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Speaker 1 (00:34):
Our toll free number eight hundred eight two three eighty
two five five. Good morning. I am Ron Wilson, your
personal yard boy talking about yard agann boy. I'll tell
you what. He's one of my favorite guests. Love having
this guy on. We just can't get enough of him.
But he's so busy traveling around the world looking at plants,
hugging the babies, kissing the mommies, doing all that kind
of stuff, signing autographs. It's crazy. You know who I'm
(00:56):
talking about. He's a well known writer, speaker, horticulturalist. He
travels the world sharing his passion for plants. I think
he's been given about every prestigious award for writing, and
there's work of the horticulture that anybody could ever get.
Ladies and gentlemen, the one, the only, doctor, Allen Apple Armitage.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Good morning, Good morning, my friend. How are you this morning?
It sounds like you're in fine.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I am doing great. Have you had any apples yet
this morning?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
That's it. I I'm trying to do this low carb
thing because you know, I want the heck, just one
more challenge and my apple turnovers. An apple scruddle doesn't
really quite on my menu. However, that will change soon
because you can only you can only stay away from
that stuff for so long.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
I mean, apples are good for you. Come on, even
though they're deep deep fried or whatever they may be.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
No, believe me, I am ready to get it. In
fact right now, it's it's it's I don't know where
you are, which your temperature is there you are, but
good grief, it was in the thirties last night here,
so I'm sure it was pretty chilly there as well.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yeah, we had a freeze morning until nine o'clock this morning,
so we've been going through that for the last several months.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Now. Oh winter, it just doesn't want to go away.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
It'll break. I don't know if you had doctor Armidy's
I don't know if you heard the news or not
before we came to you, but they said fifty two
percent of all people sing in the shower. Would that be?
Are you in that percentage?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
No, I just I listened to that just before we
came on, or I don't know, and now I know
I don't listen to the news. But the fact the
fact I didn't even know what that song was, I not.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
But yeah, Dan, our producer, I both look atach other said, no,
I wouldn't sing that in the shower.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I sing at this hour, that door better be firmly closed,
that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Fuck, it's good fun to sing. But as soon as
I start singing, my wife just closed with a door
and that's it.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
So how about when you're out in the garden do
you play music out there and you're in your gardener singing?
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Sometimes I do. Actually, you know, the garden is actually
beautiful here. We're we're obviously a little ahead of you,
and I've got some spectacular things I'm looking at right now.
You can hear the bergs in the distance, and so yeah,
I know, I I hum my sing if people say, gee,
you must work a lot in the garden, and I
guess I do. But you know, if you like what
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you do, it's really not work.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Is it.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
No, it's not. Talking with doctor Alan Armitage. His website
is Alan armitage dot net if you're interested in any
of his books, signing up for his podcasts, and of course,
the absolute best gardening app that's out there that's available
for you it is Armitage is Great Garden Plants by
Alan Army's back Pocket Gardening. Uh just absolutely outstanding. And
you know, I was watching an interview with you the
(03:42):
other day with I think with Brian, and you were
talking about common sense questions and answers and things like that.
You know what the common sense answer is to all
of those all those questions, get doctor Armitage's app.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Oh there you go.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
I keep trying to tell people that, but you know
they look at me like I'm a little a little weird.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Well, I can't wait for you to say that. I
thought you were going to say, Well, you know, Brian,
the best answer for all of these common sense of
goal answer would be just get my gardening.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
At I mean, it actually has, it has, it's quite popular,
and it works well, and it's got pretty simple stuff
but also a little bit more in depth and for
sure every day things that you can find online. So yeah,
I'm very proud of it. It is great, and I
hope people do get it. You know, it costs as
much as a very very very bad Hamburger four ninety nine,
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so and it's there for the rest of your the
rest of your gardening day, so you might as well.
Uh people, people seem to like it, and I seem
to do it, and I'm always working a darn thing,
so I'm getting tired of it. But it is, it is,
it is great. It's great to have.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
And of course you're doing the podcast and all that
as well. And again you've learned about what this is
at his website at Alan arm and he's done. Now
let's get started with looking at your garden. I was
looking in at the pictures the other day and I
noticed background the deciduous hollies that you have in flower
right that you haven't flower right.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Yeah, they you know, we the deciduous as alias are spectacular,
and you know they're natives. I say they're native. There's
native species and the hybridizers and the breeders have made
them more brilliant orange and more fib it is gold
and more fragrant, and uh certainly gosh, I mean right now,
they're they're they're they're flowering here and I can't get
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enough of them. They tolerate just about every condition, sunshade,
they like, afternoon shade. But boy, oh boy, they are beautiful.
They are they are part of the wild garden. If
you and I hope Ron you're gonna get your bust
load of your listeners, then come see me here. But uh,
this is when you come in the gate. This is
what I call the wild garden because that's the first
thing you see.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
So do we have to we have to act wild
when we go in there, or.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
It says it says on the gate the secret Garden
admission one bottle of good wine. So I mean, once
you get that stuff olden, there's there's still stopping us.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
So so mad dog ripple that No, that stuff counts right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Look, get back a rug. No, No, it's a lovely place.
It's a small garden, but it yeah, it's just pretty
right now. And of course in the heat of July
comes home be clutters pretty, but it's certainly lovely now.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Well, I seriously on the on the azaleas, I mean,
that's one of the things that it seemed like when
I was much younger in this industry, we saw a
lot of those. Then it seemed to kind of go away.
That folks that lost lost the interest. But today there's
a lot of great new varieties back on the market
again that and again they're tough and durable, uh, consistent bloomers,
and the colors are spectacular.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Well, well, the other thing too. You know, they all
have native azalea stock in them. You know the Japanese
azaleas that are everywhere. And I don't know how many
azaleas you guys right up in Cincinnati area. But the
fact is they're everywhere here. They're beautiful, they're there, they're lovely.
They're easy to propagate and produce. But these these and
I'll call them deciduous as as a postonators because they're
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definitely native ours. But boy, they they put many things
to shame.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
They already do they do?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
I hope they hope they're available at you at the
various outlets.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Oh, I mean, they're out there. It's just that a
lot of folks just don't know what they are.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, Allen, they're in flower. They're pretty hard to ignore.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
And it's like, what is that thing? There's no doubt
about it. Talk with doctor Allan Armitage. His website is
Alan Armonis dot net. Be sure and check it out.
And you just got back from a little trip out
to California little plant trials out there, any anything that
really impressed you while you're out there?
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Boy, oh boy, you know that this is the California
Spring Trials where you know, when you come down to it,
there's not a whole lot of plant breeders in the world,
ornamental plant breeders, So most of them get together along
the coast of California. So the people like myself and
the court people like you, the garden center people, the
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box store people, the people are buying and displaying plants
for your consumers. Uh, they get to see what's going
to be new for the next year. And yeah, it's
it's a wonderful opportunity. And you know, so many of
these readers, you know, they really they're they're their main
dealer are the annuals, the portunities, the caliber coos, and
they're spectacular. But there are a lot of good new
(08:28):
perennials out there this year, and certainly one of the
groups of plants that is really being you know, hoisted
out there are the Dalias and the Bogonias. As far
as the annuals and as far as perennials, Boy, look
out for the digitalists that are coming down the road
by they're spectacular. Yeah, it's kind of cool. So well,
you know, from the point of view of the gardener,
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digitalists are to me, just a no brainer. Whether they're
an annual or a BUI annual or a perennial. It
doesn't matter. You get your money's worth when you have
digitalis because give that spike look great cut flower, beautiful
colors and you know they just the kind of late
springy thing. They're they're beautiful and this and some of
the breeding I saw was for especially for the person
(09:12):
who were growing them. All the colors come off with once,
they don't need a vitalization period. It's really kind of
interesting and quite quite beautiful.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Talk with doctor Alan Armitage. Of course, his website again
is Alan Armitage dot net. We'll take a quick break,
we come back. Lots more questions for the doc. Here
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Speaker 1 (12:32):
Welcome back here in the garden with Ron Wilson's special
guest this morning, Doctor Allan Apple Armadage is in the house.
Actually he's in his own garden right now. Because you
can hear the birds in the background chirping away. He's
got his jacket on because it's a little cool out
there this morning. And no apple fritters so far this morning.
But I saw a picture of you with that new grille.
(12:54):
You didn't makes on your face.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah, well, you know, we're fortunate here. We can. I mean,
I gonna do a lot of barbecuing. There's not a
big barbecue person. But we got this gribble. So I
got my eggs, my bacon, and all my silly foods
that I enjoy eating. You put them on a gribble
right in the garden, so you know, the plants, the
plants can smell the good the good bacon cooking.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
The only thing I saw there was bacon. I didn't
see any eggs or anything else. That's that's okay with me.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Picture, I don't know. I don't know where that came from.
But uh no, you know, we're you know, I'm just
so fortunate. We you know, it's pretty place, a lovely,
lovely place to call home. And on a gribble, so
I mean, what else is there? Well?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Yeah, really, And you know, if if you're like me,
if the recipe calls for a pound of bacon, you
buy two, one for you and one for the recipe.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Isn't that amazing? A pound of bacon and it's gone
like in a day, I mean the day food now.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
A day, a day, a couple of hours, it's gone house.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Well, we're trying to we're trying to be somewhat polite here.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Uh, talking with doctor Alan armidage his website Alan Armidy's
dot net. Check out his podcast, check out his gardening
app is absolutely the best guarding app all the four
ninety nine and it's a it's available for you, updated
on a regular basis. Of course all his great books.
What are you going to do? A follow up on
the on the story about the plant names?
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Well, you know that's that's interesting, this book of Naked
Ladies and Forgetting Me nots How plants get their common names.
There's been the tistum and you've you've been very very
kind Ron in letting people know about it. And it's
just it's a storybook and people love stories. So that's
what this podcast is about. Ron. You know, I'm an
old guy. What am I doing a podcast? You know,
(14:46):
like you said when we first talked this, morey some
some very very popular song in the shower. I've everyone
heard of. So here I am doing a podcast, but uh,
it's it's really I'm just telling stories. If you happen
to tune into the podcast, or of Joe Pie or
the story of you know what a dog would has
to do with dogs, or a fox one has to
do with foxes. So that's kind of stuff I enjoy sharing.
(15:09):
And that's that's so there's always stories coming out there.
I don't know if I'll do another book, but I
do find other stories to share that.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Works, that works, and I like I like what I
like the thing about these that that they are short
and sweet.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
They are they are that, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Talk and all the all the great plants. Quick question
for you when you were at those plant trials, you know,
as you're looking at the plant readers and obviously you've
you've been a plant reader for most of your career
as well, and have developed many new plants along the way,
are you I mean, are they reading more for foliage colors,
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anymore for flower for maintenance? Or they do you see
native plants coming into the the native art coming into
that fold a lot more now, any any kind of
a trend there, I mean, that's that you're seeing.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Well, you know when you when you're looking at these companies,
now these are and you you know these companies, the
Balls and Syngentas and all these people that are breeding
ornamental plants. They're a big deal. Of course, is you
know color, it's always color, maybe like Bogonia foliage colors
out there for sure. I mean they're those kind of
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wreck type pogonias, right, they're they're, they're, they're they're really
become popular. But the flowers and and uh natives, yeah,
because there's just not a whole lot of perennial breeders
in the nabor flower breeding category. When I say that
a lot, we have a bunch in this country and
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we always were not running out of perennial and believe me,
but uh, you know the yeah, the trend is to
market the plant to you the garden center or to
the landscaper, and marking the plant means let's come up
with something's going to catch the eye. So all of
the above, and you know, sometimes we just I don't
know how many more petunias or tallibricola one can stand,
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but those are still out there in stages.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
How about hydrangees, Oh I started, oh my godness, I
like pushing that button.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
There aren't as many of this year, thank goodness. But
some of they're really cool uh uh perennial stuff. There's
some you know, kind of new digitalist that that I
just mentioned quickly. And there's been uh. And there's new
you know Brunera that that false forget me not. There's
new hostage uh. And I tell you what I'm really
(17:32):
excited about. I don't know if you guys be able
to do in Cincinnati. I hope you try it. Are
some of the new garden ulster arias. You know, the
ulster aria has been a cut flower from Holland forever,
but the garden us arias the kind of zone something
trying to get into six. You know, they're they're they're
new and people don't know them. But I'm excited about that.
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I think that's gonna be fun if we can get
those out there.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Some of the ones we've looked at did did say
six on the on the description anyway, So yeah, we're
going to try to experiment with them a little bit
and see what I hope you And.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Of course, my my all time favorite is still the
new Hellibores that will be coming out Oh my god boy,
this is Hellibor city right here. I want to tell
you that they are. It's amazing what's going on there.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
You know you brought up bruner or brunera, and you
know there's a there's a plant, this a shade plant
that you know, folks just don't know about. I mean,
it's again, that's one that we just got to get
the word out there more. Especially you know, if the
deer eating your hostas and you're looking for something else
in that shade right there you go.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
I mean, no, I don't mean to chuck the little
deer because they are huge problem. They're just and again,
so ron I think I need your help to to
to read my new uh the new book that I'm
working on called Common Sense Gardening, And one of them
is what do I do about deer? And so it's
it's really really a tough situation. But you're right, choose plants.
(19:00):
Hopefully you can't choose some plants the deer aren't going
to go after unless they're starving to death. And something
like brunna or false forget me not, it's five rus
in the shade. It's colorful in the shade. It also
is is something that if you happen to have a
moist area, it does very very well there as well.
So I thought that's a cool plant.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Absolutely yeah, and great selections that are out there today.
You're absolutely right talking with doctor Allan Armitage again Alan
Armony's dot. That is the website, one last one before
we go here. You know, the the plant breeding that's
going on out there now with the glowing in the
dark plants, that firefly platunia. What's your thoughts?
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Have you got some yet? You know? So for your listeners,
it's a it's a platuna that literally glows in the dark. Okay,
but and I say it, but I went in one
hundred percent skeptical to come on, and I came out,
you know, maybe eighty percent skeptical. But it does. It's
it's really an interesting break, I guess I only call
(19:58):
it break to a really interesting in and breeding. They
have this bioluminescence gen So the little flower buds of
all the petunias in this particular one tend to glow.
But it has to be pitch black raw, and it
has to be really dark. I'm not sure that even
moon might be too bright. But I have some in
the garden here, So I'm going to get up at
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two o'clock in the morning and see if I can
see them, or just it's fun to talk about.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Or just stay doctor Allan Armony's always a pleasure Again
his website, Alan armonist Net. I'm sure we will talk
to you more as we go through the spring season, sir.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
I can't wait. Thanks a lot, everybody, all the.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Best, Take care, doctor Alan Armitage. Right here in the
garden with Ron.
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Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson and
are you a plant parent? You know where you got
all those houseplants? I mean think about it. You know
today the houseplants are just I don't know, they're high.
I mean it's crazy. Everybody's got houseplants. So you're a
houseplant parent. Well, you know, if you've got all these
houseplants out there and your houseplant parent, have you thought
about possibly being a houseplant grandparent? I guess you would
(23:09):
call it that when you start propagating your own houseplants
from the houseplants that you already have. Well, I'll tell
you what if you're not sure how to do it,
I have in my hand the ultimate guide. It's called
The Ultimate Guide to Houseplant Propagation by Lindsey Sisty. And
guess what Lindsay is with us this morning?
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Good morning, Good morning. How are you?
Speaker 1 (23:30):
I am great, Thanks for getting up so early and
talking with us this morning. Have you had your coffee already?
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Tea? Yes, tea?
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Is it green?
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Tea? Earl Gray? Great?
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Gray, got it?
Speaker 2 (23:41):
All right.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
We are having a discussion about teas earlier. All right,
talking about houseplant propagation, and of course, houseplants, Lindsay, are
as you well know, a hot, hot, hot right now.
I mean back to my college days in the seventies,
they were hot and they kind of disappeared. And today, wow,
crazy stuff. You've taken it to the next step and
(24:03):
you are now showing folks how to propagate those houseplants.
Tell me a little bit about why you got into
propagation of houseplants.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Yes, well, I am sort of the offspring of two
people who were into the seventies houseplant craize in their
college years, and so my parents both had all the
spider plants and the rubber trees from when they were
in college and they were, you know, just so or
(24:36):
after college maybe, and they were just so into plants.
And I always wanted to have a huge collection like
them growing up, and I just simply could not pack
it like they could. I did not have that natural
green thumb when I was younger like them, and so
I had to study and read books, and I bought
(24:58):
every houseplant book that I could as a kid. I
was just so determined to have this big, jungle like
environment that my father created for us as kids, and
I eventually had enough knowledge that it surpassed my parents,
and I guess you could say it kind of became
like a super hobby for me. And here I am
(25:19):
now writing a book about or I wrote a book
about how to create more of them, because I eventually
ended up with so many plants that I could keep
alive that when you have so many plants to keep alive,
you run out of space. Do you have to take
cuttings of them to keep them of a reasonable size,
(25:39):
and then you have to do something with all of
these cuttings, and you can't just throw them away. These
are beautiful plants, and well, if you want to gift
them to people, they'll say, well, how do I root them?
And you know, it's much easier to give people a
rooted plant or help people root them. And so I
found myself constantly explaining, well, this is what you do,
this is what you do. I would write it down
(26:01):
for people, and so it's just much more natural to
then start writing a book about this. And I started
writing a blog about it, and eventually I got a
book opportunity on how to do it. It just came
naturally as a result of building a jungle to create
a how to guide on how to create babies manage
(26:22):
a jungle.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
I thought you were going to say when I hand
out Now, when I hand out cuttings to somebody, I
hadn't buy my book.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
I actually do, but I totally because I don't want
to say, you know, I'm not trying to do that.
You know, I'm not trying to you know, sell my
book each time. But I do say, you know, well,
if you do need more information on it, because now
it is conveniently, you know, people will when they buy
things from me, They're always asking, well, oh, how do
(26:49):
I root this? And and how do I, you know,
root the monstero? Or how do I make babies out
of my allocation? And it is all there in my
book now and it really helps me out because I
don't have to answer every single question with pictures. And
so I said, well, it's on page twenty and it's
on page thirty, and I'm not meaning to sell my book.
(27:10):
It's just much more convenient. And you know, as as
I mentioned last time when we spoke, I'm bad at
self promotion, so I don't say buy my book, but
I'm like, well, if you would like, I do have.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
A book, yeah, and I'll sign it for you too,
right right talking with Lindsay Sisty. And the name of
the book is called the Ultimate Guide to Houseplant Propagation.
As a matter of fact, All theplant Babies dot Com
is your website. Be sure and check it out. And
you actually sell a lot of the plants that you
propagate through that as well. And just so folks know,
(27:47):
you actually have developed some of your own plants that
you do you have actually have a patent on the plants.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Yes, yes, I have one patent on a new species
of Allocacia called Alocasia green unicorn. It's a combination of
Alokeisha as lanii as a mother plant with Alokesia beginda
dragon scale. So some people listening might be familiar with
the dragon scale and as lannie I. I spread them
(28:17):
together to make this beautiful little baby, and I patented
it and now it can It's being mass produced by
tissue culture companies and can be found in plant stores
all around the world. So that was a really interesting
endeavor and cool endeavor for me because typically I will
propagate plants and just sell them in my shop. But
(28:38):
by patenting it this plant, I was able to then
get it mass produced and now you can find it
in places like home depot or plant shops in Netherlands.
So that was kind of a cool way to take
one of my creations internationally.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Absolutely, we're talking with Lindsay Sisty. The name of her book,
of course is they Ultimately the Houseplant Propagation. Her website
all theplant Babies dot com. You know what, I guess
the bottom line here is and I love it. By
the way, the in loving memory of all the houseplants
I unintentionally killed when first starting out. I hope this
book about creating more plants makes up for it. I
love the sheets of humor throughout the entire book. But
(29:19):
as folks, you know, we're looking at this. You know,
it is a risky thing to take cuttings and try
to get them to root in and continue on. I mean,
that's it's a bit of a risk there, and it's
kind of scary sometimes.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Yes, definitely. You know, every time I go to take
a cutting, especially of a plant that I love, or
at least when I first started off, I you know,
would hold my breath and uh, you know, I'm not
a very religious person, but i'd say no prayer that
I that I hope that the plant makes it. But
(29:53):
there are methods that kind of reduce that risk. There's
a there's a method that I described in the book
called air layering that works really well for some of
your house plants, especially something like a big monstera deliciosa,
which a lot of people have, the Swiss cheese plant,
(30:14):
or a big trailing philodendron, anything that has a long
winding branch or stem with big nodes. You can take
say a little baggy or saran wrap and fill it
with damp sphagnum moss and put it over. And people
who have outside gardeners who have maybe listening, have done
(30:39):
this before an air layer and you simply put the
sphagnum mos or a wet substrate on top of the
node with some serann wrap. You wrap it airtight and
you leave it there for a few weeks to a
month or two and allow the roots to grow before
you take the cutting. And this way there's really there's
no harm to the plant, not gonna rop the PMP,
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and if it roots, then great, then you take the cutting.
If it doesn't, then maybe that note is just you know,
not going to take and you can just remove the
baggie in the substrate and there you go. So it's
kind of like a try it before you buy it technique.
And I describe this with pictures and detail in my book,
(31:22):
so as you would say, so buy my book and
I'll sign it. I'm getting better at there you go.
But yes, air layering is an excellent try it before
you buy it is what I like to say, technique
of propagation, because you're not taking that cutting first.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Yeah, And I think the thing about that, to you know,
I always get the calls about I got this rubber
tree that's way overgrown or whatever, and you know what
do I do? And the thing that is if they
get that thing to root, and most of the time
it will. When you cut that off a lot of times,
that's a nice way to prove it. And next thing
you know, you've got lower branches coming out, and you
know you just started it all over again. So you
rejuvenated it and got a new planet at the same time.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Yes, yes, that's the best part that sometimes you'll get
multiple branches, yeah on the bottom.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Yeah, so before absolutely the name of the book is
called the Ultimate Guide the Houseplant Propagation, And I tell
you what is absolutely the pictures just alone, I mean
walk you through the entire process. But the way you've
written it, you make it very You feel comfortable by
the time you finished reading this book about giving this
(32:27):
a shot, even though it's a bit of a risk,
but you feel very comfortable. We did a very very
nice job, I have to say for this one. I've
recommended that several people so far and they have bought
it and loved it, and I highly recommend to our
listeners as well. Let's take a quick break, we come back.
I've got a lot more questions for Lindsay our again.
Her website is allthplant Babies dot com. The name of
(32:47):
the book, The Ultimate Guide the Houseplant Propagation. Lindsay sisty
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the garden with Ron Wilson our book today. And if
you want to have fun with your houseplants, this is
the book that you need. Is called The Ultimate Guide
the Houseplant Propagation. It's written by Lindsay Cisti. Her website
is allthplant babies dot com. It's a it's a fun read,
great illustrations, lots of humor throughout this entire thing. As
a matter of fact, if you don't know your nodes,
(35:26):
you'll know your nodes after you read this book. And
why it's important to know your nodes.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Is true.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Uh, you know what. It's one thing I did learn
on that page when I was reading the book the
first time was and I wasn't aware of this about
the blind cutting. I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
That's that's fantastic.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Yeah, if you take a cutting of certain plants leave
and are the petiole, which is a little piece of
stem that's attached to the leaf, you can root it,
but it will be this completely useless. So if you
take a cutting of a rubber tree leaf with a
(36:12):
little petiole attached, it will root and look beautiful and
have tons of you know, roots attached to it, and
it will never grow into anything.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
So is that all it does?
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Yeah, that's all it does. It just looks like a
leaf with a little bit of stem and a lot
of roots and never turns into a plant because it
has no stem tissue attached.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
So when I so that's why I need to know
my nodes so I know when I'm doing is propagating.
So when I see that, I think it's a succulent
that looks like a heart. Yeah, is that what that is?
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, that's so that's interesting because and that's why.
So okay, so this is confusing. That's a very good
question that you bring up. So succulent are a bit
different because succulents do root from the leaves. They have
(37:07):
to without getting too scientific on the air, but tissue
that is totipotent, which means this, well, here I go
getting too scientific. But it has cell It has cells
on the leaf itself that are able to turn into
leaves and stems and all that good stuff into a
(37:28):
whole plant. So succulent do have those special stems on
their individual leaves that will turn into a plant. However,
tropical plants, most of them do not have that ability
to just turn into a whole tropical plant from the
(37:51):
base of their leaves. If you cut the leaf off
and just try to root it from that leaf. And
so that heart that you're thinking of, that you see,
the Valentine's Day heart that you'll see, you know, sold
on February fourteenth, that chunky little heart is a hooya,
which is not It's a succulent. Yeah, it's a succulent
(38:12):
like tropical plant. And what people or nursery scrupulous nursery
men and women do is that they will cut the
base of a hoya leaf off and just stick it
in soil and sell that leaf. Now, if it was
a true succulent, it would have a better chance of
(38:36):
turning into a whole plant. But since it's a succulent
like tropical that is usually something that will just rot
and die, sadly, breaking many people's hearts on Valentine's Day.
How However, that being said, I did get one of
those that did turn into a full prant. And that
(39:00):
is because it's because it's me.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Because it's magic.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
No, no, no, I do not, Like I said, I
do not have a green thumb. I just work extra
extra hard and never give up. I really do not.
I happened to receive one that had a little bit
of stem tissue, like the base of the stem was
still attached to the cutting. So if the person cut
(39:29):
that petiole, which is the piece of little stem attached
to the leaf really low down and it had a
lot of stem tissue attached, then it has the chance
of growing into a full hoya heart. It's called hoya
carrie plant. So you can get lucky with those hearts.
(39:51):
They're not all a sham.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
There you go, and and see, we wouldn't have known that,
have we not had Lindsay Cissy on with us this morning.
And again the name of the book, The Ultimate Guide
to Houseplant Propagation, and if you want to learn more
about it, and I'm telling you this is a great read,
great illustrations, and you're gonna have a lot of fun.
And she does walk you through it and makes it
really simple for you. As far as being a plant propagator,
(40:13):
do you agree with me if I'm a plant houseplant parent,
if I started doing that, would be a houseplant grandkids, yes,
because those are my kids, so that would be the
grandkids in yes.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
And great grandkids. It's great.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
And that's a great way. You know, you got the
get you were gifted the houseplant from grandma or great
grandma or the Christmas cactus, well, you know, a great
way to take care of that is to set, you know,
propagate it. And of course if you're afraid to do
that because it was grandma's, this book will walk you
through that and you can hand that out and then
all the members of your family has a piece of
Grandma's Christmas cactters or whatever.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
It may be exactly. And it's actually a better way
of keeping that, you know, special plant, because you know,
God forbid, grandma's plants starts going downhill. I can't tell
you how many messages. That's actually the main way, the
main reason why people reach out to me is because
they inherited their grandparents special plant. I get message all
(41:11):
the time and they are afraid that they're going to
kill it. And one of the best ways to ensure
that you don't kill a plant is to make a
backup copy of it. So you take a cutting, and
then now you have two plants, and so if one
does go downhill, you have an extra copy. And I
(41:33):
always tell people about take a cutting, root the cutting,
have two of Grandma's plants, and then you have reassurance.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
And see she said, I get these emails because you
can actually get in touch with her and she'll help
you out as well. Of course, the book's going to
walk you through it as well. But she is also
available again on her website is allthplant Babies dot com.
The book is called the Ultimate Guide to Houseplant Propagation.
You know, I got about two minutes to go here.
One of the questions that always comes up when folks
are successful, like pothos, they put us some water or
(42:03):
spider plant their roots like crazy. When do I know
the transition from the water to the soil, when's the
best time to do that? And why can't I just
keep it in the water.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
Okay, well that's a great question. Well to adjust the
second part of that question first, is you technically can
keep it in the water. I mean, there are some
people and it's kind of been a big trend lately
as more and more people got into house plants and
started challenging the notion of like, well, why can I
keep it in soil? And so there's been a lot
(42:36):
of people on Instagram and YouTube and TikTok kind of
showing off their plants that like, hey, I've had this
in water for two years now and it's doing great.
And of course the water is not murky and algae
and doesn't look like a sea monster's growing in there
because these people are changing the water frequently and keeping
(42:58):
it fresh and looking clean. And so if you do
want to keep if you do want to keep a
plant in water, just change the water out frequently so
that it does look fresh. But when you are taking
cuttings and putting it in water, just wait until the
roots are one and a half to two inches long
and then transfer it to water. You should be just fine,
(43:21):
especially on a poto.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
There you go. That's the word from Lindsay Systey in
the name of her book, The Ultimate Guide the Houseplant Propagation.
Have fun with your houseplants and propagate. And I think
there's a follow up coming to this on the proper
Wine music to play in the background and the whole
nine yards while you're propagating your plants. That could be
part two. Lindsay Systey, always a pleasure. Good to having
you on. Great book.
Speaker 3 (43:44):
Thank you so much, thank you, all right, thank you, Ron,
all right.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
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two five five. Good morning. I am Ron Wilson, your
personal yard boy talking about yard agann boy. I'll tell
you what. He's one of my favorite guests. Love having
this guy on. We just can't get enough of him.
But he's so busy traveling around the world looking at plants,
hugging the babies, kissing the mommies, doing all that kind
of stuff, signing autographs. It's crazy. You know who I'm
(00:56):
talking about. He's a well known writer, speaker, horticulturalist. He
travels the world sharing his passion for plants. I think
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there's work of the horticulture that anybody could ever get.
Ladies and gentlemen, the one, the only, doctor, Allen Apple Armitage.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Good morning, Good morning, my friend. How are you this morning?
It sounds like you're in fine.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I am doing great. Have you had any apples yet
this morning?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
That's it. I I'm trying to do this low carb
thing because you know, I want the heck, just one
more challenge and my apple turnovers. An apple scruddle doesn't
really quite on my menu. However, that will change soon
because you can only you can only stay away from
that stuff for so long.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
I mean, apples are good for you. Come on, even
though they're deep deep fried or whatever they may be.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
No, believe me, I am ready to get it. In
fact right now, it's it's it's I don't know where
you are, which your temperature is there you are, but
good grief, it was in the thirties last night here,
so I'm sure it was pretty chilly there as well.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yeah, we had a freeze morning until nine o'clock this morning,
so we've been going through that for the last several months.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Now. Oh winter, it just doesn't want to go away.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
It'll break. I don't know if you had doctor Armidy's
I don't know if you heard the news or not
before we came to you, but they said fifty two
percent of all people sing in the shower. Would that be?
Are you in that percentage?
Speaker 2 (02:26):
No, I just I listened to that just before we
came on, or I don't know, and now I know
I don't listen to the news. But the fact the
fact I didn't even know what that song was, I not.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
But yeah, Dan, our producer, I both look atach other said, no,
I wouldn't sing that in the shower.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I sing at this hour, that door better be firmly closed,
that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Fuck, it's good fun to sing. But as soon as
I start singing, my wife just closed with a door
and that's it.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
So how about when you're out in the garden do
you play music out there and you're in your gardener singing?
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Sometimes I do. Actually, you know, the garden is actually
beautiful here. We're we're obviously a little ahead of you,
and I've got some spectacular things I'm looking at right now.
You can hear the bergs in the distance, and so yeah,
I know, I I hum my sing if people say, gee,
you must work a lot in the garden, and I
guess I do. But you know, if you like what
(03:20):
you do, it's really not work.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Is it.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
No, it's not. Talking with doctor Alan Armitage. His website
is Alan armitage dot net if you're interested in any
of his books, signing up for his podcasts, and of course,
the absolute best gardening app that's out there that's available
for you it is Armitage is Great Garden Plants by
Alan Army's back Pocket Gardening. Uh just absolutely outstanding. And
you know, I was watching an interview with you the
(03:42):
other day with I think with Brian, and you were
talking about common sense questions and answers and things like that.
You know what the common sense answer is to all
of those all those questions, get doctor Armitage's app.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Oh there you go.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
I keep trying to tell people that, but you know
they look at me like I'm a little a little weird.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Well, I can't wait for you to say that. I
thought you were going to say, Well, you know, Brian,
the best answer for all of these common sense of
goal answer would be just get my gardening.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
At I mean, it actually has, it has, it's quite popular,
and it works well, and it's got pretty simple stuff
but also a little bit more in depth and for
sure every day things that you can find online. So yeah,
I'm very proud of it. It is great, and I
hope people do get it. You know, it costs as
much as a very very very bad Hamburger four ninety nine,
(04:36):
so and it's there for the rest of your the
rest of your gardening day, so you might as well.
Uh people, people seem to like it, and I seem
to do it, and I'm always working a darn thing,
so I'm getting tired of it. But it is, it is,
it is great. It's great to have.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
And of course you're doing the podcast and all that
as well. And again you've learned about what this is
at his website at Alan arm and he's done. Now
let's get started with looking at your garden. I was
looking in at the pictures the other day and I
noticed background the deciduous hollies that you have in flower
right that you haven't flower right.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Yeah, they you know, we the deciduous as alias are spectacular,
and you know they're natives. I say they're native. There's
native species and the hybridizers and the breeders have made
them more brilliant orange and more fib it is gold
and more fragrant, and uh certainly gosh, I mean right now,
they're they're they're they're flowering here and I can't get
(05:30):
enough of them. They tolerate just about every condition, sunshade,
they like, afternoon shade. But boy, oh boy, they are beautiful.
They are they are part of the wild garden. If
you and I hope Ron you're gonna get your bust
load of your listeners, then come see me here. But uh,
this is when you come in the gate. This is
what I call the wild garden because that's the first
thing you see.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
So do we have to we have to act wild
when we go in there, or.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
It says it says on the gate the secret Garden
admission one bottle of good wine. So I mean, once
you get that stuff olden, there's there's still stopping us.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
So so mad dog ripple that No, that stuff counts right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Look, get back a rug. No, No, it's a lovely place.
It's a small garden, but it yeah, it's just pretty
right now. And of course in the heat of July
comes home be clutters pretty, but it's certainly lovely now.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Well, I seriously on the on the azaleas, I mean,
that's one of the things that it seemed like when
I was much younger in this industry, we saw a
lot of those. Then it seemed to kind of go away.
That folks that lost lost the interest. But today there's
a lot of great new varieties back on the market
again that and again they're tough and durable, uh, consistent bloomers,
and the colors are spectacular.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Well, well, the other thing too. You know, they all
have native azalea stock in them. You know the Japanese
azaleas that are everywhere. And I don't know how many
azaleas you guys right up in Cincinnati area. But the
fact is they're everywhere here. They're beautiful, they're there, they're lovely.
They're easy to propagate and produce. But these these and
I'll call them deciduous as as a postonators because they're
(07:10):
definitely native ours. But boy, they they put many things
to shame.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
They already do they do?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
I hope they hope they're available at you at the
various outlets.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Oh, I mean, they're out there. It's just that a
lot of folks just don't know what they are.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, Allen, they're in flower. They're pretty hard to ignore.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
And it's like, what is that thing? There's no doubt
about it. Talk with doctor Allan Armitage. His website is
Alan Armonis dot net. Be sure and check it out.
And you just got back from a little trip out
to California little plant trials out there, any anything that
really impressed you while you're out there?
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Boy, oh boy, you know that this is the California
Spring Trials where you know, when you come down to it,
there's not a whole lot of plant breeders in the world,
ornamental plant breeders, So most of them get together along
the coast of California. So the people like myself and
the court people like you, the garden center people, the
(08:06):
box store people, the people are buying and displaying plants
for your consumers. Uh, they get to see what's going
to be new for the next year. And yeah, it's
it's a wonderful opportunity. And you know, so many of
these readers, you know, they really they're they're their main
dealer are the annuals, the portunities, the caliber coos, and
they're spectacular. But there are a lot of good new
(08:28):
perennials out there this year, and certainly one of the
groups of plants that is really being you know, hoisted
out there are the Dalias and the Bogonias. As far
as the annuals and as far as perennials, Boy, look
out for the digitalists that are coming down the road
by they're spectacular. Yeah, it's kind of cool. So well,
you know, from the point of view of the gardener,
(08:51):
digitalists are to me, just a no brainer. Whether they're
an annual or a BUI annual or a perennial. It
doesn't matter. You get your money's worth when you have
digitalis because give that spike look great cut flower, beautiful
colors and you know they just the kind of late
springy thing. They're they're beautiful and this and some of
the breeding I saw was for especially for the person
(09:12):
who were growing them. All the colors come off with once,
they don't need a vitalization period. It's really kind of
interesting and quite quite beautiful.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Talk with doctor Alan Armitage. Of course, his website again
is Alan Armitage dot net. We'll take a quick break,
we come back. Lots more questions for the doc. Here
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Speaker 1 (12:32):
Welcome back here in the garden with Ron Wilson's special
guest this morning, Doctor Allan Apple Armadage is in the house.
Actually he's in his own garden right now. Because you
can hear the birds in the background chirping away. He's
got his jacket on because it's a little cool out
there this morning. And no apple fritters so far this morning.
But I saw a picture of you with that new grille.
(12:54):
You didn't makes on your face.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah, well, you know, we're fortunate here. We can. I mean,
I gonna do a lot of barbecuing. There's not a
big barbecue person. But we got this gribble. So I
got my eggs, my bacon, and all my silly foods
that I enjoy eating. You put them on a gribble
right in the garden, so you know, the plants, the
plants can smell the good the good bacon cooking.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
The only thing I saw there was bacon. I didn't
see any eggs or anything else. That's that's okay with me.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Picture, I don't know. I don't know where that came from.
But uh no, you know, we're you know, I'm just
so fortunate. We you know, it's pretty place, a lovely,
lovely place to call home. And on a gribble, so
I mean, what else is there? Well?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Yeah, really, And you know, if if you're like me,
if the recipe calls for a pound of bacon, you
buy two, one for you and one for the recipe.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Isn't that amazing? A pound of bacon and it's gone
like in a day, I mean the day food now.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
A day, a day, a couple of hours, it's gone house.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Well, we're trying to we're trying to be somewhat polite here.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Uh, talking with doctor Alan armidage his website Alan Armidy's
dot net. Check out his podcast, check out his gardening
app is absolutely the best guarding app all the four
ninety nine and it's a it's available for you, updated
on a regular basis. Of course all his great books.
What are you going to do? A follow up on
the on the story about the plant names?
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Well, you know that's that's interesting, this book of Naked
Ladies and Forgetting Me nots How plants get their common names.
There's been the tistum and you've you've been very very
kind Ron in letting people know about it. And it's
just it's a storybook and people love stories. So that's
what this podcast is about. Ron. You know, I'm an
old guy. What am I doing a podcast? You know,
(14:46):
like you said when we first talked this, morey some
some very very popular song in the shower. I've everyone
heard of. So here I am doing a podcast, but uh,
it's it's really I'm just telling stories. If you happen
to tune into the podcast, or of Joe Pie or
the story of you know what a dog would has
to do with dogs, or a fox one has to
do with foxes. So that's kind of stuff I enjoy sharing.
(15:09):
And that's that's so there's always stories coming out there.
I don't know if I'll do another book, but I
do find other stories to share that.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Works, that works, and I like I like what I
like the thing about these that that they are short
and sweet.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
They are they are that, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Talk and all the all the great plants. Quick question
for you when you were at those plant trials, you know,
as you're looking at the plant readers and obviously you've
you've been a plant reader for most of your career
as well, and have developed many new plants along the way,
are you I mean, are they reading more for foliage colors,
(15:45):
anymore for flower for maintenance? Or they do you see
native plants coming into the the native art coming into
that fold a lot more now, any any kind of
a trend there, I mean, that's that you're seeing.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Well, you know when you when you're looking at these companies,
now these are and you you know these companies, the
Balls and Syngentas and all these people that are breeding
ornamental plants. They're a big deal. Of course, is you
know color, it's always color, maybe like Bogonia foliage colors
out there for sure. I mean they're those kind of
(16:18):
wreck type pogonias, right, they're they're, they're, they're they're really
become popular. But the flowers and and uh natives, yeah,
because there's just not a whole lot of perennial breeders
in the nabor flower breeding category. When I say that
a lot, we have a bunch in this country and
(16:38):
we always were not running out of perennial and believe me,
but uh, you know the yeah, the trend is to
market the plant to you the garden center or to
the landscaper, and marking the plant means let's come up
with something's going to catch the eye. So all of
the above, and you know, sometimes we just I don't
know how many more petunias or tallibricola one can stand,
(17:00):
but those are still out there in stages.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
How about hydrangees, Oh I started, oh my godness, I
like pushing that button.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
There aren't as many of this year, thank goodness. But
some of they're really cool uh uh perennial stuff. There's
some you know, kind of new digitalist that that I
just mentioned quickly. And there's been uh. And there's new
you know Brunera that that false forget me not. There's
new hostage uh. And I tell you what I'm really
(17:32):
excited about. I don't know if you guys be able
to do in Cincinnati. I hope you try it. Are
some of the new garden ulster arias. You know, the
ulster aria has been a cut flower from Holland forever,
but the garden us arias the kind of zone something
trying to get into six. You know, they're they're they're
new and people don't know them. But I'm excited about that.
(17:55):
I think that's gonna be fun if we can get
those out there.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Some of the ones we've looked at did did say
six on the on the description anyway, So yeah, we're
going to try to experiment with them a little bit
and see what I hope you And.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Of course, my my all time favorite is still the
new Hellibores that will be coming out Oh my god boy,
this is Hellibor city right here. I want to tell
you that they are. It's amazing what's going on there.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
You know you brought up bruner or brunera, and you
know there's a there's a plant, this a shade plant
that you know, folks just don't know about. I mean,
it's again, that's one that we just got to get
the word out there more. Especially you know, if the
deer eating your hostas and you're looking for something else
in that shade right there you go.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
I mean, no, I don't mean to chuck the little
deer because they are huge problem. They're just and again,
so ron I think I need your help to to
to read my new uh the new book that I'm
working on called Common Sense Gardening, And one of them
is what do I do about deer? And so it's
it's really really a tough situation. But you're right, choose plants.
(19:00):
Hopefully you can't choose some plants the deer aren't going
to go after unless they're starving to death. And something
like brunna or false forget me not, it's five rus
in the shade. It's colorful in the shade. It also
is is something that if you happen to have a
moist area, it does very very well there as well.
So I thought that's a cool plant.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Absolutely yeah, and great selections that are out there today.
You're absolutely right talking with doctor Allan Armitage again Alan
Armony's dot. That is the website, one last one before
we go here. You know, the the plant breeding that's
going on out there now with the glowing in the
dark plants, that firefly platunia. What's your thoughts?
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Have you got some yet? You know? So for your listeners,
it's a it's a platuna that literally glows in the dark. Okay,
but and I say it, but I went in one
hundred percent skeptical to come on, and I came out,
you know, maybe eighty percent skeptical. But it does. It's
it's really an interesting break, I guess I only call
(19:58):
it break to a really interesting in and breeding. They
have this bioluminescence gen So the little flower buds of
all the petunias in this particular one tend to glow.
But it has to be pitch black raw, and it
has to be really dark. I'm not sure that even
moon might be too bright. But I have some in
the garden here, So I'm going to get up at
(20:19):
two o'clock in the morning and see if I can
see them, or just it's fun to talk about.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Or just stay doctor Allan Armony's always a pleasure Again
his website, Alan armonist Net. I'm sure we will talk
to you more as we go through the spring season, sir.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
I can't wait. Thanks a lot, everybody, all the.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Best, Take care, doctor Alan Armitage. Right here in the
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Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson and
are you a plant parent? You know where you got
all those houseplants? I mean think about it. You know
today the houseplants are just I don't know, they're high.
I mean it's crazy. Everybody's got houseplants. So you're a
houseplant parent. Well, you know, if you've got all these
houseplants out there and your houseplant parent, have you thought
about possibly being a houseplant grandparent? I guess you would
(23:09):
call it that when you start propagating your own houseplants
from the houseplants that you already have. Well, I'll tell
you what if you're not sure how to do it,
I have in my hand the ultimate guide. It's called
The Ultimate Guide to Houseplant Propagation by Lindsey Sisty. And
guess what Lindsay is with us this morning?
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Good morning, Good morning. How are you?
Speaker 1 (23:30):
I am great, Thanks for getting up so early and
talking with us this morning. Have you had your coffee already?
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Tea? Yes, tea?
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Is it green?
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Tea? Earl Gray? Great?
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Gray, got it?
Speaker 2 (23:41):
All right.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
We are having a discussion about teas earlier. All right,
talking about houseplant propagation, and of course, houseplants, Lindsay, are
as you well know, a hot, hot, hot right now.
I mean back to my college days in the seventies,
they were hot and they kind of disappeared. And today, wow,
crazy stuff. You've taken it to the next step and
(24:03):
you are now showing folks how to propagate those houseplants.
Tell me a little bit about why you got into
propagation of houseplants.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Yes, well, I am sort of the offspring of two
people who were into the seventies houseplant craize in their
college years, and so my parents both had all the
spider plants and the rubber trees from when they were
in college and they were, you know, just so or
(24:36):
after college maybe, and they were just so into plants.
And I always wanted to have a huge collection like
them growing up, and I just simply could not pack
it like they could. I did not have that natural
green thumb when I was younger like them, and so
I had to study and read books, and I bought
(24:58):
every houseplant book that I could as a kid. I
was just so determined to have this big, jungle like
environment that my father created for us as kids, and
I eventually had enough knowledge that it surpassed my parents,
and I guess you could say it kind of became
like a super hobby for me. And here I am
(25:19):
now writing a book about or I wrote a book
about how to create more of them, because I eventually
ended up with so many plants that I could keep
alive that when you have so many plants to keep alive,
you run out of space. Do you have to take
cuttings of them to keep them of a reasonable size,
(25:39):
and then you have to do something with all of
these cuttings, and you can't just throw them away. These
are beautiful plants, and well, if you want to gift
them to people, they'll say, well, how do I root them?
And you know, it's much easier to give people a
rooted plant or help people root them. And so I
found myself constantly explaining, well, this is what you do,
this is what you do. I would write it down
(26:01):
for people, and so it's just much more natural to
then start writing a book about this. And I started
writing a blog about it, and eventually I got a
book opportunity on how to do it. It just came
naturally as a result of building a jungle to create
a how to guide on how to create babies manage
(26:22):
a jungle.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
I thought you were going to say when I hand
out Now, when I hand out cuttings to somebody, I
hadn't buy my book.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
I actually do, but I totally because I don't want
to say, you know, I'm not trying to do that.
You know, I'm not trying to you know, sell my
book each time. But I do say, you know, well,
if you do need more information on it, because now
it is conveniently, you know, people will when they buy
things from me, They're always asking, well, oh, how do
(26:49):
I root this? And and how do I, you know,
root the monstero? Or how do I make babies out
of my allocation? And it is all there in my
book now and it really helps me out because I
don't have to answer every single question with pictures. And
so I said, well, it's on page twenty and it's
on page thirty, and I'm not meaning to sell my book.
(27:10):
It's just much more convenient. And you know, as as
I mentioned last time when we spoke, I'm bad at
self promotion, so I don't say buy my book, but
I'm like, well, if you would like, I do have.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
A book, yeah, and I'll sign it for you too,
right right talking with Lindsay Sisty. And the name of
the book is called the Ultimate Guide to Houseplant Propagation.
As a matter of fact, All theplant Babies dot Com
is your website. Be sure and check it out. And
you actually sell a lot of the plants that you
propagate through that as well. And just so folks know,
(27:47):
you actually have developed some of your own plants that
you do you have actually have a patent on the plants.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Yes, yes, I have one patent on a new species
of Allocacia called Alocasia green unicorn. It's a combination of
Alokeisha as lanii as a mother plant with Alokesia beginda
dragon scale. So some people listening might be familiar with
the dragon scale and as lannie I. I spread them
(28:17):
together to make this beautiful little baby, and I patented
it and now it can It's being mass produced by
tissue culture companies and can be found in plant stores
all around the world. So that was a really interesting
endeavor and cool endeavor for me because typically I will
propagate plants and just sell them in my shop. But
(28:38):
by patenting it this plant, I was able to then
get it mass produced and now you can find it
in places like home depot or plant shops in Netherlands.
So that was kind of a cool way to take
one of my creations internationally.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Absolutely, we're talking with Lindsay Sisty. The name of her book,
of course is they Ultimately the Houseplant Propagation. Her website
all theplant Babies dot com. You know what, I guess
the bottom line here is and I love it. By
the way, the in loving memory of all the houseplants
I unintentionally killed when first starting out. I hope this
book about creating more plants makes up for it. I
love the sheets of humor throughout the entire book. But
(29:19):
as folks, you know, we're looking at this. You know,
it is a risky thing to take cuttings and try
to get them to root in and continue on. I mean,
that's it's a bit of a risk there, and it's
kind of scary sometimes.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Yes, definitely. You know, every time I go to take
a cutting, especially of a plant that I love, or
at least when I first started off, I you know,
would hold my breath and uh, you know, I'm not
a very religious person, but i'd say no prayer that
I that I hope that the plant makes it. But
(29:53):
there are methods that kind of reduce that risk. There's
a there's a method that I described in the book
called air layering that works really well for some of
your house plants, especially something like a big monstera deliciosa,
which a lot of people have, the Swiss cheese plant,
(30:14):
or a big trailing philodendron, anything that has a long
winding branch or stem with big nodes. You can take
say a little baggy or saran wrap and fill it
with damp sphagnum moss and put it over. And people
who have outside gardeners who have maybe listening, have done
(30:39):
this before an air layer and you simply put the
sphagnum mos or a wet substrate on top of the
node with some serann wrap. You wrap it airtight and
you leave it there for a few weeks to a
month or two and allow the roots to grow before
you take the cutting. And this way there's really there's
no harm to the plant, not gonna rop the PMP,
(31:01):
and if it roots, then great, then you take the cutting.
If it doesn't, then maybe that note is just you know,
not going to take and you can just remove the
baggie in the substrate and there you go. So it's
kind of like a try it before you buy it technique.
And I describe this with pictures and detail in my book,
(31:22):
so as you would say, so buy my book and
I'll sign it. I'm getting better at there you go.
But yes, air layering is an excellent try it before
you buy it is what I like to say, technique
of propagation, because you're not taking that cutting first.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Yeah, And I think the thing about that, to you know,
I always get the calls about I got this rubber
tree that's way overgrown or whatever, and you know what
do I do? And the thing that is if they
get that thing to root, and most of the time
it will. When you cut that off a lot of times,
that's a nice way to prove it. And next thing
you know, you've got lower branches coming out, and you
know you just started it all over again. So you
rejuvenated it and got a new planet at the same time.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Yes, yes, that's the best part that sometimes you'll get
multiple branches, yeah on the bottom.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
Yeah, so before absolutely the name of the book is
called the Ultimate Guide the Houseplant Propagation, And I tell
you what is absolutely the pictures just alone, I mean
walk you through the entire process. But the way you've
written it, you make it very You feel comfortable by
the time you finished reading this book about giving this
(32:27):
a shot, even though it's a bit of a risk,
but you feel very comfortable. We did a very very
nice job, I have to say for this one. I've
recommended that several people so far and they have bought
it and loved it, and I highly recommend to our
listeners as well. Let's take a quick break, we come back.
I've got a lot more questions for Lindsay our again.
Her website is allthplant Babies dot com. The name of
(32:47):
the book, The Ultimate Guide the Houseplant Propagation. Lindsay sisty
with us this morning here in the garden with Ron Wilson.
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the garden with Ron Wilson our book today. And if
you want to have fun with your houseplants, this is
the book that you need. Is called The Ultimate Guide
the Houseplant Propagation. It's written by Lindsay Cisti. Her website
is allthplant babies dot com. It's a it's a fun read,
great illustrations, lots of humor throughout this entire thing. As
a matter of fact, if you don't know your nodes,
(35:26):
you'll know your nodes after you read this book. And
why it's important to know your nodes.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Is true.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Uh, you know what. It's one thing I did learn
on that page when I was reading the book the
first time was and I wasn't aware of this about
the blind cutting. I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
That's that's fantastic.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Yeah, if you take a cutting of certain plants leave
and are the petiole, which is a little piece of
stem that's attached to the leaf, you can root it,
but it will be this completely useless. So if you
take a cutting of a rubber tree leaf with a
(36:12):
little petiole attached, it will root and look beautiful and
have tons of you know, roots attached to it, and
it will never grow into anything.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
So is that all it does?
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Yeah, that's all it does. It just looks like a
leaf with a little bit of stem and a lot
of roots and never turns into a plant because it
has no stem tissue attached.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
So when I so that's why I need to know
my nodes so I know when I'm doing is propagating.
So when I see that, I think it's a succulent
that looks like a heart. Yeah, is that what that is?
Speaker 3 (36:45):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, that's so that's interesting because and that's why.
So okay, so this is confusing. That's a very good
question that you bring up. So succulent are a bit
different because succulents do root from the leaves. They have
(37:07):
to without getting too scientific on the air, but tissue
that is totipotent, which means this, well, here I go
getting too scientific. But it has cell It has cells
on the leaf itself that are able to turn into
leaves and stems and all that good stuff into a
(37:28):
whole plant. So succulent do have those special stems on
their individual leaves that will turn into a plant. However,
tropical plants, most of them do not have that ability
to just turn into a whole tropical plant from the
(37:51):
base of their leaves. If you cut the leaf off
and just try to root it from that leaf. And
so that heart that you're thinking of, that you see,
the Valentine's Day heart that you'll see, you know, sold
on February fourteenth, that chunky little heart is a hooya,
which is not It's a succulent. Yeah, it's a succulent
(38:12):
like tropical plant. And what people or nursery scrupulous nursery
men and women do is that they will cut the
base of a hoya leaf off and just stick it
in soil and sell that leaf. Now, if it was
a true succulent, it would have a better chance of
(38:36):
turning into a whole plant. But since it's a succulent
like tropical that is usually something that will just rot
and die, sadly, breaking many people's hearts on Valentine's Day.
How However, that being said, I did get one of
those that did turn into a full prant. And that
(39:00):
is because it's because it's me.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Because it's magic.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
No, no, no, I do not, Like I said, I
do not have a green thumb. I just work extra
extra hard and never give up. I really do not.
I happened to receive one that had a little bit
of stem tissue, like the base of the stem was
still attached to the cutting. So if the person cut
(39:29):
that petiole, which is the piece of little stem attached
to the leaf really low down and it had a
lot of stem tissue attached, then it has the chance
of growing into a full hoya heart. It's called hoya
carrie plant. So you can get lucky with those hearts.
(39:51):
They're not all a sham.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
There you go, and and see, we wouldn't have known that,
have we not had Lindsay Cissy on with us this morning.
And again the name of the book, The Ultimate Guide
to Houseplant Propagation, and if you want to learn more
about it, and I'm telling you this is a great read,
great illustrations, and you're gonna have a lot of fun.
And she does walk you through it and makes it
really simple for you. As far as being a plant propagator,
(40:13):
do you agree with me if I'm a plant houseplant parent,
if I started doing that, would be a houseplant grandkids, yes,
because those are my kids, so that would be the
grandkids in yes.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
And great grandkids. It's great.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
And that's a great way. You know, you got the
get you were gifted the houseplant from grandma or great
grandma or the Christmas cactus, well, you know, a great
way to take care of that is to set, you know,
propagate it. And of course if you're afraid to do
that because it was grandma's, this book will walk you
through that and you can hand that out and then
all the members of your family has a piece of
Grandma's Christmas cactters or whatever.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
It may be exactly. And it's actually a better way
of keeping that, you know, special plant, because you know,
God forbid, grandma's plants starts going downhill. I can't tell
you how many messages. That's actually the main way, the
main reason why people reach out to me is because
they inherited their grandparents special plant. I get message all
(41:11):
the time and they are afraid that they're going to
kill it. And one of the best ways to ensure
that you don't kill a plant is to make a
backup copy of it. So you take a cutting, and
then now you have two plants, and so if one
does go downhill, you have an extra copy. And I
(41:33):
always tell people about take a cutting, root the cutting,
have two of Grandma's plants, and then you have reassurance.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
And see she said, I get these emails because you
can actually get in touch with her and she'll help
you out as well. Of course, the book's going to
walk you through it as well. But she is also
available again on her website is allthplant Babies dot com.
The book is called the Ultimate Guide to Houseplant Propagation.
You know, I got about two minutes to go here.
One of the questions that always comes up when folks
are successful, like pothos, they put us some water or
(42:03):
spider plant their roots like crazy. When do I know
the transition from the water to the soil, when's the
best time to do that? And why can't I just
keep it in the water.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
Okay, well that's a great question. Well to adjust the
second part of that question first, is you technically can
keep it in the water. I mean, there are some
people and it's kind of been a big trend lately
as more and more people got into house plants and
started challenging the notion of like, well, why can I
keep it in soil? And so there's been a lot
(42:36):
of people on Instagram and YouTube and TikTok kind of
showing off their plants that like, hey, I've had this
in water for two years now and it's doing great.
And of course the water is not murky and algae
and doesn't look like a sea monster's growing in there
because these people are changing the water frequently and keeping
(42:58):
it fresh and looking clean. And so if you do
want to keep if you do want to keep a
plant in water, just change the water out frequently so
that it does look fresh. But when you are taking
cuttings and putting it in water, just wait until the
roots are one and a half to two inches long
and then transfer it to water. You should be just fine,
(43:21):
especially on a poto.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
There you go. That's the word from Lindsay Systey in
the name of her book, The Ultimate Guide the Houseplant Propagation.
Have fun with your houseplants and propagate. And I think
there's a follow up coming to this on the proper
Wine music to play in the background and the whole
nine yards while you're propagating your plants. That could be
part two. Lindsay Systey, always a pleasure. Good to having
you on. Great book.
Speaker 3 (43:44):
Thank you so much, thank you, all right, thank you, Ron,
all right.
Speaker 1 (43:47):
All the Plants Baby, All theplant Babies dot com. That's
your website. It's all happening here in the garden with
Run
Speaker 4 (43:52):
Wilson, help for the do it yourself gardener at one
eight hundred eight two three talk You're in the Garden
with Ron Wilson.
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