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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome back here in the Garden with Ron Wilson. Don't
forget our website. It's Ron Wilson online dot com Facebook
page in the Garden with Ron Wilson as well. Be
sure and check out Reada's recipes. There, we've got them, Juelos,
We've got the cross buns. Our plant pick of the
week is Eastern lilies. Obviously they're out there. One thing
I wanna say real quick, Easter lilies can be very
toxic to cats. So that's one plant that I will
(00:25):
forwarn folks about is can be very toxic to cats
should they decide to eat your Easter lily. So there
you go. Now it is time for the Buggy Joe
Bog and Porters. Joe Bob just as a professor commercial
Judge preys a Universe Extension Issue Department of Entomology, poster
boy for Issue Extension, co creator of Matha Coffee and Porium.
Their website byg L dot OSU dot Eedu, Ladies and gentlemen,
(00:48):
mister common Sensical himself Buggy Joe.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Bug, I don't know about that. I think we have
to get some different sound effect.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Yeah, I think we need Yeah, where's all the cheers.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Yeah, I don't know where we go there. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Yeah, Danny asked everybody to not cheer. Let's throw Joe
off and not cheer today, is what he said.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
So that's that's true. That's true. I mean I know
how to act if you do that.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I know everybody's just in such amazement that Joe Boggs
is coming on. They just want to listen. They don't
want to waste time. Yeah, Ron, be quiet, just just
say buggy Joe Boggs and let him go. By the way.
I have some exciting news for you, Joe.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I want to hear it.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
There is a new donut shop that just opened up
on Tylersville Road.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
No, yes, all right, Oh okay, I'll talk to you
next week.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yes. They're called Peace Love and Little Donuts.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Oh many take them.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
They make they make what you know, you can go
there and all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yeah, coffee I've heard of. Coffee is good.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
So yeah, you're just you're you're just doing it. I mean,
I am surprised you don't hear the door closing right now,
so my piece.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
I think they're up until five. So after we're done,
you might want to put missus Boggs in the car
and make a little run over to Tyler's rail Road
in Mason, Ohio.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
There you go, man, you only have a donut trail
in Butler County, which is just I mean, a donut trail.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
How many many how they said, Joe Boggs lives in
Butler County. Let's let's put a donut trail together for Joe.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
You know, it's just well, I mean, you know, there
are spots on Earth that's like heaven. I mean, that's
just I just have to say it. You know, you
have donuts everywhere, I I mean want more.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Have you the personal well, have you ever had a
donut without coffee? You personally?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Yeah? Actually, well, if I'm living, if I'm living rough,
you know, that's that's how I mean, you know, that's
you just have to to sometimes just have to sacrifice
and just do what you got to do, right, you know.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
I understand.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
I don't think it'll say I'm pretty bad, doesn't it.
But yeah, I in the evening, you know, because you know,
if I have my evening donut, you know, I'm not
going to have coffee probably with that, but well then
I'll have to I'll be up at one o'clock and
have another after midnight donuts.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
For some reason, I can't imagine that happening to you.
I can drink coffee anytime during the evening before I
go to bed. It doesn't keep me.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Up, you know, it does the opposite for me. Actually,
I've told you that in the evening, if I have coffee,
I get tired. I don't know why. It's always been
that way. Studying way back in college, you know it
would be it would be the wrong thing to do,
which is kind of it's strange. But in the morning
it's I mean, if I hadn't had coffee, I wouldn't
(04:05):
be constructing sentences right now, you know, non a syllable words,
just be like you'd be talking to a cave man,
is really what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
See, one of your one of your favorite favorite actors
birthday is today.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Oh Gary, do not know?
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Gary Busey?
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Oh crazy Gary.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Crazy Gary. That's what we said.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
How old is Gary Booth?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
I think Danny said he was eighty eighty?
Speaker 2 (04:35):
My goodness, Well we were surprising still around. Well there
there's that, yeah, yeah, there is that. Yeah, eighty years
your teeth you go, So, so what were we.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Gonna it's your segment there in mine. I don't know,
I can't if you don't have anything to talk about besides,
I know for your favorite the Easter Bunny candy would be.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
You know, it's it's anything chocolate, but the hollow chocolate bunnies.
I actually like the solid ones a little better, but
the hollow ones there's there's a little bit. I mean,
there are things that that that you can pour into
a hollow well after bunny.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Right, yeah, yeah, we we talked about that with Gary
and we but yeah, but uh, you know, but the
Easter Bunny doesn't bring you that well, he does bring
you the hollow ones, but anything else in that basket
besides the hollow chocolate Easter Bunny. I see you as
a malted milkball kind of guy.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I was I know you. I was just going to
say that whoppers malted milk balls I am and will
always be. And man, I tell you, you put those in
a blender with ice cream and a little milk and
you have a fantastic malt.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Okay, you know, like that is something go home and try.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I love that. Oh yeah, yeah, it's a it's a
i of chocolate malts. And I think we talked about
this before. You know that they used to be everywhere.
That was just I mean, if you got a chocolate milkshake,
you can get a chocolate malt. Right, Yeah, I don't.
I don't as often. I just don't. Do they have
(06:21):
good ones? Oh?
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yeah, absolutely, well good.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Ones too, yeah, dairy queen and you do f I mean,
but you know that was just oh, that was just
every I mean, that was again, of course, I'm sure
you know. I mean, we're not just talking to folks
in southwest Ohio. So some parts of the country I
do know that has kind of that's remained. But I
(06:47):
am in this area. There are a few places you
can do that. But it was just a given. So, yes,
a chocolate malt made from whoppers. I'm sorry, between donuts
and that. Look, what's my segment's done? I'm looking at
my watch.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
All right, let me throw this one out there. I
used to do this as a kid. I love this
vanilla wafers and milk, oh yeah, milk, and then well
but then I would smash them up. So I made
a pasty thing out of vanilla wafers and milk and
eat it with a spoon.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Is that right. Well, there you go. See I'm you know,
I'm a dunker.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
You're a dunker, all right?
Speaker 2 (07:31):
You didn't know that? Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
I'm not a dunker. I don't want that stuff floating
around in my milk. Why I never dunk stuff. I
eat it or I smash them together. But I don't
want stuff floating in my milk or my coffee.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Oh, it's just all going to be there together eventually,
I know, but not when.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
I'm drinking it. It's like having a moth in your
coffee when you go to take a drink.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Oh man, you had to do that, and I'm holding
my cup of coffee right now.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Well, take an inspection before you take a drink. Let's
take a break now, so we got more time with
you after the break, talking with Buggy Joe Boggs here
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Speaker 1 (09:35):
Welcome back, You're in the garden with Ron Wilson time
for part two with the Buggy Joe Bos report. That
would be Buggy Joe Bogs from OSUE Extension their website
b yg L dot O issue dot E d U.
I don't know if you had things to talk about today,
do you, because I have a couple of tips.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Well, okay, so two things very quickly. Oil temperatures indicate
that the periodical cicadas brood fourteen. Remember that's that's only
in southern Ohio down through Kentucky into Tennessee. It's actually
a pretty big brood it is. And yeah, the soil
temperatures for our part of the geographical range for brood
(10:21):
fourteen are just approaching, are just right there. The data
has always shown that once the soil temperature reaches sixty
four degrees and goes above it, then we start seeing emergence.
Now that's being predicted, friar. I don't have a thermometer
out there sticking in the ground, but that's being predicted.
(10:42):
So this coming week I'm going to be making some trips.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Get up to fifty six yesterday.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yeah, yeah, I know it's kind of interesting. Oh oh,
the soil temperature, well, because you do have a thermometer
in the ground.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Nope, I go to green cast online.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
That's where I go to. Isn't that interesting? That's exactly? Yeah,
that's what now, you know, I guess it must be that.
What location am I using? I have to look at
that because because if you saw, it's predicting next week
we're going to go above the sixty four. But like
I said, I'm gonna have to look you know what
it is where I just.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Pulled it up. You know what it is now? You
got up to sixty nine yesterday. It's a sixty four
right now for southern Ohio.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Well, okay, I'll see you.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Later at fifty eight.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yeah. Yeah, So so you see, we're right at the
We're right at the edge, and so I'll be heading
over in our area. We're going to see the highest
emergency in the over in Claremont County, eastern Hamilton County. Yes,
and there are even places in southern Butler in two
thousand and eight where we saw, but the higher numbers
(12:02):
are going to be over in Claremont County. And that's
where I'm going to be heading this coming week, maybe
a couple of trips because I want to catch it
early and we really do hope people report this and
the way to report it, and I'm going to do
a big alert about it is there is an app
that you can download. It works really well. Doctor gene Kritsky,
(12:26):
you know, you know the Cicada Man literally wrote the
book about cicadas retired but not retired from Mount Saint
Joe here in Cincinnati. He and their IT people developed
this Cicada Safari that's the name of it. If you
if you just searched that cicada Safari and you can
take a picture of the cicadas and then and then
(12:49):
there's a way to send that picture as long as
you do allow for that moment for that use your
location to be revealed, because that's important. And the idea
is then you have the picture, it goes to Cicada Safari,
it gets confirmed and now here is something that if
(13:09):
a person could do this. Now I'm not saying everybody
needs to do this, but if you're brave enough to
do it, then this could be very helpful. The way
that we separate the three different species of periodical cicadas
is based on the banding or lack of banding on
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the underside of the abdomen. So if you come up
and grab the cicada, you know, with your thumb and forefinger,
index finger, pointing finger, grab them by the wings. They
don't bite, they can't do anything. But if you do
that and pull it away from the tree and then
(13:52):
you know, look at the underside and take a picture
of that, we can actually while we a gene, can
actually identify it to species. And that's kind of important too.
But I don't want to get caught up with that.
I don't want to have people, you know, saying, well,
you know, I didn't want to do that, so I
didn't report it. The main point is this, every time
we have an emergence, we try to get data on
(14:15):
exactly where the cicadas occur and in the past, in
the past is you know what I mean, maps would
show them where they weren't and then would also show
them where not show them where they are, because you know,
the reporting was sometimes based on memory. Oh yeah, I
remember we had them here ten years ago. Well maybe not.
(14:38):
You know, it's just that's just how our history goes, right, right,
But Cicada Safari, that really allows us to nail down
exactly where these are. And that's real important in Ohio
because our data here was not real complete. You'll find
that if you look at the maps, you might find
like a single cicado over in Jackson, CA County. That's
(15:00):
kind of south central Ohio. And and you know, you know,
I single cicada, you know, I mean it's no there
are probably quite a few, but only one person reported it.
So cicada safari. And that's not just for Ohio, that's
anywhere this brood is going to emerge. And as a
matter of fact, I have to download it myself. Here
(15:22):
I am. You know, I said do as I say,
not as I do, right, but I need I need
to download it so that when I do go over
there and you know, look at the emergence, take pictures
and so forth, I can go ahead and start reporting
my own on myself. So that was it. Cicada, just
a cicada. U date?
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Are you going to eat any something?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
I do not eat insects? It started with a moth
and my coffee.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
I probably started before that because I have eating them
in there. You know it's different, there's no doubt about it.
But anyway, I don't know why not about and I
don't know if you you'll probably address this sooner or
later as we go along. But I just had a
couple this week that were a couple of people that
(16:13):
had real severe infestations last year on their maple trees.
They were smaller ones with one of the leaf calls
and was going to this person or both of them
actually wanted to do They're going to do everything in
their possibility, sprang, treating, doing whatever to control those And
I don't think I could convince them not to do anything,
(16:35):
to just let it go.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
But yeah, it's why, I mean, it really is almost impossible, Ron,
I mean it's even I know, I'm.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Sure you're facing that too sometimes.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Well. And what's even more difficult for you and I
and it's when there was a problem in nurseries. So
you and I both know this. I mean you all
have a you know, nursery and agort nursery. I mean,
you know there isn't there aren't a group of people
that have the professional ability first to recognize things and
monitor things and also have the ability that if applications
(17:17):
are required, to be able to accomplish them effectively. I mean,
there's no other people beside nurserymen, right, I mean, they're able,
you know, to be out there monitor and know what
they're looking at. And Ron, I gotta tell you, even
nurseries have it's it's almost impossible. Particularly the leaf galls
(17:37):
like like you mentioned, those are probably midge galls. The
little tiny flying insects look like gnats, and if you
know they don't. The whole development doesn't work well with systemics.
First of all, that's kind of a we don't know why,
but a lot of the research, you know, with systemics,
and unfortunately there hasn't been very much. Those few studies
(18:01):
not very good. And then if you're spreading the tree
what we call topical applications, well there's a challenge there
because they're not eating the tree as adults. And that's
very important because are insecticides are primarily stomach poisons. And
once that egg is deposited, which it may already have happened,
(18:23):
by the way, because a lot of these deposit eggs
in the fall into the tissue. But once it's depositive,
you're done. I mean, no topical is going to kill that.
And I've known, you know, very dedicated homeowners who have
tried and failed, and also even nurseries that have tried
(18:45):
and failed, because it's just very very difficult. So it's
a shame. I mean, I understand, you know, some people
you know, don't want something like that, but they do
not hurt trees, they don't hurt anything. There's only you know,
you and I have talked about this before, and these
are all waspgalls. I mentioned the ones on maples, probably midge,
(19:08):
m I d ge. But but the wasp galls. Uh.
There are far more waspballs on oaks than we find
on anything else. But there's only maybe two or three
species that actually cause any serious harm now I think
about it now, maybe four in the United States. The
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rest of them just cause no harm to the plant
at all. And of course this is what you and
I work very hard to help people understand. What should
trigger and use of in seticide is not how the
plant looks. It should be the health of the plant,
right and so if if it's not going to hurt
the health, there's it's just and you're not going to
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have success either. So Sorr got carried away.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
I just wanted to say the same thing, so you
know a little bit of backup. There's it's hard to
convince with people that sometimes. But anyway, Buggy Joe Boggs.
Have a happy Easter weekend to you and your family.
We will talk to you next Saturday.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Chocolate malts and donuts. Well you have a great weekend.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Bye bye, all right, take care. Thanks all of our callers,
Thanks to our sponsors. Thanks of course to our producer
Danny Gleeson, because without Danny Gleeson, none of the stuff
would happen. So Danny, thank you again so much for
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(20:34):
weekend of your life. See ye, how is your Guardian growing?
Call Ron now at one eight hundred eighty two three.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Talk you're listening to in the Garden with Ron Wilson,
The
Welcome back here in the Garden with Ron Wilson. Don't
forget our website. It's Ron Wilson online dot com Facebook
page in the Garden with Ron Wilson as well. Be
sure and check out Reada's recipes. There, we've got them, Juelos,
We've got the cross buns. Our plant pick of the
week is Eastern lilies. Obviously they're out there. One thing
I wanna say real quick, Easter lilies can be very
toxic to cats. So that's one plant that I will
(00:25):
forwarn folks about is can be very toxic to cats
should they decide to eat your Easter lily. So there
you go. Now it is time for the Buggy Joe
Bog and Porters. Joe Bob just as a professor commercial
Judge preys a Universe Extension Issue Department of Entomology, poster
boy for Issue Extension, co creator of Matha Coffee and Porium.
Their website byg L dot OSU dot Eedu, Ladies and gentlemen,
(00:48):
mister common Sensical himself Buggy Joe.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Bug, I don't know about that. I think we have
to get some different sound effect.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Yeah, I think we need Yeah, where's all the cheers.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Yeah, I don't know where we go there. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Yeah, Danny asked everybody to not cheer. Let's throw Joe
off and not cheer today, is what he said.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
So that's that's true. That's true. I mean I know
how to act if you do that.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I know everybody's just in such amazement that Joe Boggs
is coming on. They just want to listen. They don't
want to waste time. Yeah, Ron, be quiet, just just
say buggy Joe Boggs and let him go. By the way.
I have some exciting news for you, Joe.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I want to hear it.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
There is a new donut shop that just opened up
on Tylersville Road.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
No, yes, all right, Oh okay, I'll talk to you
next week.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yes. They're called Peace Love and Little Donuts.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Oh many take them.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
They make they make what you know, you can go
there and all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Yeah, coffee I've heard of. Coffee is good.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
So yeah, you're just you're you're just doing it. I mean,
I am surprised you don't hear the door closing right now,
so my piece.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
I think they're up until five. So after we're done,
you might want to put missus Boggs in the car
and make a little run over to Tyler's rail Road
in Mason, Ohio.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
There you go, man, you only have a donut trail
in Butler County, which is just I mean, a donut trail.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
How many many how they said, Joe Boggs lives in
Butler County. Let's let's put a donut trail together for Joe.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
You know, it's just well, I mean, you know, there
are spots on Earth that's like heaven. I mean, that's
just I just have to say it. You know, you
have donuts everywhere, I I mean want more.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Have you the personal well, have you ever had a
donut without coffee? You personally?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Yeah? Actually, well, if I'm living, if I'm living rough,
you know, that's that's how I mean, you know, that's
you just have to to sometimes just have to sacrifice
and just do what you got to do, right, you know.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
I understand.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
I don't think it'll say I'm pretty bad, doesn't it.
But yeah, I in the evening, you know, because you know,
if I have my evening donut, you know, I'm not
going to have coffee probably with that, but well then
I'll have to I'll be up at one o'clock and
have another after midnight donuts.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
For some reason, I can't imagine that happening to you.
I can drink coffee anytime during the evening before I
go to bed. It doesn't keep me.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Up, you know, it does the opposite for me. Actually,
I've told you that in the evening, if I have coffee,
I get tired. I don't know why. It's always been
that way. Studying way back in college, you know it
would be it would be the wrong thing to do,
which is kind of it's strange. But in the morning
it's I mean, if I hadn't had coffee, I wouldn't
(04:05):
be constructing sentences right now, you know, non a syllable words,
just be like you'd be talking to a cave man,
is really what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
See, one of your one of your favorite favorite actors
birthday is today.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Oh Gary, do not know?
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Gary Busey?
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Oh crazy Gary.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Crazy Gary. That's what we said.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
How old is Gary Booth?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
I think Danny said he was eighty eighty?
Speaker 2 (04:35):
My goodness, Well we were surprising still around. Well there
there's that, yeah, yeah, there is that. Yeah, eighty years
your teeth you go, So, so what were we.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Gonna it's your segment there in mine. I don't know,
I can't if you don't have anything to talk about besides,
I know for your favorite the Easter Bunny candy would be.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
You know, it's it's anything chocolate, but the hollow chocolate bunnies.
I actually like the solid ones a little better, but
the hollow ones there's there's a little bit. I mean,
there are things that that that you can pour into
a hollow well after bunny.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Right, yeah, yeah, we we talked about that with Gary
and we but yeah, but uh, you know, but the
Easter Bunny doesn't bring you that well, he does bring
you the hollow ones, but anything else in that basket
besides the hollow chocolate Easter Bunny. I see you as
a malted milkball kind of guy.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I was I know you. I was just going to
say that whoppers malted milk balls I am and will
always be. And man, I tell you, you put those in
a blender with ice cream and a little milk and
you have a fantastic malt.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Okay, you know, like that is something go home and try.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I love that. Oh yeah, yeah, it's a it's a
i of chocolate malts. And I think we talked about
this before. You know that they used to be everywhere.
That was just I mean, if you got a chocolate milkshake,
you can get a chocolate malt. Right, Yeah, I don't.
I don't as often. I just don't. Do they have
(06:21):
good ones? Oh?
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Yeah, absolutely, well good.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Ones too, yeah, dairy queen and you do f I mean,
but you know that was just oh, that was just
every I mean, that was again, of course, I'm sure
you know. I mean, we're not just talking to folks
in southwest Ohio. So some parts of the country I
do know that has kind of that's remained. But I
(06:47):
am in this area. There are a few places you
can do that. But it was just a given. So, yes,
a chocolate malt made from whoppers. I'm sorry, between donuts
and that. Look, what's my segment's done? I'm looking at
my watch.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
All right, let me throw this one out there. I
used to do this as a kid. I love this
vanilla wafers and milk, oh yeah, milk, and then well
but then I would smash them up. So I made
a pasty thing out of vanilla wafers and milk and
eat it with a spoon.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Is that right. Well, there you go. See I'm you know,
I'm a dunker.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
You're a dunker, all right?
Speaker 2 (07:31):
You didn't know that? Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
I'm not a dunker. I don't want that stuff floating
around in my milk. Why I never dunk stuff. I
eat it or I smash them together. But I don't
want stuff floating in my milk or my coffee.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Oh, it's just all going to be there together eventually,
I know, but not when.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
I'm drinking it. It's like having a moth in your
coffee when you go to take a drink.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Oh man, you had to do that, and I'm holding
my cup of coffee right now.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Well, take an inspection before you take a drink. Let's
take a break now, so we got more time with
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Speaker 1 (09:35):
Welcome back, You're in the garden with Ron Wilson time
for part two with the Buggy Joe Bos report. That
would be Buggy Joe Bogs from OSUE Extension their website
b yg L dot O issue dot E d U.
I don't know if you had things to talk about today,
do you, because I have a couple of tips.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Well, okay, so two things very quickly. Oil temperatures indicate
that the periodical cicadas brood fourteen. Remember that's that's only
in southern Ohio down through Kentucky into Tennessee. It's actually
a pretty big brood it is. And yeah, the soil
temperatures for our part of the geographical range for brood
(10:21):
fourteen are just approaching, are just right there. The data
has always shown that once the soil temperature reaches sixty
four degrees and goes above it, then we start seeing emergence.
Now that's being predicted, friar. I don't have a thermometer
out there sticking in the ground, but that's being predicted.
(10:42):
So this coming week I'm going to be making some trips.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Get up to fifty six yesterday.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yeah, yeah, I know it's kind of interesting. Oh oh,
the soil temperature, well, because you do have a thermometer
in the ground.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Nope, I go to green cast online.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
That's where I go to. Isn't that interesting? That's exactly? Yeah,
that's what now, you know, I guess it must be that.
What location am I using? I have to look at
that because because if you saw, it's predicting next week
we're going to go above the sixty four. But like
I said, I'm gonna have to look you know what
it is where I just.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Pulled it up. You know what it is now? You
got up to sixty nine yesterday. It's a sixty four
right now for southern Ohio.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Well, okay, I'll see you.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Later at fifty eight.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yeah. Yeah, So so you see, we're right at the
We're right at the edge, and so I'll be heading
over in our area. We're going to see the highest
emergency in the over in Claremont County, eastern Hamilton County. Yes,
and there are even places in southern Butler in two
thousand and eight where we saw, but the higher numbers
(12:02):
are going to be over in Claremont County. And that's
where I'm going to be heading this coming week, maybe
a couple of trips because I want to catch it
early and we really do hope people report this and
the way to report it, and I'm going to do
a big alert about it is there is an app
that you can download. It works really well. Doctor gene Kritsky,
(12:26):
you know, you know the Cicada Man literally wrote the
book about cicadas retired but not retired from Mount Saint
Joe here in Cincinnati. He and their IT people developed
this Cicada Safari that's the name of it. If you
if you just searched that cicada Safari and you can
take a picture of the cicadas and then and then
(12:49):
there's a way to send that picture as long as
you do allow for that moment for that use your
location to be revealed, because that's important. And the idea
is then you have the picture, it goes to Cicada Safari,
it gets confirmed and now here is something that if
(13:09):
a person could do this. Now I'm not saying everybody
needs to do this, but if you're brave enough to
do it, then this could be very helpful. The way
that we separate the three different species of periodical cicadas
is based on the banding or lack of banding on
(13:29):
the underside of the abdomen. So if you come up
and grab the cicada, you know, with your thumb and forefinger,
index finger, pointing finger, grab them by the wings. They
don't bite, they can't do anything. But if you do
that and pull it away from the tree and then
(13:52):
you know, look at the underside and take a picture
of that, we can actually while we a gene, can
actually identify it to species. And that's kind of important too.
But I don't want to get caught up with that.
I don't want to have people, you know, saying, well,
you know, I didn't want to do that, so I
didn't report it. The main point is this, every time
we have an emergence, we try to get data on
(14:15):
exactly where the cicadas occur and in the past, in
the past is you know what I mean, maps would
show them where they weren't and then would also show
them where not show them where they are, because you know,
the reporting was sometimes based on memory. Oh yeah, I
remember we had them here ten years ago. Well maybe not.
(14:38):
You know, it's just that's just how our history goes, right, right,
But Cicada Safari, that really allows us to nail down
exactly where these are. And that's real important in Ohio
because our data here was not real complete. You'll find
that if you look at the maps, you might find
like a single cicado over in Jackson, CA County. That's
(15:00):
kind of south central Ohio. And and you know, you know,
I single cicada, you know, I mean it's no there
are probably quite a few, but only one person reported it.
So cicada safari. And that's not just for Ohio, that's
anywhere this brood is going to emerge. And as a
matter of fact, I have to download it myself. Here
(15:22):
I am. You know, I said do as I say,
not as I do, right, but I need I need
to download it so that when I do go over
there and you know, look at the emergence, take pictures
and so forth, I can go ahead and start reporting
my own on myself. So that was it. Cicada, just
a cicada. U date?
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Are you going to eat any something?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
I do not eat insects? It started with a moth
and my coffee.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
I probably started before that because I have eating them
in there. You know it's different, there's no doubt about it.
But anyway, I don't know why not about and I
don't know if you you'll probably address this sooner or
later as we go along. But I just had a
couple this week that were a couple of people that
(16:13):
had real severe infestations last year on their maple trees.
They were smaller ones with one of the leaf calls
and was going to this person or both of them
actually wanted to do They're going to do everything in
their possibility, sprang, treating, doing whatever to control those And
I don't think I could convince them not to do anything,
(16:35):
to just let it go.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
But yeah, it's why, I mean, it really is almost impossible, Ron,
I mean it's even I know, I'm.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Sure you're facing that too sometimes.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Well. And what's even more difficult for you and I
and it's when there was a problem in nurseries. So
you and I both know this. I mean you all
have a you know, nursery and agort nursery. I mean,
you know there isn't there aren't a group of people
that have the professional ability first to recognize things and
monitor things and also have the ability that if applications
(17:17):
are required, to be able to accomplish them effectively. I mean,
there's no other people beside nurserymen, right, I mean, they're able,
you know, to be out there monitor and know what
they're looking at. And Ron, I gotta tell you, even
nurseries have it's it's almost impossible. Particularly the leaf galls
(17:37):
like like you mentioned, those are probably midge galls. The
little tiny flying insects look like gnats, and if you
know they don't. The whole development doesn't work well with systemics.
First of all, that's kind of a we don't know why,
but a lot of the research, you know, with systemics,
and unfortunately there hasn't been very much. Those few studies
(18:01):
not very good. And then if you're spreading the tree
what we call topical applications, well there's a challenge there
because they're not eating the tree as adults. And that's
very important because are insecticides are primarily stomach poisons. And
once that egg is deposited, which it may already have happened,
(18:23):
by the way, because a lot of these deposit eggs
in the fall into the tissue. But once it's depositive,
you're done. I mean, no topical is going to kill that.
And I've known, you know, very dedicated homeowners who have
tried and failed, and also even nurseries that have tried
(18:45):
and failed, because it's just very very difficult. So it's
a shame. I mean, I understand, you know, some people
you know, don't want something like that, but they do
not hurt trees, they don't hurt anything. There's only you know,
you and I have talked about this before, and these
are all waspgalls. I mentioned the ones on maples, probably midge,
(19:08):
m I d ge. But but the wasp galls. Uh.
There are far more waspballs on oaks than we find
on anything else. But there's only maybe two or three
species that actually cause any serious harm now I think
about it now, maybe four in the United States. The
(19:30):
rest of them just cause no harm to the plant
at all. And of course this is what you and
I work very hard to help people understand. What should
trigger and use of in seticide is not how the
plant looks. It should be the health of the plant,
right and so if if it's not going to hurt
the health, there's it's just and you're not going to
(19:50):
have success either. So Sorr got carried away.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
I just wanted to say the same thing, so you
know a little bit of backup. There's it's hard to
convince with people that sometimes. But anyway, Buggy Joe Boggs.
Have a happy Easter weekend to you and your family.
We will talk to you next Saturday.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Chocolate malts and donuts. Well you have a great weekend.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Bye bye, all right, take care. Thanks all of our callers,
Thanks to our sponsors. Thanks of course to our producer
Danny Gleeson, because without Danny Gleeson, none of the stuff
would happen. So Danny, thank you again so much for
all that you do. Now do yourself a favor. We're
gonna plant a tree or two or three. Keep planting
those native plants, those native selections, be pollinator friendly. Pan
for your worms, get the kids and dogs of all
the Guardian by all means, make this the best Easter
(20:34):
weekend of your life. See ye, how is your Guardian growing?
Call Ron now at one eight hundred eighty two three.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
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