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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome back. You're in the garden with Ron Wilson, this
time for the Buggy Joe Boggs Report. Who is Joe Boggs?
You say? Joe Boggs is an Assistant Professor, Commercial horder
coach educator for the Ohio State University Extension OSU Department
of Entomology. He is the poster boy for the OSU Extension.
He is co creator of Mathra Coffee Emporium. The website
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is wonderful b y G L dot O s U
dot ed U, Ladies and gentlemen, Mister common Sensical himself Buggy.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Joe Boggs, Man, I that was That was quite a show.
Gary and his trees.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
I like that Gary and his trees? Well you get
love that?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I mean, what a what a fantastic I'm very serious.
You know, we joke around a little bit, but I
thought we do. Man, I can't believe you know, I'm
sure we're probably how about that, I said, you do, Joe,
I didn't know you joked around. Well, I do joke around.
I think a little bit. I don't know. Maybe I'm serious.
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Maybe I'm too serious. What do you guys think?
Speaker 1 (01:17):
I don't think so. Although you can't, although you can
be when necessary.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
When necessary, not often, but when often.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
I do like it.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
No, the point with that Gary's making with the trees
is absolutely right. We talk about it all the time.
And you know, when you see your your utility bills
going up, it just shows you how important these other
factors can be in trying to keep those costs down
for you by maintaining you know, the trees and the
shade and the winter blocks of the wind in the
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wintertime and thing, how how important plants can be.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Well, I'll tell you, and you and I have talked
about this before, and and I'll be honest, I used
to teach about it.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Wait a minute out, you're going to be honest.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I'm getting honest. I'm being honest this time. I have
forgotten this. And eye trees. For on eye trees, I mean,
that's been around for quite some time. And any of
the listeners just go to your computer type in eye trees.
You don't have to even do the that's just eye trees,
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and you'll see this website that comes up that was
I'll developed. I think it was first developed fifteen Well,
oh says right here, since two thousand and six. The
US Force Service, Davy Tree Expert Company, the Arbor Day Foundation,
Urban and Community Forestry Society, our favorite international societal Ore Culture,
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and Casey Trees partnered to produce this, this online evaluation
of why trees mattered. And it's been interesting because years
ago I used, well back when we were talking about
the impact of the loss of ash trees, right, I
think on your on your show, I would run the
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eye trees thing, and you know, for ten ins and
a ten inch ash tree, you know what's going to
be the loss and and that would be maybe helpful
and calculating whether a person should treat the tree or not.
I mean, we're dredging up old times right now. You
know it's it's we would park our model ts and
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talk about this, right I have. But you know what,
I have to tell you what was really interesting as
I was looking at it, because I was looking listening
to you and Gary and thinking, you know, I need
to we need to revisit this because it is a
great tool to it's backed by a lot of great data.
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It's not just made up stuff. But on the other hand,
you know, I really like the way Gary just kind
of distilled it, right, down to one thing to convince
people that trees matter. Well, where do you pitch your
tent when you go camping? And like you run, I've
never understood why I get so dang hot out there
in the middle of that field.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Yeah, and then you wind up sleeping outside. It's like
why did they bring you?
Speaker 2 (04:08):
That's right? Well, and all the you know, all the
insects and then I'll just like identify them as they
bite me. They all come swarming at you. But no,
it's it is. I thought that was just a wonderful
you know, uh, sort of an impact statement to say, well,
you're not going to camp out in the middle of
the field unless you're maybe in Nebraska. Right.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Well, see, and it's interesting the more mature you get,
like Gary's much older than either one of us, those
types of those types of wisdom come to you more wisdom.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
So that's something we look forward to when we get
his age, that we may have that level of wisdom
as well.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I never thought of that ron That is really we're
kind of learning at Gary's knee that yeah, yeah, you know,
he's hitting around the campfire.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
He's like my much older brother.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Or uncle uncle Gary hold forth. Yes, I know, well
that's true. I mean, for Center, for forever we've we've
relied on the wisdom of our elders. You're going to
get in real trouble now, aren't we. Yes. But you
know it is a great topic because when you you know,
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when you are dealing with some of the issues with trees,
and let's face it, you know, with some of the
storms we've had, and you know, things that that that
can cause them to present a challenge. You know, you're right, Ron.
Sometimes you do hear people say, well, you know, I
just don't think it's worth the risk. But at the
end of the day, and and you talk to folks,
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for example, in our neck of the woods, a Hyde Park,
you know, that's an older neighborhood right with a lot
of big trees, and you know, you you talk to
folks there and hear the temperature in their house, whereas
we're where I live where you know, tree Kennethy is
going to take a long time to start shading these houses.
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You know, when you're talking in the middle of an
August hot day, which place would you'd rather be? And
I love what you said that, you know, we do
need to look at our trees first as an asset,
not as a liability. And that's been shown numerous times where.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
The value of of our home values, you know this
ron are directly tied to the landscape around the home,
and so looking at trees as being part of it.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Just like when somebody walks in and loves your decor
loves the painting in the in your the paint in
your house, it's the same thing when they drive up
and there's a nice shade. And and so with that said,
there you know where I'm heading. There's there's actually a
setup here. Because what about a month ago, you know
I talked about this. We updated myself and and Amy
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Stone up dated a fact sheet called how and Why
to Hire an Arborus and it's an Ohio State University
fact sheet and what it does. And one reason we
updated it is because you know, you've had Ron rothis
on and talked about this in the past. You have
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you have arborous with tremendous expertise, but different levels of
expertise based on what we call credentials or what they
call credentials. And so if you take a look at
what the International Society of a Bora Culture offers now
in terms of professional development and recognition. Uh, it's it's
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it's very very important because if you step back and
think about it, a lot of the other professions have
the same thing in different ways. I mean, if you
if you wanted to have you know, something done with
your foot, you probably wouldn't go to an eye, ears
and nose specials, Right, it's the same. That's kind of
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a stretch.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Well, I'm suffering from a sinus detection rod so everything's
kind of focused on my head right now. But at
the end of the day, you know, we do have
these different professional levels. I shouldn't call it that actually,
just as I should just say credentials with the is
a And that's very important because the arbus must have
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take an exam past the exam, and then even more importantly,
they have to maintain a certain number of CEUs with
that credential every year, so they have to keep up
with the training. You know, they have to prove their
professional status and then keep up with the training. And
that's very important when it comes to working with trees,
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and so I try to help people understand that instead
of perceiving, you know, when you call an arbus. Well,
they're going to come take your tree down. I mean,
how if you've heard that, ron, I mean, we still
hear it.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
And their goal is to not take your treat down.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
It is exactly the opposite.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Unless unless it needs to come down, exactly.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
They give a very professional look at it. But here's
what's important, and you said it, you said it earlier.
That is a little bit of maintenance. So the arbus
is your partner in this endeavor obviously, to help maintain
your trees. A little bit of maintenance can go a
long way. I've bought you watched this, I've watched it.
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You know you'll see a visit and and look at
an oak tree before and after, and it's like a
good haircut, which I used to get, you know before
when I had hair, right, a good haircut, you know,
we really starbershop.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
He'd come in while I was in the chair, so
what are you doing here?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yeah, that's right. Yeah, Well I'd always asked him, ask
a Barbara to give me what you know that he
gave you? Could you get that flattops? And he just
looked at me like that ship has sailed? Joe.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah, sorry, Joe, I haven't done that in a long time.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
You know. That is funny. Yeah, that is true. How
long ago? What we're going back?
Speaker 1 (10:18):
My wife reminds me how nice it is without having
a flat top.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
So well, there you go.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah, well, as long as she's happy, I'm happy. Hey,
by the way, before we take a break, as long
before we take a break, Ron Roth sent me this
week he's got another certification under his belt. He's now
a prescription pruning qualification certification, so prescription pruning qualification. He
now has that to add to his list of all
the certification.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
My gosh, I'll tell you well, he's going to have
to go off planet if he gets any more certifications.
I don't think there's anything left on earth, right, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
I mean you and I are certified.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
The certifiable.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
That's right exactly. Thank you, Yeah, thank you very much.
All Right, we'll take a quick break. We come back
more with Buggy Joe Boggs here in the garden with Ron.
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Speaker 1 (12:30):
Welcome back here in the Garden with Ron Wilson. Time
for Part two with the Buggy Joe Bonds. Before Joe bodes.
Oh is your extension first? Their website is byg L
dot Osu Buggy Joe. I don't know if you saw
Rida's recipe or not, but it's right up your alley.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
I did not.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
What is it? It's a pork tenderloin smothered smothered in
sage and preshudo.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Oh that is You're right. Throw a little squirrel in there,
and you got something.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
That's got I tell you what that's got to override
squirrel brains and gravy.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Well, I don't know if you've got some good biscuits, Rod,
I mean, I'm starting to get a little hungry right now.
We talk about it. Cadeah, oh yes, cathead biscuits. Boy,
I'll tell you. I don't know. You know, you know
if anybody just flipped the radio and they're going to
be taking them, what are these guys off of? These
guys who are garden people? What are we talking about?
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We're talking about important stuff, aren't we. That's exactly right,
let me tell you, And we eat pretty good out
of the garden. How'd you like that? So I took
off because you know, Gary got me so fired up.
You're all just you You're discussion about trees. So what
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were you going to talk about today? What were we going.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
To cover camping? And you don't pitch a tent in
the middle of the field.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Or in the middle of a river.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Yeah, I learned that. Let's see, I did learn that.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
I was going to talk about a couple of things.
I actually had the purse, like leaf structures on hydrangees.
I actually had a couple of those pictures email to
me this week.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Isn't that something?
Speaker 1 (14:21):
And someone did that so I was able to just
return your byg L bulletin and back to them to explain.
Tom also had a bunch of poison hemlock questions. Just
so I went back to twenty twenty four and reprinted
that beagle because that's a big one. It's about five.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Hundred but yes it is. Well now we have it
in you know, in gold leaf. Yeah, so you know
printed that way. Yes, it's a doorstop if you don't
want to have it on your shelf.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
It's a thick one, but it's got lots of information.
But I've also been sitting that one out as well
well for information because a poison luck finally starting to
not finally, but really starting to show flowers now and
you can.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Yeah see it. Yeah, well i'll tell you. I got stumped. Well,
I got stumped twice. You stumped me.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
I don't I don't mean to stop if I if
I send it to you, I'm stumped you.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
So you sent me a picture and yeah, you sent
me a picture of a strange structure on was that?
Was that a Christmas cactus? What was that? Uh blue holly?
I don't did you figure? I mean, I I'm like you,
It's like when I looked at it, it's like I
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think I know when I'm looking, but I wasn't sure.
Did you work that out? I described the listeners what's happening?
Speaker 1 (15:48):
I I know because I had that. I had somebody
send me something a picture of that similar situation, I
don't know, probably five or six years ago. Yeah, and
I did. I couldn't find anything on And finally I
found some discussion about some possibly uh issues with a
flower that it did something that you know, they oh,
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that it was possibly involved with the flower. But other
than that, I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Well what we're talking about for folks that so we're
in a holly here and it's a it's just like
a brown, massive material that that doesn't look like it
just I mean, it didn't look to me like it
fell off the plant. No, what I guess you're yeah,
it looked like it was put there.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
And so now one thing, if it's further you know,
if it's further down in the plant. Sometimes we have
different species of ants, particularly in the more southern part
of the United States, that can make little structures. But
you know, it's a I tell you, Ron, I hate
to say it. At our age. You know, we have
sifted through so much over the years, and let's face it,
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you know that's good experience. I think we have a
good experience. The downside is, you know, sometimes the the
neuron that where that information was kept got replaced by
by highlights from the OSU National Championship.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
That makes sense, I say, my memory is like a rolodex.
You got to go through looking at these index cards,
you know, and somehow they get one of that one
got tossed out.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Well, you're not going to believe this. This is like
the classic. This was simply a classic, and I should
have there should have been a slam dunker. So this
past week I got a picture of somebody, somebody, I mean,
actually some very nice pictures of mint with some type
of a weird sort of black you know, infection on
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the leaf looked like, you know, some type of fungal
black you know, sunken areas. Oh, it looked awful. I mean,
you wouldn't want to put, you know, make a mint
jewlip out of that. And man, I tell you, ron,
I looked at it and looked at it, and you know,
whatever was going on there, it obviously was in that
other neuron. When Ohio State you know, won the previous championships,
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they got knocked off, you know, and I honestly, truly
I looked at that for like, you know, and then
all of a sudden, oh, four line plant bug, right,
I talked about this. Oh yeah, yeah, So unfortunately we're
when I the last I looked, which was earlier this week,
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that long ago, a lot adults of adults out there.
So the four line plant bug, the name just really
describes it. It has four black lines and three yellow
lines going down it's back, and you can it's a
very fast little insect and you can find on a
lot of different things. But the mint, you know, that's
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like the classic isn't it. They just they look you know,
but it only has one generation per year. And the
reason it looked like a disease is these insects have
piercing sucking mouthparts, but they inject enzymes to dissolve plant
cells and then they use their mouth parts like soda
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straws to suck up the contents of the plant cells,
and so you get these darkened patches. I mean, it
really does look like a fungal infection or bacterial infection leaves,
but it's plant bug damage. And as I said, the
downside is there's only one generation per year, and it's
probably upside too. We're getting close to coming. Yeah, we're
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getting close to coming to the end of the season
for them. So yes, I got it stumped twice.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
And they wear a didas so they are fast when
they're moving on that plant, so they're hard to spray.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Even they are they are very fast. I like that.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Joe, Bog's always a pleasure, great information. We'll talk to
you next Saturday.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
You have a great week, Ron take care of my.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
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