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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back here in the garden with Ron Wilson. It
is time for weather. It's the weather as well as
a bifurcation of in the trees Ronnie Rothis starring the
true seer of sears. He's the man who inspired to
saying trees are good. Here is our registered consulting arbist
is SA board Certified Master Arbist, an amateur meteorologist. His
website arbordoctor dot com. Ladies and gentlemen, the one, the
(00:23):
only Ronnie Rothis I madam on a Monday, and my
heart stood still to do Ron, to do, Ron Ron.
There's there's your theme song right there, the weather.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Boom.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
So are you enjoying, mister ron Rothis? Good morning, sir.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
By the way, good morning. Are you good?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
All the ups and downs with the weathers that we've
been having.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
So far, it has been a roller toaster, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Well, it's been exciting for you. I'm sure.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
That's one way to put it. I actually did account
went through the National Three Storms Fullcast Center's page about
a week ago and looked up the number of tornadoes
so far this year in Ohio, Kentucky, and Indiana combined,
and at that point it was ninety one already. Wow.
(01:25):
Most of them were weaker tornadoes, but ninety one. So yes,
it's been I guess you'd call that exciting. And you know,
I've had twenty you know, several nights in the twenties.
I think I got down to about twenty five. One night.
Noted that my yellow wood tree, the new growth actually froze,
(01:45):
so it's going to have to push out a second
set of leaves.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Really, that and a little bit of all your damages.
About all that I've really seen so far, I have.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
I have experienced a couple Japanese maples that had been
leafing out and just froze right back.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yeah, And that surprised me a little bit because I
have a Japanese maple that's out pretty far and so
far I haven't really noticed any damage on it.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
That's why I say I've only had a couple. But
you know, it depends on where where they were planted,
where you were.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
But yeah, unfortunately, and I mean it was leafed out
at least somewhat leafed out when we hit when we
were down in the twenties a couple of nights, so
I'm surprised I didn't get any damage on it, but
it seems like it's okay. And yesterday I got up
my location to eighty two degrees. So we're off to
(02:39):
the races with spring high temperatures like that, especially since
when you look into the future, at least in our area,
we don't have anything even close to freezing. It looks
like pretty mild weather for the next week.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
All right, Well, I was gonna I was gonna focus
on that second. But let's focus on the weather first.
Then that you know, looking at right now is you know,
it gets really you know, or everybody's chomping at the bit,
and obviously cool season crops can go in. Soil temperatures
are now consistently running in the upper forties, in the
mid fifties, so we're good there, but you know, we
start looking at you know, there's a lot of tender
(03:14):
annuals out there, and all as you look over the
next two or three weeks, and I know that the
way you keep up with the weather or the old
frost free date thing, I always used to crack me up,
because that used to be that percentage when it was
May fifteenth, was a fifty percent chance or less that
you would have a frost after that, and I think
now they look at that as a thirty percent, and
(03:34):
for our area it's actually April thirties. What's backed up
like that? So as we look out over the next
two to three weeks, a lot of gardening going on
the end of April, first of May, what are you
seeing out there?
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Well through the first of May, it's looking like we're
going to be averaging much above normal, or at least
above normal over a good part of the country. Really
about the only area that's projected to be below normal
is the west coast and especially the you know, the
southwest coast, So good part of the country looks like
(04:10):
it's gonna be warm. Now, of course that's a that's
an average. There could still be some spots that get
down chili some nights, but I would suspect those would
be pretty far north. I see very little chance of
any frost or freeze over over much of the country,
at least, you know, outside of the mountainous areas. Over
(04:31):
the next couple of weeks and past that, it might
get a little bit cooler, but by then you're into
the first and second week of May, still could air frost.
So I can't rule it out at some point, but
at least the next two weeks we're looking pretty warm.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yeah, And I always remind people when they look at
that frost free date, you know that it's a percentage
that you're not going to get it, but there's always
a percentage that they could have after that as well.
So you're still always taking a chance and you never know.
So you got to watch the weather. There's no doubt
about it, and it does happen, but you know, you
look over the last for us anyway over, I think
over the last three or four years, late frosts have
(05:12):
been few and far between.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
In general, but that's true. I mean the one that
always stands out to me, and I think it was
probably eight years ago, nine years ago something like that
was when we hit my location. I had twenty six
degrees on Mother's Day weekend. Yeah, And so I mean, yes,
(05:35):
they're few and far between, but it still happens.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Oh absolutely. That's why I say that there's still was
always that percentage out there. You have to take a look.
But it's based on averages obviously, just like our heartiness
zones and the averages for cold winter temperature and all
that stuff. But you know, you look back, because a
lot of folks are saying April thirtieth seriously, and if
you look back over the last three years, for sure,
we haven't had any from what I remember, any late frost,
(06:01):
so you know, again, but there's that percentage and you've
always got to keep an eye out for it. And
we always remind folks how important soil temperatures are along
with that when you're planting in the springtime. As well.
Talking with Ron rothis here's our hobby meteorologist. His website
Arbordoctor dot com. Be sharre and check it out. All
kinds of great weather information as well as talking about
trees there too. I still remember on one time bringing
(06:23):
some trucks in to load up plants, like on the
second or third week of May, because it was supposed
to sleep that weekend. So you never know. That's why
you like weather so much.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
The drama of weather.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
The drama of weather, says Ron rothis anything else as
far as an update before we take a break and
then come back and talk about trees, just that.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
It's going to be another really wet and stormy weekend,
but this time more in the center of the country.
Up into say, say, the Mississippi Valley, the plains up
into say Illinois, part of Indiana, but not so much
in the Cincinnati area. We might get a little bit,
(07:09):
but more to the west this time. And otherwise it's
going to be a pretty warm eastern weekend live a
good part of the eastern part of the country.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
There. You got it from a hobby meteorologist. Actually, he's
better than anybody I know. Ron Roths' website again is
arbordoctor dot com. Quick break, we come back, we'll find
out what his favorite Easter candy is. We'll talk about
trees and what's going on out there. And you know
they created Arbor Day as a job security for Ron.
We'll talk more about that as well. Here in the
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Speaker 1 (09:02):
We're talking trees and weather here in the garden with
Ron Wilson and Ron Rothis is with us this morning.
His website is Arbordoctor dot com. Talking about the weather earlier.
Now we're gonna kind of refocus on trees. By the way,
Happy Arbor Day, which is next Friday.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Gotta love Arbor Day. It's kind of forgotten. You know.
When I was growing up with they had a Charlie
Brown Arbor Day special every year, and that's kind of
disappeared over the years. Bro I used to really enjoy that.
I always remember Sally making the comment Arbor Day, that's
when all those ships come sailing into the arbor.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Oh me, I'm sure Nancy didn't like that. Hey, you know,
did I ever send you that commercial that they put
together here a long time ago? It was all the
holidays talking to each other. I forgot. I need to
send that to you. Scott Stanley put it together and
it's talk Father's Day talking to all these in these
other holidays about no respect. And there was like, you know,
(10:04):
we all get, you know, even less respect than Arbor Day,
and Arbor Day says hey, I'm sitting right here, and
he finishes out saying, yeah, you can even be as
worse as Harbor Day. He says, I said, I'm sitting
right here, So I'll have to send that to you.
It's a pretty funny commercial talking to Ron rothis.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Anyway, Well, you and I talked a lot about how
much we like trees, and you know what plant trees
to plant and things like that, and I think, you know,
with Arbor Day coming up, it's it's also you know,
it's amazing to me how many people don't like trees,
and how many times I go through neighborhoods and you know,
there just aren't any trees, and it's like, what are
(10:42):
you people thinking? And I don't think people really appreciate
the benefits of trees. The you know, the benefits to health,
the benefits to you know, both mental land physical health,
the benefits the property values. There's a huge range of
benefits trees. And many of the negatives that people have
(11:04):
about trees. And now I have to rake leaves things
like that, it's like they really make a lot more
work for themselves than they need to because you can
mow the leaves right back into the lawn. You know,
if the trees prine properly when it's young, you're not
going to have as many breakage problems and things like that.
I mean, there's just so many ways, easy ways to
(11:27):
make trees a real asset without it being a major problem.
But I think too, there's too many people when they
look at trees, that think about trees and all they
think is the problems associated with them are not the
large numbers of benefits. And I think are as a
society we're really losing out because of some of the
(11:49):
negative attitudes that have developed over the years.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Oh, I agree with you one hundred percent. And again,
you know you have to look at it, you know,
and you and I always if Kenny, this has been
around here forever. You know, best time to play in
a tree, you know, whenever, and the second best time
you know it was right yeah, twenty years ago, twenty
five years ago, it's second best time right now. And
you know, you know a lot of us have to
start looking at it, not only not for us, not
for me, but for the future and for the future
(12:14):
kids and the future grandkids and whatever it may be
in the future environment. Planting trees now, because it takes
a while for those trees to become you know, majorly beneficial.
I mean, they've got to get some size to them,
et cetera, et cetera. So you know how important that
is to get started now and keep planting. You know,
as the years go along, but you know, it takes
a while, so you're planting it forward. But you got
(12:35):
to keep that in mind. But you're right. Every now
and then I do run across someone it's just like,
no trees, not gonna rake, not gonna put up with
the roots, not gonna you know whatever, And it's like, Okay,
I don't understand.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Yeah, maybe I spend too much time on social media,
but I run across those people a lot. And it's troubling.
It's troubling for the future of our society that we
have so many people that think like that, because trees
are just so important to our overall quality of life
and to the environment. I mean, there's so many negatives
(13:11):
going on with the environment, and you know, having trees
and having healthy trees and having mature trees because like
you said, it takes a long time, and it just
really you know, not too long ago, I had somebody
I knew. They said, well, we had this big oak
tree and it was dropping limbs and we just got
(13:32):
tired of it, so we cut it down. Well, I mean,
it's a big tree, and it takes and I saw
one study that said it takes two hundred and fifty.
You know, smaller sized trees equal the environmental benefits of
one large mature tree, And if you plant two hundred
and fifty trees, they better all live. You're still not
(13:54):
going to equal the benefits of that one big, large tree, right,
I mean, it's you can't. I mean, the negatives when
you cut down just one older tree are huge. And
as a society, we're cutting trees down a lot faster
than we're planning them, and you know, we're falling behind. So,
(14:15):
you know, I think our Arbor Day, you know, Earth
Day is kind of a sister thing that they've come
up with at about the same time as Arbor Day,
and you know, it's just a time for us to
really sit back and reflect. But what are we doing
to the earth, What are we doing to our environment?
And how is it the trees can really turn things
(14:40):
around their benefit that and they can and they do,
but we've got to change some of those negative attitudes.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Yeah. You know, I've always said Arbor Day is the
Rodney Dangerfield of all the awareness days out there, because
it is you know, I don't get any you know,
I don't get any appreciation. I don't you know, whatever,
because it is, and it's unfortunate thing. Earth Day obviously
gets a lot more play, and I get it. It's okay.
I mean Earth Day is a great one too, bring
(15:08):
a lot of attention, especially to kids and all. But
get you know, getting out there and planting. And I
heard a saying last year, and I may have said
this to you because I always say, you know, plant,
get out and plant a tree or two or three.
And I read someone where somebody's talking about, you know,
let's not just get out and plant trees, but let's
get out and grow trees. Because it's easy to plant
a tree, but now you got to grow a tree
and make sure that it continues to grow. You know,
(15:30):
what you're doing is going to continue to grow.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Yeah, that's something that we have a big problem with too,
is the idea that everybody wants to plant a tree,
and a lot of communities like the plant trees, but
then money is not put toward caring for those trees
right once they're put in the ground, and it really
isn't very beneficial. Matter of fact, from a from a
(15:53):
carbon standpoint, it's a negative to go out and plant
the tree and just let it die because you end
up with more resources being put into producing that tree
and planting that tree than you ever get back if
the tree doesn't last at least ten years. So you know,
putting resources into actually caring for the trees we're putting
(16:15):
in the ground is really important and in that vein,
and I wanted to touch on this real fast because
you always ask me what should we be doing this
time of the year, and there's a lot go ahead,
see I'm getting out of you, but there's a lot
of research that shows that the very best time to
prienature is in the springtime because they are forming new rings,
(16:40):
new tissue, and when you purnature in the springtime, the
wound response seems to be the best of any time
of the year with most species of trees, at least
in temperate regions. So this is a very good time
to prienature. And I bring that up because when we
are planting trees, I really want to look at what
(17:03):
the structure of the tree is. We call that young
tree training. I'm going to a workshop next week in
Indianapolis with Lindsay Purcell and doctor ed Gilman on prescription
tree printing, and the whole idea is I mean you
don't have a child and not do any disciplining or
(17:25):
correcting until they reach fifteen or twenty years old. And
you don't plant a tree and ignore it for fifteen
or twenty years. What you want to do is kind
of look at the structure of the tree, pick out
a branch that kind of goes up through the canopy
of the tree, and kind of a best fit line
(17:46):
from the standpoint or what want? What branch is really
going to make a central leader and you want really
a one liter tree with side branches coming off of that.
And what you do is you kind of look at
the tree and you decide one day how high up
am I going to want this tree branched? You know,
(18:07):
am I going to want it limb up to you know,
six feet above the ground? Eight feet above the ground.
And once you've made that decision, everything below that becomes
a temporary branch. You don't want to cut them off
because you're not right away, because they're providing fhetosynthetic inputs
to the tree. But you also don't want them growing
(18:29):
vertically up into the canopy of the tree and taking
over part of the canopy because one day you're going
to want them out of there. So what you do
is you pick out that best fit you know, central leader,
and everything else you subordinate. If you have another branch
growing up that's competing with that central leader, you maybe
cut it back halfa to a side branch that's growing outward.
(18:53):
And you want everything kind of growing horizontal below that
point that you're eventually going to want to print. But
but again, you keep most of those branches at least
in part so they can provide phretosynthetic inputs while the
top of the tree starts to develop canopy and you
continue to train a central leader up through that tree.
(19:16):
And if you do that, and there's some very good
videos on this, if you look up doctor ed Gilan
and tree pruning a University of Florida has some really
good information. I have some on my.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Website adoctor dot com.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Yes, okay, but uh, you know, this is a great
time of the year to do that, and it's really
important for the future of the trees.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
If the if and when the Easter Bunny comes to
night to the Rotha's house, what are you hoping the
Easter bunny will be bringing you.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
I've been working with the nutritionists for the past years,
so rather than candy. Probably dates dates are wonderful. You
put some the contises in the middle of them. It's
like pecan pie.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
You want to date? Yes, oh oh date dates Ron
Day eight, got it? Got it? Hey, Ron roethis Happy
Arbor Day to you next Friday. Have a great Easter weekend,
and we appreciate all the information. Again, Ron roethis always
a pleasure.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Same to you. Happy Eastern All right.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Take care his website again at arbordoctor dot com. Quick, great,
we come back. Guess what phone lines are all going
to be open for you? Eight hundred eight two three
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garden with Ron.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Wilson, Landscaping ladiesier with your personal yard boy. He's in
the garden and he's Ron Wilson.
Welcome back here in the garden with Ron Wilson. It
is time for weather. It's the weather as well as
a bifurcation of in the trees Ronnie Rothis starring the
true seer of sears. He's the man who inspired to
saying trees are good. Here is our registered consulting arbist
is SA board Certified Master Arbist, an amateur meteorologist. His
website arbordoctor dot com. Ladies and gentlemen, the one, the
(00:23):
only Ronnie Rothis I madam on a Monday, and my
heart stood still to do Ron, to do, Ron Ron.
There's there's your theme song right there, the weather.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Boom.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
So are you enjoying, mister ron Rothis? Good morning, sir.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
By the way, good morning. Are you good?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
All the ups and downs with the weathers that we've
been having.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
So far, it has been a roller toaster, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Well, it's been exciting for you. I'm sure.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
That's one way to put it. I actually did account
went through the National Three Storms Fullcast Center's page about
a week ago and looked up the number of tornadoes
so far this year in Ohio, Kentucky, and Indiana combined,
and at that point it was ninety one already. Wow.
(01:25):
Most of them were weaker tornadoes, but ninety one. So yes,
it's been I guess you'd call that exciting. And you know,
I've had twenty you know, several nights in the twenties.
I think I got down to about twenty five. One night.
Noted that my yellow wood tree, the new growth actually froze,
(01:45):
so it's going to have to push out a second
set of leaves.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Really, that and a little bit of all your damages.
About all that I've really seen so far, I have.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
I have experienced a couple Japanese maples that had been
leafing out and just froze right back.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yeah, And that surprised me a little bit because I
have a Japanese maple that's out pretty far and so
far I haven't really noticed any damage on it.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
That's why I say I've only had a couple. But
you know, it depends on where where they were planted,
where you were.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
But yeah, unfortunately, and I mean it was leafed out
at least somewhat leafed out when we hit when we
were down in the twenties a couple of nights, so
I'm surprised I didn't get any damage on it, but
it seems like it's okay. And yesterday I got up
my location to eighty two degrees. So we're off to
(02:39):
the races with spring high temperatures like that, especially since
when you look into the future, at least in our area,
we don't have anything even close to freezing. It looks
like pretty mild weather for the next week.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
All right, Well, I was gonna I was gonna focus
on that second. But let's focus on the weather first.
Then that you know, looking at right now is you know,
it gets really you know, or everybody's chomping at the bit,
and obviously cool season crops can go in. Soil temperatures
are now consistently running in the upper forties, in the
mid fifties, so we're good there, but you know, we
start looking at you know, there's a lot of tender
(03:14):
annuals out there, and all as you look over the
next two or three weeks, and I know that the
way you keep up with the weather or the old
frost free date thing, I always used to crack me up,
because that used to be that percentage when it was
May fifteenth, was a fifty percent chance or less that
you would have a frost after that, and I think
now they look at that as a thirty percent, and
(03:34):
for our area it's actually April thirties. What's backed up
like that? So as we look out over the next
two to three weeks, a lot of gardening going on
the end of April, first of May, what are you
seeing out there?
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Well through the first of May, it's looking like we're
going to be averaging much above normal, or at least
above normal over a good part of the country. Really
about the only area that's projected to be below normal
is the west coast and especially the you know, the
southwest coast, So good part of the country looks like
(04:10):
it's gonna be warm. Now, of course that's a that's
an average. There could still be some spots that get
down chili some nights, but I would suspect those would
be pretty far north. I see very little chance of
any frost or freeze over over much of the country,
at least, you know, outside of the mountainous areas. Over
(04:31):
the next couple of weeks and past that, it might
get a little bit cooler, but by then you're into
the first and second week of May, still could air frost.
So I can't rule it out at some point, but
at least the next two weeks we're looking pretty warm.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yeah, And I always remind people when they look at
that frost free date, you know that it's a percentage
that you're not going to get it, but there's always
a percentage that they could have after that as well.
So you're still always taking a chance and you never know.
So you got to watch the weather. There's no doubt
about it, and it does happen, but you know, you
look over the last for us anyway over, I think
over the last three or four years, late frosts have
(05:12):
been few and far between.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
In general, but that's true. I mean the one that
always stands out to me, and I think it was
probably eight years ago, nine years ago something like that
was when we hit my location. I had twenty six
degrees on Mother's Day weekend. Yeah, And so I mean, yes,
(05:35):
they're few and far between, but it still happens.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Oh absolutely. That's why I say that there's still was
always that percentage out there. You have to take a look.
But it's based on averages obviously, just like our heartiness
zones and the averages for cold winter temperature and all
that stuff. But you know, you look back, because a
lot of folks are saying April thirtieth seriously, and if
you look back over the last three years, for sure,
we haven't had any from what I remember, any late frost,
(06:01):
so you know, again, but there's that percentage and you've
always got to keep an eye out for it. And
we always remind folks how important soil temperatures are along
with that when you're planting in the springtime. As well.
Talking with Ron rothis here's our hobby meteorologist. His website
Arbordoctor dot com. Be sharre and check it out. All
kinds of great weather information as well as talking about
trees there too. I still remember on one time bringing
(06:23):
some trucks in to load up plants, like on the
second or third week of May, because it was supposed
to sleep that weekend. So you never know. That's why
you like weather so much.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
The drama of weather.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
The drama of weather, says Ron rothis anything else as
far as an update before we take a break and
then come back and talk about trees, just that.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
It's going to be another really wet and stormy weekend,
but this time more in the center of the country.
Up into say, say, the Mississippi Valley, the plains up
into say Illinois, part of Indiana, but not so much
in the Cincinnati area. We might get a little bit,
(07:09):
but more to the west this time. And otherwise it's
going to be a pretty warm eastern weekend live a
good part of the eastern part of the country.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
There. You got it from a hobby meteorologist. Actually, he's
better than anybody I know. Ron Roths' website again is
arbordoctor dot com. Quick break, we come back, we'll find
out what his favorite Easter candy is. We'll talk about
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Speaker 1 (09:02):
We're talking trees and weather here in the garden with
Ron Wilson and Ron Rothis is with us this morning.
His website is Arbordoctor dot com. Talking about the weather earlier.
Now we're gonna kind of refocus on trees. By the way,
Happy Arbor Day, which is next Friday.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Gotta love Arbor Day. It's kind of forgotten. You know.
When I was growing up with they had a Charlie
Brown Arbor Day special every year, and that's kind of
disappeared over the years. Bro I used to really enjoy that.
I always remember Sally making the comment Arbor Day, that's
when all those ships come sailing into the arbor.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Oh me, I'm sure Nancy didn't like that. Hey, you know,
did I ever send you that commercial that they put
together here a long time ago? It was all the
holidays talking to each other. I forgot. I need to
send that to you. Scott Stanley put it together and
it's talk Father's Day talking to all these in these
other holidays about no respect. And there was like, you know,
(10:04):
we all get, you know, even less respect than Arbor Day,
and Arbor Day says hey, I'm sitting right here, and
he finishes out saying, yeah, you can even be as
worse as Harbor Day. He says, I said, I'm sitting
right here, So I'll have to send that to you.
It's a pretty funny commercial talking to Ron rothis.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Anyway, Well, you and I talked a lot about how
much we like trees, and you know what plant trees
to plant and things like that, and I think, you know,
with Arbor Day coming up, it's it's also you know,
it's amazing to me how many people don't like trees,
and how many times I go through neighborhoods and you know,
there just aren't any trees, and it's like, what are
(10:42):
you people thinking? And I don't think people really appreciate
the benefits of trees. The you know, the benefits to health,
the benefits to you know, both mental land physical health,
the benefits the property values. There's a huge range of
benefits trees. And many of the negatives that people have
(11:04):
about trees. And now I have to rake leaves things
like that, it's like they really make a lot more
work for themselves than they need to because you can
mow the leaves right back into the lawn. You know,
if the trees prine properly when it's young, you're not
going to have as many breakage problems and things like that.
I mean, there's just so many ways, easy ways to
(11:27):
make trees a real asset without it being a major problem.
But I think too, there's too many people when they
look at trees, that think about trees and all they
think is the problems associated with them are not the
large numbers of benefits. And I think are as a
society we're really losing out because of some of the
(11:49):
negative attitudes that have developed over the years.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Oh, I agree with you one hundred percent. And again,
you know you have to look at it, you know,
and you and I always if Kenny, this has been
around here forever. You know, best time to play in
a tree, you know, whenever, and the second best time
you know it was right yeah, twenty years ago, twenty
five years ago, it's second best time right now. And
you know, you know a lot of us have to
start looking at it, not only not for us, not
for me, but for the future and for the future
(12:14):
kids and the future grandkids and whatever it may be
in the future environment. Planting trees now, because it takes
a while for those trees to become you know, majorly beneficial.
I mean, they've got to get some size to them,
et cetera, et cetera. So you know how important that
is to get started now and keep planting. You know,
as the years go along, but you know, it takes
a while, so you're planting it forward. But you got
(12:35):
to keep that in mind. But you're right. Every now
and then I do run across someone it's just like,
no trees, not gonna rake, not gonna put up with
the roots, not gonna you know whatever, And it's like, Okay,
I don't understand.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Yeah, maybe I spend too much time on social media,
but I run across those people a lot. And it's troubling.
It's troubling for the future of our society that we
have so many people that think like that, because trees
are just so important to our overall quality of life
and to the environment. I mean, there's so many negatives
(13:11):
going on with the environment, and you know, having trees
and having healthy trees and having mature trees because like
you said, it takes a long time, and it just
really you know, not too long ago, I had somebody
I knew. They said, well, we had this big oak
tree and it was dropping limbs and we just got
(13:32):
tired of it, so we cut it down. Well, I mean,
it's a big tree, and it takes and I saw
one study that said it takes two hundred and fifty.
You know, smaller sized trees equal the environmental benefits of
one large mature tree, And if you plant two hundred
and fifty trees, they better all live. You're still not
(13:54):
going to equal the benefits of that one big, large tree, right,
I mean, it's you can't. I mean, the negatives when
you cut down just one older tree are huge. And
as a society, we're cutting trees down a lot faster
than we're planning them, and you know, we're falling behind. So,
(14:15):
you know, I think our Arbor Day, you know, Earth
Day is kind of a sister thing that they've come
up with at about the same time as Arbor Day,
and you know, it's just a time for us to
really sit back and reflect. But what are we doing
to the earth, What are we doing to our environment?
And how is it the trees can really turn things
(14:40):
around their benefit that and they can and they do,
but we've got to change some of those negative attitudes.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Yeah. You know, I've always said Arbor Day is the
Rodney Dangerfield of all the awareness days out there, because
it is you know, I don't get any you know,
I don't get any appreciation. I don't you know, whatever,
because it is, and it's unfortunate thing. Earth Day obviously
gets a lot more play, and I get it. It's okay.
I mean Earth Day is a great one too, bring
(15:08):
a lot of attention, especially to kids and all. But
get you know, getting out there and planting. And I
heard a saying last year, and I may have said
this to you because I always say, you know, plant,
get out and plant a tree or two or three.
And I read someone where somebody's talking about, you know,
let's not just get out and plant trees, but let's
get out and grow trees. Because it's easy to plant
a tree, but now you got to grow a tree
and make sure that it continues to grow. You know,
(15:30):
what you're doing is going to continue to grow.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Yeah, that's something that we have a big problem with too,
is the idea that everybody wants to plant a tree,
and a lot of communities like the plant trees, but
then money is not put toward caring for those trees
right once they're put in the ground, and it really
isn't very beneficial. Matter of fact, from a from a
(15:53):
carbon standpoint, it's a negative to go out and plant
the tree and just let it die because you end
up with more resources being put into producing that tree
and planting that tree than you ever get back if
the tree doesn't last at least ten years. So you know,
putting resources into actually caring for the trees we're putting
(16:15):
in the ground is really important and in that vein,
and I wanted to touch on this real fast because
you always ask me what should we be doing this
time of the year, and there's a lot go ahead,
see I'm getting out of you, but there's a lot
of research that shows that the very best time to
prienature is in the springtime because they are forming new rings,
(16:40):
new tissue, and when you purnature in the springtime, the
wound response seems to be the best of any time
of the year with most species of trees, at least
in temperate regions. So this is a very good time
to prienature. And I bring that up because when we
are planting trees, I really want to look at what
(17:03):
the structure of the tree is. We call that young
tree training. I'm going to a workshop next week in
Indianapolis with Lindsay Purcell and doctor ed Gilman on prescription
tree printing, and the whole idea is I mean you
don't have a child and not do any disciplining or
(17:25):
correcting until they reach fifteen or twenty years old. And
you don't plant a tree and ignore it for fifteen
or twenty years. What you want to do is kind
of look at the structure of the tree, pick out
a branch that kind of goes up through the canopy
of the tree, and kind of a best fit line
(17:46):
from the standpoint or what want? What branch is really
going to make a central leader and you want really
a one liter tree with side branches coming off of that.
And what you do is you kind of look at
the tree and you decide one day how high up
am I going to want this tree branched? You know,
(18:07):
am I going to want it limb up to you know,
six feet above the ground? Eight feet above the ground.
And once you've made that decision, everything below that becomes
a temporary branch. You don't want to cut them off
because you're not right away, because they're providing fhetosynthetic inputs
to the tree. But you also don't want them growing
(18:29):
vertically up into the canopy of the tree and taking
over part of the canopy because one day you're going
to want them out of there. So what you do
is you pick out that best fit you know, central leader,
and everything else you subordinate. If you have another branch
growing up that's competing with that central leader, you maybe
cut it back halfa to a side branch that's growing outward.
(18:53):
And you want everything kind of growing horizontal below that
point that you're eventually going to want to print. But
but again, you keep most of those branches at least
in part so they can provide phretosynthetic inputs while the
top of the tree starts to develop canopy and you
continue to train a central leader up through that tree.
(19:16):
And if you do that, and there's some very good
videos on this, if you look up doctor ed Gilan
and tree pruning a University of Florida has some really
good information. I have some on my.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Website adoctor dot com.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Yes, okay, but uh, you know, this is a great
time of the year to do that, and it's really
important for the future of the trees.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
If the if and when the Easter Bunny comes to
night to the Rotha's house, what are you hoping the
Easter bunny will be bringing you.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
I've been working with the nutritionists for the past years,
so rather than candy. Probably dates dates are wonderful. You
put some the contises in the middle of them. It's
like pecan pie.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
You want to date? Yes, oh oh date dates Ron
Day eight, got it? Got it? Hey, Ron roethis Happy
Arbor Day to you next Friday. Have a great Easter weekend,
and we appreciate all the information. Again, Ron roethis always
a pleasure.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Same to you. Happy Eastern All right.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Take care his website again at arbordoctor dot com. Quick, great,
we come back. Guess what phone lines are all going
to be open for you? Eight hundred eight two three
eight two five five Jump on board. Here in the
garden with Ron.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
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