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All Right, back at it. We go about twelve thirty three,
I believe, and uh, working our way through the weekend.
As I said before we went to break, I know
everything's expensive, but I'm telling you energy costs going up
every year. It seems like we have a story and
we bring in Nate Burgesses with USA installation, we have
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to talk about insallation because the price energy is going up. Nate,
welcome again that home with Gary Salvin and Dog gone
at a price of energy and going up again? What's
going on?
Speaker 5 (01:41):
Oh, they're going Gary. Yeah, it's like every year, it's
like it increases. It's just something that can always count on.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Well, you know, it's interesting. I had harped on this.
I guess, Uh last weekend I think is when the
news came out about Duke Energy saying twenty is that
what your guys are talking about?
Speaker 5 (02:03):
Yeah, that's actually the latest we heard. It's thirty percent.
Really Yeah, so it's quite quite an increase.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Yeah. I just had a guest on during our national
show and he was with the TVA in Tennessee Valley
Authority and he was talking about same thing everybody's talking
about right now. I mean, twenty thirty percent is a
big kick in the tail, I'll tell you. And I
was just saying before we went to break, before you
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got on board, if you're living in a home prior
to nineteen seventy seven and nothing's been done to it,
I don't know how you're going to afford energy. Give
me your thoughts on that.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
Yeah, I mean, even if we don't have a real
hot summer or a real cold winter, those rates are
thirty percent more than what you're paying now. So it's
you're going to have an increase for regardless, So you
factor in. You know, we typically can get hot, humid
summer's here. You're really going to be paying and it's
going to be uncomfortable. So our insulation would really tackle
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both issues and you know, you get the comfort with
the savings with it.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Yeah. I was. When I was talking to him, I
was asking, you know, what's driving this, and you know
he was just telling me. You know, first these giant
data centers and now with AI there's a big electrical demand.
We cool our homes with electricity. And I know my
biggest bills last year. I shouldn't say this because I
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didn't sit down and compare them, but the ones that
scare me the most are the summer bills. I agree,
we like comfort, probably too much comfort in the wintertime.
That done bother me to keep it sixty five sixty six.
But uh right, so I guess it's.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
Hard to stay you know, it's easier to warm up.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Really. Yeah, So again, let's talk a little bit about
what you guys do at USA Insulation, as I try
to tell you eventually you're not can be able to
afford to stay in a home that isn't insulating. How
many homes have you guys done in the even just
the greater Cincinnati area of the state of Ohio. You've
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done a lot?
Speaker 5 (04:24):
Yeah, I mean we've worn our fortieth year this year
and we have We've actually done over one hundred and
thirty thousand houses, So oh yeah, we've done a lot
over the years.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Yeah. Yeah, So let's talk about your product and how
you do it, because a lot of people were going like, well,
I live in old houses of brick houses. Got blessed,
but you can't insulate my home.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
Yeah, we can most likely. I mean we specialize in
homes built prior to really the nineteen eighties, So those
are the homes that are either uninsulated or underinsulated. And
what we do is we have our proprietary foam insulation.
We do everything from the exterior of the house injected
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in into the wall cavities or a wall seam if
it's a masonry build, and you know, fill that air
gap and it just makes a night and day difference.
Is really much easier to contain, you know, the heating
and cooling of the house, and we keep the elements
from weaken in. We also do attic insulation as well.
We do a loose plume fiberglass up in the.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Attic space, you know, to question you on that and
infect The guy from the Scott from TVA that I
was talking to around ten thirty, he was going, he
was telling me because you'd be surprised how many people
think they're up to snuff on attic insulation. But if
it's a blown in insulation and it's settled for the
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past fifteen twenty years, you're not adequately insulated, right.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
Right, Yeah, it's eventually it's going to need redone. And
especially if it's a home with the original insulation, you
know it's a twenty year old house. I mean most
likely it needs to be reinsulated, especially for our area
with our climate, so that'll that in itself will make
a nice improvement for the summer coming up with the heat.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Yeah. We yeah, I think we just take for granted.
I tell people yourself, or get a handyman up there
to measure what you got, because even though you had
probably sixteen seventeen inches, you might have twelve now.
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Right, Yeah, and that's that's quite a difference in our
value and you know, effectiveness. So it's definitely definitely something,
you know, especially this time of year, it's really a
smart thing to do. And we're you know, we're well
equipped to do an attic or you know, more of
a whole house or cross all all kinds of applications, so.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
You don't have to do one or the other. You
can do both, or you can just do addicts correct.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
Right, Yeah, especially if it's a newer type build, like
maybe something in the two thousands or late nineties, you know,
they may just need the addic done, but you know
you got something in the nineteen seventies or under most
likely the walls an attic should so.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
I probably need you for my attical maybe, yeah, I
probably do. The house was built in two thousand.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
Yeah, that's twenty five years already, so it probably does.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Yeah, yeah, we may definitely take a look at it
because everybody better prepared with the energy cost. You and
I had this pretty much same conversation every year, and
you know it's ten percent, five thirty percent. I mean
it just you just keep climb climbing the ladder. So
if you have a hole nose nineteen eighty, nineteen seventy five,
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and let's say there's very little or none in terms
of insulation inside the walls, how do you guys take
care of that?
Speaker 5 (08:13):
Yeah, So basically if there is existing insulation. The nice
thing with our application with the foam, it's a fully
expanded product, So we're just pushing it with compressed air
and basically it'll compress down that old insulation, pushes it
out of the way, and then we fill in all
the dead air space and air gaps. So just steal
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up the wall from the air league. See that's really
at that point what's fighting the home, you know with
your thermostat, which you're trying to keep the right also
of a certain environment. So it'll just steal up, you know,
the walls, which really makes all the improvement. So it's
definitely something we can reinsulate.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
So you've been doing this. USA Insallation has been doing
this for forty years. Got would you say, one hundred and
thirty thousand homies?
Speaker 5 (09:03):
Yes? Yes, yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:05):
What what is your feedback? What? What what are people
telling you after they have you insulate their homes in
terms of energy cost, in terms of comfort, in terms
of where they're setting the thermostats. I mean you've had
to have great feedback.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
Oh yeah, right, and and you know ours is you know,
it's white time of the home once the insulation's in there,
so obviously over time you'll see the improvements. You know,
give it some billing cycles. But I mean as soon
as we insulate these houses, but people just notice it's quieter,
you know, just more even temperatures room to room. I
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mean it does work instantly, especially coming from an older
house that's not well insulated, to go from basically nothing
to foam. It's science. It's going to work. So it's
something it is noticeable right right when we finish installing it.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Yeah, I know a lot of people always want to
know if you're pumping foam in my walls, and I
need to get in there and do the repair, run
some wires, but now you fill the cavity up, can
you still run wires and stuff? Can you fish wires there? Right?
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Yeah, we get that question all the time, and it's, uh, yeah,
it's a logical question to ask. But our our foam
you can't tell from the videos and everything, but it
is a soft material. It doesn't get real hard once
it's in the wall. It's like a very soft styrofoam.
So if you ever had to need to get into
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the wall, you just simply you can, you know, cut
through it. You can really just push a wire right
through it. So it's very accessible. It's really no harder
than batting, you know, fiberglass battering right.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Right, I'm trying to think what listeners are questioning when
we're talking, and I us one of the things when
you is the safety of it, not only from off gassing,
but if you had a fire, right.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Yeah, that's important questions. So that's a nice thing with
our proprietary injective foam. It is a Class one A
fire rated product, so it's rated up to two hours
of flame exposure, so it's got a great fire rating, waterproof,
it's a closed cell phone. You get to hire our
value fringe and then it is non toxic. There's just
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no off gassing. No you knowcs from aldehyde. You know
it's American made, we manufacture it, but it's it's definitely
a safe product.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
How long does it take you to insulate a home?
Speaker 5 (11:48):
We can do most homes in one day. I mean
it's it's really a one day application. If it's a
real big house, we try to put two crews or
but we're cop to get it done that day.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Okay, Okay, Nate, if you can hang on for a second,
I'm gonna take a break. I just got a few
more questions. I want to get to you and we
can talk a little bit about cost and return on investment,
et cetera. And Nate Burgessey as my guest. Here's with
USA Insulation, and we shall continue. You're at Home with
Gary suvn right here in fifty five KRC the talk
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Speaker 3 (12:37):
All right back at it, We go at Home with
Gary Salvyn talking. Nate Burgessey is with USA Insulation, we've
been talking about what they can do for you to
make your home more energy efficient. One last question on
the procedure of pumping the insulation into the walls and
doing your addic We've blown in insulation, and I guess
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even if you have a home in the two thousands
that was built in early two thousands, you better callman.
I got that on my list, Nate and May. I
may procrastinate a while, but I really feel like it
probably needs to be done. According to you, it probably does.
So we'll be chatting. When you put the insulation in
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the walls in older homes or you know, I guess
they're older now, yeah, eighties, nineties, I guess sometimes there's
even mistakes made in construction and you may find some
voids in that insallation.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
Also, but yeah, and these houses get older, you know, yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Yeah, exactly. So you go from the outside and pumping
in how big of a space do you need?
Speaker 5 (13:55):
Well, two by four obviously most construction, and so that's
that's more than sufficient. But you know, even these nineteen fifties,
nineteen sixties brick block constructions, we can insulate and that's
typically only a three quarter inch to an inch air gap.
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But what we actually do is we drill five eighth
inch holes into the mortar joints and then we basically
pressure fill it and we monitors it goes hold a
hole and fill that airploid and then we'll remortar grolt
the joints. So okay, Yeah, so as long as there's
a space, I mean, most likely we can inject our
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foama and boam.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Has a higher R value than blown in right per
inch of thickness.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
Yeah it does. And the more important thing really than
even the R value, that's an air barrier like you
just can't get with. You know, it doesn't matter that
our value of fiberglass cellulose, I mean, air will filter
through it, right, So that's really the key thing.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Well, when you talk about that, you're so right. If
you can eliminate the draft. If anybody you know wants
to know how much draft you have from outside, just
take a a screwdriver and take off your duplex cover
outlet and if there's a weather striper on there, take
that off there. I mean it's like a hurricane of
cold air.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Yeah yeah, it just shoots right in.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Yeah, sure does, it sure does. So we were talking
again with Scott from the TVA, and he was talking about,
you know, look for you know, good deals rebates from
your energy company. Depending on where you live, maybe your
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provider can you kind of fill sin on cost and
whether there's any help out there.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
Right, So, I know, the big thing with us, we're
known for that we advertise a ninety nine a month
no interest financing and that's it's on a pre credit
through Wells Fargo. But basically, if you know, we we
come out, give you a free estimate. If it's something
you decide you want to move forward with, we do
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have options with that. And it's really a nice way
to pay for an insulation project because it is money
in a sense, it's really money you're already spending, you know,
with the you know, the overpaying the utility company. So
this this allows allows you to basically reallocate that interest
free payment and then you you know, there's no pre
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payment penalty as well, so you could just spread it out,
allow it to pay for itself, or if you want
to pay it off early you can. So that's been
a real popular way to do it. And there's also
a federal energy credit they still have through the government
and on insulation, it's up to twelve hundred dollars, which
is a nice chunk back you would get come tax time.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Okay, So when you're talking to your one hundred and
thirty thousand customers after you've insulated their house, everybody wants
to know what is I mean, I know there's no
specific answer, but you got to have a general thing.
What is the return on that investment? In other words,
if I'm paying that ninety nine dollars a month, how
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long does it usually take to plus you're saving all
the money on the energy, You're exactly right, I mean, yeah,
pay me now or pay me later. I mean the
longer you wait, the longer you're wasting.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Your money, right right, So I mean the sooner you insulate,
the sooner you start really saving. And it's it just
pays for itself. But yeah, as far as a return,
I mean every obviously every house is different, every house, right, right,
But on an average, I would say most houses we inslate,
older homes, I would say, you know, four or five
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years as a pretty good payback. You know, some might
be a little longer. We have some a little quicker,
but it you know, it is something over time. It
pays for itself and you get to keep the insulation.
I mean the savings are there lifetime of the house, right,
so it really it's something that will keep on giving
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once it's initially done.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Yeah, when you were talking about how the regular insulation,
the blown in and the attic, you know come mats
together and starts becoming less effective. Does this have a
shelf life behind the walls or is it once and
done in the last fifty years or work?
Speaker 5 (18:38):
Yeah, well it's better. It's the lifetime of the house.
So it's we were once and done. As far as
the foam and the walls, it doesn't go anywhere, It
doesn't break down subtle just basically molds like a puzzle
piece to that that cavity. And yeah, it doesn't deteriorate
like you're conventional blowing or subtle. Now, the attic insulation,
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we do blow enough of an R value that'll last
multiple decades. But with any loose material as you were
mentioning with your attic and may need done, it's just
over time with gravity it will settle. But you know
that should last multiple decades. So if we reinsulated.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Had a call to day and we were talking about
this lady, she had a one story home that became
a two story home and it was kind of screwed
up in terms of ventilation, and I started talking about
maybe maybe we talk about insulating everything, and she wasn't
familiar with it. But whole house encapsulation. Do you guys
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get any inquiries on that in the Ohio market. I
know it's really big in the southeast Southwest where you
just encapsulate under the roof and make your whole house
a conditioned space.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, we do that as well with
our spray p home insulation, so we can steal the
whole roof deck off and you know, that's a nice
way to do it. It's going to be more expensive
than just blowing conventional in the more space of the attic,
but it's yeah, especially if they're going to convert it
to like a liverapol space or just want it just
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to you know, if they store stuff up there. But
that's a great way to do it. Absolutely, And even
if you're building a house that's the you really got
one shot to do it right, the right way, and
we would just spray everything, walls, crawl space, walls, roof
deck I mean everything would be controlled.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
I know.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Another thing I get questions on a lot is crawl spaces,
uh and rim joices by the basement and underneath crawl space.
Do you guys do any of that?
Speaker 5 (20:50):
Yes, absolutely so, And that's a that's a great area
to insulate, especially if it's you got hard floors. You know,
you got duck working there, and like a cross space,
we seal off that perimeter just takes a lot of
pressure off of that conditioned aire that enters the houles
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and it really stops the air leaks coming up up
through the floor. So and we do basement van Joyce
as well, and that kind of application. So yeah, it's
a great, great thing to insult.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Well, the one thing everybody's talking about is tariffs. Tariffs, tariffs.
The price is going to go up on insulation or not.
Yours is made.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Ware in the USA, so we're tariff free, all right.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Well, yeah, it sounds like that's going to be important.
So that's why I asked.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, and nowhere he's there and yeah,
so that's a good thing to know.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Well, if you want to book an appointment or talk
to Nate or investigate the ninety nine dollars a month
interest free program that they have gone on. Nate, how
do you get a hold of a USA insulation.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
Yeah, they you can reach us at our direct number.
It's going to be five one three three eight one
thirty six twenty six. That's three eight one foam. Or
they can reach us at USA Insallation dot com and
there's a button on there. They can fill out their
information and we can contact them to schedule a free consultation.
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So we're very accessible and I can even come out
just uh and take a look if we get their information,
and sure we'll schedule appointment that works best for them.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Sounds great, Nate, thanks for joining us, have a great summer,
and I encourage everybody if one of those points are
a hot button at your house, to give Nate a call. Thanks, buddy,
appreciate it. Yeah, thank you, Gary, take care all bye.
All right, that's Nate Burgess USA Installation. We've had him
on many times. And I'll tell you what I last
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weekend when I heard the twenty per cent more electricity,
I have to admit I did a joke a bit.
I think we all have all right. Uh. The Donovan
Auto Show is next and Joe, thank you very much.
I appreciate always a pleasure to work with you, and
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