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Speaker 1 (00:07):
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(00:28):
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Speaker 2 (00:41):
Good morning.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
I am Ron Wilson, your personal yard boy talking about yarding,
and as I promised, it is time for weather. It's
the weather and in the trees starring our amateur meteorologist
and Registered Consulting Arborist ISA Board Certified Master Arborist. He's
got some time. As matter of fact, he has a
new one. I'm sure you'll explain it to us. His

(01:02):
website is Arbordoctor dot com ladies and gentlemen. Mister ron
rothis good morning.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Sir, good morning, how are you?

Speaker 1 (01:11):
I am good great to hang out with you this
week at Mad Tree Brewery and uh with Steve Foltz
and Bill de Boor and Missus de Boor and the
whole group and giving away lots of uh uh tupelo
or black gum trees. And I see you got one
for yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
I got two for myself.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Ohou taken two?

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Well? He said I could take five, and I was
kind of running late for another engagement because I am,
of course on demand. So yes, a good dad'll. Otherwise
I would have I would have made multiple in and
out trips to get my five. But yeah, I got
two at the add to the two that I already
have in my yard. I have a green gables and

(01:53):
a wildfire black gum in my yard. And these of
course were street species that they were given away the
other night. So yeah, always been one of my favorite trees.
I love that tree and the story that goes with it.
Do we have time for that neat story? You know,
different trees have different common names, and some you know,

(02:15):
that's why we have botanical names for block gum it's mississiovatica.
But block gum goes by a lot of different common names,
block gum, black tupelos, sour gum, tupelo gum, just a
whole bunch of common names. Well, there was a lady
up in Connecticut many many years ago who had a

(02:36):
son who had major food allergies. And so the doctor said,
you need to bake your own cookies and cakes and
breads so that you will know that the ingredients that
are being put into those are ingredients that your son
is not allergic to. So she did that, and her

(02:57):
creations were wonderful, and her friends tried them out and said,
you know, this is great. You need to start selling
this stuff. So she lived on a farm in Connecticut
and had an outbuilding. So she turned the outbuilding into
a little bakery where she started to bake her creations
to sell. Well, this bakery, this building was shaded by

(03:18):
two giant black gum trees. But in Connecticut, the black
the regional name for the black gum is pepperidge tree.
So she named her enterprise Pepperidge Farm. And now you
know the rest of the story.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
You know you should have tried to change your voice.
So you sounded more like Paul Harvey.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
I should have tried. I always loved Paul Harvey, so
to do that. That actually was a Paul Harvey rest
of the story a number of decades ago, and of
course since black Gum has always been one of my
favorite trees, when he did a rest of the story
on that tree, obviously it's stuck with me. Sure.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
Oh absolutely, I loved those segments. I thought they were great,
all of them, you know, because it was all you
You've paid attention to find out what was the rest
of the story. Uh, those were outstanding. So that's a
great is a great story.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
By the way, Mike Rowe is doing some similar things today.
Matter of fact, he said that it's kind of modeled
after Paul Harvey's rest of the story. He calls it
the way I heard it. It's not exactly the same,
but it's similar. And Mike Rowe has said that he definitely,
you know, really enjoyed the rest of the story segments too.

(04:41):
So there you go.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
It's amazing his voiceovers up here and so many different things.
You're watching TV and you realize this Mike row doing
the uh uh doing those talking about Ron Roethlis though,
and that's the important person today. And we do want
to thank the Bill de Boor and all the folks
at Woody Warehouse and of course the folks at Mad
Tree Brewery for giving away four hundred and fifty black

(05:05):
gums to be planted in the Cincinnati area. And they
were absolutely free. Those were nice too. Those were like
four and five feet tall. Those were just little saplings.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yeah, they were beautiful trees. You know what's interesting too.
You mentioned my new credential, which is a prescription tree
pruning credential. I went up to Well, I went up
last fall to Wooster, Ohio for two day workshop with
doctor ed Gilman on prescription tree pruning, and then this

(05:35):
April Lindsay Purcell did the full prescription tree pruning training
up in Indianapolis. Well I had ordered some trees from
Woody Warehouse go to Bor's place, and he's been after
me for a couple of years to come out and
see the nursery. So I was going to send one

(05:55):
of my team numbers up there, but it's like, well,
I'm going up to Indianapolis with my new arborus, Mandy Ganjief,
who comes to us from Portland, Oregon. So Mandy and
I both went up to Indianapolis for the three day
training and prescription tree puning, and then afterwards I drove
on out to the west to Woody Warehouse and did

(06:16):
an hour or tour around the nursery with Bill, picked
up my plants, and came back to Cincinnati. So I
got to see Woody Warehouse in their operation, which is
quite impressive out there, while at the same time you
qualifying for the prescription tree punting. So see how that
all gets wrapped up. You know, you're like, where's he

(06:37):
going with us?

Speaker 1 (06:38):
Whether you get well the whole point you were able
to travel for four or five days and make it
a business trip.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Yeah, fall, I'm going to be doing even more than that,
So there you go. I'm doing twenty five days this
fall to New Zealand and Australia for the International Society
of Arboriculture conference, So I'm making that a business.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Oh excuse me.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
If the International Socide of our Book Culture is going
to have their annual conference in christ Church, New Zealand,
and I just turned sixty years old, so it's like
I've got to start taking advantage of these things.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
So uh, you know, me.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
On and if you want to have me on in October,
we better figure out what the time. What the time
differentially is.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
You'll have to get up in the middle of the night,
I guess and do that. I'll never make it to
eat one of those places, because I don't think I
could stay in an airplane that long, for that long
period of time. But there you go, all right, talk
with Ron Roth.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
I already have my flight reservations. It's seventeen hours and
twenty minutes time. Eighteen hours man Dallas to Sydney. Yep.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
I couldn't do it. I don't think I could do it.
No way, talk with Ron Rothis are certified oarburst obviously,
and of course an amateur meteorologist, So I guess 'ron.
The first thing I want to take a look at
is looking back to the spring of twenty twenty five.
If I had to summon up based on just the
gut feeling, I would say it was a cooler than

(08:08):
usual and more rainfall than usual. And you're gonna probably
come back to him to and say, well, some days weren't,
some days weren't, and all I reached out to where
it normally would be, Or am I right?

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Well? It was kind of a strange spring. March was
very warm this year, at least here locally, we were
six point seven degrees above normal, and April was two
degrees above normal, So it was the spring was the
spring was warm. May was actually about a degree below normal,

(08:47):
so we got cooler as the spring went on, But
overall I think it averaged out in Cincinnati at least
well above normal, although last year was really about normal.
I think February last year was ten degrees above normal,
so it probably seemed a little bit cooler this year.
Precipitation overall was well above normal, but surprisingly May at

(09:13):
my location was an inch below normal. But even that
is misleading because April was way above normal and May
had a lot of wet days. And his buggy Joe
has pointed out a number of times on your show
and many other places, when you get a lot of

(09:33):
heavy rain, it can actually knock the disease spores off
of tree leaves. When you get a lot of wet, damp,
moist days, it just allows the disease spores to party
hardy and you get a lot of follier diseases. And
because we had so many wet days this spring, and

(09:54):
in May, a lot of cool wet days when it
didn't rain hard, but it was just drizzly, or maybe
we got a tenth or two tenths to one inch
of rain really facilitated a lot of disease issues. We
had a diagnostic walk about on Monday with Buggy Joe

(10:14):
High a green industry association down at Spring Grove Cemetery
and oar Boretam and we looked at the original the
parent plant for the Spring Grove dogwood, and it was
ravaged with I think it was septory at least spot
really was being affected by it. And Joe made the
comments that he'd never seen that on Spring Grove cultivar before,

(10:37):
and it's just because, I mean, I think the consensus
was the tree is going to be okay, but esthetically
it didn't look too good. And I think the consensus
was that, you know, it's just been one of those years.
And of course Spring Grove Cemetery itself is down in
the Mill Creek Valley of Cincinnati, so you get a
little bit more fog and moisture down there, and if

(10:58):
you get more fogg and moisture in a year, that's
already voiced it's really just facilitate those bowler diseases.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
And I think I've gotten more emails this year with
the leaf spot on dogwood that I think I've ever seen. Uh,
and you know, not just a tree form, but the
red twig variegated. All of those have all had leave spot,
probably worse than I think I've ever seen it, basically,
like you said, because of the way the weather has
been talking with Ron rothis' website is arbordoctor dot com.

(11:27):
So we're gonna come out of this spring season going
in again too the summer season. What does he see.
We're into the meteorological summer already starting the first of June.
So what's Ron gonna see over the June, July, and
August months of summer. We'll find out after the break.
Here in the Garden with Ron Wilson.

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Speaker 1 (12:13):
Got a great gardenwalk tour going on this weekend today
and tomorrow, so twenty seventh Newport Garden Walk sponsored by
the East Road Garden Club and down in the local
historic district in the northern Kentucky. For more information learn
more about it, go to their website Eastrogardenclub dot org.
That's East Road Gardenclub dot org. Welcome back here in

(12:36):
the Garden with Ron Wilson, special guest this morning, the
arbor Dock Ronroth is his website arbordoctor dot com talking
about the spring season, what it felt like, but yet
what's the reality of it? And that's what he's all about,
is that he charts it so we know exactly the
reality of what we thought. Is typically never what we thought.
It's always something different. But in the end it all

(12:58):
seems to average out, doesn't it.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yes, it does. And just because I was that way,
I think some of the other areas in the Ohio
Valley were actually were even a little bit wetter. In May,
there was one thumbstorm complex particular, that dumped on the
airport and moved in my direction, and I could see
it from my house and it was coming in and

(13:23):
it just dissolved as it came in, and I got
almost nothing. I think the airport got an inch and
I got nothing, So I was an inch below normal
for the month, and that one missing, that one thunderstorm
made that difference. So you know, other areas I think
were closer to normal or even a little bit above
normal for May. But I think the take on message
is whether you were a little bit below normal or normal.

(13:45):
We had a lot of wet days and that's what
really was the biggest factor when it came to horticulture.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
And then in the second take on, I wanted to
just quickly mention before we talk about your prediction, is
that you brought up seeing the sub a leaf spot
on the Spring Grove dogwood, which is an outstanding selection
of white dogwoods. By the way, that thing is phenomenal.
But seeing a lot do what, Oh yeah, it's it's

(14:13):
and if you want to see the parent plant, just
go to Spring Grove Cemetery and I'll read them. But
seeing a lot of love, well yeah, but still, I
mean it's a great tree. But and even the protection
that it had got lost with a storm, and there
was some questionnaire to see what it would do now
was in full sun and it's still doing great. So
But point being is, at this stage in the game,

(14:34):
we're seeing a lot of leaf spot on. We're seeing
an apple scab, we're seeing the subtory leaf spot, we're
seeing these leaf diseases showing up some on the hydrangees.
At this point, when you see that, there's nothing you
can do. It's more you know, it's too late to
try to protect them anyway, So you've just got to
keep the plant as healthy as possible, rake up the
leaves as they drop. But no fund stytal applications, I'm

(14:56):
assuming at this stage.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
Yeah, that's that's well right. I mean we're pretty well
passed the I mean, fungicides generally prevent or suppress infection,
they don't cure it once it's there. But I think
one of the other take on messages is that, you know,
we talked about the spring grove, something doug wood down
there that doesn't look good this year. People tend to

(15:19):
see that. They panic, you know, they start dumping fertilizer
on the tree and the run out and get a
fung aside. I've even had people see you know, that
leaf spottle over a tree like that, and they'll run
out and get malefion and spray it, which is insecticide.
It says nothing, you know, and it's like, no, just
settle down, calm down, you know, we don't have to
go crazy. Just realize that that one year, one bad year,

(15:43):
is not going to destroy the plane, at least not
with a lot of these leaf spot diseases. If it's
a cultivar or a plant that gets them every year,
that is going to cut down on the photosynthetic potential
a lot. So you might want to plan a you know,
fungicide program in the future for you know, future years

(16:04):
for a plant like that. But if it's one band year,
don't sweat it, you know, just write it out this
year and it'll probably be fine next year. Yeah. So,
but but you know, overreacting, you know, fertilizer can actually
lots of nitrogen fertilizer can actually increase disease susceptibility. Uh,
you know, mauthion, you're just killing beneficial accepts. You're not

(16:26):
doing anything with a fungal disease. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
The bottom line is, don't spray anything until you know
for sure what it is and whether or not you
even need to spray. And I get that all the time. Well,
I got out those the whatever. Then I sprayed it
and that still has it. Well, guess what, it's a disease.
It's not an insect and you know whatever. But yeah,
make sure you know what it is, diagnose it, figure
out if you even need to spray for it, and
then what is the best thing to spray with Talking

(16:50):
with Ron rothis the Arbordoctor auberdoctor dot com. Okay, we
got about a minute and a half to go, so we're
looking now we're into the meteorological summer June, July and August.
What are you seeing as we transit amount of where
we've been this spring end of the summer.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
I'll tell you what I'm seeing my manage meadow at
my house, although my summer blooming plants coming on strong,
so I'm looking forward to it. From a standpoint of weather,
it's looking hot over a good part of the country
this summer. Above normal over most of the country with
a caveat. When we say above normal, we're saying, you know,

(17:25):
above the thirty year average, which with climate change tends
to be more often than not anymore. It looks like
the best chance of being closer to normal or the
or the area that maybe isn't going to be quite
as bad is going to be from the upper Mississippi

(17:45):
Valley in Great Lakes down in the Ohio and Tennessee Valleys,
so those areas might be have more days that are
more moderate, maybe even some cooler days thrown in like
we've had already this early summer. But New England and
Florida and areas from Louisiana to the northwest, it's going

(18:07):
to be hot a lot of the areas, a lot
of the country is going to be dry, but east
coast the Appalachians are the best chances above normal precipitation
in the High Valley to go either way.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
And if you want to learn more, go to this website.
It's arbordoctor dot com. Ron Roth's always a pleasure, take care.
Coming up next, Marbie Bletcher, what's happening to the bees
here in the garden with Ron Wilson.

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