virginia.

Speaker 12 (24:09):
We got a lot of snow at this past winner.
It's really the first time the street to been cloud
and it's restalled over on them horrible following.

Speaker 13 (24:21):
It just broke my heart. Yeah, you quickly product, and
is it something that's premixed or you mix it yourself?
And you'd said something about you put it on with
a suigion. What is that product?

Speaker 1 (24:37):
It's called resurfacer. I believe they changed the name of
about three years ago. But you're there's two types of
resurfacers they make, and for resurfacing, I would definitely use
the one that you mix, if you're going to use
the quick cret brand.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
Even in when you.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
Read about with the product, they make a pre mixed one,
but they're only talking like the duration of that of
one to three years. The one you mix is a
powder and you mix it at a forty pounds bag
and a five gallon bucket, and you got to have
an industrial mixer and.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
You blend it.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
By following the directions spot on very important. It has
a bonding agent in there, I do believe. And you
mix it and it's almost like an asphalt sealer, and
that asphalt sealer, Dave, you know that consistency. You use

(25:43):
it the same way. It's power cleaned, it's super clean.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
You pour this quick Create resurfacer onto the surface. You
move it.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
You apply it with an asphalt applicator quite honestly, so
it's got to squeeze you on one end, a brush
on the other. You distribute with a squeegee and then
you glide the brush through it to give it some texture.
And that's the resurfacer there. You're not trialing that.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
If you want to.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
Trial it, you can use that same resurferre and there's
another recipe for the mix for a patch, or you
can get the vinyl concrete patcher and patch those divots
and then apply the resurfacer over that.

Speaker 14 (26:34):
Okay, there's too much to trial so I'm going to
have to squeege you at all. But I think it
needs to be resealed right, And I had had the
agency stealer, it just didn't seem to do the job.
I'm trying to think outside the box. Is there something
I can coach my whole driveway with that is absolutely

(26:55):
resistant to salt and we're not.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
That's a great question, there is, but you're back into
a trillable product. So I don't know if you heard
this other conversation I had with a fella earlier today
almost about the same thing.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
There is a.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Non sementatious resurfacer slash patch and it's called rock patch
and it's made by Dice Coatings. At least go there
and look at the video of it being applied and

(27:35):
they'll teach.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
You a little bit about it.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
But it is an acrylic resin product that is spreadable
or trillible.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
It's pre mix.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
It comes in a gallon container or a three gallon container,
and literally you can do a whole drive, you can
do a whole floor, you can do a whole garage floor, or.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
You can just use it as a patch.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
And it's non cementation, so it's not absorbing water. It
bonds better to the concrete, and it's a finish.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
And it's uh I believe, but double check me.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
I believe it's resistant to rock salt also in that
salty brine solution.

Speaker 14 (28:21):
I've been trying to think outside the box and I
stopped at the store and I was reading about flat seal.

Speaker 4 (28:29):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 14 (28:30):
That's reprized.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
It is. I don't know how. I think I've never
heard of being used for that.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
Uh So, I don't know. I don't know what its
ability to bite to that concrete is.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
I just don't know.

Speaker 14 (28:47):
It lists concrete as one of the.

Speaker 12 (28:51):
Surface as you can go right, Well, it's expensive.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
Five gallons? How much?

Speaker 1 (29:00):
One?

Speaker 6 (29:01):
Nine?

Speaker 1 (29:02):
Yeah, the stuff I was talking about is probably it's
not quite that, but it's it's probably even a little
bit more expensive. The only thing I would know is UH.
I don't know if you've been to the website to
see if they have any.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
You know, data, or call their A lot of times.
There's an eight hundred number for technical services. I call
a lot.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
Of companies via technical services justifying and talk to the chemist.
I don't need to talk to the marketing department. I
want to talk to the chemist and UH and.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
See what kind of conversation.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
I find out a lot about products doing that, and
I would probably recommend if you're thinking about doing you're intrigued.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
I don't know the answer to that, but I think
I would call them.

Speaker 12 (29:56):
This suggested in my mind the last day or two
and I saw that loves and I didn't buy even
a little bit just for a trial because I thought
would research it and I will call the company and
see what they have to say about it.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Yeah, Because when you do codings, Dave, you run into
a lot of things. You run into how well it's
gonna hear? Can I if you part a car on
there with hot tires, is hot tire pickup going to occur?
Where you're going to pull that right back off? Those
are all possibilities. Is the sun UV? Is that UV resistant?

(30:33):
Does it break down? I mean there's a lot to
I mean you might even get a hold of chemist
and they say concrete.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
So they've had to do some studies on it.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
But it'd be real interesting to see what their analysis
is or how they feel about that.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
I got a gut feeling that it might not have
the wearability and it probably does not resist hot tires.
So you know, talk to him, give it some thought.
That's the best I can do for you. All right, Well,
take a break. We got Jackie Mike by the way.

(31:08):
We'll be going another hour, so if you'd like to
grab a line, do so. It's eight hundred eight two
three eight two five five.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
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Speaker 2 (31:51):
Well, I hope you're having a good weekend at least.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
Uh planning ahead? What's your big summertime project? You know,
a couple of weeks I asked, so, where are you
on a lawn more? Is it the gas mower? Is
it the battery but more? Or how's that working out?
It's pretty interesting. As I've said many times on this show,
it seems like for every product there's a ying and
a yang. And I continue to ask that question, you know, like.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
How do you like it?

Speaker 1 (32:19):
You know, they're definitely a little lighter, they're definitely easier
as the power propel, as good as a gas propel.
You know, just getting your input and it was pretty
pro electronic.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
And I bring that up with Father's Day coming up.
Maybe some of the battery.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
I've got a battery blower that I've had probably for
ten years, and you know, now they're even better than
they were ten years ago and it works great. I
do not have a battery mower, but man, I had
a battery string trimmer and I had that for a while,

(32:59):
but I think failed on it.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
Eventually.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
Overall, it was fine. It gave me enough service, that's
for sure. But take a look. There's certainly a lot
of very cool stuff out there that's battery powered.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
All right, let's go to Jackie. Jackie. Welcome, Hi, Hi,
oh yep. How can we help you, Jackie?

Speaker 15 (33:24):
I got a question. So I have a front door
that had evidently exterior paint on it. I didn't know it.
It was white. I wanted to paint it a lot,
so I painted interior paint over it and has a
storm door on it. So I figured it would be
fine to have the interior paint. But anyway, I start appealing,

(33:47):
and then I went to Low's and they told me
to get the stripper because they said it would never
adhere be in that it was interior over exterior oil
based probably, So I stripped it.

Speaker 14 (34:00):
With Citra something, citr strip, bitter.

Speaker 15 (34:05):
Strip, right, And I did that yesterday, and like I said,
and then I used a scriper and I got a
lot of it off. But this morning it's real gooey. Still,
I don't know what to do. At this point. I
can't really say in it because it's not hardened.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
Well, you got a couple of problems in there, I mean,
you really do.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
CITR Strip's an okay product I prefer, and they actually
sponsor the show.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
But Dumont makes one called Smart Strip.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
Not all of the environmentally friendly paint stripper strip all
kinds of paint. However, if I don't know, did you have,
but I think the Smart Strip probably strips like eighty percent.
They also sell the test kits, okay, to see what.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
Stripper works best.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
I think because you got a kind of a mess now,
I think I would either get the test hid or
get the Smart strip and figure that one's going to
do it since it does eighty percent of the paints
and codings.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
Okay, they probably carry that.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
If not, you can get it online. The website is
DuMond Global or just google Smart Strip.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
It'll take you right there.

Speaker 15 (35:29):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
And they got other ones like smart Strip Pro and
all this, but the straight Smart Strip's probably going to
take care of.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
You got to get that stuff off.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
There's no way it's going to paint out with what
you got on there.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Now.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
Number The first thing is there's nothing wrong with that
exterior paint on there. The only major difference with exterior
paint and interior paint. And I'm going to be very
general for all your chemists out there. It prevents molds
and mildews, it is more tolerant of sunshine, and it's

(36:06):
usually got a little bit more of a texture than
an interior paint. So if so that's what an exterior
paint is, and it's exterior, I think where your problem
is real. I've seen this over and over again. If
you painted it black and you've got a storm door

(36:28):
in there with glass on it, you may have just
baked that paint off because that glass kind of has
a lot of solar energy going through it and it's
hitting a black coating and it's holding that solar energy

(36:48):
in it. And I'm kind of surprised if there is
a storm you know, panel still in there, that that
just wouldn't start peeling off.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
And maybe that's what it did.

Speaker 15 (37:03):
Well, it was a cloudy day and my door sets
back on the porch quite a bit. I don't know
if it had a chance to actually just well, baby,
and it's only on there for overnight.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
Yeah, okay, well maybe that's not it. Then so is
it was it peeling off?

Speaker 15 (37:26):
It was just not it didn't seem to really adhere.

Speaker 9 (37:30):
And then well, let's go.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
Back in what did we put on their first What
was on their first.

Speaker 15 (37:36):
Okay, it was glitten premium, Yeah, painting primer.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
It was a painting primer, and it was interior.

Speaker 15 (37:49):
Correct an interior yes.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
And how long did that last?

Speaker 15 (37:54):
So today's Saturday. I painted it Thursday evening. And when
I woke up from I was going to put a
second coat, and I was going to sand off where
the handle was so that I could put a new
put new hardware on there. And then I was like
wiping down where I sanded, and the paint just started

(38:15):
all washing off like with with the cloth.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
So it never appeared to the is this a metal
door or a wood door? It's metal, okay, So it
never bit onto the.

Speaker 15 (38:28):
Metal door, right exactly.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
So what I would do is I would we're going
to run out of time, I would use a paint stripper,
like smart strip.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
I would strip it all off. Okay.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
Then I would get an oil based primer, and I
would use a product which is an interior trimming enamel,
and it's called eu Athane trimm enamel. And I'm telling
you that will light on there, that'll be as good
as an old fashioned oil based paint, and that's what

(39:04):
I would do.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
But it's a lot more work, I hear you, but
that's what i'd use. All right, Jackie, thank you much
for the call. Mike, Joey and Donald.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
We will continue with your calls. You're at home with
Gary Sullivan.

Speaker 8 (39:26):
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around the house, Gary will find something for you. At
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Speaker 2 (39:37):
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Speaker 9 (39:38):
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