April 23, 2025 • 35 mins
Art Del Cueto is the vice-president and spokesperson for the National Border Control Council, as well as Border Security Advisor for FAIR (Federation for American Immigration Reform). He joins Weld County Sheriff Steve Reams (in for Dan) with an update on the implementation and effectiveness of President Trump's border policies.
Rep. Gabe Evans (R, CO-8) has to keep his head on a swivel in the halls of Congress, as Democrats continue trying to undermine the Trump agenda. He provides his latest perspective from Washington for listeners and constituents.
Rep. Gabe Evans (R, CO-8) has to keep his head on a swivel in the halls of Congress, as Democrats continue trying to undermine the Trump agenda. He provides his latest perspective from Washington for listeners and constituents.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Dan Capless and welcome to today's online podcast
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Welcome back to The Dan Caplis Show, being guest hosted
by Weldkenny Shriff Steve Roims. This is day three of
my hosting gig, and the last day of my hosting
gig this particular go around, and hopefully I'll have his
chance in the future. Dan's a busy guy and I
know he's going to be in court a bunch in
some upcoming weeks and months, So hopefully I'll be back
on the air with you sometime in the near future.
(00:36):
But I'm sure you're all waiting to hear Dan back soon. Unfortunately,
he won't be here the rest of the week, so
tomorrow you'll have a different guest host for Thursday and Friday,
and I'll leave that to Ryan and the rest of
the folks to introduce who that person is going to
be coming up tomorrow. But for today, we've got a
jam packed schedule, and of course I packed the schedule
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as full as I could on a day that Ryan
is definitely working single handedly behind the glass. So he's
going to be as busy as he's as he can
possibly be. But he's a man of many talents. I
know we're going to make this work. Over the last
few days, I've brought up several topics. Hopefully you've been listening.
On Monday, we talked a lot about illegal immigration and
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kind of how that impacts your life where you stand.
Are you part of the fifty six percent of America
that says deport them all? Most of you that called
in or texted in are definitely in that boat. In fact,
I think all of you that called in, we're in
that boat. We also talked yesterday about crime in Colorado.
Do you feel safer today than you did a year ago?
Or where you do you? Did you feel much better
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a few years back before all these liberal policies started
kicking in, And again, I think most of you agree
that Colorado's on a path to destruction. We're going in
the wrong direction, and that's happening under Democrat leadership. Today,
We're going to try to wrap all that up together
and say, all right, Colorado's definitely gone to the to
the blue side. We're a hardcore blue state. We can
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call ourselves a purple state. So is there a chance
at getting back to purple? Is there a chance at
getting back to red? And we've talked about the premier candidates,
if you will, on the Democrat side for governor, those
being Phil Wiser and Michael Bennett, and neither one of
those folks being real high on my agenda by any
sense of the word for a governor's seat. But we
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also have Jenna Griswold who's running apparently for attorney general,
which is shocking to me. I didn't know she had
gone to law school. I wasn't even sure she had
graduated from high school. But all that being said, she
seems to be the candidate for that particular seat. So again,
in an upcoming election cycle twenty twenty six, where we
have a chance at maybe starting to chip away at
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the state and maybe steal a couple of those seats,
the governor seat, the attorney general seat, those definitely are
ones that I think we should be targeting as a state.
So what I'd like to ask all you guys that
are listening and are willing to call in, is where
do you think we can make the biggest Can we
make the biggest leap. Do we have a chance of
pulling that governor seat back? Do we have a chance
at pulling any of those seats back? Secretary of State,
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Attorney General, that Senate seat, that hicken Looper's holding on
to the treasure seat, any of them. Do you have
a candidate in mind that you think, all right, this
is the person who could be the dark horse. This
is a person that could take it back that governor
seat as well. For the Republicans, you can text in
at five seven, seven thirty nine or call in at
three zho three seven to one, three eight two five five.
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We're gonna have a wide variety of folks coming on
the show today. We're, like I said, we're gonna have
a jam pack schedule. A lot of you people, a
lot of you will under you'll know some of these
these characters that we're bringing in. Our first guest up
after this first break will be a gentleman by the
name of Art del Cueto. Art's pretty nationally known on
Fox News and other premier news stations. He is a
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he's a big time border security guy. He works for
Fair the Federation of American Immigration Reform, but he's most
known for his career with Border Patrol and as the
vice president and spokesperson for the National Border Patrol Council.
Like I said, he'll be with us in that second segment,
right around four to twenty. We're also going to have
Congressman Gabe Evans from CED eight. He goes without much introduction.
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He's made quite a splash in his time out in
Congress and probably well known on these airwaves. He's got
a lot to educate us about about his efforts out
in Congress and some of the tax he's already starting
to get only four months into his tenure as the
newly minted CD eight Congressman. After the break, we'll have
Britta horn In or in the second hour, we'll have
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Britta horn In, the new Colorado State Republican Chairwoman. She's
going to stay with us for quite a while. Again
in studio, we'll ask her a lot of questions and
kind of figure out does she believe if any of
these seats can be taken back, and what are the
strategies for doing so. Obviously, you know she's got to
be supportive of all candidates, but we have to all
be rowing in the right direction to try to at
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the Republican Party moving and hopefully in a winning position
where we haven't been for quite some time. And then
we're also going to bring in Sheriff Alan Cooper from
Fremont County. A lot of you have heard about an
arrest that was made over in Fremont of some individuals
that were coming back from Utah believed to be illegal immigrants,
and they were carrying a vast amount of AMMO with them,
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or hauling a vast amount of AMMO with them. Obviously
they weren't legal residents, and so some questions abound about
why did they travel to Utah to buy AMMO? Where
were they taking it? And Sheriff Cooper's going to educate
us on that incident and kind of where that case
is going. But in the meantime, again, please send your
text in five seven, seven three nine. Start your text
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out with Dan. Also, you can call in at three
oh three seven one three eight two five five. Like
I said, we're gonna have a jam pack show, So
I don't know how many calls we'll get to, but
if you're willing to wait, we'll try to squeeze in
wherever we can. I already have a couple of texts here.
First one is from Alexa, very loyal listener of the show.
She says, Sheriff frames, if you can let the listeners know.
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The pro police Rally is holding the tenth Anniel law
excuse me, Law Enforcement Appreciation Day on Sunday on April
twenty seventh, from three to six pm at the Douglas
County Fairgrounds. It's going to be a great time, she believed.
Jimmy Singenberger will be performing. I know that event's happened
for quite some time. I attended one that was down
in Denver that got a little ugly when Antifa and
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others tried to attack. In fact, they came after Michelle Malkin,
and I ended up being the person who evacuated her
from that particular event so that she wouldn't get we'll
just say damaged. So hopefully this rally and Douglas County
will be a little bit more supported the environment. There
is a little more pro police as the rally is
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intended to be, and we don't have the summer of
craziness in twenty twenty like we did back then during
the COVID and George Floyd Era. So I think that'll
be a good event down Douglas County. I've attended that
one as well a couple of times. So again, that's
on four to twenty seven, from three to six pm
at the Douglas County Fairgrounds. According to Alexa, if that
information is wrong, you can text her and let her know.
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But so that we can get to our first guest,
I do want to cut to the break just a
little bit early. Again, feel free to send in those
texts five seven, seven, three nine. Start them out with Dan.
You know the drill we're looking to see. Do you
have candidates that can run for any of these seats
Secretary of State, Attorney General, treasurer, governor state or US
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Senator who can win that seat from the Republican side?
How can we create a slate of candidates? And that's
not to say that we don't already have the right
governor's candidate in the race. There's several announced. But if
if you've got a different idea, text it in and
the call line is also three O three seven one
three eight two five five. We'll cut to a break.
Can we come back. We'll have Art del Queto on
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with us, and you're listening to the Dankplas Show here
with Steve Reams as your guest host on six thirty
K how.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
And now back to the dan Kamplas Show podcast. Welcome
back to the.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Dan Kapla Show being hosted today by Well County Sheriff
Steve Reims. And what's us on the hotline? As I
said before we went to break is art del quoto art?
How you doing? I'm good, I'm doing great art. If
you would tell the listeners a little bit about your
background with Border Patrol and with the National Border Patrol Council,
just to set the stage a little bit in your
current role with the Federation for American Immigration.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Reform of course. So I started with Borrow back in
two thousand and three. So, and I just recently retired
in December of this last year. I've been working the
line for quite some time. I never was in management.
I never did the desk two d's. I was just
always out there on that line, working on the Tohuna
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Autumn Reservation, which is the Native American reservation along the
US Mexico border. So, and that reservation, it's more or
less a little bit over sixty linear miles with Mexico.
It's the main corridor for drugs entering the country and
it has been like that for decades. And then I've
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been working obviously with the National Board of PROCASSO with
the local union. It's a union right for the lack
of a better word, And what I tell people is
the difference between that union and other unions is we
bargain for the rights of the law enforcement agents. We
don't strike based on pay or anything like that. So
in that position, I've been lucky enough to work with
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various organizations. We work with various different administrations, obviously the
current administration being the best one we've ever had to
work with, and we worked with them back in twenty sixteen.
And because of that, I had the opportunity to work
various times with FAIR, the Federation of American Immigration Reform.
I would constantly be a stapop in Washington, DC during
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their feet to the Fire events. And you know, I
retired from the Agents, I stayed on with the Border
Patrol Council, which the union, and then obviously now I
picked up a fantastic spot with Federation for American Immigration
Reform helping them as an advisor to the issues on
the border, immigration and everything else. But I've been I've
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been in Arizona task for everybody, yes, sir, you know
decades with the Border Patrol. Prior to that, I worked
with the States as one of the gang Unit officers
for the State of Arizona, right, And even prior to that,
I did a couple of years as a Wildlin firefighter.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Well, and the way that you and I got to
know each other was through fair a few months back, yourself,
Mark Lamb and I were up on Capitol Hill trying
to lobby some of the congressmen and senators up there.
We all kind of traveled around Capitol Hill there together.
And I'll set the stage just a little bit because
one of our first meetings was to go meet with
Colorado Senator Michael Bennett. And when we were going to
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that office, I told you and Mark, I said, we're
not going to get to meet the senator. We're going
to get some staffer. I said, we'll be lucky if
we get as janitor. Because that was about the fourth
or fifth time that I had been scheduled to go
meet with with Michael Bennett sometime in the last few years.
Through fair, and it played out just that way. We
walk in and we get a staffer. But I want
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you to back me up here. When we walked into
the office, there was a former state senator from Colorado
and there by the name of Alec Garnett, and he
and I had a pretty lively exchange over the red
Flag bill that he helped pass in the state of Colorado.
Give me your impression of that exchange.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Well, first of all, you called it exactly like like
it was, and I'll give you what I'll tell you
what man hats off to YouTube. Not only did you
call it, not only was it like you said, but
you let them know. Uh that's that was. What was
fantastic that you're letting out leaving out is when we
went in there and actually sat down, you told him.
I knew this is the way it was going to
pat out because I've been trying to meet with this
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individual for quite some time. He always, you know, sends
somebody else. But when we were out there, it was
a very eloquently put by you. You know, it was
a lively exchange.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
But I think at the end, uh uh, we agreed
to disagree conversation.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
You agreed to disagree, but uh, I don't think he
had an answer for you.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
No, he didn't. We were talking about we were talking
about how red flag laws are, in my opinion, unconstitutional,
and uh, they're they're they're not good for the state
of Colorado.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
But any common sense person would would agree with you.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
And you're a very common sense person. A common sense person. Yes.
So in our travels around d C, it was pretty
obvious this was a this was a red blue issue.
You know, most of the most of the Republican congressman
and senators were more than happy to meet with us.
Most of the Democrats were not the only credit I
would give. And maybe you, maybe you would agree with this.
Mark Kelly's staff. While he didn't meet with a senator
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Mark Kelly out of Arizona, he did provide staff that
seemed very engaged and knowledgeable about the about the issues
that we were there to talk about. You do you
agree with that?
Speaker 4 (12:59):
I mean, look, there's some that will sit there and
agree with you, and it's it's it's funny because I
talked to us, I've been dealing with this for quite
some time with the different you know, politicians, and when
what I've seen and I didn't really realize this as
much as I do now. Is their staffers, you would
think that, you know, if he's a left leaning politician,
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he's just going to hire left leading staffers or vice versa.
Not necessarily like that.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Yeah, No, it.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Isn't necessarily like that, which I don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I think.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
I think it would be difficult for me to be
a staffer for somebody that I don't agree with on
ninety percent of the issues. Yeah, but I respect those
that can do it.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Yeah. I think you you lined it out right there.
With Mark Kelly's staff, I don't think they necessarily all
aligned with him politically, but otherwise it seemed like everybody
we met with they were If they were Republican, they
were very supportive of building the wall, funding border patrol.
If they were Democrat, they were a little wishy washy
on it. And then if if it was Michael Bennett's office,
we got one just above the janitor in my opinion,
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just a bit.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
But I think it was informative. Look, it was it
was good to be out there with to talk. I
think it's fantastic with fair continues to do. They've been
doing it for quite some time, Like I said, I've
been very fortunate to work with them when I was
doing the Feat to the Fire. I mean, it was
just a fantastic event that they would put on each
and every year. And they continue to move forward, they
continue to try to get things done right and you know,
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and inform the people, informed our politicians in their lawmakers
the right way. I'm extremely happy to be on with them,
to be honest. It's like I said, I've worked with
them for such a long time and it was fantastic
to work with them before. Now I'm working even more
so and more closely with them, and it's just it's
a great organization.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yeah. So you know, in your in your work out there,
you know in your interactions with this new administration, you know,
you've got a lot of years on with border patrol.
You were talking about that first term of Donald Trump,
how that was one of the better ones that you've
ever been with. But how much better is it right
now for the border patrol agent that's on the border,
And how much different or how much are we stopping
at the border that we were just letting straight on through.
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When I say we as a nation, we're just letting
straight on through. Five short months ago. How big of
a dichotomy and change are you seeing down there on
the border.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Well, well, I think what makes it even a bigger difference,
right is we had a great position with President Trump
the first time that he was in office. We had
the support, We knew what was going on. We had
that open door policy with the White House. We were
able to to you know, go back and forth and
explain everything, and it was great. I mean it was
really great.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
But when he left.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Office and the new administration came on, and I'm talking
about the Biden administration, it was such a one to eighty.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
It was.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
It was devastating to the agents. Sure, it was devastating
to the country. So because it was I mean.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
You hit rock bottom.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
That's where we were at.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
I mean, I hate to say it that badly, but
we had hit rock bottom when we were arresting individuals
that they knew they were breaking the law, and when
they when you arrested them, they would look at you
and they they would flat out tell you there's nothing
you can do. Yeah, And so that was that's rockbot
as a law enforcement off as when you're arresting people
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for drugs for you know, after vehicle stops where they
lead you on vehicle chases and they finally stop and
they look right at you.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Said, there's nothing.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
That's the most demoralizing thing you can go. Absolutely, So
we hit rock bottom. And now with President Trump back
in office, day one, man, it was like a flip
of a switch. Another one eighty twice over. Man, let
me tell you because the numbers stopped coming across. I
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tell these there to a lot of individuals.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
It was it was rhetoric alone. Immigration laws still haven't
been changed. Remember that it changed the laws. It was
the rhetoric, and it was the policy and procedure where
you're saying, okay, now if you come across, you're going
to get detanged. You're not just gonna get released. You're
going to have to prove your case. If you're gonna
claim asylum. You can still claim asylum. The difference is
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you have to prove that you actually have an asylum
creer right, right. You can't just make that blanket statement
and get released. So those are the things that you've
seen changing now because of that policy. And I remember
I just said you can still claim asylum. But all
of a sudden, the numbers dropped and no one's asking
for asylum, So I might believed that President Trump fixed
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all the problems in the entire world because people aren't
sing asylum, right.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Yeah, kind of strange. How just a little policy change
does that? Well, Art, I appreciate your perspective. We had
a hard break here, but thanks for jumping on with us.
I know you got a lot of important stuff in
the queue, so we'll let you get back to that.
But Art Ncuato, thanks for being on with us and
representing FAIR the Federation for American Immigration Reform. You listen
to the Dan Capla Show with guest host Steve Raims
filling out We're here on six thirty k how.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Welcome back to the dankapless Show. You got well, Kenny
Sheriff Steve Reims setting in on the driver's seat for
the last day of three here that I'm covering Dan's
show and uh with us here. Shortly we'll be Congressman
Gabe Evans. We're just waiting for him to call in.
But in the in the meantime, if you want to
send in a text that that numbers five, seven, seven,
three nine, just start your text out with Dan or
in the next break. We'll also take some calls, which
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is three oh three seven one three eight two five five,
And I believe we have Congressman Evans on the phone
with us right now.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Congressman Evans sure, good to be on with you.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Hey, Thanks Gabe, It's nice to hear from you. And
before we even start this, I want to I want
to have a little Mia Kalpa moment with the with
the audience because a couple of a couple of years back,
when you decided you were going to get in this race,
you called and you were calling several people, and you
called me at home and said, what do you think
about me jumping into CD eight? And I got to
tell you I was not very encouraging, not because I
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didn't think you'd make a good congressman, but I just
I love the work that you were doing down at
the State House. You'd only been there for a little while,
and I wanted to see you stay down there as
long as possible because that's what impacts me most directly.
You're a pro police guy, and I thought, well, give
him a couple more years down there, and then he'll
really be able to make that shift, so I wasn't
very encouraging. I apologize for that, but you definitely proved
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me wrong. You won that seat back and you and
I think you'll keep defending that seat. So I wanted
to expose that in front of all the listeners out there,
that I wasn't very helpful to your initial run. But
I'm so glad you're there now. So that sets the
stage and Congressman Evans, tell us what you're doing out
in DC, tell us the work you're doing. And I
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know it's a mighty push right now.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
Well, Sheriff, I mean, I remember that conversation too, and
I guess maybe I'm stubborn and remembered it differently because
one of the things that you specifically told me there
was you know what gave Sometimes you got to go.
You got to go to war with the soldiers that
you have, not the soldiers you wish you had. And
so for me, I took that as play the hand
your dealt, not the hand you wish you had, And
the hand that we were dealt here in Colorado is,
oh my word. We need to get some balance back
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in the state. We need to get some of these
just insane leftist Democrats voted out of office because of
the lunatic things that they're doing. And so that's the
work that I'm trying to do in Washington, d C.
I think we all know that Colorado is a sanctuary state,
that Denver has doubled down on being a sanctuary city.
Of my line of questioning that Denver Mayor Mike Johnson,
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when he came before the House Oversight Committee, I waived
on basically means I got permission from the committee chair
to sub on, and I asked him, you know, Mayor,
you and the governor in Colorado all the time say
that you're totally willing to work with federal authorities to
get illegal immigrants who are committing other crimes drug dealers, clark,
the bank robbers, things like that. You're totally willing to
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work with the Feds to get these folks out of
our community. And I don't buy that because as a
cop for ten years, I know that when you arrest somebody,
you have to go fill out the standard FBI fingerprint card,
which asks the citizenship of the individual that was arrested.
And so Denver Mayor, do you allow your officers to
fill out the citizenship block and the standard FBI fingerprint
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card when you arrest somebody for other And of course
the answer was no, because Colorado and Denver have doubled
down on policies that prevent police from being able to
collect that information. And so then the immediate response was, well,
then if you can't even identify the people that are
illegally present in your community committing crimes, how in the
world are you going to work with the Feds to
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get them out of the community. And so that's some
of the work that I'm doing in Washington. Reduced the
Uplift Act unhandcuffing police to locate and interdict foreign transgressors, which,
among other things, pushes back on these insane sanctuary city
and state laws that Denver crafts. In Colorado continue to
double down on.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
You mean, like two seventy six that they're pushing through
right now.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
That is the latest in a long laundry list of
sanctuary state bills. Two seventy six, of course, expands even
further the places where Colorado won't allow people to work
with Immigration and Customs and other federal authorities to get
violent criminals out of our communities. Share if you run
a jail where do you think if you've got a
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drug dealer that's illegally present in our community, where do
you think that arrests should take place. Should I be
able to go get that person out of a jail
in a controlled setting, or should that person have to
go out into the community to try to apprehend a
combative and potentially armed individual.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Well, I think that's a pretty obvious question, and I'm
glad you're getting to play the interviewer, But yes, they
should be able to come into my jail or any
other jail and do that. And I will say that
there are some there are some ways to work with
ice that are a little unconventional even with some of
the laws that have been passed. But two seventy six
would stop that ability as well. So here you're on
point with your Uplift Act. What effect would that have
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directly on the state of Colorado and kind of what
would that How would that intertwine with something like two
seventy six or a House Bill eleven twenty four.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
Yes, So one of the things that the Uplift Act
acknowledges is that under the Constitution Supreme Law of the
United States, the federal government has authority in things like
providing for the common defense, establishing justice. Those are in
the Preamble to the Constitution, and then under Article six
of the Constitution, any laws federal laws made in an
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accordance with the Constitution or the supreme law of the land.
And so when you have states like Colorado that are
going rogue, literally trying to protect Ms thirteen gang members,
trendy Aragua gang members, drug dealers, people that are committing
violent crimes in our community, and they're protecting those people
by prohibiting state and local law enforcement from working with
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the federal governments. Well, what the Uplift Act does is
supersede all of that stuff by extending effectively immunity to
any state and local law enforcement officers that choose to
work with the federal government. And then if the state
tries to go after those officers for violating state law,
the officers are actually indemnified by the federal government. And
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so the federal government there is a defendant who will
protect those officers state and local officers if the state
tries for them by indemnifying them with the full weight
and authority of the federal government.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Man that would be a very welcome thing for probably
every law enforcement line officer in the state of Colorado,
and just about every law enforcement leader, if you could
get them to be honest. Now, city councils and whatnot
may not agree, but those of us that are out
enforcing the law would definitely welcome something like that. And
we just have a little bit of time left. I
know you have a couple of other bills that you've
gotten through committee. They might even have some bipartisan support.
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Can you tell us a little bit about those.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
Yeah, so I've got actually introduced six bills in Congress already.
Five of them are bipartisan, the Uplift Uplift Act. Of course,
you know Democrats can get one, which is a shame.
Colorado's number two in the nation for teenagers dying from
fentanyl overdoses and other illegal drugs. So clearly a problem.
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Too bad that Dems don't actually want to take care
of our communities. But the other five bills that I've
introduced bipartisan bills. Three of them have actually passed out
of committee already. They include things like transnational oppression. Fancy
way of saying, if you have folks from China or
Iran or Russia that have come to the United States
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for the freedom that the United States offers, and the
secret polices of those oppressive regimes are still trying to
oppress people, you know, part of their immigrant community in
the United States. I've got a bill come into the
House floor that gives state and local law enforcement more
tools and outreach to those immigrant communities to make sure
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that you know, we saw the news a couple of
years ago about how the Chinese were running a secret
police department to go and you know, intimidate Chinese folks
fleeing China and they're oppressing them in the United States.
So it cracked down on that. There's also some bills
around trying to permitting for a rural broadband access that
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broadband access has to go through federal lands.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Okay, so kind of covering the gamut there. Well, Congressman Evans,
I know your time is valuable, but we really appreciate
having you on again. I couldn't be more proud to
have you representing CD eight. I know you've got a
couple of people on the other side of the aisle
that are already stepped in to challenge you. So if
the listeners want to get out there and get their
support behind you donate to your cause. What's the best
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way they can they can do that.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
Yeah, So the website is Electgabevans dot com. You can
go visit that website that's got some more information. Electgabevans
dot com. And then if you need any help on
the official side with any you know, any federal agencies,
i RS, veterans issues, anything like that, passports, you can
visit Gabevans dot house dot gov to ease right next
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to each other. Gaveevans dot house dot gov.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Awesome. Thank you again for being on the show. You've
been You've been a breath of fresh air for CD
eight and can't wait to see you get reelected seat.
It's hard to believe we're talking reelection only four months
into your your first term here, but unfortunately that's the
way Congress works. So again, thanks for having thanks for
being on with us, and enjoy the fight out there.
Speaker 5 (27:35):
Appreciated Sheriff, and like I said, I actually took what
you told me as an inspiration to just fight hard
or so appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
All right, thank you. That was Congressman gave Evans with
us here on the Dan Kaplas Show. We'll cut to
a break you're listening to again to the Dankaplas Show
with Well, Kenny Sheriff Steve Raims's guest host on six
point thirty k how.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Welcome back to the Dan caplesh Show with Well kind
of sure if Steve Reams setting in for the third
day in a row here, third and last day of
this week. It's been a pleasure to be with everybody
for these three days. And man, that first hour goes
by so fast. Ryan, you always talk about the fastest
couple of hours in radio, but man, it's a blinding fast.
Having said all that, when I was driving down here,
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it wasn't blinding fast. And I was having a rant
while I was sitting in traffic, and I was listening
to your rant about sports and different mascots for different
sports teams, and you were talking about you want something
that's mighty and it represents you know, strength, and something
along those lines. And it came to my brain that
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where I grew up in Amarillo, Texas, they have a
baseball team and you'll never guess the name or the
mascot for that baseball team.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
What was the town where it hails from Amarillo, Texas.
Speaker 6 (28:51):
Amarillo Amarillos sod poodles, sod poodles.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
You know what a sod poodle is?
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Reference to sod as in grass.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Yes, okay, and poodle as in dog.
Speaker 6 (29:04):
Right, So their fur looks like sod. I'm not following this.
One supposed to be a prairie dog. I guess that's like.
So there are a lot of those around Amorello, Texas poodle.
I don't know how they got to the name sod poodle.
I don't live down there anymore that that team came
along after I left. If you miss them, there's a
whole bunch of them at the Cherry Creek Reservoir that
I see all the time.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
When you speak of missing them, are you talking about
it through target practice?
Speaker 3 (29:29):
They do carry a lot of diseases. Yeah, careful with your.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Dogs around them. So I have a little acreage out
east in Weld County and we have self erecting targets.
We don't have sod poodles.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Oh yeah, you don't have to pay for them or anything.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Unfortunately, they they reproduce much faster than what I can
buy ammo.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
As they really do, and they burrow and they ruin nasty.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Uh, They're just nasty. Anyways, I don't know how I
got on that topic other than while I was ranting
about traffic, you were ranting about sports teams. I just thought,
you know, I got to tie that in somehow.
Speaker 6 (30:02):
Team names Amarillo the as.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
I gotta look up that logo. Yeah, it's it's a classic.
Let me tell you it strikes fear in the hearts
of their opponents. I'm quite certain. Anyways, Having said all that,
I asked you guys during the show if you would,
you know, text in some ideas about who you thought
could run for particular offices. Do you think that do
you think that the state can come back on the
on the red side? Can we at least get it
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to purple? A couple of texts have come in. One
here says, I'm a retired l e O from Fort
Collins and Windsor. Always appreciated the bond schedule and sentencing
coming out of the of the Weld County courts. Any
chance we could get an AG candidate from Weld and
the The district Attorney in Weld County is pretty well respected.
His name is Michael Rourke. He's a no nonsense kind
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of guy. He took over after ken Buck left to
go to Congress. Michael and I have a very good
working relationship, mostly because he prosecutes the heck out of
offenders and isn't big on plea bargains. For the most part,
they're a natural part of having to run an office.
But he goes after the bad guys to the degree
that he can with the current system we have in
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Colorado for the judicial process, I don't know. He'd probably
be a pretty reluctant AG candidate, but you could definitely
give his office a call text and let him know
you think that would be a great idea. And I
will also share this information with him when I talk
to him next. Another text here from Kimberly, she says,
I think that Colorado can be shifted, but not without
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concessions from Republicans. More socially speaking, stick to the Second Amendment,
gas and oil, civil liberties from a libertarian view, I'm
sure that's talking about kids and schools and those kinds
of things. And then there is a chance, and I agree,
I think it's a long shot to bring Colorado back,
especially all in one fell swoop. I think if you've
got four or five good candidates running statewide, you got
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a chance at maybe picking up you know, one or
two seats. Maybe not, but at least, you know, being
competitive in those seats, which we haven't necessarily been. You know,
we've got four or five announced governor's candidates, and I
don't know that we've got any real strong candidates for
any of the other seats that have announced.
Speaker 6 (32:11):
But I would add to Kimberley's list there to Steve,
which you mentioned Second Amendment, love it because of the
attack on our second am right that you and I
have discussed.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Gas and oil's big here.
Speaker 6 (32:20):
Civil liberty, sure, but I would add those eighty twenty
issues of illegal immigration which have struck us hard here
in Colorado. Crimes for certain, for certain from your perspective,
but parental rights which are on your assault here in
Colorado too.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
I think that's an eighty twenty issue.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Yeah, and that's getting national coverage. Right. Like all of
those issues, we're bad on all of them. You know,
when Art del Cuato is on, you know he's talking about,
you know, how different the border is. But something we
talk about when I go out with fairs. Every state
is a border state now and that's not by accident.
You know, four years of Joe Biden, eleven million illegals
coming across the border. Every state is a border state,
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and I think you can win with you know, focusing
on that on that issue in Colorado if it's framed correctly,
because as we saw from the Texters yesterday and the
day before, there's plenty of folks that are not feeling
safe in Colorado and there's definitely a large person whoe assist. Yeah,
we're on the right track when it comes to dealing
with illegal immigration.
Speaker 6 (33:15):
Well, it's really burning me too on that. I know
a lot of our listeners as well. Joe Biden, as
you pointed out, Sheriff he let all of these illegals
flood across the border, no vetting, no asylum hearings, just
pouring in. But we have to go through a deportation
process and hearing for every single one of them.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Come on, how are you going to run eleven million
people through a court process? I mean, so, you know,
we don't even have enough of a court system to
prosecute every offender that is here in the United States
that we catch, and now we're going to add eleven
million illegals to it. I mean, there's a reason that
they use civil immigration detainers and not criminal immigration detainers
because it does give them another method. When I say
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them ice, the punishment for that civil infraction is deportation.
They're not sending them to jail. It's not a criminal charge.
They're just saying, go back to where you came from.
We're not holding you away from the country that you
came from. We're just helping you get back there because
you're not welcome here. You know that never gets talked
about in the news. It is a civil immigration detainer
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because they're not being locked up in our country. They're
being sent home. That is the punishment. It seems so rational,
But yet again, you know who am I to speak
rational when we're talking about policies that Democrats fight back
on every day.
Speaker 6 (34:29):
And it's like Art said earlier, you don't have a
right to asylum here. Your claim might not even be legitimate. Absolutely,
we need to narrow that down.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Yeah, absolutely, Well, coming back after break, we're going to
have a quick guest on to talk about the wolf
issue that we voted into the state of Colorado. Just
a couple of minutes with that, but that'll be at
the top of the next segment, And you're listening to
the Dan Cafleis Show right here, with Well County Sheriff
Steve Rains filling in his guest host. On six point
thirty k out
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Welcome back to The Dan Caplis Show, being guest hosted
by Weldkenny Shriff Steve Roims. This is day three of
my hosting gig, and the last day of my hosting
gig this particular go around, and hopefully I'll have his
chance in the future. Dan's a busy guy and I
know he's going to be in court a bunch in
some upcoming weeks and months, So hopefully I'll be back
on the air with you sometime in the near future.
(00:36):
But I'm sure you're all waiting to hear Dan back soon. Unfortunately,
he won't be here the rest of the week, so
tomorrow you'll have a different guest host for Thursday and Friday,
and I'll leave that to Ryan and the rest of
the folks to introduce who that person is going to
be coming up tomorrow. But for today, we've got a
jam packed schedule, and of course I packed the schedule
(00:56):
as full as I could on a day that Ryan
is definitely working single handedly behind the glass. So he's
going to be as busy as he's as he can
possibly be. But he's a man of many talents. I
know we're going to make this work. Over the last
few days, I've brought up several topics. Hopefully you've been listening.
On Monday, we talked a lot about illegal immigration and
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kind of how that impacts your life where you stand.
Are you part of the fifty six percent of America
that says deport them all? Most of you that called
in or texted in are definitely in that boat. In fact,
I think all of you that called in, we're in
that boat. We also talked yesterday about crime in Colorado.
Do you feel safer today than you did a year ago?
Or where you do you? Did you feel much better
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a few years back before all these liberal policies started
kicking in, And again, I think most of you agree
that Colorado's on a path to destruction. We're going in
the wrong direction, and that's happening under Democrat leadership. Today,
We're going to try to wrap all that up together
and say, all right, Colorado's definitely gone to the to
the blue side. We're a hardcore blue state. We can
(02:00):
call ourselves a purple state. So is there a chance
at getting back to purple? Is there a chance at
getting back to red? And we've talked about the premier candidates,
if you will, on the Democrat side for governor, those
being Phil Wiser and Michael Bennett, and neither one of
those folks being real high on my agenda by any
sense of the word for a governor's seat. But we
(02:22):
also have Jenna Griswold who's running apparently for attorney general,
which is shocking to me. I didn't know she had
gone to law school. I wasn't even sure she had
graduated from high school. But all that being said, she
seems to be the candidate for that particular seat. So again,
in an upcoming election cycle twenty twenty six, where we
have a chance at maybe starting to chip away at
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the state and maybe steal a couple of those seats,
the governor seat, the attorney general seat, those definitely are
ones that I think we should be targeting as a state.
So what I'd like to ask all you guys that
are listening and are willing to call in, is where
do you think we can make the biggest Can we
make the biggest leap. Do we have a chance of
pulling that governor seat back? Do we have a chance
at pulling any of those seats back? Secretary of State,
(03:07):
Attorney General, that Senate seat, that hicken Looper's holding on
to the treasure seat, any of them. Do you have
a candidate in mind that you think, all right, this
is the person who could be the dark horse. This
is a person that could take it back that governor
seat as well. For the Republicans, you can text in
at five seven, seven thirty nine or call in at
three zho three seven to one, three eight two five five.
(03:29):
We're gonna have a wide variety of folks coming on
the show today. We're, like I said, we're gonna have
a jam pack schedule. A lot of you people, a
lot of you will under you'll know some of these
these characters that we're bringing in. Our first guest up
after this first break will be a gentleman by the
name of Art del Cueto. Art's pretty nationally known on
Fox News and other premier news stations. He is a
(03:54):
he's a big time border security guy. He works for
Fair the Federation of American Immigration Reform, but he's most
known for his career with Border Patrol and as the
vice president and spokesperson for the National Border Patrol Council.
Like I said, he'll be with us in that second segment,
right around four to twenty. We're also going to have
Congressman Gabe Evans from CED eight. He goes without much introduction.
(04:16):
He's made quite a splash in his time out in
Congress and probably well known on these airwaves. He's got
a lot to educate us about about his efforts out
in Congress and some of the tax he's already starting
to get only four months into his tenure as the
newly minted CD eight Congressman. After the break, we'll have
Britta horn In or in the second hour, we'll have
(04:38):
Britta horn In, the new Colorado State Republican Chairwoman. She's
going to stay with us for quite a while. Again
in studio, we'll ask her a lot of questions and
kind of figure out does she believe if any of
these seats can be taken back, and what are the
strategies for doing so. Obviously, you know she's got to
be supportive of all candidates, but we have to all
be rowing in the right direction to try to at
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the Republican Party moving and hopefully in a winning position
where we haven't been for quite some time. And then
we're also going to bring in Sheriff Alan Cooper from
Fremont County. A lot of you have heard about an
arrest that was made over in Fremont of some individuals
that were coming back from Utah believed to be illegal immigrants,
and they were carrying a vast amount of AMMO with them,
(05:23):
or hauling a vast amount of AMMO with them. Obviously
they weren't legal residents, and so some questions abound about
why did they travel to Utah to buy AMMO? Where
were they taking it? And Sheriff Cooper's going to educate
us on that incident and kind of where that case
is going. But in the meantime, again, please send your
text in five seven, seven three nine. Start your text
(05:45):
out with Dan. Also, you can call in at three
oh three seven one three eight two five five. Like
I said, we're gonna have a jam pack show, So
I don't know how many calls we'll get to, but
if you're willing to wait, we'll try to squeeze in
wherever we can. I already have a couple of texts here.
First one is from Alexa, very loyal listener of the show.
She says, Sheriff frames, if you can let the listeners know.
(06:06):
The pro police Rally is holding the tenth Anniel law
excuse me, Law Enforcement Appreciation Day on Sunday on April
twenty seventh, from three to six pm at the Douglas
County Fairgrounds. It's going to be a great time, she believed.
Jimmy Singenberger will be performing. I know that event's happened
for quite some time. I attended one that was down
in Denver that got a little ugly when Antifa and
(06:29):
others tried to attack. In fact, they came after Michelle Malkin,
and I ended up being the person who evacuated her
from that particular event so that she wouldn't get we'll
just say damaged. So hopefully this rally and Douglas County
will be a little bit more supported the environment. There
is a little more pro police as the rally is
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intended to be, and we don't have the summer of
craziness in twenty twenty like we did back then during
the COVID and George Floyd Era. So I think that'll
be a good event down Douglas County. I've attended that
one as well a couple of times. So again, that's
on four to twenty seven, from three to six pm
at the Douglas County Fairgrounds. According to Alexa, if that
information is wrong, you can text her and let her know.
(07:11):
But so that we can get to our first guest,
I do want to cut to the break just a
little bit early. Again, feel free to send in those
texts five seven, seven, three nine. Start them out with Dan.
You know the drill we're looking to see. Do you
have candidates that can run for any of these seats
Secretary of State, Attorney General, treasurer, governor state or US
(07:33):
Senator who can win that seat from the Republican side?
How can we create a slate of candidates? And that's
not to say that we don't already have the right
governor's candidate in the race. There's several announced. But if
if you've got a different idea, text it in and
the call line is also three O three seven one
three eight two five five. We'll cut to a break.
Can we come back. We'll have Art del Queto on
(07:54):
with us, and you're listening to the Dankplas Show here
with Steve Reams as your guest host on six thirty
K how.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
And now back to the dan Kamplas Show podcast. Welcome
back to the.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Dan Kapla Show being hosted today by Well County Sheriff
Steve Reims. And what's us on the hotline? As I
said before we went to break is art del quoto art?
How you doing? I'm good, I'm doing great art. If
you would tell the listeners a little bit about your
background with Border Patrol and with the National Border Patrol Council,
just to set the stage a little bit in your
current role with the Federation for American Immigration.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Reform of course. So I started with Borrow back in
two thousand and three. So, and I just recently retired
in December of this last year. I've been working the
line for quite some time. I never was in management.
I never did the desk two d's. I was just
always out there on that line, working on the Tohuna
(08:48):
Autumn Reservation, which is the Native American reservation along the
US Mexico border. So, and that reservation, it's more or
less a little bit over sixty linear miles with Mexico.
It's the main corridor for drugs entering the country and
it has been like that for decades. And then I've
(09:08):
been working obviously with the National Board of PROCASSO with
the local union. It's a union right for the lack
of a better word, And what I tell people is
the difference between that union and other unions is we
bargain for the rights of the law enforcement agents. We
don't strike based on pay or anything like that. So
in that position, I've been lucky enough to work with
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various organizations. We work with various different administrations, obviously the
current administration being the best one we've ever had to
work with, and we worked with them back in twenty sixteen.
And because of that, I had the opportunity to work
various times with FAIR, the Federation of American Immigration Reform.
I would constantly be a stapop in Washington, DC during
(09:55):
their feet to the Fire events. And you know, I
retired from the Agents, I stayed on with the Border
Patrol Council, which the union, and then obviously now I
picked up a fantastic spot with Federation for American Immigration
Reform helping them as an advisor to the issues on
the border, immigration and everything else. But I've been I've
(10:16):
been in Arizona task for everybody, yes, sir, you know
decades with the Border Patrol. Prior to that, I worked
with the States as one of the gang Unit officers
for the State of Arizona, right, And even prior to that,
I did a couple of years as a Wildlin firefighter.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Well, and the way that you and I got to
know each other was through fair a few months back, yourself,
Mark Lamb and I were up on Capitol Hill trying
to lobby some of the congressmen and senators up there.
We all kind of traveled around Capitol Hill there together.
And I'll set the stage just a little bit because
one of our first meetings was to go meet with
Colorado Senator Michael Bennett. And when we were going to
(10:51):
that office, I told you and Mark, I said, we're
not going to get to meet the senator. We're going
to get some staffer. I said, we'll be lucky if
we get as janitor. Because that was about the fourth
or fifth time that I had been scheduled to go
meet with with Michael Bennett sometime in the last few years.
Through fair, and it played out just that way. We
walk in and we get a staffer. But I want
(11:13):
you to back me up here. When we walked into
the office, there was a former state senator from Colorado
and there by the name of Alec Garnett, and he
and I had a pretty lively exchange over the red
Flag bill that he helped pass in the state of Colorado.
Give me your impression of that exchange.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Well, first of all, you called it exactly like like
it was, and I'll give you what I'll tell you
what man hats off to YouTube. Not only did you
call it, not only was it like you said, but
you let them know. Uh that's that was. What was
fantastic that you're letting out leaving out is when we
went in there and actually sat down, you told him.
I knew this is the way it was going to
pat out because I've been trying to meet with this
(11:56):
individual for quite some time. He always, you know, sends
somebody else. But when we were out there, it was
a very eloquently put by you. You know, it was
a lively exchange.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
But I think at the end, uh uh, we agreed
to disagree conversation.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
You agreed to disagree, but uh, I don't think he
had an answer for you.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
No, he didn't. We were talking about we were talking
about how red flag laws are, in my opinion, unconstitutional,
and uh, they're they're they're not good for the state
of Colorado.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
But any common sense person would would agree with you.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
And you're a very common sense person. A common sense person. Yes.
So in our travels around d C, it was pretty
obvious this was a this was a red blue issue.
You know, most of the most of the Republican congressman
and senators were more than happy to meet with us.
Most of the Democrats were not the only credit I
would give. And maybe you, maybe you would agree with this.
Mark Kelly's staff. While he didn't meet with a senator
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Mark Kelly out of Arizona, he did provide staff that
seemed very engaged and knowledgeable about the about the issues
that we were there to talk about. You do you
agree with that?
Speaker 4 (12:59):
I mean, look, there's some that will sit there and
agree with you, and it's it's it's funny because I
talked to us, I've been dealing with this for quite
some time with the different you know, politicians, and when
what I've seen and I didn't really realize this as
much as I do now. Is their staffers, you would
think that, you know, if he's a left leaning politician,
(13:22):
he's just going to hire left leading staffers or vice versa.
Not necessarily like that.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Yeah, No, it.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Isn't necessarily like that, which I don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I think.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
I think it would be difficult for me to be
a staffer for somebody that I don't agree with on
ninety percent of the issues. Yeah, but I respect those
that can do it.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Yeah. I think you you lined it out right there.
With Mark Kelly's staff, I don't think they necessarily all
aligned with him politically, but otherwise it seemed like everybody
we met with they were If they were Republican, they
were very supportive of building the wall, funding border patrol.
If they were Democrat, they were a little wishy washy
on it. And then if if it was Michael Bennett's office,
we got one just above the janitor in my opinion,
(14:02):
just a bit.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
But I think it was informative. Look, it was it
was good to be out there with to talk. I
think it's fantastic with fair continues to do. They've been
doing it for quite some time, Like I said, I've
been very fortunate to work with them when I was
doing the Feat to the Fire. I mean, it was
just a fantastic event that they would put on each
and every year. And they continue to move forward, they
continue to try to get things done right and you know,
(14:24):
and inform the people, informed our politicians in their lawmakers
the right way. I'm extremely happy to be on with them,
to be honest. It's like I said, I've worked with
them for such a long time and it was fantastic
to work with them before. Now I'm working even more
so and more closely with them, and it's just it's
a great organization.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yeah. So you know, in your in your work out there,
you know in your interactions with this new administration, you know,
you've got a lot of years on with border patrol.
You were talking about that first term of Donald Trump,
how that was one of the better ones that you've
ever been with. But how much better is it right
now for the border patrol agent that's on the border,
And how much different or how much are we stopping
at the border that we were just letting straight on through.
(15:05):
When I say we as a nation, we're just letting
straight on through. Five short months ago. How big of
a dichotomy and change are you seeing down there on
the border.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Well, well, I think what makes it even a bigger difference,
right is we had a great position with President Trump
the first time that he was in office. We had
the support, We knew what was going on. We had
that open door policy with the White House. We were
able to to you know, go back and forth and
explain everything, and it was great. I mean it was
really great.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
But when he left.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Office and the new administration came on, and I'm talking
about the Biden administration, it was such a one to eighty.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
It was.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
It was devastating to the agents. Sure, it was devastating
to the country. So because it was I mean.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
You hit rock bottom.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
That's where we were at.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
I mean, I hate to say it that badly, but
we had hit rock bottom when we were arresting individuals
that they knew they were breaking the law, and when
they when you arrested them, they would look at you
and they they would flat out tell you there's nothing
you can do. Yeah, And so that was that's rockbot
as a law enforcement off as when you're arresting people
(16:18):
for drugs for you know, after vehicle stops where they
lead you on vehicle chases and they finally stop and
they look right at you.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Said, there's nothing.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
That's the most demoralizing thing you can go. Absolutely, So
we hit rock bottom. And now with President Trump back
in office, day one, man, it was like a flip
of a switch. Another one eighty twice over. Man, let
me tell you because the numbers stopped coming across. I
(16:50):
tell these there to a lot of individuals.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
It was it was rhetoric alone. Immigration laws still haven't
been changed. Remember that it changed the laws. It was
the rhetoric, and it was the policy and procedure where
you're saying, okay, now if you come across, you're going
to get detanged. You're not just gonna get released. You're
going to have to prove your case. If you're gonna
claim asylum. You can still claim asylum. The difference is
(17:13):
you have to prove that you actually have an asylum
creer right, right. You can't just make that blanket statement
and get released. So those are the things that you've
seen changing now because of that policy. And I remember
I just said you can still claim asylum. But all
of a sudden, the numbers dropped and no one's asking
for asylum, So I might believed that President Trump fixed
(17:35):
all the problems in the entire world because people aren't
sing asylum, right.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Yeah, kind of strange. How just a little policy change
does that? Well, Art, I appreciate your perspective. We had
a hard break here, but thanks for jumping on with us.
I know you got a lot of important stuff in
the queue, so we'll let you get back to that.
But Art Ncuato, thanks for being on with us and
representing FAIR the Federation for American Immigration Reform. You listen
to the Dan Capla Show with guest host Steve Raims
filling out We're here on six thirty k how.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Welcome back to the dankapless Show. You got well, Kenny
Sheriff Steve Reims setting in on the driver's seat for
the last day of three here that I'm covering Dan's
show and uh with us here. Shortly we'll be Congressman
Gabe Evans. We're just waiting for him to call in.
But in the in the meantime, if you want to
send in a text that that numbers five, seven, seven,
three nine, just start your text out with Dan or
in the next break. We'll also take some calls, which
(18:38):
is three oh three seven one three eight two five five,
And I believe we have Congressman Evans on the phone
with us right now.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Congressman Evans sure, good to be on with you.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Hey, Thanks Gabe, It's nice to hear from you. And
before we even start this, I want to I want
to have a little Mia Kalpa moment with the with
the audience because a couple of a couple of years back,
when you decided you were going to get in this race,
you called and you were calling several people, and you
called me at home and said, what do you think
about me jumping into CD eight? And I got to
tell you I was not very encouraging, not because I
(19:06):
didn't think you'd make a good congressman, but I just
I love the work that you were doing down at
the State House. You'd only been there for a little while,
and I wanted to see you stay down there as
long as possible because that's what impacts me most directly.
You're a pro police guy, and I thought, well, give
him a couple more years down there, and then he'll
really be able to make that shift, so I wasn't
very encouraging. I apologize for that, but you definitely proved
(19:30):
me wrong. You won that seat back and you and
I think you'll keep defending that seat. So I wanted
to expose that in front of all the listeners out there,
that I wasn't very helpful to your initial run. But
I'm so glad you're there now. So that sets the
stage and Congressman Evans, tell us what you're doing out
in DC, tell us the work you're doing. And I
(19:51):
know it's a mighty push right now.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
Well, Sheriff, I mean, I remember that conversation too, and
I guess maybe I'm stubborn and remembered it differently because
one of the things that you specifically told me there
was you know what gave Sometimes you got to go.
You got to go to war with the soldiers that
you have, not the soldiers you wish you had. And
so for me, I took that as play the hand
your dealt, not the hand you wish you had, And
the hand that we were dealt here in Colorado is,
oh my word. We need to get some balance back
(20:16):
in the state. We need to get some of these
just insane leftist Democrats voted out of office because of
the lunatic things that they're doing. And so that's the
work that I'm trying to do in Washington, d C.
I think we all know that Colorado is a sanctuary state,
that Denver has doubled down on being a sanctuary city.
Of my line of questioning that Denver Mayor Mike Johnson,
(20:38):
when he came before the House Oversight Committee, I waived
on basically means I got permission from the committee chair
to sub on, and I asked him, you know, Mayor,
you and the governor in Colorado all the time say
that you're totally willing to work with federal authorities to
get illegal immigrants who are committing other crimes drug dealers, clark,
the bank robbers, things like that. You're totally willing to
(21:01):
work with the Feds to get these folks out of
our community. And I don't buy that because as a
cop for ten years, I know that when you arrest somebody,
you have to go fill out the standard FBI fingerprint card,
which asks the citizenship of the individual that was arrested.
And so Denver Mayor, do you allow your officers to
fill out the citizenship block and the standard FBI fingerprint
(21:23):
card when you arrest somebody for other And of course
the answer was no, because Colorado and Denver have doubled
down on policies that prevent police from being able to
collect that information. And so then the immediate response was, well,
then if you can't even identify the people that are
illegally present in your community committing crimes, how in the
world are you going to work with the Feds to
(21:43):
get them out of the community. And so that's some
of the work that I'm doing in Washington. Reduced the
Uplift Act unhandcuffing police to locate and interdict foreign transgressors, which,
among other things, pushes back on these insane sanctuary city
and state laws that Denver crafts. In Colorado continue to
double down on.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
You mean, like two seventy six that they're pushing through
right now.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
That is the latest in a long laundry list of
sanctuary state bills. Two seventy six, of course, expands even
further the places where Colorado won't allow people to work
with Immigration and Customs and other federal authorities to get
violent criminals out of our communities. Share if you run
a jail where do you think if you've got a
(22:28):
drug dealer that's illegally present in our community, where do
you think that arrests should take place. Should I be
able to go get that person out of a jail
in a controlled setting, or should that person have to
go out into the community to try to apprehend a
combative and potentially armed individual.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Well, I think that's a pretty obvious question, and I'm
glad you're getting to play the interviewer, But yes, they
should be able to come into my jail or any
other jail and do that. And I will say that
there are some there are some ways to work with
ice that are a little unconventional even with some of
the laws that have been passed. But two seventy six
would stop that ability as well. So here you're on
point with your Uplift Act. What effect would that have
(23:05):
directly on the state of Colorado and kind of what
would that How would that intertwine with something like two
seventy six or a House Bill eleven twenty four.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
Yes, So one of the things that the Uplift Act
acknowledges is that under the Constitution Supreme Law of the
United States, the federal government has authority in things like
providing for the common defense, establishing justice. Those are in
the Preamble to the Constitution, and then under Article six
of the Constitution, any laws federal laws made in an
(23:39):
accordance with the Constitution or the supreme law of the land.
And so when you have states like Colorado that are
going rogue, literally trying to protect Ms thirteen gang members,
trendy Aragua gang members, drug dealers, people that are committing
violent crimes in our community, and they're protecting those people
by prohibiting state and local law enforcement from working with
(24:00):
the federal governments. Well, what the Uplift Act does is
supersede all of that stuff by extending effectively immunity to
any state and local law enforcement officers that choose to
work with the federal government. And then if the state
tries to go after those officers for violating state law,
the officers are actually indemnified by the federal government. And
(24:22):
so the federal government there is a defendant who will
protect those officers state and local officers if the state
tries for them by indemnifying them with the full weight
and authority of the federal government.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Man that would be a very welcome thing for probably
every law enforcement line officer in the state of Colorado,
and just about every law enforcement leader, if you could
get them to be honest. Now, city councils and whatnot
may not agree, but those of us that are out
enforcing the law would definitely welcome something like that. And
we just have a little bit of time left. I
know you have a couple of other bills that you've
gotten through committee. They might even have some bipartisan support.
(24:56):
Can you tell us a little bit about those.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
Yeah, so I've got actually introduced six bills in Congress already.
Five of them are bipartisan, the Uplift Uplift Act. Of course,
you know Democrats can get one, which is a shame.
Colorado's number two in the nation for teenagers dying from
fentanyl overdoses and other illegal drugs. So clearly a problem.
(25:20):
Too bad that Dems don't actually want to take care
of our communities. But the other five bills that I've
introduced bipartisan bills. Three of them have actually passed out
of committee already. They include things like transnational oppression. Fancy
way of saying, if you have folks from China or
Iran or Russia that have come to the United States
(25:41):
for the freedom that the United States offers, and the
secret polices of those oppressive regimes are still trying to
oppress people, you know, part of their immigrant community in
the United States. I've got a bill come into the
House floor that gives state and local law enforcement more
tools and outreach to those immigrant communities to make sure
(26:03):
that you know, we saw the news a couple of
years ago about how the Chinese were running a secret
police department to go and you know, intimidate Chinese folks
fleeing China and they're oppressing them in the United States.
So it cracked down on that. There's also some bills
around trying to permitting for a rural broadband access that
(26:23):
broadband access has to go through federal lands.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Okay, so kind of covering the gamut there. Well, Congressman Evans,
I know your time is valuable, but we really appreciate
having you on again. I couldn't be more proud to
have you representing CD eight. I know you've got a
couple of people on the other side of the aisle
that are already stepped in to challenge you. So if
the listeners want to get out there and get their
support behind you donate to your cause. What's the best
(26:48):
way they can they can do that.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
Yeah, So the website is Electgabevans dot com. You can
go visit that website that's got some more information. Electgabevans
dot com. And then if you need any help on
the official side with any you know, any federal agencies,
i RS, veterans issues, anything like that, passports, you can
visit Gabevans dot house dot gov to ease right next
(27:11):
to each other. Gaveevans dot house dot gov.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Awesome. Thank you again for being on the show. You've
been You've been a breath of fresh air for CD
eight and can't wait to see you get reelected seat.
It's hard to believe we're talking reelection only four months
into your your first term here, but unfortunately that's the
way Congress works. So again, thanks for having thanks for
being on with us, and enjoy the fight out there.
Speaker 5 (27:35):
Appreciated Sheriff, and like I said, I actually took what
you told me as an inspiration to just fight hard
or so appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
All right, thank you. That was Congressman gave Evans with
us here on the Dan Kaplas Show. We'll cut to
a break you're listening to again to the Dankaplas Show
with Well, Kenny Sheriff Steve Raims's guest host on six
point thirty k how.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Welcome back to the Dan caplesh Show with Well kind
of sure if Steve Reams setting in for the third
day in a row here, third and last day of
this week. It's been a pleasure to be with everybody
for these three days. And man, that first hour goes
by so fast. Ryan, you always talk about the fastest
couple of hours in radio, but man, it's a blinding fast.
Having said all that, when I was driving down here,
(28:19):
it wasn't blinding fast. And I was having a rant
while I was sitting in traffic, and I was listening
to your rant about sports and different mascots for different
sports teams, and you were talking about you want something
that's mighty and it represents you know, strength, and something
along those lines. And it came to my brain that
(28:40):
where I grew up in Amarillo, Texas, they have a
baseball team and you'll never guess the name or the
mascot for that baseball team.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
What was the town where it hails from Amarillo, Texas.
Speaker 6 (28:51):
Amarillo Amarillos sod poodles, sod poodles.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
You know what a sod poodle is?
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Reference to sod as in grass.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
Yes, okay, and poodle as in dog.
Speaker 6 (29:04):
Right, So their fur looks like sod. I'm not following this.
One supposed to be a prairie dog. I guess that's like.
So there are a lot of those around Amorello, Texas poodle.
I don't know how they got to the name sod poodle.
I don't live down there anymore that that team came
along after I left. If you miss them, there's a
whole bunch of them at the Cherry Creek Reservoir that
I see all the time.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
When you speak of missing them, are you talking about
it through target practice?
Speaker 3 (29:29):
They do carry a lot of diseases. Yeah, careful with your.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Dogs around them. So I have a little acreage out
east in Weld County and we have self erecting targets.
We don't have sod poodles.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Oh yeah, you don't have to pay for them or anything.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Unfortunately, they they reproduce much faster than what I can
buy ammo.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
As they really do, and they burrow and they ruin nasty.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Uh, They're just nasty. Anyways, I don't know how I
got on that topic other than while I was ranting
about traffic, you were ranting about sports teams. I just thought,
you know, I got to tie that in somehow.
Speaker 6 (30:02):
Team names Amarillo the as.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
I gotta look up that logo. Yeah, it's it's a classic.
Let me tell you it strikes fear in the hearts
of their opponents. I'm quite certain. Anyways, Having said all that,
I asked you guys during the show if you would,
you know, text in some ideas about who you thought
could run for particular offices. Do you think that do
you think that the state can come back on the
on the red side? Can we at least get it
(30:26):
to purple? A couple of texts have come in. One
here says, I'm a retired l e O from Fort
Collins and Windsor. Always appreciated the bond schedule and sentencing
coming out of the of the Weld County courts. Any
chance we could get an AG candidate from Weld and
the The district Attorney in Weld County is pretty well respected.
His name is Michael Rourke. He's a no nonsense kind
(30:47):
of guy. He took over after ken Buck left to
go to Congress. Michael and I have a very good
working relationship, mostly because he prosecutes the heck out of
offenders and isn't big on plea bargains. For the most part,
they're a natural part of having to run an office.
But he goes after the bad guys to the degree
that he can with the current system we have in
(31:12):
Colorado for the judicial process, I don't know. He'd probably
be a pretty reluctant AG candidate, but you could definitely
give his office a call text and let him know
you think that would be a great idea. And I
will also share this information with him when I talk
to him next. Another text here from Kimberly, she says,
I think that Colorado can be shifted, but not without
(31:33):
concessions from Republicans. More socially speaking, stick to the Second Amendment,
gas and oil, civil liberties from a libertarian view, I'm
sure that's talking about kids and schools and those kinds
of things. And then there is a chance, and I agree,
I think it's a long shot to bring Colorado back,
especially all in one fell swoop. I think if you've
got four or five good candidates running statewide, you got
(31:55):
a chance at maybe picking up you know, one or
two seats. Maybe not, but at least, you know, being
competitive in those seats, which we haven't necessarily been. You know,
we've got four or five announced governor's candidates, and I
don't know that we've got any real strong candidates for
any of the other seats that have announced.
Speaker 6 (32:11):
But I would add to Kimberley's list there to Steve,
which you mentioned Second Amendment, love it because of the
attack on our second am right that you and I
have discussed.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Gas and oil's big here.
Speaker 6 (32:20):
Civil liberty, sure, but I would add those eighty twenty
issues of illegal immigration which have struck us hard here
in Colorado. Crimes for certain, for certain from your perspective,
but parental rights which are on your assault here in
Colorado too.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
I think that's an eighty twenty issue.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Yeah, and that's getting national coverage. Right. Like all of
those issues, we're bad on all of them. You know,
when Art del Cuato is on, you know he's talking about,
you know, how different the border is. But something we
talk about when I go out with fairs. Every state
is a border state now and that's not by accident.
You know, four years of Joe Biden, eleven million illegals
coming across the border. Every state is a border state,
(32:57):
and I think you can win with you know, focusing
on that on that issue in Colorado if it's framed correctly,
because as we saw from the Texters yesterday and the
day before, there's plenty of folks that are not feeling
safe in Colorado and there's definitely a large person whoe assist. Yeah,
we're on the right track when it comes to dealing
with illegal immigration.
Speaker 6 (33:15):
Well, it's really burning me too on that. I know
a lot of our listeners as well. Joe Biden, as
you pointed out, Sheriff he let all of these illegals
flood across the border, no vetting, no asylum hearings, just
pouring in. But we have to go through a deportation
process and hearing for every single one of them.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Come on, how are you going to run eleven million
people through a court process? I mean, so, you know,
we don't even have enough of a court system to
prosecute every offender that is here in the United States
that we catch, and now we're going to add eleven
million illegals to it. I mean, there's a reason that
they use civil immigration detainers and not criminal immigration detainers
because it does give them another method. When I say
(33:52):
them ice, the punishment for that civil infraction is deportation.
They're not sending them to jail. It's not a criminal charge.
They're just saying, go back to where you came from.
We're not holding you away from the country that you
came from. We're just helping you get back there because
you're not welcome here. You know that never gets talked
about in the news. It is a civil immigration detainer
(34:13):
because they're not being locked up in our country. They're
being sent home. That is the punishment. It seems so rational,
But yet again, you know who am I to speak
rational when we're talking about policies that Democrats fight back
on every day.
Speaker 6 (34:29):
And it's like Art said earlier, you don't have a
right to asylum here. Your claim might not even be legitimate. Absolutely,
we need to narrow that down.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Yeah, absolutely, Well, coming back after break, we're going to
have a quick guest on to talk about the wolf
issue that we voted into the state of Colorado. Just
a couple of minutes with that, but that'll be at
the top of the next segment, And you're listening to
the Dan Cafleis Show right here, with Well County Sheriff
Steve Rains filling in his guest host. On six point
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