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Speaker 1 (00:33):
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lawn and garden. Ladies and gentlemen, let's welcome Rita Nader.
(01:14):
Hi conferve. Wow, great crowd in here this morning, Great crowd,
sit down, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Well, good morning. I didn't know that I was so
busy with all those titles that you have given me.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Oh I crossed out two thirds of them. Uh me.
So are we ready for Easter?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yes we do.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
We color eggs with natural.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Products, Yes we did. We did last week the kids
came up and we did tumor for yellow, so pretty,
and then the red and the yellow onion skins, and
you surely we do red cabbage, you know, and it
produces a beautiful teal blue egg. But this year I
did the butterfly blue pea powder and ah my goodness,
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it took just a few minutes and it's a beautiful
blue and of course natural. So yeah, we do that
every year, mister Wilson. My mom used to. She started
a tradition, but she only used onion skins because that's
what she has. Sure yeah, And the only the only
color I've not had a lot of success with is
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green because I've tried herbs and they sort of turned golden.
People have said like chickweed and all kinds of green matter,
but it never translates. So but anyway, other than that,
the beet juice turns it are pretty pinkish brown. So
it's really pretty different. And you know, making good use
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of our environment too well.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
And you're passing along a tradition which is I think
very very important. You know, you got it for your
mother and your pass along to you know, your kids
and their kids, and you know they'll all do this
someday with their kids and say, our crazy old grandma Cincey, right.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah, yeah, let's hope they do.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
She was crazy, but we all went over there and
still did our our boiled eggs to keep her happy.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
That's it. Not much. It doesn't take much. So this
Easter weekend, oh my goodness, it just seems like it's
coming up so quick, don't you say?
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Well, yeah, and you know it's late too, you know,
I mean last year was the end of March, so
it's three weeks later than last year. It always it
always comes up quick. There's so many things going on
in April's crazy. April is just a busy, busy month.
But I always like this weekend. I know you, I
don't know. You may not have been listening to show earlier.
Good Friday always has a lot of good memories for me.
And it's good good weekend just overall. Always like Easter weekend.
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Talk with Rita Hiken, founder website is about eating dot com.
We left your recipe on there this week for the
hot Cross buns in case anybody wants to give that
a shot for this weekend. And you know Tita's recipes.
You know it's easy and will taste great, but that's
on there for you. And of course her recipe for
this weekend, which is good for coming up for the
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Kentucky Derby or this weekend either way, is mint julips.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah, you know again, all of a sudden, April is
just about gone and then we have the Kentucky Derby
and that is when people you know, Mint is in
the forefront of Kentucky Derby because of the mint julips.
And I thought, well, let's just talk about mint this
week because I won't be talking to you next week,
so let's do it this week. And Mint such a
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beautiful favorite.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
You could be talking to us next week. Well that's
your choice.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Oh is that right?
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Uh huh? You picked the days?
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Oh geez, that is right. Okay, Well maybe we'll talk
next week too, but let's get through.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
This first, okay, all right, all right? So why why
is why was men jewlip such a big thing for
the Kentucky Derby.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Well, you know, I researched this. I hadn't really no
idea for quite a long time. I just knew that
they served ment julips as the Derby and what I
have found it has been promoted by Churchill Downs in
association with the Derby since nineteen thirty eight. And I
did not know that. But I remember last year you
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told me like over one hundred thousand jeulups are served
over the two day period of the Derby and the
Kentucky Oh, and I didn't know that either.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
I think it was a ton of ment leaves or
something like that or used during all that.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And the myth that you know, you
and I have debated this before when I do the
mid jule now didn't debate it, well, yeah, we did.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
No, we begged it. We begged it to differ.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
That right, Well, the traditional mint, as you know, one
of your favorites is spearmint for yes, the Derby, and
that's what you use. But I still like peppermint. But
you're right, it's spearmint and spearmint. We can we're going
to talk about the two different kinds of mints. But
the term julip is meant to define a sweet drink,
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sometimes a medicinal one.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
There you go, spelled julep j u l ep.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
That's right. So it's been made famous by the Kentucky Derby,
but something that you could certainly drink all during herb
season when the mint is abundant, which is just about
from now till the frost kills it dead. So just
one of those herbs it's easy to grow.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
I think it's interesting that you always seem to work
this in somewhere when you're describing so many of the
herbs that we talk about divines that are sweet drink
or sometimes a medicinal one.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Well, yeah, you know, I've always said there's not a
nerve on this planet that doesn't do your body good,
not only nutritionally ornamentally, but medicinally. And peppermint such a
good digestive herb. I mean, if you've got a high
fat meal, you have a cup of peppermint tea hot
or cold, it's gonna help, you know, settle your tummy.
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So really it's it's a wonderful herb as far as
the medicinal qualities, and most people love it because of
the flavor, and I don't know that they think of
the medicinal qualities. But peppermint tea, even if you buy
it in the store, one of the most popular herbal
teas around.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
And if you check out her recipes again on the
Ron Wilson Online dot com. She has both recipes for
mint julips and for mohito's.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Oh yeah, and you know mohito mint at Natures When
when and I'll be there I think next week, so
hopefully you'll be there too on a Saturday. But the
mohito mint is such a popular mint too. And again
people think, well, what is mohito mint? And it's actually
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like a cross breed from spearmint and apple mint. And
I didn't know that either, So trying to get all
this research and it goes great with citrus, and that's
why we make mojitos with lime and rum and the
mohito mint. Again, besides the Kentucky Colonel spearmint, one of
the first mints to that we you know, grow out
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of so to speak. We sell a whole lot of that.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
So if you want to do my version, you use
Kentucky Colonel Spearman. If you want to do Rita's version,
you would use peppermint. And of course bourbon is involved
here somewhere. Do you have a favorite bourbon or it's
just whatever you grab off the shelf.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Well, you know, it's funny that you asked me because
I've been testing out of course, bourbons, yes, and Wyoming whiskey.
I have tested that out and it's a sort of
a soft bourbon whiskey whisky. We like that. So the
last time I made Julips a few days ago, just testing.
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That's what I use. Sure, just basically, I don't you know,
it's whatever's on the shelf, and you know I use
it for terry bounce and all that whatever we've got.
So I can't say I particular. How about you.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Sholl out the bucks and do the angels envy? That's
what they know. They first developed angels in before the
female bourbon drinker. Of course now is popular with everybody's expensive,
but love to get you a bottle of that. I
think you would, You would enjoy that. I am. I
am a buffalo trace, I'm a gentleman jack. Those are
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probably my two favorite when it comes to the bourbon.
But I'm open, always open, good.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Yeah, Yeah, you've got to be open with that kind
of stuff.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
So what about grow Chris? Yeah, what about growing mint? Well,
we're going to talk about growing men and the different
types of mens that are out there, because there are
a bunch of them and can you keep it controlled? Well,
I know we're gonna find out when Rita Hikenfeld after
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Com talking yarding and talking herbs here in the garden
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with Ron Wilson, and of course that would be with
Rita Heikenfeld. Are you erbally experienced or website about eating
dot com? You know, I've enjoyed so far and I
always do having you on your show. You're You're greatest.
What we've always had you on. Everybody loves you. But
now that you know that we've been focusing on an
individual herb each time you're on here, I've also been,
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like you have. You send me a lot of information
that you find out about at researching, and I've been
doing the same thing on those. I learned so much
And there's so much in a name and the way
things are put together. Talking about the difference between spearmint
and peppermint, and you know you I like spearmant, you
like the peppermint. And the one that we sell the
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most of is Robert Mitt.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Oh yeah, Robert.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
I went online to find out why they called it
Robert Mitcham, and I did a lot of digging in
and there is really a Robert Mitcham mint. It's no,
it's called it's supposed to be Robert's mitch Ham mint.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Oh okay, And.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
It came from Yeah, it came from Mitchham, London, and
Mitchham peppermints are a particular type of peppermint that's grown
and there's different type, the black Mitchham mint, things like that,
and Roberts Mitchham came from a plant reading and they
were breeding all of these for to be verticilli and
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wilt resistant, and that's one it came up and it
did really well and grew really nicely, and it was
called Robert's Mitchham at c h a m not Mitcham.
So I don't now I can't figure out where the
where the jump came from because I can't find out
why that. But it's it's not Robert Mitcham, it's Robert Mitchham.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Well, probably because when you think of Robert Mitcham, you
think of the American actor. And so oftentimes names, whether
it's flowers or and you know this being in the business,
they sometimes get skewed up and changed a little bit
phonetically or you know, the dialect and just where you're
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from culture, So that's interesting to note. So it originally
is from England, and I think.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Well, Mitcham's yeah, and I think, and you know, and
I'm thinking, and I want to keep investigating this because
I'm thinking that if somebody came up with another selection here,
maybe they just kind of played off that and call
it Robert Mitcham. Because you go to any of the growers,
you know, all their catalogs and stuff, they all say
that Robert Mitcham, and I mean you do too. It's
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on our sign that way, and that's what I always
thought it well, but I never I couldn't forge out
why they named it after him, and it wasn't that
wasn't what it was at all. So it's mitch Ham.
Now we know the rest of the story.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
So we don't know if it's a different type of
mint or if it's just a phonetic error, but regardless,
it is a wonderful peppermint, really aggressive grower. And you know,
you and I have talked about this a lot as
far as in ground gardening versus container and I have
always agreed that mint is once a herb that does
good in containers.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Mint was meant to be grown in containers. Is that
what I heard you say?
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Yes? Because the root, you know, it dies out, looks
like it's died out over winter, and underneath the soil
those roots sometimes are like two feet long. I was
walking along our old country road a few days ago
and there's a ditch that's fed like by like an
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organic spring, and there's some watercress in there. So I'm thinking, oh,
this will be delicious. So I'm digging around and right
in the center there's a patch of peppermint right in
with the watercrest, mister Wilson, and so I'm pulling it up,
and I'm not kidding. The root is a foot long.
It just went on and on and on, so growing
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in the water. Yeah, yeah, right in the ditch with
the watercrest.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
You sent that picture of the watercress in the pots
and your chickens all standing around there, and I saw
the mint in there, and I thought, I thought you
stuck that in there because we were going to talk
about mint. And then I realized that in front of
that you had a little caption that said can you
find it in this batch of watercress. I thought you
just those in there.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Nope, I didn't. And you know, mint, I've always said
it will grow out of concrete. It does. Love. I
don't think you can ov water mint for sure, but
even if you put it in a container and say
in the herb garden, it has draina holes, the roots
will find their way out underneath or over the rims.
So yeah, it's a lovelier to keep away ants as well. Peppermint.
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I keep a pots of peppermint by the kitchen door
because it's repellent to ants. So again not only medicinally culinarily,
but you know, you can keep insects aways too, So
it's a useful plant.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Talking with Rito Hikenfelder website about eating dot com, there
are so many mints availables like basil. I mean, you
walk down ten tables of different types of mints. When
I look at the labels, you know, it's like apple
mint and chocolate mint and all these different ments. Do
they ask you taste like apples and chocolate and all that.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Well, you know, it's interesting you said that because the
apple miants sort of a fuzzy, rounded leaf and it's
got such a wonderful apple aroma, but I don't ever
get the apple flavor. It's just like chocolate mint, which
is the kid's favorite. Whenever I see kids at Natorp's
when I'm there, I'll give them a piece of chocolate
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min and they're so excited because the aroma is chocolate,
not so much not the flavor. Yeah. Yeah, because most
of these are hybrids between like peppermint, like chocolate mints,
peppermint and orange. And there's one called Doublemint, which is
really good. It reminds me of bubblegum, you know when
you think of doublemint, bubble gum. And I don't know
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which would be your favorite mint of the hybrids? Do
you have one?
Speaker 1 (19:21):
No?
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Yeah, there's so many to choose from.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
I really don't. I still, you know what, I still
like Kentucky's Colonel, just because of the foliage and the
way it's a nice one. I like the way it grows.
But I can't say that I have a favorite mint
of all of them. I still remember the men I
stole off of the tad table that you had decorated
with your mom's peppermint from way back when. Yes, that
had such a pungent flavor and aroma. That was phenomenal.
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I mean it was so strong. And you know what's
funny is I transplanted that out of our patio when
I expanded that and put it because it was growing everywhere,
and put it over on the edge of the woods
on the in front of a fence. It only lasted
about a year and a half and then it just
kind of went away. I think I think your mom
got mad at me for taking it out of the
patio area.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Well she was known. Yeah, you aren't cross Mary Nato,
that's for sure. Well that's funny because the spearmint is
a lot sweeter. Peppermint has a lot more mental I
think as far as the hybrids, I love ginger mint.
It's pretty and as variegated yellow and green color, got
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a little bit of a ginger flavor and aroma. So
lots of different mints, shoes from it all are good
for you.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Get out and check out with your local windipend of
garden center. Lots of menst choose from. And remember, as
Rita even said herself, mints were meant to be grown
in containers. Have a great Easter weekend. Say hi to
mister hickenfel for us.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
We will same to you all.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
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Rothis I madam, on a Monday, and my heart stood still.
Then to do ron Ron? There's your theme song right
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Speaker 4 (23:49):
Boom.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
So are you enjoying, mister ron Rothis good morning, sir
by the.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
Way, good morning, How are you good?
Speaker 1 (23:56):
All the ups and downs with the weathers that we've
been having.
Speaker 6 (23:58):
So far, it has been a roller toaster, hasn't it.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Well, it's been exciting for you I'm sure.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
That's one way to put it. I actually did account
went through the National Sewear Storm's fullcast Centers page about
a week ago and looked up the number of tornadoes
so far this year in Ohio, Kentucky, and Indiana combined,
and at that point it was ninety one already. Wow.
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Most of them were weaker tornadoes, but ninety one. So yes,
it's been I guess you'd all that exciting. And you know,
I've had twenty you know, several nights in the twenties.
I think I got down to about twenty five. One night,
noted that my yellow wood tree, the new growth actually froze,
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so it's going to have to push out a second
set of leaves.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (24:52):
Really, that and a little bit of all your damages.
About all that I've really seen so far?
Speaker 1 (24:57):
I have. I have experienced a couple Japanese maples that
had been leafing out and just froze right back.
Speaker 6 (25:07):
Yeah, And that surprised me a little bit because I
have a Japanese maple that's out pretty far and so
far I haven't really noticed any damage on it.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
That's why I say I've only had a couple. But
you know, it depends on where where they were planted,
where you were.
Speaker 6 (25:20):
But yeah, unfortunately, and I mean it was leafed out
at least somewhat leafed out when we hit when we
were down in the twenties a couple of nights, so
I'm surprised I didn't get any damage on it. But
it seems like it's okay. And yesterday I got up
my location to eighty two degrees. So we're off to
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the races with spring high temperatures like that, especially since
when you look into the future, at least in our area,
we don't have anything even close to freezing. It looks
like pretty mild weather for the next week.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
All right, Well, I was going to I was gonna
focus on that second. But let's focus on the weather first. Then,
you know, looking at right now is you know, it
gets really you know where everybody's chomping at the bit,
and obviously cool season crops can go in. Soil temperatures
are now consistently running in the upper forties and the
mid fifties, so we're good there. But you know, we
start looking at you know, there's a lot of tender
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annuals out there, and all as you look over the
next two or three weeks. And I know that the
way you keep up with the weather, or the old
frost free date thing. I always used to crack me
up because that used to be that percentage when it
was May fifteenth, was a fifty percent chance or less
that you would have a frost after that. And I
think now they look at that as a thirty percent
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And for our area, it's actually April thirties. What's backed
up like that? So as we look out over the
next two to three weeks, a lot of gardening going
on the end of April, first of May, what are
you seeing out there?
Speaker 6 (26:49):
Well through the first of May, it's looking like we're
going to be averaging much above normal, or at least
above normal over a good part of the country. Really
about the only area that's projected to be below normal
is the west coast and especially the you know, the
southwest coast, So good part of the country looks like
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it's gonna be warm. Now, of course that's a that's
an average. There could still be some spots that get
down chili some nights, but I would suspect those would
be pretty far north. I see very little chance of
any frost or freeze over over much of the country,
at least outside of the mountainous areas. Over the next
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couple of weeks and past that, it might get a
little bit cooler, but by then you're into the first
and second week of May. Still could air frost, so
I can't rule it out at some point, but at
least the next two weeks we're looking pretty warm.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Yeah, And I always remind people when they look at
that frost free date, you know that it's a percentage
that you're not going to get up. But there's always
up settings that could happen after that as well, So
you're still always taking a chance and you never know.
So you got to watch the weather. There's no doubt
about it, and it does happen, but you know, you
look over the last For us anyway, I think over
the last three or four years late frosts have been
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few and far between.
Speaker 6 (28:16):
In general, but that's true. I mean, the one that
always stands out to me, and I think it was
probably eight years ago, nine years ago something like that
was when we hit my location. I had twenty six
degrees on Mother's Day weekend. Yeah, And so I mean, yes,
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they're few and far between, but it still happens.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Oh absolutely. That's why I say that there's still always
that percentage out there. You have to take a look.
But it's based on averages obviously, just like our heartiness
zones and the averages for cold winter temperature and all
that stuff. But you know, you look back, as a
lot of folks are saying April thirtieth seriously, and if
you look back over the last three years, for sure,
we haven't had anything, from what I remember, any late frost,
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So you know, again, but there's that percentage, and you've
always got to keep an eye out for it. And
we always remind folks how important soil temperatures are along
with that when you're planting in the springtime as well.
Talking with Ron rothis here's our hobby meteorologist. His website
arbordoctor dot com. Be sharre and check it out all
kinds of great weather information as well as talking about
trees there too. I still remember on one time bringing
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some trucks in to load up plants, like on the
second or third week of May because it was supposed
to sleep that weekend. So you never know. That's why
you like weather so much.
Speaker 6 (29:40):
The drama of weather, the drama.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Of weather, says Ron rothas anything else as far as
an update before we take a break and then come
back and talk about trees.
Speaker 6 (29:49):
Just that it's going to be another really wet and
stormy weekend, but this time more in the center of
the country, up into say, say, the Mississippi Valley. The
planes up into say, Illinois, part of Indiana, but not
so much in the Cincinnati area. It might get a
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little bit, but more to the west this time. And
otherwise it's going to be a pretty warm eastern weekend
live for a good part of the eastern part of
the country.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
There you got it from a hobby meteorologist. Actually, he's
better than anybody I know, Ron Roths. His website again
is arbordoctor dot com. Quick break, we come back, we'll
find out what his favorite Easter candy is. We'll talk
about trees and what's going on out there. And you
know they created arbor Day as a job security for Ron.
We'll talk more about that as well. Here in the
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Speaker 1 (32:41):
We're talking trees and weather here in the garden with
Ron Wilson and Ron Roethis is with us this morning.
His website is arbordoctor dot com. Talking about the weather earlier.
Now we're gonna kind of refocus on trees. By the way,
Happy Arbor Day, which is next Friday.
Speaker 6 (32:58):
Gotta love Arbor Day. It's kind of forgotten. You know.
When I was growing up with they had a Charlie
Brown Arbor Day special every year, and that's kind of disappeared.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Over the years. Bro.
Speaker 6 (33:10):
I used to really enjoy that. I always remember Sally
making the comment Arbor Day, that's when all those ships
come sailing him to the arbor.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
H Me.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
I'm sure Nancy didn't like that. Hey, you know, did
I ever send you that commercial that they put together
here a long time ago? It was all the holidays
talking to each other. I forgot I need to send
that to you. Scott Stanley put it together and it's
talk Father's Day talking to all these and these other
holidays about no respect. And there was like, you know,
we all get, you know, even less respect than Arbor
(33:45):
Day and arbor Day says, hey, I'm sitting right here,
and he finishes out saying, yeah, you can even be
as worse as harbor Day. He says, I said, I'm
sitting right here, so I have to send that to you.
It's pretty funny commercial.
Speaker 6 (33:58):
Talking with Ron Roeth, you and I talked a lot
about how much we like trees, and you know, what
point trees to plant and things like that, and I think,
you know, with Arbor Day coming up, it's it's also
you know, it's amazing to me how many people don't
like trees and how many times I go through neighborhoods
and you know, they're just are any trees And it's like,
(34:20):
what are you people thinking? And I don't think people
really appreciate the benefits of trees. The you know, the
benefits to health, benefits to you know, both mental and
physical health, the benefits the property values. There's a huge
range of benefits trees, and many of the negatives that
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people have about trees. Now I have to rake leaves
things like that. It's like they really make a lot
more work for themselves than they need to because you
can mow the leaves right back into the lawn. You know,
if the trees prine properly when it's young, you're not
going to have as many breakage problems and things like that.
I mean, there's just so many ways, the easy ways
(35:05):
to make trees a real asset without it being a
major problem. But I think there's too many people when
they look at trees that think about trees and all
they think is the problems associated with them and not
the large numbers of benefits. And I think are as
a society we're really losing out because of some of
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the negative attitudes that have developed over the years.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Oh, I agree with you one hundred percent. And again,
you know you have to look at it, you know,
and you and I always if kid it. This has
been around there forever. You know, best time to plant
a tree, you know, whenever, And the second best time,
you know, was right twenty years ago, twenty five years ago.
Its second best time right now. And you know, you
know a lot of us have to start looking at it,
not only not for us, not for me, but for
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the future and for the future kids and the future
grandkids and whatever it may be in the future environment
planting trees now, because it takes a while for those
trees to be come you know, majorly beneficial. I mean,
they've got to get some size to them, et cetera,
et cetera. So you know how important that is to
get started now and keep planting, you know, as the
years go along. But you know it takes a while,
(36:11):
so you're planting it forward, but you got to keep
that in mind. But you're right. Every now and then
I do run across someone it's just like, no trees,
not gonna rake, not gonna put up with the roots,
not gonna you know whatever, And it's like, Okay, I
don't understand.
Speaker 6 (36:27):
Yeah, maybe I spend too much time on social media,
but I run across those people a lot. And it's troubling.
It's troubling for the future of our society that we
have so many people that think like that, because trees
are just so important to our overall quality of life
and to the environment, right, I mean, there's so many
(36:49):
negatives going on with the environment, and you know, having
trees and having healthy trees and having mature trees because
like you said, it takes a long time, and it
just really you know, not too long ago, I had
somebody I knew they said, well, we had this big
oak tree and it was dropping limbs and we just
(37:10):
got tired of it, so we cut it down. Well,
I mean, it's a big tree, and it takes and
I saw one study that said it takes two hundred
and fifty You know, smaller sized trees equal the environmental
benefits of one large mature tree. And if you plant
two hundred and fifty trees, they better all live. You're
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still not going to equal the benefits of that one big,
large tree, right, I mean, it's you can't. I mean,
the negatives when you cut down just one older tree
are huge. And as a society, we're cutting trees down
a lot faster than we're planting them, and you know,
we're falling behind. So you know, I think our Arbor Day,
(37:56):
you know, Earth Day is kind of a sister thing
that they've come up with at about the same time
as Arbor Day, and you know, it's just a time
for us to really sit back and reflect, what are
we doing to the earth, what are we doing to
our environment, and how is it the trees can really
(38:18):
turn things around their benefits, and they can and they do,
but we've got to change some of those negative attitudes.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Yeah, you know. I I've always said Arbor Day is
the Rodney Dangerfield of all the awareness days out there,
because it is you know, I don't get any you know,
I don't get any appreciation. I don't you know whatever,
because it is and it's unfortunate thing. Earth Day obviously
gets a lot more play. And I get it. It's okay.
I mean Earth Day is a great one too, bring
(38:47):
a lot of attention, especially to kids and all. But
you know, getting out there and planting. And I heard
a saying last year, and I mean have said this
to you because I always say, you know, plant get
out and plant a tree or two or three. And
I read something somebody's talking about, you know, let's not
just get out and plant trees, but let's get out
and grow trees. Because it's easy to plant a tree,
but now you got to grow a tree and make
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sure that it continues to grow. You know, what you're
doing is going to continue to grow.
Speaker 6 (39:12):
Yeah, that's something that we have a big problem with too,
is the idea that everybody wants to plant a tree,
and a lot of communities like to plant trees, but
then money is not put toward caring for those trees.
Once they're putting the ground, and it really isn't very beneficial.
Matter of fact, from a carbon standpoint, it's a negative
(39:35):
to go out and plant the tree and just let
it die because you end up with more resources being
put into producing that tree and planting that tree than
you ever get back if the tree doesn't last at
least ten years. So you know, putting resources into actually
caring for the trees we're putting in the ground is
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really important and in that vein. And I want to
touch on this real fast because you always ask me
what should we be doing this time of the year,
and there's a lot go ahead, see I'm getting out
of you. But there's a lot of research that shows
that the very best time to premature is in the
springtime because they are forming new rings, new tissue, and
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when you purnature in the springtime, the wound response seems
to be the best of any time of the year
with most species of trees, at least in temperate regions.
So this is a very good time to prinature. And
I bring that up because when we are planting trees,
you really want to look at what the structure of
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the tree is. We call that young tree training. I'm
going to a workshop next week in Indianapolis with Lindsay
Purcell and doctor ed Gilman on prescription tree pruning. And
the whole idea is, I mean, you don't have a
child and not do any disciplining or correcting until they
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reach fifteen or twenty years old. And you don't plant
a tree and ignore it for fifteen or twenty years.
What you want to do is kind of look at
the structure of the tree, pick out a branch that
kind of goes up through the canopy of the tree,
and kind of a best fit line from the standpoint
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or what want? What branch is really going to make
a central leader and you want really a one liter
tree with side branches coming off of that. And what
you do is you kind of look at the tree
and you decide one day how high up am I
going to want this tree branched? You know, am I
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going to want it limb up to you know, six
feet above the ground, eight feet above the ground. And
once you've made that decision, everything below that becomes a
temporary branch. You don't want to cut them off because
you know, not right away, because they're providing fetasynthetic inputs
to the tree. But you also don't want them growing
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vertically up into the canopy of the tree and taking
over part of the canopy because one day you're going
to want them out of there. So what you do
is you pick out that best fit you central leader,
and everything else you subordinate. If you have another branch
growing up that's competing with that central leader, you maybe
cut it back HAFA to a side branch that's growing outward,
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and you want everything kind of growing horizontal below that
point that you're eventually going to want a prone to.
But again, you keep most of those branches at least
in parts so they can provide fetasynthetic inputs while the
top of the tree starts to develop canoby and you
continue to train a central leader up through that tree.
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And if you do that, and there's some very good
videos on this, if you look up doctor ed Gillan
and tree pruning. A University of Florida has some some
really good information. I have some on my website's sake.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
We find it at arbordoctor dot com.
Speaker 6 (43:10):
Yes, okay, but uh, you know, this is a great
time of the year to do that, and it's really
important for the future of your trees.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
If the if and when the Easter bunny comes to
night to the Rotha's house, what are you hoping that
the Easter bunny will be bringing you.
Speaker 6 (43:25):
I've been working with the nutritionists for the past years,
so rather than candy proberfully dates dates are wonderful. You
put some the contises in the middle of them. It's
like pecani.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
You want to date, Yes, oh oh dates dates, Ron Daates,
got it, got it? Hey, Ron Roths. Happy Arbor Day
to your next Friday. Have a great Easter weekend, and
we appreciate all the information. Again, Ron Rothi's always a pleasure.
Same to you.
Speaker 6 (43:52):
Happy Eastern all right.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
Take care his website again arbordoctor dot com. Quick, great,
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(01:14):
Hi conferve. Wow, great crowd in here this morning, Great crowd,
sit down, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Well, good morning. I didn't know that I was so
busy with all those titles that you have given me.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Oh I crossed out two thirds of them. Uh me.
So are we ready for Easter?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yes we do.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
We color eggs with natural.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Products, Yes we did. We did last week the kids
came up and we did tumor for yellow, so pretty,
and then the red and the yellow onion skins, and
you surely we do red cabbage, you know, and it
produces a beautiful teal blue egg. But this year I
did the butterfly blue pea powder and ah my goodness,
(02:10):
it took just a few minutes and it's a beautiful
blue and of course natural. So yeah, we do that
every year, mister Wilson. My mom used to. She started
a tradition, but she only used onion skins because that's
what she has. Sure yeah, And the only the only
color I've not had a lot of success with is
(02:31):
green because I've tried herbs and they sort of turned golden.
People have said like chickweed and all kinds of green matter,
but it never translates. So but anyway, other than that,
the beet juice turns it are pretty pinkish brown. So
it's really pretty different. And you know, making good use
(02:52):
of our environment too well.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
And you're passing along a tradition which is I think
very very important. You know, you got it for your
mother and your pass along to you know, your kids
and their kids, and you know they'll all do this
someday with their kids and say, our crazy old grandma Cincey, right.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah, yeah, let's hope they do.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
She was crazy, but we all went over there and
still did our our boiled eggs to keep her happy.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
That's it. Not much. It doesn't take much. So this
Easter weekend, oh my goodness, it just seems like it's
coming up so quick, don't you say?
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Well, yeah, and you know it's late too, you know,
I mean last year was the end of March, so
it's three weeks later than last year. It always it
always comes up quick. There's so many things going on
in April's crazy. April is just a busy, busy month.
But I always like this weekend. I know you, I
don't know. You may not have been listening to show earlier.
Good Friday always has a lot of good memories for me.
And it's good good weekend just overall. Always like Easter weekend.
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Talk with Rita Hiken, founder website is about eating dot com.
We left your recipe on there this week for the
hot Cross buns in case anybody wants to give that
a shot for this weekend. And you know Tita's recipes.
You know it's easy and will taste great, but that's
on there for you. And of course her recipe for
this weekend, which is good for coming up for the
(04:14):
Kentucky Derby or this weekend either way, is mint julips.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah, you know again, all of a sudden, April is
just about gone and then we have the Kentucky Derby
and that is when people you know, Mint is in
the forefront of Kentucky Derby because of the mint julips.
And I thought, well, let's just talk about mint this
week because I won't be talking to you next week,
so let's do it this week. And Mint such a
(04:43):
beautiful favorite.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
You could be talking to us next week. Well that's
your choice.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Oh is that right?
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Uh huh? You picked the days?
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Oh geez, that is right. Okay, Well maybe we'll talk
next week too, but let's get through.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
This first, okay, all right, all right? So why why
is why was men jewlip such a big thing for
the Kentucky Derby.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Well, you know, I researched this. I hadn't really no
idea for quite a long time. I just knew that
they served ment julips as the Derby and what I
have found it has been promoted by Churchill Downs in
association with the Derby since nineteen thirty eight. And I
did not know that. But I remember last year you
(05:27):
told me like over one hundred thousand jeulups are served
over the two day period of the Derby and the
Kentucky Oh, and I didn't know that either.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
I think it was a ton of ment leaves or
something like that or used during all that.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And the myth that you know, you
and I have debated this before when I do the
mid jule now didn't debate it, well, yeah, we did.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
No, we begged it. We begged it to differ.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
That right, Well, the traditional mint, as you know, one
of your favorites is spearmint for yes, the Derby, and
that's what you use. But I still like peppermint. But
you're right, it's spearmint and spearmint. We can we're going
to talk about the two different kinds of mints. But
the term julip is meant to define a sweet drink,
(06:20):
sometimes a medicinal one.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
There you go, spelled julep j u l ep.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
That's right. So it's been made famous by the Kentucky Derby,
but something that you could certainly drink all during herb
season when the mint is abundant, which is just about
from now till the frost kills it dead. So just
one of those herbs it's easy to grow.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
I think it's interesting that you always seem to work
this in somewhere when you're describing so many of the
herbs that we talk about divines that are sweet drink
or sometimes a medicinal one.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Well, yeah, you know, I've always said there's not a
nerve on this planet that doesn't do your body good,
not only nutritionally ornamentally, but medicinally. And peppermint such a
good digestive herb. I mean, if you've got a high
fat meal, you have a cup of peppermint tea hot
or cold, it's gonna help, you know, settle your tummy.
(07:17):
So really it's it's a wonderful herb as far as
the medicinal qualities, and most people love it because of
the flavor, and I don't know that they think of
the medicinal qualities. But peppermint tea, even if you buy
it in the store, one of the most popular herbal
teas around.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
And if you check out her recipes again on the
Ron Wilson Online dot com. She has both recipes for
mint julips and for mohito's.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Oh yeah, and you know mohito mint at Natures When
when and I'll be there I think next week, so
hopefully you'll be there too on a Saturday. But the
mohito mint is such a popular mint too. And again
people think, well, what is mohito mint? And it's actually
(08:03):
like a cross breed from spearmint and apple mint. And
I didn't know that either, So trying to get all
this research and it goes great with citrus, and that's
why we make mojitos with lime and rum and the
mohito mint. Again, besides the Kentucky Colonel spearmint, one of
the first mints to that we you know, grow out
(08:27):
of so to speak. We sell a whole lot of that.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
So if you want to do my version, you use
Kentucky Colonel Spearman. If you want to do Rita's version,
you would use peppermint. And of course bourbon is involved
here somewhere. Do you have a favorite bourbon or it's
just whatever you grab off the shelf.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Well, you know, it's funny that you asked me because
I've been testing out of course, bourbons, yes, and Wyoming whiskey.
I have tested that out and it's a sort of
a soft bourbon whiskey whisky. We like that. So the
last time I made Julips a few days ago, just testing.
(09:05):
That's what I use. Sure, just basically, I don't you know,
it's whatever's on the shelf, and you know I use
it for terry bounce and all that whatever we've got.
So I can't say I particular. How about you.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Sholl out the bucks and do the angels envy? That's
what they know. They first developed angels in before the
female bourbon drinker. Of course now is popular with everybody's expensive,
but love to get you a bottle of that. I
think you would, You would enjoy that. I am. I
am a buffalo trace, I'm a gentleman jack. Those are
(09:38):
probably my two favorite when it comes to the bourbon.
But I'm open, always open, good.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Yeah, Yeah, you've got to be open with that kind
of stuff.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
So what about grow Chris? Yeah, what about growing mint? Well,
we're going to talk about growing men and the different
types of mens that are out there, because there are
a bunch of them and can you keep it controlled? Well,
I know we're gonna find out when Rita Hikenfeld after
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Com talking yarding and talking herbs here in the garden
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with Ron Wilson, and of course that would be with
Rita Heikenfeld. Are you erbally experienced or website about eating
dot com? You know, I've enjoyed so far and I
always do having you on your show. You're You're greatest.
What we've always had you on. Everybody loves you. But
now that you know that we've been focusing on an
individual herb each time you're on here, I've also been,
(13:37):
like you have. You send me a lot of information
that you find out about at researching, and I've been
doing the same thing on those. I learned so much
And there's so much in a name and the way
things are put together. Talking about the difference between spearmint
and peppermint, and you know you I like spearmant, you
like the peppermint. And the one that we sell the
(13:57):
most of is Robert Mitt.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Oh yeah, Robert.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
I went online to find out why they called it
Robert Mitcham, and I did a lot of digging in
and there is really a Robert Mitcham mint. It's no,
it's called it's supposed to be Robert's mitch Ham mint.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Oh okay, And.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
It came from Yeah, it came from Mitchham, London, and
Mitchham peppermints are a particular type of peppermint that's grown
and there's different type, the black Mitchham mint, things like that,
and Roberts Mitchham came from a plant reading and they
were breeding all of these for to be verticilli and
(14:48):
wilt resistant, and that's one it came up and it
did really well and grew really nicely, and it was
called Robert's Mitchham at c h a m not Mitcham.
So I don't now I can't figure out where the
where the jump came from because I can't find out
why that. But it's it's not Robert Mitcham, it's Robert Mitchham.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Well, probably because when you think of Robert Mitcham, you
think of the American actor. And so oftentimes names, whether
it's flowers or and you know this being in the business,
they sometimes get skewed up and changed a little bit
phonetically or you know, the dialect and just where you're
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from culture, So that's interesting to note. So it originally
is from England, and I think.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Well, Mitcham's yeah, and I think, and you know, and
I'm thinking, and I want to keep investigating this because
I'm thinking that if somebody came up with another selection here,
maybe they just kind of played off that and call
it Robert Mitcham. Because you go to any of the growers,
you know, all their catalogs and stuff, they all say
that Robert Mitcham, and I mean you do too. It's
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on our sign that way, and that's what I always
thought it well, but I never I couldn't forge out
why they named it after him, and it wasn't that
wasn't what it was at all. So it's mitch Ham.
Now we know the rest of the story.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
So we don't know if it's a different type of
mint or if it's just a phonetic error, but regardless,
it is a wonderful peppermint, really aggressive grower. And you know,
you and I have talked about this a lot as
far as in ground gardening versus container and I have
always agreed that mint is once a herb that does
good in containers.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Mint was meant to be grown in containers. Is that
what I heard you say?
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Yes? Because the root, you know, it dies out, looks
like it's died out over winter, and underneath the soil
those roots sometimes are like two feet long. I was
walking along our old country road a few days ago
and there's a ditch that's fed like by like an
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organic spring, and there's some watercress in there. So I'm thinking, oh,
this will be delicious. So I'm digging around and right
in the center there's a patch of peppermint right in
with the watercrest, mister Wilson, and so I'm pulling it up,
and I'm not kidding. The root is a foot long.
It just went on and on and on, so growing
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in the water. Yeah, yeah, right in the ditch with
the watercrest.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
You sent that picture of the watercress in the pots
and your chickens all standing around there, and I saw
the mint in there, and I thought, I thought you
stuck that in there because we were going to talk
about mint. And then I realized that in front of
that you had a little caption that said can you
find it in this batch of watercress. I thought you
just those in there.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Nope, I didn't. And you know, mint, I've always said
it will grow out of concrete. It does. Love. I
don't think you can ov water mint for sure, but
even if you put it in a container and say
in the herb garden, it has draina holes, the roots
will find their way out underneath or over the rims.
So yeah, it's a lovelier to keep away ants as well. Peppermint.
(18:06):
I keep a pots of peppermint by the kitchen door
because it's repellent to ants. So again not only medicinally culinarily,
but you know, you can keep insects aways too, So
it's a useful plant.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Talking with Rito Hikenfelder website about eating dot com, there
are so many mints availables like basil. I mean, you
walk down ten tables of different types of mints. When
I look at the labels, you know, it's like apple
mint and chocolate mint and all these different ments. Do
they ask you taste like apples and chocolate and all that.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Well, you know, it's interesting you said that because the
apple miants sort of a fuzzy, rounded leaf and it's
got such a wonderful apple aroma, but I don't ever
get the apple flavor. It's just like chocolate mint, which
is the kid's favorite. Whenever I see kids at Natorp's
when I'm there, I'll give them a piece of chocolate
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min and they're so excited because the aroma is chocolate,
not so much not the flavor. Yeah. Yeah, because most
of these are hybrids between like peppermint, like chocolate mints,
peppermint and orange. And there's one called Doublemint, which is
really good. It reminds me of bubblegum, you know when
you think of doublemint, bubble gum. And I don't know
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which would be your favorite mint of the hybrids? Do
you have one?
Speaker 1 (19:21):
No?
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Yeah, there's so many to choose from.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
I really don't. I still, you know what, I still
like Kentucky's Colonel, just because of the foliage and the
way it's a nice one. I like the way it grows.
But I can't say that I have a favorite mint
of all of them. I still remember the men I
stole off of the tad table that you had decorated
with your mom's peppermint from way back when. Yes, that
had such a pungent flavor and aroma. That was phenomenal.
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I mean it was so strong. And you know what's
funny is I transplanted that out of our patio when
I expanded that and put it because it was growing everywhere,
and put it over on the edge of the woods
on the in front of a fence. It only lasted
about a year and a half and then it just
kind of went away. I think I think your mom
got mad at me for taking it out of the
patio area.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Well she was known. Yeah, you aren't cross Mary Nato,
that's for sure. Well that's funny because the spearmint is
a lot sweeter. Peppermint has a lot more mental I
think as far as the hybrids, I love ginger mint.
It's pretty and as variegated yellow and green color, got
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a little bit of a ginger flavor and aroma. So
lots of different mints, shoes from it all are good
for you.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Get out and check out with your local windipend of
garden center. Lots of menst choose from. And remember, as
Rita even said herself, mints were meant to be grown
in containers. Have a great Easter weekend. Say hi to
mister hickenfel for us.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
We will same to you all.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
All right, take care green tom or not.
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time for weather. It's the weather as well as a
bifurcation of in the trees. Ronnie Rothis starring the true
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trees are good. Here's our registered consulting arbist is SA
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Rothis I madam, on a Monday, and my heart stood still.
Then to do ron Ron? There's your theme song right
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Speaker 4 (23:49):
Boom.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
So are you enjoying, mister ron Rothis good morning, sir
by the.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
Way, good morning, How are you good?
Speaker 1 (23:56):
All the ups and downs with the weathers that we've
been having.
Speaker 6 (23:58):
So far, it has been a roller toaster, hasn't it.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Well, it's been exciting for you I'm sure.
Speaker 6 (24:06):
That's one way to put it. I actually did account
went through the National Sewear Storm's fullcast Centers page about
a week ago and looked up the number of tornadoes
so far this year in Ohio, Kentucky, and Indiana combined,
and at that point it was ninety one already. Wow.
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Most of them were weaker tornadoes, but ninety one. So yes,
it's been I guess you'd all that exciting. And you know,
I've had twenty you know, several nights in the twenties.
I think I got down to about twenty five. One night,
noted that my yellow wood tree, the new growth actually froze,
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so it's going to have to push out a second
set of leaves.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (24:52):
Really, that and a little bit of all your damages.
About all that I've really seen so far?
Speaker 1 (24:57):
I have. I have experienced a couple Japanese maples that
had been leafing out and just froze right back.
Speaker 6 (25:07):
Yeah, And that surprised me a little bit because I
have a Japanese maple that's out pretty far and so
far I haven't really noticed any damage on it.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
That's why I say I've only had a couple. But
you know, it depends on where where they were planted,
where you were.
Speaker 6 (25:20):
But yeah, unfortunately, and I mean it was leafed out
at least somewhat leafed out when we hit when we
were down in the twenties a couple of nights, so
I'm surprised I didn't get any damage on it. But
it seems like it's okay. And yesterday I got up
my location to eighty two degrees. So we're off to
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the races with spring high temperatures like that, especially since
when you look into the future, at least in our area,
we don't have anything even close to freezing. It looks
like pretty mild weather for the next week.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
All right, Well, I was going to I was gonna
focus on that second. But let's focus on the weather first. Then,
you know, looking at right now is you know, it
gets really you know where everybody's chomping at the bit,
and obviously cool season crops can go in. Soil temperatures
are now consistently running in the upper forties and the
mid fifties, so we're good there. But you know, we
start looking at you know, there's a lot of tender
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annuals out there, and all as you look over the
next two or three weeks. And I know that the
way you keep up with the weather, or the old
frost free date thing. I always used to crack me
up because that used to be that percentage when it
was May fifteenth, was a fifty percent chance or less
that you would have a frost after that. And I
think now they look at that as a thirty percent
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And for our area, it's actually April thirties. What's backed
up like that? So as we look out over the
next two to three weeks, a lot of gardening going
on the end of April, first of May, what are
you seeing out there?
Speaker 6 (26:49):
Well through the first of May, it's looking like we're
going to be averaging much above normal, or at least
above normal over a good part of the country. Really
about the only area that's projected to be below normal
is the west coast and especially the you know, the
southwest coast, So good part of the country looks like
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it's gonna be warm. Now, of course that's a that's
an average. There could still be some spots that get
down chili some nights, but I would suspect those would
be pretty far north. I see very little chance of
any frost or freeze over over much of the country,
at least outside of the mountainous areas. Over the next
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couple of weeks and past that, it might get a
little bit cooler, but by then you're into the first
and second week of May. Still could air frost, so
I can't rule it out at some point, but at
least the next two weeks we're looking pretty warm.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Yeah, And I always remind people when they look at
that frost free date, you know that it's a percentage
that you're not going to get up. But there's always
up settings that could happen after that as well, So
you're still always taking a chance and you never know.
So you got to watch the weather. There's no doubt
about it, and it does happen, but you know, you
look over the last For us anyway, I think over
the last three or four years late frosts have been
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few and far between.
Speaker 6 (28:16):
In general, but that's true. I mean, the one that
always stands out to me, and I think it was
probably eight years ago, nine years ago something like that
was when we hit my location. I had twenty six
degrees on Mother's Day weekend. Yeah, And so I mean, yes,
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they're few and far between, but it still happens.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Oh absolutely. That's why I say that there's still always
that percentage out there. You have to take a look.
But it's based on averages obviously, just like our heartiness
zones and the averages for cold winter temperature and all
that stuff. But you know, you look back, as a
lot of folks are saying April thirtieth seriously, and if
you look back over the last three years, for sure,
we haven't had anything, from what I remember, any late frost,
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So you know, again, but there's that percentage, and you've
always got to keep an eye out for it. And
we always remind folks how important soil temperatures are along
with that when you're planting in the springtime as well.
Talking with Ron rothis here's our hobby meteorologist. His website
arbordoctor dot com. Be sharre and check it out all
kinds of great weather information as well as talking about
trees there too. I still remember on one time bringing
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some trucks in to load up plants, like on the
second or third week of May because it was supposed
to sleep that weekend. So you never know. That's why
you like weather so much.
Speaker 6 (29:40):
The drama of weather, the drama.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Of weather, says Ron rothas anything else as far as
an update before we take a break and then come
back and talk about trees.
Speaker 6 (29:49):
Just that it's going to be another really wet and
stormy weekend, but this time more in the center of
the country, up into say, say, the Mississippi Valley. The
planes up into say, Illinois, part of Indiana, but not
so much in the Cincinnati area. It might get a
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little bit, but more to the west this time. And
otherwise it's going to be a pretty warm eastern weekend
live for a good part of the eastern part of
the country.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
There you got it from a hobby meteorologist. Actually, he's
better than anybody I know, Ron Roths. His website again
is arbordoctor dot com. Quick break, we come back, we'll
find out what his favorite Easter candy is. We'll talk
about trees and what's going on out there. And you
know they created arbor Day as a job security for Ron.
We'll talk more about that as well. Here in the
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Speaker 1 (32:41):
We're talking trees and weather here in the garden with
Ron Wilson and Ron Roethis is with us this morning.
His website is arbordoctor dot com. Talking about the weather earlier.
Now we're gonna kind of refocus on trees. By the way,
Happy Arbor Day, which is next Friday.
Speaker 6 (32:58):
Gotta love Arbor Day. It's kind of forgotten. You know.
When I was growing up with they had a Charlie
Brown Arbor Day special every year, and that's kind of disappeared.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Over the years. Bro.
Speaker 6 (33:10):
I used to really enjoy that. I always remember Sally
making the comment Arbor Day, that's when all those ships
come sailing him to the arbor.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
H Me.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
I'm sure Nancy didn't like that. Hey, you know, did
I ever send you that commercial that they put together
here a long time ago? It was all the holidays
talking to each other. I forgot I need to send
that to you. Scott Stanley put it together and it's
talk Father's Day talking to all these and these other
holidays about no respect. And there was like, you know,
we all get, you know, even less respect than Arbor
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Day and arbor Day says, hey, I'm sitting right here,
and he finishes out saying, yeah, you can even be
as worse as harbor Day. He says, I said, I'm
sitting right here, so I have to send that to you.
It's pretty funny commercial.
Speaker 6 (33:58):
Talking with Ron Roeth, you and I talked a lot
about how much we like trees, and you know, what
point trees to plant and things like that, and I think,
you know, with Arbor Day coming up, it's it's also
you know, it's amazing to me how many people don't
like trees and how many times I go through neighborhoods
and you know, they're just are any trees And it's like,
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what are you people thinking? And I don't think people
really appreciate the benefits of trees. The you know, the
benefits to health, benefits to you know, both mental and
physical health, the benefits the property values. There's a huge
range of benefits trees, and many of the negatives that
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people have about trees. Now I have to rake leaves
things like that. It's like they really make a lot
more work for themselves than they need to because you
can mow the leaves right back into the lawn. You know,
if the trees prine properly when it's young, you're not
going to have as many breakage problems and things like that.
I mean, there's just so many ways, the easy ways
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to make trees a real asset without it being a
major problem. But I think there's too many people when
they look at trees that think about trees and all
they think is the problems associated with them and not
the large numbers of benefits. And I think are as
a society we're really losing out because of some of
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the negative attitudes that have developed over the years.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Oh, I agree with you one hundred percent. And again,
you know you have to look at it, you know,
and you and I always if kid it. This has
been around there forever. You know, best time to plant
a tree, you know, whenever, And the second best time,
you know, was right twenty years ago, twenty five years ago.
Its second best time right now. And you know, you
know a lot of us have to start looking at it,
not only not for us, not for me, but for
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the future and for the future kids and the future
grandkids and whatever it may be in the future environment
planting trees now, because it takes a while for those
trees to be come you know, majorly beneficial. I mean,
they've got to get some size to them, et cetera,
et cetera. So you know how important that is to
get started now and keep planting, you know, as the
years go along. But you know it takes a while,
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so you're planting it forward, but you got to keep
that in mind. But you're right. Every now and then
I do run across someone it's just like, no trees,
not gonna rake, not gonna put up with the roots,
not gonna you know whatever, And it's like, Okay, I
don't understand.
Speaker 6 (36:27):
Yeah, maybe I spend too much time on social media,
but I run across those people a lot. And it's troubling.
It's troubling for the future of our society that we
have so many people that think like that, because trees
are just so important to our overall quality of life
and to the environment, right, I mean, there's so many
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negatives going on with the environment, and you know, having
trees and having healthy trees and having mature trees because
like you said, it takes a long time, and it
just really you know, not too long ago, I had
somebody I knew they said, well, we had this big
oak tree and it was dropping limbs and we just
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got tired of it, so we cut it down. Well,
I mean, it's a big tree, and it takes and
I saw one study that said it takes two hundred
and fifty You know, smaller sized trees equal the environmental
benefits of one large mature tree. And if you plant
two hundred and fifty trees, they better all live. You're
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still not going to equal the benefits of that one big,
large tree, right, I mean, it's you can't. I mean,
the negatives when you cut down just one older tree
are huge. And as a society, we're cutting trees down
a lot faster than we're planting them, and you know,
we're falling behind. So you know, I think our Arbor Day,
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you know, Earth Day is kind of a sister thing
that they've come up with at about the same time
as Arbor Day, and you know, it's just a time
for us to really sit back and reflect, what are
we doing to the earth, what are we doing to
our environment, and how is it the trees can really
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turn things around their benefits, and they can and they do,
but we've got to change some of those negative attitudes.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Yeah, you know. I I've always said Arbor Day is
the Rodney Dangerfield of all the awareness days out there,
because it is you know, I don't get any you know,
I don't get any appreciation. I don't you know whatever,
because it is and it's unfortunate thing. Earth Day obviously
gets a lot more play. And I get it. It's okay.
I mean Earth Day is a great one too, bring
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a lot of attention, especially to kids and all. But
you know, getting out there and planting. And I heard
a saying last year, and I mean have said this
to you because I always say, you know, plant get
out and plant a tree or two or three. And
I read something somebody's talking about, you know, let's not
just get out and plant trees, but let's get out
and grow trees. Because it's easy to plant a tree,
but now you got to grow a tree and make
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sure that it continues to grow. You know, what you're
doing is going to continue to grow.
Speaker 6 (39:12):
Yeah, that's something that we have a big problem with too,
is the idea that everybody wants to plant a tree,
and a lot of communities like to plant trees, but
then money is not put toward caring for those trees.
Once they're putting the ground, and it really isn't very beneficial.
Matter of fact, from a carbon standpoint, it's a negative
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to go out and plant the tree and just let
it die because you end up with more resources being
put into producing that tree and planting that tree than
you ever get back if the tree doesn't last at
least ten years. So you know, putting resources into actually
caring for the trees we're putting in the ground is
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really important and in that vein. And I want to
touch on this real fast because you always ask me
what should we be doing this time of the year,
and there's a lot go ahead, see I'm getting out
of you. But there's a lot of research that shows
that the very best time to premature is in the
springtime because they are forming new rings, new tissue, and
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when you purnature in the springtime, the wound response seems
to be the best of any time of the year
with most species of trees, at least in temperate regions.
So this is a very good time to prinature. And
I bring that up because when we are planting trees,
you really want to look at what the structure of
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the tree is. We call that young tree training. I'm
going to a workshop next week in Indianapolis with Lindsay
Purcell and doctor ed Gilman on prescription tree pruning. And
the whole idea is, I mean, you don't have a
child and not do any disciplining or correcting until they
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reach fifteen or twenty years old. And you don't plant
a tree and ignore it for fifteen or twenty years.
What you want to do is kind of look at
the structure of the tree, pick out a branch that
kind of goes up through the canopy of the tree,
and kind of a best fit line from the standpoint
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or what want? What branch is really going to make
a central leader and you want really a one liter
tree with side branches coming off of that. And what
you do is you kind of look at the tree
and you decide one day how high up am I
going to want this tree branched? You know, am I
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going to want it limb up to you know, six
feet above the ground, eight feet above the ground. And
once you've made that decision, everything below that becomes a
temporary branch. You don't want to cut them off because
you know, not right away, because they're providing fetasynthetic inputs
to the tree. But you also don't want them growing
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vertically up into the canopy of the tree and taking
over part of the canopy because one day you're going
to want them out of there. So what you do
is you pick out that best fit you central leader,
and everything else you subordinate. If you have another branch
growing up that's competing with that central leader, you maybe
cut it back HAFA to a side branch that's growing outward,
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and you want everything kind of growing horizontal below that
point that you're eventually going to want a prone to.
But again, you keep most of those branches at least
in parts so they can provide fetasynthetic inputs while the
top of the tree starts to develop canoby and you
continue to train a central leader up through that tree.
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And if you do that, and there's some very good
videos on this, if you look up doctor ed Gillan
and tree pruning. A University of Florida has some some
really good information. I have some on my website's sake.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
We find it at arbordoctor dot com.
Speaker 6 (43:10):
Yes, okay, but uh, you know, this is a great
time of the year to do that, and it's really
important for the future of your trees.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
If the if and when the Easter bunny comes to
night to the Rotha's house, what are you hoping that
the Easter bunny will be bringing you.
Speaker 6 (43:25):
I've been working with the nutritionists for the past years,
so rather than candy proberfully dates dates are wonderful. You
put some the contises in the middle of them. It's
like pecani.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
You want to date, Yes, oh oh dates dates, Ron Daates,
got it, got it? Hey, Ron Roths. Happy Arbor Day
to your next Friday. Have a great Easter weekend, and
we appreciate all the information. Again, Ron Rothi's always a pleasure.
Same to you.
Speaker 6 (43:52):
Happy Eastern all right.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
Take care his website again arbordoctor dot com. Quick, great,
we come back. Guess what phone lines are all going
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