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April 26, 2025 20 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Talking to your rd ning at eight hundred eight two
three eight two five five. Don't forget our website. It's
Ron Wilson online dot com and Facebook page in the
garden with Ron Wilson as well. And you know what
it is time for time for what it is, time
for the bucket, Joe Bald your purpose of Joe Bocks.
It's just a professor horticulture educator for the Ohio State
University Extension. Let's see what else I want to say

(00:22):
about it today. Nothing, because I want to talk to
him more. His website is byg L dot OSU dot EEDU,
Ladies and gentlemen, mister common sensical himself buggy Joe Bob. Yeah,
I don't want to take up a lot of time.
I want to talk. Let's talk, Let's talk, and you know, I.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yeah, all right, I realize it though. I'm actually a
summer annual, you know, when you describe those life cycles,
I was taking Wait a second, No, I'm not on
in the winter, you know that's right.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
You know, so you would be like a summer annual.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
A summer annually on the radio shows. Yeah, let me.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Let me ask you this. I'm okay, and I'm gonna
I'm gonna ask you. This is a serious question I
have gotten over the last probably two weeks, including my
own wife emailing me saying that she wants this particular
bogonia that's showing up on on the like Facebook or
Pinterest or whatever called like there's one of them called

(01:25):
Moonlight Butterfly Bogonia, and they actually write the descriptions about
it and everything. Well, they aren't available. That's all AI generated.
Oh no, yeah, and I mean they have a whole
series of these these begonias that look like butterflies. I
mean they literally look like and that's what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
And then they've got something called Cat's Eyes Dazzle Panda
face flowers.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
And generating it's generating everything, you know, the name and
the picture and all that.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yeah, because it's not available. And they have like a
you know, like the place where you can order the
seeds and stuff and stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Well that is is that crazy? I didn't think. I
did not think AI was going to infiltrate horticulture that quickly.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
Well, somebody somebody's doing it. I mean, obviously somebody's doing it.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well I had.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
My wife said she said, I want one of these
where do I get these? And I said, you know, Carol,
that's an AI generated plant. It doesn't exist. And then
all of a sudden, because it's out there, I'm getting
all kinds of somebody's like, do you grow these? Are
these available? It's like, uh no, no.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Sorry, now that is really no, I I this is
it's now I'm looking. I just I did a little
Oh my gosh, there's are a whole series of these,
yeah plants. Yeah, and now I see what you're talking about.
You know, that's interesting now that I look at the
I look at the bogonia that looks like, well, the butterfly.

(03:02):
I don't know how to describe it. I've actually never
realized how much when you look at bogonia leaves there
is a bit of a resemblance to butterflies. You know.
I kind of hadn't noticed that before.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
Well, yeah, but they do. Well, you're right, they do.
But this was you know, this was one of these
one of these websites actually talks about the bogonia and
then the different types and how these are rex pogonias
and blah blah blah, and it's like, you know that
they have butterfly like leaves. Well they do, and I
agree with that, I understand, But then you look at

(03:36):
these things, they're like that doesn't exist. That is really
interesting photoshop thing, you know.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Oh yeah, yeah, Well I'm looking at some hibiscus flowers
that I mean, it really does look like science fiction though.
I mean, let's say that rot. It's there are some
of these collars that you just that is too stark,
although you and I both know that long I'll tell
you a passion flower, for example, passion flower, it looks

(04:07):
like something that doesn't it looks like it's a I
generated you ever knows that.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Well, it looks like something at a dinosaur were sticking
his head around the corner. I think when you look
at that, it looks prehistoric to me.

Speaker 2 (04:20):
It really does, it doesn't It Just the first time
I ever saw passion flower flower, passion fruit flower, I
just it was it was mind boggling because I'd never
seen such an intricate structure like that. So, you know,
as I'm looking at some of these, now you've got
me onto this, I'm going to probably be at this

(04:41):
all morning. You know, just all these AI generated images
and they are pretty fascinating, but it is a shame
that this is sending people though in wild goose chases,
isn't it.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Yep? Look the other one is called Cat's Eye Flower.
Check so check it are the site, by the way,
is uh registered in China.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Well here we go. Yes, I see what you're talking about.
I really think that's pretty interesting. Yeah, well it's uh, well, you.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
Know it the way of the world today.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
It's the way of the world, and it can give
plant breeders goal a goal to achieve, right, yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
Now start working working on that plant.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
You know, you and I've been around long enough, and
I I can't think of examples, but different plants, different
flowers where there were no colors of a certain you know,
there's like no such thing as a a purple you know,
fill in the blank. You know what I'm saying that
you and I have been around long enough to have
heard these different things and experience them until finally, you know,

(05:56):
the plant beaters come along and produce something that that
was unheard of. And I've always found that fascinating that
uh and today, you know, there still are some colors
that just simply aren't available. I mean, they're just simply
not part of nature. But but you know what I'm
talking about. There were different colors different you know, in

(06:18):
the in the roses, for example, the hybrid, Yeah, not
dark maroon, well, no, exactly black. That's that's a.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Very you don't want. You don't want it. They've always
worked on and they've gotten pretty good now. Pon SETI
is in a white.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Well, that's true.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
It was always a cream color or a yellow tent
to it. You know that that type was never a
true clear white.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Yeah, yeah, I find that just so you think about it.
That's one area that that I just find fascinating with
how plant breeders will just keep working, you know, working
towards that kind of goal. But now, of course we've
set the We've just set the bar much higher, haven't we.
You need to that you know, has has leaves? Does

(07:13):
actually looked like leaves rather than flowers, aren't they? It
looks like butterflies? That's yeah, of course waite a second,
isn't there a butterfly begunia? Now I think about it?
Too late?

Speaker 1 (07:27):
Right, yeah?

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Too late? So what were we going to talk about today? Aside?

Speaker 1 (07:32):
I don't know, I didn't I didn't mean. I didn't
mean to throw you off there but I mean, I
just look at that, Oh my gosh, because people.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
Are people are I didn't know people.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
Are asking for it, and it's it's a you know,
you got to say no, I'm sorry that I hate
to let you down, but.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
No, you didn't throw me off at all. That was
a really nice That was a nice trip down you know.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Weird world today today, you know, we got it before
we take a break. Today is a post Arbor Day.
Joe and I consider Arbor Day as the Rodney danger
Field of awareness days.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Isn't that true? I've long felt that way, and Arbor
Day has been around since before, longer than the birthday, yeah,
longer Earth Day, longer than Donut Day, unfortunately, I think,
although you know, we'll argue the importance of one another
or the other later, but any.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
Rate, today's I think today's National Pretzel Day.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Oh, I know, that's interesting. That's you know, there is
a day for everything. Now, there needs a day.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
For there is I mean, every day has got something.
I don't know, but I just Arbor Day lost. You know,
it was a it was a major thing in one time,
and an Earth Day came along, and they're so kind
of rooted together because they're so close, but everything kind
of focuses towards toward Earth Day rather than Arbor Day.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
So well, you know, I get it too. I kind
of see where you know, Earth Day are talking about everything.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
Exactly, and I said, I'm all for it one hundred percent.
You know, if it brings awareness, super I get it.
But it took away from Arbor Day and they probably
give away they give away more trees on Earth Day,
I think today, because they just tie them both together.
And I get it.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yeah, but you know, you and I grew up Arbor
Day was it was very special. I mean in schools
the whole time you and I growing up, it was
it was a special day. And and and how many
trees are out there are from kids coming home, I
mean now big trees right right coming home, you know
with the arbor their Arbor Day tree, you know, a

(09:48):
little tiny suffering Norway spruce for example, you know in
the Norway spruce just you know, little sprigs and amazingly
you know, you're planting, and you know after and of
course by the time they got home, right, That's what

(10:09):
I keep focusing on. I remember mine by the time
they get home and be you know, but it was
amazing though. How many did well? I mean, there was
a Norway Sprus not far from where I lived that,
you know, the one of my classmates planted. And I'm
I'm pretty sure I can go back with Google Earth

(10:29):
and find a big tree, I mean bigger than it
should be in that spot, you know what I'm saying.
Yeah that, yeah, pretty sure.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
By the way, I think you were a sophomore in
high school when Earth Day started.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Yeah that welln't not Wait a second, is it that recent?

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Yeah? I think it was nineteen seventies, the early seventies.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
You know, I actually thought earth they started later than that. Seriously,
I I there was a big deal this year about it,
the history, which I just you know, it escaped me
for some reason. And of course you know, there's a
little bit of debate on on who named it right.
I mean, there's some debates about as with everything, you know,
just a little bit. But I did not realize that

(11:16):
you're exactly right that it started, you know, when when
you and I were, you know, in our in our teens.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Right, our prime high school days.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Our prime high school days.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
With that we got to take a break and find
out how much trouble Joe got into No. If you've
got something serious you're going to talk about, let's clean
a slate and we'll talk about it after the break
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(13:15):
website happens to be b y g L dot O
s U dot E d U Joe Buggs.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Speaking of you. I don't know where this is heading.
I don't even know why I said that. I was
thinking I was trying to get something working towards soil
mining bees.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
Soil mining bees. We saw some really good we saw
some really good soil mining bees down at the Botanical
Garden and zoom.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
You did.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
Yeah on the corner, interesting corner of one of the
walkways there, there's nothing planted there and now just Tina
Block pointed at. I thought, well, Steve's I think saw
him too, and little holes and they were just starting
to do their thing.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Yeah. Well, and I'm starting to get the messages and
a few phone call because you know, people do they
are bees. Thankfully, though, people are starting to connect the
dots in this case where you know, they're connecting it
to them being very important pollinators, which is true. But
we still do occasionally get, you know, the question, well

(14:18):
these you know, how do I get rid of them?
You know, they're worried about getting stung, that type of thing,
and so they are not at all aggressive, are they?
They're the most interesting bees. I've knelt down and we've
talked about this taking pictures right in the middle of
what we call a colony. But that's not exactly right.

(14:39):
When you think of a colony, really, that should apply
to something like yellow jackets, you know, horns, you know,
social insects. In this case, they're individual females that are
creating the burrows into the soil and then they attract
males and the males mate with them. But they're individual burrows,

(15:00):
except they're all there are a lot of them together.
So you think, well, wait a minute, you know, is
it appropriate to call them the colony or just call
them the collection. And I like the word colony because
it does it's sort of like an apartment complex, right,
or it's sort of like a little town. But at
the end of the day, these are very important early

(15:20):
season pollinators and I always think of them in an
our part of the country as showing up at about
the same time that we have certain you know, of
the spring ephemerals blooming. It's like spring one of my
favorite names for a flower, spring beauties, And it's as

(15:41):
a matter of fact, there are some saw money bees.
They're very tuned into that particular plant, in that particular flower.
But as far as what would we do about them,
this kind of also connects back to something. You know,
how many times have we talked about about lawns, about
turf grafts, about the suffering from last summer where a

(16:04):
large part of the US had, including Ohio, you know,
had a very serious draft. And so we do have
lawns that have openings in them. Now, these soil mining
bees don't just show up in this spring, you know,
usually they start and then gather over time. But you mentioned,
you know, the botanical garden and zoo. There's also do.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
You know they put that in their their printed ad.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
I did not know that.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
I just caught that the other day that says, you
know that we're celebrating blah blah blah, and our blooms
were so flowery that we actually call ourselves a senciaty
botanical garden and zoo.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
Well it is incredible, it is, and we're and not let's.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
Go ahead, I'm sorry, go ahead, go ahead?

Speaker 2 (16:55):
Yeah, well no, I just want to make sure that
people understand don't spray these and don't even think of
doing that. They're not all grass. Of what you want
to do if they're in your lawn is to work
towards thickening the lawn because they don't like to be
in grasses. They will not be in a healthy lawn.
They'll be in an open area, and so just work

(17:16):
towards that. You know, it's not too late to put
down seed. The plants may not make it through the
you know, the worst time of the year for turf
grass July. In August, however, it will start closing. That
can it be? And you know, run I've actually been
surprised over the years how often spring seating has worked,
and I think it's because we have a lot better

(17:38):
cult of oars than we used to. But back to
the Cincinnati Botanical Garden and the Zoo. You know, for
listeners that in the more southern part of the United
States or northern part of the United States, if you're
passing through Cincinnati, that should be a destination. I've always
said that it really if you are at all interested
in gardening. The Cincinnati I'll set correctly first, the Systnet

(18:02):
Zoo and Botanical Garden should be a stop on your
on your list of places to see. It is celebrating
it's one hundred and fiftieth anniversary, which is which is
hard to believe. And there's also a connection between which
I didn't know this historically, there's a connection between the

(18:23):
Cincinnati now will say it the way that you have invented.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
This botanical.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
And zoo, and I think I still have the picture
of when you unveiled it. The gardens. Yes, yeah, I'm sure,
but it and the director Thing Maynard and others, they're
they're just so proud of. Of course, our good friend

(18:52):
Steve Folts, director of Horta Culture. So I'll tell you
it is an amazing place. And another thing too, is
you The labeling there is wonderful. If people are looking
for annuals perennials, what are you ornamentals? If you're just
you know, wanting to see things that are growing and

(19:14):
in bloom and get some ideas for your onwn landscaping.
Because of the labels, it's a great place to go
see sometimes new introductions too, like for example, I think
they're going to have a begunia that has like butterfly
like flour.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
Joe, come on now, that.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
Was a good ending.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
Yeah, that was great, Joe, Bog's always a pleasure. Website
b y g L dot olwys U dot e edu.
We will talk to you next Saturday.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Have a good week rhyme bye bye, Hey, take.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
Care, Thanks all our college, Thanks very sponsors. Thanks of
course of Danny Gleason, our producer goes. Without Danny Gleeson,
none of the stuff would happen now, Danny, thank you
very much. I really do appreciate what you what you do.
Now do yourself a favor. It's arbor Day, post arbor
Day weekend. Hey, what do you say? Get out? Plant
a tree, grow a tree or two or three, get
the kids in the and everybody involved as well. Keep

(20:12):
planting those native plants, native species, keep planting those pollinator plants.
Be ee friendly in your gardening endeavors. Get the kids
involved by all means, make this the absolute best arbor
Day weekend of your life. See ya

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Farm Gardening Question N has the answers at one eight
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